Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-25-25 hour 3

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4:58 Speaker 8: That is a wolf king of the ba is iron Jaw. And before that we heard Barry the Snake to open this segment, also Iron Jaw. This is Matt Connerton unleashed. And if you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered our number three new Marrow trace and thank you to everybody who's joined us today so far. Of course, in the first hour we had not Lee Crewe Motley Crue tribute band. Those guys were so much fun. And then of course in the second hour we had Mercury Burns first, another great band from the area.

5:26 Speaker 8: So what is supposed to be happening in this hour is the first half of the hour Iron Jaw. Rick Perry from not that Rick Perry, but Rick Perry from Texas is supposed to be skyping in to join us. And then in the second half of the third hour, we're going to be joined by the band Tuesday Night Whites from there all the way from the UK across the pond, as we say, but are actually there in Scotland, I believe. But so they're are going to be joining us, but we have not heard so our guests Iron Jaw is m i A. We have not heard from Rick Perry.

6:00 Speaker 8: We have emails from him and so forth, but so he knows he's supposed to be joining us, but something may have happened. So perhaps something has happened on his end and we'll have to reschedule him. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because those guys have always been super professional and so something had to have gone wrong for him not to be skyping in. So maybe skype isn't working for him, who knows, But so we'll see. I mean, maybe we'll hear from him in the next couple of minutes. But but yeah, a couple of great tracks Bury the Snake he sent us.

6:29 Speaker 8: He was saying that apparently Kiss is a band that he grew up loving, so that's supposed to be kind of like a kiss song, like an early kiss song. I can't hear oh, I see why I can't hear you. I had Skype turned up because we're waiting for Rick, but had you turned out? But yeah, I can imagine, I can imagine Gene Simmons singing that song Bury the Snake. Yeah. Yeah. And then wolf King is a great track, and so well we'll see if we'll see if we hear from him in the next few minutes. But anyway, but in the meantime, yes, but there is some olymp Biscuit news.

7:03 Speaker 8: We've been talking a lot about olymp Biscuit on the show.

7:07 Speaker 9: They are pressing forward with their lawsuits, yes, against Universal.

7:12 Speaker 8: But they've run into some hurdles, some hiccups. Fred Durstan the boys have. Yeah, you sent me this article from Digital Music News. Federal judge partially dismisses lymp biscuits two hundred million dollar plus UMG lawsuit amended complaint due by February third. So if you don't know, lymp Biscuit has sued their record label, Universal Music Group for two hundred million dollars in unpaid royalties, or, as I like to say, a hell of a lot of unpaid royalties. That's a lot of money. Two hundred million dollars.

7:49 Speaker 8: Yes, what pay the artist? Oh yeah, don't No, apparently not, It says here Olympus gets far reaching lawsuit against UMG isn't going particularly well. My goodnes, excuse me, I'm still coughing, as the presiding judge has dismissed several components of the over two hundred million dollar lawsuit. It says the court recently made the partial dismissal official after Olympus GET front man Fred Durst and his Flawless Records, which is his imprint record label, submitted the initial action. In October twenty twenty four.

8:26 Speaker 8: We covered the sixty page complaint alleging millions in unpaid royalties and seeking to nix the underlying agreements in detail. Just to recap Durst hired a new team in April twenty twenty four, and they uncovered millions in allegedly missing royalty payments, as well as purportedly below board recoupment practices across multiple deals, including an interscope Flawless JV. By the way, so recoupment for those who don't know, in the music industry, when a label signs you and they advance you a bunch of money.

9:03 Speaker 8: That's not your money to keep. It's not congratulations you're now a millionaire. That money is to pay for various things like recording your album and some other expenses that the label will incur on your behalf in terms of releasing and distributing and promoting your album, and that money has to get recouped and that in other words, that money has to be paid back to the label before you receive any royalties. So it's almost like an advance, like, well, it isn't advanced. It's an Yeah, the label is advancing you that money, but.

9:37 Speaker 9: It's not supposed to be just for you to spend on whatever you want.

