Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-17-26 hour 2
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Speaker 1: That's how it's done. Sorry to celebration. The band is God's Go First. We've got Jason Pelletier and Tommy Jakes from God's Go First here with us in studio. And by the way, so we were talking off air and, and, uh, I was saying, you know, I'm sitting here thinking, oh, Tommy seems familiar. Uh, and then you've been on the show before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We realized, uh, did a segment with my buddy, Joey Painter.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We did that.
Speaker 3: We played some acoustic hip hop stuff live.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Really cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I was asking you too about, so what was the band you were in before God's Go First? Because I was trying to figure out where I knew you from.
Speaker 3: Before this, it was the Melodies from Ghost Road.
Speaker 1: But it turned out I knew you from being on my show. Yeah, that happens sometimes. Um, I've been doing this a long time, so I, you know, it's, it all gets to be a blur in my mind, but I'm glad you said something.
Speaker 7: It happens.
Speaker 3: It happens with us too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. They're like, uh, we, I've met you before.
Speaker 7: We played.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah. Totally.
Speaker 7: Totally.
Speaker 1: But, um, oh, so we should mention too, where people can get this, get the, the merch. Um, this gentleman over here was reminding us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Gods go first a.com. Uh, we have a store on there. Um, you know, we, we try to keep it up to date with whatever merch we have available and yeah, you can get it there or you know, you can just reach out to us via email too, if you're local and you know, want to meet up somewhere.
Speaker 7: I don't do our social media.
Speaker 8: We leave that to Scott, our drummer, but we, we try to make sure we you know, we're ahead of things as far as advertising shows and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's so much to, you know, with social media, there's so much to do so much to that. Are you, are you guys from here or where, where, where are you guys from?
Speaker 7: I'm out of Milton, New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: Milton.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: And then where are you from, Tommy?
Speaker 3: I live in Elliott, Maine.
Speaker 1: Elliott, Maine.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you, how far, what is, what is that an hour?
Speaker 3: Yeah, about an hour.
Speaker 1: About an hour, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, about an hour from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And then where are the other guys? Are they kind of.
Speaker 7: Scott's in Rochester, and so is Ben, actually.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, so you guys are spread out a little bit.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 7: A little bit, but.
Speaker 8: But, you know, we're close enough where it's not problematic to practice.
Speaker 1: That's good. I'm trying to picture exactly where Milton is.
Speaker 7: It's just north of Rochester.
Speaker 8: It's really 10 minutes away.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you guys actually aren't that spread out then. Because if Milton's close to Rochester, and that's close to.
Speaker 7: Tommy's probably the furthest.
Speaker 1: And that's not far from Elliot. No, 20 minutes. Oh, okay, yeah, so you guys aren't that spread out.
Speaker 7: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jump on 16.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, nice, nice. Now, is there a theme with these songs on Six Pack? Is there any particular overarching theme through these?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I mean, a bunch of them have different kinds of fun stories. I've always been someone who I'm a huge horror fanatic.
Speaker 7: Oh, really?
Speaker 3: So a lot of the stuff will be, you know, kind of cool. I mean, there's a song on there called Terror Card. And actually, that's a cool story all about, you know, meeting an old gypsy lady who reads fortunes at a carnival. And then at some point in the last years of her life, she starts seeing. her own horrible death in people's palms. So she's forced to do this thing that she does for money and read people's palms. But actually every time she does it, she sees a horrible way that she ends her, you know, her guys or whatever, you know?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was just a cool story. I'm a storyteller.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Some of the stuff has personal meanings. You throw some of that in, in there, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The, uh, sorrow to celebration.
Speaker 7: Funny.
Speaker 3: You guys were talking about the pandemic and everything. And the sorrow to celebration thing has a little bit of that in there because it was like, uh, You know, one of the words is the wisdom of the sane, but I think this time they're wrong, which was a point where everyone was telling you, do this, do that. And, you know, you're kind of like, again, it's like, all right, these people are supposed to know what they're talking about, but what's really happening? You know, what's going on, you know?
Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: Um, what about for the, uh, for the new, the new stuff? Cause you're working on, did you say two, two new songs?
Speaker 3: Those will probably be, I mean, one of them will probably be just an internet track.
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: We might just release one just as a non album track. Uh, you know, we'll just, um, For you streamers out there. Yeah, we'll just get it. We'll just push it out, you know. But we are, you know, actively working on another album, you know. Slow but sure.
