BRSR | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: I love it. That is portals. The band is BRSR and we have members of the band on with us via Microsoft teams. We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. But if you are listening live, welcome. We have entered our number two New Maarrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM and glorious but very very bitterly cold, Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera.

0:33 Speaker 1: Today is January thirty one, twenty twenty six, and let's go ahead. We'll get this up here. And I think we've got a few members of the band with us. Hello everybody, Hello, Hey, hey, good. So let's see. So it looks like we have Matt Hison, Drew Young and Chloe Johnston with us. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right, wonderful. Welcome everybody, And uh yeah, I love that track. I mean it's it's just and I did listen to the whole album by the way you've got a just a big sound. I just uh, you know, that's the easiest way to describe it.

1:09 Speaker 1: It's just big. It's expansive, and I really really like that. I love I love the mix. I love everything about it. So welcome. It is wonderful to speak to the three of you now, and you're a five piece correct, Yeah, yeah, I bet when you play live, I'm sure it also sounds you know, you know big. I'd love to I'd love to see all live. Obviously, geographically that would not be uh not be easy to pull on. But but let's see. So, so Matt you're you're the guitar player, and Drew you're the drummer, and Chloe you do vocals and synth.

1:44 Speaker 1: Correct, yep, that's right, very good, very good. So well, let's start with the most obvious question first, and then we'll kind of we'll we'll talk more about the music. But I want to know about the name. Uh what does b R s R me?

1:58 Speaker 2: So it's actually just short.

1:59 Speaker 3: In the version of Bruiser it was Dove who's not here to their front man who wanted here, originally wanted to be called Burst, and I thought that was the worst name we postally go for, because the quotations for that in Scotland are probably completely different from anywhere else in the world. But yeah, so we we went with Bruiser, but I found out there was a DJ also called Bruiser, so I thought the easiest thing to do was to shorten it. Also, just it looks, it looks better in terms of the logo and things like that.

2:26 Speaker 3: Just it looks looks a little bitter on the T shirt.

2:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, it does, it does. So am I Am I saying it wrong?

2:30 Speaker 4: Then?

2:31 Speaker 1: Am I?

2:31 Speaker 5: Am?

2:31 Speaker 1: I not supposed to say b R s R.

2:33 Speaker 2: No, it would be bruiser.

2:35 Speaker 3: But we get a lot of people all the time being like, oh hey, what what does it stand for? I'm like, well, nothing, so.

2:43 Speaker 1: I should be saying bruiser Yeah brs Okay, wonderful, Okay, excellent, excellent. So tell me about that that track portals because it just, like I said, it just sounds so big. It's atmospheric, you know, it's it's it kind of reminds me a little little bit of of some of the at least what was happening here in America. Some of that Well, I shouldn't say happening here in America because a lot of it was happening over there, but it was becoming very popular here in America. You know that that kind of a big, expansive sound, But I'm curious, I mean, is that kind of I listened to the whole album.

3:22 Speaker 1: It kind of sounds that's like what you're going for broadly, but you you capture it so well. I think Portals is an excellent choice for a single, But how do you how do you describe your sound? What what is it that you're trying to project with with Bruiser now that I know how to say the name.

3:40 Speaker 3: I think for us, from the start, we've always spoke about the fact that we feel that the best personal selves is live and when we recorded this album, we recorded initially live in a converted church building over.

3:52 Speaker 2: The course of two days.

3:53 Speaker 1: Oh really.

3:54 Speaker 3: So for example, one of the longest song on the album is the second last track, Buried at Home, which is just under about eleven minutes, and the take that is on the album was the was the only take we did, and it was done live and full. And I think that that is the way that we want to capture the band because for me, I feel like any band should be at the peak of the powers when they're live and are able to express themselves and change things as time goes on.

4:19 Speaker 2: Because you know the quarterly version of anything.

4:21 Speaker 3: I think if you're going to stick to that version for this, your career is going to get boring pretty quickly.

4:25 Speaker 2: Mm hm.

4:26 Speaker 3: So this, this is the kind of way the songs sound now, but it's open to the idea of we can adapt these as as as the sound progresses, as we progressive musicians and as we change as people as well. But I get what you mean about this about the sound as well. Like we I would say was probably my attempt to write a hum song. So yeah, as long as long as we've captured the kind of essence of that, then I'll be happy with that.

4:54 Speaker 1: And what are the lyrics about here? And who writes the lyrics? I don't know if your singer writes some or if you read them or who who who?

