Knosiva | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: And joining us right now in studio, we have Nikolay

0:04 Speaker 1: Caine who also his project is called and we were

0:06 Speaker 1: just discussing this before the show. The best way to

0:09 Speaker 1: pronounce it. I think no Siva sounds sounds like, oh,

0:12 Speaker 1: let me get that mic on. I think we agreed

0:13 Speaker 1: on that.

0:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, no Siva.

0:15 Speaker 1: It was either no Siva or Nosova. I was musing

0:17 Speaker 1: about this at the beginning of the show today, like

0:19 Speaker 1: I gotta just ask him, Uh, what's the best way

0:23 Speaker 1: to say this? But but you've got a great new

0:26 Speaker 1: single which we're gonna play playing a little bit, but

0:29 Speaker 1: this Sanctum of the Unseen, which I really like. I

0:32 Speaker 1: can't wait to share this with everybody.

0:34 Speaker 2: Awesome, thank you.

0:35 Speaker 1: And it's brand new, right like because you sounded this

0:38 Speaker 1: to me yesterday, So that's how new the song is.

0:42 Speaker 3: So I've been working on it for like at least

0:44 Speaker 3: the past two weeks, but at the same time, like

0:47 Speaker 3: I completely finished everything within the last like three days.

0:51 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, so this is very new. We also

0:55 Speaker 1: have you know, last time you were here, we played

0:57 Speaker 1: Eternal Serpent Scream, and you know, we might fit that

1:01 Speaker 1: into today just to kind of remind people of that song.

1:03 Speaker 1: That's that's also a really great track. But what is

1:06 Speaker 1: this So the song Sanctum of the Unseen, what is

1:09 Speaker 1: this about? Exactly?

1:11 Speaker 3: Simply put, it's about how people use religion to brainwash people,

1:17 Speaker 3: and how they use it to poison the minds of

1:20 Speaker 3: youth one way or another, whether it's through you know,

1:25 Speaker 3: forms of abuse, whatever, in rewriting everything that goes on

1:30 Speaker 3: in the world to fit their narrative. Like people have

1:34 Speaker 3: said many times that if you read the Bible, there's

1:37 Speaker 3: a lot of things that seem to be missing, and

1:40 Speaker 3: they've proven that it's been rewritten countless times. So what's

1:44 Speaker 3: real what's not? And I grew up in the Midwest,

1:47 Speaker 3: and the church was something that, you know, originally seemed

1:51 Speaker 3: like a good idea because it was something that I

1:52 Speaker 3: grew up in my with my family, but then it

1:55 Speaker 3: just became very poisonous to me. So it's an amalgamation

1:58 Speaker 3: of all the horrible things that people do in the

2:00 Speaker 3: name of religion.

2:01 Speaker 1: Doing a song like this, did you because you mentioned

2:03 Speaker 1: your background growing up in the Midwest, what was this

2:06 Speaker 1: cathartic for you?

2:07 Speaker 4: Oh?

2:07 Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah.

2:11 Speaker 1: In the lyrics of the song is did you feel

2:13 Speaker 1: like you were kind of saying things that you maybe

2:15 Speaker 1: wanted to say or you were thinking about growing up,

2:18 Speaker 1: Like was it kind of a release in that sense?

2:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the chorus line is underneath the cross, they

2:24 Speaker 3: burn every soul they swore to turn, And that is

2:28 Speaker 3: definitely a obvious reference to like witch hunting. And there's

2:33 Speaker 3: a lot of crazy stuff that's going on in the

2:35 Speaker 3: world right now. And I don't like to use the

2:37 Speaker 3: word witch hunt just because it's used in a very

2:39 Speaker 3: negative connotation, mainly from like the alt right, but it

2:45 Speaker 3: is something that, especially in today's world, is very prominent,

2:49 Speaker 3: and I wanted to put that into this song. And

2:52 Speaker 3: that is also why the image that I sent you

2:56 Speaker 3: is an idea that we're probably gonna end up going

2:59 Speaker 3: with for the album cover. Okay, but that that is

3:02 Speaker 3: why I also picked the photo of the woman burning

3:05 Speaker 3: at the stake.

3:05 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And visually it's it's quite stunning and I

3:09 Speaker 1: really like it and I think it definitely goes goes

3:11 Speaker 1: with the song. Is that is that something? Is that

3:15 Speaker 1: image something you designed or did someone else do that

3:18 Speaker 1: or No.

3:19 Speaker 2: I reached out to Jonah.

3:20 Speaker 3: Actually I think it was like Thursday or Friday, and

3:23 Speaker 3: I was like Hey, this is what I would like

3:25 Speaker 3: to do. Can we do this? Yeah? And then like

3:28 Speaker 3: that day, he messed around with some ideas. The one

3:33 Speaker 3: thing that I definitely wanted to point out, because a

3:36 Speaker 3: lot of people don't notice this for some reason, the

3:39 Speaker 3: photo is a crown of thorns over her eyes like

3:42 Speaker 3: a blindfold instead of a blindfold. And I did that

3:44 Speaker 3: also again as a metaphor of how like religion being

3:48 Speaker 3: poisonous can blind people. So I wanted to make sure

3:51 Speaker 3: that I put that on there as well.

3:53 Speaker 1: Right right. I've always kind of thought of it as

3:55 Speaker 1: the you know, I'm not a religious person myself, but

3:57 Speaker 1: I was. I was raised Catholic, and I've always kind

4:02 Speaker 1: of thought of it as it's it's not that religion

4:05 Speaker 1: itself is bad, it's it's that what people do with it.

4:08 Speaker 2: Oh.

