Matt Connarton Unleashed 10-26-24 hour 3

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1:21 Speaker 6: give them all my half food?

1:23 Speaker 3: It's never enough?

1:24 Speaker 7: Did she harmony give them a missing something?

1:35 Speaker 1: Why?

1:39 Speaker 2: Why would you tell me I'm the one.

1:49 Speaker 3: Just for you.

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2:02 Speaker 8: I know I wasn't perfect, but I loved you with

2:07 Speaker 8: my best Oh yes side.

2:15 Speaker 5: And I'll say I'm okay, but I'll always feel this way,

2:22 Speaker 5: and I'll say.

2:24 Speaker 1: I'm all right, but I'll always.

2:27 Speaker 7: Wonder why I can give them a half boo. It's

2:32 Speaker 7: never enough to treat her morning? Give them a missing

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2:43 Speaker 3: Sudden a thing. God'll never be good enough? The same

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3:00 Speaker 5: And I'll say I'm okay, but I'll always feel this way,

3:07 Speaker 5: and I'll.

3:07 Speaker 7: Say I'm all right, but I'll always wonder I can

3:14 Speaker 7: eat them on half food. It's never enough? Did she

3:18 Speaker 7: her morning give him a missing something?

3:27 Speaker 1: What's wrong?

3:27 Speaker 3: With my love?

3:34 Speaker 9: What's wrong with my love?

3:40 Speaker 3: Will I ever be?

3:43 Speaker 10: No?

3:46 Speaker 11: Oh? That is beautiful?

3:47 Speaker 12: Am I missing something? That is Rebecca Turmel and this

3:50 Speaker 12: is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are well into our third

3:53 Speaker 12: hour New Marrow Trace here on this Saturday, October twenty six,

3:58 Speaker 12: twenty twenty four. Almost forgot what yeah of the month

4:01 Speaker 12: it was, Jenny. That's weird of.

4:03 Speaker 11: Me considering it's your part.

4:07 Speaker 12: I know, I know, but we we are live, We

4:11 Speaker 12: are live here and thank you again, of course you

4:13 Speaker 12: are October sun.

4:14 Speaker 11: Is great to see those guys in the second hour.

4:17 Speaker 12: In the first hour we had Plague Dad and now

4:20 Speaker 12: joining us alive in studio here for the third hour

4:23 Speaker 12: we have Rebecca Turmel.

4:24 Speaker 11: Hello, welcome, Well, I can't hear you. Why can't I

4:28 Speaker 11: hear you? Let's try that. Oh gorgeous there there she is. Okay,

4:31 Speaker 11: I can hear you now. Hi, Welcome to the show, Rebecca.

4:33 Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you for having me. It's it's awesome

4:36 Speaker 9: to be here. Yes, talk music.

4:38 Speaker 11: And no, wonderful, wonderful to have you.

4:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's a beautiful song you had mentioned, uh

4:45 Speaker 12: off air, I think something about is that the first

4:47 Speaker 12: song you recorded.

4:48 Speaker 9: Yes, So that's the first song that I went into

4:50 Speaker 9: the studio with. I was terrified. My guitar had never

4:54 Speaker 9: been in a recording studio. Yeah, that was a little

4:57 Speaker 9: over two years ago. Now I released that and Jil

5:00 Speaker 9: of twenty twenty two, so it's it's been a bit

5:05 Speaker 9: and it's been a journey so far.

5:06 Speaker 11: Where did you record that?

5:08 Speaker 9: I record that at the Underground in Randolph, Vermont with Vincent.

5:13 Speaker 9: He's incredible and such a great space over there.

5:16 Speaker 12: Now, how did you How did you come to record there?

5:19 Speaker 12: Because you know, you've got so many options as far

5:21 Speaker 12: as studios or or even home recording or there's so

5:24 Speaker 12: many different ways now to record.

5:26 Speaker 11: What led you to record there?

5:28 Speaker 9: I well, first of all, I know absolutely nothing about

5:31 Speaker 9: recording any of that fun stuff. So a good friend

5:34 Speaker 9: of mine who I brought the song to, Jim Yeager.

5:39 Speaker 9: He's been in the music industry for well over forty

5:42 Speaker 9: years now. He recommended Vinnie because I just needed a

5:46 Speaker 9: place where I could feel comfortable because I was so

5:49 Speaker 9: frightened to get into the studio for the first time. Yeah,

5:52 Speaker 9: so he's like, get us to the other ground. It's

5:54 Speaker 9: a great spot and they have a great acoustic sound.

5:57 Speaker 9: So I'm like, all right, let's do it. And I

6:00 Speaker 9: ended up falling in love with the space and I'm

6:02 Speaker 9: really glad with that choice that I made to go

6:04 Speaker 9: to the Underground.

6:05 Speaker 12: Yeah, now, did you because you sent us a couple

6:08 Speaker 12: other songs? Who were these all recorded there?

6:10 Speaker 4: No?

6:10 Speaker 9: Actually, I actually I've had the privilege of getting I

6:13 Speaker 9: got to record at Blackbird's studio in Nashville. But I

6:17 Speaker 9: also have recorded up Squam Sound with Randy Ruse. I've

6:22 Speaker 9: kind of tried a few different spaces and actually just

6:25 Speaker 9: this week I was at the Studio Portland in Portland,

6:27 Speaker 9: Main Oh, no kidding, So I just I like to

6:29 Speaker 9: try a new space with mostly each song, but wish

6:32 Speaker 9: you well. I also recorded at the Underground as well.

6:36 Speaker 12: The studio in Portland was that because John MacArthur. I

6:41 Speaker 12: think that's how we met. We met you through John, Yes, yes?

6:44 Speaker 12: Is that the studio where it's him and his son?

6:47 Speaker 9: I think yes, yes. Oh, the Sam MacArthur and John

6:51 Speaker 9: and his wife Weaver are also the co owners of

6:53 Speaker 9: that studio. Okay, but they do a great monthly event

6:57 Speaker 9: for singer songwriters in duo acts. You can go in

7:01 Speaker 9: and get a video live video and a live recording

7:05 Speaker 9: on one take in one night. But it's also an

7:07 Speaker 9: in studio audience in there too, so you get like this,

7:12 Speaker 9: it's awesome.

7:13 Speaker 11: Is it intimidating to do that?

7:14 Speaker 4: Oh?

7:14 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's a very small space.

7:17 Speaker 11: Right right, Yeah, but it.

7:19 Speaker 9: Was really cool because you got to just live in

7:22 Speaker 9: the moment with the music, but capture it as well

7:24 Speaker 9: and like with that professional sound in that professional video.

7:28 Speaker 11: Yeah.

7:28 Speaker 9: So you get a little bit of everything, which is nice,

7:30 Speaker 9: and especially when I'm a working a full time working

7:33 Speaker 9: musician need a lot of content, video content and stuff

7:36 Speaker 9: for my ePK. It was great to do.

7:38 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no doubt now you So I read your bio.

7:43 Speaker 12: Did you start out doing covers and then started doing originals?

7:46 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I've been. Actually I just hit my seven

7:49 Speaker 9: year anniversary of playing out.

7:51 Speaker 11: Oh congratulations.

7:52 Speaker 9: I started off as a cover artist, a giga musician.

7:55 Speaker 9: My first gig was in my hometown at this Irish

7:58 Speaker 9: plub I worked at. It was Kathleen's now it's Kathleen's

8:00 Speaker 9: Irish Pub and I just I did that for a while.

8:05 Speaker 9: I would take songs that I loved, songs that were

8:08 Speaker 9: meaningful to me, and tried to make them my own, yeah,

8:10 Speaker 9: make performance with it. And I finally decided, Okay, I

8:14 Speaker 9: need to try writing my own stuff and seeing how

8:17 Speaker 9: that feels like. And it's definitely an entirely different experience.

8:22 Speaker 11: Yeah.

8:22 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's interesting because for a lot of singer songwriters,

8:25 Speaker 12: you know, a lot of people we talked to on

8:27 Speaker 12: the show, they start out with original music and then

8:31 Speaker 12: they wind up doing covers live because they kind of

8:33 Speaker 12: have to because it helps, you know, as far as

8:36 Speaker 12: getting gigs, and that's what a lot of venues want.

8:38 Speaker 12: So it's interesting for you it kind of went the

8:40 Speaker 12: other way. I mean, was it always your plan to

8:42 Speaker 12: ultimately do your own material or not?

8:44 Speaker 9: Really? It honestly wasn't even my plan to do music

8:48 Speaker 9: to begin with. I usually started off in the theater. Okay,

8:51 Speaker 9: so when I was a little girl at my first show,

8:54 Speaker 9: I think I was like nine years old, but I

8:56 Speaker 9: fell in love with performing, being on stage and in call.

