Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-28-24 hour 1

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5:28 Speaker 4: Good morning, here we go. It is that time again,

5:30 Speaker 4: our final Matt Connorton Unleashed of the Year twenty twenty four.

5:35 Speaker 4: Today is Saturday, December twenty eight, twenty twenty four, and

5:39 Speaker 4: we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five

5:43 Speaker 4: point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire, and I am

5:47 Speaker 4: not alone. I have a little bit of a surprise.

5:58 Speaker 9: Da Good morning, suntime return.

6:06 Speaker 4: Where have you been. I've been everywhere.

6:08 Speaker 10: No, I've had a few prior engagements to do a

6:12 Speaker 10: blast few weeks.

6:14 Speaker 4: Yes that is true. Yes, been very busy with events.

6:17 Speaker 10: Which has been fun for me to get to go

6:20 Speaker 10: out and work with a lot not work, but just

6:23 Speaker 10: be together with a lot of like small business people.

6:26 Speaker 10: I got to go to the Great North if you

6:29 Speaker 10: don't know the Great North here in the great city.

6:31 Speaker 4: Of Manchester, Great North. The Outworks is.

6:33 Speaker 9: An amazing place to go to.

6:36 Speaker 10: They are an amazing small business here in the Granite

6:39 Speaker 10: State that makes incredible beers and needs. And they had

6:44 Speaker 10: a big craft bear and there were all these amazing

6:47 Speaker 10: individual artists and there was one guy that had like

6:50 Speaker 10: they were like scary scary dolls almost, but I don't know,

6:54 Speaker 10: I don't have to ride.

6:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, A lot of great stuff there though.

6:57 Speaker 10: Yeah, but they kind of look like Crampis. It was

6:59 Speaker 10: like Crampis beats elf on the shelf. Yeah, it was

7:03 Speaker 10: a lot of fun and I really enjoyed. I got

7:05 Speaker 10: to hang out with the Sister Witch Company and meet

7:08 Speaker 10: a lot of great people there and a lot more artisans.

7:11 Speaker 10: It was an amazing honey guy there for those who

7:14 Speaker 10: don't know, I love honey, which my son knows because

7:16 Speaker 10: he gifted me an amazing box of all kinds of

7:19 Speaker 10: different flavor.

7:20 Speaker 4: Yes.

7:21 Speaker 9: So, yes, I had a great holidays. You have a good,

7:23 Speaker 9: great holiday, did I?

7:25 Speaker 4: Yeah? You were there, well, you know, yes, it was

7:30 Speaker 4: very nice. It was very nice. But I'm always but

7:34 Speaker 4: I'm always, uh, I'm always relieved when the holidays are over.

7:38 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are.

7:40 Speaker 9: We're in a food comber for like two days.

7:42 Speaker 1: I was.

7:42 Speaker 4: I was, well, we have a great show for you today,

7:46 Speaker 4: and right now for the first hour, someone who has

7:49 Speaker 4: not been with us for Yeah, it's been at least

7:51 Speaker 4: a year. I think over a year. Gracie Gatto is here. Welcome, Welcome.

7:57 Speaker 4: You gotta just pull that pull that up a little bit. Yeah,

7:59 Speaker 4: just so you're you're right.

8:01 Speaker 9: Right to your face.

8:05 Speaker 11: I feel like.

8:07 Speaker 9: It makes you feel weird. Then you got it in

8:10 Speaker 9: the right place.

8:11 Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. Oh, well, that reminds me.

8:17 Speaker 4: Today's show is audio only. So yeah, if you uh,

8:21 Speaker 4: if you are just tuning in, by the way, don't

8:23 Speaker 4: look for us on Facebook or YouTube or anywhere today.

8:26 Speaker 4: A little bit of an issue with the streaming software here,

8:28 Speaker 4: so uh, we are strictly audio. But if you go

8:30 Speaker 4: to Matt connorton dot com slash live, not only can

8:33 Speaker 4: you access the audio uh feed there, but you can

8:36 Speaker 4: also interact with us. You can send us in incent message,

8:39 Speaker 4: you can chat with us there. I will keep an

8:40 Speaker 4: eye on that. And uh, Gracie, what have you what

8:44 Speaker 4: have you been up to? It's it's kind of a

8:46 Speaker 4: general question, but it has been over a year since

8:49 Speaker 4: since we've seen you, and uh, and you do have

8:51 Speaker 4: a very interesting project we're going to talk about. But uh,

8:53 Speaker 4: what's been going on?

8:54 Speaker 11: Well, it's been grim the past year. So I've been

9:00 Speaker 11: I kind of disappeared. I was my mother's caregiver. Oh wow,

9:04 Speaker 11: so that kind of took me out of you know,

9:07 Speaker 11: project making. So you know, she passed away.

9:12 Speaker 4: We're gonna, uh, Gracie, We're gonna switch you to uh,

9:15 Speaker 4: let's why don't we put Gracie in the middle. We're

9:18 Speaker 4: gonna switch you to that middle microphone because I don't

9:19 Speaker 4: know if you can hear it in your headphones.

9:20 Speaker 11: But that's it's not you really lower to talk louder.

9:24 Speaker 4: It's you know what it is. It's like it's it's

9:25 Speaker 4: cutting in and out a little bit. Yeah, let's put

9:27 Speaker 4: you in the middle. And if you are just doing us,

9:32 Speaker 4: Gracie got to us here with us live in studio

9:35 Speaker 4: on this uh Saturday morning. But the joys of live broadcasting.

9:42 Speaker 4: But uh, usually if one of those mics isn't isn't working.

9:45 Speaker 4: The other one will, so we'll try the we'll try that.

9:48 Speaker 4: I think this is all I can already tell. This

9:51 Speaker 4: is gonna be much better.

9:52 Speaker 11: Okay, can you hear me now?

9:53 Speaker 4: Oh you sound much better? Do you sound better to

9:55 Speaker 4: you in your headphones?

9:56 Speaker 1: Yes?

9:57 Speaker 4: Excellent? Excellent. So yeah, so you mentioned so sorry hear

10:00 Speaker 4: about your mom.

10:00 Speaker 11: Yeah, she passed away and it was it was rough,

10:03 Speaker 11: but it took me out of you know, making whatever,

10:07 Speaker 11: you know, my projects.

10:08 Speaker 2: Yeah.

10:09 Speaker 11: So eventually I'm working on something called Adam's World and

10:15 Speaker 11: it is a television a child a children's television show

10:20 Speaker 11: celebrating your diversity. Okay, so did you know that one

10:24 Speaker 11: out of thirty six children in the United States has

10:26 Speaker 11: autism or a form of or on the spectrum.

10:30 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know it was that many.

10:32 Speaker 4: But I'm but I'm not surprised in a sense because

10:34 Speaker 4: I do know, uh and you know, I only know

10:37 Speaker 4: a little bit about the subject, but I do know

10:39 Speaker 4: that they've gotten much better at identifying autism than they

10:42 Speaker 4: used to be.

10:42 Speaker 11: Certainly right, and yeah, I'm definitely on a spectrum myself.

