Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-12-24 hour 2

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8:32 Speaker 6: But this is Matt.

8:33 Speaker 12: Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM, Inglorious a Manchester in New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, October twelve, twenty twenty four, and Gary Smith is here with us live and studio. And Gary, you were here just recently with jam.

8:51 Speaker 6: Tomorrow yepp, not too long ago with MHP and Mark Yeah.

8:56 Speaker 12: Yeah, So I was listening to I was playing back the interview and one of the songs that you guys played live. I forget which one it was, but for one thing, I love watching you play because you play it's an eight string, right, Yeah, it's an eight string guitar, so it's basically like you're playing. It looks like you're playing guitar. Well, it sounds like you're playing guitar and bass at the same time. And one of the songs I'm listening to, I'm listening to your playing and it's almost like, you know, you're going back and forth, you know, between the bass notes and the guitar notes, and it's like it's almost like you're having a conversation.

9:31 Speaker 12: I don't know if if if that's how you've ever thought of it, or if anyone's ever pointed that out before, but I realized it's like it's like the two it's it really does sound like two instruments having a conversation. And I was fascinated by that.

9:45 Speaker 6: I like that. Yeah, I mean that's kind of the goal.

9:47 Speaker 13: Ultimately, you know, it's kind of be like a left and the right hand of the piano, so they're kind of working together but still kind of complimenting each other along the way.

9:54 Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's kind of the goal.

9:58 Speaker 12: Tell us about that track we just played emo EMU Yeah, sorry.

10:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's mine speaking of birds.

10:04 Speaker 12: There's nothing there's nothing emo about it.

10:07 Speaker 6: I don't know why.

10:07 Speaker 12: I don't know why I said that, but yeah.

10:09 Speaker 13: It's actually funny. The name came from a yeah, stupid there. It's that kind of sounded like the old Weather Report song Birdland.

10:17 Speaker 6: Uh. And I'm like, oh, it's a bird emo. Yeah.

10:19 Speaker 13: Yeah, songs an E minor so yeah. But but yeah, I know that's a song I wrote probably earlier this year.

10:26 Speaker 6: Uh.

10:26 Speaker 13: And me and Bob and Ryan who were playing guitar and drums on that track. I've played it a bunch of times. I do it my solo set too. Yeah, I played, I had a little piano for texture, I played, you know, bass and guitar. Bob added some guitar, and then last minute we added my friend Brian Murphy on the trumpet.

10:44 Speaker 12: Yea, I love bob solo at the end. Oh yeah, when that comes in, that's so good.

10:50 Speaker 13: It's just such a perfect I just said, just reread because mine's all like jazzy and nerdy and then yeah, and then I just want him to just reread and he does.

10:57 Speaker 6: It's perfect.

10:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, the contrasts of it and the texture that it adds to the song. When you can do that, when you can add like that kind of solo into something where it sounds different but it still fits so perfectly, you know, it's it's yeah, what a great track. And we're gonna we're gonna play some others too that you said today, that everything that you sent me, it's all different. It's all you know, like there's a hip hop track which I love, and there's every everything's different. Are these all? Are these all on one album?

11:25 Speaker 12: Are they all available on one album?

11:26 Speaker 13: Yeah, there's an album that you can pre order on band camp. It's gonna be streaming on band camp on.

11:32 Speaker 6: Monday.

11:33 Speaker 13: I'm actually at one o'clock they're doing I'm doing a pre listening party at Pembroke City Limits Excellent stream it. A bunch of people from the bands and a bunch of other people are coming, so it should be fun.

11:44 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's going on band camp fourteenth.

11:47 Speaker 13: I'm pressing vinyls, T shirts, stickers, all kinds of fun stuff, cool car picks for all my guitar nerd friends. And then it'll be on all the other streaming services on the twenty eighth of October. Okay, oh yeah, it's under my name that I produced hip hop under percussive maintenance. So even though all there's a lot of guitar stuff, and there's lots of you know, basically sixteen different other musicians that I regularly play with that are on there. Yeah, getting three hip hop songs, some instrumental stuff, solo guitar stuff, so it's it's really all all over the place.

12:19 Speaker 6: Yeah. Uh.

12:20 Speaker 13: DJ Myth, the DJ from Manchester or from rapa Nite Manchester, he added sub scratches to some of songs, so really it's all it's all over the place.

12:27 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. I worked with DJ Myth like years and years ago. We were both involved in a project called well, it was called Project Hybrid okay, and it was this hip hop group where it was like there were these these two people who were at the center of it who were always there, Danny Dragon who was a singer and a Ryan the Rebel, who was a rapper, and they were always there, but the other musicians would kind of improvise and it was just whoever was available. So if I was available, I would show up and play bass and that's awesome.

