Matt Connarton interviewed on The Sepsiss Show

0:00 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed this portion of the show becomes up next. Lex you gotta get up. Oh uh okay, you know what time it is up, Matt Connorton. It's time for our interview with the One, the Only mister Matt Connorton from w m n H ninety five three. Everybody welcome Matt Connorton. I'm so excited for this interview. Me and Lexie have been waiting for this all day without further or do. We're really big fans of the show and I think it's crazy because normally we are in opposite roles.

0:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, but without further.

0:43 Speaker 1: Or ad the host of wm Nash's Matt Connorton, unleash everybody.

0:49 Speaker 2: Matt Connorton a sucks.

0:53 Speaker 1: Thank you, And I was saying briefly before we got started that this isn't urgent or anything, but we have so many questions for you. I know we'll be talking about Sormy Fest later on. I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show, because we are actually real fans of your show.

1:10 Speaker 3: Thank you.

1:11 Speaker 1: You have the coolest time slot I think in New England Saturday mornings. All the bands are getting ready plugging in their amplifiers.

1:18 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the whole.

1:20 Speaker 2: And like i've for years now, there's no show.

1:24 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're outside of New England, but there is no show like yours that I've heard that's so like old fashioned where people can wake up in the morning and call in and it's interactive.

1:35 Speaker 2: It's just it's so old school.

1:37 Speaker 1: And I feel so lucky to have ninety five point three in WMNH and you as a radio show host. But everything your your past, your present, your future. I just think you got the coolest thing going on, and I think what you do is a big mosiac and a recipe to what makes New England so fucking cool to be a band.

2:00 Speaker 2: Here your show.

2:02 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thank you so much for just for doing it, and thank you. Congratulations for lasting the test of time.

2:10 Speaker 3: It's been a while. Yeah, no, thank you very much. I appreciate all that. Thank you so much. I I by the way, I'm not to drup but I should say I'm a big fan of yours as well.

2:18 Speaker 2: As you know.

2:19 Speaker 3: Jenny and I are big, big fans of Sepsis.

2:22 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of weird because we have so much in common making people upset.

2:29 Speaker 2: We have a lot of patrolls.

2:31 Speaker 1: We'll talk about we'll talk, we'll compare notes later. But another thing that that you and Jenny are a brand, man like you guys are a brand. And and like Matt Connor toon, Unleashed is such a layered onion of just like talented, you're so fucking smart, you got a great voice for radio. How just so everyone, how do we break you down?

2:54 Speaker 2: Man? Like? What like? Are you? Like?

2:56 Speaker 1: Who are we talking to today? Are we talking to Matt Corner in the radio show hosts? Are we talking about about Matt and Jenny the brand? Are we talking about activism or tough bumps? Or like, are you gonna fucking hypnotize us today on the show?

3:12 Speaker 2: Do you have many layers? I do?

3:15 Speaker 1: The thing that we have in common with you is you have a lot of layers to you man like you have big history. You were in a band before you do this music program. I know, I like Matt Connorton Unleashed. Is your your your baby, your pride, your priority or what people know?

3:33 Speaker 2: What I know from you?

3:34 Speaker 1: But but I want everybody to know who you are as an as an onion, as a layer. Can you break Matt Connorton down and tell us everything about you?

3:43 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

3:48 Speaker 3: You have a lot of different you know, sometimes I wonder if I if I would have been a lot more successful than I am at this point in my life, if I'd kind of focused on one thing. But but you know, you mentioned I I have a lot of different things is going on, and I've always kind of been that way, you know. I I do the radio show, I run IPM Nation, I have a hypnotherapy practice, I do this, I do that. Sometimes I think I like, if I had not paid any attention to the music industry, for example, and just focused on my hypnotherapy practice, maybe I'd be running this enormous you know, hypnotherapy.

4:20 Speaker 2: Practice right now. Money. I have more money. Yes, I'm always coming people.

