Matt Connarton Unleashed 1-3-26 hour 2

0:00 Speaker 1: W m n H rip the novels.

0:06 Speaker 2: You're listening to macconnorton unleash on m n H ninety

0:11 Speaker 2: five point three.

0:38 Speaker 1: It's so hard to say where we are today. It's

0:40 Speaker 1: like everything we wanted so far away, all our dreams

0:43 Speaker 1: and like distant stars at play squeezing through a fingers

0:46 Speaker 1: like a ball of play calls and say we need

0:48 Speaker 1: another dollar stack. We hate to holler a retch you,

0:51 Speaker 1: but you gotta call us back. You pull at you

0:53 Speaker 1: call her like a cardiac. You pull the pressure like

0:55 Speaker 1: a herd attack. Then like a thundercrack, you could see

0:58 Speaker 1: through it, off pas the unders, everything that makes you fall.

1:01 Speaker 1: World turn a sunday like herb and sprawl as you

1:04 Speaker 1: wander through the dust like a resole, as you try

1:06 Speaker 1: to put the world together again, as you weigh your

1:08 Speaker 1: soul up against the feather and again put together. It's

1:11 Speaker 1: about the weather, and then we can talk about the

1:13 Speaker 1: rest forever and then whatever. Then talk about how we

1:16 Speaker 1: treat each other, to feed each other, how we beat

1:19 Speaker 1: each other. We need each other. We gotta plant to

1:21 Speaker 1: see the brotherhood bleed for the common good. So when

1:24 Speaker 1: you're sitting pissed in a traffic jam, and you could

1:27 Speaker 1: see it all around you like a hall of gram

1:29 Speaker 1: But the lady in a way welcome em me scene,

1:32 Speaker 1: but it's another Birmingham. Because I tell you the truth,

1:34 Speaker 1: soone dissen the lead. I don't want to sell you

1:36 Speaker 1: the proof. You should listen to me. The cradle fell

1:39 Speaker 1: with the roof as erst u looks like youth and

1:41 Speaker 1: still wear missing the key sign of the.

1:43 Speaker 3: Times, the sign of the times, paying no attention just to.

1:46 Speaker 4: Rhythm and ride.

1:47 Speaker 5: Put your hand down.

1:48 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you climb because I don't want to

1:50 Speaker 1: be another sign at the times and just signing the times,

1:53 Speaker 1: just a sign of the time, paying no attention just

1:55 Speaker 1: to rhythm and rise.

1:57 Speaker 4: Put your hand out.

1:57 Speaker 1: I'm a healthy climb because I don't want to another side.

2:00 Speaker 6: Of the Times.

2:01 Speaker 1: We gotta bounce when we hit the ground. Take ahead,

2:04 Speaker 1: coun't take a look around. We y all amount to

2:07 Speaker 1: something I found. So help somebody. You have to make

2:09 Speaker 1: the world go around the sound of one hand.

2:12 Speaker 6: Just don't clap.

2:13 Speaker 1: We cantra build up with off handed wrap. We can't

2:15 Speaker 1: pretend this is just a mishap. We can't defend our

2:18 Speaker 1: opinions with straps. We gotta acosolidarity, stay focused on freedom

2:23 Speaker 1: and cheery tee.

2:24 Speaker 7: We gotta share.

2:25 Speaker 1: It's the key to prosperity. Don't let fear turn into barbarity.

2:29 Speaker 8: Or would you care to be?

2:30 Speaker 1: And someone else shoots through the deal like hell of

2:32 Speaker 1: heaven to chew. There's every bone, there's people who roll

2:35 Speaker 1: with the blue. Say a prayer because this mother just

2:37 Speaker 1: sold to lose. I know you're feeling alone, engaged as

2:41 Speaker 1: I'm coversing this microphone and rage. Gotta stuftreuss in your

2:44 Speaker 1: craning and boat bert caged up, obsessing because you're not

2:46 Speaker 1: on your own. You never know when the need will appear.

2:49 Speaker 1: Trouble booze as I do better, heed what you hear

2:52 Speaker 1: double true when your plan you see it's soon here

2:54 Speaker 1: because your two need is to let the world into fear.

2:57 Speaker 1: But you gotta stay clear of any of the aerive

3:00 Speaker 1: that got you here. You gotta see a lot of

3:02 Speaker 1: what we see his feeling, but you gotta rise above

3:04 Speaker 1: it like the atmosphere.

3:06 Speaker 3: Sign of the times, just a sign of the times.

3:08 Speaker 3: Are you no attention?

3:09 Speaker 1: Just a rhythm and rhyme. Put your hand out on

3:12 Speaker 1: a healthy cline because I don't want to be another

3:14 Speaker 1: sign at the times, and just a sign of the times,

3:16 Speaker 1: just a sign of the time. You no attention, just

3:18 Speaker 1: a rhythm and rhyme. Put your hand out on a

3:21 Speaker 1: healthy climb, because I don't want to be another sign.

3:23 Speaker 9: Of the times.

4:01 Speaker 1: This is just the dark before the dawn. So gather

4:04 Speaker 1: in the park with your park is off, make another

4:06 Speaker 1: spark for the stars are gone to keep away the

4:09 Speaker 1: sharks of bab alone, because they traveled on the waves

4:11 Speaker 1: of tragedy. They gathered in the graves so glad to

4:14 Speaker 1: see another dead sleeve to the powers that be, and

4:17 Speaker 1: they fed on the dreadlike energy.

4:19 Speaker 3: But don't let them be.

4:20 Speaker 1: Don't give them nothing to take it, because there will

4:22 Speaker 1: never be a time when you've got nothing at stake.

4:24 Speaker 5: Are you gonna bend?

4:25 Speaker 4: Are you gonna break?

4:26 Speaker 1: Are you're gonna defend all the plays you make? Are

4:29 Speaker 1: you're gonna run away from ans?

4:30 Speaker 9: So?

4:31 Speaker 1: Are you're gonna shun another?

4:32 Speaker 3: Who's in distress?

4:33 Speaker 1: Who's the one who your mother taught to me? God blessed,

4:36 Speaker 1: who's the one who your mother taught to help?

4:37 Speaker 9: The rest?

4:38 Speaker 1: Sign of the times, it's just the media spin head

4:40 Speaker 1: lines dramatized to see that we're in posing down the beach.

4:44 Speaker 1: If they imagine a fi don't trust what they each

4:46 Speaker 1: on your television.

4:47 Speaker 4: Sign of the Times.

4:48 Speaker 1: It's just the line of the sand, designed to hide

4:50 Speaker 1: how close we off them. A trust the takes the

4:53 Speaker 1: time washes over the lair wash us over the lair

4:55 Speaker 1: wash us over the land. Some sign of the times

4:58 Speaker 1: with the.

4:58 Speaker 3: Sign of the times, do you know it?

5:00 Speaker 1: Just a rhythm and ride. Put your hand out. I'm

5:02 Speaker 1: gonna help you climb because I don't want to be

5:04 Speaker 1: another sign of the times and just sign of the times,

5:07 Speaker 1: the sign of the times, paying no attention just to

5:09 Speaker 1: rhythm and ride. Put your hand out. I'm gonna help

5:12 Speaker 1: me climb because I don't want to be another sign

5:14 Speaker 1: of the time, sign of the times, the sign of

5:17 Speaker 1: the times, paying no attention just to rhythm and ride.

5:20 Speaker 8: Put your hand out.