Speaker 3: It's a pile of new ideas, a bunch of demos, a bunch of stuff. It's been good. Like I said, I've been with these guys for like a year or so. And right out the gate, it was, you know, we had no problem coming up with some cool stuff. Which, I mean, that's how it should be, you know.
Speaker 1: Does any of the old material survive from before you were in the band?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned the sound changed a lot.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, I mean.
Speaker 3: We'll play one or two of the old ones live.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now, some of them have had their lyrics completely redone.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: Because, you know, I didn't want Tommy to come in and have to sing karaoke.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: It doesn't make sense, and usually it's not authentic, right? You can hear it in somebody's voice when they're trying to do something else that they don't really believe in. So that's why I told Tommy, I'm like, you've got an empty canvas here.
Speaker 3: And for me, what's cool is that when I came in, these guys were really open to just do something completely different. Because again, the other guy, it was heavy, you know what I mean? There wasn't a lot of singing going on, you know?
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 3: So these guys, again, there was a couple of things where I stepped up and was doing some, some really like, uh, you know, harmony, vocal stuff and everything. And, you know, it's, it's been embraced. So it's been really cool for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's awesome. Are you guys playing a lot of shows? You've been playing a lot or not a lot.
Speaker 8: Uh, but you know, we, um, uh, you know, we kind of, uh, we just pick the ones that are going to make sense. Um, you know, where, where we fit in and things like that. I don't, I don't like to just go out there and just, you know, grab at anything just to play out. I want to play somewhere where there's going to be a crowd that our music can appeal to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm always curious about that because there's, there's different ways to look at it. Like some, like when I was, and we're talking, geez, when I was, I was in a band called my life crisis, like 20, geez, 20 years ago. Oh my God. And like, we would kind of just play any show we could get, you know what I mean? Like, and, And, you know, I remember it being a point of contention in the band, like, is this really smart?
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's a potential that somebody's going to enjoy what we do, we'll play. You know what I mean? But if they said, you know, hey, listen, I mean, I don't know. Again, there's a polka act playing next month. You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: You guys want to open up? Or do you guys want to open up for this country band?
Speaker 1: We might scare people.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: They're probably not going to like us that much. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Plus, too, it's more... expensive to travel now too with gas being so expensive. And so you really, yeah, you really do have to kind of, kind of pick your spots with that. Um, is there anybody in the scene that you guys play a lot of shows with, you know, sometimes that happens sort of organically where you sort of unofficially team up with.
Speaker 8: Uh, good buddies and lethal creed, um, uh, great band out, uh, uh, West Newfield, I guess I'd.
Speaker 1: Say they're out of, uh, I've heard the name.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. Lethal creed there.
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I would, they're going to hate me for, you know, pigeonholing them, but they're kind of a hardcore band to me. They got a lot of that kind of old school, hardcore edge, that New York hardcore kind of thing, and they're just incredible.
Speaker 7: They're a family band. Okay.
Speaker 8: It's, you know, the dad or grandpa on guitar, his son, the dad on drums, and he sings, and then his son is the bass player, and they're all extremely talented.
Speaker 1: I've heard of them because now i know why i recognize the name lethal creed because i've heard of of that what you just described yeah that's the family dynamic of that that's really cool.
Speaker 8: Yeah and they're great they've really embraced us and they're just really good people yeah all around so we just uh got along with them uh incredibly well right off the bat and uh yeah so we've been We've been doing some shows with them.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. If you're just joining us, we've got two of the guys from God's Go First here with us in studio. I think we should play that song. What do you guys think? Should we play Tarot Card? Because, Tommy, you were talking about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that sounds great.
Speaker 1: That's a good story. This is from Six Pack, the album, or the EP, I should say. I feel like Six Tracks is kind of like right in between album and EP.
Speaker 7: It's almost there.
Speaker 1: But this is another great song from God's Go First. Check this out. This is Tarot Card.
Speaker 2: Thank you for watching. Oh, will you wish you were so bad? You'll show me nothing but lies. Long as you say it, but it's written, it's understood. I'm lost and after forever, but somehow I still get by. Long as you say it, but it's written, it's understood.
Speaker 1: That is Tarot Card. The band is God's Go First. That is from the EP, Six Pack. And guys, this has been wonderful, of course. Jason Pelletier and Tommy Jakes with us here in studio. And where... Well, really two questions. One is, where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that God's Go First is doing? And do you have anything that you want to plug as far as, I don't know if you guys are planning anywhere this weekend? Oh, I'm sorry. There we go. Sorry about that.
