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4:55 Speaker 11: Welcome everybody, Here we go.

4:56 Speaker 10: We are into our number two you narrow dose of Matt unleashed, our first show of twenty twenty five. Today is Saturday, January fourth, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here as well, of course at the news table.

5:10 Speaker 4: President that account of for and we have joining us a.

5:13 Speaker 10: Live in studio. And again, if you are just joining us, forgive my voice. I'm still recovering from my recent sound kit.

5:20 Speaker 11: I don't think it does.

5:21 Speaker 10: I'm very frustrated my cracking voice, but so recovering again, still recovering from my recent asthma incident.

5:28 Speaker 11: But we have joining us alive in studio. The guys from Scarecrow Hill are here. How are you guys?

5:34 Speaker 8: Welcome, Hello, hello, hello, thank you for having us.

5:37 Speaker 10: Absolutely I'm excited to talk to you. I really love your sound. As we were talking off air, and that track is great? Is that the uh now that's from the new album of course at Death in the Family. Yes, excellent. So why don't we We'll start in the corner here, and if we could just go around the room and you can each tell us who you are, what you do in the band, any other pertinent information. Tyler, I sing okay, Joe lead guitar player, okay, I am Brendan, And I am the drummer.

6:02 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm Joe.

6:03 Speaker 11: I'm the bass player okay. And is it just the four of you?

6:06 Speaker 8: No, we actually dominate our rhythm. Guitar player couldn't be with us, okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, you guys have a big sound.

6:14 Speaker 10: You know what I like about that track too, Like you're not in any hurry to get to the end of it, you know what I mean, Like like that riff just keeps going for a while. And I think that because I think that's kind of a lost thing, Like I don't hear a lot of bit I feel like we live in a time where a lot of bands it's like, you know, I don't know if it's because everybody thinks that people have short attention spans or whatever. But it's like, Okay, a couple of choruses and we'll end it or will fade it out.

6:42 Speaker 10: But you guys kind of take your time with it and groove on that for a while. And I just think that's really cool.

6:47 Speaker 8: We had had a lot of fun coming up with that ending, and we loved the riffs that they did, so we wanted to kind of stretch that out.

6:53 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no, that's really cool. How long has Scarecrow Hill. Scarecrow Hill been around.

7:01 Speaker 8: Three for what matters, since twenty eighteen, okay.

7:06 Speaker 11: Okay, But there was a version of the band that existed before that.

7:11 Speaker 8: There was Joel and I started the band in two thousand and three, okay, okay. We went till about twenty fourteen, and then we had split up, and then at the end of twenty eighteen beginning of twenty nineteen, we got back together with these guys.

7:25 Speaker 11: Oh okay, now what caused the return.

7:30 Speaker 8: Brendan and Joe Okay, we met them and the way they played the music, we were just like, we need to do this again.

7:37 Speaker 10: When when the band ended the first time, after you said, what about a ten year run? Yeah, the first time, did you always kind of know that it would be back some day or was it like, no, that's it.

7:48 Speaker 8: I think we kind of secretly hoped, but we didn't really know what was going to happen either way.

7:54 Speaker 10: Okay, okay, So everything on the new album is the current lineup, the five of you.

8:00 Speaker 11: Yeah, excellent, excellent.

8:02 Speaker 10: Yeah, because I was pretty sure because when when Jenny, you know, Jenny does all the booking for the show, and when she mentioned Scarecrow Hill, I was like, that's a familiar name from like I think back when I was still playing.

8:14 Speaker 11: Yeah, but but I wasn't one hundred percent sure.

8:17 Speaker 10: And then when I saw online it looked you know, I saw the new album, and then I I didn't, like, I didn't find.

8:23 Speaker 11: Does the old material does that survive? Like does or have you left that kind of in that other era.

8:28 Speaker 8: We've tried pretty hard to get rid of that. Yeah, Yeah, there's a there's still one record out there from like twenty twelve. We're pretty alright with that still being around. But oh okay, yeah, everything else I worked pretty hard to its quiet as much as possible.

8:43 Speaker 10: No kidding, so like actively suppressive, like you don't even want oh no kidding. Interesting why is that, Like, do you just feel that the sound has evolved so much?

8:51 Speaker 8: And yeah, just everything about the band like I, like I said, it's when Joel and Dom and I came back to the band and we hooked up with Joe and Brenda here, it was just like we didn't care about the past anymore. It's this, this is our band.

9:05 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, when you I've been in situations like I don't play anymore. I used to be in a bunch of bands, and I've been in situations where, you know, maybe there'd been some sort of a transformation and an evolution, and then there's that that inevitable conversation about do we change.

9:19 Speaker 11: The name or and and I always I remember I was in a specific band.

