Matt Connarton Unleashed 12-9-23 part 2

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Welcome back everybody as we cruise into our number three New Marrow trace of Matt

Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety

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on Comcast Channel six if you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our

online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my

website Matt Connorton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media links,

contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is

Saturday, December ninth, twenty twenty three, and Jenny is here with us

as well at the news desk, present accounted for yes and joining us on

the couch. We've got our a great a musical guest today. Kenny Troon

is here. Hello. Hey, it's great to be here, guys,

Thanks for having me. Yes, Yes, we've been playing some of your

studio tracks. We opened with, We opened with, Oh I forget the

name of the song. Now, don't have a say in anything? Yes,

yes, don't have a say in anything. Great great song. And

then we played old News at the top of the hour at the ten o'clock

hour. And we've got a couple other things that you sent me that we

can play. But I'm also dying to hear you live and if you want

to dive and play something for us, and then we'll come back and uh

and we'll Yeah, dying to hear you play something. Yeah, I'm dying

to play some raw afternoon music right now before afternoon. I'm still getting ready

in the day. Didn't even have my coffee yet, So this is going

to be a good one. Is your voice deeper? And this was a

discussion on the show earlier, Is your voice deeper in the morning? Yeah?

It takes me to like gigs after four or my prime times, right

right right, But you might get some raw goodness right now, because sometimes

it's good to get that that early morning voice. Absolutely. Yeah, you

want me to play some right now for you guys, Yeah, go for

it. Yeah, it's called the Cattle, all right, get me right,

I don't know it's way is our boy? Don't I say? If

I al haven't blinked none bove then twice soul listen, but you'll take out

the gattle that doubt of it. Now, I'll love them to the gallows,

the gallows. Come on, let's me am me good knight, cut

your steak green, good knife. See don't oh that dout of home.

Oh get me, oh this thing. I can't control my thoughts. I

just say, if it's really me, when I don't feel thing, really

really red, really Sunday by the the apple, they say, they say,

Then you walk me through the gardens, the god in the garden,

that's me sunthing, and bring your body in some friction because I'm o hi

hi hi loaded out, No, hi hi hi loaded out again Hi hi

hi hi yi. Oh oh oh very nice, very I love that.

I love that nice. If you're just joining us, we have Kenny Troon

live in studio here on the program, and if you have any questions or

feedback or anything at all, uh six o three two five oh six oh

seven, the studio line is open if you want to call and talk to

Kenny six O three two five o six oh seven. You can also text

me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on

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and of course you can interact into opine in the Facebook live chat.

But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet

tones is give us a call at six O three two five oh six o

seven. Jeff W call Cole if I'm saying that correctly, says, I

get it. Bud Jeffy someone you know obviously, Yeah, I love him.

That's my boy, Jeff Run Like Thieves in the chat room says yeah.

Kenny Troon ooh okay, you like that? Yeah, yeah, you

were telling us, uh, if you want to say this again on here

too, This was interesting. How you know how you met Greg? Yeah,

from from Run Like Thieves, Greg Santini, the running drummer. Yes

we uh. I'm from Long Island, New York. Shout out Long Island,

New York. H So you're you're a real New Yorker. I'm a

real New Yorker. I just went to TD Garden last night to see the

Knicks lose to Boston. Yeah, so I've seen the Knicks come to Boston

and twice two losses in a row. But we'll keep going on that.

But Greg, when I move up here, I found this app it's like

Tinder for musicians. It's called Vamper, and I swiped right on Greg.

He swiped right on me, and we matched and it was great. We

didn't go to dinner, but we played. He drove out to Troy,

New York actually on my birthday of last year, and we played a show,

and then after we played he met my band members. He hadn't met

them before the show. He met them after yea, which is great.

But we had a great time. And Greg's the man Greg. Greg fills

in for whenever I play shows up here because most of my band members are

in New York. Yeah, so like when I do stuff up here,

Greg's my go to guy. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's been

a consistent topic on the show about how drummers always play with the different people

because drummers are in such high demand, Like, oh yeah, most of

the drummers I meet, they're in like ten different bands. Oh yeah.