Speaker 7: No, we are not.
Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, we're sort of getting ready for the cold weather to hit.
Speaker 7: We're going to try and.
Speaker 8: Shack up a bit and really push to get some more tracks done. Get a lot of progress made on our next album.
Speaker 7: But, yeah, you know, we're on all the socials.
Speaker 8: You know, you can go, you know, you can stream all our music, youtube.com slash at gods go first. But you can get our website kind of acts as a portal to all of our social there, gods go first.com. We have a store there and, you know, you can find everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. And any kind of an ETA on the new songs or.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: I wish I could give you more than that.
Speaker 1: Understood, yeah.
Speaker 8: But we're shooting for, you know, hoping to maybe next year have, you know, be close.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: Outstanding. Well, listen, Jason and Tommy, thank you guys both so much.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: This has been wonderful to have you here. If you are listening live on Saturday, stick around. Adam Jocelyn is going to be joining us next. But right now, we're going to close out this segment with this, another track from Six Pack, the band is Gods Go First, and this is called Ominous.
Speaker 10: I can't believe.
Speaker 6: It's tomorrow So So here we are, never ending, your willing breaks, still you're bending.
Speaker 5: You can't be here now It's just the end of days You're just the end Leap on the grave.
Speaker 2: You stay gone There will be a better way, you have to put a stand to stay, you never run, there is a sun, you lie. This is all you're looking for, you're lying when they say you're bleeding out, but you're still so under attack. Live by the grave.
Speaker 11: I can.
Speaker 2: Where it all went wrong See the ending now But now it seems The rope is free The rope is.
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Speaker 11: Thank you. piano plays softly.
Speaker 4: Forget the math.
Speaker 12: It's impossible now Two million flies In a jar full of sound No path to win It's a hard road to drive.
Speaker 13: Don't tempt me now. I've been dreaming.
Speaker 12: Many miles Too many times.
Speaker 13: I just can't make.
Speaker 4: Sands of time For you to remain No path to win It's a hard road to drive Don't tempt me now I've been too many miles.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 11: Oh, I love that. That is the song is called jars of water. It's from the album.
Speaker 1: Dust and Distance. And Adam Zane is here with us in studio. Hello, Adam. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Say that again.
Speaker 13: Oh, hi, Matt.
Speaker 9: How are you?
Speaker 13: I am here.
Speaker 1: Second time I've done that today. No, that is so good. A bit of a departure from AbleBlood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 9: it's still got that dark feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: No fuzz.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you describe that? Because it is, it's, um, you know, in the whole album, it's dark. It's sort of, um, haunting, uh, is a word that comes to mind.
Speaker 9: Um, kind of moody, moody.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you, how do you, but it's not, you know, it's not like singer songwriter stuff. It's not, I mean, how do you describe your sound with, with this?
Speaker 9: You know, I'm the last person you should be asking that question. And I'm, this is every musician says that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Um, Yeah, I don't know. I would just describe it as a dark, acoustic, I mean, borderline psychedelic, but it's acoustic, so it's kind of hard to get that psych, but it's kind of always what's going on in my brain, sound-wise. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And you had mentioned, too, kind of the origins of the album is the guitar that you bought, it sounds like?
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, yeah. I was up at the music mill down here, and yeah, my wife and I were admiring this, this Martin, I mean, not a Martin, a Taylor, a American dream that was hanging on the wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And, uh, so I was having a haunt about it. I, I, I went home and my wife was like, you need to go back to the music mill and get that guitar. And I did, I got it. And songs just seem to be pouring out of it lately.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 9: It's like, I was, I was supposed to own this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, cause I know today I was supposed to come and play a couple of songs, but it developed a crack in the back of it.
Speaker 1: Oh no.
Speaker 9: Yeah. So I've got it at the Luthier right now and, and he's tending to it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And, uh, yeah, hopefully I'll have it back in the next few days.
Speaker 13: Oh, good.
Speaker 10: Good.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 9: Um, Jake Falconer, he's a awesome Luthier down in, uh, he's down near Worcester. Oh, North Grafton.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So it's a little bit of a drive, but the guy knows what he's doing. He's got a really awesome band too called Swarm Catcher.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a cool name.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: It's a great name. He's the solo project that he does.
