Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-9-23 part 2

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Welcome back everybody as we cruise into our number three New Marrow trace of Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three five. I'm in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six if you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connorton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera.

Today is Saturday, December ninth, twenty twenty three, and Jenny is here with us as well at the news desk, present accounted for yes and joining us on the couch. We've got our a great a musical guest today. Kenny Troon is here. Hello. Hey, it's great to be here, guys, Thanks for having me. Yes, Yes, we've been playing some of your studio tracks. We opened with, We opened with, Oh I forget the name of the song. Now, don't have a say in anything? Yes, yes, don't have a say in anything. Great great song.

And then we played old News at the top of the hour at the ten o'clock hour. And we've got a couple other things that you sent me that we can play. But I'm also dying to hear you live and if you want to dive and play something for us, and then we'll come back and uh and we'll Yeah, dying to hear you play something. Yeah, I'm dying to play some raw afternoon music right now before afternoon. I'm still getting ready in the day. Didn't even have my coffee yet, So this is going to be a good one. Is your voice deeper?

And this was a discussion on the show earlier, Is your voice deeper in the morning? Yeah? It takes me to like gigs after four or my prime times, right right right, But you might get some raw goodness right now, because sometimes it's good to get that that early morning voice. Absolutely. Yeah, you want me to play some right now for you guys, Yeah, go for it. Yeah, it's called the Cattle, all right, get me right, I don't know it's way is our boy? Don't I say? If I al haven't blinked none bove then twice soul listen, but you'll take out the gattle that doubt of it.

Now, I'll love them to the gallows, the gallows. Come on, let's me am me good knight, cut your steak green, good knife. See don't oh that dout of home. Oh get me, oh this thing. I can't control my thoughts. I just say, if it's really me, when I don't feel thing, really really red, really Sunday by the the apple, they say, they say, Then you walk me through the gardens, the god in the garden, that's me sunthing, and bring your body in some friction because I'm o hi hi hi loaded out, No, hi hi hi loaded out again Hi hi hi hi yi.

Oh oh oh very nice, very I love that. I love that nice. If you're just joining us, we have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program, and if you have any questions or feedback or anything at all, uh six o three two five oh six oh seven, the studio line is open if you want to call and talk to Kenny six O three two five o six oh seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at Mattconnorton dot com, and of course you can interact into opine in the Facebook live chat.

But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is give us a call at six O three two five oh six o seven. Jeff W call Cole if I'm saying that correctly, says, I get it. Bud Jeffy someone you know obviously, Yeah, I love him. That's my boy, Jeff Run Like Thieves in the chat room says yeah. Kenny Troon ooh okay, you like that? Yeah, yeah, you were telling us, uh, if you want to say this again on here too, This was interesting. How you know how you met Greg? Yeah, from from Run Like Thieves, Greg Santini, the running drummer.

Yes we uh. I'm from Long Island, New York. Shout out Long Island, New York. H So you're you're a real New Yorker. I'm a real New Yorker. I just went to TD Garden last night to see the Knicks lose to Boston. Yeah, so I've seen the Knicks come to Boston and twice two losses in a row. But we'll keep going on that. But Greg, when I move up here, I found this app it's like Tinder for musicians. It's called Vamper, and I swiped right on Greg. He swiped right on me, and we matched and it was great. We didn't go to dinner, but we played.

He drove out to Troy, New York actually on my birthday of last year, and we played a show, and then after we played he met my band members. He hadn't met them before the show. He met them after yea, which is great. But we had a great time. And Greg's the man Greg. Greg fills in for whenever I play shows up here because most of my band members are in New York. Yeah, so like when I do stuff up here, Greg's my go to guy. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a consistent topic on the show about how drummers always play with the different people because drummers are in such high demand, Like, oh yeah, most of the drummers I meet, they're in like ten different bands.

Oh yeah. And plus there's like so many singer songwriters who need a drummer right right,

like and bass players too. Basically you need bass players. Those are hard to come by to. Oh, yeah, sometimes I play bass, And when I was, yeah, I don't, I don't play anymore. But when I was out in playing in bands, I was in like four bands at one point at one time. Yeah, but when you say you don't play anymore, what does that mean? Like, yeah, I'm just I'm just still not doing I still could. Yeah, I'm just I'm not active. And you didn't hit your head and was like, I don't remember how to play this thing.

That would be horrible, that would be no. No, But although I haven't, I haven't picked up a bass in a long time. But but yeah, but drummer. My theory about drummers is when you, you know, if you want to be a drummer, when you go to have that conversation with your parents about, yeah, I want to play anstrument, but I don't want to play the drums. Yeah, you know, either the drums or or the tuba is the other one that they're probably going to try to talk you out of. Yeah, unless they've got a good soundproof room right right, dungeon or basement to throw you down the exactly exactly.

