Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-17-23

You're listening to w m n H. You come, he God, don't get so greenly matself coving you welcome everybody here we go, Happy Tuesday. It is that time again. Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM, Inglorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six if you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt connorton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Tuesday, October seventeen, twenty twenty three, so nice to have you all with me.

We have a great musical guest coming up in the second hour, Best Not Broken. They've sent me some studio tracks that we're going to play. They've been on the show once before a while ago, so I'm really looking forward to having them back and playing some of the newer stuff. The songs that we open with today. We opened with

Don't Be a Stranger by Fox and the Flamingos, a great song. Jenny was commenting in the chat rom too, how much she loves that song, ell of it too. And then we also played something from Eons Encoded called Fragmented. We're Gonna Save We're Gonna Save the best not broken Tunes for the second hour. But they're a great band from Boston, so looking forward to seeing them again, So that'll be coming up in the second hour. On the first hour, we'll probably talk about what's going on in the House of Representatives there if you haven't seen the news.

They're trying to select a speaker. But Jim Jordan, he actually cannot seem to get well. Actually he got fewer votes than expected on that first round of voting. There will probably be another round at some point today, maybe even during the first hour that we're on the air today, and we'll be able to follow up on that. But so we'll see, we might get into some of that today. But if you'd like to get in with anything you would like to discuss, the studio line is open six oh three two five O six oh seven six O three two five O six oh seven.

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The studio tracks are amazing from the band, but he also play played right there on the couch. It's so good, so good. He easily vaulted into probably maybe definitely top ten, maybe top five as far as live musical guests on the show. He was so good. So check that out. Quincy Lord of the band a Sunset Electric, and we will have in the future because we were talking after the show off air about he'd like to get the full band in and and do a couple of songs, a few songs live in studio with the whole band, which would be really cool.

But yeah, so you should definitely check that out. We'll say hell lod everybody in the Facebook live chat. Facebook has given me some trouble today. Same thing it's been newing to Jenny. I share the show out and I get a thing that says we've removed your content due to spam. Spam. It's my show. I'm sharing out my I can't share out my own show on Facebook with that. Facebook is well, you know it's Facebook, Damn you Zuckerberg. I don't know. Miriam Bannish shoins us in the Facebook live ed and says happy Tuesday, Hello, Miriam.

Jenny is in there, of course, and says shillom peeps. Also, jayfed from the Great State of vermonts as good afternoon everyone, And that's all I can see so far in the Facebook live chat, which is unusual. But again Facebook is being very facebookish. So that's fine. But let's get an update on what is happening here. Actually, let me refresh this page. The Hill dot com they have live updates. So today the House voted on Jim Jordan, representative from the Great State of Ohio, to be a Speaker of the House and didn't pan out.

Not I don't know that he was expecting it to or anyone was expecting it to on the first vote, But it appears this is going to be a tougher climb than expected. I don't know if it's going to go fifteen rounds like it did for Kevin McCarthy. I suspect that it won't take that many, because there's going to be here's my prediction. And by the way, I will fully and unreservedly acknowledge that I've been wrong in many of my predictions when it comes to this. I thought Steve Scalise was going to be the speaker.

I really did. But then again, back in January, when Kevin McCartney was trying to become speaker and they did go the fifteen rounds, you know, I thought, I thought he was going to have to give up and Scalise would be next one up. And then McCarthy. Did I say McCarthy or McCartney. I think I said McCartney, McCarthy. I'm thinking about Paul McCartney. I've got the Beatles on I heard a Beatles song a little while ago. I've got that on my mind. You say you want a revolution. Nobody really wants a revolution.

People talk about it, you know, you'll often hear like the militant types who like to hang out in the woods with their guns, they'll talk about how there's going to be a revolution. There's no revolution coming. I'm sorry, it's been canceled. It will not be televised because it's literally not going to happen. It won't even be available for streaming. But that's another issue. So I I think that what might begin to happen is some of these House Republicans who have very strong reservations about Jim Jordan.

You know, the fatigue is going to set in and the reality that look, either we either get him in there or what's you know, what's plan what's our plan B? Here? All I guess, well McCartney was plan A, so I guess Jim Jordan has planned B. So they might be saying, what's our plan c uh and uh, we don't have one, do we. So I think that some of these moderate Republicans, and again there were more than I was expecting that voted against Jim Jordan, I think I think there might be enough of them who will out of probably a combination of pragmatism and just desperation will give in and UH and vote for Jim Jordan and and he will become speaker.

Jay fed says, I'm voting for Trump with Jim Jordan as VP. Well there you go. Well, Jim Jordan is Trump's pick for UH for the speaker. That's who Trump endorsed. I was as as this is all unfolding today, and again, we'll keep an eye on this because they might I don't know when they're going to do the second vote. If you remember back in January when it was Kevin McCartney, they you know, they would vote and he would lose, and then they would have some more meetings, you know, behind closed doors, and then they would vote again and he would lose again, you know, and this went on and on until he finally became speaker.

It was Scott I think it was Scott Robinson who made a comment in the chat room. I was see yesterday or last week. It all runs together, but he had made a comment in the chat room about how I think it was at the end of last week, about how, you know, he wishes that these moderate Republicans in the House, you know, many of them Republicans who are in districts that were carried by Joe Biden in twenty twenty. So they they don't want to, you know, they're reluctant to get on the Jim Jordan bandwagon because Jim Jordan is a House Freedom Caucus guy, very conservative.

But Scott had made a comment, it's too bad some of these moderate Republicans don't stand up to the conservative House Freedom Caccus people, uh, the same way that the conservative House Freedom Coccus people like Matt Gates. You know, they're they're willing to uh throw their weight around and and and get their way. Why don't the moderates stand up to them more? Because there's more moderates and there are these House Freedom Caccus people, And I was reflecting on that. I thought it was an interesting observation, and I think in the moment my first reaction to what Scott's comment was was I said, well, they're just not used to doing that.

They just don't generally speaking, Uh, just from what I've observed as an outsider, because I've never been a member of the Republican Party, I don't think moderate Republicans particularly want to uh stand up to uh, you know, the House Freedom Caucus people or the you know, the more conservative Republicans. I think they just they they don't like to do that. And I I was reflecting on it today and I was thinking about, you know, part of the problem. For see, it's different in the Senate for a few reasons, but one of them is and of course, you know senators, Republican senators are just in a broad sense more likely to be more moderate.

But in the Senate, you've got a six year term. So if you are, say you're two years into a six year term as a Senate Republican, well, you can take some risks and you can push back on some people who you think are behaving in a reckless and irresponsible way and probably not pay any long term price for it. But if you're in the House, you're up for reelection every two years, So that means I mean, think of the pressure of that. Not that I'm making any excuses for them, I'm just saying, think of the pressure of that.

Think of how vulnerable that makes you in terms of your political career, in terms of holding office. So if you are a moderate House Republican and you start really standing up to criticizing, pushing back on some of these House Freedom Caucus people, you put yourself in jeopardy pretty quickly politically, because what will happen is you'll have people like people in conservative media, like, for example, Sean Hannity, who apparently both on camera and from what I've been reading behind the scenes, is really pushing for Jim Jordan to be Speaker of the House.

But you'll have that conservative media machine, You'll have Fox News and Newsmax and conservative political talk radio. They will all then do whatever they can to destroy you if you're a moderate House Republican going up against the conservative wing of the party, which is to whom the conservative media caters too largely right, so they're all they'll just they'll wreck you. So what the problem for these moderate House Republicans? And again we're talking really about Republicans who again, they're going to be on the ballot in twenty four no matter what they're they're running every two years.

I mean, not all of them at once, but necessarily But well, well, actually, I think so, right, are do any of them have odd numbers odd numbered years? How does that work in the House. I don't think so. I think it's all so. I think it would all be twenty four. I think I think there's just some governorships across the country that have odd numbered elections for whatever reason. But so you're always you're effectively from the moment you're elected, your reelection campaign has started in effect, right, So if you cross the wrong people, that media machine will crush you and you will get primaried.

It was during the during the Tea Party, the rise of the Tea Party movement. And this is the movement that eventually evolved into or devolved into, depending on your point of view, I would tend to say devolved personally, but that that became the House Freedom Caucus. They started as the Tea Partiers during the Obama administration, and that was it was during that era. It was the first time I can remember the word primary being used as a verb. Uh, you know, they're going to try to primary this Republican because they're not they're not conservative enough.

They're voting for spending bills that we don't like. We want to we want to have government shutdowns, we want to default on our debt. I mean a lot of these very uh you know, conservative tea partiers. That was that was where that started. Really, that was never a thing before the idea that it would actually be awesome and cool for the United States for the first time in our nation's history to default on our debt instead of raising the debt limit on schedule. At least, that's the first time I can ever remember hearing about that, where you know, there were some who thought, yeah, that's a great idea, let's just do it, you know, which of course would be catastrophic.