9:41 Speaker 8: Right exactly exactly, So yes, But so according to UMG, that money had not been recouped, that advanced money had not yet been paid back, so they didn't They were saying they didn't know the band any money. Hard to believe. They sold like forty five million records, you know, I would think that they'd be owed something, but it says here. Consequently,

10:08 Speaker 8: owing in part to the timing of the relevant royalty payments, the plaintiffs moved to acts all the agreements in question and assume ownership of the involved recordings. Unsurprisingly, that didn't sit right with Universal Music, which fired back in November twenty twenty four with a firmly worded dismissal motion. In short, the major label said it hadn't violated the terms of the appropriate agreements, which allegedly allowed and do allow for cross account recoupments. Running with the point, there definitely hadn't been a total failure quote unquote on UMG's part to honor the terms of the contracts, including because the multimillion dollar advances it had coughed up per the company.

10:54 Speaker 8: Speaking of coffee, I can't stop coughing, cough it up, dry cough. As as a result, Olympus gets pushed to invalidate the contracts should be rejected per UMG, which therefore moved to dismiss the closely related copyright infringement allegations as well.

11:13 Speaker 6: Uh.

11:14 Speaker 8: Such a tangled web, and as initially highlighted, the presiding judge has sided with the defendant label specifically by tossing Olympus gets contract recision, copyright infringement and declaratory relief claims. So uh yeah, this is going poorly for Olympus at all, No, they lost a lot, Yes, but that doesn't mean they won't win with their you know, their their claim that they're owed money. It just it may not be the amount that they're suing for. But we'll see. But you know, one of the things that has come up, and uh, the there's a YouTuber who I really like, a law tuber named top music Attorney.

11:57 Speaker 8: That's the the handle she uses on YouTube, who talked about how labels often engage in something called spaghetti accounting, where the accounting practices are so complex that it's difficult to audit them. It's difficult to find out what you're actually owed. And we talked to when we talked about this before, how UMG apparently creates a portal that you as an artist, if you are signed to UMG, you can sign into your portal and see exactly where everything stands financially in terms of what your owed, financial recruitment, et cetera.

12:32 Speaker 8: But UMG, I mean, I'm sorry, Olympus get they were locked out of their portal. They must have lost their password or something. It's all very it's such as that lockout. What a mess. But the other thing too, it's a cautionary tale. You want to make sure when you sign, whether you sign with a major label, whether you sign a with any label, make sure you have an entertainment lawyer, look at that agreement with.

13:01 Speaker 9: Somebody on your side for certain Yes, the laws really do cover the industry more than they do the artist.

13:08 Speaker 8: Yes, in a lot of ways. Yes, absolutely, that is uh so, that's kind of the update with Olympiscuit. Something else that popped up that I thought was interesting. This is from Music Business Worldwide dot com. Ten thousand AI generated tracks uploaded daily to deezer. If you're not familiar with deezer, you can, you know, put files on there. You can put podcasts on there too. This show ends up on Deezer. I don't even know how it ended up there, but it's on there. You can find Mandreton Unleashed on Deezer.

13:42 Speaker 8: I'm not even kidding. I don't know how.

13:44 Speaker 6: I don't know what that is.

13:45 Speaker 8: I really don't. I don't know how it ended up there, but it's fine. I want to be everywhere. Yeah, but uh but it is filed. Deezer is filed two patents for a new AI detection tool so they can detect this AI generated content. I don't know how this is allwoing to go?

14:04 Speaker 9: How how do they do that?

14:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, apparently they have the technology. It says here. France headquartered music streaming service Deezer has launched a new AI detection tool after filing two patent applications for the technology in December. On January twenty four, this just happened. Yesterday, the company revealed that it's new It has new tech that is already discovered. That roughly ten thousand fully AI generated tracks are being delivered to its platform every day. Wow, every day. Wow.

14:37 Speaker 9: See now, I'm very much in favor of this software. I want to know if it's a human or not.

14:43 Speaker 6: I really do want to know.

14:45 Speaker 8: Well, apparently so does Deezer. That amounts to about ten percent of the daily content delivered to Dezer. Deezer CEO Alexis Lenineer, I probably didn't say that correctly, also said yesterday the company plans to exclude fully AI generated tracks. Quote from algorithmic and editorial recommendation. Generative AI has the potential to positively impact music creation and consumption, but its use must be guided by responsibility and care in order to safeguard the rights and revenues of artists and songwriters unquote.

15:22 Speaker 8: The company says it is set out last year to develop an AI detection tool that quote surpassed the ability of available tools. Tools that are on the market today can be highly effective as long as they are trained on data sets from specific generative AI models, but the detection rate drastically decreases as soon as the tool is subjected to a new model or raw data unquote. Aurelian Herald Chief innovation Officer A. Deezer said, quote, we have addressed this challenge and created a tool that is significantly more robust and applicable to modern models unquote.

