Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-20-25 hour 3

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Speaker 4: That is another epic track from Tombstones in Their Eyes that is under Dark Skies. Love that track. And let's see, let's see here. We'll bring this mike up. We're gonna try to talk to John treen Or from the.

Speaker 5: Band Just one too, I can take one too.

Speaker 6: Hello, Hey John, I can I can hear you? Can you hear me?

Speaker 5: Yes?

Speaker 4: Oh beautiful? You sound great? So you switch to a different mic. I guess that's uh, I guess that's all we needed. Wonderful, Welcome to the show. I'm glad we got to talk. I was getting nervous. But I really, uh, I really like this project. This is really good Tombstones in Their Eyes great stuff. We did play the we played the single earlier Alive and Well, and of course that was the title track under Dark Skies and I love this band. Is this your project? Are you kind of the main guy? So you guys are now now you're you're on the West coast?

Speaker 6: Is that correct?

Speaker 5: I am los Angeles.

Speaker 6: You're you're an LA.

Speaker 4: Based band, and are you are you kind of the the main the main guy? Are you kind of the the center of the of the band? In terms of of uh steering the project?

Speaker 5: I am. This is my band. I write the songs. UH formed it originally and uh yeah, so that's the deal man.

Speaker 4: How long has this existed? How long has Tombstones in Their Eyes existed?

Speaker 5: We're at ten years now, ten.

Speaker 6: Years, that's a long time.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 4: I was looking at band camp and I thought, wow, they've got a lot of material. You've released quite a bit over that span of time, which is impressive. Yeah, it's very very impressive.

Speaker 6: Now I assume the uh, oh go ahead, No, you go.

Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna say, I assume the makeup of the band has changed quite a bit over that time.

Speaker 5: It has. Yeah, the people I originally did the first recordings with are no longer around. I've got a bunch of newer people, some been around longer than others. The drummer Steven has been with me for a long time. And yeah, but yeah, things are pretty solid right now.

Speaker 4: Has it been a challenge to keep this project going for ten years? Because some you know, some people if they have a band and people start leaving and they have to cycle people out, at some point they they kind of they kind of start to think, well, maybe I'll start a new project myself, since you know people are coming and going. But ten years, I mean, that's impressive longevity. Has it been? Has it been challenging at times to keep this going? Have you ever been tempted to start something new? Or maybe you're just firmly committed to this and you're gonna keep going no matter what.

Speaker 4: I mean, what what's kind of been your your approach to that over the years.

Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my thing and I'm gonna keep it going as long as as long as I keep writing songs. You know, That's how I see it.

Speaker 4: No, that's great. I assume too. Where you are obviously you've got a lot of talent around you. So how hard is it to find musicians to bring in when you have to do that, when you have to make a change, when somebody's leaving and you've got to replace them, is it?

Speaker 7: Uh?

Speaker 6: I mean?

Speaker 4: Do you do you hold auditions or do you just know people already who would be suitable for these various Because at this point you're you're Are you the only original member?

Speaker 6: I assume you're the only one, right, Oh, yes, ma'am. Yeah. So how hard is it to find people or is it pretty easy?

Speaker 5: It's not, you know, it varies, right. So I had a search a while back for someone on bass, and we tried some things, and I ended up going back to someone i'd used before, a guy named Nick, who is still in the band and recently I had the same experience, but it was easier. Our guitar player Paul Bluten passed away a couple of months ago.

Speaker 6: Oh wow, sorry to hear that. That's terrible. Oh that's awful.

Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't really planning on replacing him at this point. We just took some time off. But then I thought of this guy in the studio, an engineer where we record at Kitt and Robot Studio, and I asked him and his name is John Miller, and I think he's coming aboard. So that one, that one was particularly easy, but it could be difficult.

Speaker 6: No doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 4: Now, what can you tell us about under Dark Skies because it seems like I was reading something about that you went through a period of of some pretty intense personal upheaval. It was kind of the genesis of the emotional context of the album.

Speaker 5: Is that correct for sure? Yeah? I mean for me, you know, writing songs is always easier when you're in a sort of a down period. Yeah, And I've had my experience with that, but in twenty twenty three it was particularly bad, and you know, some really tough stuff going on.

Speaker 3: And.

Speaker 5: That led to a lot of the material and under Dark Skies.