But uh, that was where I first started hearing the word primary be used as a verb. We're going to primary you. That's what they did to Eric Canter, for example. And it was also during during that era where John Bahner, remember him, Republican Speaker of the House. He he said, you know, he got tired of having the sort of damocles over his head all the time, similar to what Kevin McCartney just went through. Bayner didn't want to even he didn't like being threatened, He didn't like feeling that way.

He decided, you know what, at a certain point, I'm gonna move on. Same with Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan a little bit of a different scenario, but the idea being that that was where we first started seeing those people exert a lot of control, and it became a threat because prior to that, and still generally speaking, incumbency is a tremendous advantage. If you are an incumbent, having somebody come along in primary you is highly unlikely, but it's not as highly unlikely as it once was. And we saw examples of that during the Tea Party days that era.

I don't mean the Tea I don't mean going back to going back a couple of centuries. I mean the Tea Party Republicans during the Obama administration who rose up and started to take control.

But so you've got these You've got these moderate Republicans who are in swing districts, who know if they forcefully come out against McCarthy, I'm sorry, come out against Jim Jordan, you know, they could very quickly have the weight of the conservative media machine on them and crushing them and making sure that they don't even get Not only will they not win reelection, they won't even get to the primary. They won't get through the primary. They'll be replaced.

But then they've got to walk They know they have to walk that line because they don't want to be primaried. But when you get to the general election, Again, if you're in a swing district, if you're in a district that was carried by Biden in twenty twenty, you know, you don't want to You don't want your opponent to be able to point to you, the Democrat, to be able to point to you and say, you know, look at this. They supported Jim Jordan. Really, they ousted Kevin McCartney for Jim Jordan. This is this is is this who you want?

No, and they're gonna lose. I mean, I think that. I think the Republicans, this, this whole thing is such a mess to begin with. I'm pretty sure they're gonna lose the House in twenty twenty four. I cannot imagine how they hold on at their majority. Roni Favero from the Great State of California joins us in the Chatterman says Cali here, as well as Hans Smith from the band Sepsis. Hans says, the one thing that we're spending way too much money on is military. No wonder our debt ceilings so high. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a difficult subject because there there are those who would say we spend way too much.

I mean, we do spend a tremendous amount, and I'm sure a lot of that does get wasted. On the other hand, I do agree with certainly. You know, we do need to maintain we don't want to put our guard down ever, and also I do support helping Israel and helping Ukraine. I think, by the way, although I think the aid to Ukraine is effectively over, I think we are about to abandon Ukraine. I don't see. You know,

McCartney was all over the place on that when he was speaker. Remember all these, all the fiscal bills, they start in the House. That's who controls the money. So that's why this is so important, and that's why our government is effectively paralyzed to a large extent as long as there's no House Speaker. And I don't know when there's going to be a House Speaker, because I don't know when Jim Jordan will actually be able to get to two seventeen, which is what he needs to become speaker. And then when Jim Jordan is speaker, assuming that he does become speaker, this is a guy who always votes against continuing resolutions when it comes to the to the budget, and I think will absolutely take us into default.

And what are we seventeen days away? No, it's November seventeenth, that's the date. That's where I'm getting seventeen, I think, right, So we're still yeah, because it was the last cr was for forty five days. Okay, so yeah we're still So we're a little under. Yeah, we're a month actually exactly a month away. I'm terrible at math, forgive me. I I you know, Jim Jordan, I think will have no problem doing a government shutdown. I don't think Jim Jordan when the when it comes time to deal with the debt ceiling again, I don't think Jim Jordan will have any problem with risking default for the first time in our country's history.

I think Jim Jordan is dangerous. I used to say that about the Tea Party guys, and I say that about the House Freedom Caucus people too. If you think,

if you actually think and will try to and will endeavor to make happen

a full default, for the United States to default on our full faith and credit for the first time in our country's history, are you are far too dangerous to be trusted with any degree of power. I mean, if you actually think default is a good idea. You know, I wouldn't trust you to be a shift manager at a fast food restaurant, let alone be voting on things in the House of Representatives. That's my feeling. It's a I mean back when what was it twenty eleven, which is when I really started to learn about exactly how the debt limit works, or the debt ceiling, or the fiscal cliff, whatever term those various terms people use.

I was kind of shocked when I began to realize how many of these people don't seem to even understand. When I say these I mean people voting on this people in the United States Congress, how many of them, as evidenced from the conversations I would see them having as they would make the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows, some of them, as far as I could tell, literally did not understand the difference between the debt limit and the actual budget itself. I mean, it was shocking, and it's like, Wow, these people could really take us all into global economic armageddon because they're literally just not smart enough not to.

It's really scary when you think about it that way. Scott Robinson says, yeah, but Matt, what about the Democrats. What about them, I'll tell you about the Democrats, Scott, I am. I continue to be even more so now when I look at what we're getting into with either we have a speaker, well, let me put it this way. Either we don't have a speaker indefinitely, or we do have a speaker and it's Jim Jordan and he figures out how to wreck the economy in short order through a government shutdown and then eventually a default down the line.

I do continue to blame the Democrats for not coming to the rescue of Kevin McCartney. They should have. Again, as I have been saying on the show, I understand on the merits. If you look at the individual arguments for why they didn't, why they felt no obligation to, why they just didn't want to, why they don't like him, why they don't trust him, all of it, it's hard to argue against the merits of their reasons for not doing it. I understand that, just like I would understand. Look, if you saw someone drowning, I would hope you would go and help them.

But if you saw someone drowning, I would forgive you if if you hesitated for maybe just a half second, you should still go save You should save them no matter what. Of course, if you see someone drowning. But if you see someone drowning and as their drown as their head is about to go underwater, they're flipping you off and yelling at you about how much they hate you, I can see why you might just take a half second or a millisecond and say, should I really save them? Okay, yeah, I probably should.

Still That's how I feel about this, because here's the problem. So the Democrats, you know, their arguments again, it's hard to argue on the merits. They didn't trust Kevin McCarthy not trustworthy, which a lot of Republicans will also say about him, you know, doesn't keep his word, and uh, you know it gave far too much away to the House freedom, coccus people, et cetera. Also, right before his removal, he's on he's making the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows. Not not talking about maybe there's a way to work together bipartisan lee to keep him in a speakership or anything like that.

Instead, he's just going on the Sunday morning talk shows blaming the Democrats for everything, trashing the Democrats, blaming the Democrats for us almost, you know, having a government shut down, this and that. So I get it. He's drowning. You could go rescue him. But as he's as his head is going underwater, he's flipping you off and telling you that he hates you and that he wishes you were the one drowning instead of him. Doesn't doesn't exactly motivate you to throw him a life jacket, does it.

So I get that, I get it. You know, it's like I heard someone say why. I heard a Democrat say why Why is it our responsibility to save the Republican House speaker? Why? Why would it ever be our responsibility? You know, this is a problem in the Republican conference. Why is it our responsibility to help them sort it out? This is their problem, they should fix it there, dysfunctional and so on. Agreed, I agree on all counts. The only problem is now we're all really pretty screwed. As far as I can tell, it's the devil you know versus the devil you know.

Also in this case, because as much as you know, I don't have a lot of nice things to say about Kevin McCartney, although he did win some grudging respect from me. Also, because you know when he used to talk about how he didn't give up, he never gives up. Well, yeah, I mean he went through fifteen rounds of votes to get the speakership. When I and a lot of other people thought he'd never be able to get it done, he got it done. Okay. He promised we would not default on our debt. I really thought we were on the edge of it.

I thought Biden was going to have to try to invoke the fourteenth Amendment and hope for the best. Nope, they came to a deal much too close, much, much too close to the edge, but they got it done. He said we would not default. It was unacceptable. Oh I'm sorry. Onto the next thing in my mind, but I forgot to change the words. He said, we would not shut down, not have a government shut down not acceptable. A government shutdown isn't as anywhere near as catastrophic is an actual default, of course, but it still cost the economy trillions of dollars.

It's still horrendous. He said, we're not gonna let that happen. Kept his word, didn't let it happen. Okay, So he did win some a little bit of respect from me in some ways. But at the same time, you know, I have a lot of criticisms of him as well, but let's put those aside for a second.

If the Democrats had saved him, and I'm not saying they shouldn't have done it for free, but I would have liked to have seen something, some sort of an olive branch. Again, it's hard to extend an olive branch to someone who doesn't want it right. It's hard to extend an olive branch to someone who's telling you they hate you. So, you know, so McCartney did himself no favors. He was probably just exhausted by the whole thing. Uh, But I do wish that something had been done to keep McCartney because if I got to pick between McCartney and Jim Jordan, I'm going with Kevin McCartney.