And plus there's like so many singer songwriters who need a drummer right right,

like and bass players too. Basically you need bass players. Those are hard

to come by to. Oh, yeah, sometimes I play bass, And

when I was, yeah, I don't, I don't play anymore. But

when I was out in playing in bands, I was in like four bands

at one point at one time. Yeah, but when you say you don't

play anymore, what does that mean? Like, yeah, I'm just I'm

just still not doing I still could. Yeah, I'm just I'm not active.

And you didn't hit your head and was like, I don't remember how

to play this thing. That would be horrible, that would be no.

No, But although I haven't, I haven't picked up a bass in a

long time. But but yeah, but drummer. My theory about drummers is

when you, you know, if you want to be a drummer, when

you go to have that conversation with your parents about, yeah, I want

to play anstrument, but I don't want to play the drums. Yeah,

you know, either the drums or or the tuba is the other one that

they're probably going to try to talk you out of. Yeah, unless they've

got a good soundproof room right right, dungeon or basement to throw you down

the exactly exactly. Hey, it's better to hear, than making loud noise,

than doing other bad stuff, you know what I mean. So at

least you know what they're doing. You know now what brought you, what

brought you to this area, because you're from Long Island. How long have

you been here? My parents have lived up here since maybe two thousand and

nine or ten, and I stayed in New York. That I didn't go

with them, but I would always visit New Hampshire. I loved it up

here, and it got to a point where nothing was really happening for me

in New York. It was very stressful at very expensive. Yeah, jobs

weren't good, and I don't know. I come up here. I got

a job with Live Nation immediately being a stage hand and being around the music

industry still and actually work also at the SNHU Arena shout out to the bull

Crow Boys. So I'm still in involved with music now and it lets me

do my music as well. On top of that, it's just been great.

I met the love of my life up here. Excellent. Yeah,

so that that's pretty great. And uh, I know, everything's just been

good since I moved up here, and I'm living free and I'm not dead

yet. Yes, so something's gone right. I'm swiping right, swiping right,

matchic on Tinder. I guess what other apps we got out there I

can use. Well, speaking of Greg, I think he's on the line.

Greg. Is that great? Did Greg call it right now? Yeah?

This is great? Hello, gentlemen, how are you hello? We

were we were just talking about you, Hi, Greg? Well, I

had to call him in because Kenny's my boy. He is awesome. So

that's awesome. It's such a fantastic job just now. It was really great,

Kenny, dude. Thanks Greg. We got a jam soon again,

Bob. Absolutely, absolutely. But I just want to give a shout out

to you, Kenny, and also to Long Island, New York. Where

were we both hail from? Kenny and I were also born in the same

hospital, same hospital. Oh no kidding. I'm glad you brought that up

because I was like, we're from the same with the same hospital. Yeah,

it gets deeper to get even deeper. Well, very close, very

cool. Yeah, So I just want to say I just want to say

hello and shout out, and also I just wanted to to give you guys

a little heads up for our show. We're actually doing a contest. You

know Dan is the singer and Run Like Thieves. He is sponsored by Breed

Love Guitar and we're giving away a guitar and I'm putting it out all over

social media on our YouTube channel, and basically what we're doing is asking people

to cover acoustically one of our songs and post it and then whoever we think

is the coolest and the best, we'll get a guitar. Wow, and

we're going to announce the winner at our show January seventh, which I know

you guys, Jen and Matt are going to go to and hopefully Kenny's going

to go to too. Well, I'm gonna win that guitar. Bro,

I'm just letting you know. Ye, you're totally eligible to do it.

I was about to play, am I even eligible for anyone's eligible, even

Jenny. I think Jenny could do it too. I know. No,

that's a great that's a great idea though. That's a great concept. I

like that a lot. That's a cool, cool idea there. Yeah,

yeah, that's gonna be cool to get anyway, I just wanted to say

thanks guys, and thanks again for having us on the other week and Kenny

rock it out, Buddy, thanks Bob, thanks for calling in. All

right, Greg, and we will see you on January seventh, Yes,

absolutely, six o'clock. All right, we'll be there, looking forward to

it, all right, buddy thinks, all right, you got it,

Bye bye, all right. The Great Greg Santini, also known as the

running drummery from the man likes to run from run like thieves. Yeah.