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: In, uh, Yeah, it's awesome. Really heavy stuff. And yeah, all around good guy. Knows his stuff.
Speaker 1: Now, did you intend to do this album before you bought that guitar? Or did you buy the guitar and that inspired you to do these songs?
Speaker 9: Some of these songs are really, really old.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: But most of these songs, yeah, I'd say eight of the 11 songs are written since I bought the guitar.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It really, it called to you.
Speaker 9: It really did.
Speaker 1: And quite a few, quite a few songs on the album too. This is definitely a full length, 11 tracks.
Speaker 1: What went into the decision to do a full album? Because, and I feel like we've probably talked about this before with you on the show, but you know, there's so many different ways to release music. Now you can do singles, you can do EPs, you can do albums, you know, a lot of artists now they'll kind of the inverse of how it used to be. They'll release a single, a series of singles that eventually coalesce into an EP or an album.
Speaker 9: Um, I, I tried to do that. I recorded this in April and so I started releasing singles and I was doing it every like six weeks or so. First three singles.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then I got impatient and I was just like, you know what? I can't keep doing that. I just, so I was just like, let's just put the whole thing out.
Speaker 7: No kidding.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I actually had, I had dropped the whole entire album on a band camp back in June.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: Probably like two or three days after I released the first single, but then I didn't release it on, all the whole album on all the streams.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: Um, until September 8th.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: So I did, I did a few singles. Excuse me. I did a few singles, uh, And then I just got... I was like, I can't keep doing this. I need it all out there. So now it's here.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. When you've got an album's worth of material recorded and you're really proud of it and you want to share it with the world and it's like... That's something that I'm always curious about is how do you maintain the discipline to not just put it all out when obviously you want people to hear it. How do you sit on it? It's funny. You hear these stories. The music industry is full of horror stories and something that. There's so many artists this has happened to, like they sign a record contract and they record an album and then for whatever reason the label decides it's not the right time or whatever their reasoning is and they shelve it.
Speaker 1: You know, not anything I've ever experienced, but I can only imagine what that's like. You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 9: You put all that time and effort and creativity into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then they just like, yeah, or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then you just, you don't know if it's ever going to come out and you don't, you don't own it. It's not like you can release it yourself.
Speaker 13: Right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: Well, that's the good thing about these days is like, do you really need a label unless you're like really starting to get big, big, big.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 9: Like just, You can put it out and it doesn't cost hardly anything to do it. You know, like you can record and, you know, you go to the right studios and stuff. It's going to cost a little bit of money, but they're going to do a really good job.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then you get the rest of it's up to you.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 9: And you got Instagram, you got Facebook and all this stuff that you can promote on. And there's millions of people on these on these social media things, you know. So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 9: Unless you're really starting to gain a lot of steam, I'm not sure a record label is super necessary these days.
Speaker 1: Some people end up regretting it. Yeah. Where did you record these?
Speaker 9: So that song we had just heard, I actually recorded in the back room of my house.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just got Reaper, and I was fooling around with it, and I thought it ended up sounding pretty good. The last 10 songs... on there. I recorded at loud sun over in Jaffrey.
Speaker 7: Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Ben Rogers. He's, uh, I, we worked, he's, he's recorded the first two able blood albums as well as, as this one. So I really like working with him. We have a good rapport when in the studio and yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's probably almost intuitive. I'd imagine it really is getting there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Like he, it's just such a comfortable, he's in the middle of nowhere in a horse barn that he remodeled into a, into a recording studio.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: And it's just like a, nice vibe in there. It's nice and quiet and, and all around good experience every time I go.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great. Um, we should, uh, we should play another one. Uh, what do you, I'll let you pick.
Speaker 9: All right, let's do Haunts Me Still.
Speaker 1: Haunts Me Still. Is there any kind of, uh, yeah, this one really kind of stood out to me too. Something about, something about the lyrics. Is there a story to this one or?
Speaker 9: Um, most of the songs are about, me kind of going through a transition, you know, like having a relationship for 20 years and leaving that relationship and then meeting the absolute love of my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And I think most of these songs are kind of that explaining that transition.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, cool.
Speaker 9: This is definitely part of that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: This is called Haunts Me Still. Again, this is from Dust and Distance by Adam Zane. Check it out.
Speaker 4: What I tried to put away.
Speaker 13: Haunts me still.