Hey, it's better to hear, than making loud noise, than doing other bad stuff, you know what I mean. So at least you know what they're doing. You know now what brought you, what brought you to this area, because you're from Long Island. How long have you been here? My parents have lived up here since maybe two thousand and

nine or ten, and I stayed in New York. That I didn't go with them, but I would always visit New Hampshire. I loved it up here, and it got to a point where nothing was really happening for me in New York. It was very stressful at very expensive. Yeah, jobs weren't good, and I don't know. I come up here. I got a job with Live Nation immediately being a stage hand and being around the music industry still and actually work also at the SNHU Arena shout out to the bull Crow Boys. So I'm still in involved with music now and it lets me do my music as well.

On top of that, it's just been great. I met the love of my life up here. Excellent. Yeah, so that that's pretty great. And uh, I know, everything's just been good since I moved up here, and I'm living free and I'm not dead yet. Yes, so something's gone right. I'm swiping right, swiping right, matchic on Tinder. I guess what other apps we got out there I can use. Well, speaking of Greg, I think he's on the line. Greg. Is that great? Did Greg call it right now? Yeah? This is great? Hello, gentlemen, how are you hello?

We were we were just talking about you, Hi, Greg? Well, I had to call him in because Kenny's my boy. He is awesome. So that's awesome. It's such a fantastic job just now. It was really great, Kenny, dude. Thanks Greg. We got a jam soon again, Bob. Absolutely, absolutely. But I just want to give a shout out to you, Kenny, and also to Long Island, New York. Where were we both hail from? Kenny and I were also born in the same hospital, same hospital. Oh no kidding. I'm glad you brought that up because I was like, we're from the same with the same hospital.

Yeah,

it gets deeper to get even deeper. Well, very close, very cool. Yeah, So I just want to say I just want to say hello and shout out, and also I just wanted to to give you guys a little heads up for our show. We're actually doing a contest. You know Dan is the singer and Run Like Thieves. He is sponsored by Breed Love Guitar and we're giving away a guitar and I'm putting it out all over social media on our YouTube channel, and basically what we're doing is asking people to cover acoustically one of our songs and post it and then whoever we think is the coolest and the best, we'll get a guitar.

Wow, and we're going to announce the winner at our show January seventh, which I know you guys, Jen and Matt are going to go to and hopefully Kenny's going to go to too. Well, I'm gonna win that guitar. Bro, I'm just letting you know. Ye, you're totally eligible to do it. I was about to play, am I even eligible for anyone's eligible, even Jenny. I think Jenny could do it too. I know. No, that's a great that's a great idea though. That's a great concept. I like that a lot. That's a cool, cool idea there.

Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be cool to get anyway, I just wanted to say thanks guys, and thanks again for having us on the other week and Kenny rock it out, Buddy, thanks Bob, thanks for calling in. All right, Greg, and we will see you on January seventh, Yes, absolutely, six o'clock. All right, we'll be there, looking forward to it, all right, buddy thinks, all right, you got it, Bye bye, all right. The Great Greg Santini, also known as the running drummery from the man likes to run from run like thieves.

Yeah. I mean if you're a drummer, you gotta kind of have that endurance anyway. Yeah. True, you're flailing and the whole hour set or whatever long and plays. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, the most physical instrument because you're using all your limbs. And I'm always impressed when I see singing drummers, which you don't see a lot, at least not on lead votes. See a lot of that. But I love a good singing drummer. I think a good example of a singing drummer turned lead singer and turned their back on drums is the guy from three Doors Down.

Did you know that he drums on the first record? Yeah, I didn't. I just assumed he still was. I forget his name. I think it's Brad Arnold, Okay, I think so, But he was the drummer. But then when they blew up, he was like, I don't play drums anymore. I'm this singer. Oh I didn't know that. I always assumed he was still playing drums. Yeah. No, he wants to be out front. Yeah. I actually did him stage hand for their gig at Meadowbrook and he was, yeah, he's he's just the front guy now. He's been the front guy for a while.

He abandoned that a while ago. Oh okay, but yeah with the little Madonna mike. Yeah, I don't know why I called the Madonna mike, but you know, but yeah, I want to see some drummers that sing, so greg, start your start singingmore? All right, if you're still listening. Even in bands that do have singing drummers, a lot of the time, it's only like part like some songs they might sing on like they'll split the lead singer. Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah yeah. But yeah, I'm trying to think of a band where see I thought three Doors Down, I didn't realize he had a band in the drums.