5:03 Speaker 3: It's it's myself for the time being, so that this this album is written by myself out there in necessity because we've been we've been a band of six months and we had about three songs that we we we sort of rushed together for a gig. The band is pretty much that the gig goes booked before before a band essentially, and the band was sort of made for a gig I still six months later, so one song became two, two became four, and then ended up just with the full albums.

5:32 Speaker 2: So that's pretty much what we've been working with the past year or so.

5:35 Speaker 3: Lyrically, it's it's part of the album as a whole, is as as a concept piece, but it also doubles up as as individual songs as well, so that they have their own separate means to me personally as well to the actual story itself. But it's it's sort of about being either trap within yourself and looking for a way out, but it's also about being trapped with another but feeling like you're together, but you're not feeling together. So you know, the kind of wor would have been that you can be living with someone, but you can feel like you're not actually living with someone, if you know what I mean.

6:14 Speaker 3: It's almost like so as a feeling like you're living with someone that you have a deep connection with, but the connections feeling.

6:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's something that's relatable. You know, certainly a lot of people go through that. I mean probably everyone goes through that at some point in their lives, you know. Feeling that way, yeah, I feel like and again not just with portals, but with the rest of the album too. You know, there's there's a lot of emotion there. It's it's as you know, obviously, you know, songs can be you know, they're up to the interpretation of the of the listener, but I I could feel a lot of I just found it.

6:49 Speaker 1: I found it highly relatable the whole thing, like I said, in addition to the big sound, it also you know, just hearing these lyrics and again, you know, I everyone puts their own interpretation onto what they're hearing, but to me, I really I really connected with a lot of this. Can you can Can you tell me more again about how this band started, because that was interesting. You said something about a gig and then you had to put a band together to fit the gig, and tell me about that.

7:16 Speaker 3: So essentially, David, our singer, had decided that he we were in the band previously, and he'd been out to music for quite a while and he'd said to me, I'm looking at getting back at the music again.

7:25 Speaker 2: But he'd previously been a drummer.

7:28 Speaker 3: But we we'd known for I was in a band with him when when I was fifteen, so we'd always known that he had a great voice and he wanted to be He wanted this to be his first solo adventure, and I was like, okay, that's that's that's kind of cool. But he went ahead and basically said to someone that we know that he had, he had music to put out and he was willing to you want to play?

7:50 Speaker 2: What to play the first gig?

7:51 Speaker 3: So he put him on a bill and he said to me, was like, oh, this gig coming up in about a month's time.

7:57 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, cool, who's playing with you? And he was like, no one.

8:05 Speaker 3: So I said to him, I was like, I wasn't. I was kind of out of music at this point as well. And I said to him, right, okay, i'll cover guitarphy just now, and if you can get a band together, then I'm quite happy to do.

8:15 Speaker 2: The show with you and we'll just take it from there. Yeah.

8:17 Speaker 3: But I said to him that I wasn't interested in writing any material or anything like that, so I said I'll leave that to you and once you've got songs, let me know and we'll get we'll get this together. And then about two weeks before the gig, I said to him, I was like, so, what's happening with us? How many songs we have? And he was like, I still have the one. I was like, I kind of said to him. I was like, right, okay, we'll go out of the room and we will. We will spend as long as we need to to get enough songs together for a settl list.

8:47 Speaker 3: So the first three singles we put were written within this base of about half an hour an hour or so, and we wrote we wrote those together, and I remember we actually finished the lyrics for the last song on the setlist just as the bass player and Dromore thumb that for for our first and only rehearsal before that gig. So that's that's kind of how it all started. But it's it's obviously it's involved in Drew and Chloe further on downline as well. It's just myself and the for a while and Kieran, who's the best player as well.

9:22 Speaker 3: He's been in there since since day one. So it's it's essentially a new a new outfit. Now the chaotic beginnings of the band have made this. So I'm very grateful for the deciding that he was going to be a gig with no songs or no band.

9:38 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I mean, you know, it almost kind of makes you believe in fate, right that that this came together like that under such chaotic circumstances that sound like it sounds like it couldn't possibly work out, and then and then it does and you just you just make it work out. That's fantastic. So obviously the show went well.

9:59 Speaker 3: There's the show went well enough that we decided, you know, maybe we can continue with this. But as I said, we waited and I said to him, I was like, okay, I helped you with the songs. There, it's your baby. You run with it and you do the songs and we'll just get a practice together whenever. And then about five six months past and I was like, how's it coming with the writing, and then he was like, yes, I'm not got anything. And I was like, okay, I'm kind of bored of playing the same like four or five songs.