9:00 Speaker 9: I dabbled with my guitar in high school, but I

9:03 Speaker 9: didn't really do much with it. I picked it back

9:05 Speaker 9: up and started playing songs and went to some open

9:07 Speaker 9: mics with some friends, some other theater kids, and because

9:11 Speaker 9: it's just fun, to do that stuff. Yeah, then I

9:13 Speaker 9: was getting gig opportunities. People asked me to play at

9:16 Speaker 9: their bars and restaurants, and it's just flourished into this

9:20 Speaker 9: whole journey, not only musical discovery but self discovery as well.

9:25 Speaker 12: And to be able to do that full time. It

9:29 Speaker 12: seems like this is because the other thing I was

9:31 Speaker 12: surprised reading your bio, it seems like, in the grand

9:34 Speaker 12: scheme of things, you haven't been at this that long,

9:37 Speaker 12: but it seems like you've been able to really, you know,

9:41 Speaker 12: have a lot of success very quickly with it, which

9:43 Speaker 12: is great.

9:43 Speaker 9: Yeah. I feel extremely fortunate that the opportunities that have

9:47 Speaker 9: come my way. It's it's just astounding to think of

9:52 Speaker 9: how far I have come because I've only been doing

9:54 Speaker 9: it full time for about two years now. Yeah, but

9:57 Speaker 9: I have a really great support system. I've had some

10:00 Speaker 9: wonderful mentors in my life that have really guided me

10:04 Speaker 9: and helped me so far, and I think helps with

10:06 Speaker 9: that trajectory to get yeah further along a little bit faster. Yeah,

10:10 Speaker 9: of course, I'm always nos on the grindstone, just yeah.

10:13 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.

10:13 Speaker 12: Yeah, Like like in terms of mentors, like like I

10:17 Speaker 12: assume John MacArthur is one.

10:18 Speaker 9: Right, Oh yeah, and brad Myrick as well. I actually

10:22 Speaker 9: am a self taught guitarist and I just recently decided, okay,

10:26 Speaker 9: it's time I really understand what I'm doing, and I've

10:28 Speaker 9: been diving into some guitar lessons as well.

10:30 Speaker 11: Yeah.

10:31 Speaker 9: But my my first mentor was also previously my manager,

10:34 Speaker 9: was Jimmy Aeger, and he was a blessing to have

10:37 Speaker 9: at the beginning because I've always like been so I'm

10:41 Speaker 9: so nervous about everything all the time. I don't need

10:43 Speaker 9: to be, but I am. It's just a trade of

10:45 Speaker 9: mind I can't seem to get rid of. But he

10:47 Speaker 9: did a really good job keeping me level headed and

10:49 Speaker 9: just and being honest with me. So it's been nice

10:52 Speaker 9: to have just people who are genuinely there and who care,

10:56 Speaker 9: and it's just it's I'm so grateful for everyone I've had.

11:00 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, how do you find how do you

11:02 Speaker 12: find those people? Because I hear a lot of especially

11:05 Speaker 12: young musicians, say it's hard to find mentors or people

11:09 Speaker 12: they can really trust, Like have you just been fortunate

11:12 Speaker 12: or do you have some kind of you know, are

11:15 Speaker 12: you intuitive in a way where you know, Okay, this

11:18 Speaker 12: person I think is going to help me in their

11:20 Speaker 12: genuine and they, you know.

11:21 Speaker 11: Because there's a lot of I don't know sharks. I

11:23 Speaker 11: don't know how else to put it.

11:24 Speaker 9: You know what I mean, I know exactly what you mean.

11:26 Speaker 9: I think it's just been a mix of both just

11:29 Speaker 9: being fortunate and also I just I really love being

11:32 Speaker 9: a part of our music community, and I play a lot,

11:35 Speaker 9: but when I'm not playing, I really try to get

11:37 Speaker 9: out and see what else everyone else is doing, especially

11:41 Speaker 9: the full timers, because it's hard. So I love to

11:44 Speaker 9: show support. And with that, that's everyone that I've met

11:48 Speaker 9: who's going to my life that has really been through,

11:50 Speaker 9: like mutual music friends who have known them previously. So

11:54 Speaker 9: that's how I ran into Jim. And I was performing

11:58 Speaker 9: with a friend of mine. Uh, and he's just the

12:01 Speaker 9: friendliest person there is. So he goes around and talks

12:04 Speaker 9: to everybody, and yeah, I'm so glad that he introduced

12:06 Speaker 9: himself to me, and I wanted to with him. I'm

12:09 Speaker 9: missing something. I wanted an unbiased opinion, and I didn't

12:12 Speaker 9: really know Jim that well at that point. Yeah, so

12:16 Speaker 9: I sent him that song and he's like, don't release this.

12:18 Speaker 9: Can I meet with you and I'm like, what do

12:20 Speaker 9: you mean? And and he was just telling me how

12:23 Speaker 9: he wanted to help and he didn't want like he

12:26 Speaker 9: wished he had someone when he started out to not

12:29 Speaker 9: make the same mistakes that he did, and having the

12:31 Speaker 9: understanding of the industry, which is has changed so much,

12:34 Speaker 9: it's constantly changing. Yeah, but someone just has the understanding.

12:37 Speaker 9: So I've gotten lucky with meeting those people. It's just

12:40 Speaker 9: so funny you meet one person and then someone else

12:42 Speaker 9: comes into the picture. You can learn something from everyone,

12:45 Speaker 9: Oh really can?

12:46 Speaker 11: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah.

12:48 Speaker 12: I think I think so much of being successful is

12:53 Speaker 12: is you know, putting out the right energy and attracting

12:56 Speaker 12: people into your you know, into your career and into

12:59 Speaker 12: your life, just generally who are also positive and uh

13:02 Speaker 12: you know, and and you know, like you said, you know,

13:04 Speaker 12: you meet one person and that leads to meeting another

13:07 Speaker 12: person and another person and it sounds like you've you've

13:09 Speaker 12: been able to meet uh people who are you know,

13:13 Speaker 12: like I said, genuine and and kind of build that

13:15 Speaker 12: support system. And like John MacArthur, we had him on

13:19 Speaker 12: the show. It was a few months ago now, and

13:22 Speaker 12: uh yeah he was great and just you know, just

13:24 Speaker 12: so positive and you know, because there is a lot

13:27 Speaker 12: of negativity too, in the sense that especially for for

13:30 Speaker 12: people who've been around a while, like like I have,

13:34 Speaker 12: the industry has changed a lot, you know, as technology

13:36 Speaker 12: has changed, the industry has changed, and you know, and

13:39 Speaker 12: there there is a lot of there's a lot of negativity.

13:41 Speaker 12: There's a lot of frustration, and and I think it's

13:45 Speaker 12: easy to get jaded, which a lot of people, you know,

13:48 Speaker 12: a lot of people do. Meanwhile, they're not sharks, they're

13:50 Speaker 12: just jaded, you know what I mean. So, so to

13:53 Speaker 12: be able to surround yourself with with positive people who

13:56 Speaker 12: want what's best for you and who want want what's

13:59 Speaker 12: best for the sea and really kind of see it

14:00 Speaker 12: as a community, I think is really important.

14:02 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you. There there's if we're not

14:06 Speaker 9: connected with each other. To me, it's nothing is ever

14:09 Speaker 9: a competition either, and everyone has something to offer as

14:14 Speaker 9: a musician, and I really respect and admire anybody who

14:17 Speaker 9: just does this in any way, shape or form. Yeah,

14:21 Speaker 9: so I always I have I feel like I do

14:23 Speaker 9: have a good sense of just like understanding people and

14:28 Speaker 9: where they're coming from. Like you were saying, it is

14:31 Speaker 9: really hard to to not get take things personally, especially

14:35 Speaker 9: if someone doesn't like your music or your sound. Sure sure, so,

14:38 Speaker 9: Like you said, surrounding yourself with like a positive group

14:41 Speaker 9: of people who are going after the same thing, or

14:44 Speaker 9: I try to surround myself with people who are in

14:46 Speaker 9: a place that I want to be or a level

14:48 Speaker 9: that I'm not at yet. I just love I love

14:52 Speaker 9: I love learning. I just want to learn from everyone.