5:21 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you climb because I don't want to

5:23 Speaker 1: be another sign of the times and just sign of

5:25 Speaker 1: the times, for the sign of the times, paying no

5:27 Speaker 1: attention just to rhythm and ride.

5:29 Speaker 2: To put your hand out.

5:30 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you climb because I don't want to

5:32 Speaker 1: be another sign of the time.

5:49 Speaker 4: Hmm. I love that for a couple of different reasons,

5:51 Speaker 4: but we'll talk about that in a moment. That is

5:53 Speaker 4: Sign of the Times. Welcome everybody. We have entered our

5:55 Speaker 4: number two new maridos of Matt Connorton unleashed and we

5:58 Speaker 4: are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five

6:02 Speaker 4: point three FM in glorious but very cold, but glorious Manchester,

6:06 Speaker 4: New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, January third, twenty twenty six.

6:10 Speaker 4: Happy New Year, everybody, our first show of the new year.

6:13 Speaker 4: Jenny is here, of course at the news table. I

6:16 Speaker 4: really like that song a lot. Yeah, isn't that good?

6:18 Speaker 4: I'm like over here, it's so good. And joining us

6:23 Speaker 4: in studio, Gary Smith is here.

6:24 Speaker 5: Hello, Gary, Hello, how are you guys?

6:26 Speaker 4: Gary Smith, as I like to say, the busiest musician

6:29 Speaker 4: I know anywhere. He's in two hundred and seventy four

6:32 Speaker 4: bands and there's something like that. Right, we're in double digit,

6:36 Speaker 4: definitely in double digit. Can you just pull that mic

6:39 Speaker 4: over a little. I just want to make sure it's right. Yeah,

6:40 Speaker 4: there we go, perfect, Thank you, so Side of the Times.

6:44 Speaker 4: So I mentioned that that's special to me because so

6:47 Speaker 4: I that song has been played on the show before,

6:50 Speaker 4: but not that version. So I played the uh, I

6:53 Speaker 4: played it. I've played it maybe a couple times, not recently,

6:56 Speaker 4: but the Chemical Distance version of the song that I

6:59 Speaker 4: played bass on years ago seems like another lifetime in

7:03 Speaker 4: some ways. But but that is my favorite version, the

7:07 Speaker 4: one that that you've brought to us. That's amazing what

7:11 Speaker 4: you took and did with it. And of course our

7:14 Speaker 4: friend MHP Michael Halpley Pierce, who of course I was

7:19 Speaker 4: in Chemical Distance with him along with Auto Kinsel, and

7:22 Speaker 4: that was always one of my favorites to play live

7:26 Speaker 4: because it's such a great track and Mike's rap on

7:30 Speaker 4: that whole thing is so good. It's so smooth. Oh yeah,

7:32 Speaker 4: And I assume you didn't take the original vocal track,

7:35 Speaker 4: that's he redid that, right.

7:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, we redid that at our engineers, just with kind

7:41 Speaker 5: of a backing track, and then he sent the raw

7:44 Speaker 5: vocals to me and then I just kind of did

7:45 Speaker 5: everything up in my bedroom and then I sent the

7:47 Speaker 5: stems back to Pete and we went and mixed it

7:49 Speaker 5: and made it sound good on all his his nice

7:51 Speaker 5: expensive equipment.

7:52 Speaker 10: Yeah.

7:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, So just kind of a little studio time sometime

7:56 Speaker 5: in my room and then just the mixing time. So

7:57 Speaker 5: it was really it's a fun way to do it

7:59 Speaker 5: because I had pretty mu as much control.

8:00 Speaker 4: I knew it.

8:01 Speaker 5: You one he said that weird little breakdown section.

8:03 Speaker 4: I love that.

8:04 Speaker 5: He's like, just do whatever you want. So I did

8:06 Speaker 5: like a halftime guitar, so good. Yeah, the whole thing

8:09 Speaker 5: is so good.

8:10 Speaker 4: I think it's the third version of that song, because

8:12 Speaker 4: I think it was originally a Litherman's song, a Litherman's load,

8:16 Speaker 4: the hip hop duo that Mike had, MHP had and

8:20 Speaker 4: then and then he brought it to chemical Chemical distance

8:22 Speaker 4: and then and then brought it to you to do that.

8:25 Speaker 4: Like who's whose name is that? Officially? Under?

8:27 Speaker 5: Is that under? It will be released under JAM tomorrow, Okay,

8:30 Speaker 5: but it will be featuring Percussive Maintenance because that's my

8:33 Speaker 5: like producer name, so that yeah, so it'll be you'll

8:36 Speaker 5: be able to find it through my my streaming stuff,

8:39 Speaker 5: which is all under Percussive Maintenance.

8:40 Speaker 4: Okay.

8:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, just because me and Pete kind of I did

8:43 Speaker 5: most of the product production. Pete did the mixing and

8:45 Speaker 5: master he did some little production stuff, so okay, but yeah, yeah,

8:49 Speaker 5: it'll be Uh, it'll be under Jam Tomorrow. We have

8:52 Speaker 5: three or four other songs that should be coming out

8:54 Speaker 5: this year. That one and two other songs are basically mastered,

8:57 Speaker 5: ready to go. Okay, I'm just waiting for some art

8:59 Speaker 5: and some other just two other Jam Tomorrow. So the

9:02 Speaker 5: Jam Tomorrow songs, Yeah, one with a guest. Actually probably

9:06 Speaker 5: three other yeah, three other Tomorrow songs. One with Michael

9:08 Speaker 5: Freeman who's in Free Will, which is a little group

9:11 Speaker 5: around here. Yeah, he's playing drums. Ones with Brian Murphy,

9:14 Speaker 5: who's my trumpet player, Buddy, who's been on some of

9:16 Speaker 5: my stuff, who's okay, a Boston musician. He's amazing. He's

9:19 Speaker 5: playing trumpet on some stuff. So uh okay, yeah, we

9:22 Speaker 5: we actually added him on drums and stuff. So like

9:24 Speaker 5: he was, he was hanging out with me. So I'm like, okay,

9:26 Speaker 5: you're going on a bunch of Jam Tomorrow songs. But yeah,

9:28 Speaker 5: we have I think four songs that should be coming out.

9:30 Speaker 5: Oh wow, probably fairly soon.

9:31 Speaker 4: Oh fantastic? Are are there songs we would know from

9:35 Speaker 4: the show that that you guys have.

9:36 Speaker 5: Played on the whole wide World? The Rachel the Yeah, yeah,

9:40 Speaker 5: that's pretty much ready to go White Whale, which I

9:44 Speaker 5: think we played here once. That's the one that me

9:46 Speaker 5: and Mike wrote when I was broken. Yes, yeah, that

9:50 Speaker 5: one's pretty much recorded. I played piano on that, okay,

9:52 Speaker 5: that's the one Mike Freeman plays drums on. And then

9:56 Speaker 5: twenty two we've done that before, okay, and we added

9:59 Speaker 5: some cool trumpet harmonies on that one, so that one's

10:01 Speaker 5: really unique sounding too. Okay, I think those are Yeah,

10:06 Speaker 5: those are the four I think that are pretty much ready.

10:08 Speaker 4: The ones that I have, because I definitely have recordings

10:09 Speaker 4: of at least a couple of those. Are those demos

10:12 Speaker 4: that we that I he may.

10:13 Speaker 5: Have given you either like not fully mastered ones right right, yeah,

10:18 Speaker 5: or like like the song one of the songs I

10:21 Speaker 5: gave you here is the non fully ready to release

10:24 Speaker 5: version the stems. He's going to do some mixing and

10:26 Speaker 5: mastering to that, but this is kind of the pre

10:28 Speaker 5: mix version, just to kind of tease it out there.