Speaker 4: Something that comes up a lot on the show with people we talked to is how probably the best form of therapy is taking things that are bad, things that are traumatic, and then making that into art, because not only does it help you take something terribly negative and create something positive from it, because it helps you to create art, whether it be music or visual art or writing or whatever it is, but it also has the potential to help other people people because other people then can connect with that and it can help them as well.

Speaker 4: And then you've you've taken something negative and made something very positive out of it that not only helps you work through it and the process whatever it is you're going through, but can can connect with others. And I'm curious, have you experienced other people kind of reaching out to you when they hear the album and say, you know, I relate to this song, or I relate to the themes that are here or this this connects with me on a level that maybe I didn't expect, but then I listened to it and I got it, and I and I kind of know what you're feeling.

Speaker 4: Like, do do you hear from people about that? Oh?

Speaker 5: I definitely?

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 5: Yeah. I had one particular incidence where I wrote a song about super simple song about basically being on drugs during a period where I had had a relapse, and and the guy wrote in and said, I've never I've never done drugs, but after listening to your song, I completely understand the you know, the depths to which you might go or or the way he might feel, you know, And yeah, that was kind of interesting, you know, but yeah, definitely. You know, most of the music I listened to is a little sad or whatever you want to call it, and so I connect with that.

Speaker 5: You know, it makes me feel not so alone. And I think the same goes true with you know, some of the songs I write, right, So no doubt.

Speaker 4: Yeah, and can you tell us kind of circling back to Paul Button for a moment because the track we played it earlier, the single Alive and Well.

Speaker 6: Is that is it true that that's dedicated to Paul?

Speaker 8: Butten it is?

Speaker 5: It is It was written before he passed away, though it wasn't you know, written after that in relation to his passing. Yeah, but but yeah, it was one of his favorites and he plays on it. And you know, when we released it, I had a tough choice to make, right he had just passed away. The singles coming out in a couple of weeks, and I wrestle with, you know, do I want to release a single called the Live and Well after my guitar player has died, you know, and my friend and I decided to go ahead with it, you knowa dedicated to him because really the song is about coming through tough times and coming back right and and Paul had experienced that kind of process in his own life.

Speaker 5: Sure, so so we both had that in common.

Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And we should talk to about where this was recorded because and I always like to make sure we give credit to producers and engineers and whomever you work with. When I hear something that I think is really striking sonically, and and I really love the way. I mean, I enjoy the songs. I like what you're doing. I also really love I'm kind of a recording nerd, and I love the production. I think it's I think it's really good. And I feel too that this genre that you're working in the production has to be really good.

Speaker 4: You have to be able to create something epic. You know, you can't have guitars that sound small, and.

Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

Speaker 4: So, uhhere where did you record this? And who did you work with?

Speaker 5: We recorded a place called Kitt and Robots Studio, and we've been recording there since. Really our first record we mixed there and then everything else since then we've recorded there. And there's a a friend, a producer, Paul Rossler. I think the spelling's probably in the press kit, but you know, he's he's an LA fixture. He's been around since the late seventies. He played in a famous early LA sort of synth punk band called the Screamers, and since then he's been you know, in many other bands and and so we've been working together for you know this this ten years and he really gets what we want to do.

Speaker 5: We have a great working relationship and and we learned together, right and yeah, so you know, yeah.

Speaker 4: When you say you've worked with him for this ten years, does that mean every single thing that you've recorded for Tombstones, in their eyes, it's all been with him.

Speaker 5: Our first record we started off at a place locally, but when it came time to mix that record, I found Paul, so technically we recorded something elsewhere. But ever since then everything has been recorded there.

Speaker 4: Okay, Oh that's awesome. Yeah, obviously it's working for you. I'm also curious about this, So this is I don't usually see this, and maybe we're getting into the weeds, but we do have a lot of industry people who listen to the show who might also find this very interesting. So this is a dual label release, so it's out on Little Cloud Records here in North America, but it's also on a completely separate label, Shore Dive Records in the UK. And I'm curious about how that works and how that came about, and are there any challenges to effectively You've released this on two separate labels, which is very interesting to me.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish I'd discovered I could do that sooner. Actually, because we have fans in Europe and you know, around the world, but particularly in Europe, the UK, and so shipping over there is incredibly expensive these days shipping from the US.

Speaker 7: Ye.