14:55 Speaker 12: You just said something very important because what a lot

14:57 Speaker 12: of people don't understand, and this this supplies not just

15:01 Speaker 12: in music, but in so many things. People get frustrated,

15:06 Speaker 12: People get envious of people who are doing better than

15:08 Speaker 12: they are, and so I think people will often miss

15:13 Speaker 12: an opportunity to learn from someone because they're frustrated that

15:16 Speaker 12: they're not where that person is, where they think they

15:19 Speaker 12: should be. And it's important to you know, the way

15:23 Speaker 12: I tend to think of it, as you know, I mean,

15:25 Speaker 12: there are people who are you know, I do a

15:28 Speaker 12: few different things, and there are people who are far

15:30 Speaker 12: more successful at these things than I am. But I

15:33 Speaker 12: look at those people and I try to take inspiration,

15:36 Speaker 12: try to learn from them. But also if they can

15:38 Speaker 12: do it, then that's proof of concept, you know, because

15:41 Speaker 12: none of it it's nothing is a zero sum game.

15:44 Speaker 12: Life is not a zero sum game. The music industry

15:46 Speaker 12: is not a zero some game. Just because somebody is

15:47 Speaker 12: doing better doesn't mean you're automatically doing worse. Really, it's

15:52 Speaker 12: an opportunity for you to learn from them and to

15:54 Speaker 12: kind of maybe try to model what they do or

15:57 Speaker 12: follow their example whatever it is, you know, or just

16:00 Speaker 12: you see them succeed and it's like, Okay, well if

16:02 Speaker 12: they can do it, I can do it, you know,

16:04 Speaker 12: And to really and to really kind of remember that

16:06 Speaker 12: and keep that in mind.

16:07 Speaker 9: Oh definitely.

16:08 Speaker 11: Yeah.

16:08 Speaker 9: And everyone has their own path in this industry in particular,

16:13 Speaker 9: it's different for everyone. And what I'm learning too is

16:18 Speaker 9: success for everyone is different. We define success differently, So

16:22 Speaker 9: I'm really trying to figure figure it right now what

16:26 Speaker 9: what successful means to me and and kind of let

16:30 Speaker 9: that guide me as well, because what's working for someone

16:33 Speaker 9: else may actually may not work for me. So I

16:36 Speaker 9: think it's just in terms two of thinking what a

16:38 Speaker 9: success to you? And right now, if I could pay

16:41 Speaker 9: my bills with my music, that is success. I'm so

16:44 Speaker 9: fortunate for that. I count my blessings because you also

16:47 Speaker 9: don't know how.

16:47 Speaker 11: Long it's gonna last sure, sure, Yeah.

16:50 Speaker 9: It's all unknown. Every day is unknown, which makes it

16:52 Speaker 9: exciting but also terrifying.

16:55 Speaker 11: What has surprised you?

16:56 Speaker 12: Are there things that have surprised you just in terms

17:00 Speaker 12: of are there things about about your career where you

17:04 Speaker 12: kind of go, Okay, I didn't think this would be

17:06 Speaker 12: like this.

17:07 Speaker 11: I didn't think, Uh, I don't know. I didn't.

17:10 Speaker 12: I didn't think that, you know, whatever it is, it

17:13 Speaker 12: could even be something negative, like I didn't think, you know,

17:15 Speaker 12: Spotify would pay so poorly or whatever it is. Like,

17:17 Speaker 12: are there things even counter that have really been a

17:19 Speaker 12: surprise to you?

17:20 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there's always surprises around every corner. Yeah,

17:25 Speaker 9: but with this, I think I've just been really surprising

17:28 Speaker 9: my myself. I haven't really I didn't really realize what

17:33 Speaker 9: I've I was capable of, because I've I'm always such

17:37 Speaker 9: like a nervous and shy person. I'm I look at

17:41 Speaker 9: myself as like an introverted extrovert, Like I actually have

17:44 Speaker 9: a really hard time with performing, which has always surprised

17:47 Speaker 9: me because I loved the theater of being on stage. Yeah,

17:50 Speaker 9: but that was that was down that I think about

17:53 Speaker 9: it Probably the first most kind of like shock factor

17:56 Speaker 9: for me. When I got on stage for the first time,

17:58 Speaker 9: I was my guitar. I'm like, oh, I'm not a character.

18:01 Speaker 9: I'm not playing somebody interesting. This is me, and you

18:06 Speaker 9: can't I mean, you can't act unless you want to

18:09 Speaker 9: try to be a different persona. But it's it's a

18:12 Speaker 9: goal of mine to always be as authentic and just

18:15 Speaker 9: be myself and and hope that's enough. But that was

18:19 Speaker 9: that was really shocking to me to just be like,

18:21 Speaker 9: whoa this is. It's a completely different game than I

18:24 Speaker 9: thought it was performance wise, But there's there's just been

18:30 Speaker 9: a lot of different experiences that I have that have

18:32 Speaker 9: been surprising, Like like Jim challenged me, he was like

18:36 Speaker 9: got me down to Blackbird Studio in Nashville, and thinking,

18:41 Speaker 9: like I had so many thoughts of what that experience

18:44 Speaker 9: was going to be like and how those people, uh,

18:48 Speaker 9: what they were going to be like all my session

18:50 Speaker 9: musicians and my producer, and I did get to meet

18:53 Speaker 9: John McBride too, which was really cool. But I was

18:56 Speaker 9: just shocked at how down to earth and humble all

18:59 Speaker 9: those guys were and inviting and warm and welcoming. I

19:02 Speaker 9: was so scared for absolutely no reason. Yeah, I was

19:05 Speaker 9: treated with respect, which is refreshing in an industry where

19:09 Speaker 9: people always you never know, right, like we were talking

19:12 Speaker 9: about earlier. But I think it's there's just been so

19:17 Speaker 9: many surprises, but beautiful surprises too.

19:20 Speaker 10: Yeah.

19:20 Speaker 9: Yeah, and just again it goes back to discovering myself.

19:24 Speaker 9: I don't really I'm still finding myself. I just turned

19:27 Speaker 9: twenty seven, so I still feel like I'm I'm still

19:31 Speaker 9: a kid, right, No, it's better starting to figure it out.

19:37 Speaker 11: Yeah.

19:37 Speaker 12: The Nashville perspective is interesting. We've we've had a lot

19:41 Speaker 12: of guests on the show who you know, they talk

19:43 Speaker 12: about going to Nashville and how intimidating it is, you know,

19:48 Speaker 12: because it's Nashville, but you know, they find people who

19:52 Speaker 12: or they have you know, usually if someone has some

19:54 Speaker 12: sort of a connection already in Nashville, you know, it's

19:57 Speaker 12: it's hopefully it's going to be a positive experience, and

19:59 Speaker 12: it usually turns out to be. But it's you know,

20:01 Speaker 12: that's that's pretty intimidating. You know, it sounds really scary

20:04 Speaker 12: to me. Is like those songwriting circles, and I'm sure

20:08 Speaker 12: those happen. I know they happened in New York City too,

20:10 Speaker 12: But but Nash. I mean that sounds like really intense pressure.

20:13 Speaker 12: I don't know if you had an opportunity to do

20:15 Speaker 12: that when.

20:15 Speaker 11: You were there.

20:16 Speaker 9: No, I did not perform when I was down there.

20:18 Speaker 9: I was just in the studio and I'm glad I

20:20 Speaker 9: didn't because I definitely am not ready for the Yeah,

20:23 Speaker 9: it's like you said, it's intimidating.

20:25 Speaker 11: Yeah.

20:25 Speaker 9: Those are some of the best people in the game.

20:27 Speaker 11: Yep.

20:28 Speaker 9: Yeah, but then again I come up here in New

20:30 Speaker 9: Hampshire and we also have the talent is in my

20:34 Speaker 9: opinion at at some of the same level. Yeah, it's

20:39 Speaker 9: not directed to one location, but it was cool to

20:42 Speaker 9: go experience it.

20:43 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you though. It's like,

20:46 Speaker 12: you know, any anywhere. I mean, we have an incredible

20:48 Speaker 12: music scene here, but I would also say that's probably

20:51 Speaker 12: the case anywhere, Like any anywhere in the world, there's people,

20:55 Speaker 12: you know, That's the thing. We're fortunate to live in

20:56 Speaker 12: an era where, because of the Internet, you know, you

20:58 Speaker 12: can find music for anywhere in the world and find

21:01 Speaker 12: something you like. You know, there's we live in an

21:04 Speaker 12: amazing time in that sense, because like Jenny and I

21:06 Speaker 12: are old enough to remember when you know, you go

21:08 Speaker 12: to the you go to the record store, and you

21:10 Speaker 12: flip through and you find stuff, and you know, now

21:12 Speaker 12: you can just go online find anything you want. You know,

21:15 Speaker 12: I mean literally, you know any genre and you know

21:17 Speaker 12: you want to hear some Norwegian speed metal, well you can.