16:06 Speaker 8: Deezer's new tool, on which the company filed for two patents in December, can detect artificially created music from a number of generative models such as Suno and Udio. Those have both been in the news recently, with the possibility to add on detection capabilities for practical any practically any other similar tool as long as there's access to relevant data. Examples. HM, So there's more to this. It gets pretty into the weeds, but Deezer is cracking down, and I imagine some other platforms will be doing so as well.

16:44 Speaker 10: Good.

16:45 Speaker 9: We should know the difference.

16:46 Speaker 6: I want to know.

16:48 Speaker 9: Are I think it matters? M I really do think. I mean, I'm not saying that somebody who wants to use AI to create something that they can't be creative like that, but I do think you should be able to know whether or not this is a computer human being. As an artist, I want to know, did a human pick up that paintbrush? But did's some printer put it out? I want to know the difference.

17:11 Speaker 8: Yes, I just am skeptical.

17:14 Speaker 9: Well you're gonna go plain you're not.

17:16 Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just skeptical about these these tools, these AI detection tools. I would think especially with with UH, you know, electronic music, I would think it would be difficult, like em electronic dance music. I would think it would be particularly difficult to H to detect certainty. I'm worried. What I'm worried about. What I'm worried about. What I'm worried about is artists getting UH. I'm worried about this going wrong and that legitimate artists end up being tagged as being AI generated when their music is not AI generated.

17:55 Speaker 8: That's what I'm worried about.

17:57 Speaker 9: I get what you're saying, but I think it's I think it matters.

18:03 Speaker 8: I really do think it.

18:04 Speaker 9: Like I said, you can be creative with computers and that's fine, but I want to know the difference between the two, right, I want to know if that guitar is being played by a human or not. And I'm wondering if what they're using is really the preciseness, right, because computers don't make mistakes. Everything is fun. Humans make the mistakes when they program it.

18:26 Speaker 8: But that's but see, that's where that's why I'm particularly concerned about what I'm worried about happening. I'm particularly concerned about that happening with electronic music, where you know you're creating everything if you're.

18:41 Speaker 9: But if you're playing it on a keyboard or something, it's not going to be precisely perfect unless a computer is operating it.

18:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. Oh, we'll see what happens. I'm skeptical.

18:56 Speaker 9: Well, do you want to know the difference? Do you want to know whether or not stun by computer or human doesn't matter to you?

19:02 Speaker 8: I don't know that it does that much. Really. I mean, I want to advocate for artists, but I'm just worried about things going wrong. Like I said, I'm worried about artists. It happens all the time with content creators. You know, content creators who create content and they get tagged by YouTube for you know, creating content that for copyright strikes yes or so forth that aren't actually valid things like that that I get. That I get.

19:30 Speaker 9: But I mean, we've seen a lot of artists come in here that use electronics and there's a uniqueness to them that I don't think that a computer can perfectly. They can make it perfect, but they can't make it imperfect.

19:44 Speaker 8: Like a human is. Well, we shall see. We'll keep an eye on this. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

19:51 Speaker 9: And I said that, I'm sitting here thinking, well, yeah, but they could program it to make mistakes like a you.

19:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, so how do you know how we are? Yeah, I'm concerned about that. I'm concerned about that.

20:05 Speaker 2: Well, let's do this.

20:07 Speaker 8: We're gonna play a couple. So we open today's show with two radio premieres. We played All the Drugs, the brand new track from our friends Naked Without It from the UK, their brand new song, so the American radio premiere of that, and We also played the brand new track from Mike Frasier, who is from Seattle, who's gonna be joining us on the show in the future. But he's got a brand new track, the world radio premiere of April Days. So for those of us just joining us in the first hour, those of you rather I've been here the whole time, we're gonna play those again.

20:41 Speaker 8: We're gonna debut those, and then when we come back, we're gonna have the guy I don't know how many of them are joining us, but we're gonna have the guys from the band Tuesday Night Whites joining us via Skype from across the Pond. Yes, and we're gonna play We're gonna play a couple of their tracks as well, so we played them recently a show on the show. We played a track called Runaway, the American radio premiere of that. But they've sent us a couple more. What a great band those guys are, so so there is plenty more to come.

