Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-21-24 hour 3
Game Plan
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Speaker 6: That is run Roudolph Run. And that is a brand
Speaker 6: new from Neon Gypsy, their rendition of that track, which
Speaker 6: we had Neon Gypsy here with us in the first
Speaker 6: hour today on the program, and then we had the
Speaker 6: Healer Mike McDowell for the second hour, and we've got
Speaker 6: Cody Pope and Byron g coming up for the third
Speaker 6: hour and they're going to perform live again. So always
Speaker 6: love that. By the way, I want to remind everybody,
Speaker 6: of course, because today is if you are listening live,
Speaker 6: December twenty first, twenty twenty four, this afternoon, we have
Speaker 6: the holiday market and psychic event that is being put
Speaker 6: on by our wonderful friends at the Sister Witch Company.
Speaker 6: Jenny is there right now, which is why she's not here.
Speaker 6: She is there getting set up and she's going to
Speaker 6: be selling her wonderful Macroma creations and there's going to
Speaker 6: be a lot of local artisans there, local small businesses participating.
Speaker 6: So if you've got some holiday shopping to do, please
Speaker 6: come down. It's at the Masonic Temple at fifteen oh
Speaker 6: five Elm Street. And as I like to say, Walmart
Speaker 6: and Target do not need any more of your money.
Speaker 6: Please support your local businesses and it really does mean
Speaker 6: so much. And if you want more information you can
Speaker 6: go to Sisterwitch Company dot com. But that starts at noon.
Speaker 6: That is where I will be headed after the show
Speaker 6: today noon to five pm the Holiday market and a
Speaker 6: psychic event at the Manchester Masonic Temple fifteen oh five
Speaker 6: Elm Street. And let me bring these mics up and
Speaker 6: we've got Cody Pope and Byron g here with us
Speaker 6: in the studio.
Speaker 7: Hey guys, Hey, good morning man, thanks so much for
Speaker 7: having us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, welcome back, welcome back, And hope you weren't waiting
Speaker 6: outside too long. It's a little chilly today.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, it was perfect timing.
Speaker 5: Hey, hat a justice.
Speaker 6: Camera here, Get you guys in the shot. Of course
Speaker 6: we are on Facebook and YouTube and all that stuff.
Speaker 6: There we go, there we go. How have you guys
Speaker 6: been what's going on? Have you been releasing new music
Speaker 6: or what have you been up to?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so in October we just released our our sophomore
Speaker 7: full length album, Giant Steps in Gates City, excellent. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so that spent We did a big release show for that,
Speaker 7: and it's been a pretty wild ride since then.
Speaker 6: Where did you Where'd you do the release show?
Speaker 7: So we did it in our hometown in Nashaua. We
Speaker 7: like rented a hall and put together this whole experience.
Speaker 7: We had a caterer come in and like cater the event,
Speaker 7: and had a photo booth and had a bunch of
Speaker 7: the artists from hell Hound open up the night. It
Speaker 7: was really cool.
Speaker 6: Nice, nice. Yeah, you guys must know. Do you know
Speaker 6: Mike McDowell the Healer? Did you run into him on.
Speaker 7: This We literally just shook hands and met as we
Speaker 7: were heading out as we were coming in. Yeah, looking
Speaker 7: forward to chopping it up with him more.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's doing some he's doing some great stuff. And
Speaker 6: you must know Eleanor and Andre from So.
Speaker 7: I actually just met them super recently as well. Yeah,
Speaker 7: like maybe a week ago or so. I just got
Speaker 7: to go to New Hampshire Underground and hang out with
Speaker 7: them for a bit. They're awesome people.
Speaker 6: Oh, excellent, excellent. I don't think they've done like a
Speaker 6: full hip hop show. I mean, obviously six Minds combined, Yeah,
Speaker 6: performs there but yeah, they should do uh, you should
Speaker 6: do something with them, like do a big hip hop show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we're hoping to do something. We're hoping
Speaker 7: the dates will align in that we can make something
Speaker 7: happen soon.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I really like their space. I think that it's really
Speaker 7: conducive to fostering a positive like live music and arts scene,
Speaker 7: and they offer resources and spaces for people that I
Speaker 7: think are really valuable. So I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 7: what they're capable of doing with that. I think that's
Speaker 7: gonna be awesome.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, Well I'm dying to hear you guys. You
Speaker 6: always perform when you come on the show, which is wonderful.
Speaker 6: And now the real test, of course is always making
Speaker 6: sure that what have you got? What do you what
Speaker 6: do you call that? Byron?
Speaker 5: This is the Roland SP four O four m K two.
Speaker 6: Okay, and what does that do for the For the uninitiated.
Speaker 9: It does a little bit of everything. It's a sampler,
Speaker 9: so you could create like full songs on here.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I use it mainly for our live shows and stuff
Speaker 9: like that, so I can load up pads and I
Speaker 9: can manipulate the sound.
Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of live as we're going so okay, you.
Speaker 9: Never really get the same experience twice with these types
Speaker 9: of machines.
Speaker 6: Right right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: For those listening live, if you're wondering how these guys
Speaker 6: are going to perform live, that's what let's see if
Speaker 6: let's see if we can hear that. And I'm not
Speaker 6: hearing anything yet, but I think I know why. Oh
Speaker 6: there we go fucking easy. Yeah. This is always the
Speaker 6: that's always the moment, right when when you guys come on,
Speaker 6: it's like, let's let's hope this last.
Speaker 1: This works well.
Speaker 6: The first time you came on, we did the Yeah,
Speaker 6: we did the flash drive option the very first time
Speaker 6: in the old station, and.
Speaker 7: That was our first album together too.
Speaker 6: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah. How many times have you
Speaker 6: guys been?
Speaker 7: Is this this is our third time?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 7: No, it's not your fourth.
Speaker 5: No, I think you've been up here before.
Speaker 7: We had done stuff up in Laconia. Oh okay, maybe
Speaker 7: that's we did local outbreak up in Laconi.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm thinking that, yeah, both of us.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, because we did our first album was Meet
Speaker 7: Me and Gates City, so we played some of those
Speaker 7: songs and then the next time was we released an
Speaker 7: ep called Pound of Wait No Renaissance Park. I think
Speaker 7: it was the Renaissance Park. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys have released a lot of music.
Speaker 7: It's hard to Yeah, yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 6: Well, do you want to perform something?
Speaker 7: Or yeah? All right we have you have No Sugar
Speaker 7: Added A good way to warm up. This is the
Speaker 7: h This was the first single that we released from
Speaker 7: the new album. Okay, it's the second track. It's called
Speaker 7: No Sugar Added.
Speaker 6: Okay, check check.
Speaker 7: I've been in a days. Mine's amazing a blaze. I've
Speaker 7: been catching fighter since before the twelfth grade. I had
Speaker 7: this design you for couldn't getting out my way. Now
Speaker 7: I'm double the age, still rewinded the days. Can't believe
Speaker 7: what all I's done. I'm still looking back, been cleaning
Speaker 7: up because still remember the cooking crap. The strength that
Speaker 7: had for the needle, never quite took it back. Some
Speaker 7: days I still find that I'm quite shook. In fact,
Speaker 7: the light keeps going out. Maybe that's a sign for me.