I'm trying to think of a band where they have a singing drummer who sings everything was also the lead singer. Okay everything, do you know Anderson. No, he's a great artist who him and the Free Nationals. He drums, raps, sings, He's incredible. Oh really yeah, he's like if you see his Tiny Death concert. Yeah, he's just like in the middle, like cutting it up, playing the drums flawlessly and just effortlessly. Oh wow, he's really good. And if you want to go into like heavier drummers that do the Madonna mic seven dust, do you remember that band Morgan would do the like and had the Madonna mic go on?

Yeah? Yeah, I like that. I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head. But yeah, they're out there, and if you're out there, hit up Matt, hit up me. Let's talk about it. Call us in this bands Like, oh yeah, but was he another one that just so I need to be sort of sort of because if you see the Eagles live, he'll play drums on some things, but then he'll come up front for others or and somebody else jumps band. But he but but he's another one who didn't sing on everything, right Yeah, yeah, like I can't I can't think of an example where the drummer is the leads full time thing.

Yeah, yeah, like in Genesis Phil Collins, he would you know, he would come up front, you know, he he'd sing, he'd play drums on a few things, but come up front, you know. And then he was Genesis one. Uh, Gabes left. Yeah, and I love Peter Gabriel. He's like one of my favorites. Yeah. You, by the way, So I didn't know this about you until somebody mentioned it in the chat room that you play multiple instruments, right, Yeah, I play drums, bass, guitar, and piano. Wow sing a rap? I may be. I'm a producer.

Yeah, I produce and engineer and mix all my records. Oh yeah, oh wow. I went to audio school in two thousand and four in New York City.

Learned everything I need to learn, and uh, just so no one can tell me what to like what you do. Like, I think I grew up in a in an era where I was just like a singer in a band for a while, people trying to tell me what to do, how to dress. Signing a label with Capitol Records when I'm twenty one and just dealing with all the behind the scenes stuff like people telling you, oh, you got to do this, you got to write songs like this you gotta do. It's like I learned everything myself just so I could make my own world, make my own universe, because I don't want to play in your world, dude, Like what I mean, Like yeah, and I hone my craft for about over twenty years now, so like I love it.

And we're fortunate to live in a time where you can really do that, you know, like now it's even better for a situation like that, I own all my stuff. No one owns anything that's excellent. Yeah, I don't like because that's the thing with these like these deals. When you sign these deals, they're they're covering your recording costs so all this stuff, and I'm like taking a huge chunk of that away where it's just like you want to just pay for marketing or so I don't know, right, but even then, like Facebook ads these days, Instagram ads, I have like thirteen hundred followers, but my story only gets like seventy people seeing it.

Yeah, you know what I mean. They want you to pay money, right right, It's this whole thing where it's like the Wow Wild West where you got to figure out like new ways to do things. I kind of like it Yeah, Yeah, it's fresh and absolutely it's really cool. Evan Hilsinger chat Room says Kenny Troon is the greatest Evan. Evan's my longest running band member, best friend from high school. We were in a man together, Oh wow, Yeah, where he played guitar, I was singing. And then now he's my bass player and I play guitar and it's kind of dope.

Now is he back in New York or he's in New York he's listening to New York right now, or he could it's the weekend. He could be at his house in the Poconos. So but but the so the how often do you play with the band? Because logistically it must be a little bit of a challenge. Uh, it is. But we're at a point where we like know each other very well. Like if we get like a little run like like if I travel to them and we and we're able to get a little run through for an hour or two before a show, that's good.

Sometimes we don't, but sometimes those shows are the best shows. Yeah, because everyone's just everyone practices by listening right right, what songs are we gonna do? Here are the songs? And I'll be like all right, we'll just show up and we'll leave it there. Yeah, because sometimes when you practice too much, you're like, you like peak already before you even get there. You're like, oh, you do it great at the practice like four times, and then you go to the show and it's not it's almost like saving that energy to just like No, that totally, that totally makes sense.

I firmly believe in that. I like it loose, yeah, but enough where there's a format at the show, Yeah, makes it makes it more exciting. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah, do you want to do you want to play another song? I'm dying to hear another song. Okay, I could play a new one that I just wrote with my uh lovely girlfriend's kids. Now new new as in no one, no one knows this song really, Oh, very nice. We like the premiere on the radio, which they'll probably love. Oh, we love it too. We love the world radio premieres.