21:20 Speaker 12: You can go online and google that and find some

21:22 Speaker 12: and you might find something you like. You know, it's

21:25 Speaker 12: it's it's really a remarkable time that way. I feel

21:29 Speaker 12: like too. In music, people are just generally musicians creative

21:34 Speaker 12: types are just generally more supportive. I often draw a

21:40 Speaker 12: contrast with stand up comedy. Now, I have no experience

21:42 Speaker 12: in stand up comedy. I'm not a comic, but I

21:45 Speaker 12: some of the podcasts that I've fallen into listening to

21:48 Speaker 12: over the years are hosted by comics. And my impression

21:50 Speaker 12: of stand up comedy is that it's very cutthroat and

21:53 Speaker 12: everyone kind of secretly hates each other and sometimes it

21:57 Speaker 12: spills out into the open and it's But with music,

22:01 Speaker 12: I feel like all genres too. I feel like like

22:04 Speaker 12: people are just generally more supportive and want to see

22:07 Speaker 12: other people succeed and and want to want to help

22:10 Speaker 12: each other, and there's much more of a sense of community.

22:13 Speaker 9: Definitely, And that was honestly a big reason too why

22:18 Speaker 9: I made that transition from theater to the music, because

22:22 Speaker 9: I felt more of a warm and welcoming community. Yeah,

22:25 Speaker 9: it's it's hard with professional theater. It's it's very competitive

22:30 Speaker 9: and like everything matters like inside and out, like and

22:33 Speaker 9: you've got to be a triple threat. And I've never

22:36 Speaker 9: just been into competition. Yeah, just so when I was

22:43 Speaker 9: started out and playing out live and the the amount

22:46 Speaker 9: of support that I got despite not being that good

22:49 Speaker 9: when I first started, I look back at somebody was like,

22:52 Speaker 9: oh my gosh, but we all get to start somewhere.

22:56 Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.

22:57 Speaker 9: So, Yeah, it's just that when people are warm and

23:01 Speaker 9: welcoming it it helps everybody in the long run. We

23:05 Speaker 9: all need to support each other and be a part

23:08 Speaker 9: of it together because they can be isolating. We're all

23:10 Speaker 9: on the road by ourselves, so when you can get

23:13 Speaker 9: together or watch someone else, it's so important to make

23:15 Speaker 9: those connections.

23:17 Speaker 12: By the way you use the term triple threat, I

23:19 Speaker 12: think I've heard that before apply to theater. Is that

23:21 Speaker 12: let me let me see if I if I have

23:22 Speaker 12: it right?

23:23 Speaker 6: Is it?

23:23 Speaker 11: You got to be able to sing, dance, and act,

23:28 Speaker 11: you got it.

23:30 Speaker 9: I could not do the dance part.

23:33 Speaker 11: Did you do theater for a long time?

23:34 Speaker 1: I did?

23:35 Speaker 9: Yeah, I actually I was in the theater program up

23:38 Speaker 9: in Plmoth State University and I did some shows at

23:42 Speaker 9: like in the Interlake Summer Theater. There was a professional

23:45 Speaker 9: theater out of like the Tilt and prep school. So

23:47 Speaker 9: I was in both like community and professional stage shows. Yeah,

23:51 Speaker 9: which was really cool. And again, like those difference in

23:54 Speaker 9: communities in the support system. Community theater is in my opinion,

23:59 Speaker 9: so important Yeah, ef fort to have in every every city,

24:02 Speaker 9: every town that it was just so important to my

24:07 Speaker 9: development growing up. Yeah, and just having the.

24:10 Speaker 11: Arts, Yeah, you need them absolutely.

24:12 Speaker 12: So without that experience, you might not be doing what

24:14 Speaker 12: you're doing now, I would assume, Yeah.

24:16 Speaker 9: I probably wouldn't. I don't think i'd have the ability to.

24:20 Speaker 9: It's hard to step on stage.

24:22 Speaker 11: Sure, sure does that work for it? So I don't

24:26 Speaker 11: do it anymore.

24:27 Speaker 12: I used to play in bands, and for me, it

24:29 Speaker 12: was always because I'm an introvert. But which is surprises

24:34 Speaker 12: some people when they hear me say that because I

24:37 Speaker 12: do this, But it's like, yeah, but if you really understand,

24:39 Speaker 12: because extroverts don't understand what being an introvert really is

24:43 Speaker 12: in some ways. But but for me, it was always

24:46 Speaker 12: with playing out. It was like I would be very

24:48 Speaker 12: anxious right up to the moment of getting on stage.

24:51 Speaker 12: Once I was on stage, I just all that fell away.

24:57 Speaker 12: Although I never did what you so. I always played

25:01 Speaker 12: in bands, So when you're a dude and a band

25:04 Speaker 12: with a bunch of dudes.

25:05 Speaker 11: It's a little different, you know what. It's safer, you

25:07 Speaker 11: know what I mean.

25:08 Speaker 12: I was the bass, Like, if I'm a bass player

25:10 Speaker 12: in a rock band, there's you know, and other bass

25:13 Speaker 12: players might not like when I say this, but there's

25:15 Speaker 12: not a lot of pressure really because the attention is

25:18 Speaker 12: not on me when I'm on stage well doing what

25:20 Speaker 12: you do, the attention is all on you.

25:23 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's scary, especially being by yourself. Yeah, and I've

25:27 Speaker 9: really had to work on being confident with my guitar,

25:29 Speaker 9: being self taught, yeah, and trying to figure that out too.

25:34 Speaker 9: But it's I think, no matter what, it's just a

25:37 Speaker 9: step foot on stage on any type of stage, no

25:40 Speaker 9: matter if it's twenty people, one hundred and fifty people.

25:44 Speaker 9: To me, it's always scary, like you're saying, I still

25:46 Speaker 9: get that, like I despite seven years up until like

25:51 Speaker 9: I'm on stage, it takes me a little bit to

25:52 Speaker 9: settle in. But then once I do and get comfortable, yeah,

25:55 Speaker 9: it kind of fades away. Yeah yeah, but I'm also

25:58 Speaker 9: a perfectionist. I nip everything, so I try. I got

26:01 Speaker 9: to like find a way to escape and get out

26:03 Speaker 9: of my head. And it's so fure because the music

26:05 Speaker 9: does that for me. Yeah, I garret of those I'm

26:07 Speaker 9: just okay, what's the music that I'm playing? What's the

26:09 Speaker 9: story I'm telling?

26:11 Speaker 4: Well?

26:11 Speaker 12: You kind of want to be a little anxious, right,

26:13 Speaker 12: Like in a way, it's you know, it might not

26:15 Speaker 12: be the most pleasant thing to feel that nervousness, but

26:17 Speaker 12: if it went away, wouldn't you kind of miss it?

26:19 Speaker 12: Because then it's like, because any you might start wondering,

26:23 Speaker 12: I don't know, is this exciting to me still? Or

26:25 Speaker 12: am I am I getting complacent?

26:27 Speaker 11: You know?

26:27 Speaker 9: You make a good point there, ya Does the nerves

26:29 Speaker 9: tell us that we care and it's important to us.

26:33 Speaker 11: Yeah?

26:33 Speaker 9: And maybe that's why I haven't lost it because every

26:37 Speaker 9: day I don't, this just gets more meaningful to me

26:40 Speaker 9: because I've been doing it for so long now and

26:42 Speaker 9: chasing something kind of not really still not knowing what

26:45 Speaker 9: I'm chasing. Yeah, and just all I know is I

26:48 Speaker 9: want to have a career in music, right, But you

26:50 Speaker 9: could do so much with that, right, But yeah.

26:55 Speaker 11: Yeah, I because I had moments.

26:57 Speaker 12: I remember, you know, there were a couple of shows

26:59 Speaker 12: along the way where I I wasn't nervous before, but

27:01 Speaker 12: I look back and I realized, well, that's because there

27:04 Speaker 12: were shows where maybe there was hardly anyone there. So

27:06 Speaker 12: it's like, well, I kind of takes the pressure off

27:07 Speaker 12: when you're playing to an empty room. It's like there's

27:09 Speaker 12: nobody here, but you know, but then we'd play a

27:11 Speaker 12: show where there were people, and I'd get nervous again,

27:13 Speaker 12: and it's like, okay, good good, it's still there. But yeah,

27:16 Speaker 12: I'd like I'm I'm very much an introvert. But for me,

27:18 Speaker 12: it's like I'm much more comfortable being on stage or

27:24 Speaker 12: any kind of performance element.