10:24 Speaker 3: Let's try something. And it's been the first time since I've written a song myself and probably about nine to twelve months, I would say the first song that I wrote was on My Reasons, which is the second track on the album, and then Portals pretty much quickly followed after that, and it was sort of just a snow wall effect of just I think I had a headspace of just I was back writing again and I had a purpose to write and we needed material, so it all just came out one after another, and it wasn't an intention to write an album, but when we ended up with mante material we did, I was like, this feels like a cohesive units as a as eight songs, so we may as well.

11:04 Speaker 3: And then the more I was looking at the lyrics myself, I was like, this is telling more of a full story rather than individual stories themselves. So yeah, it's it's been.

11:18 Speaker 2: It's been a blessing.

11:18 Speaker 3: Disguss because I didn't think I would have I would ever be in a band again.

11:21 Speaker 2: They've been writing songs again, but yeah, it's been.

11:25 Speaker 3: It's been great for myself and it's been really really good having these guys with me as well on this.

11:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Well, when it comes together too like that, when it just feels like I said, there's almost a sense of fate or destiny to it, uh, you know the way you tell it. And when when it comes together like that, you know you've got something. You know, you're like, like if it's one thing, if you're if you decide to start a band with somebody, and then you're you know, you're spending a year or whatever, you know, trying to come up with some songs, and you're working hard at it. And there's nothing wrong with working hard at it.

11:55 Speaker 1: But but when it when it almost sounds like you know, it just sort of uh, there's almos in alchemy to it, and it all just sort of comes together like that, that's when you know you've really got something and it's interesting to you. So you said you didn't think you'd ever be in a band again. Why is that?

12:11 Speaker 3: Well, personally, I'd been through quite a bad stint with my own mental and physical health over the past two years before this, and it kind of continued in the start of this. Is why it was taking us quite a while to actually get to this point, because I was essentially bed bound for most of like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. So to be able to get to this point and be be here just now as a medical inner of itself. But as I say as well, like this is a this is a project that couldn't have been done without everyone involved, because it can.

12:45 Speaker 3: You can write as many songs as you like, but if you don't have a unit around you understand everything and are invested in the project as much as yourself, then it's it's really all for nothing.

12:56 Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, So, how long has the band actually existed at this point.

13:02 Speaker 3: Well, from from our first Our first gug was twenty twenty two, so you're you're talking about three three and a bit years or so.

13:10 Speaker 2: But her most recent member just now.

13:14 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Drew's the new guy.

13:17 Speaker 2: Yes, drink.

13:18 Speaker 3: Cloe came in towards towards the probably bout mid section last year. I'd say Chloe originally was just providing backing vocals on a lot of the album, and I felt that she contributed so much to the harmonic balance of a lot of the songs. Yeah, felt wrong to just have her as essentially like a studio musician. And I said there, I was like, what would you feel about joining the band? And she was like, but I can't play anything, And I was like, you can play synth. She was like, I can't play it, and I was like, you can learn.

13:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's so she now plays synth and she learned and she goes and she's doing very very well.

13:54 Speaker 1: Oh that's actually yeah, yeah, yeah, I go ahead, Chloe.

14:00 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, and keeping with the band being forced in kales, I've only been playing some since July.

14:05 Speaker 1: Last year, no kidding. So is this your first So is this actually your first musical instrument that you've played.

14:13 Speaker 5: So I've played like a little bit of guitar and stuff in the past, spot I've never been in any bands or anything, just sort of doing it for fun. And then obviously this is the first project where I've really had to get my head down and learn an instrument from scratch. So it's been a challenge, but a good one.

14:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's good. And you know, I've heard a lot of this comes up a lot on the show. I've heard a lot of you know, music teachers and music professors say that everybody, and by the way, I did not take this advice. I can't play anything on a keyboard, but that every musician should at least know some some synth, keyboard, piano, whatever, because it helps you. It helps you just knowing even a little bit of that helps you with everything else in terms of music. It helps you to understand chord structure better, It helps you with everything.

15:01 Speaker 1: And and a lot a lot of them will say too that that's the best place to start. Obviously you're already playing guitars, you said, but to, but to even if you start, even if it's not going to be your primary instrument, if you start on a keyboard, it's going to help you with everything. So but but yeah, but it does fit the chaotic nature of how the band started, right, So that's great. Good for you, Good for you. I mean, has it been scary or do you just take the challenge and say now I'm going to do this, or or what's been your mindset with it?

