Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-27-25 hour 1

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4:06 Speaker 4: Good morning, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is that time again. Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact and fos, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is a Saturday, December twenty seven, twenty twenty five. Yes, it is Saturday. You know, I had had no less than four conversations yesterday with people who are having trouble, myself included, by the way, we're having trouble remembering what day it was because it seems like every year between Christmas and New Year's Day we get into this weird like almost like a time distortion thing where everything feels kind of weird in terms of what day is it.

4:58 Speaker 4: And you know, Jenny mentioned yesterday she kept thinking it was Saturday. You know, it just felt like a Saturday. So it's but it is Saturday now, December twenty seventh. So welcome everybody. Of course, we are here live, even though if you are local in Manchester, New Hampshire, we've got a little bit of a winter wonderland going on out there. I did not expect to wake up to snow. Not not much, but you know, enough to make it make the roads a little bit slippery. So if you are traveling this morning, please be careful.

5:31 Speaker 4: And but we didn't get it nearly as bad as I think. I think there's some places that are getting slammed. This is supposed to be a pretty tough storm system that's affecting a large swath of the country. But you know, New Hampshire, we're kind of lucky in that we're in this. People who don't live here assume that New Hampshire is like we have these terrible winters. They're really not that bad. I grew up here and when I was a kid, I can you know, I don't mean to do this, you know, when I was a kid, No, but I do recall back in my day.

6:07 Speaker 4: No, but I do remember when I was growing up that the winters here were a lot more challenging than they are now. They were more consistently I mean, it's been cold, this winter has been cold, But when I was a kid, it seems like they were much more consistently cold and a hell of a lot more snow. So we're kind of lucky here. We don't get really extreme winters anymore. Some some winters are very mild. We had a winter here about I think eight or nine years ago where winter just didn't even show up.

6:37 Speaker 4: I mean, it was amazing. So, you know, we're kind of fortunate here. So this this terrible storm system that's affecting places close to New Hampshire, as close as Massachusetts. Here, we're kind of getting uh, we're kind of getting off easy, and we usually do, at least where we are here in Manchester. I mean we're in kind of like this little protected area that you know, we get storm. I mean, we get you know, we'll get a blizzard you know, that might drop a foot of snow once in a while. I don't think last year we did.

7:07 Speaker 4: I mean we had we had storms, but I don't think we ever had anything that was that actually was an entire foot of snow that I recall. I don't think we really get storms quite that big anymore in this area, you know. So, I mean, I'm concerned about climate change, but you know, long term, but short term it does have some benefits, I guess the milder winters. But anyway, so if you are traveling this morning, please be careful because we woke up to more than I was expecting anyway, but we go forth. So we do have some great guests for you today.

7:40 Speaker 4: Coming up in just a few minutes at nine to fifteen in the Eastern time zone, we will have the band Box of Trash and other great band from the UK. Actually, all our guests this morning, they're all UK based bands. I don't have anybody coming in the studio. I am here, I'm flying solo. Jenny's at home, she's resting. She's been very busy. It's been a very busy time. Of course, Illaday is very busy time for everyone. But so we've got Box of Trash, who are going to be joining us via WhatsApp in just a few minutes.

8:06 Speaker 4: And then in the second hour we have the Marches, another great band from the UK, and then in the third hour the Far North. The Far North. Actually it sounds like the name of a band. It's actually just one guy. His name's Lee Wilding, but he calls this project the Far North. And by the way, all three of these artists are artists who they had their first, their very first airplay here on American radio, right here on this program on this station WMNH we did the world radio premieres for all these artists who are now great UK artists who are now making inroads into the US radio market.

8:40 Speaker 4: So in fact, that track that we open with, Something in the Water, that's another great band from over there across the pond, as they say, Rivia, love them, two great songs that we often play on the show, piece of You and Something in the Water, which is their even newer single it just came out in November. Love that song. I love both those songs so much, such a great we've had them on the show. Great to talk to, great band. But I think what we're gonna do right now, because we are going to be speaking with the guys from the Lads as they say, from the band box of Trash in just a few minutes, so I think we should go ahead and hit this.