Speaker 7: I have accepted that one day will be time for
Speaker 7: me someone's revenge. I suppose that it's fine with me.
Speaker 7: Nothing in life off didn't happen with the time and
Speaker 7: sweet all I can do. Work to build a good now,
Speaker 7: and then stay in the sun to makeup of days
Speaker 7: the shrouded in dens, I am the howling man standing
Speaker 7: upon the howland winds, night of the hunt of the preacher,
Speaker 7: upon the prowl. Again not perfect, not even close to
Speaker 7: all right. I can't remember the last time I slept
Speaker 7: all night, eyes wide open. But I need another hour.
Speaker 7: I just fell asleep already. Time for the shower. No sugar,
Speaker 7: no sugar. I just need water, meant the lea I
Speaker 7: can pad.
Speaker 5: No sugar added, no sugar added.
Speaker 7: Somewhere between apocalypse now anxiety and alarms again, hope my
Speaker 7: horrible ways could never harm a friend. Some men crossed
Speaker 7: me again, never saw him again, even the he the
Speaker 7: Nord demon can fall from a sin who called it again?
Speaker 7: I'm not sorry to them. Drowning in my own flood,
Speaker 7: I hardly can swim. Then I stopped too late. How
Speaker 7: could I be so selfish do the stupidest things, but
Speaker 7: know that I'm not helpless? Bad patterns, habits I need
Speaker 7: to learn to break. I'm mad scattered this matter. If
Speaker 7: I need to learn to shake, we'll extinguish over light
Speaker 7: the match to burn the lake, every roll of the dice,
Speaker 7: the one determined faith, slipping into the void for just
Speaker 7: a few hours to win my best to not flip.
Speaker 7: I got no new flower. My dreamscape is the place
Speaker 7: that I do scout in search of advances, like how
Speaker 7: I could bet the US power? Not perfect, not even
Speaker 7: close to all right, can't remember the last time I
Speaker 7: slept all night. I was wide open. But I need
Speaker 7: another hour. I just fell asleep already. Time for the shaft.
Speaker 7: No sugar added, no sugar added. I just need water,
Speaker 7: meant to leave, I get padded, no sugar added, no
Speaker 7: sugar added. Somewhere between being happy and mad and.
Speaker 6: I love it. I love it. Thank you Cody Pope
Speaker 6: and Ryron g Here whatever live in studio on this
Speaker 6: Saturday morning.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't hear everybody. At first. I was like,
Speaker 7: oh crap, what's going on?
Speaker 6: You made it work, You made it work.
Speaker 7: Volumes a magical thing.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Now tell us about you know. For people
Speaker 6: who are not familiar, so because you refer to it
Speaker 6: Hellhound Publishing, Yeah, what is that exactly? For people who
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 7: So, Hellhound Publishing is a record label that I founded
Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen and that Byron now co owns with me,
Speaker 7: and so that is essentially our creative house where we
Speaker 7: not only do we distribute in all of our music,
Speaker 7: but we've been fortunate to sign and release music for
Speaker 7: some artists that we're really close with as well. Okay,
Speaker 7: we do music, we do some books, and we do podcasts.
Speaker 7: Those are really like our big things right now.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, and yeah, you've talked about that on the
Speaker 6: show before. Has that kind of has that kind of
Speaker 6: grown in terms of who you're working with, Like you
Speaker 6: have more artists that you're that you're working with or
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't remember who we because I think
Speaker 6: the I think the first time you talked about it
Speaker 6: on the show, you had just kind of started that
Speaker 6: or you had started working together on that.
Speaker 7: I think, Yeah, I think what when we came on
Speaker 7: and put out Meet Me in gate City, we had
Speaker 7: only released a few records at that point, and now
Speaker 7: with Giant Steps in gate City, it's our fifteenth release
Speaker 7: on the record label.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, Yeah, okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel very fortunate to say that after all this time.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's been quite the wild ride.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, know, Wow, so who now, who else
Speaker 6: are you working with currently were you releasing music?
Speaker 7: So our roster that's active right now consists of mostly producers,
Speaker 7: but so they go out and perform a lot of
Speaker 7: instrumental shows and we have instrumental albums out for them
Speaker 7: as well. So we represent even Though, who is originally
Speaker 7: from Nashua but is now based out of the Worcester area.
Speaker 7: He has like this very like ethereal lo fi kind
Speaker 7: of sound, but then because he comes from like a
Speaker 7: boom back background, there's like a really cool blend of
Speaker 7: like an almost ambient boombap kind of sound. We represent
Speaker 7: an artist named Tripsey who's based out of Boston, Massachusetts area.
Speaker 7: He has a very electronic heavy sound. I like to
Speaker 7: compare him to like an Aphex Twin or a fat
Speaker 7: Boy Slim something along like very like high energy like
Speaker 7: party music. We also represent eight Biza as well. I
Speaker 7: know you know Biza. He has obviously been a long
Speaker 7: time contributor to the label and to my music as well,
Speaker 7: and so he's always yeah, yeah, he's always been a
Speaker 7: big part of the equation as well. And that is
Speaker 7: that's really the core of like artists that we have
Speaker 7: releases coming out for okay, but for twenty five where
Speaker 7: we're hoping to kind of expand the palette a little more. Yeah,
Speaker 7: we've kind of changed the way that we operate as
Speaker 7: a label a bit, and we've also like we've moved
Speaker 7: our headquarters. We had been in the same place for
Speaker 7: over ten years. Wow, So now we just moved into
Speaker 7: a new place and that's really evolved how we can
Speaker 7: operate as a label and a lot of capacities. So
Speaker 7: we may not have as many releases coming out in
Speaker 7: twenty five, but we fortunately have like really big plans
Speaker 7: and a lot more resources to apply to them now,
Speaker 7: which is exciting.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, very good. Now, why why the when
Speaker 6: you when you talk about the changes in terms of
Speaker 6: how you do things, is that is that something that
Speaker 6: does that come from kind of learning as you go
Speaker 6: or or does some of it I'm curious if some
Speaker 6: of it has to do too with you know, the
Speaker 6: music business is constantly changing and you know now and
Speaker 6: I don't think we've ever really talked about this aspect before,
Speaker 6: but now AI is kind of really changing things. I mean,
Speaker 6: does does that play a role?
Speaker 7: I would say, and you might have a different experience
Speaker 7: to speak to it for me as like a label owner.