Yeh here Beatrix and Walter Saint Pierre helped me write this song. They're in uh second and fourth grade. Yes, so I'll try this one for them, all right, very nice little rock turned into human he ate some grats and Guriel tall. But then he went and had himself some cheese its. He thought, now, well that is delicious. And they drove off the sunset on an elephant.

And they drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and a fante and a fante had a fiete, had a fante. They drove into the sunset as Man and the panda. They showed up to the party with some not shows and the Rito's and Freido and they went to the nick game, but they lost to the Celtics. But it was okay because we had a great time. Then we drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and we drove off into the sunset on an elephant. They had a fante, had a fante, had a fineante, and they drove off into the sunset on an elephant.

Very nice. What is it called elephante? I believe I didn't write those lyrics. They were written by The lyrics are relatable to me because I also enjoyed cheese its. Yes, And think about being a rock. You're a rock and then you just explode into a human. You eat grass, you grow tall, but then you find cheese its and you're like, wow, this is way different than grass. Yes, it sounds everyone can relate to it. I feel it could be my next hit. I would love to send them to trade schools with the money from that, right, you know what I mean?

Not college. We don't want to send them to college and have them in debt for like fifty grand. We just want maybe a ten thousand dollars debt and a trade where they can make money. You know. There you go, I digress, digress If you're just joining us. Kenny Troon is here with us, alive in studio. Benjamin Blanger in the chatroom says, get it. Oh, Benny, that's awesome, and Jay Fat is asking in the chatroom, have you were considered the possibility of extending the length of your beard? To be honest, my beard has been huge before.

Yeah, covets beards. Yeah yeah, yeah he's a beard. It's been really big. Yeah. I actually cut my hair hair. I'll show you my hair is short right now. But yeah, my hair was super long. Oh really, my beard was really yeah. I let it go at the pandemic. It was like, I'm not going to cut it till this is over. And then it didn't end, right,

But uh, two weeks I try to look I try to look a little more presentable these days. But yeah, yeah, tell him I feel his I feel him on the beard. I loved my beard. He has a large beard. Yeah yeah, I could hide snacks in there for later. It was really good. It was a flavor saver. By the way. By the way, I'm curious working at the snow Uh do you know Michael Martino also known as Texas Mic. Maybe if he works? What does he do at this news I forget what he does there exactly. I mean he's there, he's there for events.

You remember, something to do with concessions. Maybe, yeah, you may not have you may not have encountered him. Maybe I've seen him like around. Yeah, definitely, Melanie said, uh yeah, right, all guys lie and say, you know, regarding the beard, say it was huge. I swear it was. You'll find some Google image somewhere of it. We should play another studio track. We've already played a couple of them earlier in the show, but I'm curious to Uh, let's see, is there we've got that there's a song that you sent me that's from a live show, and then there's another studio track.

I'll let you, I'll let you The other studio track is the single and video I've been promoting called I Don't Think We're Ever Alone. Oh we should play that then? Yeah, yeah, let's do that. And uh yeah, this is a great song and can you tell us about it? Is there a story behind it? Uh? Yeah? I during the pandemic, I was living in an apartment that turns into a squat because my landlord, we got served papers right before the pandemic happened where he hadn't been paying taxes on the house for years.

Oh, and they were gonna take it, and they were like, you guys shouldn't pay him anymore because like you know what I mean. So we were like okay, But then the pandemic happened and we were just uh, you know, the power went out, and then I had this steal power from the public library next door and the house next door, and then it was a whole thing. Wow. But I ended up getting out of there and finding a new place. But the place I moved into a week or two before, someone had overdosed in the house and they were trying to get someone else to move in.

Yeah, and they didn't tell me that, So I was dealing with all weird spirits in the house that I moved in. So the song has a lot to do with the weirdness that was occurring at the new place that I moved into, where someone had just recently like died in the house. What kind of weirdness was occurring? Okay, So randomly, I was on the deck and I was I think I was smoking a cigarette or something, and all of a sudden, there's a huge fire on the on the deck, Like a fire just happened. Oh my god, I out of nowhere.

I had to put it out. And then a roommate of mine came out the bathroom with like blood on him and he wasn't bleeding. It wasn't his blood. Oh my god. So a lot of things were happening. Yeah, and uh and yeah, So I feel like I don't think we're ever alone. Was kind of like, I'm like, yeah, maybe, like even if we pass on, like we're still here. And like just even if you feel like there's no one physically there with you, something's up interesting. All right, Well, let's give this a listen. Oh, by the way,

run like Thieves in the Chat Room says, this song is one of my favorite Kenny Truon's songs nice, and Melanie says, why were they weird spirits? That sounds super judgmental. Well, you know when there's blood and fire. Yeah, if they were cooking me like breakfast, and like you know, doing other things for me, like doing my laundry, I'd be like, this ghost is cool, right, A helpful ghost is nice. You know, that's the kind of ghost. Something strange was the foot at the circle kve so to speak? You know what I mean?

