Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-24-26 hour 2

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0:45 Speaker 3: A scarped rat.

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0:53 Speaker 4: The freezing ride to me, she's.

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1:00 Speaker 1: Champlas did we really.

1:05 Speaker 2: Only good?

1:08 Speaker 6: Everybody's our words, body shops truck or different trees, and everybody's.

1:15 Speaker 7: Our worst chop troup like the change in up the.

1:18 Speaker 6: Seas, and everybody's our drives on job troup for different trees, and.

1:26 Speaker 7: Everybody's our drugs.

1:29 Speaker 6: Like the changing of the season.

1:44 Speaker 1: He's got a good job, no complaints.

1:50 Speaker 8: That's his umber lace up in the mooring rain.

1:56 Speaker 2: He has a warm room over it's bad.

2:02 Speaker 3: And at the weekend.

2:05 Speaker 6: That's ourbis had.

2:08 Speaker 7: Everybody's our drives, body shops.

2:11 Speaker 6: Rock for different trees, and everybody's our worse bottage ance

2:17 Speaker 6: of like cold change in at the seas, and everybody's

2:21 Speaker 6: our dives boots up for different trees, and everybody's our wives.

2:29 Speaker 3: Like to change in other season.

2:31 Speaker 7: But whoa hey, hey, hey, everybody's on dust.

3:08 Speaker 6: Everybody's on drest, everybody's on dress, everybody's on dust.

3:17 Speaker 5: She's in of that.

3:20 Speaker 1: She can't get away.

3:23 Speaker 2: She's don't want to way.

3:26 Speaker 8: What you say, she can't leave the children, but she

3:32 Speaker 8: never wrote.

3:35 Speaker 7: She goes to the doctors to get her dress.

3:41 Speaker 1: Everybody's on durst body shot.

3:43 Speaker 6: Traps are different trees, and everybody's on dres bob shot

3:50 Speaker 6: like a drinking of the season. Everybody's on nurse, body shot,

3:55 Speaker 6: trot or different trees.

3:59 Speaker 1: Everybody.

4:00 Speaker 7: It's ants, like.

4:02 Speaker 2: The changing of the seasons.

4:29 Speaker 6: Everybody's on dirts short, everybody is on dirt. S. Everybody's

4:36 Speaker 6: on dirt. Everybody's on dirt, sarty, everybody's on the everybody's

4:45 Speaker 6: on dirt. Everybody's on dirt. Everybody's drugs. Everybody's all dry.

4:55 Speaker 6: Is a different trees and everybody all drugs, like the

5:02 Speaker 6: changing up the seas. Dries all different trees.

5:11 Speaker 9: Then we love son drugs.

5:14 Speaker 6: Like the changing up the seasons.

5:22 Speaker 10: I love it.

5:22 Speaker 4: I just wanted to let it fade out at the end.

5:24 Speaker 4: There that little effect that is everybody's on drugs. The

5:26 Speaker 4: band is the Puncturess. And we have entered our number

5:29 Speaker 4: three Newmarrow Trace of Matt Connerton unleashed, and we are

5:31 Speaker 4: live from the studios of w m n H ninety

5:34 Speaker 4: five point three FM. Inglorious but very very cold Manchester,

5:37 Speaker 4: New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere.

5:39 Speaker 4: Go to Matt connorton dot com, slash live and today

5:43 Speaker 4: is for you live listeners. January twenty four, twenty twenty six,

5:46 Speaker 4: and we have joining us from the Puncturists. Let me

5:49 Speaker 4: get that volume up here. We've got Dale Farrow, who

5:52 Speaker 4: is the the bass player in the band.

5:53 Speaker 11: Hello, Dale, Hi, Matt, can you hear me? Okay? Absolutely?

5:57 Speaker 11: You sound great? Yeah, absolutely, welcome. I'm excited to talk

6:01 Speaker 11: to you. By the way.

6:02 Speaker 4: You know, you are a fellow bass player, so I

6:04 Speaker 4: was like talking to another bass player. And I love

6:09 Speaker 4: I love the album. I'm not all right you Yeah,

6:12 Speaker 4: really really good. I listen to the whole thing. That's

6:14 Speaker 4: that's probably my favorite track, which is why I chose

6:17 Speaker 4: it to open the segment. But yeah, great, great stuff.

6:21 Speaker 11: Now where are you from? Dale? Where's the band from?

6:25 Speaker 12: We're based in northern England. Pat Gale Pats the guitarist

6:31 Speaker 12: Scales this singer live in a place called Barnsley, which

6:34 Speaker 12: is just south of Leeds in West Yorkshire. I live

6:37 Speaker 12: in East Yorkshire and the drummer Martin lives on the

6:41 Speaker 12: East Coast, a place called Grimsby. We're all sort of

6:45 Speaker 12: within an hour and a half of each other, so yeah, Nordon, England.

6:50 Speaker 11: Really so you're you're a little bit scattered, but not

6:52 Speaker 11: not too much.

6:54 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, poor old Martin as a as a

6:57 Speaker 12: longer drive to rehearsal than the rest of us. But yeah,

7:00 Speaker 12: but yeah, yeah, we're not all in one town or

7:03 Speaker 12: anything like that. But yeah, gotcha, gotcha. Now, the Puncturists

7:07 Speaker 12: has been around, what does it since twenty two?

7:10 Speaker 11: Is that correct? Yeah?