10:30 Speaker 5: That's that jazz ones, okay, but yeah, that's probably what

10:33 Speaker 5: we did there. But yeah, now twenty two is much

10:35 Speaker 5: further along. You may have played close to the studio

10:38 Speaker 5: version of White Whale. That would probably.

10:39 Speaker 4: Probably okay, yeah, yeah, and then so you've been you've

10:44 Speaker 4: been very busy, you know, we always say you're you're

10:46 Speaker 4: the busiest musician I know. But also you've been since

10:49 Speaker 4: the last time you were here. So you're now playing

10:52 Speaker 4: with Roots of Creation, right.

10:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, Roots of Creation and Grateful Dub.

10:55 Speaker 4: So that's that's huge.

10:56 Speaker 5: I've been a fun adventure for sure. Those guys are

10:59 Speaker 5: so fun, so fun to jam with, and it's a

11:02 Speaker 5: it's nice to kind of see the next level of

11:04 Speaker 5: like band leader and like how Brett runs the band

11:07 Speaker 5: is it's a it's a it's given me good ideas

11:09 Speaker 5: in terms of like how to operate my things because

11:11 Speaker 5: he's just so like good at controlling what's going on

11:13 Speaker 5: on stage, and especially in something like that where there's

11:16 Speaker 5: like a lot of improvisation or New Year's Eve show.

11:19 Speaker 5: We did two of the seven songs on our setlest

11:21 Speaker 5: he's like, let's do this instead, Let's do this and

11:23 Speaker 5: said so but and then it's like we'll hold accord.

11:25 Speaker 5: He's like, let's see how we can get to this

11:26 Speaker 5: next part. It's like, okay, now go up a half step,

11:28 Speaker 5: now go up before to get to that. So it's

11:30 Speaker 5: like it's really all a lot of improvisation, which as

11:33 Speaker 5: a jazz nerd is is right up my alley. Yeah,

11:36 Speaker 5: but yeah, I know, it's it's been fun. It's met

11:39 Speaker 5: some crazy people and uh, they just released Werewolves of

11:42 Speaker 5: London for Halloween. I played based on that, and we

11:45 Speaker 5: have the Grateful Dub album is coming out. The second

11:48 Speaker 5: one is coming out very soon. I've recorded some stuff

11:50 Speaker 5: on that and that's very exciting. A bunch of stuff

11:53 Speaker 5: in the theater or a bunch of stuff in the

11:55 Speaker 5: studio like Paul from Slightly Stupid on a bunch of

11:57 Speaker 5: stuff a bunch of a bunch of cool people on it.

12:00 Speaker 5: You loves on some stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's

12:04 Speaker 5: been so fun. And yeah we're doing a big Florida

12:09 Speaker 5: South Southern tour February in March. Yeah, but yeah, I

12:12 Speaker 5: mean we are playing a couple of cool shows around here.

12:14 Speaker 5: February sixth and seventh. We're playing a Flying Monkey in

12:17 Speaker 5: Plymouth excellent, and then Wally's on February seventh. Oh, very good,

12:20 Speaker 5: both of those with Paul uh the organists from a

12:23 Speaker 5: Slightly Stupid opening for us. Okay, nice, It was definitely

12:27 Speaker 5: worth worth checking out. But yeah, I know it's it's

12:28 Speaker 5: it's been. It's been an awesome adventure. And uh, all

12:31 Speaker 5: the guys at the band are so fun and so

12:33 Speaker 5: easy to play with. And yeah, obviously as a bass player,

12:36 Speaker 5: I care about the drummer, and the drummer is so

12:37 Speaker 5: easy to get along.

12:38 Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, that's good.

12:39 Speaker 5: After a few crucial like we're like locked in.

12:41 Speaker 4: It's good. Good. Now, how did that come about? Because

12:46 Speaker 4: you initially you were like a fill in right.

12:49 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. I filled in actually with my engineer back

12:52 Speaker 5: in March at a at a show they had up

12:55 Speaker 5: in a sugar sugar bush or one of the yeah,

12:59 Speaker 5: one of the mountains up there, just sugar sugar loaf,

13:02 Speaker 5: sugar loaf, yeah, okay, yeah, And I just filled in

13:04 Speaker 5: with uh, with Bread on bass, just for like a

13:06 Speaker 5: last minute show. And then when they were looking for

13:09 Speaker 5: a bass player because their bass player lives in Florida

13:11 Speaker 5: and it was difficult for for that, he recommended me.

13:15 Speaker 5: He's like, oh, Gary does all this weird jazz fusee

13:17 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, I can just dial it back

13:18 Speaker 5: and do some dude.

13:19 Speaker 8: Yeah.

13:20 Speaker 5: And then once I did, like okay, yeah, this word

13:21 Speaker 5: so then yeah, yeah, we stubbed in for a few

13:23 Speaker 5: shows like up in Vermont, U in New Jersey, and

13:26 Speaker 5: then uh yeah, towards the end of last year kind

13:29 Speaker 5: of made it official, got some cool pictures, So yeah,

13:32 Speaker 5: I know, it's it's been Uh, it's definitely been an

13:34 Speaker 5: experience and it's yeah, it's a lot of fun.

13:36 Speaker 4: It's uh.

13:36 Speaker 5: I ended up doing you know, probably Eve though I

13:38 Speaker 5: only joined really in September. I did like twelve or

13:40 Speaker 5: thirteen shows with him last year, and it was really

13:43 Speaker 5: fun to kind of to lock in and kind of

13:46 Speaker 5: learn some new stuff. And obviously I'm a nerd. I

13:48 Speaker 5: show up with all the sheet music because I like

13:50 Speaker 5: transcribe everything. Yeah, yeah, like what are all these notes?

13:53 Speaker 5: I'm like, I write out all them?

13:54 Speaker 4: Dokidding?

13:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps me learn, Like like in schools, taking

13:58 Speaker 5: notes helped you learn, Like that, I listened to it,

13:59 Speaker 5: I write it down, and then I like locked in

14:01 Speaker 5: my brain as a picture of those that writing out

14:04 Speaker 5: those notes.

14:04 Speaker 4: That makes sense.

14:05 Speaker 5: Yeah.

14:06 Speaker 4: Interesting, It must be cool too to have something like

14:10 Speaker 4: that work out where because that probably wasn't something you

14:13 Speaker 4: thought was going to happen in twenty twenty five, right,

14:16 Speaker 4: that you'd end up playing with Roots of Creation and

14:18 Speaker 4: then and then become a member of the band.

14:20 Speaker 9: Yeah.

14:20 Speaker 5: No, it's definitely wasn't on my Uh, it wasn't on

14:23 Speaker 5: my guest list of what I thought it was gonna happen.

14:26 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah I was. I was really pleasantly surprised.

14:28 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean it's I love playing bass and

14:32 Speaker 5: playing bass with you know, a bunch of guys who

14:34 Speaker 5: just loved the music, like you can't you can't go

14:36 Speaker 5: wrong with that, and they've obviously been around for for

14:38 Speaker 5: so long, you know, over twenty years. Yeah, Breton tal

14:41 Speaker 5: have been doing it, so it's uh, it's definitely, uh,

14:45 Speaker 5: it's cool to step into something like that. I mean,

14:47 Speaker 5: obviously my other band's like Fox, like Fox and Flamingos

14:50 Speaker 5: have been building so long, and like it gives me

14:52 Speaker 5: ideas with how they operate in terms of transferring. And yeah,

14:56 Speaker 5: we got a new piano player with Fox and Flamingos

14:58 Speaker 5: last year too, so yeah, he's a little he was.