4:27 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're in local music, Okay, okay, right right, So you're so you're a lot like us. You're you're you're still doing things for the love of doing it. It seems like you care.

4:41 Speaker 2: About a lot if I think, if you care about a lot, it's hard to just be driven on one thing, right, I think so?

4:48 Speaker 3: And you know, my dad kind of he passed away, Uh not too long ago. But something about my dad that I always really admired is right to the end, no matter how old he got, and he he was almost eighty when he passed away. But he was very passionate about music, and not like you would never catch my dad listening to oldies. He was always interested in music that was current. He lived on the seacoast, so he loved wunh because he loves He loved college college radio until the day he died. He loved college radio because he liked hearing new artists.

5:21 Speaker 3: He liked hearing new music. And he used to tell me, he said, Matt, we're in a golden age of music right now because there's so much of it. You know, because of the Internet, you have access to so much music, and so it like I kind of model myself after him in the sense that no.

5:35 Speaker 2: Matter how old he got, he still cared.

5:39 Speaker 3: He still was so deeply passionate about music, unlike most people who get stuck, you know, jeez, by the time they're what thirty, they've they've they go, oh, I've heard all the music I ever need to hear now. But but my dad, you know, the things he cared passionately about. He cared about until the day that he died. So I try to be cause I see a lot of people, you know, I'm a gen xer, I'm a middle age and I see a lot of people in my generation who, you know, at a certain point, they kind of start to, I don't know, settle in, settle down.

6:09 Speaker 2: You know, this is a discovery.

6:10 Speaker 1: Is not a necessity for survival anymore. You don't need to survive and what your friends think and your peer groups, and it doesn't feel like you're going to die if you don't fit in. So just like you know, what you listen to and how you dress and what your hair looks like is important when you're a fucking kid. Yeah, so that the motivation for discovery and appetite for discovery feels like.

6:33 Speaker 2: It's life and death.

6:35 Speaker 1: If you're not listening to the artists that your friends are, you're not in the circle.

6:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's that's very true.

6:43 Speaker 3: But you know, I'm I think I'm hopefully I'm going to end up like my dad in that sense, and that hopefully until the day I die, I'm still passionate about.

6:51 Speaker 2: You really close with your dad? Did he listen to did he listen to your program.

6:55 Speaker 3: So, oh, that's a very interesting and complicated question. My dad mus because my dad was a huge fan of the music component. Actually, my dad was a big fan of Sepsis. I don't know if you realize that. What, Yeah, I can't remember if that if this has ever come up on the show when we've had you on my show, but yeah, my dad was a big fan.

7:15 Speaker 2: My dad.

7:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he never yeah, he never got to see a live or anything, but he was used very much a fan. I remember what we would talk about because my personal favorite Sepsis song is Eyes of Empathy, and I remember talking to my dad about it and he goes He's like, yeah, that's my favorite too, and I'm like, wait, what really, So yeah.

7:32 Speaker 2: He was really he was really into you.

7:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, But my dad, So my dad was very always, very encouraging and very enthusiastic about that aspect of what I do because he loved new music, so he loved that I was doing that. Where it gets complicated is when my show was on weekday afternoons, when I was an afternoon drive, there was also a heavy political component to the show.

7:57 Speaker 2: You know, like very often typical show might.

7:58 Speaker 3: Do politics the first because I was weeked afternoons four to six, so the first hour might be politics, the second hour the musical guest. Kind of like that. The politics part became a problem for my dad and I because he got and this is disappointing to say, but you know, I talk about him, you know, the good and the bad. Yeah, he got. He got to be pretty maga over the last decade or so of his life, inexplicably because growing up he was always a liberal, which is how I turned out the way i'm. I'm the woke liberal that I am today because of my dad.

8:30 Speaker 3: But then he turned into this, He turned into this other dude. Like a lot of people, that's happened in a lot of families. Though you hear people all the time, Oh my parents, they got fucking weird. I don't know what happened to them, but they're not the same people they used to.