7:13 Speaker 12: I think yes, it's just sort of post COVID. The

7:17 Speaker 12: Pat was previously in a ban call system of Hate

7:21 Speaker 12: and a couple of the members, him and the drummer

7:25 Speaker 12: decided they were going to do something slightly different and

7:28 Speaker 12: formed the Puncturists.

7:29 Speaker 11: Okay, and.

7:33 Speaker 12: The drummer Karl was also the singer, but he left

7:37 Speaker 12: and Pat persuaded Gail to come in and sing as

7:42 Speaker 12: lead singer. And this was the first band she'd ever

7:45 Speaker 12: played in and never sang with, so that was quite

7:48 Speaker 12: quite something for her. And I joined where I mean now,

7:53 Speaker 12: I joined in twenty three on the base and Martin

7:58 Speaker 12: joined us nearly two years ago. So we in the

8:01 Speaker 12: current format we've been going nearly two years. So yeah, okay, so.

8:06 Speaker 4: It sounds like there's been some some lineup changes over

8:08 Speaker 4: the you know, over a relatively short period of time.

8:11 Speaker 4: Like I said, of the bands have been around for

8:12 Speaker 4: a few years, but it sounds like it it took

8:14 Speaker 4: a while for this, this current lineup to sort of coalesces.

8:18 Speaker 12: That correct, That's right, Yeah, I mean it with a

8:21 Speaker 12: lot of bands, you get that when they first start,

8:23 Speaker 12: you sort of have to settle in and everyone sort

8:26 Speaker 12: of gets to know what's what. But we we had issues.

8:29 Speaker 12: We were a little bit spinal tapped with drummers.

8:31 Speaker 11: For a while.

8:34 Speaker 12: Not we didn't actually kill.

8:35 Speaker 11: Any of I was gonna say, I hope nobody blew

8:37 Speaker 11: up or anything.

8:39 Speaker 12: But but we we went through a few until we've

8:42 Speaker 12: we've we think we've got the right guy on the

8:45 Speaker 12: drum stool now. So and like I say, we've been

8:49 Speaker 12: nearly two years, we've been in this format and the

8:52 Speaker 12: album that you've got there, I'm not all right, is

8:54 Speaker 12: the the sort of the the outcome of our first

8:58 Speaker 12: sort of period together as a band. So yeah, and

9:03 Speaker 12: we're we're all very proud of it as well.

9:06 Speaker 4: In terms of finding Martin to play drums. I'm just

9:09 Speaker 4: curious because this is a subject that comes up a

9:12 Speaker 4: lot on the show, at least with the guests that

9:14 Speaker 4: we have here in America. It seems like, I don't

9:17 Speaker 4: know if it's the same there, but it seems like

9:19 Speaker 4: here every drummer is in like ten different bands because

9:22 Speaker 4: it's so hard to find an actual drummer.

9:25 Speaker 11: And I have theories about why that is.

9:27 Speaker 4: My theory is that you know, when you're growing up

9:29 Speaker 4: and you decide you want to play a musical instrument,

9:31 Speaker 4: we have to have the conversation with your parents about well,

9:33 Speaker 4: I think I want to play drums, you know that,

9:36 Speaker 4: and maybe the tuba or the two that they're going

9:38 Speaker 4: to try to talk you out of because they don't

9:40 Speaker 4: want all that noise in their house. But I mean,

9:42 Speaker 4: is that is that a challenge there too? Is it

9:43 Speaker 4: hard to find a drummer?

9:45 Speaker 12: It is, Yes, to find the right drummer has been

9:51 Speaker 12: quite difficult. I mean drummers, Like you say, drummers are

9:56 Speaker 12: a rare breed, and they're an old breed as well.

10:01 Speaker 12: You have to have one or two screws slightly lose

10:04 Speaker 12: to want to do it. And I think, and but yeah,

10:08 Speaker 12: it's difficult to get the right person at the right time, because,

10:12 Speaker 12: like you say, so many people. When we were looking

10:15 Speaker 12: and we got Martin, we had so many people applying

10:18 Speaker 12: and they said, well, I also play in you know,

10:20 Speaker 12: X y Z bands, and you know, you know, I

10:23 Speaker 12: might not necessarily be available all the time. But fortunately

10:26 Speaker 12: for us, Martin was coming back from a break from drumming.

10:31 Speaker 12: He played for a long time. He's very experienced drummer,

10:35 Speaker 12: but hadn't actually played for sort of seven or eight years,

10:38 Speaker 12: maybe a little bit longer, and had been sort of

10:41 Speaker 12: concentrating on sort of work and real life and things

10:45 Speaker 12: like that that do get in the way. And he

10:49 Speaker 12: decided that he was going to give it one more go.

10:51 Speaker 12: He'd previously been playing oddly in a in a discos

10:56 Speaker 12: covers band, you know, like a party band, and the

11:00 Speaker 12: clips that he sent us were stuff, you know, sort

11:03 Speaker 12: of from that band, but actually the skills and chops

11:08 Speaker 12: you need to play that sort of stuff, you know,

11:12 Speaker 12: you know, are quite something, and he, you know, he

11:15 Speaker 12: impressed us. And you know, as soon as I saw

11:17 Speaker 12: what he'd sent us stuff on YouTube, I said to Pat,

11:20 Speaker 12: We've got to get this guy in and have a

11:22 Speaker 12: you know, get him in and have a proper rehearsal

11:26 Speaker 12: with him, see how we get on. And we clicked

11:29 Speaker 12: straight away, and he you know, he's he that wasn't

11:31 Speaker 12: his type of music he's in. He's a lot more

11:34 Speaker 12: sort of rock and sort of punky type background, even

11:38 Speaker 12: though he hadn't played in a band like hours before

11:42 Speaker 12: or not for Donkeys' years. But but you know, he

11:45 Speaker 12: really has fitted in well. And it helps particularly. I mean,

11:49 Speaker 12: you as a bass player will know that. You know,

11:50 Speaker 12: we we have to keep our ears and eyes on

11:54 Speaker 12: the drummer at all times. Were the people who hold

11:56 Speaker 12: it all together? Yeah, not obviously not of sound like

12:01 Speaker 12: you know that with the backbone, but we are.