If I got to pick between Kevin McCartney and Steve Scalise, I'm going with Kevin McCartney. If I got to pick between Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan, I'm going with Steve Scalise. But now we have the worst possible option of the options that seem to be available. You know, either he becomes speaker, or again I don't know what plans c is. We just don't have a speaker and our government is just paralyzed, I guess. So it's one of these two options right now, as far as I can tell, Either we have a horrendous choice for speaker, become speaker, or our government remains paralyzed.

Either way is really I don't know that people realize how bad this is. This is really really bad for the country. So I will criticize the Democrats on that front. Again. I understand why they didn't save McCartney, but damn it, they should have. For the good of the country, they should have. And by the way they could have, they probably felt that there was some sort of, you know, a political risk to doing so why would you because then you know they have to explain to constituents, you know, individual House members on the Democratic side, why why would you vote for a Republican for House speaker?

Why wouldn't you vote for Hakeem Jeffreys And Democrats generally are horrible at messaging, They're not good at explaining things. So it would be even though it's a very difficult concept to understand. See, here's how I would explain it. If I were in that position, here's what I would say. I would say I voted for Kevin McCartney because whomever he would have been replaced with would have been much worse. And as much as I don't approve of the job that Kevin McCartney has done, I thought he was the best option under the circumstances.

We are in the minority. So we're never going to get Hakeem Jefferies as long as we're in the minority. So that's why I voted for Kevin McCartney for the sake of stability and so the House can do its business and so forth. Pretty good, right, I think I would be able to deliver that message pretty clearly if I were in that position, and I in that scenario that I made up. But you know, but the average House Democrat,

they wouldn't be able to say it that way. They just wouldn't. They're I'm constantly amazed at how you know, and I hate to say it. You know, I'm a left leaning guy, but I'm constantly amazed at how poor Democrats aren't messaging just basic stuff like that. They wouldn't be able to pull it off, you know, they'd be tripping all over themselves and trying to figure out how to explain it. So they didn't go there. They you know, they just they'll continue to vote for Achiem Jeffries. But they should have saved McCartney for the good of the country.

They should have saved McCartney because what's happening now is very very bad. It doesn't help anybody, and it's happening at a time where and I don't know, I have no idea if I mean, I'm just speculating wildly. So let me preface this with that. But did Hamas do this when they did this massive terrorist attack on Israel? Did they make that move when they did, because obviously they must have been planning it for a very long time, a very long time to have Did they make that move because they they're looking at America right now and saying, well, Israel depends on America, and America is in disarray at least look at their government, Look at the House of Representatives in America.

What are they going to do. What's America going to do to help? Are they going to give Israel a bunch of financial aid to pay for you know, are they gonna spend a bunch of money to reload the Iron Dome, the defense system that we gave Israel to. I think it came from US, right an American military manufacturer that we gave them to. They need to they need to reload it. They need more ammunition. Is America going to be able to do that? I mean, it wouldn't take a lot of research for someone in Hamas to figure out how our system of government works in terms of the money, in terms of appropriations, in terms of when you have to spend money on things like military equipment like anti aircraft, you know, or not anti aircraft, but what would be the correct term, I don't know.

Whatever the Iron Dome uses to shoe down these incoming missiles. The Iron Dome is very impressive by the way, it works really well. But you know, was somebody in Hamas watching and saying America is on the ropes right now in terms of their government. Their government is not functioning, which means they're going to be in a weak position to help Israel, which means let's go. I mean, I don't know, I don't know if anyone in Jumas figured that out. I don't know if that was part of their plan who knows, probably never know, but I do know this.

We do look weak right now. What's going on in the House is really really bad, especially when you can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Like I said, I see this plane out one of two ways, and both of them, to me, from my point of view, are awful. One is we just indefinitely don't have a speaker, which means our government is indefinitely paralyzed. Or two, we have Jim Jordan, a guy who, like I said, he has voted against every continuing resolution when it's come up. He never votes in favor of it.

He I mean, he really wants to just decimate our federal budget, so he votes against the continuing resolutions. And I have no doubt that he would take us into default if he could. I have no doubt, no doubt in my mind. He's one of these rip the band aid off guys. You know you hear them, right, these House Freedom Caucus people. They say, you know, we actually should default, Let's just get it done, let's just get it over with, just rip the band aid off. It's like, no, no, no, what would happen if we ever defaulted?

I mean, ask an economist. Don't take my word for it. Ask any economists what would happen if we were to actually default. If you want to use that analogy, rip the band aid off, it would not be ripping a band aid off. It would be amputating the entire limb. It's it's the most reckless and stupid thing imaginable. If you'd like to get him with a call six three two five six seven, the studio line is open six O three two five six oh seven. Jay fed in the chat says, this is regarding my drowning analogy with Kevin McCartney.

Uh, he said Phil Collins wouldn't lend a hand. That's true. We know that from that song in the air tonight someone told him they were drowning and he would not lend a hand. Anyway, let me refresh this. I just want to see if there's any kind of an update. Like I said, they had one vote, Jim Jordan failed. I mean, what is he going to This is part part of the what's really interesting about this smeth What is he going to give away? See, we know when McCartney was having to negotiate to win the speakership back in January, he had to keep me with the House Freedom Caucus members and just kept giving stuff away and giving stuff away right to try to bargain for, you know.

And that's how it ended up at a point where it only took one House member to bring about a resolution to have him ousted. I mean, they had to vote on it. But what does how does this dynamic work now that it's with McCartney. You had a I mean basically a conservative, but a moderate moderate slash conservative Republican who had to keep giving away things to the House Freedom Caucus, the very conservative House Freedom Caucus people like Jim Jordan had to keep giving away things to them to get them to either support him or vote present, you know, to let the math work out.

Because Matt Gates never actually voted for McCartney. He voted present. He didn't vote for McCartney. He just finally stopped voting against him. Right, what does Jim Jordan give away to the moderate Republicans who aren'tupport What can he give to them? Is he going to tell them, hey, I'll try not to uh, I'll try not to keep voting against these crs. So that what is he going to give to them? I don't know so that's that's interesting. So I did refresh this the latest update from The Hill dot com.

We'll look at this quickly. In the first round of votes today, the House failed to elect a new speaker. The vote was two hundred for Jordan, two hundred twelve for House Speaker. I'm sorry, House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries, who got the backing of the full Democratic caucus. Yeah, the Democrats are fully united, just as they were in January. So two hundred for Jordan to twelve for Hakim Jeffries. And by the way, for anyone who's wondering, why doesn't well that Hakiem Jeffries got the most why doesn't he become House Speaker.

It doesn't work that way. You have to get a certain number of the whoever is the majority already holding the uh, the House. Uh, so you have to get to two seventeen. Jordan gained some momentum today, I'm sorry, yesterday, rather picking up endorsements from key players who had initially said they would not vote for him. But during the vote over and this was a surprise, during the vote, over a dozen Republicans voted for other options, including former Speaker Kevin McCarthy by the way, keV Uh, I keep saying McCartney, don't I McCarthy.

Uh, he voted for Jim Jordan when it was his time to vote, he did not vote for himself. And Steve Scalise uh voted for Jim Jordan as well. Yeah, so they so h McCarthy and Scalise both got votes. The House has now gone into recess, so I'm assuming, I'm assuming that when they're that they're they're having their meetings while the House is in recess. Now here's who if you're curious, just quickly, here are the Here are the twenty Republicans who voted against Jim Jordan for Speaker Don Bacon of Nebraska, Lori Chavez Diremmer of Oregon, Anthony D. Esposito of New York by the way, Esposito of New York.

That is in a that I know for a fact is in a district. Actually these probably these probably all are, but I know that one is definitely that's a blue district. That's but if you remember in New York in uh in twenty twenty well no, I'm sorry, in twenty twenty two Democrats lost. This is how What's his name, Uh, the lying guy, George Santos. This is that's how he got in. The line guy. Well, that is how he'll go down in history. I guess right. The con man, the lion guy. He got in because the Democrats tried to do some Jerry manderin in New York, but they screwed it up, and they actually screwed themselves anyway.

Mario Diaz Bolart of Florida, Jake Elsey of Texas, Andrew Garbarino of New York, Carlos jim Andez of Florida, Tony Gonzalez of Texas, Kay Granger of Texas. So that's three from Texas so far. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania. Oh, I'm trying to see this the rest of this list, and it loaded something else. I can't get to the rest of the list. We're running out of time anyway. And a bunch of others, a whole bunch of them, all right, Um now the other thing just quickly on this subject rise. Remember I was talking about how you know you've got house appropriations as who decides where the money goes media, it has this up rise of the house appropriators.

GOP strategists notes it isn't terribly sexy, but serious legislators tanked Jim Jordan. Let's look at this quickly and then we got we gotta get to our break and then we'll get our guests son. Former GOP strategist Dan Hay explained on CNN Today why Representative Jim Jordan fell far short of becoming House Speaker during the first floor vote with him as the nominee. He said, quote, one of the really interesting things what we're seeing is that a lot of these no votes on whether they're voting for Scolice or McCarthy, is really the rise of the House appropriators.