4:08 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, the concept of religion is not a bad

4:12 Speaker 3: thing to me, because the whole point of Christianity is

4:15 Speaker 3: to treat people the way that you want to be

4:17 Speaker 3: treated and help people when they need it.

4:20 Speaker 2: But all Harry picking a problem.

4:22 Speaker 1: All that Jesus stuff.

4:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, but cherry picking is the issue.

4:28 Speaker 1: All it's beyond. It's to me. To me, organized religion

4:31 Speaker 1: not just Christianity, but organized religion in general, I feel

4:34 Speaker 1: is more political than spiritual. It really has nothing to

4:37 Speaker 1: do with.

4:39 Speaker 2: The problem.

4:40 Speaker 5: You know.

4:40 Speaker 1: It's like what I can't I can never remember the

4:41 Speaker 1: exact quote verbatim, But what was that that Gandhi said?

4:44 Speaker 1: You know, it's about Christianity. It's not that I don't

4:47 Speaker 1: like you know, I like your christ I just don't

4:50 Speaker 1: like your Christians. They are so unlike your christ Yes,

4:53 Speaker 1: or as a close friend of mine used to say,

4:55 Speaker 1: unfortunately passed away, but he used to say he paraph

4:57 Speaker 1: phrase it in his own way. He said, Christianity. He's

5:00 Speaker 1: a great idea. Somebody should try it.

5:03 Speaker 2: Now. It wasn't Gandhi also Hindu or Buddhist or what

5:06 Speaker 2: was he?

5:06 Speaker 1: Hindu?

5:07 Speaker 3: Okay, So what's interesting about that is that no. Siva

5:10 Speaker 3: obviously is a reference to Shiva. And we talked about

5:13 Speaker 3: this last time about how like eternal servent scream and

5:15 Speaker 3: why I chose the name is because it's all about

5:19 Speaker 3: light and dark energies and positive and negative and all that.

5:22 Speaker 3: But yellow is a color that I've been using a lot,

5:28 Speaker 3: Like my contacts are yellow, my nails are yellow, And

5:31 Speaker 3: it's because it's a metaphor that they use in certain

5:35 Speaker 3: religions like Buddhism and Hinduism, and they use it about

5:39 Speaker 3: like your higher self, whether that's nirvana or whatever you

5:44 Speaker 3: want to call it by name. But yellow is a

5:48 Speaker 3: color that is used in those regions of the world

5:51 Speaker 3: to use like metaphorically to show this is about transformation

5:58 Speaker 3: into something new, something better, something higher self.

6:01 Speaker 2: And that's basically what no Civa is all about.

6:04 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that about the color yellow. That's interesting.

6:07 Speaker 1: That's interesting.

6:10 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a theology professor once.

6:12 Speaker 6: Oh no kidding.

6:13 Speaker 3: I have an associate's degree in theology studies, but I

6:16 Speaker 3: didn't know that.

6:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know a lot of people don't.

6:18 Speaker 1: I'll be damned, no pun intended. Oh that's interesting. Well,

6:22 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and play this track. I'm dying to

6:24 Speaker 1: share this with everybody. And this is you know, you

6:26 Speaker 1: get the world premiere bumper ahead of it because it

6:28 Speaker 1: is the It is the world radio premiere. And again

6:31 Speaker 1: this is is this even this isn't even on the

6:32 Speaker 1: streaming services yet, is it?

6:33 Speaker 4: No?

6:34 Speaker 3: This was I made a Facebook page a couple of

6:38 Speaker 3: days ago and I invited a bunch of people so

6:39 Speaker 3: hopefully there are some people that are, you know, watching

6:43 Speaker 3: and might comment or whatever. But I did this as

6:46 Speaker 3: a pre release because I wanted to try and draw

6:48 Speaker 3: more people in before I actually put it out.

6:50 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good. So here does This is

6:52 Speaker 1: the world radio premiere of the new track from No

6:56 Speaker 1: Civa Sanctum of the Unseen.

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9:28 Speaker 4: To say I saw the Swish God always come back

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10:57 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to talk over the out event

10:59 Speaker 1: and it's so cool. Love it. Sanctum of the Unseen

11:02 Speaker 1: No Seva and we have Nikolai Kane of No Siva

11:05 Speaker 1: here live in a studio and yeah, I love that track.

11:11 Speaker 1: Anybody in your family hear that.

11:14 Speaker 3: I tried sending it to my brother and he's just

11:16 Speaker 3: not about like he's He's like, I'm proud of you,

11:18 Speaker 3: but like that's just not my thing.

11:20 Speaker 1: Yeah.

11:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, by the way, that sounds so much

11:23 Speaker 2: better than I thought it would on the radio.

11:25 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding? Yeah, yeah, good, that's good to hear. Yeah, absolutely, No,

11:30 Speaker 1: I really like that a lot. Tell me about the

11:34 Speaker 1: production of these of the songs that you do and

11:36 Speaker 1: like I said, later, we'll we'll fit in the previous

11:38 Speaker 1: song the last time you were here too, because I

11:41 Speaker 1: really like that one a lot also, But I mean,

11:43 Speaker 1: what's what's your production technique because no Civa is? Is

11:46 Speaker 1: it all you or no?

11:47 Speaker 2: It's me and Jonah, You and Jonah okay, collaborative effort.

11:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, gotch Like I same thing with the one before,

11:53 Speaker 3: Like I'll reach out to him, tell him an idea

11:55 Speaker 3: that I have and we'll work on it together throughout

11:58 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, months, however long it takes.

12:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, But again it was the same thing as before.

12:04 Speaker 2: The differences.