9:24 Speaker 10: I was in a band called My Life Crisis, and I remember actually having that argument with you know, when we had a big shift in personnel, and uh, the guys kind of wanted to, oh, let's you know, our sound kind of change, let's change the name. And I fought for keeping the name because I was like, well, look, people know us as this. I understand it's a different band kind of, but we've built up this name, not you know, not that we ever got anywhere big or anything. But I but I felt there was value in our name, Like was that was that a conversation amongst you guys do we do we be Scarecrow Hill or or do we do something?

9:53 Speaker 11: Or do we be something new?

9:54 Speaker 8: I don't think we ever even discussed it really really yeah, yeah.

9:59 Speaker 12: Yeah it scare Hill.

10:00 Speaker 13: It was kind of like such a long standing name and entity for for Tie. Yeah, and Tie being kind of our fearless leader. That's like we go as he goes.

10:13 Speaker 11: Yeah. No, and that makes sense.

10:15 Speaker 10: I mean you've got you know, you've got equity in that, you know. So, and like I said, I I remembered it. It was familiar to me when Jenny mentioned, I thought you guys had been around for a while. So no, So I think that makes sense. We're gonna We're gonna play something a little bit later. That's really really interesting in terms of uh, there's there's a bit of a surprise, well a couple of surprises.

10:36 Speaker 11: On the track.

10:36 Speaker 10: But I'm curious about how you describe your sound because you're I mean, obviously, you know you kind of fit in the metal genre broadly, but of course you have all these subgenres and whatnot. But but your your approach, especially from what I was reading online, your your approach is a little bit different in terms of You're not My impression is you're not trying to You're not You're not trying to be one specific thing. You know, You're You're You're Yeah, exactly exactly, you know, because most metal bands do try to be one specific thing.

11:03 Speaker 10: But has that always been your approach to kind of be open to different influences And.

11:09 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, I think absolutely, because when you've got you know, five personalities and five sets of influences and five musical directions that everybody wants to go, I think you kind of have to have the open air for that to happen. And yeah, I'm I'm like the least metal guy in the world. Man, I like the Beatles and Tech nine, you know what I mean like that, So these guys like teach me a lot about the metal genre and the metal community, and we've all kind of had to work together, and it just makes it so that, you know, when Joe puts his stamp on something and then Dominic comes in and Joe and it just it is so many sounds.

11:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, it makes it cool for.

11:49 Speaker 11: Us yeah, does that happen.

11:51 Speaker 10: I assume that happens kind of organically, right, It sounds like it like you don't like you don't say, you know, we need to try to shove this other influence into this song, but it just kind of happened.

12:00 Speaker 8: Yeah.

12:01 Speaker 13: I think it kind of depends, like the way when I'm writing, a lot of the time, I'll be inspired by like a particular song, or like an idea that exists in a song. Sometimes I'll take that as a starting point and kind of like build a demo around that idea. But like the inspiration comes from so many different directions sometimes that like to not have to pigeonhole into like we have to sound like such and such, it's it's kind of freeing in terms of inspirational direction.

12:30 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Your live show too, I would imagine it's pretty energetic, you know, to match.

12:36 Speaker 13: Your Yeah, it's a lot of fun, you know, it's yeah, I'll just leave it at that, trying to keep it radio friendly, but yeah, we have a lot of fun, and we try to keep it very high energy.

12:53 Speaker 5: Yeah.

12:54 Speaker 11: Yeah.

12:54 Speaker 8: The live show too, I think is very very organic. It's we don't there's no choreograph or anything like that. We just kind of go into it knowing that we were with our team, Like we just see what happens. Yeah, start to rock out, man, like a little bit of old school in the new school.

13:09 Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.

13:11 Speaker 10: When you guys play out, do you do you have opportunities to play with bands that you played.

13:15 Speaker 8: With like way back in the day or shockingly yes, I.

13:19 Speaker 10: Suspected as much because I can tell you just doing this, I'll while we've had guests on the show or or talk to people about coming on to I'm like I didn't even know.

13:30 Speaker 11: Wow, Like I remember doing shows with them like twenty years ago and there and they're back. That's really cool. Like who are some of the bands that you guys get to play with that you played with back then?

13:39 Speaker 8: So a lot of times it might not even be necessarily be a whole band, but like even just last night we got to play over here at the Shaskiing, which what a great little room. That was a lot of fun. Oh yeah I love them, yeah, oh yeah, what a great place. And but so Rags the Stitches shout out to our boys from New Hampshire. Uh, they put the show on nice and their their bass player is a guy that we have been playing with in different bands. I mean since me and Joel were kids, Like we we grew up playing shows with this guy.

14:11 Speaker 8: And yeah, he's still out there doing a whistle out. They're doing it twenty years later. So like it's there's a lot of that. A lot of bands unfortunately don't stay around as long, but right the musicians do, and we'll we'll get out there and get to see this guy. Oh, he used to be in this band that we toured with and that that stuff's a lot of fun. It's really cool.