It'd be nice if you could choose your ghost. Yeah you can't, you definitely can't. Well, let's give this a listen. So this is Kenny Troon and this is called I don't think we're ever alone here on Matt Connorton unleashed,

just crept in through the door like a black cat in the shadow. Do you hear that? You smell that? I think something's burning. The blood was spilled, loves we lost, smelling slurk within these walls. Something weird going ding. I don't think we're ever alone, and I don't think we're ever lone. I don't think where ever, I don't think we're never alone. I don't think that we I ever know, just fell off the ball was dead like that now's in the corner. Did you see that leg got in the chat? No, I don't want to remember the dog Spiels.

Does spears live with their walls? Something weird going up. I don't think we're ever lone. I don't sit where ever. I don't sick whereever.

I don't think where ever alone. I don't think that we I e A said, I don't think that we I have a sing. I don't think that we I. I don't think that we ever enough. I don't take whereever at home. I don't sit where ever. I don't take clare ever.

I think that we are there for a long that is cool, and that us have a spooky vibe that is I don't think we're ever alone. The Great Kenny Truon is here with us, alive in studio. Yee, the Great Kenny's true. I like the sound of that. Thank you man absolutely. By the way, run like thieves in the chat room, says Greg from r LT says that as a retired FDNY fire Marshal, Kenny's cigarette started that fire case. No. I swear though, because I was on the other side of the deck and I was like thinking, did I like arkle Dan?

I do? I had, but like, literally, uh what I I think happened? I want to clarify to the FDNY alumni out there, Yes, that it was a piece of broken gla mirror on the ground. Son was hitting the mirror reflect. I swear this is what I came up with if it wasn't a weird ghost or something killer. But I was like, and there were like dried leaves hit like hitting the I don't know, I'm trying. Anything's possible. Greg, can you run that through your fd N Y machine? Tell me right if that's accurate or that's the thing that could happen.

And this is very nice. Nicole Saint Pierre in the chat room says, the kids are feeling very famous after hearing you play there. Yes, that's amazing. Hi, Bob's that's very nice, very nice. That's great. They they they think I'm famous. It's weird. Well you are now? Yeah, you get the Matt Connerton unleashed bump. Yeah. When we went to when we went to the Celtics game, Little Walt was like, oh, but can we get sit on the floor. Aren't you famous? I'm like, oh, maybe one day their degrees degrees. Shout out to them.

I'm happy they're listening. And who played a slide on that song? You mentioned my dude, Josh Honigman playing mean brass slide on that last song. Is he in your band or he is? Yeah, he's in my band. We have like a usual suspects list in my band. There's some altering parts, like Greg will join the band for like New Hampshire dates when I'm not in New York. You know, stuff like that. We have like sometimes Maggie will come in and play the sacks whenever we get Maggie and Maggie had a kid, so Maggie is off for there a little bit.

Yeah, like it changes. So we have Josh Hanigman right now on guitar or keys, Chris Pachanka on guitar, Evan Hilsinger on bass, and me on guitar and singing, and then drummers or you know, drummers are hard to come by. Exactly exactly what was your because you play multiple instruments, what was your first instrument? My first instrument was bass because I wanted to join Evan's band. Oh yeah, I didn't know how to play. I just loved music, and I wanted to be in the and it was so cool that they had a band, Yeah, in ninth grade, so I wanted to do it.

That's what got you started. Yeah, well, actually I think I started maybe a little before that, where I borrowed my friend's bass to play in like a hardcore band. Oh really, yeah, we were called Savagery. I can't forget this. Shout out to Nick Voormont, Chris Suarez and Vinnie Roseboom. But we did that, and then I seriously did a band with Evan where I was playing bass, but then I moved into the singer spot because we didn't have a singer, or we did have a singer, but he didn't want to sing, or he was taking too long on doing the singing when it' sing in front of us, or like oh well that's a problem.

Yeah, And then we we we did Me and Evan did a little demo of a song idea where we had you know, those old laptop mics from that were just on the computer. Yes, so he was in the room while I was down the hall singing loud and it was like the same volume as it was just ridiculous. But we did a demo like that where I sang and that was like kind of when I was like, I think I'm going to be the singer interesting. So that's that's how that worked out. Did you take any vocal lessons or are you self taught?