21:06 Speaker 8: But here it is. This is from This is from Naked Without It. This track has called all the Drugs and you're hearing it for the first time in America right here on WMNH.

21:23 Speaker 10: Met a young lady. She said it tastes grit. She walked the streets of London pleasure she would see. She made the boy so happy, left them with a smile.

21:33 Speaker 11: She earned the most money and the king skin them out.

21:39 Speaker 11: But I'm met her in a dollhouse.

21:41 Speaker 10: Has been decreed. The cone across her eyes was the best that they ever seen. Took it to her restaurant. Her nails were painted black before the night through.

21:50 Speaker 11: While I was under a sack. She go home round, she gone back, She gone, I'm blown, She gone black.

22:02 Speaker 11: She gone around, She gone back, She gone blown, She gone black.

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22:53 Speaker 4: My toul ain't no problem.

22:55 Speaker 10: Because the cat came home.

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24:40 Speaker 12: April days of coming gone spring.

24:44 Speaker 6: Rain is rolling on.

24:47 Speaker 12: My heart breaks without a song. The road starts to wind. They're funding water so they last. The anti arms are coming fast. Will peace get a chance? Who would have known? I've been feeling.

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26:21 Speaker 4: To live again.

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31:07 Speaker 8: My god, what a great what a great track that is the Renegade. The band is Tuesday Night Whites and we've got via Skype Ollie is here, I believe Olie? Are you there?

31:18 Speaker 17: Hi?

31:18 Speaker 3: You okay?

31:19 Speaker 8: Hey, welcome to the show.

31:21 Speaker 3: How are you doing all right?

31:22 Speaker 8: Yes?

31:23 Speaker 10: Yes?

31:23 Speaker 8: How are you all right?

31:25 Speaker 17: Well?

31:25 Speaker 3: Thank you very well. I've got Jack with me as well from the bun.

31:29 Speaker 8: Jack is with you. Hello, welcome, how are we hey?

31:33 Speaker 4: Guys?

31:34 Speaker 8: I love that song, so we played we played recently on the show. We did the American radio premiere of twenty three which is a great song, and we got a lot of positive response to that here people who listen to listen to the show here Matt Conderton unleashed, and so we're excited to have you on. And then I listened to the Renegade and I think I had emailed back and said, this is just an epic track. It's so so good. So I love what you guys are doing.

32:01 Speaker 17: Love that.

32:02 Speaker 18: Thank you so No, I really really appreciate it giving it. It's a little Davey over there. And to play twenty three hour brand new one as well. No, it really means lots of that.

32:09 Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

32:10 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely no, glad to do it. And we have another track from you too that will play. Uh, we'll play a little bit later at the end of the segment. But how long have you guys been around? How long has this band existed? Tuesday Night Whites.

32:23 Speaker 18: So it's funnily enough, it started off just myself and Jack probably about maybe four or five years ago, and we started it just after maybe the COVID COVID nineteen times and we've used to play just an acoustic acoustic set with Jack on the guitar and myself singing, and we we saw we just we just fell in love with it. We we just love going out, we love playing in you know, like local pubs and clubs, and then we decided to pick it up and make it a band, probably about three years ago.

32:51 Speaker 8: Now, okay, okay, so relatively new in that sense, relatively new. Yeah, yeah, And how much music have you guys put out? Do you have a full album out or is it? Is it just singles at this point? Oh, we're not.

33:05 Speaker 18: We're not quite at the album stage yet. Obviously the gold for us, definitely, we're all like absolutely music mad. A lot of those we've been sort of playing music for as long as we can all remember. So at the moment, we've got three singles that are officially released, but we play a live set full of our own, our own songs, so we're hoping to keep releasing them throughout the year.

33:26 Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, once you've put out so far sounds amazing. So I look forward to hearing more from you guys. And you know, we do live in a time where there's various approaches and strategies you can use as far as releasing music. But no, I really I really like what I've heard so far. Tell us about the name, because people, you know, especially you're in American people are going to hear that name and be curious what does that mean exactly? Tuesday Night Whites.

33:53 Speaker 19: So basically, the name is from our local football team over here in Preston, And essentially the band is made up of five members, but all five members, we're just a group of mates as well outside of the band, and we all support over here the local football team Preston.

34:13 Speaker 17: So it's like a it's a common interest in something that we share together.