10:49 Speaker 11: So there's not really good representation out there. I've seen

10:52 Speaker 11: the television shows and uh, they all seem a little robotic,

10:56 Speaker 11: are just sort of like an android type character. They

10:59 Speaker 11: weren't really like charismatic. And you know, having to deal

11:03 Speaker 11: with you know, working with children who have autism, you

11:06 Speaker 11: got them all over the place. You got some really

11:08 Speaker 11: charismatic kids who are just obsessed with one thing, you know.

11:12 Speaker 11: So I made that a part of the show.

11:14 Speaker 4: Okay.

11:14 Speaker 11: So we have Adam, who's my son, and he is autistic, nonverbal,

11:20 Speaker 11: and there is absolutely zero representation. And I'm noticing that

11:24 Speaker 11: a lot of other mothers have come up to me saying, hey,

11:27 Speaker 11: my kid's autistic nonverbal. I thought I was the only one.

11:29 Speaker 11: Oh okay, and oh I thought I was the only one.

11:32 Speaker 11: And wait a minute, you're gonna make a TV show

11:34 Speaker 11: with a kid who can't.

11:34 Speaker 4: Talk, and just and just so, just so we're clear.

11:38 Speaker 4: So when you say nonverbal, no, no speech at all, no.

11:41 Speaker 11: Speech at all, okay, wow, But he understands everything and

11:44 Speaker 11: he uses a talking device.

11:46 Speaker 4: Okay, So I made that.

11:48 Speaker 2: What was that? Jen? Oh?

11:50 Speaker 11: Yeah, that face like, what's going on?

11:52 Speaker 1: Jen?

11:52 Speaker 10: Oh no, No, I'm doing other things. Oh well, you

11:56 Speaker 10: guys are, Yeah, don't look at my face.

11:59 Speaker 11: It looked like so some really bad news over there.

12:03 Speaker 11: So so yeah, it just I came up with three

12:07 Speaker 11: characters and it kind of sets up the whole show.

12:10 Speaker 11: And it's, uh, you know, Adam doesn't speak, but he

12:13 Speaker 11: can touch things and upload information directly to his brain

12:17 Speaker 11: and a lot of internal dialogue. Okay, so that's how

12:21 Speaker 11: I get around the whole not talking thing, because the

12:24 Speaker 11: audience and the kids are in on a secret, and

12:27 Speaker 11: that is they are super geniuses, only they got to

12:30 Speaker 11: play dumb for the adults. Interesting, so you know, everybody's

12:33 Speaker 11: in on it, but the teachers, you know. So it's

12:35 Speaker 11: it's really cute. And you know, we got one character

12:39 Speaker 11: who's Sam, who is obsessed with numbers, and I've seen

12:43 Speaker 11: that before where it's like everything is numerical. The girl

12:49 Speaker 11: Zoe and little blonde pigtails. You know, she runs really

12:52 Speaker 11: fast and she can run so fast she can travel

12:54 Speaker 11: through time. Okay, so it sets up the premise for

12:57 Speaker 11: many adventures.

12:58 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, so I pitched this.

13:01 Speaker 11: Already to your PBS kids. I'm waiting to hear back

13:04 Speaker 11: for somebody soon, and I'm doing the Kickstarter too. I'm

13:08 Speaker 11: getting a lot of the you know, people involved in

13:11 Speaker 11: the autism community as well. So I'm getting from both sides,

13:15 Speaker 11: you know, Like I'm from you know, LA, and I'm

13:17 Speaker 11: getting the LA side, and i got the East Coast

13:19 Speaker 11: side with the academics, and I'm just sort of marrying

13:21 Speaker 11: the two and it's becoming really interesting and really really exciting.

13:25 Speaker 4: That's great. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I saw on your

13:29 Speaker 4: website the clip that you had posted, and how like,

13:34 Speaker 4: what is the process in terms of so basically you're

13:37 Speaker 4: pitching this to say to PBS and others?

13:40 Speaker 1: What is that?

13:41 Speaker 4: What is that process?

13:42 Speaker 1: Like?

13:42 Speaker 4: What is the process of pitching a series? Essentially?

13:47 Speaker 11: Basically, it's just what I'm doing right now. I'm this

13:50 Speaker 11: is sort of like a pitch, you know, you talk

13:52 Speaker 11: about who it's for, why it needs to exist, and

13:58 Speaker 11: and just kind of go from there.

14:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like it's a lot to take on.

14:05 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I mean I would imagine just

14:07 Speaker 4: you know, just like going out into the marketplace and

14:10 Speaker 4: pitching it. That almost sounds like more challenging than making

14:13 Speaker 4: the actual contest. Yeah it is.

14:16 Speaker 11: Yeah, but luckily there's a hole in media that hasn't

14:18 Speaker 11: been filled yet. Yeah, So Hopefully I'll get a bunch

14:22 Speaker 11: of copycats and we can help autistic children feel more

14:25 Speaker 11: together and less uh, you know, ostracized.

14:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, is this an idea that you've had for a while.

14:32 Speaker 2: To do this.

14:33 Speaker 11: I've had it for a while. I just haven't really

14:35 Speaker 11: done anything with it.

14:36 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:37 Speaker 11: So at first it was like, you know, something I

14:39 Speaker 11: did for my kid, only it was just me and

14:41 Speaker 11: him on his tablet, make little cartoons and stuff, and

14:44 Speaker 11: he would love it, loved it.

14:45 Speaker 1: And then.

14:47 Speaker 11: And then I got really, you know, just turned around

14:50 Speaker 11: with the whole like, you know, the political stuff, Like

14:52 Speaker 11: I just pulled the plug on that for now. I

14:55 Speaker 11: don't know if I want to go back to that.

14:57 Speaker 11: We'll see. Yeah, but I'm really I feel like they're

15:01 Speaker 11: a lost cause. And children, you know, you can help

15:05 Speaker 11: them question reality, question where they come from and why

15:09 Speaker 11: things are the way they are. There's still hope for

15:11 Speaker 11: the kids, so to speak.

15:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't do that the political side. Yeah,

15:16 Speaker 4: they're gone, they're gone.

15:18 Speaker 11: Yeah, the children are great. I love working with children,

15:21 Speaker 11: and especially you know after a major death, you know,

15:25 Speaker 11: it really helps heal the hearts. Yeah.

15:28 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Have you done anything like that before involving a

15:32 Speaker 4: cartoon project or I know you've done you know you're

15:35 Speaker 4: from la and yeah, you've done a lot of things.

15:38 Speaker 11: Well, I dated a lot of animators. Did that helps?

15:42 Speaker 11: And I actually called in a few animator friends here

15:47 Speaker 11: in the you know, the New England area, and they

15:50 Speaker 11: seem really excited. So that's another thing I'm pitching too.

15:52 Speaker 11: The story takes place in New England, in you know,

15:55 Speaker 11: New Hampshire, and I want to use East Coast animators.

15:59 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Is

16:03 Speaker 4: the idea that every uh so, will every episode be

16:06 Speaker 4: a full length thirty minute episode or.