14:28 Speaker 11: Oh, that's really cool. Did we have Rex's stitches? Did we have them on you remember? I feel like we did.

14:34 Speaker 4: I'm not positive.

14:35 Speaker 11: I'd have to go back and look. I think we might have.

14:37 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:37 Speaker 12: If not, you should, yeah definitely if you haven't, or.

14:40 Speaker 10: Or the name has come up on this show, maybe that might be the name might have come up on the show before. Yeah, are you guys playing out a lot?

14:47 Speaker 8: Or yeah? Yeah, we've been very very busy.

14:50 Speaker 11: Good, very nice, excellent, excellent? And how long has this album been out? This is this is pretty new right.

14:57 Speaker 12: Uh yeah, July August something like that, less than a year. More than a month.

15:02 Speaker 11: Okay, okay, cool? Where do you record?

15:06 Speaker 8: We do it?

15:06 Speaker 10: You know, that's awesome because it sounds like I'm always curious, you know, because we live in a time where you've got so many different options in terms of how you record, and there's so many great studios around, but you can also do it yourself and it sounds like it was recorded in a million dollar studio, you know. Thanks, So it's really impressive, Like like, do you have a home studio? Does one of you have a home studio set up or what's what's the approach?

15:33 Speaker 13: We kind of each of us has our own little setup at home where well, we'll do some demos, but when it comes time to like actually cut the final thing, we have a decent setup at the band, like our practice space where we track everything in and then once that's all done, we take it to our guy Joe Clapp, who's got like a really nice professional studio and he mixes it and masters it for us.

15:59 Speaker 11: Oh fantas as Okay, Yeah, it's cool that that you're able to do it that way.

16:05 Speaker 10: You know, I'm old enough to remember, and some of you might be when you know your only options were really you know like you could.

16:13 Speaker 11: Yeah, you can record demos at home on your.

16:15 Speaker 10: Task and you know, and then but then, yeah, then go spend a ton of money in a studio to do everything there.

16:22 Speaker 13: And me and Brennan were joking on the way over here because we rode together and we're a couple of years younger than the rest of the guys in the band. Yeah, we were joking about I I had mentioned before how one of the early scarecrow Hill demos was done on an answering machine. How far it's come in the way that you can get like really high quality recordings at home for like a pretty relatively affordable price compared to even like five or ten years ago, where it was the barrier to entry was so high.

16:55 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh that's funny though, the answering machine. That makes sense.

17:01 Speaker 8: I'm going to the public library and running off covers for the cassette tapes Dublin, No kidding, it was, you know, there was no distribution around here that anybody can afford or anything back, right exactly exactly. If you knew a band that had CDs, they were like big times yea, even.

17:19 Speaker 11: Over the course of the years just.

17:22 Speaker 10: Doing this well I've I've been at w M n H for it'll be eight years in April, but I've been interviewing bands for a lot longer. And we were talking talking to somebody last week on the show about how when I first started doing this, like bands would usually show up with a CD.

17:38 Speaker 8: You know.

17:38 Speaker 10: Now, of course you can just email everything, but and the move was was very often it would be, you know, just like a CDR with sharpie written on it. You know, these are the songs we want to feature on the show. And they they'd handed to me on their finger. It wouldn't even be in a case. And yeah, those were those were the days. Yeah, we actually have I don't use it, but we we do have a functioning CD play.

18:00 Speaker 8: Here's awesome.

18:01 Speaker 12: Yeah, I love that.

18:02 Speaker 11: One of the guys, Rob, I don't know if you know Rob as a veto.

18:05 Speaker 10: He owes a show here called Granted State of Mind and he uses occasionally, but but he's kind of old school with that.

18:10 Speaker 11: But the new album is it available on CD or is it only on streaming platforms?

18:14 Speaker 8: This one is only on streaming platforms. We have three other records that we take physical copies out on the road with us but this is the one we wanted to try just just to see first. Yeah, how it did is digital only, and figured maybe if if it keeps doing as well as it's doing, we'll probably end up doing some physical copies.

18:31 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I want to play. So I surprise you guys with this.

18:37 Speaker 10: I made a radio edit of this track that Little Voice featuring Adam Ramie partly well. So a couple things about it that that really grabbed me. One is I just find the subject very relatable, you know, talking about that that little voice that so many of us have in our heads that tries to kind of drag us down and tell us a lot of negative things, negative so talk and all that. So I think a lot of people can really relate to the lyrics. The other thing that's really interesting to me is what's going on in the chorus, which is very unusual and it's it's cool.

19:12 Speaker 10: I was like, what, oh, that's interesting and it's got and and tell me about uh but we'll talk about that part after we play it. But tell me tell me too about Adam Raymie.