34:17 Speaker 19: And one of the nicknames of the club, of the football club is is Tuesday Night Whites. So because it's a common interest that we share, it's something that we can all relate to and something that unanimously brings us together. So we thought it's absolutely perfect to use it as the band name.

34:35 Speaker 8: Why now, why why are they? Why is that a nickname for the team? I mean the do they only play on Tuesdays? And what is are Do they have white uniforms? Like, I'm just really curious about the name.

34:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, So so.

34:49 Speaker 19: Our home kit, our home shirt is white, the color is white, and we do play usually play on Saturdays, but clusters.

35:00 Speaker 17: There's a lot of fixtures and a lot of games to be played.

35:04 Speaker 19: Quite often. There is a lot of games on a Tuesday night as well to fit them all in. Okay, so we all we all go in the game together, we go to the pub before the game together.

35:14 Speaker 17: So it's just a shared interest that we all have and that we can all relate to.

35:18 Speaker 8: Okay, Okay makes sense. I'm curious too about influences because the songs that you guys write, you know, there's a there's a real especially a song like the Renegade, there's a real sophistication there, but it's all so very very catchy. It's it's so accessible. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Oasis, but but only a little bit. I'm curious to hear about what what kind of influences going to the band and your music.

35:45 Speaker 18: Yeah, So I mean, like like I said previously, we're all like music mad, and we all we all spend like most of our time, even on the footballer going to live gigs, and I myself personally, I just since I went when I was like a young kid, I really fell in love with music.

36:00 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think Oasis definitely a huge, huge influence.

36:04 Speaker 18: On us all a lot of like No Gallagher's solo stuff as well, But then there's a lot more like sort of more modernish fans that are touring nowadays that like said, we we will go on a weekend and we'll sort of like really.

36:16 Speaker 3: Analyze you know, the live set and the sound and.

36:19 Speaker 18: Lyrics, and we'll sort of take the best bits and see if we can work that into our own stuff.

36:24 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, have you guys, are you getting any traction at radio where you are? Because like I said, I mean these songs are very very accessible. I can definitely imagine them on the radio.

36:37 Speaker 3: Yeah.

36:37 Speaker 18: We I mean, like I said, we our with our recent release twenty three. We had quite a big sort of marketing strategy behind that one. There's a there's a radio station based in Manchester which is called Radio X and then there's also one called Excess Manchester, which are two quite popular ones around that area. Yeah, and they gave us our debut play on those as well, So that was that was really cool.

37:00 Speaker 3: Good for us.

37:01 Speaker 8: So I have to tell you something funny too, just one of these synchronicities that happen, So you know how in twenty three. It's kind of toward the end of it. It might be coming out of the solo. There's the part with the bus station. It sounds like somebody's buying a bus ticket. Yeah, so we happened to When we played that song on the show, Jenny and I had just had an off air conversation with a guest about how where we are here at WM and H and Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course we're actually in a building that used to be a bus station, swear to God.

37:39 Speaker 8: And and in fact, if you look on Google for where to buy bus tickets around here, this building still comes up, which is why we have to keep the door locked. Some people don't wonder and trying to buy bus tickets. But we were explaining that. We happen to be explaining that to somebody who was a guest on the show.

37:58 Speaker 2: And uh.

37:58 Speaker 8: And then so we play that song and the I forget who it was. I forget who the guest was, but they noticed it before we did. Whoever was on was like, oh, I think it was Gracie. Actually she said, hey, I just heard a thing for a it sounds like somebody selling bus tickets. It was just so it was so weird. It was just like like I said, it was one of those odd synchronicities that can happen.

38:22 Speaker 3: But and maybe maybe it was it was made for that radio station then that that may.

38:27 Speaker 8: Very well be. It may have been faith, it may have been fath. What's the scene there as far as live shows, Are you guys able to play out a lot? Are there are a lot of places to play?

38:37 Speaker 3: Yeah?

38:37 Speaker 18: We I mean we, like I said, we're from Preston. We're all based in Preston around the Northwest. We're so close to to sort of the biggest cities like Manchester and Liverpool, Leeds newcastleant too far away. So for us, we've had quite a good success in the Northwest and we've built up.

38:56 Speaker 3: A lot of like a really good fan base around here.

38:57 Speaker 18: So it's been really good to play obviously impress in our hometown, but just maybe slightly out in Manchester Liverpool as well.

