Lyle Hutchins | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: What a great song. That is Stockholm Syndrome. That's the song. The artist is Lyle Hutchins and we're gonna talk to Lyle in just a moment.

0:08 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

0:08 Speaker 1: We have entered our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed. If you are listening live on Saturday July twenty six, twenty twenty five, we are broadcasting, of course, from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here as well at the news table and joining us to be a Microsoft teams He's been waiting patiently Lyle Hutchins is here.

0:32 Speaker 3: Hello, Lyle, Hey, thanks for having me. Guys. Happy to be.

0:37 Speaker 1: Here, absolutely no, thanks for your patience. We are running a little bit behind this morning, but it's great to talk with you. Don't worry though, we have plenty of time. I love that song.

0:44 Speaker 2: That is great. I love your voice.

0:46 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely Now is that relatively new? That's your newest single?

0:49 Speaker 2: Correct?

0:51 Speaker 3: So yeah? I just on June twenty seventh, I just released my debut album and it's fourteen songs and that one we just released a music video for on YouTube.

1:02 Speaker 2: So oh excellent.

1:04 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I've I've been. I just graduated from college in New Orleans, studying music and this is sort of my my big project is putting everything into so super happy for it to be out on the airwaves and everything.

1:21 Speaker 1: So, oh, congratulations. Are you in New Orleans now?

1:26 Speaker 3: No, I just moved back to New Hampshire. Actually, funny enough, I was in Manchester the other week, so.

1:32 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding, Yeah, yeah, what what's what's the bigger culture shock moving to New Orleans the first time, or or coming coming back after after going to school there.

1:44 Speaker 3: It's you know, I I don't know, probably moving to New Orleans for the first time. It's it's mostly the heat and getting used to how nice everyone is. People are nice here, but the I think the kind of trade mark New England bluntness, which personally I kind of like, like, you know, if you break down on the side of the road, somebody will help you, but they'll call you an idiot the whole time. But yeah, I think I think it's it's probably a bit of bolt Maybe I don't know.

2:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I get it, I get it.

2:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, the heat that I mean, it's it's humid there too, right, it's not a dry heat in Les. Yeah yeah, never never actually been, I've never actually been.

2:28 Speaker 3: But it's a great city.

2:30 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no doubt.

2:32 Speaker 1: Now that you're back in New Hampshire, I mean, do you do you plan to sack ground up here or what's your what's kind of your next move?

2:38 Speaker 3: I'm not totally sure at this point, but I'm probably gonna stick around to Hampshire for a while, especially since I've been playing these shows and music stuff's been going pretty well. So yeah, I'm kind of seeing seeing where things will go, but I'm enjoying being back up here right now for sure.

2:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. Excellent, excellent.

2:56 Speaker 1: So tell me about your name, because I was reading something about you online that your name is actually uh well, tell us about the name Lyle Hutchins and where it comes from because it has a specific derivation.

3:08 Speaker 3: Yes, So my folks met in a like nineties alt country band and they were really inspired by people like Lyle love It. So that's where Lyle comes from. And actually got to meet Lyle love It my junior year of college. I got picked my college with a couple of other friends to go to Americana Fest in Nashville, and I got to meet him there and actually said, oh, yeah, like, I'm named after you, and he was, I'm so sorry. So it was really funny, but it turned out to be super nice guy. It was a very cool opportunity.

3:53 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was kind of a cool full circle moment for me personally. But yeah, that's where the name comes from.

4:00 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So your parents so they were in a band together in the nineties.

4:05 Speaker 3: M hmm, yeah, like a local It was called Selling Muicks.

4:08 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but I think it was.

4:14 Speaker 3: I don't know how long it lasted exactly, but yeah, that's uh. I get a lot of my musical influence from them and kind of the artists that they raised me listening to do.

4:25 Speaker 1: Uh did they teach you how to play or and and to sing or or did you kind of learn that on your own?