9:15 Speaker 4: This is their newest single, Nightmare, which is really good, and then we're going to talk to these guys and then we'll play another song of theirs at the end. We'll probably we'll let them pick what we play to close out the segment. I think, but this is a great track. We played this for the first time on the show not long ago, and then at the end of this, we'll have those guys on with us via WhatsApp. But check it out. This is Nightmare and the band is Box of Trash.

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13:04 Speaker 4: I I love it. The track is called Nightmare. The band is Box of Trash. And let's see we've connected via WhatsApp. Let's see if we can hear these guys. Hello, guys, are you there?

13:46 Speaker 8: It's just me. It's how's it going? Hey good?

13:49 Speaker 4: How are you doing? How you how do you say?

13:50 Speaker 8: Your name?

13:51 Speaker 4: Is it bas or baz Baz? How you doing? Welcome to the show. I'm excited to talk to you. I love that song so much. Nightmare. That is catchy, it's infectious, it gets uh, you know, I wake up with it in my brain in the morning, really really good. So I'm very glad you're joining us today. Did did you write that? Are you responsible for that one?

14:11 Speaker 8: That one?

14:12 Speaker 4: I that's really really good, really good.

14:16 Speaker 12: It's about it's a kind of personal, semi personal, and you know, just kind of waking up and feeling like kid off abunding on folk, but then realizing you're really not and it's just jay, you know what.

14:30 Speaker 8: They can adopt feelings you have on a miserable day.

14:33 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I was reading a quote from you about that. Actually, I just found this. It says this song is one of the most raw Box of Trash, I've wrote.

14:42 Speaker 8: Uh.

14:43 Speaker 4: The song is an introspective journey through self doubt, emotional struggle, and a yearning for care and understanding, set against a backdrop of personal chaos and fleeting moments of clarity.

14:53 Speaker 8: Yeah.

14:54 Speaker 4: So that's that's a lot. Yeah yeah, uh yeah, go ahead, are you telling that?

15:01 Speaker 8: Yeah?

15:01 Speaker 4: Oh, it sounded like you're sounded like you were starting to say something. I didn't want to interrupt. No, no, it's all good. Yeah, we might have a there might be a slide delay, as there often is with these trans continental calls, but uh no, uh, I I love and I did listen to by the way, let's see, I did listen to the entire album, really really good.

15:21 Speaker 8: Uh.

15:21 Speaker 4: Now, I'm curious, so where does the name We'll start with one of the most obvious questions. I'm sure you get this all the time, but where does the name Box of Trash come from?

15:29 Speaker 8: Well?

15:30 Speaker 12: I think it's an interesting story, but it might not come across interesting. But like a collect vinyl and I'm into like sixties garbage rock. They do know that kind of early sixties stuff. It's kind of gritty, like.

15:43 Speaker 8: Justgies and stuff.

15:45 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I got a compilation vinyl thing and it was called the Trash Box, And I had a poster up in a studio and it's say.

15:54 Speaker 8: I was like, why don't we just call ourselves the Box of Trash? Yeah that way. Expectations are low.

16:06 Speaker 4: No, it's a great name. It's it's one that it's one you remember. Yeah, yeah, I like it, you know, but it also kind of I think it fits in terms of you know, your sound, it's it's it's raw. You know, you mentioned you know you really like garage rock or I think I even saw did I see the term trash rock referring to you guys somewhere online? So I don't and I'd never heard that term before, trash rock. I don't know if that's something you say over there, but but I but I really like see personally, I love that kind of production.

16:35 Speaker 4: I think a lot of I think a lot of the music that's produced and I don't even want to say a lot of the music that's produced today, because I think it's been this way for a number of decades, probably starting in the eighties. But I think a lot of music is a little bit slicker and a little bit smoother than it needs to be particularly with rock music where you know, you really want to hear those crunchy guitars and everything. But the yeah, but the production on what you guys have done really is it's it's raw.

17:04 Speaker 4: You know, it still sounds professional and it's it sounds amazing, but there is kind of a raw no iss to it, like is that is that something that's important to you? Do you intentionally try to get that sound?

17:15 Speaker 8: And we don't intentionally try and do it, but.