I did when I had a record deal. The label got me a guy Adrian Holtz, which I love that man. I don't know where he is this day, but it was in the Lower East Side Manhattan where I would go see him. The label Legg was like, we need you to have a better voice, and you need to know you know, they're putting money into you. They want you to have that. But basically the like, I don't know his his his studying with him was pretty good. It was like I haven't done it since, but it was the training I needed things I already knew and felt but didn't really know how to, like I don't know, put him in a boy and understand them, yeah, so to speak.

But I did have some vocal training, okay, okay, like twenty one yeah. Yeah, We've got Kenny trun here. If you have any questions or anything at all for Kenny six oh three, two five, six seven, the studio line is open six oh three, two, five, six seven. Can you talk more about your your experience with being signed to a label, because, well, for one thing, I'm a music industry nerd, and we talk about we talk about music industry stuff a lot on you on the show, and you know, and that's kind of a lot of our listener bases made up of people who either have experience in that or are active in the music industry in some way.

And I'm curious here. I mean, it sounds like it it sounds like it ended with you feeling like you wanted to be able to do everything yourself and be really independent. But I'm curious. You know, pretty pretty traumatic stuff. I guess for me, it's like my PTSD stuff. No kid, I was like twenty Yeah, It's like the whole process of getting a deal was it was so weird. It was like it was almost like you and you found a Craigslist ad for a producer looking for a hot new band, and this is like, oh, five, two thousand and five.

So we get a producer and a manager combo from Craigslist. Producer manager combo, and they're like kind of like grooming us in a way of like making us look a certain way. And recording us. Wait, just so I'm clear, So this combo they were advertising and I don't the drummer found it. I didn't find this all the time, but like this is how it happened, like they So we got that. We worked with them for like a pretty long time. Like we we got an investor, so they I guess the manager and producer would record a demo for us, get an investor to pay for it, and then the manager used his contacts to shop it and it and it worked.

We had Hollywood Records come out to see us, took us to dinner after we played the Continental in New York City. That was great. My mom got a whole school bus to bring everyone to the city from Long Island, so we packed the place out. Cool. Yeah, we were We knew what we you know, we're dealing with. We're having someone come see us and all that, and you know, eventually, you know, some some of the records, the labels were what were okay? And I got I hit it off with the dude from Hollywood Records, Jason Jordan a lot, and uh, we didn't end up going with him.

I think Breaking Benjamin was with him at the time. Hollywood Records, and uh, we ended up getting flown out to California to meet with Jamie Feldman and Andy Slater for Capitol Records. So we we had a audition for the Hall label. So it was a cool moment for me and the and the guys in the band at that time because we we show and proved like the Hall labels, like let's make a record. We were just like wow, is this crazy? Like I was the front man then. So when we did the performance, I go off the stage, got in their faces, was doing like, yeah, you know what I mean.

Today I felt like it was a moment in time I'll never forget, you know what I mean. It was really great. Went to the Rainbow Room after La where let's all go over're twenty one. But and then then comes into other stuff where everyone now in the band thinks they know how to write the hit. I'm just the singer even though I played guitar and wrote a song like I only wrote like one or two songs where they let me. Okay the band because the band all things they knew how to do everything. Yeah, they swamped me an auto tune.

I hate auto tune. There's just like things that were just really hard to deal with. Yeah, and then after a while it just was really I couldn't express myself the way I wanted. I was odd man out on little tours we did where like I wasn't even being friends with them. Really we weren't getting along. Wow. It was just a lot of things. And I actually and for that to happen so early and all this, you know, yeah, I habashed it. I left. Wow. I walked away from it because it wasn't right. It didn't feel right, and I wasn't there was like telling me what to where, like the the labels, like tell me where these like leather pants and like just like all this stuff where I'm just like they were riding the wave of like the emo wave and five six sure, yeah seven, And I'm not necessarily I'm from there where a lot of that music came to, you know, get some notoriety, right, but like I always felt it was a little different, and I don't know, it gives me a lot of gave me a lot of grief for a lot of years, because you want that as an artist, You want to be on a label you wanted, But then it's not crack up to all, you know, what I mean.

And you know, we're okay on terms now. Like with that band, we were all young, we didn't know what the hell was going on. We were all needed to grow and learn, and it was just, uh, I don't know, because I'm always trying to make it back to that mountain, but that mountain isn't where I want to go but to some relevance. I want to get my music out to the masses. But it's weird in these times. You feel like when you post stuff, you're a just in the clutter of everyone else's stuff where it'll get overlooked or you have to pay to play.