12:06 Speaker 3: An entire year had gone by, right, and during that

12:09 Speaker 3: time frame, what he was learning to do for production

12:14 Speaker 3: got tremendously better. In a year's time frame, I also practice,

12:19 Speaker 3: my vocals got better at those. I upgraded from like

12:23 Speaker 3: a two hundred dollars microphone to a six hundred dollars microphone.

12:26 Speaker 2: You can clearly tell the difference.

12:27 Speaker 1: Yep.

12:28 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of a lot of time

12:32 Speaker 3: set aside to work on the things that I wanted

12:35 Speaker 3: to work on and practice the things that I wanted

12:38 Speaker 3: to practice, so that if I knew I was going

12:40 Speaker 3: to do this, I wanted to do it right, and

12:42 Speaker 3: I wanted to do it well, right right.

12:45 Speaker 1: And in terms of like you know, instrumentation, guitars and

12:50 Speaker 1: keyboards and everything, is that you is at him?

12:51 Speaker 2: Is that that's Jonah?

12:52 Speaker 1: That's Jonah doing that part?

12:55 Speaker 4: Have you?

12:56 Speaker 1: How did you and Jonah meet? Because obviously this collab

13:00 Speaker 1: operation of the two of you is you know, as

13:02 Speaker 1: as we can hear, it works really well.

13:04 Speaker 3: So to go back to what you were asking a

13:07 Speaker 3: second ago. First, I'll tell you this, My plan is

13:12 Speaker 3: to eventually do more hands on stuff. The reason that

13:18 Speaker 3: it is the way that it is now is because

13:20 Speaker 3: he's all the way in Texas and we're in New England.

13:23 Speaker 3: So if it was more like a thing where I

13:28 Speaker 3: could be in a room with him, I one hundred

13:29 Speaker 3: percent would be doing more hands on. It just works

13:34 Speaker 3: the way that it is, and I appreciate the what

13:36 Speaker 3: it is, so I'm not going to ruin a good thing.

13:38 Speaker 3: You know, why change it if it's good. So as

13:42 Speaker 3: far as meeting him, he was in a band called

13:46 Speaker 3: Asylum Black, which is an industrial metal band and they're

13:50 Speaker 3: also out of Texas, I believe, and that was back

13:53 Speaker 3: in the early early two thousands, back on MySpace days.

13:56 Speaker 3: So I was following him because of that, and then

14:00 Speaker 3: within the last couple of years. I don't remember exactly

14:04 Speaker 3: how I found him. I think I found him through

14:07 Speaker 3: like a mutual friend, like he was in a band

14:10 Speaker 3: with that guy, and I was like, I remember this guy,

14:11 Speaker 3: so I added him. We started talking and that's how

14:14 Speaker 3: that started. And I should point out also because again

14:20 Speaker 3: this isn't released yet, but that is Jonah with me

14:23 Speaker 3: on there vocally, so like the the the chorus part

14:28 Speaker 3: where it's like underneath the cross they burn, his vocals

14:31 Speaker 3: are layered into mind so it sounds like two people.

14:36 Speaker 3: And then the part where it's underneath the altar voiceous

14:39 Speaker 3: cry that's Jonah by myself. But as far as like

14:43 Speaker 3: lyrics and the composition, as far as the idea, the

14:47 Speaker 3: imagery and all that that comes from me, I reach

14:50 Speaker 3: out to him and I say, this is what I

14:53 Speaker 3: want to do.

14:53 Speaker 2: Let's do this.

14:55 Speaker 3: So I reached out to him and I was like,

14:57 Speaker 3: I want you to actually do some Asylum Black stuff

15:00 Speaker 3: on this.

15:01 Speaker 2: Can you do that? And he's like, oh, absolutely, So

15:05 Speaker 2: he was.

15:05 Speaker 3: He was telling me recently that that kind of gave him,

15:09 Speaker 3: you know, little fire under him to get him to

15:11 Speaker 3: be like, oh, I haven't done this in like ten years.

15:13 Speaker 2: This makes me want to do this again.

15:14 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding.

15:15 Speaker 2: So that made me feel good too, because oh that's cool,

15:18 Speaker 2: you know.

15:18 Speaker 3: I'm when I told him, I was like, this is

15:20 Speaker 3: the reason I wanted to work with you in the

15:21 Speaker 3: first place, because of the Island Black. He was like, dude,

15:23 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anybody talk about that band in ten years.

15:26 Speaker 3: That that means a lot to me. So that's that's

15:28 Speaker 3: why I wanted him to be featured on here as

15:30 Speaker 3: a silent black.

15:31 Speaker 1: Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense if you're just

15:33 Speaker 1: joining us. We have nikolay Kine here from No Siva,

15:36 Speaker 1: and we've been talking about the news single spectrum of

15:40 Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, sanctum of the Unseen. I keep wanting

15:42 Speaker 1: to say a spectrum. I don't know why.

15:44 Speaker 2: I can see why.

15:46 Speaker 1: It just kind of looks like it on the screen

15:48 Speaker 1: to me, but I'm so I'm curious. So the previous

15:52 Speaker 1: track that we played, the last time that you were

15:54 Speaker 1: on Eternal Serpent Scream, was the process similar and because

16:00 Speaker 1: you worked with Jonah on that one too, obviously right?

16:02 Speaker 1: So was it was the process similar or I mean,

16:05 Speaker 1: obviously you've made some upgrades, like you said, in terms

16:07 Speaker 1: of the microphone and things that you've learned and things

16:10 Speaker 1: that he's learned too, I'm sure, But I mean, was

16:12 Speaker 1: the basic process similar?

16:14 Speaker 2: Basic process was similar?

16:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was just you know, as we'll get

16:18 Speaker 3: into a little bit later, there were a lot of

16:20 Speaker 3: things that were going on during the timeframe of my

16:22 Speaker 3: life last year that I was kind of doing this

16:26 Speaker 3: Originally I wanted to do it for me, but I

16:28 Speaker 3: was doing it for the wrong reasons. I was trying

16:30 Speaker 3: to impress certain people or you know, backstabby and snake like.

16:35 Speaker 3: I have no you know, affiliation with any of those

16:38 Speaker 3: people anymore. I completely cut them out of my life, right.

16:41 Speaker 3: The basic process, yes, was similar. He didn't do any

16:45 Speaker 3: vocals though.

16:46 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, do you want to talk about that? Like, well,

16:50 Speaker 1: you know what, what's what's been, what's happened to you

16:52 Speaker 1: and what you've been through.

16:54 Speaker 3: And I'm not really sure what I can and can't say,

16:59 Speaker 3: uh being on the radio. But for lack of a

17:02 Speaker 3: better word, there was a lot of persecution type of

17:06 Speaker 3: stuff that was going on. I was dealing with an

17:09 Speaker 3: ax of mine who is involved with the very far

17:14 Speaker 3: al right okay and in and out of court type stuff.

17:18 Speaker 3: So a lot of the time frame that I was

17:19 Speaker 3: trying to work on music, I wasn't in the right headspace.

17:24 Speaker 3: That's mentally taxing as well. Oh yeah, I fell dow

17:27 Speaker 3: a flight of stairs at my job and broke my

17:30 Speaker 3: back and messed up my ACL so I had to

17:33 Speaker 3: completely just stop doing everything physical for a while. And

17:37 Speaker 3: then on top of that I unfortunately got back into

17:40 Speaker 3: the drugs for a little while, and I'm you know,

17:43 Speaker 3: at this point, I think next month it'll be a

17:45 Speaker 3: year that I've been cleaned from that.

17:47 Speaker 1: Good for you, congratulations, that's excellent, excellent.

17:50 Speaker 2: But I just I don't know.

17:51 Speaker 3: I completely changed my entire outlook on life and I

17:53 Speaker 3: tried to be more positive and I don't associate with

17:57 Speaker 3: certain energies of people anymore. If if you serve me

18:00 Speaker 3: no purpose, then I don't want anything to do with you,

18:02 Speaker 3: because if you're just negative, you're gonna drag me down.

18:04 Speaker 2: And I don't write that.

18:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need that negativity. I'm curious about this.

18:09 Speaker 1: So you actually broke your back's.

18:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I slipped like a Lombard disc or two or

18:15 Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, I fell down like a fourteen steps.

18:18 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

18:19 Speaker 2: I used to work for a like a delivery service

18:23 Speaker 2: for food.

18:23 Speaker 1: Yeah.

18:24 Speaker 2: So we would go to these.

18:25 Speaker 3: Restaurants all over New England, and there was one in

18:28 Speaker 3: Boston that at the top of the stairs was slippery.

18:32 Speaker 2: And this is a problem.

18:33 Speaker 3: We had told them several times, like you're gonna make

18:35 Speaker 3: sure this is taking care of the standers. Yeah, and

18:37 Speaker 3: you're pushing a dolly cart down the stairs with like,

18:40 Speaker 3: you know, three hundred plus pounds worth of stuff. And

18:43 Speaker 3: that's all it took is I started to go down,

18:45 Speaker 3: I slipped. Oh my god, like catapulted me over and

18:49 Speaker 3: just right down the stairs.

18:50 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Brutal, brutal. How long were you? How long

18:55 Speaker 1: were you down with that?

18:56 Speaker 3: I mean that I was physically not really able to

19:00 Speaker 3: do a whole lot for I would say the first

19:03 Speaker 3: three or four months, but then I got put on

19:06 Speaker 3: light duty work. But I also, you know, I had

19:09 Speaker 3: to I wasn't on crutches or anything, but I did

19:11 Speaker 3: have to have like physical therapy, yeah, and wear like

19:15 Speaker 3: braces and all that stuff.

19:16 Speaker 2: So it wasn't fun.

19:18 Speaker 1: I am curious. I mean, if you don't want to

19:20 Speaker 1: answer this, I understand, but I'll just ask you know,

19:22 Speaker 1: because you mentioned, you know, returning to returning to the

19:26 Speaker 1: drug use, and I'm curious if that was directly related

19:30 Speaker 1: to your injury, because you know, obviously I can only

19:34 Speaker 1: imagine the I can't imagine the pain that you must

19:37 Speaker 1: have been in.

19:38 Speaker 3: No, I wasn't directed because or related because of that.

19:41 Speaker 3: That was more because of the mental anguish that I

19:44 Speaker 3: was dealing with during the timeframe and all the people

19:47 Speaker 3: and thinking like people that you thought were your friends

19:49 Speaker 3: are stabbing you in the back and talking crap about

19:51 Speaker 3: you behind your back. Yep, that was because of all

19:54 Speaker 3: of that, but just in general, everything that had been

19:58 Speaker 3: going on in the entire war during that time frame

20:01 Speaker 3: was just too much to handle. And I hadn't touched

20:05 Speaker 3: I mean, I drink socially, I don't smoke weed really

20:10 Speaker 3: anymore or anything like that. So doing something like that

20:15 Speaker 3: for the first time in almost two decades of my life,

20:18 Speaker 3: maybe a part of it was like, oh, I'm you know,

20:20 Speaker 3: I'm getting older. I'm almost to my next decade of life.