I mean if you're a drummer, you gotta kind of have that endurance anyway.

Yeah. True, you're flailing and the whole hour set or whatever long

and plays. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, the most physical instrument because

you're using all your limbs. And I'm always impressed when I see singing drummers,

which you don't see a lot, at least not on lead votes.

See a lot of that. But I love a good singing drummer. I

think a good example of a singing drummer turned lead singer and turned their back

on drums is the guy from three Doors Down. Did you know that he

drums on the first record? Yeah, I didn't. I just assumed he

still was. I forget his name. I think it's Brad Arnold, Okay,

I think so, But he was the drummer. But then when they

blew up, he was like, I don't play drums anymore. I'm this

singer. Oh I didn't know that. I always assumed he was still playing

drums. Yeah. No, he wants to be out front. Yeah.

I actually did him stage hand for their gig at Meadowbrook and he was,

yeah, he's he's just the front guy now. He's been the front guy

for a while. He abandoned that a while ago. Oh okay, but

yeah with the little Madonna mike. Yeah, I don't know why I called

the Madonna mike, but you know, but yeah, I want to see

some drummers that sing, so greg, start your start singingmore? All right,

if you're still listening. Even in bands that do have singing drummers,

a lot of the time, it's only like part like some songs they might

sing on like they'll split the lead singer. Yeah, yeah, yah,

yeah yeah. But yeah, I'm trying to think of a band where see

I thought three Doors Down, I didn't realize he had a band in the

drums. I'm trying to think of a band where they have a singing drummer

who sings everything was also the lead singer. Okay everything, do you know

Anderson. No, he's a great artist who him and the Free Nationals.

He drums, raps, sings, He's incredible. Oh really yeah, he's

like if you see his Tiny Death concert. Yeah, he's just like in

the middle, like cutting it up, playing the drums flawlessly and just effortlessly.

Oh wow, he's really good. And if you want to go into

like heavier drummers that do the Madonna mic seven dust, do you remember that

band Morgan would do the like and had the Madonna mic go on? Yeah?

Yeah, I like that. I can't think of anyone else off the

top of my head. But yeah, they're out there, and if you're

out there, hit up Matt, hit up me. Let's talk about it.

Call us in this bands Like, oh yeah, but was he another

one that just so I need to be sort of sort of because if you

see the Eagles live, he'll play drums on some things, but then he'll

come up front for others or and somebody else jumps band. But he but

but he's another one who didn't sing on everything, right Yeah, yeah,

like I can't I can't think of an example where the drummer is the leads

full time thing. Yeah, yeah, like in Genesis Phil Collins, he

would you know, he would come up front, you know, he he'd

sing, he'd play drums on a few things, but come up front,

you know. And then he was Genesis one. Uh, Gabes left.

Yeah, and I love Peter Gabriel. He's like one of my favorites.

Yeah. You, by the way, So I didn't know this about you

until somebody mentioned it in the chat room that you play multiple instruments, right,

Yeah, I play drums, bass, guitar, and piano. Wow

sing a rap? I may be. I'm a producer. Yeah, I

produce and engineer and mix all my records. Oh yeah, oh wow.

I went to audio school in two thousand and four in New York City.

Learned everything I need to learn, and uh, just so no one can

tell me what to like what you do. Like, I think I grew

up in a in an era where I was just like a singer in a

band for a while, people trying to tell me what to do, how

to dress. Signing a label with Capitol Records when I'm twenty one and just

dealing with all the behind the scenes stuff like people telling you, oh,

you got to do this, you got to write songs like this you gotta

do. It's like I learned everything myself just so I could make my own

world, make my own universe, because I don't want to play in your

world, dude, Like what I mean, Like yeah, and I hone

my craft for about over twenty years now, so like I love it.