And why have we had government shutdowns and a lot of the chaos over these past few years. It's been the failure to have a working, appropriate creation's process, which isn't terribly sexy. But this is what Jordan has said he's going to try and do, and obviously that's been on hold for a while. But if I could say one thing, a lot of this conversation has been Jim Jordan and Donald Trump. Donald Trump caused Jim Jordan. This all predates Donald Trump by years. This is the Tea Party election. This is the pick of Sarah Palin, Eric Canter, my old boss.

Canter's primary loss the twenty thirteen government shutdown, staffing decisions that Steve Scalise made against Jim Jordan. There's a whole lot going on here, and we're talking about a coal mine that is filled with canaries. Donald Trump just came in with the great disrupt and was the great disruptor on what already existed unquote. So there you go. Isaac Banks joins us in the chatroom and says, hello, Matt connorton, how are you doing. Jim Jordan? He is a new president. Come on, Matt connorton, what's the conclusion of Jim Jordan?

Isaac Banks? Of course, our friend from Greensboro, North Carolina. It is actually my pleasure to inform you, to get you caught up that no, Jim Jordan is not our new president, nor do I suspect he will at any point in the future be a nominee. But he is nominated for House Speakers, So lucky, lucky, Yes, Okay, we are approaching the top of the hour. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to show some love to our very amazing sponsors and then we will be back.

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Oh excuse me, and we've got a great band with us in studio. That song you just heard actually Human Emotion, which is brand new from these guys. So let me bring those mics up. So at the news desk we have Eric who is back with us from Best Not Broken. Welcome back, Thank you Matt. Good to see you today, Yes, good to see you. And on the couch we have Mark who Now you were not here last time. Correct, that's correct, we had our drummer. But I'm also bald and I play in the rhythm session, so I guess it's fine, perfect, perfect, well, welcome and I love that.

I love that song. We have some other songs we're going to be planned too, but this is so these are really like brand new, right, fresh little fresh off of the mastering press. Yeah, oh, fantastic. Yeah. I think I think last time we were here, you had two singles, two tunes that were on this EP that we candidly we thought was going to be released by now we're a little late. That never happens in the music business. It's now the EP will be coming out on November three. Okay, So last time we shared two songs, I Don't Belong and low Lights that are the first and closing track on that EP, and the song you just heard, Human Emotion is one of the other three, and I think you have a couple of the others.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're gonna we're gonna play some more today. Yeah, absolutely, so November third, is it? Is it an EP? Or a full album. It's an EP EP how many songs? Five songs? Five songs? Okay, And we probably talked about this before, but what goes into that decision to you know, because you have a lot of options. You can do an EP, you can do an album, you could just release a bunch of singles. Just so many different ways you can you can approach it these days, what went into the decision to make an epoo?

Well, yeah, it's a really good question. You know, like the music industry is changing by the week, and so like we've gone through all kinds of you know, various thought processes. You know, we've always wanted to do candidly a full length album just because you tend to get more attention from the press, a little bit more to talk about. And it's one of those things that, hey, we did an album. But the reality is, you know, the world today largely at least music listeners largely have add and they only want to listen to your best song and and if they don't like track number two, they're not gonna play it anyway.

So, you know, we we wanted to go in and do a batch of songs that felt like, okay, here's a group of stuff that kind of shows where the band is right now. Yeah, we've done a bunch of singles in the past and those are all you know, they're fine, but we wanted to put something out that had a little bit more of a little bit more of a statement to it. Yeah, but we decided it didn't make sense to do the full length. It's a lot of time, very expensive and candidly, as I said, you know, sometimes you don't get to listen.

So we thought this was the best way to go for us today, right, right? And how long has the band always been the three of you or well for the recent history anyway, I mean this is kind of the this is are the Carlo and Mark and I. I guess it's probably been six or seven years. How many years as seven seven? Yeah, Yeah, Mark knows best. He's been timing every day, I know what you mean. Yeah, right, but yeah, we've sort of been I would say this version of the band has kind of been the you know, the version of best not broken that's ultimately produced what we think we're most about.

Yeah, you know that we've been We've all been kicking around for a long time and we've the band has taken many forms, but this is the this is the version that we we've all had a good time with for the last seven years or so. Yeah, excellent, excellent. Uh. If you have any questions or feedback or anything at all for the band, the studio line is open six oh three two five oh six oh seven six o three two five oh six oh seven. You can also text us at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six.

Uh. I'm on social media at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at matt connorton dot com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do so that we can here and enjoy your dulcin tones is give us a call at six o three two five oh six oh oh seven. We do have a question in the chat room. Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina. I don't remember if the Greensboro contingent were contingent were in the chat room last time you were here, they might have been Okay.

Yeah, if you if you start hearing some very odd questions like the one I'm about to ask you, you'll know it's You'll you'll remember from Greensboro you'll remember question. Yes, yeah, Mark is in charge of all odd questions. That's what we guess. All right, well this one is for you then, Mark best not broken? How are you doing? Fellas? And I love the song? And what's your favorite Fastball song?

Okay, that is truly I'll let you go ahead, you go, let me add question. I can only I can only think of one. Listen, have they had a couple? Right? Had the Way and the fire Escape? And another one? Why we're talking about this recently? Yeah, we actually used to. So we do some cover tunes and we actually used to cover the song The Way by Fastball. Yeah. So I actually I appreciate the question because that's a They're a pretty cool band, and uh, you know, they have some similarities, but with what we do, I would say harmonies, yeah, guitar, guitar, pop sort of stuff.

Yeah. I don't have extensive knowledge of their back catalog, so I'm gonna be really basic and I'll say the Way. But I think I learned that when they started out, they had more of a punky edge to them on their earlier stuff. And I remember listening back the one time and it was really really fun, really different. Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, The Way is the only song I can remember there is. I don't know if they I mean, did they have any other actual hits. I think they had one other hit and I can't remember the name Escape.

Yeah, okay, I don't remember that one, but if I heard it, I'd probably recognize it. Yeah. Jay Fad from the Great State of Raman says, I just want to know about beards, growing them or increasing the length. Now, Mark, you've got some You've got some beard there. I know this is pretty short for me too, is it. Yeah? I always keep mind very short. I can't. I'm not like I don't. I can't grow it out. One. Well, it starts to itch and oh it's terrible. You got to get past that point. You got you gotta brave it and then you got to comb it and it gets rid of the itch and it makes it nice and soft.

Yeah, you know, attention to detail for sure. You don't want to drying out or anything, you know. Yeah, in a mission that makes sense. Yeah, now, Eric, you have you ever had a beard? I've never. In fact, that was one of when we were recruiting Mark. That was one of their criteria because Carlow and I at the time said we're never going to grow a beard. I had never been able to get past that uncomfortable stage. Yeah, and uh so Mark was sort of our designated beard guy, and he's I think he's been representing pretty well.

Yeah, and various lengths of course, for sure, Carlo. At best he grows a creepy mustache once in a while. Yeah, Carlo, if you're listening, it's very very in the soul patch. We got to talk about that later. Oh wow, Yeah, what like seventies porn type creepy? Is it's pencil thin John waters Asque, No, not quite that, but yeah, it's a vibe for sure. Isaac Banks says in the chat room, best not Broken. My favorite song from Fastball is fire Escape, and the CD was All the Money you Can Buy. That's right, I remember that familiar I remember that.

Yes, Yes, And hello to our friend Melanie Liberty, who was in the Facebook live chat. I'm Melanie, and let's see you got anybody else? Oh and after the Winter a great band who was on the show recently there and there, Hello, guys, Yes, after the Winter, see after the you know, because we were talking about how I don't was that audio or off air we're talking about this. I think it was off. That was off air? Was off? Yeah, I was. I was saying to I was saying to these guys, I don't like fall that much because aside from the leaves, I don't like what fall leads to.

I'm a spring and summer guy. When I when After the Winter was on the show show, I said, where does the name come from? And the singer whose name escapes me unfortunately, but great band, great guys. But he said after the winter it's the best time, and I said, yes, it is, isn't it. I agree, After the winter it's a relief. It's like you got through winter and now you've got spring and then you got summer. Absolutely. I like that. Yeah, Like, yeah, have you guys been playing a lot of shows or have you been more focused on the EP?

Well, we've been actually a little bit of a mix. We've had some some fun shows, busy summer. It's been a busy summer. We've been really kind of cram and you know, as I mentioned that we're late on the EP, we had hoped to have it out kind of late summer. We had a strange string of complications with like our last tune, trying to get it ready, and then some deliberations as to what should actually land on the EP. But yeah, so we spent a lot of time working on that, trying to get it done and try to get it done right, and so that has taken some time, but we've had some good shows.