4:32 Speaker 3: So I yeah, I definitely My dad helped me with some very like basic guitar stuff when I was younger and getting kind of like accompanied me while I sort of sang my way through a couple of songs that I liked, but I didn't stick with it a ton. When I was I was in like a school choir, pretty young, So I did a lot of that, and I did some musical theater stuff, so I got a lot of singing kind of the technique of it from that. Okay, But guitar wise, I wanted to learn guitar when I was younger, but my dad had watched an interview with Prince where Prince was talking about how artists should have, you know, creative control and should be able to understand things like music theory, and so he was kind of pointing out that you should learn the piano first.

5:24 Speaker 3: So I actually learned piano before I learned guitar, which I do actually credit with a lot of my music theory knowledge. And I only picked up guitar at the end of sophomore year in high school. Okay, so I've been playing for about six years. Like seriously, I think i'd fooled around on it before.

5:42 Speaker 2: But yeah, but.

5:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense to what you were saying about learning piano first, because this is a subject that comes up on the show every once in a while. I've heard a lot of a lot of you know, music instructors and various people say over the years that that is a really good way to go because even if you have no interest, you know, even just learning some very basic keyboarding skills, even if you have no interest in playing a keyboard, it really kind of trains your brain to, you know, in terms of how to think of chord structures and learning music theory.

6:17 Speaker 1: Sadly, I did not start that way. I wish that I had. I can't play keyboard at all. I'm a bass player and I can play a little bit of guitar. But but I've heard so many people say that it really the ideal thing is to start on keyboard and then go from there because once you have that, everything else is going to be easier to learn.

6:36 Speaker 2: And it makes sense.

6:37 Speaker 1: I didn't know that Prince had said that, but it completely makes sense because and obviously he must have been onto something because Prince was one of those people who could play anything.

6:46 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, totally, yeah, for sure.

6:49 Speaker 2: You know he had.

6:51 Speaker 1: I did hear him though. I heard him say in an interview once. So I think this was an interview that I read might have been in Rolling Stone, that people had a misperception of him that you know, he could just pick up any instrument and just know how to play it, that he was that much of a genius. And that it wasn't that it was that he just was able to learn to play anything, but there was still a learning process and he could learn he could learn very quickly, probably because he had those skills of learning on piano first.

7:19 Speaker 1: He could learn very quickly, but but he still had to learn how to learn to play everything.

7:24 Speaker 3: Yeah.

7:25 Speaker 1: I also read something about you that you like when you did a project in grade school and that was kind of like the beginning of your sort of almost an awakening of realizing that this is what you wanted to do.

7:38 Speaker 2: Is that correct?

7:39 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. So I went to this very small.

7:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

7:45 Speaker 3: I think I joined the school in sixth grade, and uh, yeah, it was. We had this thing called Olympics Studies. The school's Mount Shadows and it's near Dublin, Hahamshire anyways, Okay, but they they basically it was like I can't remember how long exactly. It probably felt longer than it actually was as a kid, but it was like two to four weeks out of the year. You would focus on one subject, like really intensely, and you could pick kind of what you wanted to focus on. And so in my eighth grade I was really interested in songwriting, and so I picked that and one of the people that worked at the school at the time is Duncan Pelletier, and he's a great musician and just a really nice guy, and he kind of took me to his apartment where he had like a little setup and we recorded some songs that I was writing, I think on the ukulele I actually because I didn't know how to play guitar at that time, but and recorded like a little EP that I still have stored away somewhere on my computer.

8:55 Speaker 3: But yeah, any and in short, that moment kind of I realized like, oh, I really loved doing this. I love the recording process, I love writing the songs, and I loved performing them. So it kind of just it all kind of came together and I realized, like, oh, this is really what I want to do. Yeah, So yeah, that was at that moment for me for sure.

9:14 Speaker 2: Did you say that you were playing the ukulele, I was, yeah.

9:19 Speaker 3: I mean I still have the same one lying around somewhere.

9:22 Speaker 1: Well, so you learned that before you learned guitar.

9:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it was the it was the era of a lot of cringey white people on the internet playing like I looked back on and out it crumbs a little bit, but I think it was what was that song riptied by vance Joy? It was like a big thing in my when I was in eighth grade, and I think I had gotten euclid, and I think I just learned some like very because some of the like chords are just you just put one finger down or something, and so I didn't know exactly what I was doing, but I learned enough to be like, Okay, I like this and and that kind of thing.