12:03 Speaker 11: We are. Bass players are at the back absolutely.

12:07 Speaker 12: Taris and singers. You know we'd be lost without us.

12:10 Speaker 12: But but yeah, it's nice to actually be on stage

12:13 Speaker 12: without having to worry about what's going on behind me

12:16 Speaker 12: right right, And and he enables, you know, he enables

12:20 Speaker 12: you to sort of relax into into a gig and

12:24 Speaker 12: and you know, feel confident that everything's going to be okay,

12:29 Speaker 12: whereas occasionally before that wasn't the case.

12:33 Speaker 4: Right right now, I'm not alright. The album on Dead

12:37 Speaker 4: Swan Records, which is is this a label that the

12:39 Speaker 4: puncturists created specifically for the puncturists Dead Swine Records.

12:44 Speaker 12: It is, yes, yeah, it's it's not the first. We

12:48 Speaker 12: got a few releases. We've got a live album and

12:52 Speaker 12: that was a Yeah, there's a live album that came

12:55 Speaker 12: out just about fifteen months ago which is called Fox.

13:00 Speaker 12: There's a newt which was recorded a pub in Leads

13:03 Speaker 12: called the Fox and Newt. And there's also an EP

13:09 Speaker 12: with about six or seven songs which the original lineup did.

13:14 Speaker 12: So that was before Gail started to sing, and I

13:17 Speaker 12: still want to one or two of the songs on

13:20 Speaker 12: that that we still do, although differently. But so yeah,

13:24 Speaker 12: there's there's a there's a few things on Dead Swan Records.

13:27 Speaker 12: If people want to look up Dead Swan Records on

13:29 Speaker 12: bang camp they can, but yeah, that's our that's our label.

13:34 Speaker 4: So yeah, Now, the songs that you did before Gale

13:37 Speaker 4: was was the lead singer, do those songs continue, like

13:40 Speaker 4: does Gale sing them in the new or did you

13:43 Speaker 4: leave those songs behind.

13:44 Speaker 12: Or mostly but there's there are a couple that we do,

13:49 Speaker 12: two or three that we've adapted for for Gael and

13:54 Speaker 12: and she's put her own stamp on them.

13:56 Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, that's really so yeah.

13:59 Speaker 12: So you know, but.

14:02 Speaker 13: We are.

14:04 Speaker 12: Increasingly going forward with the songs like you've heard on

14:08 Speaker 12: the album, like you've just heard with Everybody's on drugs,

14:11 Speaker 12: and we're currently in a writing phase of for new

14:16 Speaker 12: songs going forward as well.

14:18 Speaker 11: Do the songs come quickly?

14:19 Speaker 4: I'm curious because there's there's kind of an immediacy to

14:22 Speaker 4: the songs, and maybe it's because it's got that sort

14:24 Speaker 4: of that DIY garage band vibe, but i mean, do

14:27 Speaker 4: the do the songs come together pretty quickly?

14:29 Speaker 1: Do you all?

14:30 Speaker 4: Do you all kind of write together? Do you all

14:32 Speaker 4: gm and stuff together and see what happens? Or what's

14:34 Speaker 4: the songwriting process.

14:35 Speaker 11: Like in the band?

14:37 Speaker 12: Mostly it's part that comes up with the original ideas.

14:41 Speaker 12: And he quite often well sort of he's quite prolific

14:46 Speaker 12: in what he brings, you know, brings to the table.

14:48 Speaker 12: And I'll get sometimes I'll have two or three things

14:51 Speaker 12: up here in my in books in a week and

14:54 Speaker 12: he says, oh, what do you think to this? And

14:55 Speaker 12: what do you think to that? And and then I'll

14:58 Speaker 12: have a listen and s suggest you know, different arrangements

15:02 Speaker 12: or maybe stick a different you know, put a middle

15:05 Speaker 12: eight in here, or we'll change the the intro, or

15:09 Speaker 12: we'll we'll you know, do something about it. I mean,

15:11 Speaker 12: others we just sit there and say, now they ain't

15:14 Speaker 12: gonna work for us. But but but because he comes, Yeah,

15:18 Speaker 12: there's so many ideas.

15:20 Speaker 11: We work with that.

15:21 Speaker 12: And then once the two of us have sort of

15:24 Speaker 12: come up with, you know, we've okay those sorts of things,

15:27 Speaker 12: we'll then take them, you know, to rehearsal and get

15:31 Speaker 12: them going. I've written a couple that were just me

15:37 Speaker 12: on the album, but it's mainly part.

15:39 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and then I'm curious too about you know,

15:44 Speaker 4: the songs are kind of funny, as some of them are.