17:19 Speaker 12: It just kind of it's worked our way into It's the kind of all four of us are that type of person, you know what I mean? Yeah, But we recorded the album actually an Illinois a place called.

17:32 Speaker 8: Elgin Oh no kidding? Ah yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:37 Speaker 12: The album is called it's named after a hotel room and sweet oh wow, yeah, I forget the name it now Kindlewood Speech, yeah, kandle with two thirty. Yeah, it was a room number and kindle Wood Sweech was the hotel name.

17:55 Speaker 4: No kidding? So you actually so you came to the States and recorded this in Elgin, Illinois?

18:00 Speaker 8: Yeah?

18:01 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's why I come over. I was I was playing bass for a band down in England. Obviously I'm from Scotland and I was went down the band the Mets, and but they had a guy coming over from Illinois, Juan vella Is from Third Fire Records. He was recording them and I didn't have anywhere to stay, and the end up letting me, let's sleep on his couch. Yeah, So I went down straight back and we went to the pub after and he's.

18:31 Speaker 8: Like, do you write songs?

18:32 Speaker 12: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I let him here a demo I had Cold Space Man, and he's like, I love it. You need to send me that when you get home. And so I sent him over and he's like, I want his own in Chicago. Well, well Elgin, Sorry, yeah, what record is? So I that's how that came about, Just a kind of random meet.

18:53 Speaker 4: No kidding, that's wild.

18:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was one. It's one of the coolest things I've actually done with new I.

19:01 Speaker 4: Spent a lot of time in Illinois when I was a kid because my parents divorced when I was pretty young and my mother, per the custody agreement, moved back to Illinois, where she was from originally. So I spent the summers out there, so I know I know that stayed very well I know exactly where Elgin is and well that's wild.

19:18 Speaker 8: You know. Another crazy thing about it is right in Scotland. There's a place called Elgin.

19:22 Speaker 4: Oh is there?

19:24 Speaker 12: H So, as I said to the boys, I was like, we've traveled halfway around the world to end up in a town that's.

19:31 Speaker 4: It's wild.

19:34 Speaker 8: It's quite man.

19:35 Speaker 12: But recording the album, it was like the guy juanne Velas's he was very insistent on getting the sound we had in our room because we'd send him like like not demos, but like live recordings of in our rehearsal room and he's like, I want to capture that sound that you have there.

19:52 Speaker 8: Yeah, he was quite bag on it as well. So like, like I said, it's not really us pushing for it, it was more him.

19:59 Speaker 4: M no, that makes sense.

20:02 Speaker 8: So like I was like, and he knows his stuff.

20:05 Speaker 12: We're just kind of full lads from a small town in Scotland, you know what I mean.

20:10 Speaker 8: We just play our instruments. Yeah, it's just not our thing.

20:14 Speaker 4: Oh that's wild.

20:15 Speaker 13: Yeah.

20:15 Speaker 4: You just never know, you just never know what might happen. That's incredible. So, so how long did it take to record the album?

20:24 Speaker 12: And we've done it in ten days, nice, nine days because the tenth the tenth day we ended up that was because we were in for the nine days. We were in every single day for about twelve hours a day, and then the last day we actually got to go into Chicago for the day.

20:42 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, we got the boat too and everything.

20:44 Speaker 4: Oh wow, oh very cool.

20:47 Speaker 8: I loved it, loved.

20:48 Speaker 12: Every sect in America. It's it's it's a beautiful place. So it was really beautiful.

20:54 Speaker 4: Oh that's that's awesome. Wow, yeah, that's really cool. Like I said, I spent a lot of time there when I was a kid, so I know, I know you may now that's great. And so you averaged about a song a day then when you were recording it, So that's I mean, was that what what were you feeling like in terms of was that a lot of pressure or were you were you comfortable with it or how was what was that like for you guys?

21:17 Speaker 8: It wasn't really pressure. No, we were quite comfortable.

21:20 Speaker 12: We knew the songs inside out because we it was obviously planned like to go over like just under a year in advance, so we practiced hard, you know what I mean. We've got everything tight and nailed down, So there wasn't no, it wasn't pressure. And Joanne like he he made us feel so comfortable so that like he made like like it would burn. So what happened was would lay down tracks as what like as a band like would lay down all the tracks and then the drummer went and he redone all his parts, the basis went and redone his parts.