10:01 Speaker 3: But I think I had a song on the EP that we made that was on piano as well. But yeah, that's where I started doing the more string instruments thing.

10:13 Speaker 2: Yeah.

10:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I assume, I mean, your parents must have been pretty supportive through all this, right as you're doing this as musicians themselves. I always say that's really important. If you have supportive parents, you know, who are gonna really help you kind of foster that and you know, and encourage you to keep going.

10:29 Speaker 2: I think that makes a big difference.

10:30 Speaker 3: Right, Definitely. I'm so grateful for them. They've been really supportive, like every step of the way, sometimes more supportive than I've been myself. But yeah, I'm really lucky to have them and just I think getting yeah, like the older perspective of someone who's actually been a musician and been in a band is great. Yeah, And just growing up with that like musical influence and a lot of the people they were listening to was pretty awesome too.

10:57 Speaker 2: So oh yeah, yeah, that's interesting what you said. A sometimes they may have pushed you more.

11:02 Speaker 1: Than you you know, or encouraged you more than you were able to yourself. Were there were there times when when you were getting discouraged, but they you know, they they obviously you know, obviously they believe in you. There your parents, right, But were they were they kind of uh sort of helping to push you along at times where maybe you, I don't know, maybe you were discouraged or maybe you were losing interest. You know, sometimes as we're growing up, sometimes our priorities change. I mean, what what do you mean, like expand on that a little bit.

11:30 Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's funny because they I definitely always had like a musical I wouldn't necessarily say natural talent, but I had an inclination. I just knew I liked it. Yeah, but I think they never really wanted to. They didn't want to be those parents that were like, you know, trying to make a prodigy prodigy out of their kid, and and so I think they were they they would kind of like gently nudge me in a direction. But you know, it's funny. I think I definitely there were a lot of moments like that where I kind of felt discouraged or because I didn't.

12:08 Speaker 3: I'm still quite bad at reading. I mean, I can read a churt Yard pretty well, but when it comes to standard notation, reading a melody and everything, especially guitar wise, I'm so slow. Part of it's just because it's not really what I've wanted to prioritize career wise, I put less time into it. But I you know, going to music school, especially where one of my favorite artists, Saint Vincent, she read a quote from her where she said she went to Berkeley, and she was talking about kind of musical athleticism, like the sort of competition that I can play this scale the fastest I can, like technical proficiency and instrument which I think is a great thing to learn.

12:54 Speaker 3: And I was very grateful that I got to learn from so many great mentors in music school. But sometimes is being surrounded by people whose only focus is technical proficiency versus like artistic you know, creation can be a bit demoralizing, and so I definitely started to feel that during kind of like midway through college, like I might not be technically proficient enough or you know, kind of just the I think you can lose perspective when you're when you're in a place where everyone is so good, that makes sense.

13:31 Speaker 3: So I think I think there are some of that.

13:33 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting.

13:38 Speaker 1: And and tell me a little bit about about your influences, because you know, obviously I listened to UH, the single Stockholm Syndrome, but I also went back and was listening to UH on band camp some of your your earlier work too, And in fact, another another song that I really love is UH. Although I don't think this one's very this one might even be on the album mis Staying in Line on the album.

14:00 Speaker 3: Yes, it was one of the singles I put up.

14:03 Speaker 1: This Okay, yeah, that song I'm going to play at the end of our segment because I really like I really like that one too. But I'm curious about your influences because I can hear a lot of different things in there. It sounds like, uh, you know, and it makes sense that you know, your parents being musicians, it makes sense that you would be probably exposed to a lot of different kinds of music from a very young age. But but but I'm curious about who who influences your songwriting.

14:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's changed a lot. When I was growing up, I had a huge radio head phase, So there's that. Well though, yeah, I don't know that I'm as I still appreciate them, but and you know, there was I think stuff. I think there was things that trickled in from my folks like wilco Son Voult, like all that kind of nineties alternative country stuff. But I think the I really started coming into my own with some artists that I admired in high school. A huge one for me is Rustin Kelly. He's like a sort of Americana alternative country as well artist, and I just really connected with his songwriting.