Speaker 4: We can drown another way and it haunts me still Push it back, it doesn't sway, lose my strength Know I'm one, break my teeth and it hurts me still Hurts me still What I tried to put away haunts me still. We can drown another way, but it haunts me still. Push it back, it doesn't sway, lose my strength. Know I'm one, I break my teeth, and it hurts me still.
Speaker 9: Hurts me still.
Speaker 1: That is so good. Haunts Me Still by Adam Zane from the album Dust and Distance. Yeah, I think that's probably my favorite. That is just so good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, every time I hear it still, I get a little bit of goosebumps.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 9: It's kind of weird saying that about my own music, but it's... Oh, I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great. That's great. And it's cool, too, that you release it on Bandcamp first. You know, I'm a big proponent of Bandcamp. You're very artist-friendly, where a lot of platforms are not. And also, too, something that a lot of people don't realize is if you get the music from Bandcamp, you get a higher quality file than if you just stream it on YouTube or something.
Speaker 9: Plus, you get to interact with the artists a lot more. Like, you can't do that on Spotify or Apple Music.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 9: They have their place. But in band camp, you can send me an email and be like, hey, I like your music. And I can respond to you and be like, thank you very much. Tell them how much I appreciate their comments. You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: It's more of a direct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: What comes first for you in writing these songs? I suspect, because you mentioned the guitar. really kind of opened things up for you, that guitar that you bought. I suspect it's the music, but maybe not.
Speaker 9: No, mostly, most of the time I'll come up with a rhythm.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then the lyrics, I don't really have a lot of trouble writing lyrics. It's more stream of consciousness for me. So yeah, the rhythm comes and I'm like, Oh, I can put words to this and then I'll just start writing as I'm, as I'm strumming the, strumming the chords.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Cause you write all the lyrics in Abel, right?
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Um, Uh, are there any of these that were, because the songs, you know, they feel deeply personal. I mean, were any of these difficult to write in terms of like, did you struggle with any of these as far as saying what you wanted to say or, um, second guessing yourself at all?
Speaker 9: Or yeah, there's always a second guess. It's always rewriting, you know, like I'll write the lyrics and I'll be like, well, this doesn't really, it's not, I'm trying to figure out the vibe as I'm writing the lyrics.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And, and so, yeah, I'll have to rewrite stuff. And, and some songs do, take a while. Like, I'm working on a song now that I've gotten one rhythm to, and I've gotten the words, and I like the words, but I can't figure out where to go.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean? And that happens a lot. And a lot of these songs, like Undecided, the lyrics were a struggle.
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 9: I'd have to change the order of the verses.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: And then change the words. And you're never always satisfied on every single song.
Speaker 7: Sure, sure.
Speaker 9: With the final product.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: You know, and so sometimes the songs even change after the recordings and that one might be.
Speaker 1: One of those songs. Right. Right.
Speaker 9: That it happens. I mean, I like the rhythm. I like the I like the way the verses go, but I don't always like the. The story that's. happening right then and there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: You know? Okay.
Speaker 1: So are you playing these live? Have you been playing?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We're going to be playing, I'm going to be playing a November 6th in Nashville over at the spot.
Speaker 7: Oh, outstanding. Love the spot.
Speaker 9: That place is great. Mike, the owner, he gets it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's been on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, good.
Speaker 1: The healer. They call him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Oh, he's super nice. Like I've gone into and, and introduced myself to him and man, we just sat there and had a nice conversation and, and he's just, he loves, He's so helpful to musicians when they're there. Yeah, I can't say enough nice things about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Prior to doing this project and releasing this album, had you already been doing solo shows? Just you and a guitar?
Speaker 9: Open mics.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just kind of testing the songs out.
Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but never anything really formal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Um, I've learned a lot in able blood on how to put shows together. So I've been kind of using that experience to start doing this. You know, like I've got auto from dust profit. I've convinced him to do some acoustic songs. So he's going to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: He's coming to play on November 6th with me.
Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
Speaker 9: Um, Adam Grant from the band Mercury burns first.
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 9: He's got a solo album out. That's all instrumental.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 7: Fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
Speaker 9: So he's going to come and do some songs with his daughter.
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 7: OK.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Brian Hinckley, who used to be in the band Tree. He's the original guitar player. And he's in a band now called 99 Shots. He's coming up from Boston.
Speaker 7: To do a. A set.
Speaker 1: No kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 9: It's going to be a really fun night.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sounds it. So that's November 6th at the spot.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Very cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to be in a band with Otto a long time ago, Chemical Distance.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 7: I remember.