12:56 Speaker 12: If myth was available, he would.

12:57 Speaker 6: Be there and his thing.

12:58 Speaker 8: Yeah I was.

12:59 Speaker 12: Yeah, that was a great time. Yeah, he's a great guy. I haven't talked him in so long, but yeah, he's a very very talented.

13:04 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've known him for a long time.

13:05 Speaker 13: We started learning how to make beats on ableton at least probably like twelve years ago from the same dude. And oh no kidding, Yeah, he just went down the turntable road and I went down the other road. Yeah.

13:18 Speaker 6: No, we've known each other.

13:19 Speaker 9: For a while.

13:20 Speaker 12: And tell us again about so Pembroke City Limits, what are you doing there exactly?

13:25 Speaker 13: So basically, there's a pre listening party for my album. So I'm going to stream the whole album there at pember City today one and it's also going to be available on band camp.

13:35 Speaker 6: You can listen to it stream on band camp for that.

13:37 Speaker 12: And that's happening. That's happening today.

13:38 Speaker 6: That's happening today. Yeah, busy day, coming here, done doing that.

13:41 Speaker 13: And then I'm going up and debuting one of the songs at base Side Bowl tonight, the hip hop song that's on there with Ben Shore who may be calling in at some point here. Yeah, Portland rapper lives in Philly now, but yeah, so that'll be cool.

14:00 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, it is a busy day.

14:01 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but uh.

14:03 Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's again the albums all over the place, so I should be all of it again. Like, you know, i played with the jazz trio earlier this week, and I'm playing with a hip hop artist this week, which is, you know, kind of how how it works for me, which is why I'm a you know, my album's all over the place.

14:18 Speaker 6: In the same way, have you.

14:19 Speaker 12: Always throughout your your career up to this point, have you always been really diverse in terms of what kinds of music and different genres that you get involved.

14:29 Speaker 13: In For the most part, I mean I I go down rabbit holes, so like I know way too much about hip hop, way too much about jazz, and then like some of the other stuff just adjacently, like some of this stuff like Mazy you'll suggest in Fox and Flamenco's like I've never heard of this band, but I like it.

14:44 Speaker 6: It's cool.

14:44 Speaker 13: It's just I've never you know, But yeah, I'll play with any anyone, any anything, Like I have fun just playing and especially if it's somewhat you know, improvisatory or just like the writing process. I love like writing music and making music. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the fun part of it, you know, no matter what it is. I play Bad Burger on Thursdays. We do a jam there and we just you know, play Zeppelin songs, play like. So it's again completely different. I play you know, pull Train the night before and then Zeppelin the next day.

15:16 Speaker 13: So it's just how my music has been and you know, my my confused algorithms.

15:21 Speaker 12: All over the world. You play a lot too. I was looking at your schedule on your website.

15:25 Speaker 6: You play a lot. Yeah.

15:27 Speaker 13: I'm trying to play as much as I can. It's you know, I'm in a few different projects, and then i have my solo jazz thing, so I'm always I'm always doing something either at Pembroke or like Nolins or you know, there's a bunch of bunch of places.

15:40 Speaker 6: I do my little solo show thing at Milford. I do a few places.

15:44 Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah, So there are a lot of places that you play on kind of a regular basis, almost like a residency where you go back quite.

15:51 Speaker 6: A bit essentially.

15:52 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean like Nolins and Conquered Loans, a few different other speakeasies across New Hampshire. So I'll go do one there and then do one at Codex in Nashua, and then do one at you know, crow Bauer and Claremont. So yeah, and obviously then makes me appreciate Pemburg City limits being a five minutes from my house a little extra.

16:10 Speaker 12: But yeah, I'm curious too about so do you always do you play the eighth string at every show?

16:18 Speaker 6: Or yeah?

16:19 Speaker 13: Yeah, So I have a looper set that I play the eighth string at, so I uh, I'm basically laying down the guitar and the bass line and one passed through with the looper and then I just play the melody. But yeah, that's that's that's all over the place too, because you know, like my influences, I do like warrange regulate. I'll do Creep from Radiohead and then Coltrane songs that do Take five from Dave Brubeck, so like it's you know, Mama's in the Papa songs like Jane Morrison. So it's so like so eclectic.

16:47 Speaker 13: There's no one who covers the same songs that I cover, I'm sure, but yeah, yeah, and I just yeah, I kind of get a look on for some of the set, I'll just do like kind of solo jazz guitar songs like do like fly Me to the Moon and like jazz standards and we'll kind of reimagine reharmonized jazz standards.

17:04 Speaker 12: So what what did you I assume you started out on a six string? I did?