8:42 Speaker 1: Principal shift in like your taste buds, you know, I really yeah, really yeah, the people's lens and depending on what we're consuming and and like our health and it's I can understand how many families are challenged in not being torn apart over over conversations that have to measure human decency. That's tough, man, Yeah, that's tough. But and I'm sorry about your loss. But he seems you seem like a big fan of him too, and he seems like a big fan of you too well.

9:21 Speaker 3: So much so much of who I am is a direct result of him.

9:26 Speaker 2: You know.

9:26 Speaker 3: My passion for music is very much a direct uh directly came from him, and that continuing passion. No matter how old I get, I still want to hear new stuff. I still want to explore new music and help promote new music. The politics, my passion for politics came from him too, ironically enough, It's just that we.

9:44 Speaker 2: Started, you flawless. Guys still loved each other though, Yeah, of course, of course.

9:51 Speaker 3: But when I was a kid, he was a he was a Democrat, and his best friend was a Republican, and he and his best friend would have all these conversations and I would sit there and just listen, and I became fascinated by it. And and of course my dad was a Democrat, so that's you know, I grew up with, you know, a lot of those same values and all of that, you know, and then he eventually shifted. But but but that that came from him too. My so my passion for both music and politics really came from from growing up with my dad.

10:17 Speaker 1: You know this, this there is you can't really have the music industry. You can have like you can have music like vibration and the way that Native Americans or Aborigines or indigenous people or people in the past may have celebrated music for its spiritual or vibrational or healing qualities or storytelling.

10:39 Speaker 2: But to have the.

10:40 Speaker 1: Capitalist institution of the music industry, you really do need politics. You need to understand the language of the law because of because of legislation and the laws that that determine, measuring the details of of uh free speech, and and of course advertising and marketing and selling things. That's very those are all very very political ideas. And when it's funny, when we talk to a lot of musicians, they'll say keep politics out of you know, music, or it'd be nice if musicians just didn't talk to politics, talk about politics at all.

11:21 Speaker 1: And it's and it's like, wow, you know a lot of musicians, I don't think they realized their their appetite for wanting to be in the music business or the music industry really has a lot to do with accounting.

11:37 Speaker 2: And banking and.

11:40 Speaker 1: The policies and the politics that that are baked into capitalism and buying and selling and ROI and I p O S and.

11:54 Speaker 2: So they are.

11:54 Speaker 1: You know, they like to keep the in a world of metrics and demographic because they people want to keep these things separate. At the same time, I'm gonna let Lexi fire away because she wrote down some questions for you.

12:06 Speaker 2: I know she wants to.

12:08 Speaker 4: All Right, So you mentioned being in a band and a bass player. Yes, tell us a little bit more of your experience.

12:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, we wanted to get nosy because we've been thinking about this for a while.

12:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, thank you.

12:22 Speaker 3: So I've played in a bunch of bands and I am a bass player. I'm not particularly flashy. I'm very very It's funny because.

12:30 Speaker 2: You should have been filling in for us all season. I didn't.

12:34 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. I wouldn't have nailed you down, but geez, a couple of gigs at least, right.

12:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while for me, that's for sure. It's been a long time since I haven't picked up my bass. But yeah, I played in a bunch of bands, again, nothing flashy. I don't know if you guys, if you know Aaron Billidoh, but he's like one of the best bass players I know, and he was on my show recently. He does a solo thing where he just plays his bass with some backing tracks.

12:56 Speaker 2: I'd bet good if you're a big soloist.

12:59 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I just watch his fingers the whole time because I'm just But I could never do I mean I could, but I'd have to really dedicate myself. I could never do what he does, you know. But yeah, but I played a bunch of different bands. I played in a kind of a punk band, I played it. I played in a couple of metal bands. I played in a band called Project Hybrid, which was like this sort of a hip hop project but very sort of experimental, and I played bass in that. We did a lot of improvising Chemical Distance, which was a really weird project.