27:27 Speaker 11: That's where I feel the safest. You know, whether it's.

27:30 Speaker 12: Being on stage, playing in a band, or being behind

27:32 Speaker 12: a microphone doing a radio show, or public speaking doesn't

27:36 Speaker 12: phaze me at all, actually enjoy it. I'm I feel

27:39 Speaker 12: more comfortable speaking in public than I do just having

27:43 Speaker 12: a conversation with.

27:44 Speaker 11: Somebody, and I mean, I'm you know I can do.

27:48 Speaker 12: I used to be very socially awkward, but I dealt

27:52 Speaker 12: with that. But but but ultimately, like this is where

27:54 Speaker 12: I feel the safest behind this microphone.

27:56 Speaker 11: You know what I mean? Does that make sense?

27:58 Speaker 6: It?

27:58 Speaker 9: Sure does. I know exactly what you mean and it

28:00 Speaker 9: and people don't understand it that don't do it.

28:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean?

28:04 Speaker 9: You're scared to get there? You're or you sing so well,

28:07 Speaker 9: or you you've been doing this for so long, And

28:09 Speaker 9: I'm like I it doesn't matter every time. I'm still

28:13 Speaker 9: just so terrifying, right right. I actually had the first

28:18 Speaker 9: opportunity to open for someone thanks to the New Hampshire

28:22 Speaker 9: Music Collective. Yeah, John MacArthur. I got to open up

28:26 Speaker 9: for John Gorka the Bank and Ham and it was incredible.

28:31 Speaker 9: And I really didn't think I was. I was trying

28:33 Speaker 9: to keep myself congcous. I knew I was gonna be nervous. Yeah,

28:36 Speaker 9: and I got up there. All I had to do

28:38 Speaker 9: was play for twenty minutes. I play for three hours

28:41 Speaker 9: almost every day. All of a sudden, Yeah, but I

28:44 Speaker 9: got so incredibly nervous. I had to run off stage

28:46 Speaker 9: and immediately throw up. I will how much I was

28:49 Speaker 9: worked up. Thank god nobody could tell.

28:52 Speaker 11: You you mean at the end of the site.

28:54 Speaker 9: Wow, and thank god I have run around the Yeah,

28:58 Speaker 9: And in my head, I'm like, why it's so scared

29:01 Speaker 9: Because I have been doing this so long and it

29:04 Speaker 9: was my own I'm wondering if it was with my

29:06 Speaker 9: own music. But I'm just finding that maybe it's just

29:10 Speaker 9: for me. But I don't think it's going to go away.

29:12 Speaker 9: Those nerves are always going to be there. But I

29:14 Speaker 9: just I care so deeply, and I also just want

29:18 Speaker 9: to create an experience for anyone that's at one of

29:21 Speaker 9: my shows, even if it's just to escape or or

29:25 Speaker 9: to get out whatever you're feeling that heartbreak they just

29:28 Speaker 9: went through. Sometimes you just need to hear that sad

29:30 Speaker 9: song or something. But yeah, I think I will forever

29:35 Speaker 9: be nervous.

29:37 Speaker 12: Unfortunately, Have you gotten an open for for anybody else

29:40 Speaker 12: like that, like John Gorka?

29:42 Speaker 9: No, that's that's it so far. I hope too. That's

29:46 Speaker 9: my goin in the future to do more of that.

29:48 Speaker 9: I really enjoyed it.

29:49 Speaker 11: Do you have like a kind of a dream idea

29:52 Speaker 11: of who you'd really like to open for. Is there

29:54 Speaker 11: someone you just think would be.

29:57 Speaker 9: Would love to open up for? Liz Longly So she's

30:01 Speaker 9: one of my favorite singer songwriters.

30:03 Speaker 11: Not familiar with her.

30:04 Speaker 9: She I think she's from Pennsylvania, but she's in Nashville.

30:08 Speaker 9: It's kind of like an Americana artist, but she does

30:11 Speaker 9: a little bit of everything. But I saw her live

30:13 Speaker 9: at the Tupelou Music Hall. I just wanted to go

30:16 Speaker 9: to a show. I had the night off. I never

30:18 Speaker 9: get Fridays or Saturdays off. I think this was like

30:21 Speaker 9: that's probably four years ago now. Yeah, and I saw

30:25 Speaker 9: it was a female artist, and if I get a chance,

30:28 Speaker 9: like I always try to find someone that I can

30:31 Speaker 9: just go for inspiration or just to see what someone

30:33 Speaker 9: else is doing. Yeah, And I absolutely fell in love

30:36 Speaker 9: with her in the way that she told her stories

30:39 Speaker 9: and her songs just had a great sound. But I

30:42 Speaker 9: absolutely adore her and her one of her songs is

30:45 Speaker 9: actually what inspired me to write my own And am

30:49 Speaker 9: I missing something? So if I could open up for

30:52 Speaker 9: her one day that I think I could fit well

30:54 Speaker 9: into into like her sound too, like we'd pair well.

30:58 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, oh very cool.

31:00 Speaker 9: Maybe one day.

31:02 Speaker 12: If you're just joining us. Rebecca Turmelo is here with

31:04 Speaker 12: us live in studio. Have you is anyone reached out

31:09 Speaker 12: to her like to try to, you know, like maybe

31:12 Speaker 12: John or somebody like just kind of.

31:15 Speaker 9: I would like to, but I think I'd be too

31:18 Speaker 9: scared to do it right now, you know what I mean.

31:20 Speaker 9: But it's Liz Longley. I need to be ready because

31:23 Speaker 9: actually so I'm in a duo partner with I'm So Lucky,

31:27 Speaker 9: My my, my boyfriend, and musical genius all in one.

31:30 Speaker 9: We played together all the time. Oh, we saw her

31:32 Speaker 9: when she came to The Flying Monkey at the beginning.

31:35 Speaker 9: It was March I think this year, and he's like,

31:39 Speaker 9: you have to go talk to her. She came out

31:41 Speaker 9: after the show. Oh really, I my first experience with

31:47 Speaker 9: like getting starstruck. Yeah, yeah, like is this what it

31:51 Speaker 9: feels like? But she he told her that we always

31:55 Speaker 9: play her song Camaro's. This song is incredible in terms

31:58 Speaker 9: of like the lyrics and the story's story I can

32:00 Speaker 9: relate to. And she's like, oh, send me a video

32:03 Speaker 9: when you get the chance. So every time we play it.

32:05 Speaker 9: Now I've been taking a video and I'm like, when

32:06 Speaker 9: it's right, maybe we'll send it over to her see

32:09 Speaker 9: what happens, and maybe that could be the opportunity.

32:11 Speaker 12: That could be No, that could very well, that could

32:14 Speaker 12: very well be an n So. Now, so how often

32:17 Speaker 12: do you play as a duo?

32:19 Speaker 9: Not too often, probably about like two or three times

32:22 Speaker 9: a month. But we just played actually last night, we

32:26 Speaker 9: played a thirtieth birthday party for a good friend of ours.

32:30 Speaker 9: But we we've been writing some music together and that's

32:33 Speaker 9: been another great experience lately, is working and writing with

32:37 Speaker 9: someone else and we we end to Actually it was

32:42 Speaker 9: the two of us that recorded the Studio Portland, so

32:44 Speaker 9: I'm really hoping we got some good takes because it

32:46 Speaker 9: was nerve wracking. Oh really, yeah, So I hope to

32:50 Speaker 9: have some of our music out soon because we performed

32:53 Speaker 9: a duet that we wrote together there.

32:54 Speaker 11: Excellent. Does he also play guitar?

32:57 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Okay, he is the most talented guitarist that

32:59 Speaker 9: I know. But he also is a singer songwriter. He

33:02 Speaker 9: produces great with all the recording, so I'm actually learning

33:05 Speaker 9: a lot from him in that sense. Brendan Gill Gill

33:10 Speaker 9: and he just actually released his first single are You Here?

33:15 Speaker 9: And self produced that and mixed it on his own

33:19 Speaker 9: And I'm the quality of it. It just came out great,

33:23 Speaker 9: and I'm like, I wish, I wish I would have

33:26 Speaker 9: put a little bit more time into my first song.

33:27 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm proud of how it came out, but

33:29 Speaker 9: it's nice to see, uh, like because he put a

33:32 Speaker 9: lot of time and years into it versus I just

33:35 Speaker 9: kind of had of ripped that band aid off. I'm

33:36 Speaker 9: just gonna get in there. Whatever happens, happens, we'll capture it.