20:24 Speaker 3: Am I trying to hold on to some form of

20:26 Speaker 3: younger self? And that was why a lot of the

20:28 Speaker 3: things that happened transformed me now into the person that

20:32 Speaker 3: I am. Is a complete opposite. It's more positive. It's

20:34 Speaker 3: about living life to the fullest, so you know, and

20:37 Speaker 3: I've even reached out to other friends who struggle with

20:40 Speaker 3: addiction and trying to be like, hey, you need someone

20:42 Speaker 3: to talk to, hit me up anytime.

20:44 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Oh, that's excellent, very that's very positive.

20:49 Speaker 1: Do you still have that job? No, yeah. Good.

20:52 Speaker 2: There's a horrible company work for the people in general.

20:55 Speaker 2: Were just awful on top of it.

20:56 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, how were they about it? Handle in your

21:01 Speaker 1: your injury?

21:02 Speaker 3: They decided they were going to dock my pay by

21:04 Speaker 3: like a good seven dollars underpay and have me push

21:09 Speaker 3: a broom around.

21:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awful. It was just it was not

21:12 Speaker 2: worth my time.

21:12 Speaker 1: Hope you sue them.

21:14 Speaker 2: I tried. Yeah, they they had good lawyers, but it

21:18 Speaker 2: did not work.

21:19 Speaker 1: That's a bummer. Well, so we should play why don't

21:22 Speaker 1: we play this Eternal Serpents scream? This is an Eternal

21:26 Speaker 1: Serpents scream. This is the track that we featured the

21:29 Speaker 1: first time that you were here on the show with us,

21:31 Speaker 1: And you know, I think, uh, I think we should

21:34 Speaker 1: play that since we've been talking about a lot of

21:36 Speaker 1: what you were what you were going through back then,

21:38 Speaker 1: because you even mentioned, you know, so the last time

21:41 Speaker 1: that you were on the show, by the way, because

21:42 Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit off air, but

21:44 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of during that period, right.

21:46 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was like at the very beginning of it

21:48 Speaker 3: and it just proggressively got worse.

21:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I couldn't you know, for the record.

21:52 Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't tell that there was anything wrong,

21:54 Speaker 1: you know, when you were here. But but having said that,

21:57 Speaker 1: I can tell that you're you know, so it's obviously

22:00 Speaker 1: you're in a better place.

22:01 Speaker 2: Now, much better.

22:02 Speaker 1: I mean, I even though I couldn't detect at the

22:04 Speaker 1: time that there was anything wrong, but it was also

22:06 Speaker 1: the first time meeting you as well. Yeah, whereas you know,

22:09 Speaker 1: but I can see the change. I can see the

22:11 Speaker 1: difference in you now, which is very very cool.

22:14 Speaker 3: So I would like to point something out real quick. Yeah, yeah,

22:17 Speaker 3: to any of the people who haven't listened to this before.

22:20 Speaker 3: Obviously this is a year ago that this came out.

22:23 Speaker 3: The production is not as good as the one that

22:26 Speaker 3: we just listened to of the Unseen, so.

22:28 Speaker 2: Just bear with me.

22:29 Speaker 1: But still very good.

22:31 Speaker 3: Though I appreciate that there is an idea that I

22:34 Speaker 3: might toss around to Jonah that either we remix this

22:39 Speaker 3: and remaster it so it sounds just as good and

22:41 Speaker 3: add it to the album, or maybe just strip it

22:45 Speaker 3: down to bare bones and completely redo it.

22:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh interesting, but make it better, you know. Okay, yeah, yeah,

22:51 Speaker 1: absolutely well, but I do think it's really good, and

22:53 Speaker 1: that's why we're going to play it now. I still

22:55 Speaker 1: think this is a really good track. But here it

22:57 Speaker 1: is if you're just joining us. Of course, we have

22:58 Speaker 1: Nikolay Kine of No Civa here with us live in studio,

23:01 Speaker 1: and let's give this a spend. This is Eternal Serpent.

23:05 Speaker 6: Scream Baca.

24:33 Speaker 4: By ser It's right sat dry sun.

25:45 Speaker 5: Doss your place a.

26:28 Speaker 4: Man or, man or. Then I went to any house

27:18 Speaker 4: and Don Blacks where wid me anything? You don't have

27:24 Speaker 4: any say any house and don a lady like wow about.

28:29 Speaker 1: That is Eternal Serpents Scream from No Seva. And we

28:33 Speaker 1: have Nikolai Kane of No Siva here with us in

28:36 Speaker 1: the studio. And yeah, we were talking off air about

28:39 Speaker 1: about that and and how much you've how much you've

28:42 Speaker 1: worked on your vocals over the last year and and

28:45 Speaker 1: and you know you were you were telling me about

28:47 Speaker 1: how how much you've uh, you know, how you practice

28:51 Speaker 1: and and you know, and I can I can definitely

28:53 Speaker 1: hear the difference.

28:55 Speaker 4: You know.

28:55 Speaker 1: I still like that track a lot, But you know

28:57 Speaker 1: you're also talking about maybe redoing it, and we we

28:59 Speaker 1: talked about that in the last segment. But but no,

29:01 Speaker 1: I think it's really good, but it would be interesting

29:03 Speaker 1: to hear a newer version of that with your your

29:05 Speaker 1: you know, your improved vocal ability. I've always been fascinated

29:10 Speaker 1: by people who can even do that with your voice.

29:12 Speaker 1: Is that difficult to learn to be able to? Because obviously,

29:17 Speaker 1: you know, when you're learning to sing like that, to

29:20 Speaker 1: vocalize like that, you run the risk if you do

29:23 Speaker 1: it wrong. And I guess with any kind of singing really,

29:26 Speaker 1: but especially something like that where there's some you know,

29:28 Speaker 1: sort of a low growl, if you do it wrong,

29:31 Speaker 1: you could really screw up your vocal chords, right.

29:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean some people naturally can do it

29:38 Speaker 3: and some people really have to put some time in.

29:42 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:42 Speaker 2: The trick is using your diaphragm.

29:44 Speaker 3: Now, for me, I have found that I have a

29:50 Speaker 3: more natural, like false chords uh fries scream, which is

29:55 Speaker 3: that more of sound.

29:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

29:59 Speaker 3: My voice is now actually like more of a baritone,

30:02 Speaker 3: which is weird because when it comes to lows, they're

30:06 Speaker 3: not that easy for me to do really, So everybody

30:09 Speaker 3: is different, and they always say like, you got to practice,

30:12 Speaker 3: practice makes perfect, But learning to use your diaphragm, that

30:15 Speaker 3: is the key to it.

30:15 Speaker 2: If you don't, you will mess.

30:17 Speaker 3: Up your throat, you will destroy your vocal cords. I

30:20 Speaker 3: have strained my vocal cords many times before. But I

30:25 Speaker 3: you know, I have friends who are also metal musicians.

30:28 Speaker 3: My buddy Ross is like a very very intelligent musician

30:34 Speaker 3: in person just in general. But he he is very

30:37 Speaker 3: good at what he does. And he has taught me

30:41 Speaker 3: a couple of tricks and said like, oh, well, you

30:43 Speaker 3: got to make sure that you're feeling this, and if

30:45 Speaker 3: you don't feel that, then you're using your throat. You're

30:47 Speaker 3: not using your diaphragm. Okay, So the trick is, like

30:50 Speaker 3: I said, using and learning to use your diaphragm.

30:53 Speaker 2: And then.

30:54 Speaker 3: It's everybody has their own flair to what they do.

30:57 Speaker 3: Everybody has their own unique sound, but you got to

31:01 Speaker 3: find what your sound is.

31:03 Speaker 2: Yeah.

31:04 Speaker 3: So when I originally did the beginning of the new

31:09 Speaker 3: song Sanctum, I tried a method of a Japanese artist

31:14 Speaker 3: that I really like, and I've seen him live and

31:17 Speaker 3: I've seen him do this, and I wanted to try

31:19 Speaker 3: and seeing if.

31:20 Speaker 2: I could do it. What it would sound like.

31:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you more or less like vibrate your throat

31:24 Speaker 3: with your hand like you're hitting yourself in the throat.

31:27 Speaker 3: So I tried that and it came out interesting, but

31:30 Speaker 3: it wasn't the sound that I wanted to go for.

31:33 Speaker 3: It was very creepy though, really, but maybe I'll try,

31:36 Speaker 3: you know, and work with that idea later on in

31:38 Speaker 3: the future.

31:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh interesting. I am also curious about influences. I'm

31:46 Speaker 1: sure we talked about it last time. I don't remember,

31:47 Speaker 1: but we.

31:48 Speaker 2: Talked about it.

31:50 Speaker 3: Last time. Yeah, But as far as like musical influences general,

31:56 Speaker 3: there's just there's too damn mini yeah for this kind

32:00 Speaker 3: of stuff, though, I would say there's definitely, like you know,

32:04 Speaker 3: there's there's more of that industrial aspect.

32:06 Speaker 2: There's relevance to.

32:10 Speaker 3: Stuff that I grew up listening to, Like the one

32:12 Speaker 3: that I keep hearing people talk about to me specifically

32:16 Speaker 3: when they've heard both of these is they think that

32:20 Speaker 3: it's very reminiscent of the band Velvet Acid Crist.

32:23 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not familiar.

32:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're an older band, cool name. They've been

32:28 Speaker 3: around for quite some time, late eighties, early nineties. But

32:32 Speaker 3: what's ironic about that is, like I mean, I've listened

32:34 Speaker 3: to a couple of their songs. Yeah, I never really

32:37 Speaker 3: like called them an influencer listened to them and said like, oh,

32:40 Speaker 3: I really love this band.

32:42 Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of songs.

32:43 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:43 Speaker 3: But when people are saying like you should go listen

32:45 Speaker 3: to this band because this sounds like that, some of

32:47 Speaker 3: that is probably going to naturally come out because you

32:50 Speaker 3: heard it once upon a time. But as far as

32:52 Speaker 3: like influences in general, like there's just too many. But

32:57 Speaker 3: like the guy was mentioned a minute ago, Name's Kill.

33:00 Speaker 3: He's the vocals of a Japanese band called Darren Gray.

33:03 Speaker 3: He has the most insane vocal range I've ever heard.

33:06 Speaker 3: He has like twelve different octaves.

33:07 Speaker 1: Really.

33:08 Speaker 3: I think we talked about this last time a little bit. Yeah,

33:11 Speaker 3: he learned to throat sing with monks and I don't know,

33:13 Speaker 3: it's just wow. He's just very fascinating to me. So

33:16 Speaker 3: I've I've watched interviews where he talks about how he

33:19 Speaker 3: does things. Yeah, so he's kind of an influence. There's

33:23 Speaker 3: there's just there's a lot of people that are influences

33:26 Speaker 3: to me. I also am a big fan of Des

33:29 Speaker 3: Fafara from Cole Chamber and Double Driver. Yep, he has

33:33 Speaker 3: this nasty sound in his voice. Chad Gray from Hell Yeah,

33:38 Speaker 3: and mud Vane. He has a really big influence on me.

33:42 Speaker 3: I like the way that his you know, fry screams

33:44 Speaker 3: and false chords are So I try to take a

33:46 Speaker 3: little bit of of all of that also, like Nine Nails,

33:50 Speaker 3: Marilyn Manson, stuff like that. I try to take everything

33:52 Speaker 3: and mix it together and try to find my sound.