13:32 Speaker 1: So I have to have a very You have to have a lot of room for variety in your library if you're going to host a music show.

13:41 Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

13:42 Speaker 1: I think people think a lot of times that we're being generic when we're like, oh, we love to support local musicians because it sounds really good in a Facebook post. You know, everybody support local, but like for us, it's no gimmick. We really do and even like horrible music, like we love like unmixed music or like yeahs I do too, Actually I do, actually really like it. We're big fans of like underground rap and like music from the city and yeah yeah yeah all over the world. Yeah, I'm with populous stuff.

14:12 Speaker 1: So when under underground rap local, we really mean that. Shit, man, we really have fun with the discovery underground wraps rap. How did you get involved with ninety five point three? Like, what's the relationship? I'm just curious.

14:26 Speaker 3: So that came about because so the show Matt Connors and Unleashed actually started it originally as a podcast in the summer of twenty eleven. But wow, yeah it goes yeah but bowing.

14:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, because people can't most people can't do anything for eleven minutes. Let you know, yeah, let alone ten years.

14:52 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Yeah.

14:54 Speaker 3: But so you may or may not know this, but WMNH is owned by Manchester Public Television and I had been involved in some of the local television programming at Manchester Public Television for a long time. So I kind of already knew the people. So when WMNH got up and running, which was in was it was either twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen when it finally got on the air, because it's owned by Manchester Public Television, I already knew some of the people involved. So you know, they got the first couple of shows launched, and then they offered me the opportunity to bring Oh because I was also doing a TV version on local channel twenty three here at the time, it was Channel twenty three you're in Manchester of my show in edition of the podcast.

15:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, So then.

15:43 Speaker 3: They offered me the opportunity to bring the show to radio and put me in afternoon drive weekdays four to six. The caveat being I had to give up.

15:51 Speaker 2: The TV show.

15:52 Speaker 3: They didn't want me doing both they because they wanted a clear delineation. But yeah, afternoon drive hell yeah so so but that's how that came about. In April of twenty seventeen, that's when the podcast became a radio show.

16:06 Speaker 2: Wow.

16:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, well just just just quick, where where can everybody you know?

16:10 Speaker 2: I'm I've I've realized I've really slutted.

16:13 Speaker 1: Out now, but I will but like I watch you on Facebook, I don't even like admitting that you know any meaning, but you know, it's just so easy. We get we do our coffee and Matt Connerton, you get to Facebook going we're on our way to the show.

16:26 Speaker 2: What are all the places people can find you? Though? Just so we know and we got that covered.

16:30 Speaker 3: Easiest thing to do if you just go to my website Matt connorton dot com and if you go to the Unleashed page or go to the radio and podcast page. That's that's the easiest way. All the links are there. Obviously if you're local in Manchester, New Hampshire and surrounding areas, you can hear us. You can hear the show at ninety five point three FM.

16:47 Speaker 1: But so cool man everywhere else being in a Manchester band and they're just being anything like that. They're being an existing radio station that plays local bands in our own in town. It's just a cool thing to be alive and have that still happening at the same time as all of this other stuff is happening.

17:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's become a rare thing.

17:13 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, like with your your activism of course, like your personal lives. Everything you and Jen got going on? Is that hard to Is that hard to organize?

17:26 Speaker 2: Is that hard? Is that hard to separate?

17:28 Speaker 1: Is it hard to keep the shows and the what she's got going on, She's got a lot of powerful things going on. I almost asked both of y'all to come on and maybe that something we could do in the future.

17:38 Speaker 3: You should, Well, what I would suggest is having her on separately because she's she's got a lot going on to. I'm very proud of her. She's doing so much great work.

17:46 Speaker 2: She's on substack now. Oh good good.

17:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like she's kind of stepped away from the show from Matt Connor to Unleashed just because I mean, you might see her, you see her, hear her on a random Saturday morning with me, but for sure. But she's got so much going on with all the activism. I'll plug her website Jencoffee dot com.

18:04 Speaker 2: Please. I love what you've got going on to girls love it too.

18:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, huge fan of I love what she's doing.

18:14 Speaker 2: That's such a huge inspiration.

18:16 Speaker 1: That's why you know, you guys are both kicking ass, you know, on different fronts, but you're you're very much part of the same organism, And I was just wondering if that's hard to organize, because you know, could we do the podcast and me and let's.

18:32 Speaker 2: You have a little bit of a flare.

18:35 Speaker 1: And appetite for like some activism and sharing stories, but that's that's we don't speak for all of the band members, and and the podcast in my opinion isn't every isn't all the band members opinion and right, all of that, But but I just was wondering how you organize that.

18:54 Speaker 3: Life is very busy, but I mean, but but the things that we're doing at this point, because again she's kind of stepped away from the show at so you know, we're each kind of organizing our own worlds which exists together but also separate if we ever get.

19:08 Speaker 2: In trouble, like it's hard to talk.

19:10 Speaker 1: We were looking the other day and I was like, I was like, if there's any other like podcasts in New England or like conversation spaces that get a lot of troublemakers that might rival Sepsis, I said, the only people that could rival us that have real life, kinetic physical trolls might be Matt Connerton. I think we got to beat digitally. But but in the past. I've seen some of your feuds are a little bit more kinetic, yeah, than ours have been.

19:42 Speaker 2: But it's tough to say.

19:43 Speaker 1: How do you do you ever get in trouble for being People are always asking us do we get in trouble for being outspoken?

19:51 Speaker 2: And is it worth it?

19:52 Speaker 1: And I'm always reminding people we would never do what we're doing if it wasn't worth it. We weren't having a blast with it. But how do you how do you feel everybody's different.

20:03 Speaker 3: Well in terms of getting in trouble for being outspoken, as as you know, because as I refer to, I used to do afternoon Drive ATU W M and H weekdays four to six, with a heavy political component, and then a couple of years ago, I became a Saturday morning host with no politics. So yes, you can there there can be repercussions. So now that's that's why you never hear any you know, I mean, you might hear dribs and drabs if something comes up during a conversation on my show as I'm interviewing a musical guest, but you don't hear you don't hear overtly politics on my show anymore.

20:40 Speaker 3: And That's why anything like that that I want to do, you know, we'll do it on a separate podcast version of the show, but on WMNH there is without going into details, there is a reason that I used to be an afternoon drive host and then I went to weekends. It all worked out for the best in a lot of ways, but there is a reason that happened.

20:59 Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes everything Sometimes everything needs to be at it in its proper place for its time, in its inventory.

21:11 Speaker 3: And I trust the universe with it.

21:13 Speaker 2: No is so Welsh.

21:15 Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that something I'm learning to do.

21:20 Speaker 1: It's very hard to let things go it is. We're glad that you shifted towards the focus of music. What is some of the most important things that you've learned from interviewing musicians?

21:39 Speaker 3: I I just everybody's everybody's so different. I love I love learning what someone's creative process is. I'm kind of a nerd that way.

21:48 Speaker 2: Yep.

21:49 Speaker 3: That's why I'll ask questions like who writes the songs in your band? How do you write them? Who comes up with the ideas, who who comes up with the riffs, who comes up with the lyrics, et cetera. I love learning.

21:58 Speaker 2: About a lot of band fights.

22:00 Speaker 1: When people leave they must go back to their band rooms, and like I just sort that out.

22:05 Speaker 3: I hope, So that would be that's that's fun to think about. But but yeah, I just I love talking and not just musicians too. I mean, you know, we've had actors and comedians and authors and you know, other creative people on the show too, But it's it's very obviously, very heavily focused on music. But I just love talking to creative people about how they create, what drives them to create. I also love talking to like older artists, like I don't know if you know John Poussett Dart kind of a bit of a legend, the Pussett Dart band from the seventies.