Speaker 7: I always sought to be the person that I thought
Speaker 7: I would have wanted to have around as an artist,
Speaker 7: But I learned that I wasn't being the person that
Speaker 7: the artist needed, and that those are two separate things
Speaker 7: where you could want more than you actually need, and
Speaker 7: so not everybody's wants parallel, and so I had to
Speaker 7: learn how to manage the artists better on the release
Speaker 7: side of things, because with some of the early releases
Speaker 7: we put out on the label, we were very We
Speaker 7: were very involved in the record terms of like being
Speaker 7: in weekly meetings, trying to make plans, and some of
Speaker 7: the artists we were literally tracking all their music in
Speaker 7: our free time and doing the artwork for I've done
Speaker 7: the artwork for most of the releases on the label
Speaker 7: a lot of so we were like super involved, which
Speaker 7: feels good. But I think what we learned is that
Speaker 7: artists need to kind of finish the idea on their
Speaker 7: own and then kind of like be like, you know,
Speaker 7: we were trying to build things out of scratch with
Speaker 7: an artist, and really the artist has to kind of
Speaker 7: have that idea and figure out what they would do
Speaker 7: even if we weren't in the picture and if they
Speaker 7: were going to do that anyways, that's where we can
Speaker 7: be of the most service to them. But as artists,
Speaker 7: we have certain expectations for ourselves, and so it's not
Speaker 7: fair to apply those expectations to everybody unilaterally. Every artist
Speaker 7: requires a specific kind of like catered two means of
Speaker 7: getting their thing done, and if we love the art enough,
Speaker 7: we're going to work on on how to be that
Speaker 7: to each artist and still maintain the integrity of what
Speaker 7: we're trying to do personally.
Speaker 6: That makes sense because everyone's process is different.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now, now what about AI in terms of like, uh,
Speaker 6: like releasing music? Do you have to? Does it get
Speaker 6: complicated now?
Speaker 8: With UH?
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's incredible what's going on, Like I
Speaker 6: I see uh, you know, like major labels are suing
Speaker 6: AI companies and there's all this there's all this mess,
Speaker 6: like do you have to does it become a consideration
Speaker 6: when releasing music? Like is there an AI sample or
Speaker 6: something in here? Is there something that is going to
Speaker 6: cause us a problem down the road? And are there
Speaker 6: headaches that come with that?
Speaker 9: So it's I think personally, there's there's good and there's
Speaker 9: bad for for the sample based producers that like to
Speaker 9: dig in you know, old records of like old crates
Speaker 9: of records and things like that, which I am one
Speaker 9: of them. It makes it a little bit harder to
Speaker 9: kind of chop and and when it comes to release time,
Speaker 9: if you have samples on your beats, you kind of
Speaker 9: it's it's different now. It's definitely AI is picking up
Speaker 9: on a lot of that stuff. Doesn't mean that there's
Speaker 9: a place for it, because there definitely still is and
Speaker 9: a lot of you know, Snoop and dre are releasing.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's probably a little bit different because they
Speaker 9: have the actual stems from the artists, but.
Speaker 5: There's different avenues where you could go for that type
Speaker 5: of stuff now.
Speaker 9: But on the other side of things, I've been using
Speaker 9: AI to generate uh hord progressions and and different sounds
Speaker 9: and stuff like that, and i've you know.
Speaker 6: You cant firing. Can you pull that, Michael a little bit?
Speaker 6: Just yeah, just I noticed it was just dropping out.
Speaker 6: Yeah it is, that's better. Yeah, thank you, it's just
Speaker 6: it it starts to sorry about that, want to make
Speaker 6: sure we can hear you. I'm sorry, good, Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 5: On the other other side of things.
Speaker 9: I've been using AI to generate melodies and chords and
Speaker 9: picking my keys and blending and mashing a bunch of
Speaker 9: like AI generated stuff and basically using them as my
Speaker 9: samples as of late.
Speaker 5: Chopping it up that way, okay, and doing it that way.
Speaker 9: It's all like you're you're the creator, so there's no
Speaker 9: royalties or there's no copyright infringement cases that you run
Speaker 9: into doing it that way, and it's different. There's a
Speaker 9: million different possibilities. And I'm the type of guy it's like,
Speaker 9: as we evolve, as you know, producers and just musicians,
Speaker 9: if you're not using all of the elements that are
Speaker 9: at your hands these days, you're gonna fall behind. So
Speaker 9: there's good and there's bad. It's just all about how.
Speaker 5: You look at it. I think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, adaptability is so important absolutely, and yeah, adapting technologies. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody about that in terms of
Speaker 6: doing a like a radio show. You know, like there
Speaker 6: was a time when a radio show would just be
Speaker 6: on the radio, but we've had to adapt to you
Speaker 6: know now you know, podcasting and streaming and all of that,
Speaker 6: and and if you don't if you don't do that, yeah,
Speaker 6: if you don't adapt, you fall behind.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I would never like take someone's voice right
Speaker 9: and have them say specifically rics like I wouldn't use
Speaker 9: AI or anything like that. Yeah, But in terms of
Speaker 9: like creating, I'm definitely messing around with AI.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it comes to creating melodies and stuff like that. Sure.
Speaker 7: Sure, So I think the thing that's important with AI,
Speaker 7: and that's why I'm glad you spoke on it because
Speaker 7: you have more experience with it. I don't. But I
Speaker 7: just from like a outside looking in perspective kind of thing,
Speaker 7: I feel like there's a lot of fear around AI
Speaker 7: taking on creative tasks and things of that nature. And
Speaker 7: I think the the ultimate responsibility or obligation is that like,
Speaker 7: if we don't determine how AI is going to be used,
Speaker 7: other things are going to determine that for us. And
Speaker 7: so it's like, rather than being afraid of AI and
Speaker 7: being so against it, figure out how to implement it
Speaker 7: into your life in the ways it that you want.
Speaker 7: You know, It's like, Yeah, my conversations with most people
Speaker 7: is that it's like you want AI to take care
Speaker 7: of menial tasks and things that are time consuming and
Speaker 7: take away from you, like living your most life. So
Speaker 7: it's like if we sit back and wait for AI
Speaker 7: to become what it is, it's going to take the
Speaker 7: things we love instead, because nobody like stepped in and
Speaker 7: said like no, I want to do this part, like
Speaker 7: do this task for me instead. And I don't have
Speaker 7: any experience using it, So that's why it's like hard
Speaker 7: for me to really like put my foot down one
Speaker 7: way or another. But I just feel like we have
Speaker 7: to kind of like we are the users of AI,
Speaker 7: so we have to dictate what purpose it's going to
Speaker 7: serve to us before it becomes consequential.
Speaker 6: Got to be proactive with it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, I think like for independent artists,
Speaker 9: it definitely can be like an attribute to you because
Speaker 9: as an independent artist, you have to you have to
Speaker 9: wear so many hats, right, whether it's creating artwork or
Speaker 9: whether it's you know, coming up with videos or whatever,
Speaker 9: and AI can be a huge help for that stuff
Speaker 9: if you're not specifically like a drawing artist to make
Speaker 9: up your own artwork whatever it is, right, Yeah, definitely
Speaker 9: use AI to help you out on that side of
Speaker 9: things too.
Speaker 7: And even just like like task stuff, I would think
Speaker 7: more so you know, like as somebody who makes artwork,
Speaker 7: it's like, I like, I like that side of things.
Speaker 7: But I'm sure even as like maybe an engineer or
Speaker 7: like a radio show producer, there's certain like engineering things
Speaker 7: where it's like I wish this, I wish my mixer
Speaker 7: just always set to these levels, or I wish my
Speaker 7: fader just always went to this thing, or I wish
Speaker 7: my preset always went you know, these are kind of
Speaker 7: the initial These are things that like a I could
Speaker 7: probably do for us is like set these kind of
Speaker 7: prerequisite things so that when we go to use our
Speaker 7: creative tools, they're like in the right settings or whatever.