15:01 Speaker 5: I met him through Kevin Haran, who I know, you know,

15:04 Speaker 5: we did that show at the Bank of Hampshire stage

15:07 Speaker 5: last year. Yeah, and I met his piano player who

15:09 Speaker 5: was in the Dave Matthews tribute band, and then our

15:12 Speaker 5: piano player was leaving because family stuff. So I'm like, hey,

15:16 Speaker 5: you should join us. So like he's like Dave Matthews

15:19 Speaker 5: tribute band's like a national tribute band and they're actually

15:21 Speaker 5: their managers the same managers Roots of Creation. Oh, so

15:24 Speaker 5: like it's all like this weird thing. So yeah, now

15:26 Speaker 5: both of us are in and so like that's kind

15:28 Speaker 5: of bump Fox up a little bit in terms of

15:30 Speaker 5: his professionalism, like having day sheets, having stuff much more

15:33 Speaker 5: organized instead of just kind of flying by the seat

15:36 Speaker 5: of our pants.

15:36 Speaker 4: Sure.

15:37 Speaker 5: Sure, So that's that's definitely helped Fox get a lot

15:39 Speaker 5: of cool and better opportunities.

15:41 Speaker 4: Oh that's fantastic, great, great, I still love that song

15:44 Speaker 4: Don't Be a Stranger. Oh my god, that is such

15:46 Speaker 4: a great song. I love Fox on the Flamingos. Is

15:49 Speaker 4: it hard to juggle all this? I mean, you must be.

15:52 Speaker 4: You strike me as someone who must be very organized,

15:55 Speaker 4: right because you've got so much going on, you have

15:57 Speaker 4: to be organized.

15:58 Speaker 5: It's in certain things. I'm very organized. It's organized chaos.

16:03 Speaker 5: I know exactly where I need to be, where I

16:04 Speaker 5: should be, but like some things of my life are

16:08 Speaker 5: definitely not the most organized. But yeah, sure, I mean

16:11 Speaker 5: it's for when I I kind of just go down

16:13 Speaker 5: rabbit holes, like I I know what I need to

16:15 Speaker 5: do and like, but yeah, I'm mostly organized. Yeahs my

16:20 Speaker 5: ask my kids. They may give you a different answer,

16:23 Speaker 5: but I mean, obviously it helps. I try to kind

16:26 Speaker 5: of check off all the boxes. And then like even

16:30 Speaker 5: now with the root stuff, like I have for Fox,

16:33 Speaker 5: We've got a sub basis. So for then shows that

16:35 Speaker 5: I can't make it, oh, we have a basis who's

16:37 Speaker 5: a very good basis who can fill in for me

16:39 Speaker 5: as needed, and pretty much you know, obviously Jam Tomorrow

16:42 Speaker 5: can operate without me. Cosmic Boston can operate. They have

16:45 Speaker 5: a separate basis, so most of this stuff can. I

16:48 Speaker 5: can wiggle it around as needed. And then you know,

16:50 Speaker 5: even my solo shows, if I get a last minute

16:52 Speaker 5: tour thing, I can just plug in someone to one

16:54 Speaker 5: of my solo shows and most of the venues are

16:55 Speaker 5: cool with that.

16:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, that's really good.

16:59 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a mixture of things, but yeah, it's definitely. Uh,

17:03 Speaker 5: I look at my schedule many times.

17:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. And this is probably the

17:08 Speaker 4: busiest you've ever been, right, I mean, have you ever

17:10 Speaker 4: had a point where you were busier than you are recently.

17:13 Speaker 5: No, because I mean, I I don't know if we

17:14 Speaker 5: ever talked about it too much. I took a long,

17:16 Speaker 5: long break from music, so like when I was in

17:18 Speaker 5: high school, I was doing a lot of jazz, probably

17:20 Speaker 5: playing thirty forty shows throughout high school. In the beginning

17:24 Speaker 5: of college. Then, I mean, my ex wife got into

17:27 Speaker 5: having a kid, having a family, and I didn't play

17:30 Speaker 5: music for two thousand and three to twenty twenty pretty much. Really, Yeah,

17:33 Speaker 5: so I didn't pa music out for seventeen years.

17:35 Speaker 4: That shocks me, Yeah, because I remember, I do recall,

17:39 Speaker 4: because Eve been on the show several times, I do

17:41 Speaker 4: seem to recall you talking about a break, but I

17:43 Speaker 4: didn't realize it was that long. So seventeen years.

17:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, the last The first time I played out was

17:48 Speaker 5: during COVID. I played at six oh three Brewery with

17:52 Speaker 5: the old piano player and the drummer from Fox and

17:53 Speaker 5: the Flamingos. I yah got in with them, and that

17:55 Speaker 5: was like the first time being being ah then and

17:58 Speaker 5: then I started playing with Jam Tomorrow, and then Fox

18:00 Speaker 5: and Flamingos formed and then it's just been a whirlwind.

18:03 Speaker 5: But yeah, like I was looking back twenty twenty three,

18:05 Speaker 5: I did like forty shows. Last year I did one

18:08 Speaker 5: hundred twenty shows. Well, two years ago I did one

18:10 Speaker 5: hundred twenty shows, and then this year I did two

18:12 Speaker 5: hundred and ten shows. So yeah, I don't that trajectory

18:15 Speaker 5: isn't sustainable. But if I can stay around two hundred,

18:17 Speaker 5: I'll be happy.

18:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now during that break, did you still pick up

18:24 Speaker 4: the bass or other instruments.

18:26 Speaker 5: I played my guitar decent amount during then, but not,

18:28 Speaker 5: but it was like it was weekly. It wasn't like, okay,

18:31 Speaker 5: daily like, so you never completely disengaged. But I still

18:34 Speaker 5: had a guitar, but there would definitely be times where

18:36 Speaker 5: I would probably go a month without playing it. No, yeah,

18:38 Speaker 5: I was doing I mean that was when I was

18:40 Speaker 5: super into car racing and oh yeah I was. Yeah,

18:44 Speaker 5: so that that was part of it. Two that that

18:46 Speaker 5: kind of took away. But yeah, I mean my ex

18:48 Speaker 5: wife didn't necessarily love the music side of things. So

18:51 Speaker 5: even a lot of times when I would go to

18:52 Speaker 5: like pick up the guitar, that's when you turn on

18:54 Speaker 5: the TV or something. Oh yeah, I get it.

18:56 Speaker 4: So oh wow.

18:57 Speaker 5: So then I got divorced in twenty twenty and that's

18:59 Speaker 5: kind of what what sparked me. And actually MHP we

19:02 Speaker 5: had some jams with my sister used to date Hernesto

19:05 Speaker 5: before she passed, and so we would jam it Arnesto's

19:09 Speaker 5: like garage, and that's how I originally met MHP and that's.

19:11 Speaker 4: How that all.

19:12 Speaker 5: Okay, it all started. Okay, that was probably yeah, like

19:14 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen that we did that. Twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

19:17 Speaker 5: we jam for the first time, but that was like

19:18 Speaker 5: my first time even playing with anyone, wow, for probably

19:20 Speaker 5: fourteen years. Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 10: Wow.