21:52 Speaker 12: Haven't in singer, so like it was really easy and it was really quick and it was brilliant to work with them. Yeah, it was really awesome to work with man. And then I, like I said, it was no pressure whatsoever. That's not mean to start to be big headed and anything like that.

22:07 Speaker 8: There just really wasn't.

22:09 Speaker 4: That's amazing.

22:10 Speaker 3: Uh.

22:12 Speaker 4: And then and then so how how long after so so you finish up there and then you and then you go back and then what was the so what what about the mastering and everything? I mean did did was that also done in Illinois or where was that done?

22:26 Speaker 8: Yeah? That was done in Illinois as well.

22:28 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, I can't I think Juanne got another another guy and I can't remember his name just now.

22:35 Speaker 8: Ah oh ah, I can't. I can't remember the guy's name. Now I feel bad now I can't remember the guy's name, but yeah, he got, he got, he got his friend to master it.

22:50 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I like, we had to read the vocals in one track, but I singer lyle he's he picks apart his vocals like was than anybody his own I know, everybody says this their own biggest critic. Yeah, he really is, man to the point where we're like we having to go like, look, man, it's fine as good. So one of the one of the tracks, he had to redo his vocals because he wasn't having it. So yeah, that was the thing we've done over on Scotland. One of the vocals that track code falling Down. Yeah, over here the vocals.

23:30 Speaker 4: It's cool too that in terms of the mastering that it's still you know, because I would imagine somebody getting a hold of this who then has to master it. Who you know, you got to hope that they understand that what you know, what you're going for here, right, because I think it would probably be easy to take something like this and then master it in a way that maybe it loses a little bit of that rawness. But obviously obviously they got it. Right, which is fantastic.

23:59 Speaker 12: I think Juan was, like I said before that Juwan was really keen to make sure that he got that sound that we've got in our rehearsal room.

24:08 Speaker 8: M hm. He was really keen on that.

24:10 Speaker 12: Like we see me personally, like like I recalled all the demos and like on my own, like to bring into the boys all the music and stuff, and like I would spend I would spend the ten days in one song, yeah, and everything affected and like I love all that kind of stuff.

24:29 Speaker 8: But Joan's like, no, really keen for it.

24:32 Speaker 12: So the guy master on it, he knew like what Juan, him and Joan worked together yeah on it.

24:39 Speaker 8: So like that way it wasn't going to get over produced and stuff.

24:43 Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm. They did a great job. And were you Were you intending from the beginning to do a full album because obviously, you know, we live in a time where you have a lot of different options. You know, you can do albums, you can do EPs. A lot of artists just released singles now, wasn't it Was it important to you to do this as a full album, as one cohesive set of songs. Was that a priority for you?

25:09 Speaker 12: I don't know about a priority, But we did want to do an album because like all the songs like actually tell a wild story. It's like a it's like there's the aliens, there's time travel. The whole album actually tells a story. So like like we didn't set out to do that, it just kind of came about. Yeah, But like we always knew we wanted to do an album. Maybe I don't know, there's there's just something about saying I've got an album right rather than I've got a couple of songs.

25:41 Speaker 8: Out right right. Absolutely, it was always it was always an album. We've we've released a couple of EPs, an EP.

25:51 Speaker 12: So far and a couple of singles, but it's just because we haven't been able to get back over to the States to do album two.

25:59 Speaker 4: So so, so, do you plan to ultimately return to UH to Illinois to do another to do more recording.

26:07 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, But we were actually we were actually meant to go to Nashville this time really yeah, October this year, but we had to cancel it.

26:15 Speaker 8: A singer ended up getting married.

26:20 Speaker 12: He was skinned and I so I think his honeymoon was book drowned about that time as well.

26:25 Speaker 8: So he couldn't do it, so I don't We're trying to get over next year. Yeah, but Juanne coming over here. I'd love to. I'd record anywhere in the States to be honest.

26:38 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, that's cool.

26:40 Speaker 8: Good. He's got a friend in Nashville. He was the guy.