I think the last time we were here, we were just getting ready for our gig with the Smashing Pumpkins, which we were thinking was going to be a really weird show for us. Oh yeah, because an inter Pol was there and and who's the something Suns right? Uh, I'm gonna say the wrong name, but we should I'm not going to. But nonetheless we thought it was gonna be a weird show. It actually turned out to be a lot of fun. It was again, we had a great response, and it was a really good time. You know, because our music has mellowed since you know, we we all listened to Smashing Pumpkins, but our music has mellowed and so now it's not really in line with what they do.

So we figured all these guys, you know, listen to a song or two of ours and walk on by. But actually it was cool. They hung around, we got to meet a guy, I guess, the bass player from the Pumpkins and the band player for They came down hang out a little bit and that was fun. They're going for a little bike ride and came down said Hi, yeah, yeah, good good group. So that was a good show. But we've got this this Friday. We're down at Salisbury Beach at Blue Ocean Music Hall with the Bacon Brothers and that's Kevin Bacon and his brother.

A lot of people don't know that Kevin plays in a band and is actually a great musician, and as this is brother, Yeah yeah, so and I our thinking is that's going to be a better you know, configuration because they're sort of doing and there, and we've been asked to play acoustic, which we do occasionally, and they're kind of in an acoustic configuration. So I don't know. We thought that would be a good you know, a good fit, but maybe it won't. They have this sort of eclectic style, you know, it's like a mix of rock and Americana and jazz and folk, and I don't know, it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

We're just gonna do our thing. That's all we can do, I guess, right, so we can do what they do because I've always been aware of the Bacon brothers. But do they is it just the two of them or do they have a band? They have a band? Okay, yeah, but but this show it's they're doing an acoustic thing. Well they're playing with the full band, but they they play with the full band, they bring in a lot of acoustic instruments. Okay, gotcha, cars, and there's an acoustic orientation to it. Oh cool. I presume they'll probably do some electric stuff as well.

But yeah, yeah, but we're going to be all acoustic for that gig. Have you guys done much of that doing acoustic shows or is this a rarity? What do you think? Mark? We've done a few Blue Ocean alone. I think we've done two more before this. Yeah, well with who the guests who maybe acoustics with the guests who, And we did one other acoustic the Tubes. I think it was Oh wow. So yeah, so we've done we've done some acoustic stuff. You know. Actually, I mean our music mostly is produced in an electric format, but a lot of it is written on the acoustic guitar with acoustic instruments, so it translates reasonably.

Well. Yeah, and you know our music is largely about the melodies and the harmonies, so that usually works in an acoustic format. Oh, absolutely, hoping it will go well. And where where is the EP? Is it all recorded in the same place, same studio? Yeah? So well, actually no, not all recorded. It was a mix of studios. So we did some of the work at Revel Resound Studios, which is actually right here in Manchester. Okauddy Matt Blanchard, Who's I'm sorry, Matt Planchett, thank you. Matt is Mark is also in charge of corrections, beards and corrections.

I think I've interviewed him. Yeah, he's in a group called Paper Monsters. Yes, really good guy. I interviewed him, but long time ago. I should reach out to it. It's like it was like seven or eight years ago that I interviewed him, believe it or not. Yeah, but but he was in Paper Monsters at the time. But but interview it was on another show that I do that Arizon another station actually but he uh yeah, but but he and he played on the show just acoustic guitar. But but it's still on for anyone who wants it.

It's it's still online. It's uh. The show is called Local Outbreak and it's uh. They can look that up. It's either under paper Monsters or Matt Planchet to google it. It's there. But yeah, very talented. Yeah, that's a great guy. And he's so he still plays, but he also does he's an awesome producer and recording engineer. So we did some work with him and we recorded a batch of it down at Woolle Mammoth Studios in Waltham, math mass with our buddy Dave Minahan, who you may know from past the Boston area stuff.

But he's uh, yeah, he plays in a band, played in a band called the Neighborhoods, and you know he was sort of like the the sitting guitar player for Aersmith for a while. Uh and and with the replacements, right. So also, you know, a guy with a great musical ear, but has spent in the last thirty years becoming an awesome producer. So we've record We recorded most of the stuff at Willy, some of it came back to Matt for mixing, and then we sent it up to was former league Gateway and now I N Mastering in Portland, Maine, who does a lot of awesome work with Grammy nominees that we're just happy to be you know, have oo.

We're not there yet, we've had nominations not for that. Well, very cool. Well let's uh, let's hear another track from the I'll let you guys pick. So we played, we played Human Emotion. What what what would you like me to play next? We've got that's the way she likes it? Uh, line awake or and yeah, what don't we do? That's the way she likes it? Okay, and we'll we'll play all of them before the end of the show. Yeah. Actually, so here's an interesting question for your listeners if they're kicking around the we're trying to figure out what what single, what should be the next single.

So our first single off of this EP was I Don't Belong, which you played last time? Yeah, yeah, and we had we had a song in mine to be the next single. But now that we've all heard everything right a gazillion times, we're sort of like, wait, is that really the right one? So so if you have an opinion as you listen to these next tunes, if you have an opinion as to which one you think should be the next single, let us know, but this is one of the candidates. It's like a like a focus group. I like it.

You just give me an idea for a podcast? Actually, okay, single? Yeah, but uh yeah, all right, let's give this a listen. So this is that's the way she likes it. Oh, what's the name of the EP, by the way, or if it feels right, If it feels right, that's the name of the EP. Yeah, okay, I had an Okay, so this is from there. This is from the upcoming EP. If it feels right, from best not broken here it is. That's the way she likes it. It's quartered ten and we torn off the bed. It's Saturday morning with Friday Champagne turning alarm off talking about movies.

She wants to see Dirty Dance, and again everyone knows she's shy and goes joy leave of my imagine s a way she said, you don't even know.

She sees me walk blushes. It's fast tomorrow, it's just the same. It's a party somewhere down the tempt Ruth deck dancing in the wind. She calls me amazing. Shecus me her, I'm thinking it's calming. But dreams are musians and our mom is father knows. She's shy, likes showing a host of fast and they shine fast away. She s she don't even know the name, exees me flushes. It's hermrow. It's just the same,

the same for snay. But there'll be no what here singing, I say,

chess agathings. Maybe she doesn't lust is the blushing. Maybe I'm rushing the song. She's perfectly placed in my imagination. Maybe it's where she did.

That's where shown sym solid side, perfect everywhere. That's the way she likes it. She don't even know the name. She sees me home by the blushes suns, but it's just the same. That's good, that is that's the way she likes it. That is the band Best Not Broken, And that's from their upcoming EP. If it feels right and you are hearing these for the first time, by the way, and we've got a couple of the guys from Best Not Broken here in studio with us. Eric and Mark are here and great song, guys, I love it.

Thanks, Thank you, really good. First time I've heard it in big headphones. Yeah yeah, well it sounds fantastic, by the way, I just got an email now This didn't come directly to me. This was actually somebody emailed the station here at w M and H. But they're listening, and then somebody forwarded this to me. Thank you, Joe Laar from Carol Mitchell. Carol says I'm a big fan of Best Not Broken, and they sent a message to me that they will be live at five today. I've been listening since I saw the message and made Pizzell's Pizzelli's while listening.

I really like this station and I've bookmarked it. Thank you. I am from Hudson, mass So there you go. Thank you, Carol. You know you must know what a pizzelli is. I don't what the heck is that supposed to mean. I don't know. No, I think they're cookies of some sort. Okay, oh it's a fancy dessert cookie, I believe. Oh okay, thanks Carol. Well, very good. Yes, good to you. Hear from you, Carol, Yes, thank you, Carol, very nice, very nice. And if you have anything for the band, the studio line is open.

Six three two five six oh seven six three two five six seven. Maria and Bannis shows us in the Facebook live chat. She says, I'm loving their music. Ronda Favero says, love it. It has a nineteen sixties flavor, very melodic. Yeah. I was thinking too, there's and we may have talked about this before, but there's your music that there's a timelessness to it in that I feel like it would fit into any era and not sound not sound dated. It would just sound current at any time. Does that make sense, Like it's not something you can like, like, you know, she made the observation that song as kind of a sixties flavor, but you wouldn't necessarily date it to any particular period.

Yeah, if that makes sense. What we're hoping most is that people like it today exactly. But no, I appreciate that, you know, I mean, I think, you know, we all Mark and I, being the primary songwriters of the band, draw references from different time periods, and you know we you know, I love the Beatles, I love the Beach Boys, a lot of that older stuff. I love a lot of contemporary stuff. That particular song has been kicking around in my head for probably twenty years, right, so it definitely draws on earlier influences, and we weren't quite sure how to produce it.

But Dave Minihan down at Wooly Mammoth put a lot of those harmonies in there and sort of sucked out that sort of sixties like you know, Beach Boys beat a less. Yeah, actually said a lot of the harmonies. The first time I heard a mix, I heard all these high harmonies, I'm like, I don't think that's Eric up there'ne yet so really good? Oh that's cool. So that's so that song was in your head for a long time, but you didn't hear it that way the way that it came out. Uh, And it was pretty close, you know, you know, you always you try to get it as close as you can to your vision, you know, from your music days, and you never hit it on the mark right, and you hope you come as close as you can, and you hope that whenever you get there, that it's at least something you like.