Speaker 9: Yeah, everything else as long as you put the time
Speaker 9: behind to learn the things you know, and you can
Speaker 9: manipulate anything in your favor. Yeah, you know, as long
Speaker 9: as you put the time in and effort to figure
Speaker 9: it out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, I agree. Well said you guys
Speaker 6: want to play another one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you think? Maybe gratitude?
Speaker 6: Sure, if you're just joining us. We have Cody Pope
Speaker 6: and Byron g here with us live in studio. Let
Speaker 6: me get that. Uh, there we go.
Speaker 5: I gotta find this joint.
Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.
Speaker 7: I hate that I'm sad, but my love monks feel
Speaker 7: so glad that he's a lead tripping Don't know, Vie,
Speaker 7: I'm so mad man, got a lot to be gratefulfore,
Speaker 7: You've awn I'm down, bad man.
Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.
Speaker 1: I hate that I'm sad, but my love monks feel
Speaker 1: so glad that he's a lead tripping Don't know why.
Speaker 7: I'm so mad man, got a lot to be grateful for.
Speaker 1: You've awen. I'm damn bad man.
Speaker 7: Wake up in my brain already feeling dark. Get the couch, already,
Speaker 7: chase a spot, contemplating in my sick or unhealthy. It's
Speaker 7: this depression of calma for unwealthy enough Cleverty to know
Speaker 7: that I'm the end of me, the one destroying me,
Speaker 7: the one should be defending me. Gotta take time enough
Speaker 7: to know you can't make time, So make mind feel
Speaker 7: with the things that shape live. What you heard on
Speaker 7: the great vine might not taste right, so you don't
Speaker 7: gotta make wine. You'll still make life. Plant that seed
Speaker 7: that gone well in your family with the real money tree,
Speaker 7: life's optical standing fees. Still days I'm fighting to guest trooper.
Speaker 7: But I survived when not for me, my trooper, when
Speaker 7: the fight come at the door, you can't be true.
Speaker 7: You missed that chance. Might well.
Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.
Speaker 7: I hate that I'm sad, but my loved ones feel
Speaker 7: so glad man.
Speaker 1: He's the lead tripping. Don't know why, I'm so mad man.
Speaker 7: Got a lot to be grateful for even when I'm down,
Speaker 7: bad man.
Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it,
Speaker 1: And I hate that I'm sad, but on the loved
Speaker 1: ones feel so bad man.
Speaker 7: He's the lead tripping Don't no, Bob, I'm so mad man.
Speaker 7: You got a lot to be grateful for, even when
Speaker 7: I'm down bad man. Some days I wake up.
Speaker 4: Wake up.
Speaker 6: Mmm, good stuff, guys, good stuff.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 6: If you're just joining us, we have Cody Pope and
Speaker 6: Byron g here with us live in studio and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: I love that track and it's it's very relatable.
Speaker 7: I Uh I have those days, right, That's the thing,
Speaker 7: you know, I feel like most of us do. And yeah,
Speaker 7: when we're in those moments, you kind of feel like
Speaker 7: you're the only person and it's like, man, how is
Speaker 7: like the world really like crashing down on me. But
Speaker 7: when you realize how many people in your life have
Speaker 7: made it to that next day, it's like, all right,
Speaker 7: let me let me just try and like for a minute, yeah,
Speaker 7: and stop thinking about what's weighing on me and like
Speaker 7: figure out what's like lifting me instead.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, no, I like that a lot. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm pretty public about it. I struggle with depression, and
Speaker 6: so I can I can relate to that, you know.
Speaker 6: I hear those lyrics and it's like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 6: get it. I get it.
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 6: Are you so the new album it just came out.
Speaker 7: It came out in October.
Speaker 6: Came out in October, so pretty recent.
Speaker 5: Yeah are you?
Speaker 6: Are you already working on the next one? It seems
Speaker 6: like you guys are pretty prolific. You put out a
Speaker 6: lot of music.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So we have a lot of stuff in the
Speaker 7: vault right now, and we definitely have some releases planned
Speaker 7: for next year. But we're gonna, honestly spend a lot
Speaker 7: of time with this record. We've been working on visuals
Speaker 7: for it. So we do these seminars called inside the Music.
Speaker 7: We do them at Nashville Public Library, and oh yeah,
Speaker 7: we take songs from our records and kind of break
Speaker 7: down the lyrics and the stories and the Ryan patterns,
Speaker 7: the references, and he'll break down the stems of how
Speaker 7: the song composed. And we put one together for Giant Steps,
Speaker 7: and we didn't get to do it in time for
Speaker 7: the release. So that's gonna be one of the things
Speaker 7: that we do this spring is Return of the Library seminar,
Speaker 7: and so we really just want to give people time
Speaker 7: to take this record in. It's eighteen songs, and we
Speaker 7: have a documentary coming out for it on Monday, which
Speaker 7: really covers like from when we did meet Me in
Speaker 7: Gates City to where we're at now. And so there
Speaker 7: was like a lot of like obstacles along the way
Speaker 7: of getting the album out, and so because it took
Speaker 7: us so long to get here, we're really hoping that
Speaker 7: we can afford to take time with this record over
Speaker 7: next year because there's a lot to take in. You know,
Speaker 7: it's eighteen songs. It's a very like in depth personal record.
Speaker 7: It's the essentially like the follow up to you know,
Speaker 7: the first record that we did Meet Me in Gate
Speaker 7: City was shortly after we met as Peple, you know,
Speaker 7: and like we met and within a year and some change,
Speaker 7: we had a full length album out and had been
Speaker 7: playing all over the region and running this label together,
Speaker 7: and so so much has happened in that time, and
Speaker 7: we've learned a lot. We've both gone through so much
Speaker 7: in our personal lives, and so the album is really
Speaker 7: a document of so much of that that it's hard
Speaker 7: to like move on to the next thing already. Where
Speaker 7: like we have, like we have an EP that we
Speaker 7: had already recorded. I have a actually I have a
Speaker 7: project with Biza that we're hoping to put out next year.
Speaker 7: Cool I have a live band record that him that
Speaker 7: he's helped me engineer that we've been working on for
Speaker 7: a couple of years. We worked some great artists from Maine.
Speaker 7: So we have stuff that we're hoping to put out
Speaker 7: next year. But it just is, ah, everything's kind of
Speaker 7: happening on a feeling now where we did so much
Speaker 7: stuff on setting deadlines that we thought fit within our
Speaker 7: market place, and our audience has really shown us that
Speaker 7: we can dictate our own marketplace, and the best way
Speaker 7: to do that is to not compromise the integrity of
Speaker 7: these records. And so we're really hoping and frankly you know,
Speaker 7: just to be like honest about it. The record is
Speaker 7: doing very well in regards to reception. People that hear
Speaker 7: it loved the record. People have been buying the CDs,
Speaker 7: which is great. The show was fantastic, But in terms
Speaker 7: of like the typical benchmarks that you're trying to reach
Speaker 7: in audience growth and stuff like that, we're just not
Speaker 7: there yet. Yeah, We're a long ways away from being
Speaker 7: where we're at comfortably in growing our audience, and so
Speaker 7: it seems like it would be detrimental of us to
Speaker 7: move on from this record too fast when there's so
Speaker 7: much substance there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 9: We also went to a legit studio this time around
Speaker 9: two oh before we were it was all in house
Speaker 9: like doing all the engineering, mixing, mastering.