19:23 Speaker 8: Adam. Adam is amazing.

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19:26 Speaker 8: Adam is one of the vocalists for the band Dropout Kings, okay, and he's said the range that this man has where he can you know, he does the dirty vocals, screaming stuff. He does these absolutely beautiful, powerful lead vocals. And then we had, uh, we've done a few shows together over the years, and we had talked a few times about doing a track. So when I sent him this, he said, well, you know, what are you going to do with it? I said, we trust you, like you know your your range is ridiculous. And this was the last thing we were expecting.

19:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, said, we were like, wow, this is all right, Like he went different with this and we were super excited about it. But he's just one of those guys that he can do anything, and he's so much fun to work with on this.

20:07 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.

20:08 Speaker 10: So this is of course from the new album, but Death of the Family will give this a spind uh. This is called that Little Voice featuring Adam Raby and this is Scarecrow Hill.

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20:32 Speaker 3: I should ever reclady, who's ever reason God'll taking another thing problem me? You just can't just stand on a plattlefield but I keep telling you want of my boots have been money. The biggest surprise of my entire life is still that I managed to walk in my twenties, no matter how hard that I'm working, no matter how much I have risen apaw, Why here these whistles ada.

20:47 Speaker 4: In my ear telling me that my best is a lucky enough.

20:49 Speaker 3: So I keep pushing and fighting them, sucking this hole and everybody should jack When I dug, then he tell me a lot in voices.

20:54 Speaker 4: They tell me that I should just quitn't give up.

20:56 Speaker 1: I swear to God sometimes in my head all I hear where.

20:58 Speaker 4: The ghost of my past to tell you? If there's no said, why it doesn't exist?

21:02 Speaker 3: When you're heart my God, every day my brain you're telling let me define When my muther on some day stopped me in the back, I feel my whole.

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21:44 Speaker 3: I got these voices inside of my head telling me I can never be saved. And if I keep talking, and if I keep trying, I'm gonna find myself in the inner of the grave. But that's okay, because I got another one telling me nobody cares any weighing if I got tomorrow, they don't bring no sorrow.

21:55 Speaker 4: No one will even remember my name.

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22:11 Speaker 4: I got the voice in the back of my mind telling me that I'll never be I got the voice.

22:15 Speaker 1: In the back of my mind, and I had got something of my stris free jing my mind keep telling me everything out.

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23:01 Speaker 4: I remember the way that you whooked at me in the beginning. I hate that it's gone. The truth of the matter is this.

23:06 Speaker 3: Sporable situation is going on too wrong. I wish that somebody had to make I told me I was losing my sulf before I was lost. I get the toist in my head telling me that the shadows I'm seeing no rail. My brain is almost by you in my heart because I cannot trust what I feel. I keep the weight on my shoulders to myself, the same way the weight on my hippos can zeal. Sometimes I get in the proof and I met it all all, but you know I'm rinking the seal.

23:25 Speaker 4: I get the voice in the back of my mind and we're.

23:27 Speaker 5: Trying to killing it shot.

23:28 Speaker 4: I get the voice in the back of my mind, and I hate that.

23:31 Speaker 1: Mother of great game my brain. You're telling me y'all that I have to refoward to its more regrets. I said, I'm a whole. I've just been in the sert because because I can't get the coulf out of my ship.

23:38 Speaker 14: No choruses shoes shoes.

24:14 Speaker 2: I got a let up by.

24:17 Speaker 5: My head. I have got a nice ship that try.

24:23 Speaker 1: You don't even recognize this man.

24:25 Speaker 2: Cough, guy had shot up.

24:28 Speaker 5: I had a let up by so many voices in my head. It's not a guy.

24:32 Speaker 2: I would shut up.

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24:36 Speaker 2: Try this gag.

24:41 Speaker 10: That is that little voice featuring Adam Raimi and the band is a Scarecrow Hill with us in the studio this morning.

24:48 Speaker 11: Yeah, so tell me about that, guys, tell me about that chorus, like, because that was was that something Adam did?

24:55 Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, we did that, Yeah, we did. We had sent him the basic demo with the track and I hadn't even laid my vocals yet. Yeah, like he had just you know, what do you want to do it? So we trust you man, Like obviously we're fans and we know the things you're capable of. And yeah, he sent that back and he was like, you know, I hope you dig it. He's like, because I love this. He's like, I think it's one of one of my favorite features I've done. And I was so taken back by it. I was like, wow, I'm going to rewrite everything I had because like I need my stuff to be cooler.

25:24 Speaker 8: Now.

25:24 Speaker 11: Oh okay, so that caused you to read your part?

25:28 Speaker 3: Yeah?

25:28 Speaker 10: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, the chorus is I think we were talking about it off air. It's like nothing I've ever heard. It's it's it's it's such a unique sound.