And all of all of these songs are in that phase where like, I don't know yet if I like them right, because they're not. We were just sort of like hearing them fully finished. Now, that was the first time really I've heard in big heaf moones. So wow, No, we I always like that melody. It's a very simple song, and it took a long time to sort of come up with a verse and a pre course that sort of matched it. But we always liked the melody and always felt like it should have, you know, some heavy harmonies and that kind of a treatment.

So you know, I appreciate that comment. It's that's probably probably the right comment for this song. So that's very cool, cool cool. Melanie La Liberty from the Gray State of Vermont. She says in the chat room, did they say the girl in song liked to watch Dirty Dancing? Yeah, no, one should date someone who likes to watch that movie. It's an immediate red flag. Yes, right, right, yeah, yes, which is another song? Right? Oh yeah, we didn't bring that today, but and Isaac Banks says, we say best not Broken.

Have you never listened to Matchbox twenty song Long Day? I think everyone's heard that song. Yeah. You really couldn't exist on planet Earth without having heard that song at one time. And actually it's interesting because the one of the next songs that you're going to play, there's a part of it that actually reminds me specifically of that song of Long Day by Oh No Kid Mashbucks. There's just this quick melodic thing. Yeah, that sounds kind of like Mashbucks one. Oh okay, all right, yeah, so the so I'm sorry, not the album, the EP comes out.

What did you say to the day? Was again? November third? November third Friday. Now, you probably have a lot of I assume you have a lot of material that didn't end up on on the EP. Is that is that difficult when you're trying to figure out because you would even reference something about a song, you were trying to figure out what was going to go on the EP and what wasn't. Is that is that hard when you because I assume after quite a few years, you've got a lot of material, I would imagine, so to try to narrow that down to figure out what's going to go on the EP?

I mean, obviously there's things you can always release later on, but is that a difficult decision? And and with with three of you in the band, is it hard to really get everybody get everybody to agree? Yeah? I got to start sure. Yeah. Yeah. There's another song that we actually recorded during the sessions for this that it has a slightly different and vibe and it it's a little bit behind in the mixing stage, so we decided to save it potentially for a single down the line or some other kind of release.

Who knows it's a song I did, and I'm very persnickety, all types of problems. But yeah, we also have songs that, you know, we'll practice for a while, it will get them sounded good, and I'll be like, ah, this doesn't really fit what we're going for, and then of course inevitably we'll come back to it. A month. I was like, you know what, I think there's something to that, right, And then a couple of weeks later, I'm like, no, no, let's move on, move on. Yeah, yeah, we have this one song. It's actually one of the first songs that Best not Broken ever performed as an original band, and the name of this song is Best Not Broken.

Yeah, right, And so we for for a long time we played it live and then we're like, ah, this isn't really us anymore. Let's set it aside. I mean, we want to if we're gonna put a song out with our name, it's got to be the right song. And then like it resurfaced, like you know, five six years later. We played it for one then I went away, and lately we've been doing it again and like it kind of has a new vibe to it, and we're like, actually, maybe it's kind of more relevant than we thought. This has been around for probably twenty years.

Yeah, it's gotten a good reaction lately. And I forgot we actually did record the bones of it at least. Yeah, maybe for this, you know, this could have been like a seven song, like like a long EP, you know. Yeah, yeah, but again we just kind of it's about time and money and schedule. So it's tough. You know, Mark and I are both songwriters and like you know, trying to like even with your own material. You know, I have a bunch of stuff I've written. Its same from Mark where it's like, you know, if I have a hundred ideas, probably twenty of them fit in the Best Not Broken bucket, right, there's a much of other Like I at some point we'll release the country album and a folk album and all the d but it's a long way off once I retire from Best Not Broken.

But and Mark the same. You know, he's got you know, pop punk songs, and he's got like rock anthems and all kinds of stuff, but finding songs that like can come together and sit on the same EP and feel like, okay, this is kind of where the band is today and it sounds right and works together. Especially with two songwriters, it's hard to do and so yeah, it's not an easy decision. And you know something we stress over every time. Yeah, yeah, no doubt is now does Carlo write anything or is it? Yeah, well, Carlo is our lead bridge writer.

Actually that's true. I have a this filthy habit of writing really linear, long, rambling bridges that just had part after part after part before you finally get to the chorus again. And Carlos always like, hey, cut the crap, like, just do this part, cut out those other six parts and then we'll go right back to the chorus and that's it, and like whatever, fine, But I think low Lights was actually like a minute longer our new song that you played last time, and actually we're supposed to have like a saxophone, so wasn't supposed to be is it something that we're thinking of sacks or something like that, And then it just got axed because it wasn't coming together and Carlo put his foot down again.

But that's the only time we let him get creative input on the bridges. So he's like an editor and he well, he thinks he's the lead editor. Carlo, if you're listening, you're the lead editor and best nut broken of course you. Mark and I always talk behind the scenes and make sure that we're comfortable with his editing. But right right, Melanie, a lot of liberty in the chat room says how many layers of shirts is desk guy wearing? It seems excessive? Are you on screen right now? Yeah? I didn't realize that I was actually on camera.

Well, yes, so I actually contemplated that. So I'm I'm a guy that gets didn't think of it. I get very very easily, and I don't like to, you know, if I'm shivering and I'm talking, it's it's awkward. So I figured I'm better off being warm than I am being cold. And I got out of the cars that I'm going to throw my jacket on just because I you know, it's sort of a he wants to look good, you know, and I will, and I want to look good. It's best I can, it's best I possibly can. I'm counting two shirts in a jacket.

Is there another one on under that? Two shirts and a jacket? Okay, Yeah, that's not that accessive. It doesn't seem excessive. But you know, I could see we're you might if you're looking from a distance, and Isaac Banks in the chat room says, I guess this is for you, specifically, Eric. He said hashtag Eric for I'm Best not broken. What's your favorite song of the Beach Boys? Okay, that's a tough question. That's a tough question. My favorite Beach Boys tune?

Now, I'm struggling to think of the It's been so long since I've listened to, actually listened to the Beach Boys. I'm struggling to think. I always go, wouldn't it be nice or good? Vibrations? I mean they're not deep cuts at all. Other words, Yeah, I mean vibrations Right now, I don't know that I could pick one off the top of my head. Yeah, I think I listened to the Beach Boys more just for the harmony singing right right, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So I'll have to get back to I'll have to get back to that one.

I apologize for not having an answer today. He also as exactly. He also asks what's your favorite song of the Outfield? All the Love in the World or your Love, So he gave you two choices. Well, thank you. I appreciate the choices. So your Love would probably be it, which I think is a great tune. And we actually we did that one for a while too. In fact, I remember when we when we did a few we did a couple of shows with Pat bennettar Oh no kidding. This is a number of years ago, and that was our That was our hit cover tune that we put right in the middle of the original set.

Yeah. I like that. It's a good two. I can picture you guys doing that. Did Do you have an answer for that? Mark, I'd go with the other one. With the other one, Yeah, Your Love is. When I was a kid and I took guitar lessons, that was the first song I ever learned. Is it really? Yeah? That I could probably still play it today and I haven't picked up a guitar. I'm a bass player, but I started on guitar. Yeah, and uh yeah, it's just you know, because it's so easy. It was a good starting point, you know that.

But you know what's interesting about that tune is that the the rhythm of the guitar is sort of syncopated in an interesting way. Like I think he I don't know whether he thought about it or that's just sort of how it came out. But if I were to have written that, I probably would have kept it straight. But he had this little bit of a syncopation to it, which it makes all the difference in the world. Yeah, really digging that. Yeah, absolutely, Let's play another track? You guys, sure what? Uh? What should we what should we go with?

Well? Uh, I think you have Lying Awake, which is another track from the EP. Yeah, right, yeah, that's all the next one to go with. We'll go with that one, okay. Kind of a different vibe in this one. Yeah. Oh interesting, Okay, and remember everybody, if anyone has an idea of what they think the single the next single should be, we are focus grouping,

so here we go. Okay. So this is this is called line awake from Best Not Broken. I see the fade Knights who can never high Rise. I'm on the third and second floor in the middle of it. Now, someone I don't red egg good guys, I shouldn't have done this, but in one happen and now I truly captivated by the abuse. Whoa saying God knows him on the bank just a little bit, Who please say to stay fade? This life does change, set this moment, trade lot, I can tell the rising sun shouldn't have stayed uplifered against an habit and fun a lot of.