19:22 Speaker 4: It's just mind blowing that, you know, you had such

19:25 Speaker 4: a long break and now you're so busy. It's like

19:28 Speaker 4: a completely as like such a total life shift in

19:31 Speaker 4: that way, it really is.

19:32 Speaker 5: I Mean I wish I had been doing it the

19:33 Speaker 5: whole time, but also like I wouldn't be in the

19:35 Speaker 5: place because like obviously I was a car sales manager

19:38 Speaker 5: for a long time stuff like that, so I have

19:40 Speaker 5: a little bit of stuff aside. So when I kind

19:42 Speaker 5: of took the plunge, yeah, I had some safety net

19:44 Speaker 5: where if I was twenty and taking the plunge, it

19:46 Speaker 5: wouldn't have ever worked.

19:47 Speaker 4: True.

19:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, so's it's kind of a blessing in disguise. And

19:52 Speaker 5: you know, I know a lot of I have a

19:53 Speaker 5: lot of friends who've been doing music their whole lives.

19:55 Speaker 5: Some of them more burnt out than others, you know,

19:57 Speaker 5: like I've I'm definitely burnt out from being a car

20:00 Speaker 5: sales right. This is like I still don't I tell

20:04 Speaker 5: people I don't work, like I just play music all year,

20:06 Speaker 5: Like yeah, it's not like I need a vacation, like right,

20:08 Speaker 5: play music.

20:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's true. So it's you're doing what

20:12 Speaker 4: you love. Yeah, that's yeah.

20:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what my parents when they were my mom,

20:16 Speaker 5: when she was like forty five fifty, they got a

20:19 Speaker 5: they started a music store and wallis so like that

20:22 Speaker 5: was kind of there chasing their dream, leave the corporate

20:24 Speaker 5: world and start a music store. So she would be

20:26 Speaker 5: she would be happy that I was doing what I'm doing.

20:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. If you're just joining us,

20:31 Speaker 4: Gary Smith is here with us, And should we play

20:33 Speaker 4: another track? You sent us a bunch of new stuff.

20:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's let's uh, let's do the Heist tune.

20:39 Speaker 4: That'll uh okay.

20:41 Speaker 5: This is called listen here. Heist is a project I'm in.

20:44 Speaker 5: We play every first Wednesday of the month at Hermano's

20:48 Speaker 5: Up and Conquered residency. There play it. Panucci's a bunch two.

20:53 Speaker 5: They have a jazzy and kind of a rock side.

20:55 Speaker 5: I tend to stay on the jazz side because the

20:57 Speaker 5: rock side is usually on Saturdays when I already have gigs. Okay,

21:00 Speaker 5: but yeah, no, they're they're cool, they're under heyst improvised

21:02 Speaker 5: music on Facebook. Yeah. Curtis Arnett, Curtis Martin, what's his Aaron?

21:10 Speaker 5: Who does the kids the kids concerts?

21:13 Speaker 4: Uh?

21:14 Speaker 5: Aaron? Oh, I can't think, but yeah, he's in.

21:15 Speaker 11: It.

21:16 Speaker 5: Took Randy Honeyman a bunch of people in it, so

21:21 Speaker 5: it's it's a cool Eric Billadoh, it's a cool little combination.

21:23 Speaker 4: But yeah.

21:24 Speaker 5: This is when we recorded actually in Basement and Conquered.

21:26 Speaker 5: This is with Randy, Curtis Arnett on sacks, Curtis Martin

21:31 Speaker 5: on drums, and me on bass guitar.

21:33 Speaker 4: Okay, very good, very good? All right? So this is Heist.

21:36 Speaker 4: This is Heist and the what's the track call?

21:39 Speaker 5: Uh listen listen here? Yeah, let me just make sure, yeah.

21:44 Speaker 4: Listen here, listen here by High Star. I checked this out.

22:00 Speaker 8: And short about and the Tho, the Thotle Bird and

22:37 Speaker 8: compla compa turn of Turn.

23:08 Speaker 4: And then.

23:17 Speaker 12: Look at Baby's and the.

24:44 Speaker 9: Records as the.

26:00 Speaker 4: H I love that that is heist. What's what's the

26:54 Speaker 4: track again?

26:55 Speaker 5: Listen here?

26:56 Speaker 4: Listen here that uh that guitar soloids. It's like it's

27:00 Speaker 4: telling a story, you know what I mean? Thank you?

27:03 Speaker 5: That's the goal?

27:04 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I love that. I love that very very cool.

27:07 Speaker 4: Is that I haven't heard you mentioned heyst before. Is

27:10 Speaker 4: that a new project? You're newer for you?

27:12 Speaker 5: It's somewhat newer. I kind of just came think I

27:15 Speaker 5: sat in with them at Hermanos just to start out,

27:18 Speaker 5: because they needed someone to do some jazzy stuff.

27:20 Speaker 7: Yeah.

27:20 Speaker 5: And then yeah, then Curtis is a bartender at Frevate Friends.

27:26 Speaker 5: So we've sat in with sitting with me at Feathered

27:28 Speaker 5: Friends and then yeah, we just kind of it all

27:30 Speaker 5: worked out. Curtis Martin the drummer from this and said

27:33 Speaker 5: in with Cinnamon Jazz Trio, one of my other jazz

27:35 Speaker 5: group too. Oh okay, so it's a yeah, it's fun.

27:39 Speaker 5: We're all, we're all we all just shared it. Jazz

27:41 Speaker 5: is fun like that.

27:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely it's uh, I've never played jazz music.

27:49 Speaker 4: I've only been in rock bands and stuff like that

27:51 Speaker 4: and a couple of things that were a little a

27:53 Speaker 4: little different. But it must be kind of I imagine

27:57 Speaker 4: it to be liberating to have that kind of freedom

27:59 Speaker 4: with a project like that, where where it can you

28:02 Speaker 4: can play in different configurations and you know, and do

28:06 Speaker 4: a lot of improv is improvising and and all that.

28:09 Speaker 4: That must be really cool.

28:11 Speaker 5: No, it's definitely nice. I mean, I ran jazz dams

28:14 Speaker 5: up at PCL for the last couple of years. Okay,

28:16 Speaker 5: just people come in if you kind of has some

28:19 Speaker 5: semblance and how to play jazz like. It's so even

28:21 Speaker 5: though people think it's so like nonstructured and it's so chaotic, like,

28:24 Speaker 5: there is a lot of structure to it, so why

28:26 Speaker 5: you understand the structure. It's easy to just kind of

28:28 Speaker 5: PLoP in, Like Cinnamon Giastrio. We've played a bunch together

28:32 Speaker 5: the last song or one of those songs that she

28:35 Speaker 5: plays flute in our piano player on that. But we've

28:37 Speaker 5: never had a rehearsal because we just get up together

28:39 Speaker 5: and we're all tight. We all know how each other

28:42 Speaker 5: works at this point, so we can just play and

28:43 Speaker 5: put on an amazing show just without we know how

28:46 Speaker 5: to interact with each other.

28:47 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, it's very fun if you're

28:51 Speaker 4: just joining us. Gary Smith is here with us and

28:54 Speaker 4: sharing some some new music and uh so what what's

28:59 Speaker 4: kind of the thing that takes up is Roots of Creation?

29:02 Speaker 4: Does that take up the most of your time in

29:03 Speaker 4: terms of because we're talking earlier about how you you

29:06 Speaker 4: don't have to be very organized with your calendar.

29:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they probably. I mean in terms of

29:11 Speaker 5: actual work, solo solo shows take up the most time.