Speaker 5: All that stuff.
Speaker 9: This time, due to you know, time and our mental
Speaker 9: capacities with work and stuff like that, it just wasn't
Speaker 9: gonna come out the way we wanted it to. So
Speaker 9: we made the decision to bring in Mertz, who Cody
Speaker 9: had previously worked with who's uh engineered down at the
Speaker 9: Bridge in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and he was kind of like
Speaker 9: the third member of the team to help us put
Speaker 9: this one together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he absolutely crushed it, blew it out the
Speaker 5: like hit it right out the park.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 5: The synergy between the three of us was fantastic.
Speaker 9: Every time we were down in his studio, we recorded
Speaker 9: the whole thing down there, and he was like a
Speaker 9: huge part of this record.
Speaker 5: So sonically it's definitely like our best sounding record.
Speaker 7: Too, Okay, it really it allowed us to be like
Speaker 7: it allowed us to operate as a duo as artists
Speaker 7: where doing meet being gate City. Even though we were
Speaker 7: a duo, he had to be the Rick Rubin and
Speaker 7: like run the boards and make sure that I was
Speaker 7: doing what I needed to do. And and so this
Speaker 7: time was like we both just got to be the
Speaker 7: artists and have our vision be brought to life. And
Speaker 7: so I'm glad that you brought that up because I
Speaker 7: do think that that also like played a big part
Speaker 7: in making.
Speaker 5: This step what it was. Yeah, the upbraid for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a huge and that's and it's supposed to
Speaker 7: you know, it's like this is part of a greater story.
Speaker 7: And so you know, from Meet Me and Gate City,
Speaker 7: it was a lot of getting to know us, getting
Speaker 7: to know how to operate with each other, and us
Speaker 7: getting to know who our audience was now because this
Speaker 7: music was quite a bit different than my solo music
Speaker 7: and now with Giant Steps, it's exactly that. Like we
Speaker 7: were willing to challenge ourselves, we were willing to challenge
Speaker 7: the listeners, We were willing to challenge the status quo.
Speaker 7: We were willing to step outside of all of our
Speaker 7: comfort zones and just make a record that we felt
Speaker 7: was like a strong body of work. And I'm happy
Speaker 7: to like stand on that for a long time.
Speaker 6: Yea, was that a difficult decision to to because you
Speaker 6: had done the previous tracks?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah we tried. Frankly, like we we we
Speaker 7: took a couple of different attempts at doing so. We
Speaker 7: were gonna do EP three before the new album we
Speaker 7: had so that we did Pound of Flesh. Then we
Speaker 7: did Renaissance Park, and we have one more that we
Speaker 7: already have written, and so we went to record that
Speaker 7: and we just we just weren't feeling it. There was
Speaker 7: just something, And that's when I think he started to
Speaker 7: realize he was getting burnt from the engineering, the mixing,
Speaker 7: the mastering, all that stuff, and it.
Speaker 9: Was juggling family with work and at the studio till
Speaker 9: two am and then waking up and going to work
Speaker 9: and doing the same thing, and.
Speaker 6: It's a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot. And we have been doing
Speaker 5: that for like three years straight.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you don't get that same off filming, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: you don't get that same fulfillment when it feels like
Speaker 7: work all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what it was definitely becoming the field.
Speaker 9: It was starting to feel like work and that's the
Speaker 9: complete opposite artist, right right.
Speaker 7: But it was also like a blessing in disguise because
Speaker 7: the songs for EP three, while we love them, by
Speaker 7: the time we kind of figured out that we wanted
Speaker 7: to like go back into the studio setting, those songs
Speaker 7: wouldn't have worked for the time period that they would
Speaker 7: have been done. You know, there was just a sonic
Speaker 7: appeal to having them in like the springtime. They just
Speaker 7: have that kind of energy. And we didn't start recording
Speaker 7: until the beginning of summer, so by the time we
Speaker 7: were done, it was going to be late summer fall,
Speaker 7: and we would have just been putting out songs just
Speaker 7: to put something out and just to keep up with
Speaker 7: the joneses, And instead we have this body of work
Speaker 7: that just like everything made sense and it was like
Speaker 7: it just really reminded us of like we can't always
Speaker 7: dictate the timelines. We just have to make the art
Speaker 7: in the art going to tell us not to be
Speaker 7: like you know, but like the art is really going
Speaker 7: to set the terms of like what we can do.
Speaker 7: Like nothing we say matters until we have a body
Speaker 7: of work in our hands and then we can you know,
Speaker 7: get to the starting line.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. By the way,
Speaker 6: you mentioned so you do you've done most of the
Speaker 6: artwork for the artist who released through All Lound. Yeah,
Speaker 6: is there is there any kind of a like, do
Speaker 6: you have a specific style that you apply to The
Speaker 6: reason I'm curious is in the past, it probably isn't
Speaker 6: really a thing anymore, but I just remember like back
Speaker 6: in the nineties or in the two thousands, like No
Speaker 6: Limit Records, you know, there was a very.
Speaker 7: Specific style pixel.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm curious if if, like, do you have a
Speaker 6: specific style that you try to use.
Speaker 7: Or I don't. The only thing I guess I would
Speaker 7: really say about my style is that I am in
Speaker 7: I'm not like a traditionally trained graphic designer. I don't
Speaker 7: have any sort of like art background or anything. I
Speaker 7: learned how to use photoshop purely because I wanted to
Speaker 7: be a guy starting a record label, and so the
Speaker 7: root of my like artistic style is very photo heavy.
Speaker 7: So I love when somebody can either give me a
Speaker 7: photo or give me a reference or something, and that
Speaker 7: is typically like my canvas, and I can like creatively
Speaker 7: build from there, and like I'm I'm learning how to
Speaker 7: do other stuff. But I would say that through the
Speaker 7: fifteen releases that we've put out that I've done covers for,
Speaker 7: they're very like photo centric, where it's about a certain
Speaker 7: like character or a certain idea and then I'll just
Speaker 7: kind of design around that idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Robert, Yeah, he's the one who basically took all
Speaker 9: the pictures of us, yeah for the for the last
Speaker 9: ep in this album.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 9: Just the the artist in him, Like he was literally
Speaker 9: laying down almost like head in traffic to get that
Speaker 9: perfect angle.
Speaker 5: Yeah. He's one of a kind, awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's actually based here in Manchester. His name is
Speaker 7: Robert Bates okay, and you can so you can find
Speaker 7: his Robert Bates Photography and on Instagram. He goes by
Speaker 7: Domino Sonata. But he's also like a very he's a
Speaker 7: very into cinema, like local cinema and film and film
Speaker 7: history and stuff like that too, So you.
Speaker 9: Could totally feel it when you're like when you see
Speaker 9: his photos. Really, he's incredible, man, And I think what
Speaker 9: Nick did? Beat me in Gay City? So okay, Nix
Speaker 9: is girlfriend?