33:39 Speaker 9: I can always re record it, right, right, So I

33:43 Speaker 9: it's it's it's it's cool to like meet somebody else

33:47 Speaker 9: who has a different perspective and a different way of

33:49 Speaker 9: doing things because I'm learning from that. I'm not stuck

33:52 Speaker 9: in my ways. I'm seeing how something else works with

33:54 Speaker 9: a different approach.

33:56 Speaker 10: Right.

33:56 Speaker 9: So I'm lucky too, Like I just I get to

33:59 Speaker 9: spend all my time with him doing what I love,

34:02 Speaker 9: with the person I love it. There's nothing that beats that.

34:04 Speaker 12: That's awesome, excellent, excellent. Well we should, uh we'll play

34:07 Speaker 12: another track. What should we play next? I'll let you pick,

34:11 Speaker 12: We've got the road song or wish you Well.

34:13 Speaker 9: Let's do wish you Well? Because that was that's kind

34:15 Speaker 9: of like part two that am I missing something?

34:17 Speaker 6: Oh?

34:18 Speaker 12: Okay, perfect, and then we'll play we'll play road song

34:20 Speaker 12: at the end of the segment. But if you are

34:22 Speaker 12: just doing your nest. Rebecca Turmael is with us here

34:24 Speaker 12: in studio. Oh which studio was this one recorded?

34:27 Speaker 9: Also the underground?

34:28 Speaker 11: Okay? Gotcha? And Vermont?

34:30 Speaker 4: Yeah?

34:31 Speaker 11: I said, okay, very good, All right, this is wish

34:33 Speaker 11: you well.

34:56 Speaker 3: I did everything.

34:59 Speaker 8: Do you would try and page, but that's not who I.

35:07 Speaker 1: Have ever sees.

35:14 Speaker 5: Even after those things you didn't sit.

35:22 Speaker 3: Don't wanna old them against you. Wish you well instead.

35:30 Speaker 13: I was sure if I could tell you two.

35:37 Speaker 1: This one, I will wish you invent fill Oh, I

35:45 Speaker 1: wish you.

35:50 Speaker 5: I've found this snull point, your turn fromb.

35:55 Speaker 1: And men, letting go of it all. Yup. I hope

36:08 Speaker 1: you here you can be free from all your pay.

36:17 Speaker 3: It may not work it down, but I'll never be

36:22 Speaker 3: a ship. As If I could.

36:28 Speaker 13: Tell you two in.

36:30 Speaker 3: Your face, here's my I'd say, Afraid.

36:36 Speaker 14: To love is.

36:37 Speaker 1: Sound, It's true a ship.

37:01 Speaker 3: I wish you.

37:03 Speaker 15: If I could tell you to your faces walking ahead.

37:09 Speaker 1: Say abraid to yourself it's okay.

37:16 Speaker 3: A small huh.

37:19 Speaker 13: Sell to your face us saying with you ju ju is.

37:48 Speaker 11: Oh, that's nice. I wish you well.

37:50 Speaker 12: Rebecca Turmal is here with us live in studio on

37:54 Speaker 12: this Saturday morning here on Matt connorton Unleashed, and yeah,

38:00 Speaker 12: we were. We were kind of talking off air about

38:02 Speaker 12: the song and how great the mix is and and

38:05 Speaker 12: how how nice those guitars sound, and as you pointed

38:08 Speaker 12: out to the drums sound really good. And and he's

38:10 Speaker 12: a he's a what's his name, Vinnie?

38:12 Speaker 1: Is that yeah?

38:12 Speaker 9: Vincent Freeman.

38:13 Speaker 11: Yeah, he's a drummer. Yeah. Yeah.

38:17 Speaker 12: Now that's a lot of the stuff that comes out

38:20 Speaker 12: in Nashville too. I always say this, I'm curious if

38:22 Speaker 12: you agree with me in terms of production. I mean,

38:24 Speaker 12: the production on that is phenomenal. I feel like I'm

38:27 Speaker 12: not a I'm not a big country guy, but I

38:29 Speaker 12: feel like the best produced because I have a somewhat

38:33 Speaker 12: of a background in audio production, the best produced music

38:37 Speaker 12: to me, but you just here on the radio on

38:39 Speaker 12: commercial radio is coming out of Nashville in terms of

38:43 Speaker 12: how the guitars sound and how the drums sound like.

38:45 Speaker 12: I feel like Nashville's really got it down right now,

38:47 Speaker 12: you know. But I'm picky as hell. Too, like, especially

38:49 Speaker 12: about how drums sound. You know, like something went somewhere

38:54 Speaker 12: along the line with uh. I think it probably started

38:57 Speaker 12: in the nineties, like with rock music, something to me

39:00 Speaker 12: went wrong with the way guitars are recorded. They they

39:03 Speaker 12: don't sound right to me. And and a lot of

39:05 Speaker 12: a lot with drums too, you know. But I feel like,

39:09 Speaker 12: but anything that comes out of Nashville, it's like they've

39:11 Speaker 12: really nailed it, you know.

39:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's a big reason why I made the

39:16 Speaker 9: decision to go down there. I would have sent you

39:19 Speaker 9: that song, but I didn't have a radio edit. And

39:20 Speaker 9: I say, one bed word, no, it's not really that bad.

39:24 Speaker 9: But I wrote this song with Jim called Girls on

39:27 Speaker 9: Fire my female empowerment anthem. But that was something I

39:33 Speaker 9: noticed too when I was down there or listening back

39:35 Speaker 9: to just like the first take, Yeah, like is this real?

39:41 Speaker 9: So good? They haven't even touched it yet. Yeah, but

39:43 Speaker 9: they had one of those I just I don't have

39:46 Speaker 9: too much knowledge on it yet. I'm learning more about it,

39:49 Speaker 9: like one of the original Neve consoles. Does that sound correct?

39:54 Speaker 9: And but the drums sound that came out of that

39:57 Speaker 9: was really really impressive. And that was the first time too,

40:01 Speaker 9: when I was in that studio, noticing and starting to

40:05 Speaker 9: listen and hear the difference in sounds and instruments and

40:08 Speaker 9: even my vocals and background vocals. Yeah, and that's why

40:13 Speaker 9: I kind of had been experimenting with jumping around at

40:16 Speaker 9: different studios so I can learn and hear it and

40:19 Speaker 9: know what I like, because I don't. I don't know

40:20 Speaker 9: that yet. I only recorded a handful of songs so far.

40:25 Speaker 11: All the backing vocals. That's all you I assume on.

40:28 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wish you well yep. And then am I

40:30 Speaker 9: missing stuff they too?

40:31 Speaker 11: Yeah? Okay, yeah? Yeah? Is that?

40:35 Speaker 3: Uh?

40:36 Speaker 11: Is that challenging to to do?

40:38 Speaker 12: Like those layered vocals where you're kind of harmonizing with

40:41 Speaker 12: yourself or does that come easy?

40:43 Speaker 9: It can be. That's something I noticed too and growing

40:46 Speaker 9: up in the theater and I did. Course, Yeah, I

40:49 Speaker 9: was a kid too, so that helps me in terms

40:51 Speaker 9: of being able to hear it. But yeah, when it's

40:54 Speaker 9: your own voice and and it's it's kind of funky, uh.

40:58 Speaker 9: So that it was nice. When I was down at Blackbird,

41:01 Speaker 9: I was able to hire a background vocalist and she

41:04 Speaker 9: came in and I swear it only took her like

41:05 Speaker 9: five minutes and it's not an easy song to sing.

41:08 Speaker 9: I'm in there all day, like, oh am, I gonna

41:09 Speaker 9: do this. And then her name was Marcia, and she

41:13 Speaker 9: was just just like just this beautiful, bright, bubbly energy

41:18 Speaker 9: that I needed day. But she just sang was that.

41:21 Speaker 9: I'll never forget what she said too. She's like, wow, girl,

41:24 Speaker 9: this is a barn burner.

41:26 Speaker 11: Oh that's school. That's cool.

41:28 Speaker 9: I will never forget that. Yeah, but it was nice

41:31 Speaker 9: to hear that difference too, And it's it. I would

41:34 Speaker 9: like to like it's I can do it myself, but

41:37 Speaker 9: I feel like it adds a different element and a

41:39 Speaker 9: different sound and gives it more of a quality to

41:41 Speaker 9: it when you have a contrasting tone or what it's

41:44 Speaker 9: kind of similar.

41:44 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

41:48 Speaker 12: Now are these all on an album that's available or what?

41:52 Speaker 4: So?