25:37 Speaker 11: And uh now, Joe, you were saying too, so what do you the genre that.

25:41 Speaker 8: That you call?

25:42 Speaker 2: Uh?

25:42 Speaker 13: Yeah, so we were talking about genre before. I think if if for Scarecrow Hill, if you were kind of to nail it down to something, we kind of used the tagline hip hop death rock.

25:50 Speaker 11: Okay.

25:51 Speaker 13: So Ty especially has a lot of like hip hop influences. So you know, in a song like that, you can hear the rapping and that. That's a lot of the songs that we do have a lot of like hip hop influence to it. So we try to have like, you know, a groove and a bounce to a lot of you know, while it might be a heavy riff, you know, it can be broken down into a groove that grooves.

26:15 Speaker 11: Yeah.

26:15 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, no, well put yeah, no that makes sense to me. No, that's that's a great Do you play that live or is it hard to do without?

26:23 Speaker 8: Uh we we haven't.

26:24 Speaker 12: Yeah, we haven't played that one live.

26:26 Speaker 5: Yeah.

26:26 Speaker 11: Yeah, no, that's that's really good.

26:30 Speaker 10: Also another track maybe we'll play it at the end of if we have time, But you do a cover on this that I that I really like on the new album, of course we should mention again a death in the family.

26:40 Speaker 11: We're in this together now.

26:41 Speaker 10: And I remember looking at the track list and I was like, I wonder if that's an original or if that's a nine Inch Nails cover. And I listened to it, and uh, man, you sing the hell out of that, thank you. Yeah, It's really like there's there's an emotion to it. There's almost like a like a desperation that comes across in your vocal. I don't know if that's what you're going for, probably, but.

27:01 Speaker 8: I mean it, it happens. I've I've actually heard that several times about several songs that we do. Yeah, which I think is I take that as as a pretty huge compliment because I've never been one of those guys that can like just sing a cover song. Yeah, it's gotta be something that really resonates with me. It's got to be something that like means something.

27:21 Speaker 11: Yeah. No, I was playing it, it was like, Wow, you know, I really really feel this. You know, was that challenging to sing?

27:29 Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean yes, and no, it's uh, yes, in the fact that like it. It's you know, it's pretty up there and it's a hard song in general. But yeah, personally, Trent Reznor has been like one of my biggest vocal influences ever. Yeah, and I've been singing that song for as long as I can remember. Yeah, when I finally get to get into the booth with it, and I was like, wow, all right, like this is this is gonna be awesome. Yeah.

27:53 Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I came out great. It came out great.

27:57 Speaker 10: Is there any kind of a theme to the album? I mean, you know, it's got a pretty ominous title of Death in the Family. I'm curious about does the title have any meaning specifically and is there a theme to this?

28:06 Speaker 8: To this album, we had gone through a small lineup change.

28:12 Speaker 8: We had so since twenty eighteen, we did a trilogy of records not Dead Yet, Never Say Die and Until Death and that was our It's just kind of about everything that was going on at the time, and as well as kind of like a not necessarily a promise or an oath or something, but something that we did for each other, like this, this is it, this is what we're going to do. Yeah, And we for a while we're a six member band in that fizzled away and that became a death in the family as a way to just kind of put closure on that chapter.

28:48 Speaker 11: Oh okay, and.

28:48 Speaker 8: Then the things that we we have come in now are moving on to the next chapter.

28:53 Speaker 11: Okay.

28:54 Speaker 8: So this band was a six piece at one point. Yeah, for wow, what did the other member do? The little percussion, some backup vocals. It's kind of an auxiliary, remember, yeah, which which was fun. It was a it was a great thing to have. But I think all it really did was just kind of solidify our five member band and yeah, kind approved to us that we didn't necessarily need anybody else there.

29:19 Speaker 10: With us, right right, Yeah, I mean, I know from my own experience, it's it's hard. It can be hard enough, you know, like with a five piece or even a four piece, it can be hard enough trying to work with everyone's schedules and everyone's you know, everyone's got lives and and you know, and trying to book shows and everything.

29:37 Speaker 11: So I can only imagine with a six piece what that was like.

29:41 Speaker 10: Some of the it's funny, uh, you know, we have a lot of singer songwriters on the show, and very often there are people who used to play in bands who you know, got they get to a point where it's it's it just becomes too much to manage. So then they decide to do their own thing, you know, and and just and not have to deal with all the Somebody somebody said to me, I forget who it was who said it on the show, that being in a band with four other people is like being in four relationships. It's like is like or is like being in a relationship with four other people who are all in a relationship with four other people.

30:15 Speaker 12: That is true.