15:33 Speaker 5: It has been quite intimidating, and especially since all the guys have been in bands before and bands that have done quite well. And I sort of sometimes get a little bout that imposter syndrome where I sort of get up on stage with them and I'm like, I'm surrounded by these people who've been playing their instrument for like decades now, and here I am just plunking away at my keys. No, I do what I actually doing right in that regard, it's been a little a little bit. I have a dating, but the guys are so just so lovely and so so encouraging, and I couldn't be surrendered by better people.

16:06 Speaker 1: So yeah, oh that's fantastic. And then so Drew. So you're the newest member. So how long have you been in the band now?

16:13 Speaker 4: I am yeah, it will be coming up on a year.

16:17 Speaker 1: I reckon a year in okay maybe, okay, okay.

16:21 Speaker 4: But it's been great fun. I think myself and Matt we played in a different band maybe two or three years ago. That just open the pandemic sort of lust steam. So when Matt had got in touch that their drummer or the previous drummer Kyle had stepped aside, totally jumped at the chance to be.

16:37 Speaker 2: Able to play with Matt again.

16:38 Speaker 4: It's always been great fun, and as he said, I've always really enjoyed his songwriting. Yeah, and also all the stuff that Kyle had recorded for the album has been super super fun to just sink my teeth into and learn all these parts.

16:51 Speaker 1: And then when you do that, when you come into a project like this. This is something I'm always curious about.

16:56 Speaker 5: Do you.

16:58 Speaker 1: Do you then try to learn exactly what he did or do you try to kind of, you know, learn what he did, but then maybe kind of put your own Because I've known drummers who will They'll come into a situation and they'll say, I'm going to or someone in the band will tell them if they're you know, if they're coming in new to a situation, I'm going to try to learn everything. I'm going to learn the fills exactly. I'm going to replicate exactly what the previous drummer did, you know, And other drummers, of course want to come in and well probably everybody wants to kind of put their own stamp on it.

17:29 Speaker 1: But what's been your approach with that? Yeah?

17:32 Speaker 4: I think definitely taking the you know, the skeletons and the muscles of what Kyle had written on the drums and building on that with my own flavor, my own taste. Obviously, every drummer is unique in what they play. Yeah, I think I appreciate that Matt trusted me to be able to fit the bill for what was already built. Yeah, and I guess if you want to really top shop.

17:54 Speaker 2: And get it.

17:55 Speaker 4: I am a left handed drummer that plays on a right handed drum kitas whereas Kay Kyle is right handed. And so there's a lot of the films that I really liked the sign of wanted to play very true to what he plays physical physically. I would have to swap a lot of my like sticking in the nation around to make these work. So that's been really really fun to try and work around lots of these problems as well.

18:17 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, how has that been hard to pull off?

18:21 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's been hard, but it's been well worth the challenge, you know, yeah, to play drums and like to learn fun things.

18:27 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's very cool. That's something that wouldn't have even occurred to me, but that's yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. So now you've already you guys have already gotten some some success with radio, right you're it's you've gotten some traction over there, some early radio support.

18:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're actually go on, We've we've had amazing video in the UK and the US has been pretty early champions of the music and gym and scott and Scotland has been. It has been really good for us, and this is this is but this is only like this is a third interview in one day, but this is a interview of all time.

19:12 Speaker 1: So Okay, it's been.

19:16 Speaker 2: Order to be here.

19:17 Speaker 3: It's it's been good to get to talk people who are actually interested in music. Yeah, and have I've actually listened to what we've done, because in the past we found it quite difficult to talk to people who kind of you're like kind of where they kind of like they've heard about thirty seconds of it and they're like, yeah, and I know what we're talking about, what you guys are all about it.

19:35 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm also curious to know about the live situation there because it looks like you're you're having a lot of success. You've been playing some solid out shows. Correct.

19:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so this is something.

19:51 Speaker 3: But as Drew mentioned, the drummer on the album, Kyle, he stepped aside earlier last year just just due to the fact that we were talking about going on to alast year and we ended up pushing the album back because he said that the concept of a tour wasn't his cup.

20:07 Speaker 2: Of tea anymore.

20:08 Speaker 3: He'd been in the bar before who would toured quite extensively, and he was like, I'm not cut out for this anymore. So it's been a bit of a shame because he left at a point where we started actually building more of a fan base in our own in Glasgow and sourround the areas. So we played a place called the Cools. I think it was drew it your third gig, second.

20:32 Speaker 2: Gig, second I think yeah, second second.