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, So we have a lot of like close
Speaker 7: people in our network that shoot photos and then I
Speaker 7: just like, am fortunate enough to take those to manipulate them.
Speaker 6: Oh that's cool? Yeah, yeah, very cool. Uh you guys
Speaker 6: want to play another one?
Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah? What do we go?
Speaker 6: Dying to hear more?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 6: If you're just showing us, we have Cody Pope and
Speaker 6: Byron g here with us a live and suit.
Speaker 7: And leant do exit more. Yeah, it's a funny one,
Speaker 7: all right, you're watching at home. You can snap with
Speaker 7: us elevated to the gallows like a miles in France,
Speaker 7: life be hitting differently do miles of dance might have
Speaker 7: a thousand yards stare of of a mile and trance
Speaker 7: life can be so short you're running miles and pants
Speaker 7: don't care for people but a smile because why not
Speaker 7: this life the only one that I know that I got.
Speaker 7: All this third eye jazz got me feeling like Cyclops
Speaker 7: every year for a little closer to the feeling like
Speaker 7: my pops, frustrated with my nation, probably for different reasons
Speaker 7: of posing opinions on opposition, committing treason. I'm from where
Speaker 7: you got to embrace multiple seasons. One day it's spring,
Speaker 7: one day you've taken the leaves and still jump hurdles.
Speaker 7: But I got these long legs for ramp up my
Speaker 7: pro team. What I eat all these eggs for. I
Speaker 7: grew up between exit one and exit for, But even
Speaker 7: as a youth, I knew I had to exit more.
Speaker 5: A little short one.
Speaker 6: That is a short one.
Speaker 9: Well yeah, there's a lot of those little kind of
Speaker 9: like interlowers between each, a lot of the tracks on
Speaker 9: this one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, No, I like it though. One day it's spring,
Speaker 6: next day or taking the leaves, then that is true,
Speaker 6: That is our weather tends to go up. Yes, yes,
Speaker 6: we have Cody Pope and Byron's here with us alive
Speaker 6: in studio and uh sounding great, are you guys playing
Speaker 6: out Lutrey? Are you doing a lot of live shows?
Speaker 7: They so it was I would say, this was probably
Speaker 7: our slowest year we did. We did a run in
Speaker 7: March when we put out Renaissance Park. We were real lucky.
Speaker 7: We got to go out with a already the rugged
Speaker 7: Man for a night. We did some nights in Vermont,
Speaker 7: came here you're with the first stop. That was the well,
Speaker 7: that's the show. That's okay, going back to before we
Speaker 7: were on air, that's we were here for Renaissance Park,
Speaker 7: and that was the show that the computer crashed. Yes,
Speaker 7: because we played let It Grow for the first time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's part of that that same night.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, wow.
Speaker 7: But after that run of shows, it was pretty quiet.
Speaker 7: For the most part. We did something, you know, something
Speaker 7: here or there.
Speaker 5: A lot of life stuff was going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we we started working on well, so we
Speaker 7: started EP three basically in like so, Renaissance Park came
Speaker 7: out in March, and by like the end of April
Speaker 7: we were already jumping into EP three, and then by
Speaker 7: like the end of May we realized everything just like
Speaker 7: wasn't working. And by the end of June we were
Speaker 7: already down at the Bridge working on the new album. Okay,
Speaker 7: So it was just one of those things that like,
Speaker 7: and then we spent so much time doing the album
Speaker 7: and we didn't want to. We knew what we wanted
Speaker 7: to do for the release show, and we knew if
Speaker 7: we did too many shows beforehand that that would kind
Speaker 7: of like spoil or saturate it. So once we started
Speaker 7: working on the album, we made like a very like
Speaker 7: conscious effort to be like, look, we're gonna not perform
Speaker 7: until this show. We want people to really like, this
Speaker 7: is the next time they experience us is going to
Speaker 7: be hearing these songs in a room that we booked
Speaker 7: with our sound ore lighting, our caterers that we brought
Speaker 7: like just like a show the way that we think
Speaker 7: it makes the most sense, and like, I think it
Speaker 7: was one of the best decisions we made because the
Speaker 7: event turned out like really memorable.
Speaker 6: Excellent, excellent. By the way, what was our a the
Speaker 6: rugged man like he seems like an intense dude, Like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's very tense. Yeah, we we didn't get to
Speaker 7: meet him. I I've opened I think I've opened for
Speaker 7: him like three or four times and I've literally never
Speaker 7: met him. So oh really that's just how rappers.
Speaker 6: Are, though, Yeah, he I I I heard I heard
Speaker 6: an interesting story about him. Do you guys know daver So?
Speaker 7: I don't know him personally, but I feel like we
Speaker 7: The name sounds familiar and I'm pretty sure we played
Speaker 7: a show like years and years ago in the past,
Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah he he opened for Uh.
Speaker 7: I bet you that was probably I bet you I
Speaker 7: might have been on that show too, okaybe maybe that's
Speaker 7: where I know him from.
Speaker 6: Yeah he he. He told me an interesting story which
Speaker 6: I won't I won't repeat.
Speaker 5: But I never want to be as loud as a
Speaker 5: live sound engineer. Man. I felt bad for that night.
Speaker 6: Really why I did the engineer take some verbal and
Speaker 6: yeah he did?
Speaker 9: And uh you know, I mean if you're an art
Speaker 9: like as around for you know, over two decades.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's like there's a there's a level of expectation.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta if you're gonna you know, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: do anything with them, which is you know, he earned that.
Speaker 6: So if you guys ever seen the mouthdown he had
Speaker 6: with Tim Poole on his podcast.
Speaker 7: That sounds wild.
Speaker 6: Oh it's great. Yeah yeah, if you go on YouTube
Speaker 6: and just hide in Tim pool all right, the recommend
Speaker 6: I'm sure it comes right out.
Speaker 5: I got to check that out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta get a little angry with Tim Poole.
Speaker 6: It was just like, I'm not that guy. You don't
Speaker 6: want to go there with me. I can't even do
Speaker 6: an impression of it. It's it's really really good, but
Speaker 6: I'm really angry with it. Was awesome, It's fantastic.
Speaker 7: I can just like picture that in my head.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's really good. Now who else?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 6: Is there any is there anyone else coming up in
Speaker 6: the short term who you're releasing through?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 7: In sometime this spring, we are hoping to release so Biza. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: really yeah. Business just dropped a Merry Christmas beat tape
Speaker 7: which is on all streaming platforms, so everybody should go
Speaker 7: listen to that. But when we initially obviously Bizza has
Speaker 7: always been a part of our movement, but when we
Speaker 7: like made a formal offer to be like, hey, we
Speaker 7: want to have a record of yours come out on
Speaker 7: the label, he put out what what I kind of
Speaker 7: consider like his magnum opus is an album he did
Speaker 7: a few years ago. It's called Bobby's boombapp recitle. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's like his producer composition album, and he basically hired
Speaker 7: and picked and curated all of the like vocal features
Speaker 7: on the record and produced it and put them all
Speaker 7: together and it's it's a phenomenal album. It just has
Speaker 7: acrobatic mister Lyft, Crime Apple, my favorite rapper Cody Pope
Speaker 7: is on there. Tons of people are on There's There's
Speaker 7: just Time and lep who don't even really perform anymore.