15:48 Speaker 4: I mean, is that is that an important element to

15:51 Speaker 4: you to have in the band, like you know, everybody's

15:53 Speaker 4: on drugs? Or there's another song that I'm going to

15:55 Speaker 4: play at the end of the segment that is my

15:57 Speaker 4: personal favorite from the album because it's as a musician,

16:01 Speaker 4: it's very relatable.

16:02 Speaker 11: They don't pay support bands, which I absolutely.

16:06 Speaker 4: Love that song, you know, and I'm listening to I

16:09 Speaker 4: don't play anymore, but I used to play in a

16:10 Speaker 4: lot of bands and it's like, yep, I get it.

16:13 Speaker 12: Yeah that that that you know that that the lyrics

16:16 Speaker 12: to that do come from you know, hard experience.

16:20 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.

16:21 Speaker 4: Is that it like an important element to you guys

16:23 Speaker 4: to have you know, to have some humor and there's

16:25 Speaker 4: you know, there's sort of that, right humor in a

16:26 Speaker 4: lot of these songs. Is that Is that something you

16:29 Speaker 4: do consciously in terms of how you approach it or

16:31 Speaker 4: does that just come out organically?

16:34 Speaker 12: I think it comes out organically because because that's just

16:37 Speaker 12: what we are. But you know, particularly you know, they

16:41 Speaker 12: say Pat sort of writes a lot of the lyrics

16:46 Speaker 12: and the things that I think it helps to get

16:51 Speaker 12: your message across or even just the the meaning of

16:57 Speaker 12: the song across if you can also make people smile,

16:59 Speaker 12: because that's one of the things that makes things memorable

17:02 Speaker 12: apart from just a catchy chorus, is actually something that

17:06 Speaker 12: makes you chuckle or makes you think, oh, I wasn't

17:09 Speaker 12: expecting that, you know then. And I think that's one

17:12 Speaker 12: of the things that gives us a little bit of

17:15 Speaker 12: an edge and why people have liked a lot of

17:18 Speaker 12: the material. A lot of the songs on the album,

17:21 Speaker 12: like you say, have got that little bit of sort

17:25 Speaker 12: of sideways look or a little Winke to camera type thing,

17:29 Speaker 12: isn't it. So so yeah, we do that, but I

17:32 Speaker 12: mean there are others that are out and out, you know,

17:37 Speaker 12: not fun not laughs, but you know, we want to

17:40 Speaker 12: try and get across, but hopefully it's still enjoyable.

17:43 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but it's not.

17:46 Speaker 12: You know, we don't deliberately go out of our way

17:48 Speaker 12: to make things sort of comedic, but there's no harm

17:51 Speaker 12: in there being a little bit of humor and a

17:53 Speaker 12: little bit of a rhinous to it.

17:57 Speaker 4: So yeah, I like to use the Sexpert as an

18:00 Speaker 4: example of doing that really well, you know, like you know,

18:03 Speaker 4: here's this band who you know, they weren't necessarily trying

18:06 Speaker 4: to be funny, but you know, you listen to a

18:08 Speaker 4: song like God Save the Queen and you can't help

18:10 Speaker 4: but laugh, you know what I mean?

18:13 Speaker 12: Well, yeah, because there are there are you know, there

18:16 Speaker 12: are more than one meaning to elements of the lyrics

18:20 Speaker 12: in that so that it makes it memorable because.

18:23 Speaker 11: At that right right exactly exactly.

18:26 Speaker 12: So you're taking you're taking that well known phrase God

18:29 Speaker 12: Save the Queen and or giving it a twist, and

18:32 Speaker 12: you know that's always a good thing because somebody's already

18:36 Speaker 12: come up with that idea and it's already in people's heads.

18:39 Speaker 12: If you're then using it yourself or you're doing like

18:42 Speaker 12: everybody's on drugs, you know, that's something that when you

18:46 Speaker 12: all automatically think about it, well, everybody's on drugs, must

18:49 Speaker 12: mean everyone's on illegal drugs and they're shooting up. Well

18:53 Speaker 12: that where it actually means is people are living a

18:55 Speaker 12: life where just to keep them going there that you

18:59 Speaker 12: know they're being supported by what they're getting from their

19:01 Speaker 12: doctors or what they're getting over the counter of the chemist,

19:04 Speaker 12: or it could be you know as well as you

19:07 Speaker 12: know what they're getting from their dealers on the corner.

19:10 Speaker 12: So there's more to the one phrase than just the

19:14 Speaker 12: one element.

19:15 Speaker 4: Right right, absolutely, And then so what's the touring situation?

19:19 Speaker 4: Like you guys playing a lot of shows at the moment,

19:22 Speaker 4: we're not. We're currently on a bit of a break.

19:26 Speaker 4: Gale just before Christmas underwent a knee replacement operation, so

19:32 Speaker 4: she's currently just get sort of starting to properly get

19:36 Speaker 4: out on the feet again. So we took we're taking

19:40 Speaker 4: some time out and we don't start gigging again until April,

19:45 Speaker 4: but we need she needs to, you know, make sure

19:47 Speaker 4: that she gets sort of fitting well and is able

19:50 Speaker 4: to bounce around on stage again like a good'n so

19:54 Speaker 4: that in that time we are sort of writing some

19:57 Speaker 4: new songs. We will be starting to rehearse those sort

20:01 Speaker 4: of in the next month or so. We you know,

20:04 Speaker 4: depending on how she is, we may start to gig

20:07 Speaker 4: earlier than that. But we've got quite a good calendar

20:10 Speaker 4: of you know, diary for the year.

20:12 Speaker 11: Good.