39:04 Speaker 8: Yeah, are these venues are they really receptive to original music? Because I know, you know some places you know they want to hear covers or whatever. But are you guys able to play a lot of shows where you can just focus on your original music and people are receptive.

39:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean we started out, and I think it's maybe just sort of a part of the trade.

39:25 Speaker 18: When you first start out, you do have to sort of go into places where they want a few more covers and stuff. But I think just getting getting your name out there and getting live experience is obviously fantastic for us. But yeah, and more recently, especially like last year, we were so lucky to get in some really great venues that are literally born and bred music venues, and they love original stuff, they love bands, they love live music. So yeah, it was really good last year to get out there and just play our own stuff, which we we love doing.

39:50 Speaker 18: We don't mind a cheeky cover here and there, but playing your own stuff, there's nothing beat to that at all.

39:55 Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, Have you guys made any videos yet?

40:01 Speaker 3: Not full length music videos.

40:02 Speaker 18: No, we try a little bit like social media, but I mean, if you look into the statistics now, it's all short and sweet videos.

40:10 Speaker 3: So we've done a few of those, but nothing full length. Yeah.

40:13 Speaker 8: I was just curious because I can imagine, especially a song like twenty three. I don't know, it just seems like it would really lend itself to to to some sort of a video. But but obviously you know, but you guys have it, you know, things covered as far as social media and whatnot, which is so so incredibly important. And yeah, do you have do you have I'm sure you don't have any immediate plans, but you know, do you kind of long term do you think about maybe getting you know, getting New America to play?

40:46 Speaker 8: I think I think you'd go over really well here, I really do.

40:49 Speaker 17: One hundred percent.

40:50 Speaker 19: We're just we're just, at the end of the day, a group of five mates that love playing music.

40:55 Speaker 17: So where everyone wants to hear us, one hundred percent we'll be there.

40:58 Speaker 19: So yeah, the most we're just focusing on getting out of our hometown area Northwest and then this year in twenty twenty five, we're going all over the UK up to Glasgow and Edinburgh, down to London, so who knows in the future out to Europe and then across the pond over to America.

41:15 Speaker 17: That would be unbelievable.

41:16 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that would be fantastic. How do you how do you guys record? There's so many different options now for how you record, but everything that I've heard so far it sounds like it's done in a million dollar studio, but I know that's that's I know that's not always the case. What is your approach to recording?

41:36 Speaker 19: And so we have a good friend of ours called Tom Hale, and his profession, his job is actually to work in a voiceover gallery, so he's he also does obviously bands and recording and mixes and masters. But we met him very early on in the band, and so we just get a demo together, something that we put together in his fair bedroom and then get a rough guide track, take it to him. We go into a studio and it's about probably about half an hour drive from where we live, and then Tom does. Tom does the rest and works his magic and it makes it sound as good as it is.

42:15 Speaker 19: So it's a it's a lot of credit to Tom and his skills and his hard work and the time and effort that he puts into it.

42:22 Speaker 10: Yeah.

42:23 Speaker 8: No, he does a great job. Everything sounds great. I imagine he's probably worked with some some pretty big artists, I would I would guess it sounds like.

42:33 Speaker 19: Yeah, No, he's a he's a he's very big in the local area where we are. Bands that we performed with that we know that we go and see. He does work with a lot of them as well as live sound engineering at gigs as well.

42:46 Speaker 17: So he is like around our area, he is the man to go to.

42:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, as excellent, excellent. How did you How did you come to work with him?

42:56 Speaker 6: Like?

42:56 Speaker 8: Was it because he sounds like a very busy guy. Was it challenging to connect with him or did it happen? Did it come together pretty easily?

43:05 Speaker 3: You know what? I think?

43:06 Speaker 18: I think he's he is such a littly guy that he always has quite a little a little spot for anyone from his sort of hometown that he can help out.

43:14 Speaker 3: Good for the first conversation we have with him, he he it was at a festival in Preston.

43:20 Speaker 18: It was a day festival and he was there and we were outside in the big garden and we just got chatting to him and then just sort of said, you know, if there's.

43:27 Speaker 3: Any possibility we could we could do some work of him.

43:30 Speaker 17: And he was really up for it.

43:31 Speaker 18: And then yeah, a few months later we got booked him with him and started the process.

43:35 Speaker 8: Oh that's really cool. Good, good, you plan to continue to work with him in the future, I assume, Oh?