Speaker 5: So, uh So what happened is that when we when we got with Little Cloud Records for this record, I noticed that one of their previous releases, one of the bands had done a similar thing. Actually, they do it quite regularly, I think, And so I had the idea, and I already knew U Nico from Short Drive Records, so I asked him. I asked Little Cloud if it was fine, and they're They're all fine with it. So, so what this does is, like I said, it gives me a chance, or it gives us a chance to get our stuff out to those fans over there without them having to pay a million dollars for shipping.

Speaker 4: Makes sense, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Have you had a chance to tour over there?

Speaker 5: No? No, Yeah, being being a little older and having quite a full life, and you know, same with the band, right you know, right now the band has seven people, So gathering those seven people and getting us all in a place where we could do that is pretty tough, right now.

Speaker 6: No doubt.

Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so so seven people, So that's interesting. I did notice that the picture that I saw too in the press release. So what I mean, what what do all these people? What do all these seven people do?

Speaker 7: Like?

Speaker 4: Do you do you have multiple guitars? I mean what can you just kind of take us through that what the lineup looks like in terms of of what everyone's doing in the band?

Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah, So myself I do vocals and guitar. We have a guitar player named Phil Cobb does yeah, and then we have a we had Paul Bouton who passed away, and now we have a John Miller who's going to be also you know, playing guitar. So that's me, two guitar players, a bass player named Nick, drummer named Steven, and then we have two other vocalists. One is Clia Cohen and the other is Courtney Davies. Okay, yeah, Courtney's been with us a little a little while and Clia is a little newer. But we started to get into harmony so much on the records that it made sense, you know, to try and do that live.

Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, has has that been some? Is that something that's unique to this record in terms of the harmonies or did you do that on.

Speaker 5: It's been starting to happen. It really came into bloom on the last record, Asylum Harbor, and has sort of continued.

Speaker 6: Okay, okay, just.

Speaker 5: Been a pro and an evolution.

Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, very cool. I want to ask you too.

Speaker 4: I want to make sure we touch on you know, so people don't get the wrong idea in terms of in terms of the album and the context. You know, it's not all it's not all doom and gloom, right, there's there's sort of a theme of defiance and overcoming these challenges and dare I say even hopefulness to it, right. I listened to the whole thing, and that's that's kind of what I took from it. It's you know, it's not just you know, because people hear, you know, doom rock or whatever term you want to use, and they think, oh, it's it's just all down, it's all negative, but it's really not.

Speaker 4: And and what do you want people to take away from this, you know, not just when they listen to say Alive and Well the single, but when they listen to the whole album. What do you want people to take away from from that? When they hear it.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear what you're saying for sure, and it is not all doom and gloom, right, And I want people to take away that you can make it through tough times, you can find strength and there is hope. And that was sort of you know, the place I was in. I can't believe I made it through at some at some points, right, And so the songs are they're not wallowing in self pity right there. There are like you said, sort of a defiant like I'm gonna make this happen, you know, I'm gonna make it.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got from it was the defiance and I really like that it connected with me. I think the album is fantastic. We should imagine too, how new it is too. This just came out December fifth, right, so this this just came out earlier this month, so it's very new and obviously it's on all the streaming services. And you did you get physical copies of this as well? Do you have physical copies?

Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's on vinyl, NCD. Vinyl can be you know, purchased through our band camp, can be purchased through Short Dived Records band camp in Europe and the UK and also on Little Cloud Records website, so it's available.

Speaker 4: Oh, fantastic, fantastic. Where is the best place to go?

Speaker 6: John?

Speaker 4: And for people to keep up with everything that you're doing with tombstones in their eyes? Where should people go online to keep up with everything?

Speaker 5: I would say these days, either Instagram. Probably Instagram would be the best place because I had some help with that and we're making sure the content is flowing there with news and other things. I handle the Facebook myself, so that's you know, there was a period where I was trying to manage every social media and I've had to concentrate on just a few. Yeah, you know, Yeah, i'd say Instagram is a good place to go.

Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent, excellent. In a moment, we'll let you go and then we're gonna play I want to close out the segment with another track from the album, under Dark Skies, but I'm gonna kind of put you on the spot a little bit. I'm gonna ask you to pick it because we already played we played a live and well and we played the title track under Dark Skies, you know, while we were kind of working through our tech issues. So what would you like us to play to close out the segment it.