17:08 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually started on bass long before guitar, but yeah, oh okay. I started on bass and then learned guitar after that, and then I only got into age string about four years ago. My teacher was selling one and I always kind of wanted to delve into it, and I already kind of had the bass and guitar kind of background, so it was just kind of yeah, getting used to the really wide neck and putting the two together.

17:31 Speaker 12: Who is your teacher? We should give them a plug?

17:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, Dave Newsome, Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

17:35 Speaker 13: I started going to Summer Youth Music School back in

17:40 Speaker 13: ninth grade, which is the U n H program, and he started teaching me then, and then I went to UNH for a little bit and then yeah, he's he taught Tommy Gray and I've been I haven't had any lessons really, but we played together, and like that's a that's a lesson in itself.

17:56 Speaker 11: What was it?

17:58 Speaker 12: Was it challenging learning to play an eight string or did it kind of come naturally? Was it just a matter of, uh, kind of combining what you knew?

18:05 Speaker 13: And ah, yeah, it was a little of both because I already kind of played six string bass, so I already was comfortable with a low B string. Yeah, and then you know, adding the low F sharp and just kind of figuring out different like chord shapes, like yeah, like so that I you know, normal A on guitar to get that low A like you can do with still almost a bar chord and do some cool stuff, and so like you just figure out different ways to use it, and you know, some shapes kind of transfer over some sometimes you figure out new shapes that.

18:34 Speaker 6: You could never do with a six string.

18:36 Speaker 13: So it's yeah, it's definitely fun and it gives you It gives you some range and it even like I used it in Flamingo shows and it throws people for a loop because they'll like hear me doing the bass and then all of a sudden I'll do a guitar solo and then.

18:47 Speaker 6: Go back to the.

18:50 Speaker 13: But yeah, it's uh, it's it's really it's a fun instrument. I'm glad I delve down that rabbit hole.

18:55 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, no, it's fascinating. Like I said, I like listening to it. But it's also just I'm fascinated just watching you play. I'm just watching your fingers. You know, we should play us since we were talking about it, we should play that hip hop track. Yeah.

19:09 Speaker 6: Yeah. This is As I Lay Dying feature in ben Shore again. This is on my album.

19:16 Speaker 13: A nice song just with some different saw me playing guitar. The only song I played mandolin the song. There's a little mandolin loop that started the whole song, which is funny how stuff like one little thing becomes this big, blossoming song that barely has anything to do with the man.

19:31 Speaker 6: Yeah. No, it's a cool song. It's kind of big and epic sounding, is what I was going for.

19:35 Speaker 12: Yeah, I really like this a lot. Let's give this a spin. This is called As I Lay Dying.

19:46 Speaker 14: I broke, but I'm not broken. Don't breaking left the gun smoking? My blood runs open scars, don't heal right? Can't get it just sealed tight token together, hoping for luck. But the deal's light, falling like a steel pipe. I fall hard through a skylight window covered in glass shards. Too much dancing with the devil left my ass chard into the road.

20:11 Speaker 4: Asked my maker to make it in less painful.

20:14 Speaker 14: Instead, an angel came and sang me songs until I fell asleep, helped me get up. Instead of rain clouds, there was a rainbow. So I crawled till I could walk. Now, I let this guitar weak.

20:43 Speaker 15: As I lay dying, as I lay dying, as I laid dying, as I laid dying, But it all falls down, and.

21:11 Speaker 4: The ground starts waking, and my soul.

21:13 Speaker 16: Of wakens, and the sky starts breaking, and the eyes are wide, and the time I've taken it is not.

21:19 Speaker 4: Be given living these times we see the bying prize. Ribbons were driven for riches and sinning. This isn't why we live in this prison.

21:25 Speaker 16: This in them envision, It's like an incision, like if I get in. Prescriptions seem to make us pain free, but mainly remind us that we insn't in fame.

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21:39 Speaker 4: The real truth thighs in this here booth.

21:41 Speaker 1: There's no fearing.

21:42 Speaker 4: My eyes absent dispair with the spies. W can do pairing. The lines are beating disguise.

21:46 Speaker 14: I taste the tears rolling down a cheeks, kiss them away, keep loves so deep.

21:50 Speaker 4: I shed no more tears. I just let this guitarly weave.

22:18 Speaker 10: It's it's not late, it's late dinings.

22:25 Speaker 9: I lay.

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22:52 Speaker 12: Didn't even want to talk over the end. It just sounded so cool as I lay dying. That is from uh uh the new Uh?

23:00 Speaker 8: Now is it?

23:01 Speaker 12: Is it under Gary Smith? Or is it uh? You're calling it? Yeah?

23:06 Speaker 6: So my I've already released stuff under Yeah, So that is uh here.

23:11 Speaker 12: I have a oh wonderful, wonderful that the.