33:56 Speaker 1: Right right now, that makes sense. When you were when

34:01 Speaker 1: you were growing up, did you imagine I mean probably not,

34:04 Speaker 1: but because you told me about how you grew up,

34:07 Speaker 1: But I mean, did you ever kind of imagine that

34:10 Speaker 1: this is what you'd be doing?

34:12 Speaker 2: This is something I've always wanted to do it.

34:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because of where I came from, I

34:17 Speaker 3: would I didn't necessarily have the environment of musicians, right.

34:22 Speaker 3: So if you want to make certain kinds of music,

34:24 Speaker 3: you got to go to where that scene is, right

34:28 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying there's not an industrial metal scene

34:31 Speaker 3: out there, but you.

34:32 Speaker 2: Got to go to like Chicago, you got to go

34:35 Speaker 2: to Michigan. You got to go places like that.

34:38 Speaker 3: So I would do that and I would meet people

34:40 Speaker 3: through my travels at shows or whatever, but I never

34:44 Speaker 3: thought that it would bring me to New England and

34:46 Speaker 3: I would actually accomplish and be sitting here for the

34:48 Speaker 3: second time talking to you on a radio station. No,

34:51 Speaker 3: I didn't think that would ever happen. Yeah, but again,

34:53 Speaker 3: I've been to musicians on and off since I was

34:55 Speaker 3: fifteen years old. I've played in metal bands, I've played

34:58 Speaker 3: in folk cacus, thick band, electronic bands. Punk bands was

35:04 Speaker 3: the first thing I started out with. Ironically enough, we

35:08 Speaker 3: were talking about this earlier, but one of the first

35:10 Speaker 3: bands I ever played in was a Christian metal band,

35:13 Speaker 3: was it. Yeah, I'm trying to see if I can

35:15 Speaker 3: remember what the name was. Advocate the Martyr, I think is.

35:21 Speaker 6: What it was.

35:21 Speaker 1: Advocate the Martyr.

35:22 Speaker 2: It was like a school name metal band. It was

35:25 Speaker 2: like Christian influence.

35:26 Speaker 1: There's some Yeah, there's some good uh. I know some

35:29 Speaker 1: people will chuckle at that, but there's some really good

35:31 Speaker 1: Christian rock bands, you know. I used to years ago. Again,

35:34 Speaker 1: I'm not a religious person myself, but I worked for

35:37 Speaker 1: a promoter who was involved in I think now it's

35:39 Speaker 1: just called soul Fest, but originally it was the Inside

35:41 Speaker 1: Out Soul Festival. Yeah, and a few summers in a row,

35:44 Speaker 1: I was, you know, because I was being paid. I

35:48 Speaker 1: worked that festival and you know, I saw some bands

35:51 Speaker 1: I liked. There's some good stuff there.

35:52 Speaker 3: I saw the Christian metal band Red and Devil Driver

35:57 Speaker 3: before they were or not devil Driver, uh.

36:01 Speaker 2: Demon Slayer, whatever they're called. I think there's a big

36:05 Speaker 2: Christian metal band.

36:06 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what they're called, but Red was

36:09 Speaker 3: one of them, and I saw them before they were anybody.

36:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're like now like not.

36:16 Speaker 3: Even associated with Christianity, which is kind of ironic. But

36:22 Speaker 3: other influences that I just remembered, like I grew up

36:26 Speaker 3: listening to a lot of the like like the timeframe

36:29 Speaker 3: when I was in high school, there was like alternative

36:32 Speaker 3: bands and stuff, but there was also that mid range

36:36 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, two thousand and five, that's when

36:38 Speaker 3: like that hardcore scene came in. That's when things started

36:43 Speaker 3: becoming more like bands like uh, what are they called

36:49 Speaker 3: Suicide Silence with Mitch Looker. Originally they were a huge

36:53 Speaker 3: influence on me. Other bands like Another Texas Ban ironically

36:57 Speaker 3: was man, I just lost my train of thought. I

37:04 Speaker 3: can't think of what they're called. Yeah, But a lot

37:06 Speaker 3: of a lot of bands, and it's just ironic that

37:08 Speaker 3: some of those bands are from Texas or whatever, and

37:11 Speaker 3: now I'm working with someone who's from Texas.

37:13 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot

37:16 Speaker 1: of good music that comes out of that that state.

37:19 Speaker 1: We've had, especially like Austin and Dallas Fort Worth. We've

37:24 Speaker 1: had a lot of guests who've joined us remotely, especially

37:27 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, who are from Texas.

37:30 Speaker 1: I think actually I think last week we had somebody

37:32 Speaker 1: on from Austin. But yeah, there's a lot of great stuff,

37:36 Speaker 1: you know, that comes out of Texas, especially metal.

37:40 Speaker 3: Well that's what we were talking about last time. I

37:41 Speaker 3: think I said that Corpus Christy was the metal capital

37:44 Speaker 3: of the US. I believe that's true.

37:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's there's a lot of great stuff that

37:50 Speaker 1: comes out of there. If you're just joining us. We

37:52 Speaker 1: have Nikolay Caine from uh No Ceva and what So,

37:57 Speaker 1: what's what's next for you or do you know? I mean,

38:00 Speaker 1: obviously this is brand new, the new single, Sanctum of

38:03 Speaker 1: the Unseen, But do you know, I mean, I know

38:05 Speaker 1: you're kind of toying with the idea of redoing Eternal

38:08 Speaker 1: Serpent screen, but do you know, do you know what's next?

38:12 Speaker 1: Do you have another song? Another new song you're working

38:14 Speaker 1: on or so.