16:09 Speaker 11: Twenty two minutes and yeah, hopefully the pilot episode they want.

16:14 Speaker 11: They are so curious about dinosaurs they will see them

16:17 Speaker 11: for themselves.

16:19 Speaker 4: That's cool. Yeah yeah, yeah. You mentioned one of the

16:21 Speaker 4: characters can go so fast she time travels. Yeah, no,

16:26 Speaker 4: that's uh yeah, there is. I can't think of anything

16:28 Speaker 4: I've ever seen quite like what you're what you're doing,

16:31 Speaker 4: So you're right, I mean there is a hole in

16:32 Speaker 4: the market for that, right, there's a.

16:34 Speaker 11: Major hole in the market. They have something close excuse me,

16:38 Speaker 11: readjust myself here. Yeah, they have something close, and I

16:42 Speaker 11: think there's a show called Attorney Wu Okay, that's on Netflix. Yeah,

16:46 Speaker 11: I was doing my market research. I was watching it,

16:49 Speaker 11: and it's like, you know, she is basically unable to

16:54 Speaker 11: live her life normally, but she is a whiz when

16:57 Speaker 11: it comes to law, so that the law is kind

17:00 Speaker 11: of like her superhuman power. Yeah, you know, she can

17:04 Speaker 11: recite things really fast, and that's the way the autistmic

17:08 Speaker 11: world works. But it just wasn't as fun.

17:10 Speaker 4: Okay.

17:11 Speaker 11: You know, it's like a legal drama. But did us

17:14 Speaker 11: solve everything like Matt Locke right? And it just disconjoined?

17:20 Speaker 4: Okay, okay. Yeah. It's nice too though that we live

17:24 Speaker 4: in a time where you've got, if you think about it,

17:27 Speaker 4: and I'm sure you've thought about this, if you were

17:29 Speaker 4: doing this thirty years ago, or actually even twenty years ago,

17:34 Speaker 4: the possibilities in terms of where you could go with it,

17:37 Speaker 4: where you could take it and pitch it to Yeah,

17:39 Speaker 4: we're very limited. But now we live in a time

17:42 Speaker 4: because of streaming, you know, I mean Netflix has a

17:45 Speaker 4: million different shows, and you know, you've got all these

17:47 Speaker 4: streaming services. You could even you know, put it you

17:50 Speaker 4: could put it yourself on YouTube and you know, go

17:53 Speaker 4: with that strategy You've got so many different options, so

17:56 Speaker 4: it's kind of like from your perspective, I don't know

17:59 Speaker 4: if you're thinking about it this way, but I would

18:01 Speaker 4: imagine it's kind of like, well, you know, something will

18:04 Speaker 4: work out, you know what I mean, Eventually something will

18:07 Speaker 4: work out with this because you know there's so many

18:10 Speaker 4: different options.

18:11 Speaker 11: Yeah, with a big hole in the market, right, you know,

18:15 Speaker 11: I want to eventually bring in other characters based on

18:17 Speaker 11: real children, and that's something I want to do eventually

18:20 Speaker 11: where we could do sweepstakes to get written in to

18:23 Speaker 11: the show, like someone who did something awesome and neuro divergent,

18:27 Speaker 11: you know, we'll write you in the show.

18:30 Speaker 4: Can we define that term too, neurodivergent for people who

18:32 Speaker 4: don't know, because I think that means more than just autism,

18:35 Speaker 4: right or does it?

18:36 Speaker 11: Well, it's it just makes you fall into the spectrum, Okay,

18:41 Speaker 11: so yeah, it is autism. Just you know, you're just

18:43 Speaker 11: neuro diversion. You're you can't you have sensory overload. Okay,

18:47 Speaker 11: that happens, and you know I think I have that too,

18:50 Speaker 11: and you know I don't a lot of people do

18:52 Speaker 11: when they go into crowds all of a sudden, they

18:54 Speaker 11: just feel like overwhelmed, right, yeah, and you know I

18:58 Speaker 11: can relate to that.

18:59 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, as you mentioned earlier, there's a

19:02 Speaker 4: spectrum obviously, and you know the ways that autism, the

19:08 Speaker 4: ways that they're able to identify autism, they've gotten much

19:11 Speaker 4: better at it, which I I often will point out

19:14 Speaker 4: to people. You know, there's people with their weird conspiracy

19:17 Speaker 4: theories about it all.

19:18 Speaker 11: And vaccines cause autism.

19:20 Speaker 4: That's the big one.

19:21 Speaker 11: That's the big one.

19:21 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, honestly, we don't know all that.

19:24 Speaker 2: We don't know.

19:25 Speaker 11: When when my son got diagnosed as a mother, I

19:28 Speaker 11: took it hard because I thought it was something I did.

19:31 Speaker 11: Oh really yeah wait, you know, maybe it was my diet.

19:35 Speaker 11: Maybe yeah, no, it's just something a mother does.

19:37 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, that makes sense.

19:39 Speaker 1: But no.

19:40 Speaker 11: He is a brilliant, smart kid and he loves his

19:43 Speaker 11: song Adam's World. Yeah yeah, so he's like that's mine. Yeah,

19:47 Speaker 11: you know, but I want to bring it to other

19:49 Speaker 11: children who need that, you know, like I want to

19:52 Speaker 11: do kind of like a resurgence of like I'm actually

19:55 Speaker 11: talking to some of the old Hannah Barbara guys.

19:58 Speaker 4: Really oh wow, whoever's.

20:01 Speaker 11: Left, you know, And it's great because they have that

20:05 Speaker 11: childlike spark still even though they're older, and they're like,

20:09 Speaker 11: oh my god, I could do something with this, I

20:10 Speaker 11: could do something with this, you know, and it's just,

20:14 Speaker 11: you know, it puts a smile on my face versus

20:16 Speaker 11: what I was doing before, which was turning me into

20:19 Speaker 11: a monster too un unsubscribe. Yeah, so this is so

20:26 Speaker 11: much more fun.

20:27 Speaker 4: I can I can somewhat relate to what you're saying.

20:30 Speaker 4: You know, we there was a time when we used

20:33 Speaker 4: to do politics on the show, and we stopped that

20:36 Speaker 4: and now we keep that separate from what we do

20:39 Speaker 4: here at w M and H. And from a mental

20:42 Speaker 4: health perspective, I do think it benefited me.

20:45 Speaker 11: Yeah, because these little prejudices start happening, and you know,

20:48 Speaker 11: it's it's not a good look, and I think that

20:51 Speaker 11: we need to get back to humanity and less of this.

20:54 Speaker 11: He did this, but he did this, but he did

20:56 Speaker 11: this enough of that?

20:58 Speaker 4: Yeah enough? Yeah, absolutely absolutely I agree. Do you find

21:03 Speaker 4: that in terms of well, how old is Adam?

21:06 Speaker 11: Adam is? He just turned nine on December twenty fourth, Okay,

21:09 Speaker 11: so happy birthday at him.

21:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy birthday Atam. Over the course of these nine years,

21:15 Speaker 4: do you think that. I mean, what's your experience been

21:18 Speaker 4: in terms of uh, is there a lot of uh?

21:23 Speaker 4: Is there still a lot to learn? I assume there's

21:24 Speaker 4: still a lot to learn about autism? Is there still

21:26 Speaker 4: a lot that they don't know?

21:27 Speaker 11: Or I had to tell you the truth? We're learning

21:31 Speaker 11: with the kids.

21:31 Speaker 3: Yeah.

21:32 Speaker 11: Yeah, So luckily he goes to I'm going to do

21:35 Speaker 11: a shout out to Nottingham West Elementary School because they

21:38 Speaker 11: go above and beyond for my kid.

21:41 Speaker 12: That.

21:42 Speaker 11: I mean, it's the state pace ward. It's not a

21:45 Speaker 11: private school. So but they go above and beyond help children.

21:49 Speaker 11: So I've seen my my kids thrive like he's been.

21:52 Speaker 11: You know, he's a different kid really.

21:54 Speaker 4: Yeah.

21:54 Speaker 11: Like now he gets into trouble now, yeah, with his

21:58 Speaker 11: tablet look goose, you know, yeah, gets dirty, you know,

22:01 Speaker 11: gets into things.

22:02 Speaker 4: Oh that's fantastic though, that's that's that's good to hear,

22:05 Speaker 4: you know, because public schools get a bad rap.

22:07 Speaker 11: They do get a bad rap, they really do. But

22:11 Speaker 11: let's just say I was cautiously optimistic, Uh huh, but

22:14 Speaker 11: now totally blown away.

22:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh that's great. That's great. And obviously for you

22:19 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's a challenge you know, having an

22:23 Speaker 4: autistic is thatam your only child?

22:25 Speaker 11: My only child? Oh okay, okay, so I wanted uh

22:28 Speaker 11: well it was really crazy. So I was missing for

22:30 Speaker 11: a year and a half and I was caregiving to

22:32 Speaker 11: my mother taking care of my autistic kid, so I

22:35 Speaker 11: had like zero time to myself. Yeah, and you know,

22:39 Speaker 11: when she was sick and he was at school or

22:41 Speaker 11: she was asleep, I would do these little animation things. Yeah,

22:44 Speaker 11: and it just sort of kind of grew from there.

22:46 Speaker 4: Okay, like you know I could do this, I could

22:48 Speaker 4: do this, and you done anything like that before on

22:52 Speaker 4: your you know, you mentioned you had dated some animators.

22:54 Speaker 11: Yeah, well we used to do like more adult versions

22:57 Speaker 11: of that.

22:57 Speaker 2: Yeah.

22:58 Speaker 11: This is my first time ever doing children's television, so

23:03 Speaker 11: I don't know, I mean I'm spiling a lot more.

23:06 Speaker 4: Yeah.

23:06 Speaker 11: So that goes to show you and doing something right.

23:08 Speaker 4: Yeah.

23:08 Speaker 11: Yeah, but I started a kickstarter. We need some cash,

23:12 Speaker 11: help help, so I need to do one polished pilot

23:20 Speaker 11: and that's gonna be our vehicle to you know, shoot

23:25 Speaker 11: to the top. I'm actually I got in touch with

23:28 Speaker 11: the CEO of New Balance because I was thinking about

23:31 Speaker 11: doing product tie ins and since Zoe's sneakers light Up,

23:34 Speaker 11: which she's about the time travel. I thought that might

23:37 Speaker 11: be something that we can kind of team up on.

23:39 Speaker 11: I haven't gotten response, but an official response yet, but yeah,

23:43 Speaker 11: it is, and it's you know, everybody knows someone with autism,

23:46 Speaker 11: so I just styled it could be a good tie

23:48 Speaker 11: in and for autism awareness months, you know, we'll have

23:51 Speaker 11: a special brand sneakers that happen to look just like

23:54 Speaker 11: Zoe's in.

23:54 Speaker 4: The show Excellent. When is When is Autism Awareness Month?

23:58 Speaker 11: June?

23:59 Speaker 4: June? Okay, okay, yeah, I didn't even know there was. Well, no,

24:03 Speaker 4: it makes sense that actually, I think I do remember

24:06 Speaker 4: hearing that there was an autism Awareness month.

24:08 Speaker 11: There's there's an awareness month for everything. I think there's

24:10 Speaker 11: a peanut butter holiday too.

24:12 Speaker 4: And well as as there should be. When was how

24:19 Speaker 4: soon was uh Adam diagnosed after he was born? Because

24:23 Speaker 4: obviously you.

24:24 Speaker 11: Don't you don't know right away, right he was three

24:26 Speaker 11: three okay, heat wasn't babbling.

24:29 Speaker 4: Okay, And that's what I've read is one of the

24:32 Speaker 4: one of the first indicators where you really kind of

24:34 Speaker 4: figure out that there's there's something here as if they're not,

24:38 Speaker 4: and he.

24:38 Speaker 11: Would have like these attacks like panic attacks. He's trying

24:42 Speaker 11: to talk, talk to me and tell me things. Yeah,

24:45 Speaker 11: and he started pulling his hair out.

24:46 Speaker 4: Oh wow.

24:47 Speaker 11: So that's when we got him help, okay, because it started,

24:50 Speaker 11: you know, he started just being aggressive toward him like

24:53 Speaker 11: he like almost like I hate myself. Oh yeah, you know,

24:56 Speaker 11: or I don't want to say I hate myself. That's horrible.

24:58 Speaker 4: But that frustrates that.

24:59 Speaker 11: He was frustrated. So when we got him help, yeah,

25:04 Speaker 11: they we got him diagnosed, and sure enough, he was

25:07 Speaker 11: a textbook So he's got ADHD and you know autism. Yeah,

25:12 Speaker 11: but he's shocked his attack though he could see the

25:14 Speaker 11: wheel spinning. He just can't talk or he'll just pull

25:17 Speaker 11: his tongue, you know, little things like that and it

25:19 Speaker 11: breaks your heart.

25:20 Speaker 4: Does does he learn very fast? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know.

25:24 Speaker 4: If you know doctor Kevin. He's a Nashua doctor, Kevin

25:27 Speaker 4: ross Emory. He's been on the show and he he's

25:31 Speaker 4: done a lot of work in add and ADHD and

25:34 Speaker 4: he's written some books about it. And actually one of

25:36 Speaker 4: the books he's written it's called Managing the Gift, and

25:39 Speaker 4: it's about how he calls it a gift because you know,

25:44 Speaker 4: add or ADHD. It's like, uh, there are ways that

25:47 Speaker 4: you can use at your advantage. For example, a lot

25:50 Speaker 4: of very successful entrepreneurs you know, have that or they're

25:53 Speaker 4: on the spectrum. Yeah, you know, so there are ways to.