26:45 Speaker 12: That he works with and Nashville done some of the songs for Red Dead Redemption too.

26:52 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so like he was going to bring him in with us as well.

26:56 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know, get a more cinematic sound because bands developed so like like with the sounds kind of developed.

27:05 Speaker 8: It's still got that kind of raw energy and stuff like that.

27:07 Speaker 12: Yeah, but there's there's a bit of cinematic kind of style as well. So it was wanting to bring on in this guy, but like I said, ultimately we couldn't do it. So we're hoping to get over next year.

27:19 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Oh that's that's great. Excellent, excellent. Hey, I wanted to ask you too about the artwork for the album. I really like that. Uh, and I'm curious if who did that if if it was somebody in the band, or or do somebody outside the band did that for you?

27:35 Speaker 12: It was it was Lyle's original concept that the guy with the box on his head. Yes, so like that was Lyle's original concept. And then we've got an artist to draw up. And then like we said about because we've got space man and stuff like that, there was kind of like that feeling of like, don know, other worldly stuff.

27:56 Speaker 4: So, yeah, we.

27:57 Speaker 12: Wanted the kind of space ship bringing. We call him Brett. I'm a massive Brett Hart fan.

28:03 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding.

28:04 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, so like we named the guy with the box on his head Brett. Yeah, so like we wanted to make it as if Brett was getting dropped off.

28:11 Speaker 8: On Earth to bring our music.

28:14 Speaker 13: Yeah.

28:14 Speaker 4: Oh wow, that was.

28:17 Speaker 8: Kind of the concept of it.

28:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. You like to hit man?

28:21 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh man, the best of was the best of us.

28:25 Speaker 4: That's awesome. No, that's very very cool. He's my second favorite of all time. My first favorite is Macho Man Randy Savage, but Brett is a Brett. Brett is a very very close number two.

28:36 Speaker 8: But Bett like as number two for me as well. Stone Cold's my favorite, though.

28:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean would be Sean would be my number three. Well, have to I do. I also do a wrestling podcast. We'll have to we'll have to get you on there. Absolutely.

28:51 Speaker 12: I like watched, like, like I said, stone Colds my favorite. Yeah, I watched it from the King of the Ring ninety six. Yeah, it's like so I'd watch every raw, every pay per view. Yeah, the way they retired.

29:05 Speaker 4: Yeah oh wow.

29:07 Speaker 12: So like the matches with Brett Hart like that basically made Stone Colds for me. So like that's why I've got a fondness for Brett.

29:13 Speaker 2: Yeah.

29:14 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, that's that's very cool, very cool. Oh you mentioned too, So so you collect vinyl? What's what's the vinyl situation like there? Because here in the United States, a lot of artists are still well, all all the major labels still put out vinyl, which a lot of people don't even realize, but a lot of independent artists too. You know, it's expensive, but but they put music out on vinyl. I mean, do you do you do you have plans to release or maybe you already have. I don't know. Is is Candlewood two thirty coming out on vinyl?

29:45 Speaker 12: Or we actually had, we had plans to release it through a company over here, but it was like through a third party and then they pulled out. So like, really, we want to and I think that's something we're going to do in the future. Like you said, is it's really really expensive, but it's something. It's it's something like I love because like having that physical copy of something I don't know. I like, I'm a collector of things, so like having like that is just I'd love to have my own album like on vinyl.

30:20 Speaker 12: That's just something that I aspire to have. Yeah, but over here, loads of bands do it. NIGN bands that loads, so they do.

30:30 Speaker 8: Yeah.

30:31 Speaker 12: Yeah, like I said, I absolutely love it. Yeah, and I've got my oldest boy he's into it as well.

30:38 Speaker 4: Now, Oh good good. Yeah, I always say nothing nothing sounds better than vinyl, you know, the warmth of one hundred. Yeah, well, very good now, And and so what's the live situation like for you guys? Are you playing a lot of shows and.

30:53 Speaker 8: We're finished up in November there for the year?

30:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, And our first gig is on the twenty first of March, and that's going to be a next EP release.

31:05 Speaker 8: Oh so we released Nightmare. Our next single is going to be.