15:12 Speaker 3: And he also fuses elements of things like pop punk and and some electronic things into his songwriting, and that really inspired me. I'm also a huge Bony Bear fan, so I've listened to I'm Yeah, I've enjoyed every album from the beginning, and that was a when I was in middle school. My dad played me for Emma Forever ago and that really kind of sparked something within me songwriting wise. I'm also a huge Snail Mail fan, especially for her first album, Lush. I think she was a huge reason why I started playing guitar.

15:53 Speaker 3: Was just really inspired by her electric guitar style because she'd play electric, but she'd played fingerstyle a lot. Yeah, so that was something that I was always kind of drawn to, and so it's changed a lot. Those are those are three big ones. Recently, I've just I've been on a huge Tyler Childers kicks. I've been really enjoying his stuff. Okay, but yeah, it's been It's been a little bit of a little bit of everybody. I'm sure there's some more. I think I'll tack on two other quick ones. Porches is A is a project that I'm a huge fan of.

16:32 Speaker 3: Just the kind of d I Y do yourself thing has always appealed to me, especially with like the home recording aspects, and that's something that that band does really well. And also for similar reason, Josie and the Vonnaville's is a big influence for me too.

16:50 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and what and and tell me about your your lyrics a bit, because it feels like, again, I listened to it to quite a few songs, and you know, they're not they're not simple. Uh yeah, I feel like I feel like you're almost like you as as a protagonist in the songs. You're you're working through some things. Maybe I don't know. I mean, I mean it's deep stuff. Tell me about kind of your point of view in terms of your lyrics. Obviously different songs, different different backstories, but but I'm very curious about that.

17:26 Speaker 3: I mean, I think this whole album. So the album's called flat Lander, and I took it from sort of, you know, the regional New England thing of just referring to people from I guess, flatter parts in the country. Yeah, but I I thought it was kind of funny. But I also sort of after living in New Orleans for four years, I kind of realized, like, I've become a flat Lander. And I just think that the the process of moving down there, and just like, honestly, these last four to five years of my life changed me a lot in a lot of really positive ways.

18:05 Speaker 3: But the road there was often quite difficult. And I struggled as a lot of kind of tendencies towards like self isolation and just low mood and a lot of issues like that, nothing too crazy, but just generally feeling pretty like discontented with my life despite things being overall pretty all right. And so I think that's a lot of what these songs are about. The one you just heard, Stockholm Syndrome is specifically about just feeling stuck. So I'm from Chesterfield, New Hampshire, which is I think it has three thousand residents.

18:47 Speaker 3: Oh wow, the town. Yeah, it's not even like classified as a town. I think it's classified as a village. It's a great place and the people who live here are wonderful, but you know, it's mostly old generation, and when you're young, it can feel very just like, oh, there's nothing to do. And I also a lot of my schooling and education kind of felt pretty restrictive at times, especially throughout high school. And I also just I think I was one of those people that because I had parents who pushed me in good ways, but I was like pretty academically decent, not to toot my own horn too much, but during high school, and so I think the pressure of always trying to exceed myself and that eventually started getting to me and I started getting like migraines and this thing where I'd break out in hives.

19:44 Speaker 3: I think some of it might have been like the hormonal you know stage where I was growing up. But long story short, I was dealing all of that, and I was dealing with a lot of anxiety and these feelings. And I think going to college, especially in the Deep South where well especially New Orleans that can really only speak to New Orleans, but where there's just there's like a there's a different pace of life, partially because the heat slows everyone down, like you just can't you can't go do a million things.

20:13 Speaker 3: And I also think they've been through so much tragedy and upheaval that there's there is a sense of like people trying to lift each other up. And so I think going down there, I kind of like took a took a breather, and it gave me some perspective to look at a lot of these things. So I think that's what in a nutshell a lot of the songs are about.