25:56 Speaker 11: Talking to the to the experts. So yeah, leave me

25:59 Speaker 11: his name, that'll be great a lot of I talked

26:02 Speaker 11: to someone who's his name is Ellen Armie and he

26:07 Speaker 11: is the head of an organization for autistic children. He

26:11 Speaker 11: put me in touch with someone named Elaine Hall who

26:16 Speaker 11: was a a list acting coach and she eventually had

26:20 Speaker 11: a kid with autism and she started using those methods

26:23 Speaker 11: acting methods. Yeah, and it started to work and he

26:26 Speaker 11: got out of his shell using you know, the ad

26:29 Speaker 11: L stuff, and you know, it really worked out. So

26:31 Speaker 11: now she's kind of like a big deal now in

26:33 Speaker 11: the autism community. And you know, she just happened to

26:37 Speaker 11: have an autistic kid and who knew, right, you know.

26:40 Speaker 11: So I am been emailing back and forth and a

26:42 Speaker 11: lot of people are you know, just they're excited about

26:44 Speaker 11: the project because we need something positive in this world. Yes,

26:48 Speaker 11: So like at least I do as a creator, you know,

26:51 Speaker 11: like you want to you know, go home and say,

26:54 Speaker 11: you know, what I did my job, and I actually

26:56 Speaker 11: went as far as contacting someone named head A Nasty

27:01 Speaker 11: who was one of the head animators of the of Ductails.

27:07 Speaker 4: Yeah.

27:08 Speaker 11: However, I was like googling him like a weird fan,

27:12 Speaker 11: you know, like who the hell looks for old animators

27:14 Speaker 11: from back in the day, right right, And I was like, Okay,

27:17 Speaker 11: I got his name, I got his number. Cool and

27:20 Speaker 11: the link next to him right after on Google it

27:24 Speaker 11: was a goalfund me and I click on it and

27:27 Speaker 11: he's in hospice and I'm like, ah, it's terrible. So

27:33 Speaker 11: uh yeah, but I've been talking to the old guys though.

27:36 Speaker 3: Yeah.

27:36 Speaker 11: It makes it more fun because once I get them excited,

27:39 Speaker 11: I could see their wheels turning, like oh, I've done

27:41 Speaker 11: this and that and this and that. So it's just

27:43 Speaker 11: really great.

27:44 Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes you know, all it takes is one person

27:47 Speaker 4: to give you just a little bit of information or

27:49 Speaker 4: an idea and you just never know.

27:51 Speaker 11: Yeah, And it really is like being a showrunner really

27:54 Speaker 11: is like being in a band. You need your guitar player,

27:56 Speaker 11: you need your drummer, you need your bassis, do you

27:58 Speaker 11: need your lead singer? Get together and make music and

28:02 Speaker 11: if one of you guys is off. The whole band

28:04 Speaker 11: is off, right, So I am putting together a band

28:06 Speaker 11: right now.

28:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. What have you been doing anything

28:12 Speaker 4: else in terms of creative stuff or or have you

28:14 Speaker 4: been solely focused on on the series.

28:17 Speaker 11: Well, I was doing another kind of puppet show, but

28:20 Speaker 11: we can't talk about that. Oh, that was just for

28:23 Speaker 11: fun though, I was testing.

28:24 Speaker 4: The Yeah, that's for Matt Connor to unsheathed. That's a

28:30 Speaker 4: very different show.

28:30 Speaker 11: That's a very different show.

28:31 Speaker 4: Yes, and it's it's not available on FM radio.

28:35 Speaker 11: But but yes, let's stick to the kids.

28:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I was curious because you've done a lot,

28:42 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of radio, a lot of radio

28:44 Speaker 4: back in La especially, and right, and and what else

28:48 Speaker 4: it seems like you've done You've done a lot of

28:49 Speaker 4: voiceover work too, right.

28:50 Speaker 11: Yes, so I turn them out, just turn them out,

28:54 Speaker 11: like whenever comes my way.

28:56 Speaker 4: I need this, you know. Yeah.

28:58 Speaker 11: Yeah, so I've been surviving on that.

29:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well you've got a lot of experience. And uh,

29:05 Speaker 4: how how long have you been in New Hamphire?

29:07 Speaker 1: Now?

29:07 Speaker 4: Has it been ten years? No, it's been six, it's

29:10 Speaker 4: been six.

29:11 Speaker 11: I'm acclimated, you know, like, no before I used to

29:13 Speaker 11: be such a wuss, and like now it's like I'm

29:16 Speaker 11: walking around with T shirt and shorts and checking my

29:20 Speaker 11: mail and snowing outside, you know, like I'll come a

29:23 Speaker 11: long way.

29:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. John Hopwood is who introduced.

29:27 Speaker 11: Us, right, yes, all right, whatever happened to Hoppy?

29:30 Speaker 4: I think he's around, Uh, Jenny, didn't the Hammers say

29:34 Speaker 4: that John? They recently had had he was with him,

29:38 Speaker 4: he was back in Manchester. I thought so. I thought

29:41 Speaker 4: I heard that.

29:41 Speaker 9: But he hasn't reached out to us yet.

29:44 Speaker 4: He's very mysterious, that John Hopway. He's a mysterious character.

29:49 Speaker 4: But that's right, that's how we met, Yeah, John, Okay, okay, Yeah,

29:55 Speaker 4: so you've you've grown too, You've grown to like it here?

29:57 Speaker 11: Yes, And I enjoy driving again thanks to New Hampshire

30:01 Speaker 11: because in La, stopping stop literally I had like these

30:05 Speaker 11: these big thighs of muscle in my abs because it

30:07 Speaker 11: will stop it, stop it.

30:09 Speaker 4: Yeah oh yeah, and here you could just.

30:11 Speaker 11: Kind of like put put it and you're cool.

30:14 Speaker 1: Yeah.

30:14 Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think I'm spoiled. I don't want to

30:17 Speaker 11: drive in California.

30:18 Speaker 4: Right right now, that's understandable. Well, you know the winters

30:21 Speaker 4: here too, have gotten easier, so that probably helps change

30:25 Speaker 4: because I grew up here, and uh, the winters are

30:27 Speaker 4: definitely easier than when I was a kid.

30:29 Speaker 11: I keep hearing that.

30:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Oh it's yeah, there's no getting it's

30:33 Speaker 4: not subtle. No, it's not as subtle as some people

30:36 Speaker 4: pretend it is. It's it's very obvious. And and I

30:39 Speaker 4: remember my dad's telling me that the winters are easier

30:43 Speaker 4: here than when he was a kid, like he noticed

30:44 Speaker 4: in the in the eighties. Yeah, he said, oh, the

30:46 Speaker 4: winter's here seemed to be easier than when I was

30:48 Speaker 4: a kid.

30:49 Speaker 11: So no, but there's still a real possibility if you

30:51 Speaker 11: don't have the right gear, you could freeze to death.

30:53 Speaker 4: Oh sure, Oh yeah.

30:54 Speaker 11: We don't want to give off like we're like the

30:56 Speaker 11: New Florida, right.

30:58 Speaker 4: No, No, we're a long way from that. And I

31:00 Speaker 4: don't want to get to that because I know what

31:02 Speaker 4: that means, because I am concerned, But in the moment,

31:06 Speaker 4: I enjoy it.