31:15 Speaker 12: Oh no, I can't remember it's between two and I can't remember which ones. So I'm not going to say Okay, I get it wrong. But so we've got another two singles and then it's the EP release. So we're doing a headline gug up in Glasgow.

31:28 Speaker 8: Oh okay, so yeah, so and then we're booked up. We've got I think we've got a ten gigs in the diary. I mean, Glasgow's great, Edinburgh's great.

31:41 Speaker 12: We don't really get down to England much because it's a lot of the things is like pay to play basically,

31:50 Speaker 12: and it's like it's it's hard for a band coming up because promoters want you to be able to sell tickets, but bands need to get around the places to that leaving an impression, right, So the cel tickets in the future, so it's kind of hard. But we've got a few gigs down south. We'll get one in Derby and we're trying to get to London. We've got a few folk down in London that is to.

32:13 Speaker 8: Go down there. So yeah, that's one for the future as well. Yeah yeah, yeah. The one in the twenty first of March.

32:20 Speaker 12: Actually my son's band, it's going to be their first ever gig and they're supporting us, so that's kind of oh wow, man, I.

32:28 Speaker 4: Oh, that's very cool. That must be what's what's uh the name of his band.

32:35 Speaker 8: Called the Addict okay, the sixteen year old. I don't think I'm addicted to anything other than playing music.

32:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So they're going to be helping for you. That's awesome.

32:47 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, man, I can't mate. Oh wow, have we standing at the back like a proud dad?

32:53 Speaker 8: Yeah?

32:53 Speaker 4: Oh that is so cool. Yeah, you must be very proud. That's amazing.

32:56 Speaker 8: I feel like I'm too young for it to be happening to do.

33:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's that, there's that part, all right. No, that's cool though. That's that's extremely cool. Yea cool, very good. So the EP is that going to be all new? Are any of those? Are any of the songs from kenel Wood two thirty going to be on that? Or is it all new stuff?

33:18 Speaker 8: For its all new stuff?

33:20 Speaker 4: Oh wow?

33:22 Speaker 12: Three new originals like well Nightmares on it. We've got dB Cooper and we've actually got a cover of the well Doing of Have you heard.

33:30 Speaker 8: Of Nolan Porter?

33:32 Speaker 4: I'm not familiar.

33:34 Speaker 12: It's like a kind of northern soul, like a soul guy Nolan. He's got a song called If I Could Only Be Sure? Really cool man. So we do a kind of a rockier cover of it. Okay, so that's going to be on it as well.

33:48 Speaker 8: Oh, excellent one of the four songs.

33:51 Speaker 12: But we've got loads of songs there, and we're trying to kind of space it out throughout the year and with the thought of recording another album, so we're trying to keep songs back for this album and trying to get songs and you know what I mean, trying to.

34:08 Speaker 8: Spend plates basically right right.

34:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that can be that can be a challenge. I mean, it's a good problem, having a sense, but when you've got more material than is necessarily practical to release in a compressed period of time and you have to kind of space it out, and you know, timing is everything in this business, but that that can be a challenge too when you've got a you know, I mean when you when you're creating. You know, I've been in bands and I'm a songwriter, and I know that when you when you create something and you're proud of it, you want to share it with the world.

34:38 Speaker 4: And so much of this of just doing this is having the discipline to be able to hold it back, and that can be very hard.

34:45 Speaker 8: Definitely.

34:46 Speaker 12: That the other problem as well as like your newest song that you write that everybody in the band loves is your favorite song of all time. Yes, and then like see, maybe six months down the line, you've maybe wrote two or three more songs after that, which you've got the exact same feeling about. Yeah, and then the song that you originally wrote is then just coming out, so you don't have the same feeling towards it is.

35:06 Speaker 8: Trying to kind of balance that as well.

35:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's challenging.

35:12 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, but I we've kind of got it's all written down the plans there. I watched one of the other boys was here to help me because he knows a lot more of the details.

35:23 Speaker 4: And yeah, well that's okay. Now you're you're doing great. We've learned a lot this morning, actually, absolutely absolutely, bess uh. Well, we will have to and we'll definitely have to have you back for the when the EP is coming out, because we want to we want to get you back on for that talk about that and well and we'll you know, we'll we'll play you know, whatever the first single is from that. We'd love to play it on the show where where's the best place for people to go to keep up with everything that you guys are doing that the Box of Trash is doing.