20:37 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean I can relate to the part about too you were saying I'm someone who you know, I deal with depression and and this this is no no secret to people who were longtime listeners of the show. I'm pretty open about it. But but I know something you said that resonated with me is, you know, when it seems like life is going pretty much okay, but you just don't feel right, you know, And I can relate to that, and I think a lot of people can relate to that and connect with it, you know, and you're you're not even sure why you're feeling, why you're feeling the way you are, you just are and yet and it's hard to and it's hard to identify, and and people who don't experience anything like that, they can't relate to it.

21:14 Speaker 1: So it's hard to explain to people sometimes too, why you feel that way if they're if they're looking from the outside and saying, well, you know, it looks looks to me like everything's pretty good, and and you're kind of feeling like, yeah, everything is pretty good, and yet I don't feel good right totally?

21:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, definitely.

21:31 Speaker 2: That's a that's a common thing. How so, so how are you? How are you today?

21:35 Speaker 1: I mean you sound upbeat and positive, I mean, are things better or are things I mean, you just grat in college, so you're still adjusting in some ways. But that must be a relief though, too, I would guess, oh.

21:47 Speaker 3: For sure. I mean, yeah, and honestly, I had a great college experience, but it was it's definitely a relief to be to be done. I was like, yeah, You're never gonna have to write a ten page paper again. So those but no. But in all seriousness, uh, I think I'm you know, I'm readjusting being back up here and and just you know, a big change my life. But aside from that, I'm doing pretty well actually, which is which is good. And yeah, I've I've kind of stayed in touch with a lot of my friends up here, so it's been nice to kind of reconnect to the community and kinda yeah, just be doing all this music stuff feels pretty great too.

22:30 Speaker 3: So I'm yeah, no, I'm in a pretty good place now. And I think for me, that's when I play these songs live especially, it feels very I don't know, it feels kind of cathartic and triumphant at the same time, like not like all my problems are gone, but I've kind of I've moved beyond that period of my life and I kind of feel like I can look back at those moments from with a different perspective. Yeah yeah, so yeah.

22:56 Speaker 1: Well something that comes up on the show, This comes up constantly the show, in fact, it would seems, is you know, the the idea of creating art and using that.

23:06 Speaker 2: As a way to work through whatever it is it's bothering you.

23:10 Speaker 1: And and because you know it's it's it's a great form of therapy in a sense, right, because you're creating something. You're taking something negative, you know, whether it's anxiety or whatever it is, and a trauma that you're dealing with and creating art from that, you know what I mean? What could be better than that? Right, taking that that negativity and darkness and creating something that not only is cathartic for you, but other people can relate to and get something from it too. So you're also sort of passively helping others at the same time while you're actively helping yourself by creating this art.

23:42 Speaker 1: And so I think that's great and I'm glad you're feeling better. What what's kind of your do you have? Do you have kind of mapped out in your idea, a trajectory for where you want to take things going into the future. In terms of your career. I mean, obviously the album, the album flat Lander is pretty new, so I assume you're largely focused on promoting that. But do you have some kind of long term goals or are you just kind of figuring things out or I mean, yeah.

24:09 Speaker 3: I think I definitely wanna, yeah, keep promoting this album, and really my goal is just to get in front of as many people as I can. I think that, you know, long term, I'd love for this to be, you know, my full time career, and I'm kind of willing to put in the grind to do that. So for me right now, it's just a lot of it is just playing wherever we'll have me, you know, playing as many shows as I can, and kind of keep promoting things on social media. And really, i'd you know, i'd like to get to a point where I can start, you know, kind of opening for for other people.

24:51 Speaker 3: And and I want to personally, I mean, for immediate future next steps, I'd love to just get more connected to the musical community around here and you know, link up with some other bands and artists. You know, outside my sort of immediate bubble, but yeah, I mean ultimately long term, I'd really love to make this my full time career. So a lot of that is just uh yeah, I guess just grinding it out for lack of a better term.

25:20 Speaker 2: Is that is that challenging at all?

25:21 Speaker 1: Because geographically you're in uh you know, you're not exactly in a booming metropolis.

25:26 Speaker 2: Right.

25:28 Speaker 3: No, and it may you know, necessitate at some point in the future a move move to somewhere like that.