And we're fortunate to live in a time where you can really do that,

you know, like now it's even better for a situation like that, I

own all my stuff. No one owns anything that's excellent. Yeah, I

don't like because that's the thing with these like these deals. When you sign

these deals, they're they're covering your recording costs so all this stuff, and

I'm like taking a huge chunk of that away where it's just like you want

to just pay for marketing or so I don't know, right, but even

then, like Facebook ads these days, Instagram ads, I have like thirteen

hundred followers, but my story only gets like seventy people seeing it. Yeah,

you know what I mean. They want you to pay money, right

right, It's this whole thing where it's like the Wow Wild West where you

got to figure out like new ways to do things. I kind of like

it Yeah, Yeah, it's fresh and absolutely it's really cool. Evan Hilsinger

chat Room says Kenny Troon is the greatest Evan. Evan's my longest running band

member, best friend from high school. We were in a man together,

Oh wow, Yeah, where he played guitar, I was singing. And

then now he's my bass player and I play guitar and it's kind of dope.

Now is he back in New York or he's in New York he's listening

to New York right now, or he could it's the weekend. He could

be at his house in the Poconos. So but but the so the how

often do you play with the band? Because logistically it must be a little

bit of a challenge. Uh, it is. But we're at a point

where we like know each other very well. Like if we get like a

little run like like if I travel to them and we and we're able to

get a little run through for an hour or two before a show, that's

good. Sometimes we don't, but sometimes those shows are the best shows.

Yeah, because everyone's just everyone practices by listening right right, what songs are

we gonna do? Here are the songs? And I'll be like all right,

we'll just show up and we'll leave it there. Yeah, because sometimes

when you practice too much, you're like, you like peak already before you

even get there. You're like, oh, you do it great at the

practice like four times, and then you go to the show and it's not

it's almost like saving that energy to just like No, that totally, that

totally makes sense. I firmly believe in that. I like it loose,

yeah, but enough where there's a format at the show, Yeah, makes

it makes it more exciting. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah,

do you want to do you want to play another song? I'm dying to

hear another song. Okay, I could play a new one that I just

wrote with my uh lovely girlfriend's kids. Now new new as in no one,

no one knows this song really, Oh, very nice. We like

the premiere on the radio, which they'll probably love. Oh, we love

it too. We love the world radio premieres. Yeh here Beatrix and Walter

Saint Pierre helped me write this song. They're in uh second and fourth grade.

Yes, so I'll try this one for them, all right, very

nice little rock turned into human he ate some grats and Guriel tall. But

then he went and had himself some cheese its. He thought, now,

well that is delicious. And they drove off the sunset on an elephant.

And they drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and a fante and

a fante had a fiete, had a fante. They drove into the sunset

as Man and the panda. They showed up to the party with some not

shows and the Rito's and Freido and they went to the nick game, but

they lost to the Celtics. But it was okay because we had a great

time. Then we drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and we

drove off into the sunset on an elephant. They had a fante, had

a fante, had a fineante, and they drove off into the sunset on

an elephant. Very nice. What is it called elephante? I believe I

didn't write those lyrics. They were written by The lyrics are relatable to me

because I also enjoyed cheese its. Yes, And think about being a rock.

You're a rock and then you just explode into a human. You eat

grass, you grow tall, but then you find cheese its and you're like,

wow, this is way different than grass. Yes, it sounds everyone

can relate to it. I feel it could be my next hit. I

would love to send them to trade schools with the money from that, right,

you know what I mean? Not college. We don't want to send

them to college and have them in debt for like fifty grand. We just

want maybe a ten thousand dollars debt and a trade where they can make money.

You know. There you go, I digress, digress If you're just

joining us. Kenny Troon is here with us, alive in studio. Benjamin

Blanger in the chatroom says, get it. Oh, Benny, that's awesome,

and Jay Fat is asking in the chatroom, have you were considered the

possibility of extending the length of your beard? To be honest, my beard

has been huge before. Yeah, covets beards. Yeah yeah, yeah he's

a beard. It's been really big. Yeah. I actually cut my hair

hair. I'll show you my hair is short right now. But yeah,

my hair was super long. Oh really, my beard was really yeah.