Speaker 1: Otto's amazing. I love seeing him in Dust Prophet too, because, you know, he's been in a lot of bands and, but Dust Prophet, I feel like. With Dust Profit, he kind of found his home. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 1: Because he's been in that band for a while now.
Speaker 6: He has.
Speaker 1: They've done a lot.
Speaker 9: He has a lot of side things that he does, too.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of creativity flowing out of him.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: And he's really good at capturing it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
Speaker 9: That's a hard thing for artists to do.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 9: Myself included. It's hard to actually get it, catch it.
Speaker 9: And be able to keep it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
Speaker 9: And he's good at that.
Speaker 1: He is, he is. Now, what about Ableblood? Is Ableblood still staying busy as well?
Speaker 9: He played last night up at the Shaski.
Speaker 1: Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we opened up for Tree.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll be damned.
Speaker 9: Inverter was there.
Speaker 7: Oh, wow. TFR.
Speaker 9: What a night.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I'm still recovering.
Speaker 1: Inverter's been on the show. They're amazing.
Speaker 9: They're really, really good. Live, locally, they're one of the better live acts right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Really good. So Ableblood is still staying.
Speaker 9: Active while you're doing this.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Excellent. Was it, like, when you first started playing these live, was that... Because I've never had that experience. Like, I'm a bass player. I've only played in bands. And, you know, obviously when you're in a band, there's a certain safety to that. You're all on stage together. It's like a brotherhood, you know. So I can only imagine... the vulnerability that comes with just you and a guitar.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: But I've never experienced it, and obviously it's different for everybody anyway.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: Was it scary at all at first?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's scary every time.
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. There's no question. You're like, oh, have I practiced these songs enough? Is it going to come off smoothly? Because if I screw up a riff in Able Blood, no one notices.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: I don't even notice, really.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 9: You screw up an acoustic... well yeah you're gonna notice it yeah yeah you know yeah and and it's okay it's okay to screw up live that's live music you know and there's something actually really good about it when you recover you know and and but oh yeah the getting up there by yourself you're like this is my gig right now by myself it's yeah it can be a little nerve-wracking.
Speaker 7: Yeah pretty much every.
Speaker 1: Time yeah no doubt no doubt We should play another track from, of course, the album is called... Oh, by the way, any significance to the title? It's a great title, Dust and Distance, but.
Speaker 9: So I had Jason Hartley down in Boston do the artwork.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I should mention that, too. I love the cover.
Speaker 9: He always names his pieces when he sends them back to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So he named that Dust and Distance, and I was like, You just named my album.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's great. I love it. I love the cover. What should we play next?
Speaker 9: Let's do Greenlight Passing By.
Speaker 1: Greenlight Passing By.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 1: Any story to this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I had a buddy of mine down in North Carolina. We were chit-chatting online, and he was trying to make an animation for an Able Blood song. And I don't even remember what the song was now.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: This was like a year or so ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And the animation wasn't coming out correctly. like the hair color kept changing from scene to scene and like this things weren't working out right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And as we were chit-chatting, I was strumming my guitar and the song, I wrote the song while we were talking.
Speaker 1: Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So it's about the animation that we couldn't really get correct.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's wild.
Speaker 13: All right.
Speaker 7: Well, very good.
Speaker 1: Well, let's give this a spin. This is a green light passing by, uh, Adam Zane from the album, uh, dust and distance.
Speaker 13: She turned around.
Speaker 4: With a green light passing by Didn't make a sound Couldn't see the blue inside her Closed my eyes.
Speaker 13: Opened up to a different shade Refused by all around.
Speaker 4: And she captured all the fires.
Speaker 13: Listen what they say. If you move, then you can't deny her.
Speaker 4: Try to make her stay. Water moves to destroy the liars.
Speaker 1: That is Greenlight passing by from the album Dust in Distance. Adam Zane is here with us in studio and another great song. We were talking off air and, you know, of course, we've talked about Able Blood a bit on the show, too. The band, well, I wish I was at that show last night. That sounds like a killer show.
Speaker 9: It was fun.
Speaker 1: But, you know, I'm a big Able Blood fan, as you know. But we were talking about, so you actually recorded for this album an Able Blood song.
Speaker 7: I did.