29:14 Speaker 5: Like last year I did seventy solo shows and like

29:16 Speaker 5: twenty two jams Iran, so the majority of the shows

29:20 Speaker 5: are that. But yeah, I mean in terms of just overall,

29:24 Speaker 5: especially this year, I'll definitely be playing the most non

29:28 Speaker 5: solo shows with Roots, Okay, and then obviously like traveling

29:31 Speaker 5: and Tory and stuff that you have travel days and

29:34 Speaker 5: stuff like that, so yeah, those will get those will

29:36 Speaker 5: get gobbled up. Yeah, but yeah, I mean beyond that,

29:39 Speaker 5: I mean I did play the most shows with Fox

29:42 Speaker 5: last year. In terms of band, I mean with me

29:44 Speaker 5: and Mazie again more projects Me and maze split off

29:48 Speaker 5: and we do Vaudeville Vixen, which is me and Mazy

29:50 Speaker 5: just doing jazzy stuff and some Fox songs in like

29:54 Speaker 5: kind of a duo thing with my Looper.

29:56 Speaker 4: So oh cool.

29:57 Speaker 5: So we did probably thirteen shows like that last year

30:00 Speaker 5: then on top of the thirty Flamingos shows.

30:03 Speaker 4: So wow. Yeah.

30:04 Speaker 5: So, I mean me and Maizie are probably the most

30:06 Speaker 5: busy together or being Bob, because me and Bob play

30:08 Speaker 5: together a bunch with Me and Bob are actually playing

30:11 Speaker 5: tonight with RGB Trio at Brickhouse in Milford, and we

30:16 Speaker 5: have Amanda van Tyne, this lead singer from Cosmic. She's

30:18 Speaker 5: going to come in and join us for a lot

30:20 Speaker 5: of the sets, so it's going.

30:21 Speaker 4: To be excellent party, excellent.

30:23 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean they all take some amount of time,

30:28 Speaker 5: and even like Jam Tomorrow last year I didn't get

30:30 Speaker 5: play with them as much, but we did a lot

30:32 Speaker 5: of stuff in the studio. So I did more stuff

30:33 Speaker 5: in the studio with them last year than really probably

30:36 Speaker 5: anyone except for Rooster Creation, so okay. So yeah, I

30:40 Speaker 5: mean it's just where they're so good to operate among

30:43 Speaker 5: themselves and even some places they like we don't have

30:45 Speaker 5: space for a trio. We just need to du like

30:47 Speaker 5: play at Eva Tratoria or whatever in Bedford and they

30:50 Speaker 5: just want to du.

30:51 Speaker 12: Oh.

30:51 Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

30:53 Speaker 5: I mean it's I gotta juggle. But I keep busy.

30:57 Speaker 5: I'm always adding things. Yeah, I'm in a project Scott

31:00 Speaker 5: Soulski now, who's a seven string guitar, So I play

31:02 Speaker 5: eighth string guitar. He plays seven ring. And then Mike Waller,

31:05 Speaker 5: she was an amazing drummer like me, in seventy three

31:07 Speaker 5: different bands. He played drums. We're playing at a big

31:10 Speaker 5: bear lodge Andre's Art Institute, which is gonna be a

31:13 Speaker 5: cool show. So yeah, but yeah, like he was someone

31:16 Speaker 5: I met literally last year and we've become friends and

31:18 Speaker 5: started playing with and recording a bunch And he was

31:21 Speaker 5: in Foresight Funk when they when that existed in a

31:24 Speaker 5: bunch of.

31:25 Speaker 4: I think, didn't you bring the eighth string here once?

31:28 Speaker 13: Yeah?

31:28 Speaker 5: I've road here a few times. Yeah, yeah, I usually

31:30 Speaker 5: bring the nylon string eighth string, but I most of

31:32 Speaker 5: the time I'm playing an electric eight string when I'm

31:33 Speaker 5: out out about.

31:34 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, because I remember you, Yeah, that's right,

31:36 Speaker 4: I remember you playing the eighth string here with Jam

31:38 Speaker 4: Tomorrow yep. And I think I had comment I think

31:41 Speaker 4: I had said to you that day on the show

31:44 Speaker 4: that it was fascinating to me. I was like watching

31:46 Speaker 4: you the whole time because it's like you're it's it's

31:49 Speaker 4: like a bass and a guitar having a conversation exactly. Yep.

31:53 Speaker 4: It was so fascinating to me, to me to watch

31:55 Speaker 4: you and listen to you, you know, kind of go

31:57 Speaker 4: back and forth between you know, it's just really really

32:00 Speaker 4: because I've never seen I don't know if i'd ever

32:02 Speaker 4: even seen an eight string, let alone seen an eight

32:05 Speaker 4: string up close like that, you know what I mean,

32:08 Speaker 4: And to just watch you play it, it was fascinating

32:10 Speaker 4: to me. Thank you.

32:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I mean I try to kind of

32:13 Speaker 5: get the Charlie Hunter like pianist approach where you're kind

32:16 Speaker 5: of being like a pianist and combining the two as

32:19 Speaker 5: much as possible. But it's yeah, it's definitely a different

32:21 Speaker 5: world than piano. But uh yeah, I mean it's it

32:23 Speaker 5: gives me some extra flexibility and like, yeah, tonight with

32:26 Speaker 5: O rgb G, it's just me and Bob. Bob plays guitar.

32:28 Speaker 5: I play the eight string. Yeah, so we're just going

32:30 Speaker 5: back and forth. I'm playing bass guitar. Sometimes he's singing,

32:34 Speaker 5: but he has like a bass patch on his thing,

32:35 Speaker 5: so he'll play ice well bass while I play solo.

32:37 Speaker 5: And I've been teaching. Oh okay, so it's a it

32:40 Speaker 5: throws people for a loop because there's always bass going on.

32:44 Speaker 4: Right right. Oh that's awesome. Well why do we play another?

32:49 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we have time. Let's uh play day lous.

32:52 Speaker 4: That's a quick one, okay, and uh tell us about this.

32:55 Speaker 5: This is I played in my buddy's wedding in October,

32:59 Speaker 5: and I wanted to just fill out the procession with

33:02 Speaker 5: some songs that I had created, So I just randomly

33:04 Speaker 5: wrote a classicalish song. So I recorded it. I thought

33:09 Speaker 5: it came out cool. Put a little rain stick track

33:11 Speaker 5: behind it to make it kind of like vibe like that,

33:13 Speaker 5: and yeah, that's what this is. But it's a cool,

33:15 Speaker 5: cool song.

33:16 Speaker 4: So this one's all you.

33:17 Speaker 5: This is all original young guitar.

33:18 Speaker 4: Yeap, nice, nice, all right. This is called Deluge.

35:25 Speaker 8: Yah Ah.

35:41 Speaker 4: That is so pretty.

35:42 Speaker 5: Thank you.

35:42 Speaker 4: I really like that. I really like that. If you're

35:44 Speaker 4: just joining us, Gary Smith is here with us in

35:47 Speaker 4: studio and when you when you record something like that,

35:53 Speaker 4: I mean, is are you improvising or are do you

35:56 Speaker 4: actually sit down and write that ahead of time? Or

36:00 Speaker 4: how does that work?