23:14 Speaker 13: Name of the album is Melody Workshop, my name that I produced under his percussive maintenance. So all the songs on the album are gonna be under percussive maintenance, you know, okay, Uh, they're gonna have all the different artists, you know, because there's Jam Tomorrow on there, there's Fox and Flamingos, and I tried to get again because the album is so collaborative, I tried to get collaborative with the art. So my good friend Christy Marcella did that nice piece of art that's featured throughout the album.

23:39 Speaker 12: And so for those watching online, I'll hold up yeah, yeah, I'll hold up the shirt here. I can't really zoom in, but that's so that So she did that.

23:48 Speaker 6: Yeah, so she did that piece of art.

23:50 Speaker 17: That's awesome.

23:51 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so so gorgeous.

23:53 Speaker 13: And then Nick from Cosmic Blossom, he's on a song too that I'm sure you heard. He did a piece of art. A friend from California to a piece of art. So it's kind of just the album is going to have a bunch of different pieces of art all kind of blended together on the back for you know, just for something kind of again collaborative art wise and music wise.

24:11 Speaker 12: So no, that's extremely cool, and yeah, thank you. This is a that's amazing, very nice, very nice. So what's kind of the future trajectory in terms of are you are you continuing to work with a lot of these artists on I mean, obviously this this album is just now coming out or about to come out, but but are you, because you strike me as someone you probably always have ideas and oh.

24:38 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, no, I always have music, uh in the bank. I mean I could probably do another one of these pretty quick if I you know, just gott into the studio and stuff. But uh yeah, I mean that's really more. I mean I have some ideas kind of to get things slightly more focused, you know. That's kind of this is kind of just the like shoot it out there. This is everything I do. And then you know, I want to do a little more hip hop production. Me and Ben talked about doing a few more songs together and the song that you may have heard with Mazy Digital Sunrise like that, when we want to do a few more little like snippets like that, because those you know, come together really quick.

25:12 Speaker 11: You know.

25:12 Speaker 6: I have having the able to she just you know.

25:15 Speaker 13: Records it through the mic and in my house and it's super simple in that sense, okay, and then I just go to our mixed mastering Wizard with the stems and we just mix it in a couple hours, so it's no kidding. So yeah, that's why I like even some of the stuff that most of the stuff is you know, ultimately produced and made my bedroom and you know, bedroom studio. But you know, I take the stems and let Pete Pete do his thing because he's he's such a good dude and he knows he knows this stuff, and there's so much stuff that like I have an idea, and then just even when he gets the stems, he's like, why don't we do this?

25:47 Speaker 6: Why don't we do this? And it just makes such a big difference, Like, Yeah, that's that's why I'm glad I do I do.

25:51 Speaker 3: This with you.

25:51 Speaker 12: Now where is he because we should give him a plague.

25:53 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's Pete Peloquin at Board's House Productions in Brookline. Yeah, same one. That's where you did jam tomorrow, right, we have jams tomorrow. Fox and Flamingos have recorded there. There's yeah, a bunch of bunch of bands around the area have have recorded there. I mean, Rooster Creation are the big one that they do. But he's the sound guy for Badfish, so he's on the road doing that stuff a bunch too. So oh okay, he's actually we're playing a pumpkin fest tomorrow with Fox and Flamingoes and we get to he gets to do our sounds, so we're We're lucky.

26:21 Speaker 13: I think it's the best will ever sound with him doing our sounds.

26:24 Speaker 12: No kidding, Yeah, yeah, no, it makes sense.

26:26 Speaker 6: Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, I know. He's he's an awesome dude.

26:29 Speaker 13: He's super easy to work with and like he lets meaner it out and learn stuff from him, Like I've become a better, you know, producer by just watching what he does, like over his shoulder and asking him nerdy questions.

26:40 Speaker 12: Yeah. It's cool though, that you're able to to do the recording at home, you know, It's I always say, we live in a time. We're blessed to live in a time where you have so many different options in terms of how you record, and you know, different studios you can go to or you can do it at home. And oh, really, I'm out with with something that sounds amazing. Maybe we should play that track Digital Sunrise. That's another one. So now this track to just to be clear, this is not Fox and the Flamingos.

27:08 Speaker 6: This is not Fox and Flamingos.

27:09 Speaker 13: No, this is again a song and guitar riff that ultimately again the guitar riffs started all became a song, and then I wanted to do something with it, and Mazy heard it and loved it, like, oh I can write some something cool over this, so yeah yeah, and then just did some rearranging. But yeah, I know this is just a percussive maintenance featuring Yeah Mazy, I didn't mean.

27:29 Speaker 12: To start that already. Try trying to actually Oh, here we go, trying to actually download it, and this computer's being a little slow. Here we go, here we go. Okay, yeah, this is really cool too. Let's give this a spin. This is called digital sunrise.