22:35 Speaker 3: But whenever he's playing in Manchester, we have him on the show because he's still releasing He's in his seventies but he's still releasing new music and I love talking to him.

22:44 Speaker 2: That's people.

22:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like when you determine success, of course, there are those there are all those little other like you know, trophies and you know, and and symbols of success and and momentos and my isle stones.

23:01 Speaker 2: But like if you're like the big goal, Like one of our big goals.

23:04 Speaker 1: Is to continue to do it. Like some guys like that are like, that's my fucking hero. Yeah yeah, I need to tap in.

23:13 Speaker 3: Yeah so so even even people who've been doing it for decades. You know what, I want to know what keeps them going. And he likes it because I can tell because he's coming on my show and instead of me sitting there asking him questions about the Pousett Dart Band and everything he did when he was in his twenties, I'm like, tell me about the music you're making now, which most interviewers won't do that they want to hear, they want to hear the old stories and whatnot. I want to know about what you're doing now.

23:36 Speaker 2: Not generic. No, no, you don't do. You don't do.

23:39 Speaker 1: I've heard you pepper some of those things in but you don't have generic interviews at all.

23:44 Speaker 3: Thank you.

23:45 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I really love that about your show.

23:49 Speaker 3: Thank you. I try I try to do something different.

23:52 Speaker 4: What when Matt Connorton Unleashed or any of your like radio shows, would you guys ever do like your own like music festival, like a vent or something with the people that you've brought onto the show.

24:03 Speaker 2: That's interesting.

24:05 Speaker 3: We've never really tried to organize something like that. I think that's why we like, you know, we like being a part of something like Swarmy Fest because inevitably, you know, Swarmy Fest has a lineup where it's either you know, some of the bands have been on the show, some of the bands will be on the show in the future. Some of the bands might be on the show that weekend, you know.

24:23 Speaker 1: Really putting in that discovery thing we were talking about it, Yeah, trying to motivate people to it.

24:28 Speaker 2: That's why we always have the new bands.

24:30 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely so. But we've never I used to do a lot of promotion. But before back before I even started Matt Connerton Unleashed with IPM Nation, I used to promote a lot of shows. It's a lot I don't have to tell you, you know, with Swarmy Fest, it's a lot of work.

24:52 Speaker 2: It really is. I'm glad somebody else said it.

24:56 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, it's a lot of work. Is I've gotta I've got to get into this because I don't want to run out of time before we touch on it. But one of the things you do is hypnotizing people, right, yes, I mean that is an interesting field. Now I gotta tell I got to make a confession, like I'd have a hard time, you know, hypnotizing or having the privilege to hypnotize people, because like I'm a pervert and you can.

25:29 Speaker 4: They are convinced of being like like any kinky thoughts.

25:33 Speaker 1: Or crimes, like yeah, like anybody confessed to any strange kinks or like we have no right?

25:40 Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

25:41 Speaker 2: Or is that confidential? Might be like a doctor dentist.

25:46 Speaker 3: Well there there is hippa, but that would only apply to specific people. No, So I wish, I wish I had a more fun answer to this question. But the truth, the truth is not that interesting. But I'll tell you the truth. It's not like what people think. It's not like what you see in movies and television. It's not in other words, it's not mind control. So if I hypnotize you, I don't put you into a trance. And my mind went fucking dark. I mean yeah, no, I was like, you know, I can't some things. You got to have some self discipline.

26:18 Speaker 3: And I'm like the world made me where I'm not.

26:21 Speaker 2: Allowed or have the ability to hypnotize people.

26:24 Speaker 1: Because I'd be you know, robbing banks and doing all kinds of stuff.

26:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't make anyone do anything.