43:42 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, if You'll have it was definitely.

43:44 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool, I think in a moment, so I want to play you know, we've played twenty three on the show before obviously, and we just played the Renegade, I think too at the end of our conversation, I'd like to play Lost Control, another really really cool song. I love that one. Everything I've listened to that you guys have put out so far, I think is uh, it's just been amazing. But but for people who are listening who want to know where to keep up with you guys online, where to keep up with all the new music and and and people we might have listening in your area, because you know, obviously you can get access to the show from anywhere in the world.

44:20 Speaker 8: People who want to maybe get to a live show. Where should people go online to keep up with everything Tuesday Night Whites is doing.

44:27 Speaker 18: Yeah, So we we try and we try and keep all of our social media up to date as possible, and I think maybe Instagram and Facebook if you can find us on there, and those would be the key ones for us. We do a little bit on TikTok with some videos and stuff as well, but of course we've released on Spotify, Apple Music and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, if you want to give us a follow on Instagram or Facebook, it's t NW official underscore.

44:54 Speaker 8: All right, very good, very good, that's easy. Yeah, you guys are very very googleable, as I to say, absolutely so. Yeah, so we'll let you go. In a second, we'll play this track, Lost Control. But thank you both so much. Ali and Jack from Tuesday Night Whites. Let's do this again in the future, because obviously you're gonna keep releasing new music and we'll keep playing it here. We love what you guys are doing. But thank you. We'll let you go. But thank you guys both so much for joining us today.

45:24 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you for playing the tracks. You really really appreciate it.

45:27 Speaker 8: Yeah, great night, Absolutely you too. All right, thanks guys, take care, all right, bye bye. All right. That was Jack and Allie from the band Tuesday Night Whites. Let's play this track. This will be another American radio premiere. This hasn't been heard anywhere in the US. This is called Lost Control. We're gonna give this a spin and then Jenny and I we'll come back and finish up for today. But check this out. Lost Control. The band is Tuesday Night Whites.

46:33 Speaker 2: He's com okay, it's so bad.

46:36 Speaker 4: He's got the Dreamers the series, but no controller.

46:38 Speaker 1: And see there's the Knight.

46:40 Speaker 2: He's lost control the Moon. The three spiritcals got one thing on his mind.

46:47 Speaker 4: So now the Dreamer is alive and as he has the Knight.

46:50 Speaker 20: And he lost controlful, he lost control, he lost control and he loves Controul.

47:01 Speaker 4: The cancer, I said, set he is not strong with.

47:29 Speaker 1: No cares or back and this he hass the Knight and he lost.

47:33 Speaker 20: Control very plays conceded, relieve the under the night.

47:43 Speaker 2: He lost control, he lost control, was lost controul and he lost control.

47:54 Speaker 6: Sol mh.

49:24 Speaker 14: S it's.

49:34 Speaker 3: This.

49:42 Speaker 6: But his sound is a.

49:43 Speaker 4: Longest boy sound is the longest.

49:47 Speaker 2: So scouts a Knight, so Scouts and Knights, he says, sound is a lot sound.

50:45 Speaker 8: Those guys have such a great sound. I love them. I love them. Tuesday Night Whites is the name of the band that is called Lost Control. Thank you again to Ali and Jack for joining us today on the show, skyping in from one another. One of those intercontinental calls. But that was that was fantastic, and we're gonna play. We're actually we talked about it during our interview. We'll play it again at the end of the show today twenty three, which is the first single from the band that we debuted here on the show on American Radio.

51:14 Speaker 8: Uh so, always very happy to do that, Jenny, before we go, you've been very busy. Of course we should plug your website and where people should go to keep up with everything you're doing.

51:25 Speaker 9: I know I have a lot to catch up on on my website at Jencoffee dot com j E N n c O f f ui dot com. You can keep up with my activism there.

51:34 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, you've been You've been very busy. Yes, oh we should mention too. This past week we were at On Tuesday night, we were at Terminus Underground. That was so much fun at New Hampshire Underground of course grand reopening. Yep, Eleanor and Andre doing great things there and we finally met Simba yes Simsyre on the Facebook, so that was very cool.

52:00 Speaker 9: Space in Nashaulla. Definitely encourage people to check it out.

52:03 Speaker 3: Yep.