I can tell the rising sun shouldn't have stayed up. Shouldn't have stayed up? Oh lot a, I can tell the risin sun shouldn't have stayed uplifed against the habit fun that a way I can tell the risin sun shouldn't have stayed it up, should to stay it up? You know the window we did the time boo, we could have died three times? Girl with up you were out? Take it off? Oh we gotta beat the falloon now? Who it was a good shown. I know. I'll just sing around the band hitting the notes. Side can't but I got the words all stuck in my head and I can't let it go.

These things they made. This life does change, set this moment, cray, Yeah, I can tell the ras and the sum shouldn't stayed I'm delivered against some habit, but not a way. You can tell the ras and the sun shouldn't have stayed up. You shouldn't have stayed up? Oh lotta, I can tell their hazards. Sun shouldn't have stayed I'm delivered against the habit, but I don't you can tell their asses sum should have stayed up? You shouldn't have stayed up? You know. I don't think until there has a sum, shouldn't say it.

I'm believing against an I don't know you can tell there has a sum shouldn't have stayed up? You shouldn't have stayed up? Oh, I don't. I can tell the reason shouldn't say it. I'm belisted against. I don't I tell the shouldn't have stayed I don't even till the ras and the sun shouldn't say it. I'm living against a but not way you can tell there has and some shouldn't have stayed up. Shouldn't have stayed up? That I can tell there has, so shouldn't say it. I'm liking against them that way, I can tell there as such should all right?

So far I vote for that one. That is line awake. The band is Best Not Broken, and you are hearing these for the first time anywhere my friends, and we have Eric and Mark from Best Not Broken here with us live in studio. And if you have any thoughts on what should be the next single. We've been playing a few songs. We have one more to go that we will play before the end of the show. But I love that song. That is so catchy, cool, Thank you. We're really happy how it turned out. That was a big journey, that whole song.

Yeah, the production and everything. Yeah, the production is is more. It sounds a little more sophisticated, and that there's a lot to it electronically that that maybe isn't any other songs. Yeah, it's very moody, but what so was that challenging to do that? It sounds like a are the for example of the drums, are they is that all electronic? Or is you know? I I know Carlo recorded drums to that song. It sounds like maybe there's some samples in there. Yeah, there are so the there's a there is a real life drum track in that tune.

In fact, the whole thing has a real live drum track. But there are we this is the tune where we still let's bring in some more contemporary samples and try and play with a little bit and and give it more of a contemporary vibe. And so there are pieces where we've woven in some electronic drums and some electronic percussion in different parts to kind of give it that kind of a vibe. But it's really kind of a mix of acoustic drums and normal acoustic drums and some electronic stuff. Okay, wow, definitely works.

Now, I think that's a hit single right there. I really do think it's very very catchy. It sounds very contemporary. No, really good. Glad to hear that. Thank you, great chorus. Now, who wrote that? Did you guys write that together? Or who wrote that? That is a That is an Eric tune? Okay, these tunes often, you know, they start in someone's head and then they come into the band, and then the band sort of makes them band tunes. Yeah, but that started in my head. That's more recent one, actually, that's that's yeah.

Yeah, that was one of the last ones to kind of come into the picture, I think, aside from the Mountain, which is the song where referencing early, I didn't quite make it to this one, right. Yeah, No, that's that's really good. If you're just joining us, we've got two thirds of a best not Broken in studio with us. We have Eric and Mark and if you have any questions at all or any feedback for the band six three two five oh six oh seven. Is the studio line six O three two five oh six oh seven. Uh. The EP comes out November, did you say?

November? Fourth? November? Third, November third off by a day, that's all right, And it's called if it Feels Right, Yes, if it feels right, yep. It's got five tracks on it and uh, this is yeah. We have one more that we'll play in a little bit, but uh yeah, really good stuff. But that's anyway, that's that would be my my pick for the single. Cool. I'm glad to hear that. But we'll see what happens when we play the can all change? Do you have a pick mark? By the way, have you no? No, I'm a I'm Switzerland, you're Switzerland.

Really do you have a pick? Eric in mind? Uh? Well, it's interesting, so I can so. The last song that you're gonna play is not one that's going to be in this it's a per song we ever wrote from years and years old, so you can hear you know how far we've come in a sense, but so human emotion and that's the way she likes it. And lying Awake or the three tunes that you played today that are on the new EP, and I always thought that that's the way she likes it would be the single, the next single. Yeah, But as as are these songs have evolved, and as we've listened to them more like you, I've sort of gravitated a little bit too Lying Awake, just because it has more of a contemporary vibe.

It's it's kind of like there's a groove that's sort of affectious, you know. I like the melodies to that's the way she likes it. But I've been singing in my head for so long I don't I no longer have any sense of objectivity. So depending on either your listeners or somebody else to tell us what should be. So far, we got one for line Awake. I'm digging that. Yeah, Yeah, definitely Isaac Banks and the Shoffer masks. Mark, it looks like this one is for you, he said, hashtag Mark, what's your favorite ABC song?

I can only think of what do you remember? ABC? No? I can only think of one. Uh that song Isaac shoot that poison arrow through My That's the only ABC song I can remember. I got nothing for you. I'm really sorry. Yeah, I feel like they might have had one or two other hits, but that's the only one I can remember. Shoot that Poise. I think it's called Shoot that Poison Arrow. Isaac is giving us some good listening homework. We'll be going home and checking all this stuff out. That's right, that's right now.

Are you guys obviously the EP will be out soon. Are you already thinking about the next one and planning anything for the next one or are you just focused on getting this one out and then playing a lot of shows or what? Yeah, well, we've been focused on this. I mean we have there are a bunch of tunes, as Mark said earlier's a bunch of tunes we've had kicking around for a long time, and you know, there are things in the kitty, so you know, I mean, we're musicians. At some point we'll go record more stuff, but right now, the job is to get this released and go play some shows to support it and see how it goes.

Yeah. Yeah, just to get us out will be a victory for sure. Yeah. It's funny. This has been definitely probably been definitely probably Yeah. Well it's this EP has caused the most, uh, it's been the most challenging to release it. I don't know why, because it's like the tunes are the easiest tunes probably we put out, but like for some reason it's been the most challenging. I think we were a courage Yeah, I was. I was definitely Yeah. Came into play. Miriam Vanish in the chat room says, I was feeling a little bare naked ladies vibe with that last song.

The one before that felt like a song called there she goes, not sure who sings that? I love the harmonies? Oh, the one before? Okay, so the one before, which was that's the way she likes that, that's the way she likes it, so she goes. Actually, that's a huge compliment. In fact, when we called the we were talking to the PR people about these tunes and they were asking about that song, and they said, what songs can you compare it to? And I said, if people compare this to there she goes by the laws, I'm going to be really thrilled because that's Oh that was probably one of my all time favorite tunes.

And I'm sure somewhere back when I was dreaming up the melody, there was some piece of that was in my head. So yeah, yeah, that's cool. To hear that somebody picked that up. Oh very cool. Yeah, uh, Will Vegas of course, so from Will's autocare is in the chat room, he says, Oh, he says, hello everyone. Rumor has it that Best Not Broken play a great cover of gg Allen's drink Fight and blank hashtag. We say, oh, definitely, yeah, I can. I can imagine you guys, only for the Late night show. It's a fifth set song, right right, we get into some GGI antics, Clothes come off, things get thrown, you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, we appreciate you humoring the soft rocky. I know, Matt, you're a you're a hard rock guy right back from back in the day. I did play in some pretty heavy bands. Yeah, so this is like, this is like Lionel Richie g Ritchie Man. That's a that's a mashup. Oh. Isaac Banks is reminding me of other ABC songs now because I can't think of any The look of Love, She's got, the look, she's got, the look familiar at all. Yeah, I've heard that song O Look of Love and and when Smokey Sings that was their other big hit.

According to Isaac Banks, you remember that one when smokey sings. I can only barely remember myself, but yeah, yeah, hashtag Eric you'll know who this is from? What's your favorite? Sixpence? None? The richer song? Only one I know is kiss Me. I think that's their only hit, isn't it. All I can say is I struggled to come up with the Beach Boys here right right? So yeah, I don't have an answer to that. Yeah, And Miriam said definitely meant as a compliment about there she goes you. Do you ever, you know when when in terms of talking about things that you've been inspired by, and you were you were inspired by that song?

Do you ever do either of you guys ever write anything where you you've written a song and then you kind of realize it maybe it's sounds too close to something that you were inspired by, or does that ever happen? This has been a topic of conversation on another show that I'm on that I'm a co host so on Retrospectral Radio about you know when when artists, you know, they write something and then they very often it's just subconscious. They don't they don't mean to write something that's too close to what somebody else has already done.

But it just it happens because everybody's inspired by something or influenced by something. Does that ever happen to you, guys? I know for sure it has. I'm I don't know if I can come up with a specific example, but I know there's many times where I'll play something and I'll be like, I think that's really good, and I'll have like a demo recorded, and then I'll be shuffling stuff on my phone and then all of a sudden, like this song will play from like twenty years ago, like, ah, crap, yeah, I can't do it's too close.