Speaker 5: Wow, we might throw you a curve bamb play. Have you play an instrumental?

Speaker 6: Okay?

Speaker 5: Would that be okay?

Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, whatever you want.

Speaker 5: The song is called the Beginning.

Speaker 6: The Beginning.

Speaker 4: Oh yep, I see it excellent. So yeah, so we'll finish out with that. That'll be interesting.

Speaker 6: Okay.

Speaker 4: Well, John, thank you so much for joining us here today. Like I said, I love the album. I'm going to go back to and listen to some of your earlier work as well. So far, I've only listened to Under Dark Skies, but i really enjoyed it a lot. And I'm glad that we were able to work through our tech issues and get you on the phone. And it's been interesting talking to you and I'm sure we will definitely do it again in the future.

Speaker 6: As you're are you already working on new music? You are?

Speaker 4: You just kind of focused on the current project right now now that this has just come out.

Speaker 5: There's always stuff in the works. I mean, we have a lot a big backlog of songs that have recorded over the last couple of years.

Speaker 7: Yea.

Speaker 5: At the same time, yeah, I'm kind of focusing on this right now and trying to yeah, you know live.

Speaker 6: Oh of course, yeah.

Speaker 4: Well we will definitely have you back in the future as when you do have new stuff, because like I said, I've become a fast fan of your work. We're gonna hit this track, so we'll let you go for now. But John from Tombstones in Their Eyes, thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm sorry for the second Oh hey.

Speaker 4: No worries, We got through it all right, all right, John, take care of bye bye all right. That was John Treeener from Tombstones in Their Eyes and we will close out this segment with this. This is an instrumental from the album Under Dark Skies. This is called the Beginning.

Speaker 4: That's heavy. That is called the Beginning. The band is Tombstones in Their Eyes and thank you again to John Treeener for joining us. Thank you to everyone who joined us today. Of course, in the first hour we had Lewis Taylor from the band The Painting, and then in the second hour we had Mike Hill along with Terry and Lloyd from Charlie Hill with us and it was great talking. In the third hour with John Treener from Tombstones in Their Eyes really really liked that project. If you are just joining us, we are live, of course on Saturday, December twentieth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Just go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact and fosshow archives, etc.

Speaker 6: Etc.

Speaker 4: I talked about it at the very beginning in the first hour of today's show, and I'll just kind of circle back to it. I do want to anyone who missed it. I want to just publicly thank everybody for their kind words and love and support.

Speaker 6: This week.

Speaker 4: My father passed away on Thursday, Martin Connorton. Some of you knew him, became familiar with him through the show back when we used to do weekday afternoons. He was a regular caller, so a lot of you heard his voice. Some of you became familiar with him on social media, but you know he did. He did loom large in our little radio universe here. As I like to say, so uh, you know, thank you everyone who's reached out. He as I said earlier, he had a tough battle. It lasted for almost two months at mass General in Boston, and you know, if anyone could have saved him, they could have because that's one of the best hospitals with one of the best cardiac units in the entire country.

Speaker 4: So if they couldn't couldn't save him, then then no one could. So that, you know, there is some some solace in that, but but it hurts. It's painful. I am planning to do I'm gonna outside of this show, I'm going to do a separate podcast about my dad at some point where I really just have the time and the space to just say everything that I want to say about him and and you know, and and how he influenced me in my life. And but I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that separate from the show. I'm going to do that on the podcast version, just so because that way I don't have the pressure of Okay, on on this day, on this particular Saturday morning, in this segment, I'm going to talk about my dad.

Speaker 4: I don't I want to be able to just do it when I'm ready to do it. And I don't know when I'm going to be ready to do it because I'm not ready to do it yet. But but but it's coming, it's coming. I do want to do that. I want to honor him with that, and I want to you know, and maybe I can share some things about him that my surprise some listeners. I'm sure that listeners who knew my dad became familiar with him might find it interesting to hear some some childhood stories and that kind of thing. So so there's a lot, there's a lot there.

Speaker 4: There's a lot to say. He was a very interesting guy, a very complicated guy in some ways. Our relationship was complicated in some ways. But you know, but it hurts, it's it's hard, and so I I do appreciate, I do appreciate everyone who's reached out and just you know, keep your eyes and ears open for the podcast version of the show. Like I said, could be a week, it could be a couple of weeks, it could be this weekend.