35:53 Speaker 8: I think. I mean, I'm not on Instagram, but I think a lot of the stuff is on Instagram, okay, and Instagram. I'm on Twitter. It's basically the two main ones.

36:02 Speaker 4: Okay.

36:03 Speaker 8: I think Lyle does like tiktoks as well.

36:07 Speaker 12: We've got a YouTube channel that's got like live videos from our gigs and stuff as well.

36:11 Speaker 4: Excellent.

36:13 Speaker 8: So YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and Twitter.

36:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the all the socials.

36:19 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I know.

36:20 Speaker 4: I still call it Twitter too. It's hard to I'm not gonna.

36:24 Speaker 8: I can't not call it Twitter now.

36:27 Speaker 4: Well, the problem is if if you say Twitter, everyone knows what you're talking about. But if you say X, sometimes people don't know what you mean. You know, depending on the context, it's like X. Yeah, well, very good, So I want to so we'll let you go in a moment, Baz, It's been wonderful to speak with you. Uh yeah, I do. I am going to close out the segment with another track from Candlewood two thirty. Obviously we played Nightmare, but what would you like us to play to end the segment, I'll let you pick them, kind of putting you on the spot.

36:56 Speaker 12: But up in the clouds. There's a cool story behind that as well. That's the reason why.

37:02 Speaker 8: Okay is all right to tell it? Oh?

37:04 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, up.

37:07 Speaker 12: In the clouds is I wrote the music and then Wyle was going on holiday and he was at the airport and I sent him the music. He's like, right, send it to me and I'll write the song on holiday. I was like writing no bother and he wrote it well in the sky like on the plane.

37:24 Speaker 8: Oh.

37:25 Speaker 12: The first line is like we're up in the clouds for holiday bound, Oh the purbulence in the sky. So I it's basically about him going on holiday. And it's quite a cool groove as well.

37:38 Speaker 4: I love the grooves to yeah, Oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah. I listen to the whole album and I really, I really like everything on it. So that's a that's a great choice. So okay, so we're gonna hit that track in a moment. We will let you go. But again, thank you so much for joining us, and we will we will talk again in the future, definitely with the EP and now I'll reach out to you too about the podcast. We can get you on that too.

38:00 Speaker 8: I'd love it, man, I'd love it would be.

38:01 Speaker 4: Very very cool. All right, Bas from Christmas, Oh, merry Christmas to you. Absolutely all right, Bas from Box of Trash, thank you so much, my friend. We'll talk to you soon, okay, all right, take care bye bye bye, all right, wonderful. That is Baz from the band Box of Trash. And we will close out the segment with this. And if you are listening live on Saturday, stick around. We've got plenty more to come. But Uh here it is. This is Uh from the album Candlewood two thirty. The band is Box of Trash and the track is up in the clouds.

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45:21 Speaker 4: That is the Ocean by the band replaced by Robots, love them, love that song so much. And before that, of course, we heard up in the Clouds by Box of Trash and thank you again to Baz from the band Box of Trash for joining us. Really enjoyed my conversation with him. There were some cool surprises in there too, So if you missed it, make sure you go back and listen to the podcast of the show so you can so you can hear that some quick music news I saw pop up. This is from Digitalmusicnews dot com and I did not know that this was going on.

45:52 Speaker 4: But Mary Bono files appeal following momentous share copyright victory. I had no idea that this was happening, that Mary Bono, Sonny Bono's widow, was actually fighting with Cher, who was also married to Sonny Bono. Of course, over there's always Here's the thing about the music industry, there's one thing you can always count on someone is always doing somebody for something, it says here. Sonny Bono's widow, Mary files an appeal following a federal judge is ruling last year that Cher is still entitled to fifty percent of the proceeds from her nineteen sixties hits with Sonny.