20:13 Speaker 12: We're playing the thirtieth anniversary Rebellion Festival in Blackpool, which

20:19 Speaker 12: is the big punk festival in the UK. There's an

20:23 Speaker 12: awful there's a lot of sort of bands. They've got

20:28 Speaker 12: a lot of bands from the States coming over there.

20:30 Speaker 12: There's all sorts of people that from all over the

20:32 Speaker 12: world coming to that. That is a big, big festival.

20:36 Speaker 12: That's over three four days in August. We've got a

20:41 Speaker 12: festival in Scotland in May called Punk on the Peninsula,

20:48 Speaker 12: which is just outside Glasgow. And we've got you know,

20:54 Speaker 12: a nice healthy sort of diary of gigs once we

20:58 Speaker 12: do start going again, and we hope during all that

21:02 Speaker 12: we will get a good another selection of songs that

21:07 Speaker 12: we will have another album maybe before the end of

21:10 Speaker 12: the year. You never know, depends on I mean, we

21:12 Speaker 12: don't know. A lot of them haven't been road tested yet,

21:15 Speaker 12: and sure what we think might work. When you then

21:18 Speaker 12: play them in front of people, they sitting there scratching

21:20 Speaker 12: their heads and what's going on, or they go absolutely

21:23 Speaker 12: bonkers and love it, so right right, Yeah, you have

21:26 Speaker 12: to you know, you have to, you know, trust the

21:29 Speaker 12: audience and see what's gonna what's gonna work.

21:34 Speaker 4: It's great too that you're doing festivals, because you know,

21:38 Speaker 4: this comes up a lot on the show. I really

21:40 Speaker 4: think that's that's the most valuable thing you can do

21:42 Speaker 4: in terms of playing live because you know, festivals, not

21:45 Speaker 4: only do you get do you get exposed to an

21:48 Speaker 4: audience that might not otherwise see you, but also the

21:52 Speaker 4: you know, backstage, just the connections that you can make

21:55 Speaker 4: in terms of meeting other industry people, whether it's just

21:58 Speaker 4: other bands or or or people who you know you really,

22:01 Speaker 4: I mean, the networking opportunity that comes with playing a

22:04 Speaker 4: festival is unparalleled, you know what I mean.

22:07 Speaker 11: So that's great, Yeah, very much so.

22:09 Speaker 12: Yeah, And not only do you make sort of connections

22:12 Speaker 12: that are good for the band, you also you know,

22:14 Speaker 12: you do make good friends from this because you know

22:17 Speaker 12: you're all in it together, and you you realize that

22:22 Speaker 12: you know, lots and lots of people are you know,

22:24 Speaker 12: they're all good people, and you've got a lot of

22:26 Speaker 12: shared experience, and you will automatically get on with a

22:30 Speaker 12: lot of people, right, which is very you know, which

22:33 Speaker 12: is which is a nice part of doing this sort

22:36 Speaker 12: of thing, whereas you know it's it's not just turn up, play,

22:39 Speaker 12: pack up, go. You know, you're turning up meeting people

22:43 Speaker 12: that you have a good time with and and they're

22:45 Speaker 12: but but the festival's definitely the big festivals like Rebellion

22:49 Speaker 12: are very good for bands like ourselves for the exposure

22:54 Speaker 12: you might be sort of playing the rest of the

22:56 Speaker 12: year to you know, much much smaller venues, much much

22:59 Speaker 12: sort of smaller crowds. But you're suddenly playing in front

23:02 Speaker 12: of ten twenty times the amount of people you normally would.

23:06 Speaker 12: And yet you know that can't be bad, No.

23:09 Speaker 11: Not at all, not at all.

23:10 Speaker 4: So I have saved the Sometimes I go for the

23:13 Speaker 4: most obvious question right up front, but I kind of

23:16 Speaker 4: saved at this time the name the puncturists. Where does

23:19 Speaker 4: that come from? What is the meaning of the name.

23:24 Speaker 12: I'm not sure how they came up with it, because

23:25 Speaker 12: they got the back the name before I actually started.

23:28 Speaker 12: But the Puncturists, the first EP that I mentioned earlier

23:33 Speaker 12: was actually called the punk Tourists. Oh so, you know,

23:36 Speaker 12: so the punk tourists or puncturists. You know, I'm not

23:39 Speaker 12: sure which came first, punk tourists or puncturists, and they

23:43 Speaker 12: decided to to put you know, decided to use that.

23:48 Speaker 12: But puncturists are also something where you're sort of going

23:51 Speaker 12: along and you're sort of puncturing people's you know, ideas,

23:56 Speaker 12: you know, coming along and sort of jabbing your needle

23:58 Speaker 12: into their balloon.

24:00 Speaker 1: You know.

24:00 Speaker 12: It's one of those names that's got got lots of

24:03 Speaker 12: potential meanings, have different meanings for different people. But it's

24:06 Speaker 12: also quite memorable, and you know, it's quite Yeah, that's

24:11 Speaker 12: a nice name. Yeah, yeah, No, I like one of

24:13 Speaker 12: the hardest I mean, you said you've been in one

24:16 Speaker 12: of the hardest things he'd been in a band when

24:17 Speaker 12: you first start, is what do you call yourself?

24:19 Speaker 11: Oh?

24:20 Speaker 12: Yeah, because you'll come up and there'll be some absolutely

24:24 Speaker 12: terrible things that people come up with, and and you

24:26 Speaker 12: think Oh, that's a good idea until you see it

24:28 Speaker 12: either written down or someone else says it, and you think, nah,

24:31 Speaker 12: they ain't gonna work.