Speaker 7: So it's probably one of the last recordings that they did. Yeah,
Speaker 7: there's just these phenomenal verses on there. But much like
Speaker 7: a lot of us as artists, because they didn't have
Speaker 7: a budget behind him to do some grand release. He
Speaker 7: didn't have money to do a physical release, you know,
Speaker 7: there wasn't He was doing it all himself, you know,
Speaker 7: and he puts so much into making it that it
Speaker 7: didn't even get like a huge digital distribution. Okay, So
Speaker 7: one of the things that we wanted to do first
Speaker 7: was give that record like a really grand release. And
Speaker 7: over the years we've been trying to like put a
Speaker 7: CD package together that really like is special and put
Speaker 7: some video content around it. So this Spring really is
Speaker 7: hopefully going to be the Bobby's Boom back recital Spring,
Speaker 7: as well as some more stuff from us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, business incredible. Yeah, I haven't interviewed him and
Speaker 6: a really I gotta get him on the show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's always got stuff going on.
Speaker 9: I went into the studio it was like two weeks
Speaker 9: ago to and and ran into Biza there and what
Speaker 9: he was doing that night, I actually got it.
Speaker 5: I had was like taking videos and stuff.
Speaker 9: Just the way he manipulates samples and audio is like
Speaker 9: no one's doing it like him. He could literally you
Speaker 9: can smack this wall and he'll make a full beat
Speaker 9: out of it.
Speaker 5: Like, yes, he's on another level.
Speaker 9: And I hope I think he'll get his flowers soon
Speaker 9: where everybody really Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, I can see that he can just he's
Speaker 5: he's the mad scientist for that's what I call it.
Speaker 5: He just can anything any sound.
Speaker 9: He's manipulating it in his way, and it's really incredible
Speaker 9: to see when he's in his zone at the studio.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate to be biased because I'm obviously like
Speaker 7: his friend, but I can't tell you enough, like as
Speaker 7: a record label owner and obviously like Bizza is an artist,
Speaker 7: so I'm not saying that he's not challenging in his
Speaker 7: own right. But but Bizza is he's the type of
Speaker 7: artist you want to work with as a label owner
Speaker 7: because he's doing things that he was going to do,
Speaker 7: even if you were sorry that he's doing things that
Speaker 7: he was gonna do, even if you weren't in the picture.
Speaker 7: And that's what you want, is you want an art
Speaker 7: of You want an artist that's motivated enough to do
Speaker 7: it themselves, so that when you come in and partner
Speaker 7: with them, you're just adding fuel to something that was
Speaker 7: already there. If you just know a great artist but
Speaker 7: they're not driven to do it on their own, you're
Speaker 7: like pulling teeth sometimes because it's like they clearly didn't
Speaker 7: want it if if you if they weren't already doing it,
Speaker 7: you know. And so with Bizy, you almost have to
Speaker 7: chase him sometimes because he's so motivated that's he's dropping
Speaker 7: stuff constantly, and you got to kind and so that's
Speaker 7: why it's like we have a unique friendship and relationship
Speaker 7: with him because it's like he was doing this before
Speaker 7: either of us anyways. So it's like you got to
Speaker 7: give him room to do his thing and let him
Speaker 7: breathe creatively. But we just feel fortunate that like he
Speaker 7: still like wants to partner with us and do stuff
Speaker 7: with us as well, because we like to find those
Speaker 7: little gems every now and then and be like, here's
Speaker 7: how we can help bring that into the world.
Speaker 6: Right, right, Have you ever I mean obviously I don't
Speaker 6: expect you to mention any names, but have you guys
Speaker 6: ever run into a situation where you work with somebody
Speaker 6: who maybe.
Speaker 7: Just doesn't absolutely yea, yep, yeah, I guess for you know,
Speaker 7: not too many, fortunately, but I would say we've had
Speaker 7: we've had one release that didn't work out, and in total,
Speaker 7: we've maybe worked with three artists that it just wasn't
Speaker 7: the right kind of relationship yea. But fortunately, we only
Speaker 7: ever really were in one situation where an artists record
Speaker 7: came out and it just didn't really work out. And
Speaker 7: uh yeah, you know, like those things are tough in
Speaker 7: the moment, and for us being so early in the label,
Speaker 7: I think it definitely felt like, ah, like what did
Speaker 7: we do wrong? Like what you know? But as time
Speaker 7: went on, like we realized like we did the best
Speaker 7: we could yea, and it just like everything's not going
Speaker 7: to always work out. And I like to say that
Speaker 7: hell Hound is for anyone, but Hellhound isn't for everyone, right,
Speaker 7: you know, Like we are so open to what kind
Speaker 7: of music, what kind of art, the kind of people
Speaker 7: we work with, Like we really just we have a
Speaker 7: wide scope and a love of art, but we also
Speaker 7: have a certain framework within which we like to do things,
Speaker 7: and we have a certain aesthetic and a certain rawness
Speaker 7: and vulnerability and honesty and work ethic and that's not
Speaker 7: for everybody, and so it's not you know, goes back
Speaker 7: to like what I was saying earlier, is like we
Speaker 7: can't hold other artists to the way that we do things.
Speaker 7: We do what works best for us. And if there's
Speaker 7: other people that we love their art, we just have
Speaker 7: to kind of act to meet to what's going to
Speaker 7: work for them to be the most genuine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly not. And you could tell, you could
Speaker 5: tell when.
Speaker 9: You know, the passions not fully there right as well,
Speaker 9: you know, and it kind of sucks the air out
Speaker 9: of the room. So yeah, you kind of learn real
Speaker 9: quick when you get into a couple of sessions with somebody,
Speaker 9: you know, kind of the first or second day, we're like,
Speaker 9: it's either going to be way too much work in
Speaker 9: us pushing, right, and if they're not in that creative
Speaker 9: space or if they're you know, not fully committed, then
Speaker 9: it's I'm we're not going to push you to like
Speaker 9: get there, like you got to have that, like it's
Speaker 9: just an artist in general or musician or whatever, like, yeah,
Speaker 9: you got to have the passion or else it's not
Speaker 9: gonna work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, exactly. We have time. You guys want to
Speaker 6: play one more or star right.
Speaker 5: The last one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess we should.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 7: This is the title track from Giant Steps in Gates City,
Speaker 7: which is affectionately called Giant Steps.
Speaker 6: Okay, Cody Pope and Byron g.
Speaker 7: My lace is tight enough for all my giant steps.
Speaker 7: Now easy get every day to wait say I'm the best.
Speaker 7: Now life be like some big beautiful breasts now over
Speaker 7: a windy day when all the sun dresses out. Even
Speaker 7: when stressed out, stop and taking nothing ahead of this
Speaker 7: life and understand why you love it it. No one
Speaker 7: can do what you do. That's why the gluff won't fit.
Speaker 7: Keep working hard towards your dreams. You'll make so much
Speaker 7: of it. These maverick thns take training more than saying words.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you're on the path alone that's evading herds.