52:04 Speaker 9: You can utilize the space there as an artist. They even have a practice room that where bands can come in and utilize if they don't you know, necessarily have the ability to rent a room for themselves to have all to themselves all the time. They actually have a space that you can come in and utilize.

52:22 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, and you even have a set set up in it. And we got to watch Quincy Lord oh yeap do an amazing set, and then Jesse Rutstein, who is also going to be coming on the show soon.

52:35 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, we will be seeing them in the future. Excellent artist, amazing sound. Yeah, just really enjoyed. The entire event was wonderful. We saw Manchester Inclink was there. I believe it's an article Yep, that was a great article of course from the Manchester Inclink. You should check them out for certain. They cover a lot of great New Mpshire news, not just limited to us.

52:56 Speaker 8: I think there's something in the Hippo too, I think you're right, was something.

53:01 Speaker 9: Yeah, And of course that's the home of Dead Harrison. Yes, another great band that we've had on the show before. We look forward to when they come back.

53:08 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

53:09 Speaker 3: Yeah.

53:09 Speaker 9: It was all in all an absolutely amazing place. They even have a gallery area where they highlight local artists and they do change that artwork out on a regular basis. If you'd like to be highlighted. They should definitely check out the New Hampshire Underground. They're on Facebook and all the other socials do yes, they are everywhere, yes, yes, yes, yes, so definitely check that out. And then, of course our other lovely place we love is the Mosaic Art Collective. They have a new show coming up soon.

53:39 Speaker 9: The deadline was yesterday to enter, so this weekend they'll be announcing those who have made it into the Show of Illusions, which is going to be all about three D effects and things that maybe look a little different or below in the dark black light. I'm looking forward to seeing how that show goes. And then the next show that's coming up you want to think of it is a kinetics show where people are going to be doing interesting art. I've actually been trying to bug Miriam into remaking one of her really creative pieces she did of puddles.

54:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think it would be an excellent, excellent submission for the Mosaic Are Collective, so definitely check them out as well. Located right here in the Queen City.

54:22 Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, well, thank you everyone who joined us today. Of course, we had a Nottley crue in the first hour of the Great Motley Crue tribute band, and in the second hour we had Mercury Burns first, and of course Tuesday Night Whites in the third hour, and not sure what happened Iron Jaw, but hopefully everything's okay. Well, hopefully everything's okay because I really like them. But so if you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at wm andhradio dot org and on my website Matt Connorton dot com.

54:48 Speaker 8: Also, if you missed yesterday's granted state of Mind, oh god, yeah, John Hopwood was there. He was there for the full hour. I so missed that.

54:57 Speaker 2: Laugh.

54:58 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I loved listening to listening last night hearing him laugh. I missed you happy And then Texas Mike and I joined the show halfway through. Ye, so that is of course up at wmnhradio dot org, and of course then John Hopwood joined us on as well as Texas Mic for Retro Spectrum Radio.

55:16 Speaker 8: Well on the.

55:17 Speaker 9: Evening here at WMNH. That was so much fun. Miriam and I were actually enjoying being creative listening to you folks.

55:24 Speaker 8: Yeah.

55:24 Speaker 9: I worked on a painting and she was doing some.

55:28 Speaker 8: Oregami. Thank you.

55:30 Speaker 9: The word for some reason was being replaced with macromay.

55:33 Speaker 8: Okay, and that's not right. No, that's what you do, that's what I do, all right.

55:36 Speaker 9: No, we had fun.

55:37 Speaker 8: It was a good evening, very good, very good. So thank you everybody, and we're gonna close today's show out with one more track from Tuesday Night Whites. This is the first single that we premiered on the show. And this listen carefully, you'll hear the bus station in it. This is called twenty three. And we'll close out with this and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later. Bye everybody, Bye bye jee.

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56:10 Speaker 4: And it feels like everything changes.

56:13 Speaker 16: But the people around you keep a smile on the face in case I'm telling you yeah, I'm selling yeah, I'm selling you really, So.

56:24 Speaker 4: Let's say it down and you can sell it. Sounds it's some one new.

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57:23 Speaker 4: Or suit, and it feels like everything changes. But we've had that before.

57:28 Speaker 10: So while we prot through the paces.

57:30 Speaker 3: Yeah I'm selling you. Yeah, I'm selling you.

57:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm selling you.

57:36 Speaker 2: So say down and you can sell it.

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