Speaker 9: I did a cover of Kept Them Past.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the first song on the last Able Blood song called Arrival of the Waves.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: So originally the song was meant to be a segue in between two Able Blood songs, and it turned out to be the opening track. My drummer likes to add fuzz. Jimmy likes to add fuzz to everything. Yeah. And he was like, oh, I'd love to hear this with the fuzz on. And I put the fuzz on, and I was like, oh, my God, this is it. incredible yeah but so i want i brought it back i wanted to bring the song back to what i had originally intended it to be okay um and it i like it that way as well i like it both ways yeah yeah but yeah so it's the raw version oh.
Speaker 1: No kidding all right well let's give this a spin okay i'm curious to hear this now uh kept them past and this is yeah because i remember when you guys came on and we played a You said this is the opening track?
Speaker 9: It is the opening track.
Speaker 1: And then it's the closing track on this album. Okay. By the way, have the guys given you feedback? I'm sure they've listened to the album.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 9: They like it.
Speaker 1: Have they given you feedback on this song specifically?
Speaker 9: I don't remember a specific conversation on that one. I was curious.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 1: All right. Let's give this a listen. This is Kept Them Past. The album is Dust and Distance, and this is Adam Zane.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen them for a while. It's like a night that never ends. Appreciate the finer things.
Speaker 13: But they all disappear. Found a clue once in a.
Speaker 4: Room Couldn't leave the empty space Made a meal fit for a king Little water, little wine.
Speaker 13: Put your foot down on the gas. Tiny misstep on your toe. By the water for the king.
Speaker 4: People now forever past.
Speaker 1: Kept them past from the album dust and distance by Adam Zane.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'll have to go back and listen to the able blood version later too.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You, you were saying off air about how it's supposed to be sort of meditative.
Speaker 9: It was intentionally supposed to be just the one riff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Over and over and over again. Just very meditative.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We added a little bit of parts, you know, when you jam the songs out, they kind of, they'll take on another life.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: And it did.
Speaker 9: On the able blood version for sure and i really like that version a lot but this one i wanted to just bring it back to what it was yeah originally and it like i said it was supposed to be a connecting song between two able blood songs right or the intention was that originally right but.
Speaker 1: Hey Did any of these songs surprise you when you recorded them? Did any of these come out differently than what you had originally envisioned?
Speaker 9: Honestly, still did.
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. I didn't realize it was going to... It's got a powerful feel to it. Part of it's the way it was mixed and mastered, too. I think Ben is really good at bringing out the... It's like a droney sound on the lower strings on there. He's able to pull that in so you can hear that really well. It gives it a really good um, feeling.
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
Speaker 7: Definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite of these to play live? Is there one that you particularly enjoy?
Speaker 9: I couldn't ask. I really like playing live. It's just a simple blues song.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Um, but I can really get into it while I'm playing.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So it's, it's kind of like that 80 or that was a play 20% of your ability. live right definitely in that 20 percent of my ability right right because when it gets over that you can't put as much into the performance yeah um kind of rule um so that one i can really have fun i can really just kind of get right into it yeah the other stuff i have to concentrate a little more.
Speaker 1: Right you know right now that makes sense are any of these particularly uh challenging to.
Speaker 9: Play live for um blue sky can be pretty challenging yeah um.
Speaker 1: Cause I'm listening to what you're doing on the guitar. It's pretty sophisticated on some of these.
Speaker 9: It's really, some of it's, it is, I think it's more right hand stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: The chords are, are, are pretty easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, it, it, it, it's not as sophisticated as I might make it sound to be, but I think it's more for me, the difficulties aren't always what I'm playing is trying to remember the words.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: For the songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: Because I write them so fast.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And I want to play them out right away, but I don't always have the lyrics memorized.
Speaker 1: Right, right. And I'm curious, too, about your vocals. Like, do you, like, who influences you vocally? Because as I'm listening to these, when I listen to these the first time, and as I'm hearing them again today, I'm trying to, like, your vocal delivery, you remind me of somebody, but I can't place who it is.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering.
Speaker 9: I don't have, you know, I've been compared to, like, bow house and those and like joy division and stuff like that yeah but i don't i like those bands but i don't they're not in my catalog of stuff that i listen to right right frequently yeah um so i don't know if i would call them influences yeah i have like a deeper voice yeah it's maybe it comes out as you know but i really like like new wave music from the 80s and stuff like that so i guess maybe those vocalists from back.