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28:28 Speaker 17: Have been had on? Has been, have.

28:43 Speaker 8: Been feeling good between my shoes and I've been singing industry where the sun must go?

28:52 Speaker 5: Don't not just like nowhere?

28:57 Speaker 10: I'm like God when I'm like God's good between machines.

29:07 Speaker 8: I've been sticking in this.

29:10 Speaker 3: I'm not where to shusy, I'm not just way no way.

29:18 Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god.

29:26 Speaker 17: I don't know what to tell you.

29:30 Speaker 8: You've gone to some been eating something bad. They like your soul about You've been high on.

30:12 Speaker 12: It's got a cool vibe if you're just joining us. Gary Smith is here with us, alive in studio, and we're playing some tracks from Percussive Maintenance. Did I get the title right?

30:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my producer name. The album is called Melody Workshop.

30:26 Speaker 12: Melody Workshop right, right, gotcha?

30:28 Speaker 13: Which is my My parents had a music store that they opened. That was my first job back in ninth grade. I was giving guitar lessons. So yeah, that was called the Melody Workshops. I'm like, oh, it's a perfect kind of tie everything together.

30:40 Speaker 12: So yeah, you were already giving guitar lessons.

30:43 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, mainly bass lessons, but beginner guitar lessons, and then yeah, by the end, by like senior year, that was you know, just all I was doing was giving guitar lessons and bass lessons, So I didn't really have a normal high school, crappy job, given lessons for my parents.

30:57 Speaker 6: Good for you, Good for you.

30:59 Speaker 12: Does that still exists or no?

31:01 Speaker 13: No, they've both passed since and they've retired a while ago. But I think the last time it existed, probably as it was, was like two thousand and two, two thousand and three, okay, but I actually I found an old picture of the sign and that's used on the album cover. So yeah, oh that's very cool. But yeah, it was, uh, you know, my stepdad got me into music.

31:23 Speaker 6: Really.

31:23 Speaker 13: My mom and him met doing like actor singers back in Nashville. He was the director of Actors Singers. Ah wow, so uh so they met and then that kind of infused me with music, made me learn trombone at a young age, and I love bass. So because I went from trombone, I'm like, I already know bass left so I.

31:39 Speaker 6: Could read it right away.

31:40 Speaker 12: So what was trombone your first instrument?

31:42 Speaker 13: Trombone was my first instrument. Yeah, yeah, I haven't touched one in you know, twenty something years, so it probably sound horrible if I tried to touch it, but but yeah, I mean it was definitely the catalyst for everything. And then you know, that's what led me to bass because I'm like, oh, it's in the same cleft, so I can read it right away. And that was rap and then you know, my thought was, all my friends are learning how to play guitar, why don't I learned how to play bass?

32:04 Speaker 6: And yeah it has worked out well.

32:06 Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely absolutely that track too. So you were saying off here Digital Sunrise, you call it it's mid fi.

32:15 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so that was the joke.

32:16 Speaker 13: It's it's not like a low fi like slow, like gritty track, but like it's like a it's a hip hop ified version of Fox and Flamingos almost, like yeah, so it's kind of the again, the melding of the two sides right right.

32:31 Speaker 12: When you play like when you play out solo, do any of the songs from the bands that you're in make it into the set?

32:39 Speaker 13: Or oh definitely yeah, yeah, I mean some of the I actually just added one we've done with Fox and Flingers. We've done like this cool funky version of Benny and the Jets Forever, Yeah, and I'm like, oh, that has like it has a looping structure. I'm like, oh, I can loop this one way through. So like that's kind of when I and then like isn't she lovely? I do that just the two of us. So yeah, some of the songs I do with one or other and then some of my originals, like I do a EMU when I do that live and I like layer the harmonies through the looper and like, yeah, it's a uh yeah, I definitely find songs from from that for sure, I haven't quite done an original, and I haven't thought about it.

33:17 Speaker 13: I don't think one would quite work like looping process wise, because they're also weird.

33:21 Speaker 6: But yeah, I definitely find some good covers that that work well.

33:25 Speaker 13: And that's kind of again the fun of my original or my live side is like people like listening and say, oh I know that song. Oh that's a radiohead, Oh that's you know. Yeah, well John, so like there it is. It is kind of fun in that sense.

33:38 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, very cool. Well we should uh, let's see, I want to make sure we get these other ones in.

33:45 Speaker 12: Should we play melt Away next?

33:47 Speaker 6: Yeah?

33:47 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a new Fox and Flamingos song that's actually our most recently recorded one. Oh and this was a cool, cool story about this one. Me and Mayzi just were like, we want to write a song. We hadn't written a song in a while. And then I had like, as silly as it sounds, I had a dream with this riff in it that I had already played like it just like it's weird that I remember that.