26:30 Speaker 3: Answer. Well, the truth is if I if I take you into a state of hypnosis, you're You're in control the entire time. I'm just guiding you through the process, and you can wake up from it any time you want to. If I say something to you like, hey, you know, you might find that you want to rob a bank and then bring me all the money. Kinky work wouldn't work.

26:50 Speaker 1: No, No, we had all kinds of facts. What's the what without too much?

27:00 Speaker 2: Is there?

27:00 Speaker 1: Is it anything wild or truly interesting that's happened during a session that is worth sharing? Like because anybody I keep thinking of people ripping their pants off and running.

27:11 Speaker 2: I don't know know.

27:14 Speaker 1: No, but anybody channeled Hendrix or a dead uncle.

27:20 Speaker 2: No.

27:20 Speaker 3: Well, so I have the closest thing to that is I have done some past life regression sessions. I am certified in that, and those are those get pretty interesting. When people, I mean, you know, whether you believe in it or not, you know, I mean, it's a it's an experience. It's the person experiencing it. They believe it's happening, and they will tell me some pretty interesting things. Uh, you know that they're seeing when they when they in their.

27:49 Speaker 2: Mind, you can hypnotize.

27:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean those are fun. I like past life regression sessions. Those are the most interesting.

27:57 Speaker 2: But you've got the lex you get the last question.

28:00 Speaker 4: With that, what's one thing that radio and podcast hosts can do differently or just do in general?

28:13 Speaker 2: Yeah?

28:13 Speaker 4: What do we miss in the years to come to keep people listening to the radio and being interested these types of media outlets.

28:22 Speaker 3: That's an excellent question because it's becoming harder and harder because there's so much.

28:27 Speaker 2: There's so much.

28:29 Speaker 3: Everybody everybody has a podcast now and anyone listening or watching this, if you don't have a podcast, you will someday, someday before you die, you'll have a podcast.

28:38 Speaker 2: So it's it's very, very difficult.

28:41 Speaker 3: The one thing that I tell everybody is just be yourself and don't overthink it, and do the kind of show that you think would be interesting to do. You know, don't don't try to copy anybody else, don't try to model model yourself after anybody else. Just just like with music, you know, with music, you shouldn't be chasing trends, right, you should do the kind of music that you want to do, and that's what you're you're most likely to succeed with, is something that you're excited about creating.

29:06 Speaker 2: You know.

29:07 Speaker 3: I always give the example, what if Kurt Cobain had said, you know what, hair metal is really popular still, maybe Nirvana should be a hair metal band, you know, think about think about how different things might might have been if he had chosen that. So same thing with podcasting. Do the kind of show that you want to do and be yourself because that's the only way you can do something that is truly unique, because there's only one of you. So just be you and do the show that you most want to do.

29:35 Speaker 4: I love that.

29:37 Speaker 1: Matt Connor did w m n H ninety five point three. Don't miss out, don't be crazy and miss out on one of the best shows Saturday mornings live in New England. You can catch it on Facebook. You can go to Matt connorton dot com. Or you could do like I like I do and just watch on Facebook.

30:02 Speaker 4: Yeah.

30:02 Speaker 2: I love watching on Facebook because we can we can type you. That's true. I liked we like to interact.

30:09 Speaker 3: I do I do see you in the chat room. I don't always get a chance to shout you out because well because sometimes to be honest with you, depending on what's going on, yea, sometimes I just forget to look at you.

30:18 Speaker 1: You're you're busy, and a lot of people commenting right now that we're ignoring. We appreciate you so much for spending some time with us. We'll see you in a month or so at for me Fest. We appreciate you.

30:32 Speaker 2: Taking out the time to be with us today on the STEPSID Show.

30:35 Speaker 3: Thank you, love you guys, Thank you so much.

30:38 Speaker 2: We love you too. Man, Tell Jemmy said hi and we'll talk to you next time.

30:42 Speaker 3: Absolutely