30:17 Speaker 10: I wish I could remember who said it so I could give them credit. But I thought it was a great I thought it was a great insight. But you guys have a lot going on with you know, you're you're playing a lot, and I mean, is it hard to is it hard to manage all that with with with a five piece band?

30:32 Speaker 8: Or I think it would be more difficult if we weren't as tight knit. Yeah, But the fact that you know, like these this is we're a team. Yeah, and we worked very hard to make sure that you know, maybe we can't grab every opportunity like today with Dominic not being able to be here, but Dominic also very much understood and you know, you know, you guys go do this. I have to do some other things right now. Yeah, And that's usually the way it always goes, is we work very hard to make sure that it's amicable for everyone and that we're amicable to everything.

31:05 Speaker 8: Might not be a show. Joe's crazy about playing, but he you know, he believes in his band and he's here for his band, so we can make that work right.

31:13 Speaker 13: And I think another thing too is that you know, I've been in bands before where and you know, it's just like ty said, with a team dynamic on like a sports team or in a lot of situations, there's you know, leadership and there's not followers, but like people who look up to the leader. And Tye being the leader, he does the booking, he has the majority of the connections, and he kind of sets the schedule for us. We've all kind of committed Sunday, you know, Sunday afternoons is band day. That's when we get together, that's when we practice, we talk about band business, and then we've got a group calendar that you know, if there's a date that anybody can't do something, we put it in the group calendar and then other than that.

31:57 Speaker 12: It's basically free reign.

31:59 Speaker 13: Yeah, time knows to you know, he does right by us and not booking something that's gonna totally you.

32:07 Speaker 12: Know, derail derail everybody's.

32:11 Speaker 13: Lives because you know, as much as we'd all love to be the full time touring bands and everything, it's it's so hard to get to that level.

32:20 Speaker 12: So yeah, we get day jobs.

32:21 Speaker 11: Yeah, of course, of course.

32:23 Speaker 10: Do you guys like, how how far do you go in terms of when you're playing shows, Like you said, you're playing a lot.

32:28 Speaker 11: You get out of New England, do you go?

32:30 Speaker 8: We'll go wherever we'll have us. Yeah, we just we want to get out to as many people as possible with We love new venues, we love new bands, we love all the things that we were very lucky enough to get to do. So anywhere that will have us, we are we are glad to go.

32:45 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Where does the name come from, by the way, Scarecrow Hill.

32:49 Speaker 8: So that we have been we have ended this question for so long, So Scarecrow It was actually when when we were very first trying to start this band, we had had a different name and everything, and we had written kind of like this mission statement. It was like partial lyrics, partial, just eighteen year old bravado. And yeah, we had used the term scarecrow hill as a metaphor because you know, scarecrows are they're they're warning. It's like to stay away from somewhere. It's to keep you out of something, and hills are like steep and hard decline, and so we used scarecrow Hill as a metaphor of like, we need to get past a scarecrow hill into the music business.

33:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's actually my mom looked at us and was like, that's your band name, Like, that's that's what your band name should be. Yeah, we're all right, we'll give it a shot. It's different.

33:43 Speaker 11: Yeah, right, And it's speaking of moms, high moms. Yes, time moms. What was what was the Do you want to say.

33:52 Speaker 8: What the name was before you say we were called standing Room?

33:55 Speaker 10: Because I love hearing about rejected band names the standing Room? Why why didn't you? Why didn't you stick with that?

34:02 Speaker 8: Honestly, just like I said when she was like, scarecrow Hill is a better band name. It does sound kind of cool.

34:07 Speaker 11: Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do think it's a better name than standing room.

34:10 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no doubt.

34:14 Speaker 10: Well let's oh boy, my voice is cracking. Let's do this, which is the perfect time to do this because we were talking about it. Let's play uh, let's play wearing this together now. I just I'm so amazed by this. Now, Who's because obviously this this is not the full band on this track, So who else is playing?

34:29 Speaker 11: Who else is doing what.

34:30 Speaker 8: On this cloud? Yeah? So myself and our our other producer, Joe Clap, did a lot of stuff, and then there was a lady that we had reached out to a couple of years back actually to get some of the original piano pieces, and we just kind of combined everything and then he and I sat in the booth and did a lot a lot of additional piano and the strings and all that kind of stuff.

34:56 Speaker 10: And yeah, no, it's really impressive. I'm eager to play it. Let's give this a listen if you're just joining us. Scarecrow Hill is with us here in studio this morning, and this is their cover of nine Inch Nails.

35:09 Speaker 11: This is called We're in This Together now.

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36:22 Speaker 16: Everything seems mad more virtue all you lose, all you used.

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37:17 Speaker 5: Until the very end of you.

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37:33 Speaker 2: To get the vegus in.

37:35 Speaker 17: Whether they're gonna kill what we found, well, they're gonna hate what they fear.