31:06 Speaker 13: Geez.

31:07 Speaker 4: We had one winter here was it, I think twenty

31:09 Speaker 4: seventeen where winter just didn't show up at all, Like

31:12 Speaker 4: it barely snowed and it never got cold. It was incredible.

31:14 Speaker 11: Yeah, but it created a lot of sleet. I need

31:17 Speaker 11: to appreciate that.

31:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Sleet's not good. Sleet's not good.

31:21 Speaker 11: I found a new use for kitty litter because it's sleep.

31:23 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, what to just put the floor? Yeah,

31:28 Speaker 11: to get traction with your wheels? Okay, yeah, yeah, no,

31:31 Speaker 11: I didn't know that until I moved here.

31:33 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, does anyone from the West Coast come out

31:36 Speaker 4: to visit you?

31:36 Speaker 11: Yes? I recently had my both my sisters come.

31:39 Speaker 4: Oh excellent, excellent. Do they do when they get here?

31:42 Speaker 4: Are they like? It's cold here? What do you do?

31:44 Speaker 11: The first thing my sister said was where are all

31:46 Speaker 11: the homeless people?

31:47 Speaker 2: Oh?

31:47 Speaker 11: Really, Well they're in LA from LA, and it's like

31:50 Speaker 11: Mad Max over there by comparison. Oh yeah, they were like,

31:54 Speaker 11: where are the homeless people? I'm like Manchester?

31:56 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean it's definitely a problem here, but

31:59 Speaker 4: probably nothing like l A.

32:00 Speaker 1: Right.

32:01 Speaker 4: I mean you see the picture it looks.

32:02 Speaker 11: Like posts apocalyptic now. Yeah, it's it's pretty sad.

32:06 Speaker 14: Yeah.

32:06 Speaker 4: Do you get back out there to visit?

32:09 Speaker 1: Not really? No.

32:10 Speaker 11: Yeah, the mom's thing was pretty rough, and I don't

32:14 Speaker 11: think I'm going to be going.

32:14 Speaker 4: Back for what Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense.

32:20 Speaker 4: Have you been uh, so you've been working on the

32:23 Speaker 4: U on the cartoon. Are you doing that by yourself?

32:28 Speaker 4: And I mean obviously you're you know, you're trying to

32:30 Speaker 4: get other people involved, but so far as anyone like

32:32 Speaker 4: fully involved in the animation or anything, or are you

32:35 Speaker 4: literally doing this all?

32:36 Speaker 11: I'm doing this all on my own as of now.

32:39 Speaker 11: But they tell me be patient because after the holidays, Yeah,

32:44 Speaker 11: we're gonna work.

32:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll work, We'll work it out. Yeah.

32:47 Speaker 11: So, I I mean, the the stuff I have on

32:49 Speaker 11: my website, you know, on grasigotto dot com is basically

32:54 Speaker 11: just like what I would give to the networks is

32:56 Speaker 11: basically it's kind of like a tasting a visual thing

32:59 Speaker 11: that it's not the solid end product.

33:02 Speaker 4: Okay, so no, it looks really good though, And you know,

33:05 Speaker 4: as someone who so I have no I've always been

33:08 Speaker 4: fascinated by animation in the sense that I'm kind of

33:11 Speaker 4: fascinated by anything that I know that I can't do, Like,

33:14 Speaker 4: I have no visual artistic ability whatsoever. I can't draw,

33:18 Speaker 4: Like if you ask me to draw a person, I

33:20 Speaker 4: could draw you a stick figure. That's the best I

33:22 Speaker 4: could do. I look at Jenny's artwork and I'm amazed

33:24 Speaker 4: or the macromea that she does, because it's amazing to

33:27 Speaker 4: me because my brain, I always say this, my brain

33:29 Speaker 4: can't do the math. Like with the macroma that's geometry.

33:33 Speaker 4: My brain can't do the geometry. So I'm always, you know,

33:37 Speaker 4: really interested when I look at things that I can't do,

33:39 Speaker 4: like animation. Like like I look at you know, I

33:42 Speaker 4: watched the clip on your website and it's like, how

33:44 Speaker 4: do you even how do you even draw that? Like

33:46 Speaker 4: because my brain wouldn't be able to figure it out,

33:49 Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

33:49 Speaker 11: Well, the kids. I used my son's face as a model, Okay,

33:54 Speaker 11: so I got a picture of him when he was seven, Okay,

33:57 Speaker 11: and you know, but I didn't mock up there, kind

34:00 Speaker 11: of change it up a bit and yeah, and then

34:02 Speaker 11: I got uh, I'd lost so much time playing with

34:07 Speaker 11: animation tools, you know, like the actual like drawing, because

34:10 Speaker 11: I used to doodle a lot. I'm an oil painter. Okay,

34:13 Speaker 11: So that was just like the natural progression. And there's

34:16 Speaker 11: some magic that happens when you get the lip sync going,

34:21 Speaker 11: and then you get the voice, and then you get

34:23 Speaker 11: the background music, and when that you get that that trifecta.

34:27 Speaker 11: They're alive, they're ave.

34:30 Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you I mean, do you do you use

34:34 Speaker 4: software to forgive my ignorance? But no, just very curious,

34:39 Speaker 4: like do you use software to help you create the

34:43 Speaker 4: scenes or are you Are you doing it like old school?

34:46 Speaker 4: Like are you actually hand drawing everything?

34:47 Speaker 11: No, I'm not hand drawing anything. I actually I've been

34:50 Speaker 11: using AI kind of help out and you know, people

34:52 Speaker 11: go boo, but it's it's the cats out of the bag.

34:56 Speaker 11: It's here, yes, and they're snow avoiding it right right.

34:59 Speaker 11: I think a friend I pointed out a car commercial

35:01 Speaker 11: was like blatantly easing AI. Sure, So basically AI has

35:06 Speaker 11: enabled me become ten people instead of one.

35:08 Speaker 15: Yeah.

35:09 Speaker 11: Yeah, So the scripts are mine though, the ideas are mine,

35:14 Speaker 11: but they're simply it's like having an assistant that's on speed. Right,

35:19 Speaker 11: So like the second I want something, Bam, I got it. Okay, cool,

35:22 Speaker 11: and I'll just incorporate that. So it's like mixing. It's

35:25 Speaker 11: like mixing a stew. You get all the ingredients from

35:28 Speaker 11: you know, television shows. I can say Ducktails where they

35:30 Speaker 11: time travel and they teach kids how to think, you know,

35:34 Speaker 11: get it, get a little bit of that, you get

35:36 Speaker 11: a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Yeah,

35:37 Speaker 11: and you just kind of make a stew and it's

35:40 Speaker 11: something completely brand new. Yeah, that's something that's really awesome.

35:44 Speaker 11: I even wrote the theme song.

35:45 Speaker 4: Oh did okay? Okay, very cool. That's awesome. That's awesome.