41:52 Speaker 9: No, I actually have been releasing single by single, okay,

41:56 Speaker 9: because I really being new to it and just not

42:00 Speaker 9: sure of where it was going or what I wanted

42:02 Speaker 9: to do. I wanted to just like give each song

42:05 Speaker 9: sole focus. Yeah so far, But actually I just recently

42:11 Speaker 9: finished recording. It still needs to be mixed and master

42:14 Speaker 9: and all that. My first collection of songs in a

42:17 Speaker 9: three song EP, okay, and that was that was interesting

42:21 Speaker 9: to do because I haven't done that yet, working on

42:23 Speaker 9: a collection of music and keeping like a similar sound, yeah,

42:27 Speaker 9: and stories and such. But yeah, the song by song

42:31 Speaker 9: I think was a good choice for me, just being

42:35 Speaker 9: not knowing who I was as an artist yet.

42:38 Speaker 11: That makes sense.

42:39 Speaker 12: Yeah, And you know, we again, we live in a

42:41 Speaker 12: time where you know, you've got different options in terms

42:45 Speaker 12: of like when I was growing up, it was, you know,

42:47 Speaker 12: somebody would put out an album and usually there would

42:49 Speaker 12: be a single for the album that would go to radio,

42:52 Speaker 12: usually six eight weeks before the album was coming out,

42:55 Speaker 12: and then the album would come out, and then subsequent

42:58 Speaker 12: singles would come out. And that was just the standard

43:01 Speaker 12: way of doing it. Whereas now you know, you can

43:03 Speaker 12: do it any way you want to, like a lot

43:05 Speaker 12: of a lot of guests that we have on the show,

43:07 Speaker 12: do it the way you're doing it, where you know,

43:09 Speaker 12: you have a series of singles and maybe eventually those

43:11 Speaker 12: singles become an EP or an album or maybe not.

43:14 Speaker 9: But yeah, there was something interesting actually that Bennie told

43:18 Speaker 9: me from the underground. He's like, have you ever heard

43:19 Speaker 9: of the Waterfall release?

43:21 Speaker 11: The Waterfall effect.

43:22 Speaker 12: Yeah, oh, Temple Mountain. You know, he was on last

43:27 Speaker 12: week and he was talking about that because that that's

43:29 Speaker 12: been his approach to Yeah, and.

43:31 Speaker 9: It seems to work for people. But in our constantly

43:35 Speaker 9: changing music industry and especially with the way people consume

43:39 Speaker 9: their music, I think to releasing song by song it

43:44 Speaker 9: gives more life to each to each song and and

43:50 Speaker 9: not something for people to look forward to and stay

43:52 Speaker 9: stay connected with. You release all those songs at once,

43:55 Speaker 9: like that moment's over. You can kind of acceend that

43:58 Speaker 9: that's true when you release song by song. Yeah, because

44:01 Speaker 9: especially as as someone like me who's also writing music

44:05 Speaker 9: and trying to become a recording artist as well, building

44:08 Speaker 9: that community and keeping those my followers and my fans

44:11 Speaker 9: engaged and just and wanting to hear more. So I

44:15 Speaker 9: think it's been it's been working so far. But I'm

44:18 Speaker 9: really intrigued by that Waterfall release and here I might

44:21 Speaker 9: utilize that.

44:22 Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The time goes so fast.

44:26 Speaker 12: So what's what's kind of your uh what do you

44:30 Speaker 12: see as sort of the long term trajectory or do

44:33 Speaker 12: you know, like do you have kind of a plan

44:34 Speaker 12: in terms of uh, are you are you going to

44:37 Speaker 12: or maybe I don't know if you're done a national.

44:38 Speaker 1: Tour or no.

44:40 Speaker 9: But I would love even I it's it's just around

44:43 Speaker 9: New England, just to go out perform some shows singer

44:48 Speaker 9: songwriter style, just me and my guitar and tell my stories.

44:53 Speaker 9: But my my alsomate goal, Like I I just I

44:58 Speaker 9: just love being in the studio and created and I've

45:01 Speaker 9: always wanted to look into what it would be like

45:04 Speaker 9: to write for other people as well, because I just

45:06 Speaker 9: love writing and creating and being in that process, like

45:10 Speaker 9: being in the spotlight is not really what I want necessarily.

45:16 Speaker 9: I just want to create the music and create something meaningful. Okay,

45:19 Speaker 9: So because it's it's so funny and it feels weird

45:23 Speaker 9: to say this, but if I didn't have to perform again,

45:27 Speaker 9: I'd be okay with that. But as long as I

45:29 Speaker 9: have my studio and I can write my music and

45:31 Speaker 9: just play my guitar, happy because it's what we were

45:35 Speaker 9: talking about. It's so nerve wracking and like, but for

45:37 Speaker 9: some reason, I have to keep doing it. It's like

45:40 Speaker 9: a calling and I can't. I can't be a songwriter

45:44 Speaker 9: without performing. So it's like kind of you gotta do

45:46 Speaker 9: it's hand in hand.

45:47 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, and it's working for you. It's

45:50 Speaker 12: it's uh, it's definitely working. Have you You mentioned earlier too,

45:55 Speaker 12: because you know our audience, we know this industry, people

45:59 Speaker 12: who listen. There's also a lot of musicians who are,

46:01 Speaker 12: you know, trying to make their way. Do you have

46:03 Speaker 12: any advice for someone because you've been able to really

46:07 Speaker 12: make some leaps and bounds in a short time, do

46:09 Speaker 12: you have any advice for someone who's maybe starting out,

46:11 Speaker 12: maybe a singer songwriter starting out.

46:14 Speaker 9: The worst thing you can do is compare yourself to

46:17 Speaker 9: those around you. Like we were saying earlier, it's not

46:19 Speaker 9: a comparison. Use it as a learning experience. You are

46:25 Speaker 9: your own person. You have your own perspective in your

46:27 Speaker 9: own voice, So trust that that's enough. I didn't at first,

46:32 Speaker 9: and it's hard to ignore all the noise, so to

46:36 Speaker 9: say sure, but also just forcing yourself to do it.

46:41 Speaker 9: If you're scared of something, you should probably go and

46:43 Speaker 9: do that thing because that's going to bring you further.

46:48 Speaker 9: I remember I couldn't even keep my hands still when

46:52 Speaker 9: I was playing my guitar. But I'm like, I'm doing

46:54 Speaker 9: it because you cannot get better if you don't do it.

46:56 Speaker 9: So I think the biggest thing that helped me was

46:58 Speaker 9: just forcing myself into those difficult situations, figuring it out

47:02 Speaker 9: in the moment. And although I may not have believed

47:05 Speaker 9: in myself, just at least trying to find a little

47:07 Speaker 9: bit belief. So do the hard things and and just

47:12 Speaker 9: do the best you can at the end of the day,

47:13 Speaker 9: that's all you can do. Just do something, move the goalpost,

47:17 Speaker 9: even if it's just a little bit.

47:18 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think that's great advice. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

47:23 Speaker 12: And where should people go online to keep up with

47:25 Speaker 12: everything that you're doing?

47:26 Speaker 9: So I have a website Rebecca Turmel dot com, but

47:29 Speaker 9: you can find me on Facebook and Instagram and if

47:34 Speaker 9: you want to see me before my mom bands intown too, so,

47:36 Speaker 9: which is a great website. Alert see in your area.

47:39 Speaker 11: I love that absolutely.

47:41 Speaker 9: But I'm all around. I'm actually we'll be at an

47:43 Speaker 9: Oddball brewing tonight in Pembrooke or Suncook for the first time.

47:47 Speaker 11: Okay, So I'm all over.

47:49 Speaker 9: I try I play. I play a lot in New Hampshire,

47:52 Speaker 9: but I'm in mass in Vermont sometimes as well. Yeah,

47:55 Speaker 9: I'll go where old they'll let me sing with my guitar.

47:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, where's the furthest you've gone as far as

48:00 Speaker 12: playing shows.

48:02 Speaker 9: I mean I've played down in Florida that was moartest

48:04 Speaker 9: because on vacation, but in this area by Portland's probably

48:09 Speaker 9: the farthest. Yeah, actually, because now I've been Killington that's

48:14 Speaker 9: pretty part. That's pretty far too in terms of where

48:16 Speaker 9: I'm located. Yeah, but probably the farthest I've driven is

48:19 Speaker 9: three hours for a show.

48:20 Speaker 11: Yeah.

48:21 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think that's something too that that helps

48:23 Speaker 9: me get a little bit farther. Is I just I

48:26 Speaker 9: didn't care how long I had to drive where I

48:27 Speaker 9: had to go, So if I had the gig opportunity

48:30 Speaker 9: again getting that experience, that helped me out tremendously. Am

48:33 Speaker 9: I I'll take it, I'll drive, I can do it.