37:39 Speaker 8: Well, they're gonna make it go away, while they're gonna.

37:42 Speaker 4: Make it disappear.

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38:51 Speaker 18: All that we were is gone.

38:54 Speaker 14: We have to hold on.

39:00 Speaker 4: Without all hobbies gone.

39:03 Speaker 12: We had to hold on.

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39:18 Speaker 17: Join man wearing this togethern.

39:26 Speaker 5: No that can stop us.

39:27 Speaker 2: Now we will make it through some time.

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40:28 Speaker 11: That's so good.

40:29 Speaker 10: I didn't even want to talk over that slow fade at the end. I was like, no, I got to give that a few more seconds. That's intense.

40:34 Speaker 11: That is so good. Scarecrow Hill is here with us in studio if you are.

40:39 Speaker 10: Just joining us, and that is their cover of We're in This Together Now by Nine Inch Nails and yeah, great, great job on that.

40:47 Speaker 11: What do you guys, uh, what do you guys have coming up?

40:50 Speaker 10: In terms of are you are you already working on material for I know this album just came out, but you know, you strike me as guys who probably have a lot of ideas, probably already working on some new stuff.

41:02 Speaker 8: We're pretty much constantly anytime we put anything out, we'll give it a few months and really hone in on the live part of the show and things that we gotta do. But I think genuinely we enjoy writing together so much that we just we never stopped it. Yeah, we we just came finished and started polishing a new track a week ago.

41:26 Speaker 7: Yeah.

41:26 Speaker 19: Well, that's like the exciting part because I'm speaking for myself, I'm kind of the impatient type. So pretty much even before we put an album out, we're already kind of looking at the next next new material that we're going to be writing, and we're looking at ways, really how one we can improve into how we can I'm just moving forward, but what we can do to evolve our sound, which you know, I think it's awesome, and.

41:57 Speaker 12: There's a lot of a lot of time. There's enough time.

41:59 Speaker 13: But between when you're done writing a batch of songs for a record and the time that that comes out, that between that you're already I mean personally, sometimes I get a little fatigued from like the writing and recording process. So like to have like maybe even just like a month to kind of like forget about it is good. Yeah, But even still, like once we're done with the writing and recording, even before the next one comes out, it's a lot of the time it's already creative juices are flowing for the next thing.

42:28 Speaker 19: Yeah, no doubt exactly, And honestly, it comes to the most random times. I always joke around like some of the best ideas coming to me in the shower of all. Yeah, and you know, if that's the case, it could be a day after we put out the new album and already putting down new ideas. Sometimes you're listening to the final mix of the album and you're like, oh, a really.

42:50 Speaker 11: Good idea, you know.

42:51 Speaker 19: All right, Yeah, it's always an evolving process. And that's the thing I think I love most about it.

42:56 Speaker 12: I think we do. I shouldn't even speak for myself, we all do.

43:00 Speaker 10: Any of the songs that you guys are working on d end up playing them out live before before they've been recorded.

43:04 Speaker 11: Usually them, Yeah, no, but sometimes yeah.

43:08 Speaker 13: Yeah, there's usually like if we put out a record that I mean, the first three of the tri that trilogy that was that I was talking about earlier was the start of that was the beginning of this iteration of the lineup. So since then there was always like one or two or three that were like the ones that we knew were would go over well live and those were always the ones that we took out and played first before anything came out.

43:34 Speaker 11: Okay, yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

43:38 Speaker 10: And then uh, so so, even though obviously we're in winter, a lot of bands kind of slowed down with the live shows, but it sounds like, are you guys going to be continuing to play through the winter?

43:48 Speaker 8: Uh? Yeah, so we've got we've got a few more this month, and then we're actually we're taking our first break from live shows in almost three years. Wow. We're taking the month of February to kind of go home and reassess and rehune in on some things and and get some things lined back up. But then I mean, right, the first week in March, we're right back at it. We're back out of there.

44:12 Speaker 11: So excellent.

44:13 Speaker 8: Nice to have a little time off, but I'm glad it's the shortest month.

44:17 Speaker 11: Right right, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

44:19 Speaker 10: Well, it seems like you have a lot of momentum and uh, you know, like I said, the album is great. And then, by the way, do you guys do any covers live other than I don't, like, I don't know really, I'm just all I was curious. I always say you can kind of tell tell a little bit about a band's influences by the covers that they do. But you guys have such an interesting sound and such a disparate influences anyway, that which I think is really cool. Is there anybody in the scene, by the way, that you play a lot of shows with?

44:49 Speaker 10: You know, sometimes it happens organically, you just end up sort of teaming up unofficially with bands and like like like.

44:56 Speaker 4: Who who who around here?

44:57 Speaker 11: Do you guys play a lot with?

44:59 Speaker 8: Well, I mean, like, like we said, we get Rags of Stitches right here in New Hampshire.