34:10 Speaker 6: And then she said I'm like, okay, how about that. She's like, oh, I love it.

34:12 Speaker 13: So the beginning riff was where it all started, but I had the rift, the chord progression, and then I just brought it to her. She instantly came up with words and then brought it to the Flamingos and we fleshed it all out to what it is, and it's it's an awesome song or only song that's not in four to four in the album.

34:26 Speaker 6: So yeah, little.

34:27 Speaker 12: Waltz, Oh cool cool. Yeah. I love Fox on the Flamingos, as you know, I love I still love that. I still play it once in a while. That don't be a stranger. Yeah, such a great that's such a great song.

34:38 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it.

34:39 Speaker 13: But this is great too. So this is brand new, right, Yeah, this is brand new. It hasn't been played anywhere besides us doing it live.

34:45 Speaker 3: You know.

34:46 Speaker 13: I think we debuted it at Wormtown. So yeah, this is a new Little Fox and Flamingo's debut.

34:52 Speaker 12: Fantastic. And this is called melt Away.

34:54 Speaker 17: Check this out, hey, safety.

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35:39 Speaker 7: One individible have a.

35:47 Speaker 2: Member and.

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36:25 Speaker 5: So I don't love me alone. I don't want to be.

37:06 Speaker 8: Floating down.

37:10 Speaker 17: You can I you you do you.

37:15 Speaker 5: Not you deliver, sell me just not to work.

37:24 Speaker 2: And to.

37:36 Speaker 8: That trust you, but I don't.

37:41 Speaker 5: It's just myself.

37:47 Speaker 17: Oh I can't say that.

37:50 Speaker 8: Just mysel up.

37:55 Speaker 5: And you feel yourself right, sod.

38:03 Speaker 7: Wt be long.

38:11 Speaker 5: I'll be long, gods.

38:42 Speaker 8: But at ss my save.

38:50 Speaker 5: Hold statements.

38:53 Speaker 8: That's my save.

38:59 Speaker 11: You.

39:00 Speaker 2: So so.

39:53 Speaker 12: M that is so good, melt away. I love Fox of the fl you all know. Yeah, that is fantastic. And yeah, the flute sounds great and that the way it kind of just.

40:06 Speaker 13: Weaves in and out and yeah, like it's cool, like the flute over the heavy guitar.

40:10 Speaker 6: It's such a cool like mix of sounds.

40:12 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, fantastic, fantastic if you're just joining us. Gary Smith is here. He's in Fox and the Flamingos and Jam Tomorrow and uh what like ten other bands or something.

40:24 Speaker 13: Yeah, Cosmic Blossoms effective yeah, and then kind of Cinnamon jazz trio, the Floutest in that we play a little bit. We were played at Pembroke actually with I played bass in that with a piano player Joe Verga, and play flute.

40:38 Speaker 6: Yeah and yeah we just do some jazz standards, we have fun. We Uh, it's always a great time.

40:42 Speaker 13: I mean, just just like all my other things, Like we invite people to play up, so like we had a trump player last time, kind of sax player before.

40:50 Speaker 6: So it's fun.

40:51 Speaker 12: Is that Is that ever challenging when you when you I mean having having those additional horns? I mean, does it always just kind of work or is it ever?

41:00 Speaker 13: I mean, jazz, even though it's kind of crazy, a lot of it's structured, so like you're you're kind of just doing the same form over and over. So as long as you know the basics for everything are kind of happening, it's pretty simple to add in.

41:13 Speaker 2: Uh.

41:14 Speaker 13: Even like my jazz thing I do at Pembrooke, like last week, I do it every other Sunday pretty much. I had some younger kids freshman at Berkeley come and I think he's a high school student from around here, Jack and Nick and they came and we just sat in the whole time and played and went over some stuff, and like it was like it was a good learning experience for them to get to kind of woodshed those types of songs. So yeah, I mean it's never Sometimes it's smoother than others by all means, it kind of depends on what the history is.

41:43 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean I do a few of them around here.

41:46 Speaker 13: I often go to the Forum Jazz Jam up the Old Area twenty three, and yeah, the same thing is just some old school guys, you know, Brian Booth, mikey g Mike Glant and they all. I'll just kind of go through some standards and we all make it sound really really good because you know, there's there's the structure to it. But yeah, yeah, I mean it always depends, but I mean that's kind of the fun, especially if you have a solid bassist or in rhythm section, you know, good bassist and drummer like you can you can over you can overcome a lot just by having the solid bass and then you know, trust that they're gonna kind of lead you.