Speaker 1: Then That makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Gary Newman and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: So who, the, uh, description, you know what we were talking earlier about how, how do you describe your music? And I was looking at the, um, the description on band camp, um, And I don't know if you wrote this or if someone helped you, but it says here, I really like this. This is why I wanted to read it. From the Backroads of New Hampshire is rooted in dark Americana, psych folk, and the slow intensity of doom blues.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really like that. Doom blues is not a term I had heard before, but it fits.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I made it up. I'm sure somebody else has used it. I didn't really hear anybody else use it. I come from a doom metal background.
Speaker 9: I feel like I influence both sounds coming from either direction. I feel like I can pull that doominess out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Dark Americana, I think, really fits, too.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Definitely. Yeah, no, I like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have a hard time actually labeling it, so I felt like trying to throw all that out there at the same time.
Speaker 1: Which I think is a good thing. I think it's good when you can't necessarily easily label something. You know, I think that's really good. Now, do you have future plans to do more of this?
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: I've got another whole album coming. written i just gotta get it recorded oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah no kidding yeah um same kind of themes or same approach yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah same approach um these songs are probably a little more influenced by like um by bands like 16 horsepower pine hill haynes and stuff like that um so the sound's a little bit different than this album yeah but that should be happening anyway you're always supposed to be or you should be evolving.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 9: And I feel like I am.
Speaker 1: Definitely. And will it just be strictly you again on the new album?
Speaker 9: I'm not sure yet.
Speaker 1: Ah, interesting.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure yet, yeah. I've been talking to people about doing collaborations, so maybe some of these will end up on the next album.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 9: Maybe some collaborations.
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool.
Speaker 7: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Intriguing, yeah. Any kind of an ETA? Probably not.
Speaker 9: No, it's just getting... my button gear and sitting down and actually starting to record these. I'm going to try recording the whole album at home. Cause I feel like jars of water came out pretty good.
Speaker 7: It did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Um, so I think I'm going to try these at home and, and see how they come out. If I'm not satisfied with them, I'm back over to loud sun studios and we're going to record that that way.
Speaker 7: So, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Excellent. Excellent. Um, before we start to wrap up, so where's, where's the best place to go to, keep up with everything that you're doing about both as Adam Zane and, you know, as able blood as well.
Speaker 9: Able blood. We've got an Instagram, Facebook, and we pretty good about keeping up pretty good. Um, Adam Zane, I, I do on, uh, Instagram mostly.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: It shows up on my personal, um, Facebook page. I do have an Adam Zane Facebook page, but I, there's so many pages to try to keep up with. I know I got to focus on one. So I've been focused on, on the Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So if you find Adam saying music on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. Fantastic. And what about upcoming... Are you playing anywhere this weekend? I mean, I know you just played last night with Ableblood at Shaskane.
Speaker 9: No, no, we don't have anything. I don't have anything coming up until November 6th. Oh, right.
Speaker 1: You should remind everybody about that show, though.
Speaker 7: That's a big show.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that'll be at the spot November 6th. The show starts at 8 o'clock. I'm going on first.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: So if you want to see... Adam Zane play, be there at 8.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: But then Otto will be playing after me, and then Adam Grant, and then Brian Hinckley will be closing out the night.
Speaker 1: Wonderful.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's going to be great. Everybody, every person on this bill I am a fan of. So it's going to be get my set out of the way so I can sit down and relax and watch these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. No, that sounds like a great night. The spot, you know, as we talked about earlier, that's a great venue.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Adam, this has been wonderful. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely do it again. And what did you want to play? You told me, and I can't remember.
Speaker 9: Let's do Blue Sky.
Speaker 1: Blue Sky.
Speaker 7: There it is.
Speaker 1: And what was the... Was there a story behind this one?
Speaker 9: This was kind of another story of transitioning from the relationship I had been in to this relationship. And it's kind of promising. my wife now that I'm here for, I'm here for good.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 1: Very cool. All right. So we'll close out the segment with this. This is blue sky. The album is dust and distance. And the artist of course is Adam Zane and Adam again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Think I lost my hands Wonder where I've been In a mode of colorful places You became my friend.
Speaker 13: Hiding in the end.
Speaker 4: Shovel in the shed Pushing past future paces Waiting for the tins.
Speaker 11: Guitar solo Fitting with.
Speaker 13: These pins.
Speaker 4: Can't get back my sins It's too late Can't go back Live these lives again.
Speaker 13: Hold you now my dear.
Speaker 4: Leave you without fear Of a day without me with you Never to appear.
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