45:03 Speaker 10: Oh, I finally remembered. Now why Jenny, you know why that Dave is so familiar. We saw them at a Spelfy fest.

45:11 Speaker 11: Rags of Stitches was there. That's why. Okay, so yeah, we will get them on. I'm sorry, I mean but yeah, so you.

45:16 Speaker 8: Know we love those and I mean there's fear of the Masses out of Connecticut or you know, good Buddies of ours that we play with a lot.

45:23 Speaker 11: That's a name I've heard.

45:24 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're They're phenomenal.

45:26 Speaker 12: The Great Curtain. Shout out the Great Curtain.

45:28 Speaker 11: Oh I love we had the Great Curtain on the show. Great band.

45:31 Speaker 12: Yeah, great band.

45:32 Speaker 11: Dennis Layton is.

45:33 Speaker 12: Great, one of the one of the greatest humans you will ever meet.

45:36 Speaker 10: Oh, he's awesome and another guy who too, like really tries to do something different, yes, like really unique.

45:42 Speaker 11: Oh love love that band.

45:44 Speaker 13: You cannot say that he is not one hundred percent himself when he's doing what he's doing. He's not trying to be anything else other than that.

45:51 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

45:53 Speaker 8: It's one of the things that we all really seem to love and enjoy about the New England scene is uh, there isn't a whole lot of competition going on like in some scenes around. It's much more of a teamwork thing that a lot of bands that are friends, a lot of bands.

46:11 Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, Rising Tide lifts all ships.

46:13 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

46:14 Speaker 8: And we'll go play this show, you know, down in the middle of nowhere, Connecticut, and there's ten bands on the bill and eight of them are bands that we've played twenty five shows with. Yeah, I me and guys that we're like genuinely looking forward to seeing. Right. It makes it a lot of fun, It makes it very cool.

46:31 Speaker 5: Yeah.

46:31 Speaker 10: I always feel like, you know, music is very much people are supportive of each other. I always kind of contrast it with stand up comedy because I listen to some podcasts where you know, you've got these stand up comics who talk about about that industry, and my impression is that in stand up comedy everyone is very cutthroat and everyone kind of secretly hates each other. And I feel like music is the opposite of that. Like in music, I mean, don't get me wrong, there are sharks and there are cutthroat people in the music industry too, obviously, but I think generally musicians to really support each other, try to support each other and uplift everybody.

47:05 Speaker 10: So I so I think that's that's really cool. And then do you guys, what do you guys have coming up? Do you have any shows this weekend that you're playing that you want to plug?

47:13 Speaker 8: We have, so on January fifteenth, we're actually at the Worcester Palladium with Dropout Kings and the Browning Okay, which we're very much looking forward to. Excellent, And then yeah, we get gosh And on the seventeenth, we're in our hometown, which is a rare thing but an awesome thing. We love getting to play there.

47:34 Speaker 11: Where is that?

47:36 Speaker 8: That's at a place called the New World Tavern in Plymouth, mass.

47:39 Speaker 13: Excellent, one of the coolest venues in that section of Massachusetts. Yeah, for sure, it's like a very like when you go in the front, it's a very unassuming tavern looking place, but you go down this little hallway to the back and there's probably like a two hundred person venue with a nice stage sound set up.

47:55 Speaker 12: It's it's pretty awesome.

47:56 Speaker 8: They treat us very well.

47:58 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Well, guys, the time goes so quick.

48:02 Speaker 10: We're already approaching the top of the hour and I am going to play to end the segment this track Wasting Time.

48:08 Speaker 11: Another great, great song.

48:09 Speaker 10: I really like this one a lot from the new album of Death in the Family from Scarecrow Hill. But before we let you go to what should our listeners know about where to keep up with everything that you're doing online?

48:19 Speaker 11: Where's the best place to go?

48:21 Speaker 8: I mean, just like anybody else man where we have the Instagram, Facebook, any anywhere there's a band begging for attention, We're on there.

48:29 Speaker 12: You go, there, you go?

48:30 Speaker 11: All right, guys, thank you so much.

48:32 Speaker 10: If you are listening live on Saturday morning, we've got let's see.

48:38 Speaker 11: Oh I'm sorry, who do we have? It's oh slim slim volume. Sorry, good blanking.

48:44 Speaker 4: You turned me off again, didn't you?

48:45 Speaker 10: I did, I think, well, I have an excuse now because of the asthma. The oxygen's not getting to my brain. So slim volume is coming up next if you are listening live on Saturday. But we're going to end this hour with another great track from Scarecrow Hill from the album of Death in the Family.

49:02 Speaker 11: This is called wasting Time. And guys, thank you again. This has been thank you for having me.

49:06 Speaker 12: Thank you absolutely and a lot of fun.

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