48:36 Speaker 10: Well.

48:36 Speaker 12: That reminds me of what, you know, we had a

48:38 Speaker 12: Frank Allagher played a Plague Dad rather on with us

48:42 Speaker 12: during the first hour. You know, he's from Portland and

48:44 Speaker 12: he was saying, uh, yeah, I just you know, play

48:46 Speaker 12: out as much as possible, which is which is interesting

48:50 Speaker 12: too because some some people it tends to be more

48:52 Speaker 12: so people in bands, people in like four piece rock

48:55 Speaker 12: bands who say yeah, you actually don't want to play

48:59 Speaker 12: out too much because you oversaturating. But but I I

49:02 Speaker 12: always when I used to play, I always just wanted

49:04 Speaker 12: to play as much as I possibly could, you know,

49:06 Speaker 12: that was my That was my kind of ethos about it.

49:09 Speaker 12: Just just get out there and play as much as

49:11 Speaker 12: you can. I mean, I think you know, if you're

49:13 Speaker 12: playing the same if you're playing the same bar every

49:15 Speaker 12: single week or something, you can oversaturate. But yeah, but

49:18 Speaker 12: you also want the experience and and you know, and

49:21 Speaker 12: and seize every opportunity to uh, you know, to get

49:24 Speaker 12: out there. And and because it's not the other thing

49:27 Speaker 12: too that I think some people miss is it's not

49:29 Speaker 12: just about being in front of audiences. It's also about

49:32 Speaker 12: making those connections.

49:33 Speaker 11: You know.

49:33 Speaker 12: You might go play to a room where there's only

49:37 Speaker 12: a couple of people there, but one of those couple

49:38 Speaker 12: of people might also be a musician, and they might

49:41 Speaker 12: also they might be interested in what you're doing, or

49:43 Speaker 12: they might do something else in the scene, you know,

49:45 Speaker 12: and they want to connect with you. And so there's

49:47 Speaker 12: always opportunities, and you know, you miss all those opportunities

49:51 Speaker 12: if you don't take them.

49:52 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you you never know who's going to be

49:54 Speaker 9: in the crowd yep, I never if there is a

49:57 Speaker 9: venue that reach I always tried to play each place

50:00 Speaker 9: that reaches out to me, despite like maybe other judgments

50:06 Speaker 9: people have, like about the room or whatever. I always

50:08 Speaker 9: try to get my own opinion. I think everybody it

50:11 Speaker 9: deserves the benefit of the doubt. But it you just

50:15 Speaker 9: you never know who's going to be there. Actually, this

50:18 Speaker 9: past summer I was playing at Shopper's Pub in Manchester

50:22 Speaker 9: and Godsmack's guitar tech and manager we're eating dinner. I

50:26 Speaker 9: was playing and he ended up giving me VIP passes

50:29 Speaker 9: to go see the show and I'm just as pub

50:34 Speaker 9: is so cool.

50:35 Speaker 12: Yeah, you just never know. You just never know. Well, Rebecca,

50:39 Speaker 12: thank you so much. Rebecca Turmel here with us in

50:42 Speaker 12: studio this morning. This has been wonderful. In a moment,

50:45 Speaker 12: we'll uh, we'll we'll close out with the road song,

50:48 Speaker 12: But thank you and Jenny. Do you want to plug

50:51 Speaker 12: your website and anything else you want to mention?

50:53 Speaker 16: Absolutely, you can come check me out at Gencoffee dot com.

50:56 Speaker 16: J E N N C O F f uy dot com.

51:00 Speaker 16: We don't forget to check out the Mosaic are collective

51:02 Speaker 16: here in the Queens City. The Spellbound Yes is still

51:06 Speaker 16: up and the announcement will come tomorrow on who's going

51:11 Speaker 16: to be in the many miniatures. All the art coming

51:15 Speaker 16: up in the next show is below a twelve times

51:17 Speaker 16: twelve by twelve size.

51:20 Speaker 11: Well it's little little, little little little pieces.

51:22 Speaker 16: Yeah, masterpieces. Yeah, I'm excited to see what that brings.

51:26 Speaker 11: Yes, Yes, all right, very good, very good. So thank

51:30 Speaker 11: you to everybody who joined us today.

51:31 Speaker 12: If you miss any part of today's show, it will

51:33 Speaker 12: be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot

51:36 Speaker 12: orgon on my website Matt Connerton dot com.

51:39 Speaker 11: And we will leave you with the Road song and

51:43 Speaker 11: anything we should know about this one before we play it.

51:45 Speaker 9: Rebecca, So this song, it's fitting we're ending on it,

51:48 Speaker 9: especially after everything we talked about. This is like my

51:51 Speaker 9: homage to all my other full time musicians out there.

51:54 Speaker 11: Oh cool.

51:55 Speaker 9: And this is a song that I wrote with Jimmyeger

51:57 Speaker 9: and probably the one I'm most proud of so far.

52:00 Speaker 9: We actually have Jackson Brown's guitarist b McCollum on this track,

52:03 Speaker 9: Oh Vermont, and I said it just captured the essence

52:07 Speaker 9: of the Road and he sure did so.

52:08 Speaker 12: Oh, very cool, very cool, perfect way to end all

52:11 Speaker 12: right here it is Rebecca Turmel.

52:13 Speaker 11: This is called the road sign.

52:27 Speaker 3: Drivingly. It's not in them thinking.

52:32 Speaker 8: What it brought me to this place so far, single

52:38 Speaker 8: foot people eating and drinking, they put them money in

52:44 Speaker 8: my job. Life gets only on the road townisal Mom.

52:59 Speaker 6: And life kill the lights m mody heading normand night

53:04 Speaker 6: my artist spraying.

53:05 Speaker 3: I see that.

53:08 Speaker 4: Out on.

53:15 Speaker 8: I had no choice in music shows me and once

53:21 Speaker 8: it did not go emphatic. I guess there's many sacrifice it.

53:31 Speaker 1: But once again it's time to pack.

53:36 Speaker 6: Head and NodD on down the road, down and down

53:43 Speaker 6: around Mom, I don't and they've killed the lights umbodying

53:51 Speaker 6: Armen Night.

53:52 Speaker 3: My heartiest spray and I seen that so I gets

53:58 Speaker 3: only on the.

54:03 Speaker 5: Moun realm b you know when they've killed the lights.

54:11 Speaker 5: I'm family heading Holly night, the ardest free.

54:14 Speaker 1: And I see bas.

54:17 Speaker 3: Out life gets lonely on the road.

54:43 Speaker 15: Town and town and realm Boma, you know when they've

54:49 Speaker 15: killed the lights.

54:51 Speaker 1: I'm findly head in honly night.

54:53 Speaker 3: My heartiest free and I seen bas a mamas a.

55:00 Speaker 1: Bad honor roll.

55:04 Speaker 3: Else taking a b.

55:09 Speaker 17: And know when they felled the lights, Bobby had.

55:13 Speaker 5: In Bonie night my honest bringing us seen by love.

55:19 Speaker 17: Your own room, your own room, your own.

55:30 Speaker 1: Room, your old room, you know.

55:52 Speaker 17: Your room.

55:56 Speaker 4: You we up the tier on overnight.

56:14 Speaker 18: Get a part that nob womal dog something I will

56:22 Speaker 18: spy five days.

56:25 Speaker 19: A funny bok dog.

56:30 Speaker 4: Your dum.

56:33 Speaker 17: Nom no better.

56:37 Speaker 1: Speak up the weeks.

56:39 Speaker 4: Thus head, I don't know, get it, set it dirt room, dead.

56:47 Speaker 14: It, dirt room, Captain Shard.

56:53 Speaker 17: And dob Di down home? Did it.

57:05 Speaker 4: Right?

57:06 Speaker 14: A night of fe fide?

57:08 Speaker 4: Where the fall town is there?

57:15 Speaker 20: I'm wet I turf you don't want haven't read it?

57:24 Speaker 20: That is a window, don't we haven't like any week?

57:32 Speaker 14: Where does the time go down?

57:35 Speaker 8: All the dead.

57:38 Speaker 4: Dead in turn.

57:41 Speaker 20: Deadur well with death tives haven't to do?

57:49 Speaker 10: Night down all the dead dirt ride dash for lights.

58:25 Speaker 8: I could say my world is your ride.

58:31 Speaker 4: Yore d.

58:39 Speaker 14: Yo wrong around by des do would never go back.

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