35:50 Speaker 4: The other characters, because there's there's two other characters that

35:53 Speaker 4: I saw on the website. Yes, are those based on

35:56 Speaker 4: on real kids or are those just completely yeah, made up?

36:00 Speaker 4: They are?

36:01 Speaker 11: So I did, I did know. I do know some

36:04 Speaker 11: a kid who's obsessed with numbers, obsessed, you know, like

36:08 Speaker 11: how many like things that you wouldn't even think about,

36:10 Speaker 11: like how many teeth are in a mouth or you know,

36:13 Speaker 11: just Okay, that's kind of quirky, but that could work

36:16 Speaker 11: for the show because they need to calculate speed time

36:20 Speaker 11: to get and you know, how to get from point

36:22 Speaker 11: A to point B, you know, so they're going to

36:24 Speaker 11: need math to learn numbers. Adam's internal dialogue is he

36:31 Speaker 11: upsolds everything, but you know he has a super dome

36:36 Speaker 11: that kind of teaches you what everything means. Yeah, so

36:41 Speaker 11: it's like a superdome kind of like a third eye

36:43 Speaker 11: kind of situation. Happening where he's projecting you know what

36:46 Speaker 11: he's getting and you know, so it's great. So I

36:50 Speaker 11: got the trio so far, and you know they're going

36:52 Speaker 11: to get into adventures and you know, we're even talking

36:55 Speaker 11: about like possibly having them grow up eventually. Well, they're

36:58 Speaker 11: in the fourth grade now, my powers are getting stronger,

37:02 Speaker 11: you know, and maybe it could lead up to something different.

37:05 Speaker 4: Like e That's a cool concept too, because I'm trying

37:08 Speaker 4: to think. I'm trying to think, is there another cartoon

37:11 Speaker 4: or another animated show where where the characters actually do

37:14 Speaker 4: grow up? And I feel like there must be something.

37:18 Speaker 11: Self Park did it?

37:20 Speaker 1: Oh?

37:21 Speaker 4: Did they?

37:21 Speaker 11: And The Simpsons?

37:23 Speaker 4: Did they? I haven't watched either of those in so long.

37:26 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a couple of episodes where you know, they're

37:29 Speaker 11: all grown up.

37:30 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, but not but not over a span

37:32 Speaker 4: of time where they got older.

37:34 Speaker 11: And right, yeah yeah, or maybe I mean things are open.

37:38 Speaker 11: I mean, maybe they can get out of their animation

37:41 Speaker 11: bodies and become full right, you know, action motion, you

37:45 Speaker 11: know characters right, right, But I like that.

37:48 Speaker 4: I like that idea though. Yeah, you know, they go

37:51 Speaker 4: from one grade to the next, and and what to.

37:54 Speaker 11: Expect and you know, teachers are new. Teachers are scary,

37:58 Speaker 11: selftitute teachers are kind of but I don't really know, right,

38:02 Speaker 11: you know, yeah, you know, or we get into that

38:04 Speaker 11: and all those little things matter when you're autistic. Yeah,

38:06 Speaker 11: any little change is like, you know, detrimentally.

38:10 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean even for you know, for anybody. Yeah,

38:12 Speaker 4: those things matter. So yeah, so I would imagine for

38:14 Speaker 4: an autistic child, I can see where that would really

38:17 Speaker 4: be some heavy stuff to deal with.

38:18 Speaker 11: Yeah, And it was an honest question to myself, like,

38:21 Speaker 11: you know, am I gonna continue one with the division

38:24 Speaker 11: of people? Or am I going to make something that's

38:26 Speaker 11: going to help? Of course?

38:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that's Uh, I think that's fantastic. Yeah,

38:33 Speaker 4: so in the new year, you expect things will really

38:36 Speaker 4: start moving with it. Yeah, what's kind of your what's

38:39 Speaker 4: what's kind of your dream? Uh Like, where would you

38:42 Speaker 4: most like to see it? Like Netflix? Or where would

38:44 Speaker 4: you most like to see this, lamb.

38:47 Speaker 11: I would love to see it anywhere. Really, it's just

38:49 Speaker 11: long as uh you know, it gives children and identity.

38:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you mentioned PBS, which seems like a

38:54 Speaker 4: perfect fit.

38:55 Speaker 11: It is a perfect fit. There's always Netflix or is Hulu.

38:58 Speaker 11: I have an agent working on it. So basically we're

39:02 Speaker 11: trying to create like some kind of a bidding situation

39:05 Speaker 11: January to where it lands. It's as soon as January.

39:11 Speaker 4: Oh that's exciting.

39:12 Speaker 11: Yeah, it is exciting, except for Hanka got in the way.

39:15 Speaker 11: So so my Jewish animaters are down for the count

39:20 Speaker 11: and you know, my Christian friends are like, we're not

39:25 Speaker 11: working until January second. Yeah, so it's like, okay, I

39:29 Speaker 11: lost you both. Great, So it's just me for now.

39:34 Speaker 11: There are the holidays. I get it, and you know,

39:36 Speaker 11: I'm a showrunner, so I'm just constantly working, working, working

39:39 Speaker 11: through the holidays.

39:40 Speaker 4: By the way, for people who don't know what's a showrunner.

39:42 Speaker 11: A show runner is someone who is creating a show

39:46 Speaker 11: and the person who has the actual vision, the overall vision.

39:50 Speaker 11: So it's basically like being the CEO of a company.

39:55 Speaker 2: You know.

39:55 Speaker 11: So, but we're all moving working vital parts to the show.

40:00 Speaker 4: It's a very it's it's kind of a literal term

40:02 Speaker 4: show runner. You literally are running a show. I feel like,

40:06 Speaker 4: and you would know, having with with your experience and

40:10 Speaker 4: having been in LA I feel like I didn't always

40:13 Speaker 4: hear that term. I feel like I started hearing the

40:15 Speaker 4: term showrunner like twenty years ago and then and then

40:17 Speaker 4: before that, it was always producer or something. But I

40:21 Speaker 4: feel like the Am I right about that? Or is

40:23 Speaker 4: that just my weird perception?

40:25 Speaker 11: No, I don't know. I think because you know, everybody's

40:29 Speaker 11: I don't know, I honestly can't answer that.

40:31 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a newer term.

40:32 Speaker 11: It's I've always heard showrunner because it was kind of

40:35 Speaker 11: like going back to the circus, you know, like you're

40:39 Speaker 11: the showrunner of the circus.

40:40 Speaker 1: Yeah.

40:40 Speaker 11: I think I think it was kind of being facetious

40:42 Speaker 11: and it just kind of stuck.

40:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:45 Speaker 11: Or I'm the you know, the I'm the person in

40:47 Speaker 11: charge of this, you know, show.

40:51 Speaker 4: What Uh so you've got? Do you have other projects

40:54 Speaker 4: that you're thinking about doing in addition to this? Or

40:56 Speaker 4: you're completely focused.

40:57 Speaker 11: On I'm completely hyper focused on this one. Yeah, that's

41:00 Speaker 11: the way it has to be for each project. Otherwise

41:02 Speaker 11: you're spread on teeth in and people see right through it,

41:05 Speaker 11: especially the audience when you're half asking anything, you know, like,

41:08 Speaker 11: you know, they're pretty intelligent enough.