25:37 Speaker 3: But I think, you know, I actually feel like the southern New Hampshire, sort of western mass like this general area music scene. I don't know, there's, at least for me, a lot of my one of my favorite artists have swung by here sometimes even fifteen minutes. Next week you're gonna go see John Morland and Braderborough. And I just was at the Green River Music Festival and saw Wax Hatchie and m J. Lenderman there, which is great. So I don't know. I think, I think that there's a cool kind of music scene.

26:13 Speaker 3: But obviously I think if I really want to make this at some point in the future full time thing, I'm gonna have to tour extensively, So that'll that'll definitely be part and that's a big part of like next steps. I have a friend my friends is she's also a singer songwriter, and she lives in Atlanta. So we're gonna, I think, at some point in the future we want to do kind of like a up the East Coast sort of tour and get that under our legs and then see see how things go. So but yeah, I'm kind of still figuring it out from being honest, but sure, but yeah, that's sort of the trajectory thus far.

26:51 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, Well, I think you're off to a great start. And congratulations on the release of Flatlander. I assume it's on all the streaming platforms and everything.

26:58 Speaker 3: Yes, it's out everyone. And I've got two music videos and a lyric video on my YouTube channel for that. So one of my songs, M I A got fifty five thousand views and five k likes, so that was pretty awesome, that is. Yeah, and it also got my so my friend Peam we went to high school together and Peem's an incredible filmmaker and so he helped me with both these music videos we did and we submitted M I A to a bunch of film festivals and we got we just got screened in one in Pennsylvania, the MMM Film Fests.

27:36 Speaker 3: So that was really cool. Oh so I'm just really stoked at the response that I've gotten thus far. I've got some press pieces out as well, and yeah, so that's that's been pretty great.

27:50 Speaker 2: Yeah.

27:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can check it out, check it out wherever on all the all the platforms.

27:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, by the way, and I congratulations, it sounds like M I A Is doing really well. That's fantast I will tell you something kind of funny. I wanted to play that one because I really like that song. But the only real that there's right at the end, there's a there's a word that I would have to Now, I do make radio edits sometimes if I really want to play something, if the artist doesn't have a radio edit available, I'll just make one. And I wanted to do it for that song, and I almost did, but then I was like, geez, you know what I feel like in this particular instance, if I do that, it kind of wrecks the song in a way, even though the word appears at the very end of the song.

28:33 Speaker 1: But it's kind of it kind of puts a stamp on the song lyrically, and it's like if I take it, because you know what I do is I call it the poor Man's radio edit. I just reverse it wherever the swear is.

28:45 Speaker 2: I just so.

28:46 Speaker 1: But I was like, but I was like, if I do that to that song, I don't know, I think it kind of I don't want to. I don't want to inadvertently tamper with your art and wreck the song, you know what I mean.

28:58 Speaker 3: I know I appreciate that. I mean I think I'd thought about submitting that one, and then I remember the radio edit and I had a similar feeling of like I think it would take out a little bit of the punch and the story of the song.

29:10 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

29:12 Speaker 3: But but people, can you know, check that out on their own if they're interested.

29:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I encourage people to do that. But I also, I do really like this track staying in line that we're gonna play in a moment. Can you tell us anything about the lyrics to this? I feel like there's a message here.

29:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's a there's a very concrete story as well. Because so I was I can't remember which year of college, but I was back in the area and my friends I will name names because they wish to be an autous even though the names get named in the song. But whatever. Yeah, But they they were throwing this New Year's party. And I'm not a huge I've never been a huge like partyer or drinker personally, but yeah, I've just never really appealed to me. And I think I have a bit of There's some alcoholism on both sides of my family, so I should be a little aware of that.

30:08 Speaker 3: Not not my folks, but just extended family. So sometimes I wonder about anyways, that's a bit of a there is.

30:16 Speaker 1: There is research for the shows as a genetic component to that, and that is good to be aware of.

30:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, So.

30:23 Speaker 3: I you know, I think for that reason, I've I've I'm a little bit more moderate with it. But I ended up going to my friend's party and we were we all sort of were hanging out and his older brother there. They had made this big bonfire and his alter brother was like in a forklift and just like shoving loads of hay onto the fire. It was just like this very chaotic kind of goofy ridiculous, Like we there was a bottle in the fire and we were just watching it melt and we were like joking that that's what you do in New Hampshire, is like this is the only fun thing to do.