46:29 Speaker 4: Of course, everyone knows Sonny and Share. Even you youngins have probably heard of Sonny and Share at least before. Before Chare was the hugely successful solo artist that she became, she was, of course, one half of the duo Sonny and Share, it says here. Last year, a federal judge ruled the Chare is still entitled to half of the publishing proceeds from her early hits with her ex Sonny Bono, including I Got You Babe. Everyone knows that song, right, I Got You Babe? Forgive me for singing?

46:58 Speaker 8: Now.

46:58 Speaker 4: A year and a half later, Sonny's widow, Mary Bono has filed an appeal. Mary has been trying to stop paying royalties to Share under so called termination rights, under which artists and their heirs can gain back control of intellectual property years after signing it away. But last year, a federal judge ruled that termination rights do not apply to Sonny and Chera's nineteen seventy eight divorce settlement, which entitled Chare to a fifty percent cut of publishing revenue from hits like I Got You Babe, The Beat Goes On, and Baby Don't Go in perpetuity.

47:37 Speaker 4: In May twenty twenty four, California Federal US District Judge John A. Kronstat ruled in Cher's favor, but the decision wasn't made official until a final judgment that was entered just last month. That judgment was appealed by Mary Bono's attorney, Daniel Shacked Shat, to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday, December twenty second.

48:08 Speaker 4: Mary Bono has argued she should be able to invoke her termination rights to cancel Sunny's assignment of royalties to share in the divorce settlement, but Judge Cronstat ruled that the divorce agreement was a contract for financial compensation, not a grant of intellectual property that would be subject to termination, writing that quote a right to receive royalties is distinct from a grant of copyright unquote, so it says a Shat told Billboard quote Judge Cronstat's got the law wrong on copyright terminations.

48:44 Speaker 4: His ruling, if left standing, will hurt songwriters and creators by allowing not just former spouses, but also publishers and labels to circumvent the Copyright Act and keep shares of royalties even after termination unquote, he said at the time of the judge's ruling last year. By the way, and Share was also in the news recently for this Share was the musical guest on Saturday Night Live last weekend, while Ariana Grande hosted the episode. But the seventy which is unusual, by the way, you would think, because it's not I mean, it's not super common.

49:16 Speaker 4: But occasionally you'll have a musical guest and a host be the same person. You know, like you might have Veryana Grande because obviously she's a musician. You might have her host and be the musical guest, you know, pulling double duty. You see that once in a while. But they didn't do that this time. Cherre was the musical guest. The seventy nine year old has been accused of lip syncing during her performance of her twenty twenty three Christmas track DJ Play a Christmas Song, which left some fans disappointed.

49:43 Speaker 4: Jenny and I thought the same thing as we were watching it. Is she lip syncing it? It did appear that way. She isn't even singing. One person complaining on X this is some of the worst lip syncing I've ever seen, regardless, I mean, even if she was singing live, there was a lot of processing on her voice. And I know, her huge monster hit song was it Believe Do you Believe? In Life After Love? You know, that was like that's like got the auto tune dialed all the way up on that song, and that kind of became like her sound there in that moment.

50:24 Speaker 4: I mean, auto tune obviously during that period was used a lot. It still is, I mean, but used like obviously where you're actually supposed to hear the auto tune. That kind of became the style and the vibe for a little while. And you know, I think it sounds horrible and I hate that song for that reason anyway. But yeah, so some legal news, and of course the lip syncing, I mean, you know, the lip syncing thing, well that'll blow over. Nobody really cares that much. I'll tell you what. For seventy nine years old, she still moves really well.

50:56 Speaker 4: So I'll give her that, but I don't think she was actually singing. But again, and that's not a big deal. But the legal wrangling, I didn't even know that that was going on, that there was ongoing litigation between Mary Bono, who Sonny was married to at the time of his death, and Share. I did not know about that, so that's interesting to me. All Right, we are approaching the top of the hour. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna share, show some love to our amazing sponsors, of course, and when we come back on the other side of that, we'll be talking with the Marches in the second hour.

51:26 Speaker 4: Another great band from across the Pond, as we say, really looking forward to speaking to them. We recently played their new single Don't Fool Me twice. They have a great sound. I cannot wait to talk to the Marches. So there's plenty more to come. If you are listening live on Saturday, stick around lots more Matt Connorton Unleashed on the way. We'll talk to you in a few minutes.

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