Speaker 8: You lucky.
Speaker 7: If your lifeline it's exchanging verbs. There was a time
Speaker 7: in my life I was exchange and hurt. Went from
Speaker 7: thinking not be dead before the age of thirty to
Speaker 7: making it with words and trying not to be too
Speaker 7: worthy for every step back something to look forward to.
Speaker 7: You've been working. Soon enough you'll be soreing too. These
Speaker 7: giant steps come by learning how to box first LIFs
Speaker 7: to fight. You might want to learn how to box first.
Speaker 7: Progress means getting up when you beat down, dedicated to
Speaker 7: the baby's born beating down. These giant steps come by
Speaker 7: learning how to walk first LIFs to fight, You might
Speaker 7: want to learn how to box first. Progress means getting
Speaker 7: up when you beat down, dedicated to the baby's born.
Speaker 7: I meat clowns all the time. Most of them fade away.
Speaker 7: Not enough battery for all the games they play. Learn
Speaker 7: how to center stop, step on your own side. Don't
Speaker 7: let these cat with this people lead up your own time.
Speaker 7: You know you best, so find a pass of the rest.
Speaker 7: Understand it takes time. Try your by Riskin test, had
Speaker 7: many people tell me I was two heads strong. But
Speaker 7: when I do this, all those people will be dead.
Speaker 7: Wrong people not wrong for offering ways to make the day,
Speaker 7: but everyone God preferences how to make the stake. There
Speaker 7: will be times when you know you got to walk alone.
Speaker 7: Let the power of your actions be the message shown.
Speaker 7: Plenty of your thrones. Don't worry about what the kings say.
Speaker 7: You play lifelike shredding guitar like in way. How much
Speaker 7: can you do before the end credits play? All depends
Speaker 7: on how much you let get in the way. These
Speaker 7: giant steps come by learning how to walk first life
Speaker 7: to fight, you might want to learn how to box first.
Speaker 7: Progress means getting up when you beat damn. Dedicated to
Speaker 7: the babies born feet Dawn. These giant steps come by
Speaker 7: learning how to walk first life to fight, you might
Speaker 7: want to learn how to box first progress means getting
Speaker 7: up when you beat damn.
Speaker 1: Dedicated to the babies born feet damn.
Speaker 6: Pre Well done, guys, Thank you man, well done.
Speaker 7: Well, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 6: Cody Pope and Byron g here with us live in studio.
Speaker 6: What should our listeners know about? Where to find you
Speaker 6: guys online to keep up with everything that you're doing.
Speaker 7: So everything in our universe can always be found at
Speaker 7: Hellhound Publishing dot com. We're really active on YouTube right now.
Speaker 7: So we have a Hellhound Publishing YouTube channel. We would
Speaker 7: love for people to go over there and hit the
Speaker 7: all subscribe button. We're putting out music, we're putting out
Speaker 7: behind the scenes videos. We had our documentary. It's going
Speaker 7: to be out Monday.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm very very curious to see that, thank you.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So it's my first like big video editing project.
Speaker 7: It's like a forty minute documentary just about our whole journey.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 9: I saw it yesterday for the first time. Really yeah,
Speaker 9: blown away? Yeah, oh very cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah, everything Hellhound Publishing dot com, Hellhound Publishing on YouTube.
Speaker 7: If you're on social media, I'm at Cody Pope hc
Speaker 7: across everything. He's at BG six ZH three across everything,
Speaker 7: and at hell Hound Publishing of course too. But hell
Speaker 7: Hound till we're underground, all right.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 6: Anything we didn't talk about that, you want to make
Speaker 6: sure our listeners know about anything we didn't mention you
Speaker 6: guys always got a going on. I make sure we
Speaker 6: didn't leave anything out.
Speaker 7: No, So we're, like we mentioned earlier, we're in. This
Speaker 7: is our kind of weekend wrap up for us. This
Speaker 7: was the first thing we have going on, so thank
Speaker 7: you so much for having us. Yeah, tomorrow night, Sunday,
Speaker 7: we're going to be at the shaf Skiine for Rap Night.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be our last show of the year, kind
Speaker 7: of a holiday wrap up show. And then Monday is
Speaker 7: the premiere of the documentary. And other than that, I
Speaker 7: would just say that our new album, Giant Steps in
Speaker 7: Gate City is available anywhere that you listen to music,
Speaker 7: please take an opportunity to listen to it. That's all
Speaker 7: we could ask is for people to just take the
Speaker 7: time to listen to it. It's eighteen songs and if
Speaker 7: you don't like it, hopefully you'll have a better day after.
Speaker 7: I think you will.
Speaker 6: Very good, Very good guys, Thank you so much, and
Speaker 6: thank you everyone who joined us today. Of course we
Speaker 6: had Neon Gipsy in the first hour, second hour, we
Speaker 6: had the healer Mike McDowell. After the show, I'm going
Speaker 6: to be headed over to the Manchester Masonic Temple for
Speaker 6: the holiday market and psychic event being put on by
Speaker 6: our wonderful friends at the Sister Witch Company, and that
Speaker 6: goes to five pm. Jenny is already there getting set up,
Speaker 6: or she's probably all set up by now and please
Speaker 6: come see us shop local. It is so very important
Speaker 6: And if you missed any part of today's show, it'll
Speaker 6: be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot
Speaker 6: org and my website Matt Connorton dot com and Cody
Speaker 6: Pope and Byron g Thank you guys again so much.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, absolutely, and Merry Christmas everybody. If
Speaker 6: anyone's wondering, yes, we will be here next week, we are.
Speaker 6: We're just gonna keep going right through the holidays, so
Speaker 6: we will see you next Saturday, and we'll close out
Speaker 6: with We'll end today the way we started with the
Speaker 6: new from Kendra Erica, her rendition of it's beginning to
Speaker 6: look a lot like Christmas, which I suppose is appropriate
Speaker 6: locally here in Manchester because we have some snow that
Speaker 6: actually stuck more like ice. But whatever, but a couple
Speaker 6: of times today, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's not not
Speaker 6: great like it was, just it was just enough snow
Speaker 6: to be a nuisance. But uh yeah, we'll wrap up
Speaker 6: with this and uh that's it for me for now.
Speaker 6: We'll talk to you a little bit later, everybody.
Speaker 8: It's beginning to look like Chris smile.
Speaker 1: Everywhere you go. Take a look at the five and ten.
Speaker 8: It's glistening once again with candy hans and silver lanes.
Speaker 1: They're globe It's beginning to look alive like Christmas.
Speaker 8: Tis on every store, But the prettiest sign to see
Speaker 8: is the holly than the move on your own road.
Speaker 1: It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.
Speaker 3: Everywhere you go.
Speaker 8: There's a tree in the Grand Hotel, one in the
Speaker 8: park as well.
Speaker 1: It's a curdy kind that doesn't mind the snow. It's
Speaker 1: beginning to look alive like Christmas.
Speaker 8: So the bells will start, and the thing that'll make
Speaker 8: them ring.
Speaker 1: Is the Carol Bet your son right, the thing your home.
Speaker 1: It's beginning to look alive like Christmas. Ties A Lorystal
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