30:56 Speaker 3: So it was it was, it was, you know, it was just a goofy time. But on a deeper level, I think that song is about kind of you know, when you travel and when when you know you grow up you become a different person. And I think for me going to New Orleans and and kind of I gained a lot more confidence and I thought about things differently and kind of got out of my bubble. And I think coming back and being with friends you kind of can have a different relationship with them than you did previously. Yeah, And and I think for me in the long term that's been awesome.

31:32 Speaker 3: And we've actually had a lot of these friends that I've stuck with, like have We've had a deeper connection than we had previously. But I think that initially it can be a little like jarring, you know, or like feeling like everyone else's lives are moving on without you. M M. And So that's kind of the kind of duality that I was trying to put into words with that one.

31:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that makes that makes a lot of sense to me. I think, uh yeah, because I really cannected to this one when I looked and you know, and I read the lyrics to on band camp and really, yeah, this one, this one really connects with me on that way.

32:06 Speaker 2: So I totally get what you're saying. So we will.

32:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna play that in a moment to finish up. But Lyle, where's the best place to go online for people who want to keep up with everything that you're doing, you know, follow your your career as you as you go forward. Maybe you've got shows coming up?

32:23 Speaker 2: Do you have anything? Are you playing anywhere this weekend? By the way that you want to plug too.

32:27 Speaker 3: Yes, I thank you for that. I yes, I'm gonna be playing in Nashua at Terminus Underground, which is one thirty four Haynes Street, and there's a fifty dollars cover. It's going to be myself, Jesse Rudstein, Conceptacor and Joshua Nobody as well as a bunch of art vendors excellent and I believe depending on whether if it rains, it's still gonna happen. It's just gonna be inside the venue, but if it's a nice day out, we're going to have it out kind of in the lot and will be a cool little art fair. I'm gonna be performing from two to three, but you should show up with the whole event, which is from one to six tomorrow.

33:08 Speaker 2: So very good.

33:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my most recent show and super stoked. And the folks over there connected me with y'all, so oh yeah, super happy about that. And there they seem like a really great venue and just awesome people, so oh absolutely, no, we love that'll be a great one.

33:26 Speaker 1: We love Terminus. Eleanor and Andre are amazing. And have you actually physically been there yet?

33:32 Speaker 3: No, I'm really excited to check it out.

33:34 Speaker 2: I have not.

33:35 Speaker 1: I tell everyone the same thing. When the first time you walk into that room, it's like stepping into another world.

33:40 Speaker 2: It's so cool.

33:41 Speaker 3: When you've seen the pictures, it looks really cool.

33:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it is, it's it's it's awesome. So you'll you'll have a great time there. And uh, where where should people? Where should people go online to keep up with everything?

33:52 Speaker 3: Yeah? So the best place is my website, which is just lyle Hutchins dot com. That's L Y L E. H u t c h ionist dot com and then you can also check out my social media. I'm on all I'm on TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, all that stuff. And that's all Lyle Hutchins music. Okay, okay, yeah, those those are the best, so anywhere you like. I also have a mailing list on my website, so if anybody wants more regular updates for me, that's where you can find that. And I think that's about it for where people can find me.

34:30 Speaker 1: Sure sure outstanding, outstanding. So we're gonna hit this track. We're gonna play this station stayed in line. This is from the new album from Lyle Hutchins. Uh and this is your debut album, correct, yes, the first full length yeah uh so this is this is really good. So the new album flat Lander from Lyle Hutchins. And we're gonna play this and we'll let you go. Lyle, thank you so much for joining us today. We'll definitely do this again in the future as you're releasing new music and we want to keep up with everything that you're doing.

34:58 Speaker 1: So h so we really appreciate that and have a great show at Terminus.

35:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. Really great to be on here and I really appreciate you guys having me, so thanks again.

35:08 Speaker 2: You got it all right, Thanks Lyle. Take care,