24:32 Speaker 14: Well.

24:33 Speaker 4: Well, not only that, the other challenge is finding something

24:36 Speaker 4: that that somebody isn't already using.

24:38 Speaker 11: You know, yes, and you don't. You don't want to

24:40 Speaker 11: find yourself in a position.

24:41 Speaker 4: Where you know, you establish a name and you're you know,

24:43 Speaker 4: you're you're doing it, and you're you're getting somewhere with it,

24:46 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you find out you know,

24:47 Speaker 4: somebody else already has the name. I've told this story

24:50 Speaker 4: on the show. I have a friend, uh the friends.

24:53 Speaker 4: Some people will know him, but I'll leave I'll leave

24:55 Speaker 4: his name out of it. I don't want to embarrass him.

24:57 Speaker 4: But years ago, uh, this individual wasn't a band called

25:02 Speaker 4: I ran into him after and I've seen him for

25:04 Speaker 4: a while, and he told me about a new band

25:05 Speaker 4: that he was in called Intuition, and he said the

25:08 Speaker 4: name to me, and I'm thinking, oh, my god, Intuition,

25:11 Speaker 4: how many other bands are already using or have used

25:14 Speaker 4: that name? And then swear to God true story. I

25:17 Speaker 4: ran into him again, like a month later or two

25:20 Speaker 4: months later, and I asked him, you know, how's the

25:22 Speaker 4: band and he said, oh, good, but we had to

25:23 Speaker 4: change our name. We got to cea some assist letter

25:27 Speaker 4: from a band already using the name Intuition. And I

25:29 Speaker 4: was like, oh, that's too bad, and you know, but

25:31 Speaker 4: in my mind, you know, and I'm too polite to

25:33 Speaker 4: say it, but in my mind I'm thinking, well, yeah,

25:35 Speaker 4: of course you did, you know.

25:39 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's like the first bands I was

25:42 Speaker 12: in when we were at school. We were sort of

25:44 Speaker 12: like really enthusiastic sixteen year olds and we said, right,

25:48 Speaker 12: we're going to call ourselves reflex and like the one

25:50 Speaker 12: hundred thousand other bands called reflekes.

25:53 Speaker 15: No.

25:55 Speaker 12: Yeah, but you don't know that. When you yeah, the

25:57 Speaker 12: enthusiasm takes over and you think he's a good idea.

26:01 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I don't think there's any of the puncturists.

26:04 Speaker 11: Yeah, there you go, there you go.

26:06 Speaker 12: Yeah.

26:06 Speaker 4: For a second there, I I was worried you were

26:07 Speaker 4: gonna tell me I was saying it wrong and that

26:09 Speaker 4: it actually is punk tourists and I've been pronouncing it

26:11 Speaker 4: wrong this whole time.

26:11 Speaker 12: I was, Oh, say it however you like. But no

26:15 Speaker 12: puncturists is how we how we say it.

26:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, I've been learning a lot, you know,

26:22 Speaker 4: talking to people from from your part of the world.

26:24 Speaker 4: You know, we have we have a lot of guests

26:26 Speaker 4: from there on the show, and I love the music

26:28 Speaker 4: that comes out of there. But I just learned, uh,

26:30 Speaker 4: I just learned yesterday from a friend of mine who's British. Uh,

26:32 Speaker 4: you know pants that over I guess over there, Like,

26:35 Speaker 4: if you want to express this approval for something, but

26:37 Speaker 4: you don't want to swear, you say pants.

26:39 Speaker 11: Is that correct? Or she's just messing with me?

26:41 Speaker 12: Oh you can no, no, you can do. Oh, that's

26:43 Speaker 12: that's complete. Usually it's when something is complete pants, so

26:46 Speaker 12: that you complete rubbish or garbage or whatever. Oh, that's

26:49 Speaker 12: that's that's total pants, you know. Okay, yeah pants, Pants

26:53 Speaker 12: to us aren't trousers. Pants are the underwear.

26:56 Speaker 11: So oh okay, right right, yeah that makes sense.

27:00 Speaker 12: Yeah, so so he's yeah, he's like, and I mean

27:03 Speaker 12: people also say nickers in in the in the UK,

27:06 Speaker 12: which again is another word for underwear that I've heard

27:10 Speaker 12: that I heard pants. Yeah, something's a bit pants. It's

27:14 Speaker 12: not a very strong it's something that's a little bit

27:17 Speaker 12: not very good. If it was really bad, then it

27:20 Speaker 12: would be worse than pants. There's just a little bit

27:22 Speaker 12: Rubbish's a bit pans.

27:26 Speaker 11: I've been learning a lot. Yeah, uh now this is great.

27:29 Speaker 2: Yeah.

27:29 Speaker 4: In the first hour, we had a guest. Uh see,

27:31 Speaker 4: now I'm going to say his name wrong, car Hall fits.

27:36 Speaker 4: It's an Irish name, and I and I but I

27:38 Speaker 4: had to look up how to say it. And then

27:40 Speaker 4: he told me I was saying it correctly, although he

27:42 Speaker 4: might have just been being nice, but you know, because

27:45 Speaker 4: it's C A T H A L. And you know,

27:48 Speaker 4: and I'm of Irish descent, so I should know, but

27:50 Speaker 4: I didn't know. And he said I was saying it right.

27:52 Speaker 4: That I guess the tea is silent and it's car Hall.