Speaker 6: I don't know when I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm gonna do it when I'm ready, and uh, well I'm sure I'm ready because once I turned that microphone on and start going that's you know, that's that's it. I'm committed. So but uh so, I do appreciate all of you. I think what we're gonna do. So earlier in the show, it was in the first hour, I played a song that I played, Tears Are Falling by Kiss, and I played that because I told the story of how my dad was the one who got me into, uh really into heavily listening to Kiss and he also I remember another band that he and I really bonded over was Van Halen when I was a kid.

Speaker 4: And again I'm kind of showing my age here, but I have another very nice memory of my father from when I was a kid, so we had borrowed again. This was during the van the Van Hagar era as some people like to call it. Fifty one fifty had come out, which is my to this day, my favorite Van Halen album, and it was the first album with Sammy Hagar on lead vocals, and that was another album that both my dad and I just loved and we would listen to all the time. And I have a particular memory of on video Van Halen had released.

Speaker 4: It was called Live without a net, and it was from a show on the fifty one fifty tour when they played in New Haven, Connecticut, and so I'd borrowed that. I'd borrowed the video of that from a friend, and it was that weekend that i'd borrowed it. It was a Sunday night, and Dad and I sat and we watched the entire thing, the whole two hour concert on video, and we both really enjoyed it. And Dad was so into it that at the end of it, he said to me, now it was getting to be my bedtime. And something Dad was a little strict about, probably more than he needed to be.

Speaker 4: Not to critique him, but I always I thought this at the time, and even in hindsight, I still think he was a little bit strict about making sure on school nights I was in bed at an early enough time, just but he would make exceptions. And he made an exception that night because we got to the end of watching the video and it was definitely time for bed, and he said to me,

Speaker 4: because he liked it so much, he said, you know what, we should watch, like the first couple of songs again. We should start it over and just watch the first couple of songs and then and then you can go to bed. And I was like, okay, So we started it over. And here's the thing I knew, because even though he was a little bit strict about the bedtime, he did make exceptions.

Speaker 6: I knew.

Speaker 4: Once he committed to that, we'll watch a couple, We'll watch the first couple. I thought, Oh, I'm staying up for another two hours because yeah, he's saying that, right, We'll just watch the first couple of songs again and then you can go to bed. But he's not going to enforce that, you know, because I knew my dad well enough, you know, and that's something every you know, all kids, I think, kind of learned that with their parents. You know, what they say or or it doesn't always necessarily match up with what they're actually going to enforce.

Speaker 4: Because my dad overall was not super strict, you know. He I mean, I was an easy kid anyway, because I wasn't getting into trouble all the time or anything like that to begin with. So it's not like he had to be the strict disciplinarian with me to begin with. But but you know, but he wasn't, you know, he wasn't like super strict or anything, so I knew. I remember thinking, oh, he's gonna let me stay up the whole two hours. He's gonna let me stay up two hours past my bedtime because he's gonna want to watch the whole thing over again.

Speaker 4: And he's not gonna want to send me to bed while he stays up and watches the rest of it, because that's not cool.

Speaker 6: Uh.

Speaker 4: I've got him. He's gonna let me, He's And that's exactly what happened. I stayed up for another two hours, two hours passed my bedtime on a school night, and we watched the entire thing a second time. And that's just a really uh And I was fine the next day. I wasn't tired or anything. But but that's just a childhood memory that has stuck with me. So I think what I would like to do now is I would like to play my dad's favorite song from the album fifty one to fifty. It's actually the title track from the album, and we would listen to it in the car and I remember my dad was just like, this is such a great song.

Speaker 4: So I think what we'll do is I'm gonna play that now. And then I think I'm gonna place maybe we'll have time to play a couple other songs that I know that my dad really loved.

Speaker 6: I think we should do that.

Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be the end of me speaking on today's show, though, I think I'm gonna play this, and then I'm just gonna go ahead and play some other songs that my dad really loved that I know connected with him, songs that he and I both loved.

Speaker 6: I think that would be a good way to finish out the hour.

Speaker 4: If you miss any part of today's show, you know the drill, It'll be up in just a little bit at wm and a radio dot orgon at my website Matt Connorton dot com. And I think that's gonna do it for me as far as what I have to say this week. But thanks everyone again who joined us, and I will I'm gonna play this here it is. This is the title track from Van Halen's album fifty one fifty.

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