38:15 Speaker 3: Originally, when I was here the first time, the plan was,

38:19 Speaker 3: before all the craziness happened, was to release that, then

38:23 Speaker 3: release the next song, then release another song, and then

38:26 Speaker 3: work on, you know, promoting it as much as possible,

38:30 Speaker 3: finding live members. Everything fell apart. So now where we are,

38:34 Speaker 3: now that we are where we are now, excuse me,

38:37 Speaker 3: everything is completely shifted for the better. What I want

38:41 Speaker 3: to do now is release I think one more so

38:45 Speaker 3: there'll be three singles, okay, and then that timeframe either

38:51 Speaker 3: create something completely new, or like I had mentioned, maybe

38:55 Speaker 3: just remastering and remixing Eternal and then putting the three

39:00 Speaker 3: out there for the viewing public, and just promote as

39:03 Speaker 3: much as possible, fine live members, because I really want

39:05 Speaker 3: to do this live. Yeah, and then from there make

39:09 Speaker 3: a music video. Okay, that is the plan, and then eventually,

39:12 Speaker 3: like right, the rest of the album, promote it, go

39:15 Speaker 3: out play Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's that's the dream goal.

39:18 Speaker 3: But right, reality has a way of kicking in the nuts.

39:21 Speaker 1: If you're determined to get there, you'll get there.

39:23 Speaker 2: Well, I'm definitely determined as you are, see you are, No,

39:26 Speaker 2: I believe it.

39:27 Speaker 1: I believe it.

39:28 Speaker 2: Josh for a Cowboy was that band? I was thinking,

39:30 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Josh for a Cowboy. Yeah yeah, huge

39:33 Speaker 2: influence in high school.

39:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well, so I think what

39:37 Speaker 1: we'll do to close out the segment. I think we'll do,

39:41 Speaker 1: you know, we'll play, uh what, We'll play the new

39:43 Speaker 1: single again? Of course if you're just joining us, we

39:46 Speaker 1: have Nicolauk came from no Ceva and the new single

39:49 Speaker 1: is called Sanctum of the Unseen and this is this

39:52 Speaker 1: is not on the streaming platforms yet, correct.

39:54 Speaker 3: No, And it's also featuring Jonah Hernandez from Asylum Black.

39:58 Speaker 1: Jonah Hernandez Asylum Black, that's what.

40:00 Speaker 2: It is, a really cool name.

40:04 Speaker 1: And this is Do you know when this is going

40:05 Speaker 1: to be available on digital platforms.

40:07 Speaker 3: Or I'm thinking I'm gonna probably try and release it

40:10 Speaker 3: within the next two weeks, okay, give or take.

40:12 Speaker 1: Okay, but if you're listening to the show on July

40:14 Speaker 1: twenty fifth Live, you are hearing it here first. So

40:18 Speaker 1: we're we're very happy to very happy to be the

40:21 Speaker 1: first ones to have this and happy to have you back.

40:23 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're doing so much better.

40:25 Speaker 2: Thank you man.

40:25 Speaker 3: It's been a wonderful experience coming back, and I really

40:28 Speaker 3: appreciate you having me again after everything that happened this

40:30 Speaker 3: past year. This has been such a blessing to have again.

40:33 Speaker 1: Oh I'm glad. I'm very glad. And where's the best

40:36 Speaker 1: place for people to go online to keep up with

40:37 Speaker 1: everything that you're doing.

40:39 Speaker 3: I mostly post on my No Siva page directly, which

40:43 Speaker 3: is on Facebook. It's just no Civa on Facebook dot com.

40:47 Speaker 3: But I also post fairly regularly on my TikTok page,

40:51 Speaker 3: which is also.

40:51 Speaker 2: Just no Ceva.

40:52 Speaker 1: And we should spell that for people too.

40:54 Speaker 2: K nosiv a, no Siva.

40:58 Speaker 1: No Civa, very good, very good, all right, And Nikolai

41:01 Speaker 1: Kane of No Siva, thank you again so much. And uh,

41:04 Speaker 1: if you are listening live on Saturday, We've got a

41:07 Speaker 1: superbug coming up in the third hour and I've been

41:10 Speaker 1: texted they have arrived. But we will close out this

41:13 Speaker 1: segment with this, the brand new single from No Siva

41:16 Speaker 1: Sanctum of the Unseen.

41:17 Speaker 2: Thank You, Bess You Cash.

41:44 Speaker 4: Smash Cass sent against sixty six cents a scot Since.

42:17 Speaker 7: Weston names are gonna comfy, they got pay up songs

42:22 Speaker 7: for the braceless said so something episode sis sink Riscat

42:29 Speaker 7: says places and this side or.

42:33 Speaker 4: Sup I married a raceng I saw a book a

42:45 Speaker 4: rescal bor or or race saw I saw that book.

42:55 Speaker 4: I don't asca, I have a drum or or or

43:06 Speaker 4: else the cats like cards, I say. It's about that

43:12 Speaker 4: as well past sense like and love. It also shadow.

43:16 Speaker 9: Spreading, the stake and a lotto.

43:19 Speaker 8: What he was saying what I've always said there didn't

43:22 Speaker 8: go speak or sell dinerstras whole I get there with

43:28 Speaker 8: all I see, I say I saw I saved, ask

43:46 Speaker 8: come down or.

43:49 Speaker 5: Say else?

43:54 Speaker 4: So hard sam day.

44:15 Speaker 10: By bag the hands, somebody says, by gons me body

44:23 Speaker 10: as rats try to jumps that say so says.

44:46 Speaker 8: As manure may say all.

44:53 Speaker 4: Else, so say

45:00 Speaker 5: Hey,