You gotta pay. If you don't have the money, it won't talk for you, you know what I mean. So it's just interesting to me. But that that whole dealing with the major label was pretty interesting time when you walked away, I mean, did did they try to get should have stay? Did the label put any pressure on you to stay? Or how did? How did know? Because we were signed to the producer and manager who signed to the You know what I'm saying, You're like not even You're like the puppet in that aspect then, like you don't control anything.

Yeah, you know what I mean, So it becomes like I don't even know at that point, but wow, yeah, did the band try to continue without you? Dude? They did, okay, and I felt like they used all the same contexts that they had and I don't care because I didn't want to be involved anymore. They went on, they did a band for a while, and now they they're not a band like most bands. They're a band till you're not a band. But I've never stopped. I will say this. I've been continuing my journey. It's my journey, so it's different from everyone else, is different from theirs, and I kind of like where I've I've gone.

I've gone to weird places I do. We haven't even touched upon this, but I have different aliases and characters in different genres of music that I do. Okay, I have an R and B character named Kenneth Wood. Oh, yes, I found Kenneth Wood online. See that's me. Okay, you didn't know because I was wearing glasses. I was a little more suave looking. Yeah, But I also have a rap alias Snotty Nose, and I'm in a metal post metal band called as Dark as You. Oh, that's a cool wow, cool man. Yeah, Like I built like my own world of genres and music.

Like it's my own label of my own call that weird or narcissistic or anything, but I'm it's pretty. It's my world that I created, and I really enjoy it. And that's when I put my life's passion and yeah, yeah do they Is there sort of a hierarchy in your mind in terms of in terms of priorities. I keep it loose. I know when it's time to do it's weird. I know when it's time to like go into one of the other characters and do or like you know, because I also like to switch it up in music because he keeps it fun that way.

Yeah. So I love it. I love doing it. Yeah yeah, And I have total control of my own stuff. So really good, very cool. Yeah, if you're just joining us, Kenny Truoness here and if you want to, we don't have a lot of time left, So if you want to get in with the question or anything at all, give us a call in the studio line six O three two five six seven. Melanie in the chat room does have a question. She says, are you still in the Haunted apartment. But obviously no, no, that was in New York, back in New York.

That was in Patchhog, New York. I don't know if you guys know where Patchhog is, patch Hoog, but yeah, a fun fact, Billy Idol lived in Patchhog when he came from uh I think England. Oh really yeah, and he moved to Long Island in Patchhop very random fact. All right, yeah, do you want to uh, well, we have some time left. Do you want to play another live song for us? Yeah, let's see we got here. I'd love to hear more alive again if you're just showing us. We have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program.

We'll get another make up there there we go. Okay, this song is called mark my words? All right, how many days over in a week? If you could neverly? No, how we'll ever get the Sunday school long tie Lola knows it. The bus stops right outside of my house. It takes me out in bay Ya. Well, I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my lie. Just fine, I'm lie competative. Mark my words, mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day, we believe in monanjazz miracle monyjasz miracon, mark my words and mark your calendar.

Well, the day is the day we believe in monanjious miracles. How many people do we meet in our short existence? Well, our last count about thirty eight sad years. And go now I know it's at the bus stops right outside my house. Takes me out of bow. Yeah, well I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my life. Just fine, I'm alive. Come to take the thing. Mark my words in mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day we believe in mons miricle born jus mimicles. Mark my words and mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day we believe?

Will we believe? We believe? How will I even get to Sunday school on time? If I never sleep a night, if I never sleep, how will I even get to Sunday school on time? Time? Time? Who? Mark my words? Who mark your calendar? Well? The day is the day we was it even bine? Just mirick yes, mimicals, mack my words in mom your canender. Well, the day is the day. Day is the day. Oh my god, what a great song. Thank you. I love that. That's all. I really appreciate it. What's the name of that again? That song is called Mark my Words?

Okay, now, is that is that out? Is that available? That's on my first solo album, No Longer Scared, which is out on all platforms? Wow? Yeah really really one of the first song not first, but like one of the earlier songs I've written, okay, like twenty two thousand and nine, maybe I wrote it? Oh no kidding? Yeah, yeah, wow that is that is really good, really good. Really appreciate it absolutely absolutely. We've got Yeah, we've got a femanis left. If you have any questions or anything at all for Kenny six o three two five, six o seven, we have Kenny Truon with us alive in studio.

Now, is is everything else? Like, are these as you described it, these different characters they have in music as? Are they all easy to find online for people who want to explore all the platforms? Yeah? Yeah, it's uh if you go to my Instagram Kenny Truon music, Yeah, the link tree has everything so you can like it's like a treasure trove of like what is this? Is this the same person? Like? So it's kind of like, I don't know, I want people to find my music that way and just like keep digging and me like wait, what is it?