36:00 Speaker 5: So it starts off with me kind of just improvising,

36:03 Speaker 5: and then I do write it down for those types

36:05 Speaker 5: of things, So like for that, I will improvise to

36:09 Speaker 5: kind of figure out the parts, and then I'll put

36:11 Speaker 5: it into my use music score for sheet music and

36:14 Speaker 5: I'll kind of put it in there, and then I then,

36:18 Speaker 5: even though I can read music, then I look through

36:21 Speaker 5: I convert it to tab so I can see if

36:22 Speaker 5: there's a better way to do any fingering and interested

36:25 Speaker 5: in doing something that could be more like then once

36:28 Speaker 5: you see it in the tab, like you're like, oh,

36:30 Speaker 5: why would I go from here to hear? Because that's

36:32 Speaker 5: how I had it in my brain. But yeah, I

36:34 Speaker 5: can just do this to this and it's so much easier.

36:35 Speaker 5: So even though I read sheet music, but a lot

36:39 Speaker 5: of times will convert it to tab just to kind

36:41 Speaker 5: of make sure that the fingering is as efficient as possible.

36:45 Speaker 4: That is that's very interesting to me. I've never heard

36:47 Speaker 4: anyone say that before, but that makes sense logically. Yeah,

36:50 Speaker 4: you know, because most people, I think most guitar players

36:52 Speaker 4: are and bass players too, think of tablature as you know, well,

36:55 Speaker 4: if you can't really read music, or if you don't

36:56 Speaker 4: want to bother with it, you just look at the

36:58 Speaker 4: tablature and it's you know, that's what I would do.

37:00 Speaker 4: I never really learned to read music, so that's.

37:02 Speaker 5: What I would be for example, too, was just reading

37:04 Speaker 5: tab Yeah.

37:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but what you just explained makes sense. You know,

37:08 Speaker 4: the tab is going to show you a more efficient

37:10 Speaker 4: way to do the same thing. And obviously, I mean

37:13 Speaker 4: that's one of the first things I learned when I

37:14 Speaker 4: took guitar lessons is you know, you want to be

37:16 Speaker 4: efficient with everything you do because that way you can

37:18 Speaker 4: do more. So that, yeah, that makes total sense. That's

37:21 Speaker 4: that's really interesting. Does it? Does it ever change? Like

37:26 Speaker 4: so obviously when you when you look at the tablature,

37:30 Speaker 4: it's going to show you a more efficient way. Do

37:32 Speaker 4: you ever end up changing anything at that point?

37:34 Speaker 5: Or Yeah, I've definitely changed some things because like once

37:36 Speaker 5: I put it to that, I'm like, why would I

37:38 Speaker 5: go from here to here? And then I'll just I

37:39 Speaker 5: won't change the notes per se, but just where I'm

37:41 Speaker 5: putting them and so if if you know, I was

37:43 Speaker 5: on the first threat, might go to the sixth threat

37:45 Speaker 5: to make it more efficient coming from the fourth threat

37:48 Speaker 5: instead of going down to the first, go up to

37:49 Speaker 5: the sixth or something like that. So I do, yeah,

37:51 Speaker 5: I do change kind of how I play once I

37:53 Speaker 5: do that, and then like once I do the final recording,

37:56 Speaker 5: I've kind of already figured out all that aspect of it.

37:58 Speaker 5: So okay, like that is kind of the most efficient

38:02 Speaker 5: way that I could have played that song. Yeah, yeah,

38:05 Speaker 5: but yeah, I know that's that's kind of how on

38:07 Speaker 5: songs like that. Again, all the songs are a little different.

38:09 Speaker 5: There are definitely ones that are more improvisatory. But though

38:13 Speaker 5: that's kind of more of like a not a classical

38:16 Speaker 5: guitar song, but kind of a take on the type

38:18 Speaker 5: of classical Yeah.

38:20 Speaker 4: No, it's really nice. It's really nice. And when you

38:23 Speaker 4: write something like that too, I mean, does the idea

38:26 Speaker 4: does that melody kind of come to you first? Or

38:30 Speaker 4: do you sit down and you say I want to

38:32 Speaker 4: write something like this.

38:34 Speaker 5: Most of the time, it's usually me just sitting there

38:36 Speaker 5: with my guitar, even sometimes with my brain like half

38:39 Speaker 5: shut off, like watching something or listening to something else

38:43 Speaker 5: and then I'll just say, oh, I like that, and

38:44 Speaker 5: then I record it and then I kind of just

38:46 Speaker 5: branch upon that.

38:47 Speaker 4: Yeah.

38:48 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean usually the melody does come, but

38:52 Speaker 5: a lot of times I'll have the chord first and

38:54 Speaker 5: then I'll build the melody around the chord progression that

38:58 Speaker 5: that tends to be the way, okay, way that it works.

39:00 Speaker 5: But again, everything that the melody and that like that

39:04 Speaker 5: kind of came really quick, just with some like things

39:07 Speaker 5: I was working on in terms of studying like harmonic

39:12 Speaker 5: without getting to like Barry Harris things, and then it

39:16 Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, this is a cool way to do this,

39:17 Speaker 5: and so that's how the melody came. And even though

39:19 Speaker 5: it's not like a jazz song, like I took jazz

39:22 Speaker 5: harmony ideas to kind of create it. So yeah, yeah,

39:27 Speaker 5: I mean, every every song is different. I I try

39:30 Speaker 5: and I try and do I try and keep it

39:33 Speaker 5: as efficient as possible in songwriting because like a lot

39:36 Speaker 5: of times when I'm producing beats, I would like produce

39:38 Speaker 5: and i'd mix and I produced and a mix and

39:40 Speaker 5: now I try and just produce. Once I get like

39:43 Speaker 5: the song where I want it to be, then I

39:44 Speaker 5: do the mix thing so that I'm not bouncing back forward.

39:46 Speaker 5: Say this is it, It's done, don't don't mess with

39:49 Speaker 5: it after that?

39:50 Speaker 4: Right right? Yeah? What do you what do you play

39:52 Speaker 4: for instruments? Obviously you play guitar and bass. What we

39:55 Speaker 4: else do you play?

39:56 Speaker 5: I mean I play enough piano. I wouldn't say like

40:00 Speaker 5: I'm not like Caleb in terms of playing piano, but

40:01 Speaker 5: I can play piano. I mean like most stringed instruments,

40:06 Speaker 5: I can. I can futs around on on mandolin. I

40:08 Speaker 5: have a tenor guitar that I sometimes play, which is

40:10 Speaker 5: tuning like a violin. But really it's mostly that. I mean,

40:14 Speaker 5: I I messed with drum machines my whole life, so like, yeah,

40:17 Speaker 5: play I have an Akai that I can play drums on.

40:19 Speaker 5: But now most of the stuff I just you know,

40:21 Speaker 5: I'm doing stuff through able to any But yeah, I

40:25 Speaker 5: mean that's really it. I mean again, I'm a I'm

40:27 Speaker 5: a music theory nerd, So theory has been one thing

40:29 Speaker 5: that I've always studied a lot on and never stop learning.

40:33 Speaker 5: And but yeah, I mean really I just try and

40:36 Speaker 5: be as good as at those instruments as I can.

40:40 Speaker 5: Do you teach oh yeah, yeah, I teach uh. I

40:44 Speaker 5: I have one student this year who doesn't play out

40:46 Speaker 5: the majority of the people I teach are actually already

40:49 Speaker 5: gigging musicians. So like people I'm not going to talk about,

40:54 Speaker 5: but there's people who are very regular gigging around here

40:57 Speaker 5: that will come for whether it's a technology lesson, some

41:01 Speaker 5: theory lessons. There's someone who's you know, who's a very

41:05 Speaker 5: well known trio who doesn't have le guitars, so she

41:08 Speaker 5: wants to kind of amplify her legua gitar playing, so

41:10 Speaker 5: stuff like that. Or like someone who plays a lot

41:13 Speaker 5: of solo shows and their arms hurt, they want to

41:15 Speaker 5: get used to how to use a looper where I

41:16 Speaker 5: ad I can like show the tricks and the the trade.