42:24 Speaker 13: Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely a different type of mindset versus you know, rehearsing, you know, like learning a cover song for jam tomorrow. That's a very different mindset versus you know, kind of the improvisatory side. But even like Cosmic Blossom, like sometimes in sets when we're doing something, we'll just say, hey, let's jam and see myner and see where it goes and move come up with songs. Like the most recent song we're working on came out in a jam we were doing a Candy Road brewing. We just like kind of saw where it went and then they made it.

42:53 Speaker 13: We basically made it a song over the course of the night. So it's fun how stuff can work like that.

42:59 Speaker 6: Collaborate.

43:00 Speaker 12: Is Cosmic Blossom something where where the songs like, do they change a lot live like, because it seems like with with the project like that, you've got like the songs have room to breathe if you want to just kind of make them longer spontaneously exactly.

43:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they definitely do.

43:15 Speaker 13: And then I mean Cosmic Blossom collective is it's a group of bunch of people. There's you know, multiple drummers, multiple bassists, multiple you know, guitarists. There's like kind of Nick and Brad or the core Okay, but yeah, I mean there's three vocalists, there's a saxophonists sometimes comes in. So it's really, uh, it's really all over the place. But that's kind of the beauty of it is that allows you for some flexibility, get a bunch of different types of input. And we practiced last week in Nash.

43:41 Speaker 13: So we had three female vocalists, Sarah, Meg and Amanda Like make from Dog eight Dog.

43:47 Speaker 6: She's a great vocalist.

43:49 Speaker 13: Sarah's from Dog a Dog too, and Amanda's from Cosmic Blossom and uh.

43:56 Speaker 6: Or in her Boyfriend of a Group too. I'll get in trouble for not remembering that.

44:01 Speaker 13: But yeah, so like it's just these powerful female vocalists and they can like instantly harmonize on the spots while we're riffing on something that we made up there coming up with these awesome intertwining harmonies, and it's like it's just me and Nick looked over at each other once.

44:15 Speaker 6: Last week just like Jesus, wow, absolutely mind blowing.

44:19 Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean it's uh we But then like the one we did a Candy Road, that's just me one of the drummers and Nick and Brad just we do a bunch of cosmic songs, the ones that don't require those powerful female vocals.

44:31 Speaker 6: But then you know, we'll do some covers, we'll you know, just.

44:34 Speaker 13: Make stuff up on the spot, and sometimes the spontaneous stuff gets like the best.

44:38 Speaker 6: Reaction from the crowd because you know it's just us doing our best thing.

44:41 Speaker 12: Yeah. Oh that's fantastic. That's fantastic. Uh So before we run out of time and we'll we'll play we do have one more that you sent me.

44:50 Speaker 13: Kaleidoscope I think it was, yeah, Clidophone. Yeah, yeah, that's the one with Nick Burns actually of Cosmic Blossoms. Okay, he's the lead singer and the you know kind of core of that he sang on the song. We actually wrote the song together. I had the guitar part and then he's like, yeah, I said, let's let's make something cool together with this, and then he came up with the melody. He plays guitar on it. The same trumpet player who's on EMU plays the trumpet parts, Brian Murphy. Again, he used to be in a band called The Shills, which was pretty famous at one point.

45:21 Speaker 13: But yeah, he's a he's an awesome trump player, awesome vocalist, awesome guitarist.

45:26 Speaker 12: Okay, okay, yeah, So we'll play that in a moment, but before we go, I want to make sure so for our people listening live on Saturday, because you've got a busy Saturday. Let's make sure everyone wants to people want to follow you around today.

45:40 Speaker 13: Yeah, so at twelve thirty I have a one o'clock the Streaming Stars. But at twelve thirty I'll be at Pembrooke City Limits showing the whole album. We showed you know a few songs from it, but there's twelve total songs. And then I'll be there till about two thirty most likely. And then I'll be going up to Bay Side Bowl in Portland, Maine with Onyx, the old school hip hop group. They're playing and Ben Shore is opening for them. We're gonna debut the song we just played as I lay dying with me playing guitar excellent, right before they go on.

46:15 Speaker 13: And then tomorrow Fox and Flamingos is playing eleven thirty in the middle of the Milford Oval.

46:21 Speaker 6: For Pumpkin Fest.

46:22 Speaker 12: Too excellent.

46:24 Speaker 13: And then yeah, yeah, I mean keeping eye on my website, my website g Smith.

46:29 Speaker 6: Music dot com. I still have a lot of a lot of gigs coming up.

46:33 Speaker 11: You know.

46:34 Speaker 6: Next week I'll be playing a Bad Burger.

46:36 Speaker 13: We do a cool little jam there with the owner Ian and then I'll be up and I'm actually racing next weekend, so I'll be up in Claremont so I'm doing a gig while I'm racing on the weekend.

46:46 Speaker 12: So what do you mean, you're you're racing?

46:48 Speaker 6: You I race. He'll climb like he'll climb cars.