Right? Right? Like how you found it? I found the link tree and I have been sharing it. Yes, yes, thank you, Yeah I have. I just came out with I did a merch drop with Tea Public. I don't know if you guys heard of that website, but I got a lot of cool merch on my link tree that I just came out with. This is one of them. This is my album cover to most of the songs you played on the radio today. Oh okay. It's called Mangustine. Okay, nice and yeah, So if you guys want to check out Mangustine, most of the songs that Matt played today,

we're on that album Outstanding. Yeah, we're going into in a couple of minutes. We're going to close out with I've got my thumb out this live. Now. Where was this recorded? This was recorded at my drummer's recording studio at the Coop Live at the Coop Studios in Irvington, New York. Oh okay, And we did it on my birthday. I drove down to New York for my friend Sue's wedding shout at Sue and Danielle and then the next day we went to Irvington and I hired a videographer and we did a live in studio thing and this song is actually improvised, like kidding.

We got in the room and did it. We were starting to do it, and then I was like, wait, let's wait till the cameras on and then let's really do it, because you don't want to give it a waste of energy, you know what I mean? Right of course, So once we caught ourselves, we waited till the camera I was done, and then we like started into that idea we did and what you're about to hear is that all improvised. Excellent, excellent, And before we do that too. Where should people go online? Where's the best place to go for people to keep up with everything that you're doing.

I would on Facebook Kenny Troon or Instagram Kenny Truon music. That's the two most important hubs to find all my music. YouTube Just look up Kenny Truon. I got a ton of I got a channel on there, a ton of videos and uh yeah, and you have an unusual last name, so it's easy to find you. Yeah t r u H And yes, yes, which Matt has successfully said my name the whole time without knowing, which is great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was asking listeners know this, but yeah, I was asking you off their earlier my senior last name, and it turned out I got it right.

Yeah. I was very happy about it actually talking about it this morning before we leaf. I hope I'm saying that. I mean, you don't want to say it wrong, like a bunch of times. I'm like, oh man, right right, right, like eight times before. Does anybody ever misspell it? Like have you ever seen it misspelled like on a poster for a show or something. Yes, I've seen, because if they've heard my name and they try to write it, I've seen it written t r u n e. Oh really yeah, because they're like truan like prune right.

Yeah, yeah, I can see it's funny. I can see where that would happen. Yeah. Yeah, So we'll uh, we'll play this in a moment, but h for anyone listening, if you missed any part of today's show, it will be up uh in a little bit within the hour at w m n H Radio dot organ, at my website Matt Connorton dot com, and uh, of course next week we've got she's do you know do you remember offhand when we have next week or do you have it open? I should have I should have asked you earlier. I just happened to be that talented that I do happen to be excellent, because I know we've got a stacked Tom Russo would be joining us as well as Dark Rain and Vices.

Ah, very good, that's all coming up health on the sixteenth, and of course we'll have Eric Pilcher's classic film review as well, YadA YadA, So that'll be a that'll be a nice full show. And then oh no, wait, oh that's the sixteenth today, I wait, No, today's the ninth. I did give you the right date. Okay, good, good, excellent. No, you know what it has to strow me off is that you and I are actually going back to the Mosaic Art Collection. Oh yes, on the fifteenth for the AI in Art talk. All right, noon one at five we'll be attending the noon one on the fifteenth.

You know, maybe we'll have a chance to tell you a little about it on the sixteenth. Yes, absolutely absolutely, And I'll just remind people too that tomorrow night at seven pm Eastern time. I'll be appearing on the uh Kevin's Happy Hour podcast Kevin's happy Hour dot com and you can find me at Jencoffee dot com, j E N N C O F f U I dot com. And by the way, I said that wrong, it's Trevor's Happy Hour. I keep I keep getting that mixed up in my mind. I keep thinking Kevin's. I'm not sure why Trevor's Trevor's Happy Hour dot com.

We'll be discussing the uh Darryl holland John Oates, Uh backle, that's a Darryl whose house? Daryl, you can't perform my songs without me. It's such a it's it's all very sad. Yeah, he's such a man eater. Well you know what, I can't go for that. Well, well, well say it isn't so all right, we're out, we're out of time, all right, we that we're gonna play this. This is I got my thumb out recorded live and this is Kenny True and Kenny thank you again. So thank you guys for having me. Absolutely absolutely and check this out and we'll talk to you a little bit later.

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