41:20 Speaker 5: So and that's really I don't I grew up giving

41:24 Speaker 5: lessons at my parents' music stop, so I don't want

41:26 Speaker 5: to be like teaching you know, C chords and G

41:28 Speaker 5: chords when there's other things I could be doing. There's

41:31 Speaker 5: definitely a value in that. I don't want to take

41:33 Speaker 5: away from that. Everyone should pick up an instrument, learn it,

41:35 Speaker 5: but absolutely with my time, Like I have a friend

41:38 Speaker 5: from high school I've known forever who I teach. He's

41:40 Speaker 5: an intermediate, doesn't really play out, but I've I got

41:43 Speaker 5: him to come out to an open mic at least.

41:44 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, most of the people are playing in bands

41:46 Speaker 5: and I just kind of want to expand. And then

41:50 Speaker 5: I mean, like even my friends, I like teaching them

41:52 Speaker 5: stuff like like Nick Burns from Cosmic Blossoms. Like his

41:55 Speaker 5: mind's like a sponge. So when I come up with

41:57 Speaker 5: some new idea or I like have a breakthrough harma,

42:00 Speaker 5: I'll send it him and we'll just nerd out about

42:02 Speaker 5: it for a little bit.

42:03 Speaker 4: So, oh that's great. Yeah.

42:04 Speaker 5: I mean that's half the fun too, because like especially him,

42:07 Speaker 5: like I give him some harmonic idea and he'll have

42:09 Speaker 5: a song the next day. That's that's amazing. Oh no today, Yeah,

42:12 Speaker 5: he's great like that.

42:13 Speaker 4: Oh excellent, excellent. Well we are, Yeah, we're approaching the

42:18 Speaker 4: top of the hour, so we do have one more

42:20 Speaker 4: track we're gonna play to finish out. But before we

42:22 Speaker 4: do that, where where should people go online to keep

42:25 Speaker 4: up with everything that you're doing?

42:27 Speaker 5: My Facebook stays pretty active. My Facebook is just Gary Smith.

42:31 Speaker 5: Surprisingly if you just google Gary Smith Facebook on like

42:34 Speaker 5: the first page or two. But I do also have

42:37 Speaker 5: a website gsmithmusic dot com that has all my projects,

42:42 Speaker 5: has a bunch of press, has a bunch of ways

42:44 Speaker 5: to contact and book any of my bands.

42:46 Speaker 4: Yep.

42:48 Speaker 5: And then I do have a few quick little plugs.

42:50 Speaker 4: Yeah.

42:50 Speaker 5: All means by that you also can listen to all

42:52 Speaker 5: my music under percussive maintenance. That's what I released all

42:55 Speaker 5: my music under I released. I was on twenty four

42:58 Speaker 5: different tracks last year, including Fox and Flamingo's Roots Creation,

43:02 Speaker 5: Costic Blossom stuff. Yeah, like I said, I'm playing a

43:06 Speaker 5: brick house tonight. Next cool shows actually with Caleb who

43:09 Speaker 5: was just here. Yeah, playing at the Tupelo with Brad

43:11 Speaker 5: Dubay's blues group because Max Chase, their piano player, can't

43:15 Speaker 5: get it and Caleb usually plays bass, so I'm playing

43:17 Speaker 5: bass with them.

43:17 Speaker 4: Excellent.

43:18 Speaker 5: And then like I said, Cosmic Fox and Flamingos with

43:21 Speaker 5: Phoenix Syndicate, which is a cool funk show that's up

43:23 Speaker 5: at the Bank New Hampshire Stage and conquered on January

43:25 Speaker 5: twenty third. That's going to be a serious, serious fun show.

43:29 Speaker 5: Phoenix Syndicate used to be for side funks, so a

43:31 Speaker 5: bunch of funk people, Okay. And then like said Flying

43:34 Speaker 5: Monkey and Wally's Roots of Creation, speaking of piggybacking on

43:39 Speaker 5: them with the fire for the Vine Street thing. I

43:42 Speaker 5: am running at PCL on February fifteenth, a fundraiser for

43:45 Speaker 5: the Vine Street calling me Vine Street Vibes.

43:47 Speaker 4: Oh cool.

43:48 Speaker 5: Both of those guys will be here, Nick will be there,

43:50 Speaker 5: some other people, so it'll be donations. Everything's going to

43:53 Speaker 5: those guys, obviously excellent. And then the only other ticketed

43:57 Speaker 5: things I have May ninth, Cosmic Blossom is playing at

44:00 Speaker 5: the Andre's Art Institute, Big Bear and Brookline which they

44:03 Speaker 5: redd their sound. That's a real venue. And then me

44:07 Speaker 5: with Scott Solski called seven eight is playing there with

44:09 Speaker 5: Sad Bastard Loose Standards. That's the band they they do

44:17 Speaker 5: like jazzy covers of stuff. That's Mike Effenberger and Chris

44:20 Speaker 5: Claxton to like two well known jazz jazz nerds. So okay, yeah,

44:24 Speaker 5: so those are the cool things coming out. Yeah. G

44:26 Speaker 5: Smith Music Percussive Maintenance and Gary Smith.

44:29 Speaker 4: On Facebook outstanding And what should we know about this?

44:32 Speaker 4: So pedal boat is that the pedal pedal bike is

44:34 Speaker 4: the name pedal bike.

44:35 Speaker 5: This is another original I wrote this one, and I

44:39 Speaker 5: played it with my Cinnamon Jazz trio, which is me,

44:41 Speaker 5: Cinnamon and Joe Virga. But me and Scott Solski and

44:45 Speaker 5: Mike Walts are also in a jazz trio, so we

44:47 Speaker 5: combined forces. Uh So we have Cinnamon on flute, Joe

44:52 Speaker 5: on piano, Me and Scott going back and forth between

44:55 Speaker 5: seven and eight string bass and guitar or seven eight

44:57 Speaker 5: string guitar, and then Mike Walsh on drums. Okay, and yeah,

45:00 Speaker 5: it's just an original. We have three songs like this

45:02 Speaker 5: that are coming out this year. We recorded them in

45:04 Speaker 5: Scott's garage and conquered and yeah, so it was it

45:09 Speaker 5: was a fun thing. These guys are so fun to

45:10 Speaker 5: play with.

45:11 Speaker 4: Fantastic Gary Smith, Thank you so much. Always wonderful to

45:13 Speaker 4: see you and great to see you. Great to see

45:16 Speaker 4: your doing great stuff and as all and keeping very

45:18 Speaker 4: very busy as always. So I think you're probably an

45:20 Speaker 4: inspiration to a lot of musicians who you know, want

45:23 Speaker 4: to really get out there and and you know, just

45:26 Speaker 4: do a lot, you.

45:26 Speaker 5: Know, and and that's what that's what they just get

45:28 Speaker 5: out there, get out there, talk to people. And like

45:30 Speaker 5: I've had people say basically that all the gigs are

45:33 Speaker 5: doing is and like that's what I want. More music

45:36 Speaker 5: in the world. Is nothing wrong with that?

45:39 Speaker 4: Well said, well said, not a competition, exactly exactly all right,

45:43 Speaker 4: thank you Gary. And this is pedal Bike.

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