20:36 Speaker 3: Show, and it was it was it was parked and it was sort of just came out of nowhere because we we've been playing, you know, we've been playing to like ten to fifteen people for so long that we just kind of think, okay, it's just going to be this or like added finium. So we just turned up and it was like about an hour before doors and they were like, oh, so out and I was like, you mean it sold out and I was.

20:58 Speaker 2: Like, that's it's just there's no tick left how and it was. It was.

21:04 Speaker 3: It was crazy for a start because there's a lot of people we've never seen before, and it just it's kind of continued from there. We had our prober bus this year for gigs last year, which building one of us.

21:16 Speaker 2: It's worth for the for the best.

21:19 Speaker 3: With the album this year, and we've got quite a lot of shows or the books for this year, so it's it's been great.

21:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's excellent, very very good. You do any I didn't think to look do you have any music videos, because like a song like Portals, I think would really lend itself to something and and and I feel like, you know, looking at the artwork that you have, like the visual component is important. It is important to the to the span to bruiser. But do you have you met any music videos?

21:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've actually got well for funny, as you mentioned, we're actually finished recording.

21:54 Speaker 2: The music with for Portals yesterday.

21:56 Speaker 1: Wow. Good.

21:57 Speaker 2: So I'll be in that over the next couple of couple of days or so.

22:01 Speaker 3: We try we've tried to do everything in house from the start here because it's it's quite hard to get any sort of funding or support in the UK for for music.

22:11 Speaker 2: So any money that we can.

22:13 Speaker 3: Save for you know, recording or going on tour like that, like that, like that the actually important things for people hearing music, we will cut that. So I've learned how to do you know, filming and editing and that kind of thing to save the cost of that.

22:27 Speaker 5: So we do.

22:27 Speaker 4: We have.

22:27 Speaker 3: We've got a video for Judas, which was our first proper single, and there is a visualizer for man Made Fires, which was a single before. There was plan to be music with you for that, but we we sort of run out of time to do it, and the weather over here is so temperamental that to try and from outside was it got to got to point where we tried to start filming it and my hands were on the camera and I actually couldn't feel I lost all sensation of feeling on my fingers. I was like, actually, don't know if I'm pressing the record button.

22:58 Speaker 5: Here's not.

23:01 Speaker 2: So the port Ports music video will be out soon, we do. We did plan on having a video for every song on the album.

23:08 Speaker 3: Really, as I say, the the connotations of trying to get a budget together and when we all work full time as well, Yeah, it's trying to think the thing to get it all done while also keeping the set as tight as possible and working on as well.

23:24 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely no, it's always a challenge. But so Judis was the previous single.

23:29 Speaker 2: So Juis was was our first proper single.

23:32 Speaker 3: I came out about June last year, in the record of the video for that that is on that's on YouTube, and yeah, so port Portals will will.

23:40 Speaker 2: Be our second port music video. We do have music videos for our first three singles, but those are only one band campus.

23:45 Speaker 3: Now, we weren't really one hundred percent on this on the sound on those ones for those three singles as well.

23:51 Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, I think I forgot to mention, so the name of the album A Field of man Made Fires? What what I'm really curious about the title?

23:59 Speaker 4: What?

23:59 Speaker 1: What are does that mean?

24:01 Speaker 3: So I look at as I mentioned earlier on my health issues of the past couple of years, I went through a period of time where I was not feeling like I was being the person that I should.

24:12 Speaker 2: Have been, and I kind of view to kind of a bit of reflected perspective. I had.

24:20 Speaker 3: One of the worst cases in the UK of psoriasis that they've ever seen. So I got to the point where where I couldn't leave my bed, and I started to think that every mark that I had in my skin and every scale that came up was a punishment for me being.

24:36 Speaker 2: Basically false to myself.

24:38 Speaker 3: So the kind of concept of I feel the Marmory f is was me just surveying my mistakes and putting the playing on myself for a lot of things in retrospect. I mean, a lot of things have probably been a bit too harsh on myself for But I think when you are on it in such a low position, you do just kind of start to fixate on the thing that you could have done things so much better. But at the same time, it's it's hindsight's a wonderful thing, and when you look back on things regarding that, I mean, there's only so much you could have done right.

25:12 Speaker 3: And I think I've grown as a person since since then. But it's pretty much chronicles my life from a bit of ages of nineteen to about twenty four, and that's that's pretty much the whole concept of the of the album is just dealing with the mistakes that you've made and either accepting it and moving on or wallowing on it.

25:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally get that. I just heard a weird sound. Are you all still there?

25:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still here?

25:44 Speaker 1: Okay, So I heard a strange sound. It must just be in my headphones. No, I can. I can totally relate to that, you know, And I'm someone who you know, as you mentioned mental health, like I struggle with depression. My listeners know this about me, and I ruminate a lot and almost constantly, and so I can, I can. I can relate to a lot of what you're saying. And maybe that's why you know so many of these these lyrics really connect with me too. Like I said, I listened to the whole thing. How is your how are you now?

26:11 Speaker 1: Matt, Like how how are you doing?

26:13 Speaker 2: As we said here today, as I'm as close to cured as it possibly can be.

26:18 Speaker 3: I'm on I'm on medication. It's helped, but I went through a period the long time. I think if anyone who's listening who's been through or is suffering with the risis, I think I have been at the lowest point you could possibly be with with the disease and understand that it might seem like there's no escape from it. But I've been dealing with this since I was about eighteen and I'm twenty six now, so it's taken me into the past year to actually get to the point where I can do normal things. I can go to work, I can go to the gym, I can live a normal life again.

26:47 Speaker 3: So and I suppose it goes it goes hand in hand with depression as well, and I think I think that's why a lot of people spoke spoke about lyricism on the album and it connecting people. And I think it's because when when you talk with things like the pandemic and things like that, I think that made people realize just how bad the mental who possibly could be. And David as well is the front man, he's you said, battles with depressions as I think we all we all have at different points. I think it's trying to be I think we're now in a in a time where we can be more open ourselves and everyone around those that you know, we we can we can say, you know, I'm not actually doing great today, and there's things where where you're we're doing great for one periods of time.

27:35 Speaker 3: But I think knowing that you've got a group around you who have been through the same thing, it makes things so much easier now.

27:43 Speaker 1: It does it does? I know for me because it's been a it's been a struggle for me since I was probably a teenager. And you know, in my case, I mean as far as depression, I got to a point in my life where it's like it's too exhausting to try to hide it. I'm just not gonna hide it anymore, you know. And then you you know, and then you're up about it and you talk to people and you realize it's so so common, like there's no reason for there to be any stigma because it's something so many of us deal with.

28:08 Speaker 1: So yeah, So, like I said, I really love the album A series of man made fires, and we will we'll begin to wrap up all three of you. I appreciate you. You've been very generous with your time. Mattrew and Chloe, thank you so much for joining us. I'm thinking at the end of our conversation, I will play Judas another great track from the album, because we did talk about it. I love I Love Portals, great great song, love the whole album. And where is the best place where should people go? Especially because again because of the way that you spell it, we want to make sure people know where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that Bruiser is doing as a band, so we are most active.

28:46 Speaker 3: On Instagram and tech talk for music related things. I would say that currently I mean Spotify as were. Most people see people for things, but we are trying to push this on buoncomp as much as possible. Yeah, I think when we're living in this world New Were Combat and AI and everything else, is the best thing you can postally do is be as close to your grusher supporters as possible. So the album will be up towards end of February on band Camp and it will be pay what you want. So if you if you can't afford that, take it for free, come to a show.

29:14 Speaker 3: We'd much rather that than people giving us, like, you know, five quid, ten quid.

29:18 Speaker 2: Here here they are.

29:20 Speaker 3: It's more important that people hear the songs and hear the stories we want to tell than giving us any extra money.

29:25 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely band camp does offer that option. And I'm a big advocator. You know, a lot of industry people to listen to the show, and so they've heard me say this, but I'm a big advocator for band camp because what a lot of people don't realize too is you get a higher quality file from band Camp then you do you know, say just streaming it on YouTube or wherever, you know, wherever people get their music. So so I'm a I'm a big fan of band camp. Their whole their whole model of how they do things and everything.

29:51 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's so artist friendly in an industry where there are not enough artist friendly tools that you can use. But I'm a huge fan of band camp. So so that's good to hear. But well, listen, so we'll wrap up, We'll let the three of you go. I'm going to hit that track Judas, another great song from the album, A series of man made fires. But again, Matt Trew Chloe from Bruiser, thank you so much for joining us, and we will definitely do this again, obviously. I'm sure you're gonna be you know, whenever the next single is ready, or if you got another album down the line, or you know, whatever you got coming up.

30:22 Speaker 1: We would love to have you back in the future. I'm a big fan, so.

30:26 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

30:28 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you got it all right. We'll talk to you soon, I'm sure. Take care,