46:52 Speaker 13: Yeah, so the bottom of a mountain access road up to the top like they do Mount Washington.

46:56 Speaker 17: Oh wow.

46:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a bunch of them throughout Vermont that I do.

47:00 Speaker 13: And I have an old two thousand and four Neon SRT four that's with a roll cage. That's yeah, yeah, that's a I've been doing that for a few years. I think you saw me probably one point when I was all broken when I was in when I was hobbling.

47:13 Speaker 6: That was because I crashed on my race cars. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I love hill climbing. It's the best, no kidding.

47:19 Speaker 12: Yeah, this is scary. It sounds scary.

47:22 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it took me a while to get into it.

47:25 Speaker 13: But I'm like, if you're racing on a road course, which I did before, I'm like, if you hit a wall, it's not going to be fun. If you hit a tree, it's not gonna be fun. And then I mean I did hit a tree really bad and it definitely was less than less than fun. But I got back to it, to it with any year because it's so fun, the community is so great and it's what every everyone in New England wants to do. Go as fast as you can on a back road, you know, with no no speed limits. It's just you know, a twisty, windy thirty turn road up the top of a road.

47:50 Speaker 6: So it's a lot of fun.

47:52 Speaker 12: Wow, no kidding, all that's cool, that's cool, All right, well we will we will close out with oh, actually the other thing too, not only what you're doing today, but let's make sure two people know the schedule for the album release.

48:06 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, album release. Yeah, so fourteenth. You'll be able to download it, stream it on band camp. You can pre order the vinyls, you can order shirts like you got we have those. I'm actually gonna have guitar picks coming in again for my nerdy friends. And then the twenty eighth the album will be out on all the other streaming services. Obviously band Camp is a little bit nicer to musicians, so anyone who would like to support us through that is definitely appreciated. But it'll be on all the you know, Spotify's and apples of the world.

48:37 Speaker 13: On the twenty eighth. Yeah, okay, yeah, the vinyls should be here by the end of the year, pending things with Vinyl, but it's gonna be some cool one hundred and eighty gram clear vinyl for the first first hundred pressings.

48:51 Speaker 12: Nice.

48:51 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a vinyl nerd.

48:53 Speaker 17: I have been.

48:53 Speaker 6: I worked at Tweeter back in the day. Yeah, yeah, so I'm i gotta gotta do.

48:58 Speaker 12: It right, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Twenty twenty two was the first year of the vinyl Actually, I.

49:03 Speaker 6: Was told CDs. Yeah, yep, long time coming.

49:06 Speaker 12: Yeah, there you go, there you go. Gary Smith. Always wonderful to have you here, my friend. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it absolutely. And congratulations on the album and everything that you're doing.

49:16 Speaker 6: Thank you.

49:16 Speaker 12: And uh yeah, we will close out the segment with this coalidaphone. Oh if you are listening live on Saturday, of course, we have Brian Biolanski. I'll have to ask him if I'm saying his name correctly coming up in the third hour. He's on a big national tour and he is he has a stop here in the Queen City, so he's going to be joining us. But we will close out this hour with this is kaleidaphone.

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50:15 Speaker 5: It's similar than to her spirit.

50:19 Speaker 6: It's sitting the beat of each heart.

50:22 Speaker 1: It's magic.

50:23 Speaker 7: Bad hides in playing side or music.

50:27 Speaker 6: It's who.

50:30 Speaker 17: Oh music.

50:31 Speaker 7: It's who he oh and how it moves me?

50:38 Speaker 13: Oh when I hear the morning birds sing the heart sorry and in harmony with the song.

50:47 Speaker 17: Not God's there is.

50:51 Speaker 8: It's sooner, We got your feelings.

50:53 Speaker 5: Oh, it's showing where how you playing.

50:58 Speaker 13: The timing into creates a lot of bone that they's me.

51:27 Speaker 3: It's over collar a trumpet, it's another buck of a stamp.

51:34 Speaker 5: It's medus colored sound.

51:38 Speaker 7: Music is and everything.

51:43 Speaker 17: It's how we see each other going through the window of d.

51:50 Speaker 19: It's time.

51:51 Speaker 6: The all makes itself heard music, you.

51:55 Speaker 7: Too, we are all music.

51:59 Speaker 8: It's a oh.

52:03 Speaker 3: Oh, and how it moves me when I hear.

52:07 Speaker 15: The calf is three, the sacred beauty a melody and the compredided Bruce.

52:19 Speaker 17: It's soon we got your listen.

52:23 Speaker 6: It's the the way that you move.

52:26 Speaker 5: The reason meantime makes me feel.

52:29 Speaker 6: So sublime, Ma, and I'm locked within.

52:32 Speaker 7: The crew.

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