27:54 Speaker 4: But you know, being a being a dude from America,

27:58 Speaker 4: you know, I'm learning a lot. Yeah, but so what

28:03 Speaker 4: so Gail, So Gil's obviously out of commission temporarily.

28:07 Speaker 11: But you said April you're going to get back to playing.

28:10 Speaker 11: Yeah we are.

28:11 Speaker 12: Yeah, we're first one is towards the end of April,

28:14 Speaker 12: and then we're sort of failing NonStop to the end

28:17 Speaker 12: of the year. But like I say, if if Gail

28:21 Speaker 12: sort of starts to feel a little bit more able

28:26 Speaker 12: to sort of stand for you know, while we might

28:29 Speaker 12: fix something else in before then, so we may be

28:33 Speaker 12: end of March, but you know, we've got to make

28:35 Speaker 12: sure that she gets properly better. I mean, it's having

28:37 Speaker 12: a knee replacement, isn't isn't a small operation?

28:40 Speaker 11: So no, no, jeez, I can imagine.

28:43 Speaker 12: Wow.

28:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Gale, So where's the best place for people

28:47 Speaker 4: to go to keep up with everything that the puncture is?

28:50 Speaker 4: Everything that you're doing and as far as getting your

28:52 Speaker 4: music and everything, you know, you did mention band camp

28:54 Speaker 4: and and by the way, I encourage I love band

28:57 Speaker 4: camp because that's what a lot of people don't realize

29:00 Speaker 4: about band camp is if you get if you get

29:02 Speaker 4: your music from there, you're getting a higher quality file

29:05 Speaker 4: then say, if you're just streaming it on YouTube or

29:08 Speaker 4: you know, and in some cases even Spotify, Like with

29:11 Speaker 4: band camp, you're getting you're really the highest quality file

29:14 Speaker 4: you can get.

29:14 Speaker 12: It's the it is the best quality that you can

29:18 Speaker 12: get from a sort of a a streaming or download service. Yeah,

29:22 Speaker 12: because you sort of tend to you upload sort of

29:25 Speaker 12: wow files and things like that, where as you get

29:28 Speaker 12: a more compressed, smaller file on a lot of other

29:31 Speaker 12: services and that, you know, it's it just is that

29:36 Speaker 12: little bit better. But actually to find us sort of

29:40 Speaker 12: keeping up with sort of the new, I mean there

29:42 Speaker 12: is a we do have a website, and I shall

29:46 Speaker 12: have to make sure I'll tell you the right address

29:49 Speaker 12: for that in a minute. But but yeah, I mean

29:54 Speaker 12: on Facebook is where you mostly find our sort of

29:58 Speaker 12: up to date and where things are change and happening

30:00 Speaker 12: and what's going on. Yeah, the website is www. Puncturists

30:08 Speaker 12: dot com, not the Puncturists, so it's just puncturists dot com. Okay,

30:13 Speaker 12: and yeah, Facebook, if you look at look for the Puncturists,

30:18 Speaker 12: you'll find us band camp, we're dead Swan Records, and

30:24 Speaker 12: you can find us streaming. We are on Spotify and

30:27 Speaker 12: Apple Music and all those sorts of things, YouTube music

30:33 Speaker 12: and that. So it's just so you know, people can

30:37 Speaker 12: find us all over the place whatever they particularly use nowadays.

30:41 Speaker 12: And of course with on band camp you can find

30:46 Speaker 12: our you can order the hard copies of things, so

30:50 Speaker 12: we do have CDs and whenever we gig then we

30:55 Speaker 12: have a merch store where you can buy CDs, t shirts,

31:00 Speaker 12: own all sorts of little bits of paraphernalia.

31:02 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, absolutely, And the website's good too. I'm

31:06 Speaker 4: a website nerd and I do like the website puncturists

31:09 Speaker 4: dot com. I see I see a lot of bad websites,

31:11 Speaker 4: but this is a good, good site. It's well organized,

31:14 Speaker 4: the layout's nice. Yeah, that's it's It's so important. I

31:17 Speaker 4: don't think people, not everyone realize how important it is

31:20 Speaker 4: to have a really you know, easy to navigate, you know,

31:23 Speaker 4: visually attractive but not overwhelming website. You know, there's a

31:28 Speaker 4: lot of nuance to it. But no, this is a

31:30 Speaker 4: this is a good site. So puncturists dot com. Yep, Dale,

31:34 Speaker 4: this has been wonderful. I really appreciate you joining us,

31:36 Speaker 4: and you know, we'll certainly have you back on as

31:38 Speaker 4: you release new music. It sounds like you've got some

31:40 Speaker 4: new stuff coming in a moment. We're gonna end the

31:44 Speaker 4: conversation with this track. This is my one of my

31:47 Speaker 4: favorites from the album They Don't Pay Support Bands.

31:49 Speaker 11: I love this song.

31:50 Speaker 4: Anything we should know about it before we play it,

31:51 Speaker 4: I mean we kind of touched on it already, but

31:53 Speaker 4: maybe it's self explanatory, I don't know, But anything we

31:56 Speaker 4: should know about this song. I don't know if maybe

31:58 Speaker 4: it's maybe it relates to us specific experience that you

32:01 Speaker 4: had as a band.