41:10 Speaker 4: To pick that up, right of course, of course, Well,

41:13 Speaker 4: very cool, very cool. Now we should mention too though,

41:16 Speaker 4: Like you said, you know, you take things that come

41:18 Speaker 4: your way. So you are available for voiceover work and

41:21 Speaker 4: things like oh absolutely, yeah yeah, and how how can

41:25 Speaker 4: people find you for that?

41:26 Speaker 11: Go to graciegotto dot com, send me an email and

41:31 Speaker 11: we will talk consultation.

41:32 Speaker 4: Hum what you want?

41:34 Speaker 11: You know, pretty affordable.

41:36 Speaker 4: What's the strangest one you've had?

41:37 Speaker 5: Oh?

41:38 Speaker 11: God, the first one is the one that traumatized me. Was, uh,

41:45 Speaker 11: moan my IP?

41:49 Speaker 4: Is that something we can I'm very curious now is

41:53 Speaker 4: that something we can explain on a Saturday morning?

41:55 Speaker 5: No?

41:56 Speaker 4: Okay, but it was something some sort.

41:58 Speaker 11: Of moan my IP.

42:00 Speaker 4: Okay.

42:01 Speaker 11: I did some voiceover for that. I haven't admitted to that.

42:05 Speaker 4: Oh wow, ever does that? Does that still exist?

42:09 Speaker 11: I don't know. I haven't checked. It's been years.

42:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna check. Here at

42:14 Speaker 4: the station's computer.

42:16 Speaker 11: And I did the voiceover of this clown killer thriller.

42:22 Speaker 4: Yeah.

42:23 Speaker 11: Yeah, so basically I am uh screaming for my life yeah,

42:27 Speaker 11: as this clown is undressing me. Okay, so that was

42:33 Speaker 11: probably the grossest voiceover.

42:35 Speaker 4: Wow.

42:36 Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't even know if that was used. Yeah,

42:40 Speaker 11: but I got paid for it.

42:41 Speaker 4: Oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, but.

42:43 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean voiceovers can go from anything from like

42:46 Speaker 11: jingles to you know, radio stations like point three, you know,

42:51 Speaker 11: fl So it really depends. And I noticed that when

42:54 Speaker 11: a cast, they like people who have broadcasting experience because

42:59 Speaker 11: actors can't fake that. Yeah, so it's like that's why

43:02 Speaker 11: they go with the newscasters in film, you know, the

43:05 Speaker 11: newscasters whoever's available.

43:07 Speaker 4: Right, right, No, it makes sense, that makes sense. Have

43:12 Speaker 4: you done any that I would have heard, like any

43:14 Speaker 4: that are like really like like mainstream commercials or anything.

43:19 Speaker 11: That I can think of that's still around.

43:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just funny to think about it.

43:25 Speaker 4: I may have heard your voice somewhere before.

43:26 Speaker 11: I probably before we met you, probably, I don't know.

43:31 Speaker 11: There is a lot.

43:32 Speaker 4: There's a lot if you ever had to say no

43:34 Speaker 4: to something like somebody comes to you with a voiceover

43:37 Speaker 4: project and it's just too weird.

43:39 Speaker 11: No, it's all about making copy work. But the only

43:43 Speaker 11: time I've said no is when they're too demanding and

43:48 Speaker 11: they want me to charge less. So it's like practically

43:52 Speaker 11: like you know, fifty cents an hour kind of thing.

43:55 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's like no, dude, you're like, well, we're

43:58 Speaker 11: going to go somewhere else, like bye, yeah, get you

44:00 Speaker 11: pay for right exactly?

44:01 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, wow that's wild.

44:05 Speaker 11: So please, please, please, whoever's listening, go to Graciecotto dot

44:09 Speaker 11: com or please donate some money to Kickstarter so we

44:12 Speaker 11: can get that episode going. So we now is g

44:16 Speaker 11: R A c I E g.

44:19 Speaker 9: A t O dot com?

44:22 Speaker 4: You got it?

44:22 Speaker 9: I want to make sure people know how to spell it.

44:24 Speaker 9: G A c I E g A t O dot com?

44:29 Speaker 4: Got it? Yeah?

44:31 Speaker 10: Well, and Merriam actually was just asking about spelling it.

44:34 Speaker 10: One of our listeners who's actually a paraprofessional herself and

44:38 Speaker 10: very active in the autism community.

44:40 Speaker 11: Oh, send me an email. Let's talk.

44:43 Speaker 9: Absolutely, you hear that, Miriam, she'd like to talk. We'll

44:45 Speaker 9: make sure that. I will make sure.

44:47 Speaker 11: Actually, I'm just trying to get everybody involved, parents to educators,

44:53 Speaker 11: entertainment industry. It's amazing how many high ranking entertainment industry

44:58 Speaker 11: executives have children with autism.

45:01 Speaker 9: True, so it touches many families. Yeah, many, many families.

45:06 Speaker 4: And it's interesting too to think about how many people

45:08 Speaker 4: don't realize.

45:08 Speaker 11: It, right, you know, and you know, why not make

45:11 Speaker 11: a Saturday Morning cartoon to make them feel better.

45:13 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's awesome.

45:15 Speaker 11: I really do.

45:17 Speaker 4: I think that's No, I think that's fantastic. Well, Gracie,

45:20 Speaker 4: I'm really glad you came in today. It's wonderful to

45:21 Speaker 4: see you.

45:22 Speaker 11: Good to see you, and Jen, good to see you.

45:25 Speaker 4: We might won't hold you to it.

45:27 Speaker 9: I don't have to wait for over a year the

45:28 Speaker 9: next time to come back.

45:29 Speaker 11: No, that was a crazy circumstance.

45:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's understandable.

45:34 Speaker 9: But we love to have you. We love to see you,

45:35 Speaker 9: and I know our listeners love you.

45:37 Speaker 11: Hopefully, next month, I'm going to get the I'm gonna

45:39 Speaker 11: get the call and I'm gonna say, guess what, guys,

45:41 Speaker 11: I got green lit. I got green lit.

45:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we definitely have to have you back

45:45 Speaker 4: and then definitely, and you know, I.

45:46 Speaker 11: Do want to promote New Hampshire in New England. And

45:49 Speaker 11: I mean the whole story takes place there, they go

45:51 Speaker 11: to school, and the backdrop. I made sure that it

45:54 Speaker 11: was like typical New England.

45:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it look it looks like that.

45:58 Speaker 11: And what I watched, yeah, that's kind of what I'm

46:00 Speaker 11: presenting to is a little bit of a New Hampshire Pride,

46:03 Speaker 11: so to speak.

46:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, no, I think that's I think that's awesome.

46:07 Speaker 4: And Gracie Gato, thank you so much, thank you for

46:10 Speaker 4: having me absolutely And if you're listening live on Saturday morning,

46:13 Speaker 4: coming up, coming up in the second hour, we have

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