Yeah, it's not even like you know, one of our songs, Like people are comparing it to these other songs and you're like, oh, yeah, no, I guess I could see that. It's kind of like, no, I just stole that. I didn't mean too. I can't put this song out. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really interesting you asked that because literally, just yesterday, so I had this tune that you know, I always keep it on my phone. I keep a list of like the top ideas that are candidates for the next EP, and I've got about twenty tunes kicking around, and I had this one that I really liked a little, the chorus to it, and and literally I think I was washing the dishes and a song came on the radio and it was that song.

Oh it was, And it was literally so close to the song that I said, there's no way that I didn't hear that song immediately before. It was probably like, yeah, lying on the couch, you know, at midnight, and I heard the song and then like five minutes later I forgot I heard it and wrote it again, right, yeah, Yeah, So that was a I had to cross that one off. I said, that's just too close. Now. Most of the time, you know, it's funny because there were so many songs that sound like other tunes. Yes, most of the time I get to the point where I say, you know what, all right, it's close, but it's not, you know, it's not too close.

Yeah, but that one was too close. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to avoid it entirely because there's so many there's so many chord progressions that are just right, and you know, bits of melodies that are just so common in music. And yeah, we did. We did a few shows on Retrospectrum Radio, the Friday Night Show about plagiarism, and and Paul the Polly See the hosts, he kept up playing. He would play, we would do kind of a compare thing, compare and contrast. You know, all these different examples of where someone was accused of playiasis and whatnot.

And on a lot of them, you know, my I should have had a gavel because on many of these examples, my verdict was not guilty because and my argument was, look, the chord progression in this song is, yeah, it might sound like this other song, but it also sounds like a million other songs, you know, because there's just certain things that just show up a lot absolute music. So it's hard to avoid it entirely. It's it's so true, it's really hard to I mean, but it's it's incredible to me, honestly, having you know, studied and played music for a really long time that you can have you know, there are only like seven notes in in a scale, and there and after that you're repeating notes again, and there are only so many courts, and like most pop tunes really are three or four cords.

So with the small set of chords that are available, the small set of notes that are available, it's incredible to me that people are still writing original music, because you'd think that everything would have been written by now. Well, I try to push the envelope sometimes, but you know this is where Carlo holds. Yeah, I try to put five or maybe six scores in there. Convers no too many pulls. Well, he is the editor, I know he is. I thought he was going to be calling in. I he is. We sent him off to drum camp.

He had a couple four gigs and we said, Carlo, you gotta go, you gotta go study. So I thought he was going to call in from drum camp. But apparently he's not, at least not as of yet. By the way, does he play in any other bands? And the reason I'm curious about this is I swear every every band I've I've had on the show for the past year, their drummer is in like ten different bands. I I I don't know when the last was that I interviewed a band where the drummer was only in that one band. Is Carlo in Like, Well, it's funny, I'm I'm pleased to say right now he's not.

Oh okay, right, but he was so when we first started, he was he was in another band from the area, and uh, we were kind of on the same circuits. How we knew each other. Yeah, and ultimately they they went away and we didn't. And so he's with us, but currently no, but he he definitely has Uh, he's had his moments, you know. Yeah, you know, he's There's not a ton of good drummer around, so you know, they're the good drummers are sought after and they get those calls. Well, I've always had a theory that you know, when you're growing up and you're first wanting to learn to play an instrument, and you talk to your parents about it, you know, I want to I want to learn to play something.

If it's drums, your parents are going to actively discourage you, of course from you know, drums. Now that's too much. Why I want to take up guitar, bass or something, drums or piano or something. But so that's that's my theory why drummers are just in short supply because nobody's parents wants a drum set in the house. I think there's true to that. Yeah, nobody wants to learn on an electric kit. I think it's not quite the same. I mean, they're pretty amazing but the same right right, yeah, exactly, Well, I want to make sure we get We have one more song to play, and I am curious to play this because now this so this is going back to the beginning of the band.

Look at what Look what You did? I'm sorry, yeah, they Look what You Did is the name of the song. It's it's the first song that we ever recorded, and I'm trying to remember. I think it was. I think we put it out in twenty twelve. I think it's twenty twelve, yes, and we were working on it for a little while before that. But yeah, so this is the first tune we ever recorded. We did this down with Dave Minahan at Willie Mammoth. Okay, and you know, so you can hear the difference from where we started and where we are now.

And it was the lineup as it exists today, totally different. Oh, you were not here. I joined the band I think a twenty fifteen. Oh okay, so I guess I've been in eight years. Yeah, Carlo was shortly before Mark, and so this was just I think this is just before the Carlo and Mark era. Hashtag bald Rhythm. All right, so this will be interesting, Okay, so this is the first track ever recorded by Best not Broken. This is called look what you did? Check this out? Walk you wait that night under the traffic.

Nice sucking of you when you wanted to game, saying I'm going somewhere, maybe a hoe maybe in event, I guess where the lights will always shine, perhaps slowing me, perhaps swell Macon, perhaps swell Bacon, perhaps swell bake.

I thought you was gone, trying to help me away, welcome line, having can look what you did? Little mother be all in town. Eighties records have second round snow plays for a gypsy your wrong girl with me guess wats eighty nine standing on the traffic lights and all of the christs stems small row perhap swelled, make her half swelled mekeer have swelled. Make I thought you look gone? Try it got me al, build the whole, happy kid, Look what you did? Well, look now again, up and gone, go fall roun check by a mass satch hot at your l kid, steal chips, Look what you get.

But if we turn in and retarded, if we do it again, we bet those rolls and we can't bet if we change out of sets. I thought you were gone. Try to move on, fill me awife, built a whole ne ve had me a kid. Look what you did. But now I'm man up an go bar from check my passet, holl that you left dead, still left the chest. Look what you did going way back with that one. Look what you did twenty twelve from Best Not Broken Guys. This has been wonderful. Thank you so much. And Eric, you brought you brought me a shirt.

There, I brought you a shirt. Yes, so you were telling me this is a special shirt. So if you want to just repeat what you were telling shirt. Yeah, this is a this is kind of a collector's item T shirt. And I think last time, if I recalled, we forgot to bring you a shirt, right yeah, And I promise you would bring you one this time. And this is the first one that we're giving away of this patch. So I have a good friend whose daughter had been battling cancer for about a decade and sadly just passed away at the age of fifteen.

And he has an organization called for Kid's Sake. You can find it at for Kidssake dot com, which is it's an organization does a lot of great stuff, raising money to help crush kids cancer and hopefully minimize the you know, the parents and the kids that have to go through that kind of an experience. But she was an amazing girl. So this shirt has a Best Not Broken on our logo on the front and on the back it has Malia's Legacy logo. And you're the first one to have a Malia's Legacy shirt. And we're gonna be sharing these.

We're going to be trying to raise some money for be for Kid's Sake organization in the near future. And actually we're going to be writing a song. One of the next songs that we're going to be writing is Malia's song and wow, so it's close to the heart and we're working on that. Oh excellent, And thank you for the shirt. That's of course, that's amazing. Yeah, and I've I've seen online. I think that Organization for Kid's Sake. I think I've seen that so very good. Wow. I'm sorry sorry to hear fifteen that's that's awful, yes, but wow, but no, that's that's great that you're doing that though.

And I appreciate the shirt absolutely, and I appreciate you guys being here with us today. This has been amazing appreciate you having us hit twice and I went, we're here. I think we're here in August. That's right. Yeah, so that's you're very giving to let us come back within you know, one and twenty days. Most people say, yeah, we'll give you a break for about a year, give you a couple of yearators very kind, no, happy to do it. You guys are great. And and I I didn't know it was It wasn't August.

Wasn't that recent. Time might have been July. I don't know. It was mid late summer or something like that. Okay, all right, well no, it's it's great to see you guys. November third is coming out. Yeah, and uh, for people who want to keep up with what you guys are pretty easy to find online and and best not broken dot com, Ye dot com and Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff. Great website. Who does the website? Carlo was kind of in charge of the website. Yeah, yeah, we have to give him credit for something.

I'm a web designer, so I look at websites and I nitpicked things. But you guys have a great site. Okay. Good because a lot of artists who come on the show, I look at their websites and it's like, oh god, well we may need helped some day too. Yeah, you guys, you guys have a great site, carlo Is, Carlo is doing a great job. Absolutely, all right, guys, thank you so much. Best not Broken, thank you so much. Matters absolutely, And if you miss any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little bit at w m n H radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com.

And uh, that's it for us for now. We'll leave you with a little more of the first track that we played from these guys, Human Emotion, that we played at the top of the hour. We'll we'll finish out with that one too. This one's great too. This is really catchy. Although my vote for my vote for the single line away, what a catchy. I think I'm leaning that way too, yeah, currently, yeah, no, it's I really think that's the one. That's That's my advice, all right, But I'll leave you with this. This is Human Emotion from Best Not Broken.

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