I let it go at the pandemic. It was like, I'm not going

to cut it till this is over. And then it didn't end, right,

But uh, two weeks I try to look I try to look a

little more presentable these days. But yeah, yeah, tell him I feel

his I feel him on the beard. I loved my beard. He has

a large beard. Yeah yeah, I could hide snacks in there for later.

It was really good. It was a flavor saver. By the way.

By the way, I'm curious working at the snow Uh do you know

Michael Martino also known as Texas Mic. Maybe if he works? What does

he do at this news I forget what he does there exactly. I mean

he's there, he's there for events. You remember, something to do with

concessions. Maybe, yeah, you may not have you may not have encountered

him. Maybe I've seen him like around. Yeah, definitely, Melanie said,

uh yeah, right, all guys lie and say, you know,

regarding the beard, say it was huge. I swear it was. You'll

find some Google image somewhere of it. We should play another studio track.

We've already played a couple of them earlier in the show, but I'm curious

to Uh, let's see, is there we've got that there's a song that

you sent me that's from a live show, and then there's another studio track.

I'll let you, I'll let you The other studio track is the single

and video I've been promoting called I Don't Think We're Ever Alone. Oh we

should play that then? Yeah, yeah, let's do that. And uh

yeah, this is a great song and can you tell us about it?

Is there a story behind it? Uh? Yeah? I during the pandemic,

I was living in an apartment that turns into a squat because my landlord,

we got served papers right before the pandemic happened where he hadn't been paying

taxes on the house for years. Oh, and they were gonna take it,

and they were like, you guys shouldn't pay him anymore because like you

know what I mean. So we were like okay, But then the pandemic

happened and we were just uh, you know, the power went out,

and then I had this steal power from the public library next door and the

house next door, and then it was a whole thing. Wow. But

I ended up getting out of there and finding a new place. But the

place I moved into a week or two before, someone had overdosed in the

house and they were trying to get someone else to move in. Yeah,

and they didn't tell me that, So I was dealing with all weird spirits

in the house that I moved in. So the song has a lot to

do with the weirdness that was occurring at the new place that I moved into,

where someone had just recently like died in the house. What kind of

weirdness was occurring? Okay, So randomly, I was on the deck and

I was I think I was smoking a cigarette or something, and all of

a sudden, there's a huge fire on the on the deck, Like a

fire just happened. Oh my god, I out of nowhere. I had

to put it out. And then a roommate of mine came out the bathroom

with like blood on him and he wasn't bleeding. It wasn't his blood.

Oh my god. So a lot of things were happening. Yeah, and

uh and yeah, So I feel like I don't think we're ever alone.

Was kind of like, I'm like, yeah, maybe, like even if

we pass on, like we're still here. And like just even if you

feel like there's no one physically there with you, something's up interesting. All

right, Well, let's give this a listen. Oh, by the way,

run like Thieves in the Chat Room says, this song is one of

my favorite Kenny Truon's songs nice, and Melanie says, why were they weird

spirits? That sounds super judgmental. Well, you know when there's blood and

fire. Yeah, if they were cooking me like breakfast, and like you

know, doing other things for me, like doing my laundry, I'd be

like, this ghost is cool, right, A helpful ghost is nice.

You know, that's the kind of ghost. Something strange was the foot at

the circle kve so to speak? You know what I mean? It'd be

nice if you could choose your ghost. Yeah you can't, you definitely can't.

Well, let's give this a listen. So this is Kenny Troon and

this is called I don't think we're ever alone here on Matt Connorton unleashed,

just crept in through the door like a black cat in the shadow. Do

you hear that? You smell that? I think something's burning. The blood

was spilled, loves we lost, smelling slurk within these walls. Something weird

going ding. I don't think we're ever alone, and I don't think we're

ever lone. I don't think where ever, I don't think we're never alone.