32:02 Speaker 12: Or it's well it's not one specific experience, but all

32:07 Speaker 12: of the different elements that you can hear that where

32:11 Speaker 12: have all happened in one place or another that we

32:15 Speaker 12: know where it talks about. You know, the support band

32:18 Speaker 12: has to sort of turn up at you know, hours

32:21 Speaker 12: before the event, provide the back line, and you know,

32:25 Speaker 12: the main band are sort of sort of stroll into town.

32:29 Speaker 12: They're getting paid, you know, silly amount of money, and

32:32 Speaker 12: the drummer says, and I haven't got me kick, Can

32:34 Speaker 12: I use yours? And yeah, all that sort of thing,

32:36 Speaker 12: you know. And then you know others where you've got

32:39 Speaker 12: promoters who will sort of put you on that right

32:42 Speaker 12: You've got to be here and you've got to be

32:44 Speaker 12: off in two seconds, you know, otherwise the you know

32:49 Speaker 12: you won't you know, never see you ever again. I'll

32:52 Speaker 12: make sure you never work in this town sort of thing.

32:54 Speaker 15: You know.

32:55 Speaker 11: You know, it's just.

32:58 Speaker 12: You know, we're fortunate now that a lot of the

33:01 Speaker 12: places we play, the promoters are actually sort of considerate

33:05 Speaker 12: and they know that the effort that people go to

33:09 Speaker 12: and they do look after you. I mean, we don't

33:12 Speaker 12: you know, massive amounts of money from it or anything

33:15 Speaker 12: like that.

33:15 Speaker 1: You don't.

33:16 Speaker 12: Yeah, we don't expect to if you are the support band. However,

33:20 Speaker 12: support bands who get looked after are more likely to

33:23 Speaker 12: say that was a good experience. You know, if you

33:25 Speaker 12: get the chance to play for this particular promoter or

33:29 Speaker 12: that particular venue, then do it. Likewise, if you have

33:33 Speaker 12: a really bad experience, that gets around very quickly to bands,

33:37 Speaker 12: and you'll have places wondering why they can't attract bands, right, well,

33:41 Speaker 12: we know why they can't. Then here's a song all

33:43 Speaker 12: about it sort of.

33:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly, so we'll hit that track in a moment,

33:50 Speaker 4: so we'll let you go. Deale Pharaoh from the Puncturist,

33:53 Speaker 4: thank you so much for joining us today and I

33:54 Speaker 4: look forward to hearing new music from you, and we'll

33:57 Speaker 4: talk again in the future for sure, So thank you

33:59 Speaker 4: so much much.

34:01 Speaker 12: Thank you, Matt. It's lovely to chat speak to you again.

34:03 Speaker 12: Seeing all right, ye bye sounds good bye bye. All right.

34:06 Speaker 4: That is Dale Farrow, bass player from the band The Puncturists,

34:10 Speaker 4: And yeah, this is a great track and you know

34:12 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of people in the music

34:14 Speaker 4: industry and a lot of bands, a lot of and

34:16 Speaker 4: soul artists too, listen to the show. I'm well aware

34:19 Speaker 4: of what our sort of core audience is with this program,

34:22 Speaker 4: so this will be highly relatable for many of you.

34:26 Speaker 4: But this is such a great song. This is called

34:28 Speaker 4: they don't pay support bands, and the band is the Puncturists.

35:07 Speaker 3: They don't pay some wok fans. It's a privilege to

35:11 Speaker 3: play here. Can you leave work early.

35:17 Speaker 8: To load and you give me acause they don't pay

35:21 Speaker 8: support fans.

35:23 Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to play here.

35:27 Speaker 1: Oh you're all driving, well, we could pay you in there.

35:32 Speaker 5: Oh wow, they.

35:46 Speaker 3: Don't pay support fans. I know it's a little crowl

35:52 Speaker 3: to work in six months with sex bills excess.

35:56 Speaker 1: You could.

35:59 Speaker 8: They don't pay some both fans, the fell let you

36:02 Speaker 8: play for free and you know the trumper from the

36:05 Speaker 8: main bad on a thousand pounds canny boya symbols please

36:10 Speaker 8: because they don't pay support fans of thel let's tell

36:15 Speaker 8: your merch but they want twenty percent.

36:20 Speaker 2: Of your CDs and your shirt.

36:23 Speaker 3: Oh wow, they don't pay support fans. And I hope

36:40 Speaker 3: it doesn't snow butt you're cute out on the street or.

36:46 Speaker 5: You're goun no place to go.

36:50 Speaker 3: They don't pay support fans.

36:52 Speaker 1: How can you bring twenty of your friends?

36:56 Speaker 3: If you bring the most fans to get higher up

37:00 Speaker 3: the bill and it all depends to cars. They don't

37:03 Speaker 3: pay support fans.

37:05 Speaker 2: Can you bring the full back line.

37:09 Speaker 3: General your stuff on the stage?

37:12 Speaker 1: My half fast night.

37:28 Speaker 3: They don't pay support fans.

37:31 Speaker 2: There's no where to park your car.

37:35 Speaker 3: Don't stay Kenny cats in. You pay for rice at

37:39 Speaker 3: the bar.

37:41 Speaker 8: They don't pay support fans. I don't forget to use

37:44 Speaker 8: your social links. They might let you join their Battle

37:49 Speaker 8: of the Bans.

37:50 Speaker 1: It just depends how much your family ships.

37:53 Speaker 3: Because they don may support fans. You over sell many

37:57 Speaker 3: gets it rents. I maybe don't wait anybody.

38:02 Speaker 1: Somebody so charity events, they don't.

38:20 Speaker 3: Pay some some offs. It's a privilege.

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