I don't think that we I ever know, just fell off the ball

was dead like that now's in the corner. Did you see that leg got

in the chat? No, I don't want to remember the dog Spiels.

Does spears live with their walls? Something weird going up. I don't think

we're ever lone. I don't sit where ever. I don't sick whereever.

I don't think where ever alone. I don't think that we I e A

said, I don't think that we I have a sing. I don't think

that we I. I don't think that we ever enough. I don't take

whereever at home. I don't sit where ever. I don't take clare ever.

I think that we are there for a long that is cool, and

that us have a spooky vibe that is I don't think we're ever alone.

The Great Kenny Truon is here with us, alive in studio. Yee,

the Great Kenny's true. I like the sound of that. Thank you man

absolutely. By the way, run like thieves in the chat room, says

Greg from r LT says that as a retired FDNY fire Marshal, Kenny's cigarette

started that fire case. No. I swear though, because I was on

the other side of the deck and I was like thinking, did I like

arkle Dan? I do? I had, but like, literally, uh

what I I think happened? I want to clarify to the FDNY alumni out

there, Yes, that it was a piece of broken gla mirror on the

ground. Son was hitting the mirror reflect. I swear this is what I

came up with if it wasn't a weird ghost or something killer. But I

was like, and there were like dried leaves hit like hitting the I don't

know, I'm trying. Anything's possible. Greg, can you run that through

your fd N Y machine? Tell me right if that's accurate or that's the

thing that could happen. And this is very nice. Nicole Saint Pierre in

the chat room says, the kids are feeling very famous after hearing you play

there. Yes, that's amazing. Hi, Bob's that's very nice, very

nice. That's great. They they they think I'm famous. It's weird.

Well you are now? Yeah, you get the Matt Connerton unleashed bump.

Yeah. When we went to when we went to the Celtics game, Little

Walt was like, oh, but can we get sit on the floor.

Aren't you famous? I'm like, oh, maybe one day their degrees degrees.

Shout out to them. I'm happy they're listening. And who played a

slide on that song? You mentioned my dude, Josh Honigman playing mean brass

slide on that last song. Is he in your band or he is?

Yeah, he's in my band. We have like a usual suspects list in

my band. There's some altering parts, like Greg will join the band for

like New Hampshire dates when I'm not in New York. You know, stuff

like that. We have like sometimes Maggie will come in and play the sacks

whenever we get Maggie and Maggie had a kid, so Maggie is off for

there a little bit. Yeah, like it changes. So we have Josh

Hanigman right now on guitar or keys, Chris Pachanka on guitar, Evan Hilsinger

on bass, and me on guitar and singing, and then drummers or you

know, drummers are hard to come by. Exactly exactly what was your because

you play multiple instruments, what was your first instrument? My first instrument was

bass because I wanted to join Evan's band. Oh yeah, I didn't know

how to play. I just loved music, and I wanted to be in

the and it was so cool that they had a band, Yeah, in

ninth grade, so I wanted to do it. That's what got you started.

Yeah, well, actually I think I started maybe a little before that,

where I borrowed my friend's bass to play in like a hardcore band.

Oh really, yeah, we were called Savagery. I can't forget this.

Shout out to Nick Voormont, Chris Suarez and Vinnie Roseboom. But we did

that, and then I seriously did a band with Evan where I was playing

bass, but then I moved into the singer spot because we didn't have a

singer, or we did have a singer, but he didn't want to sing,

or he was taking too long on doing the singing when it' sing in

front of us, or like oh well that's a problem. Yeah, And

then we we we did Me and Evan did a little demo of a song

idea where we had you know, those old laptop mics from that were just

on the computer. Yes, so he was in the room while I was

down the hall singing loud and it was like the same volume as it was

just ridiculous. But we did a demo like that where I sang and that

was like kind of when I was like, I think I'm going to be

the singer interesting. So that's that's how that worked out. Did you take

any vocal lessons or are you self taught? I did when I had a

record deal. The label got me a guy Adrian Holtz, which I love

that man. I don't know where he is this day, but it was

in the Lower East Side Manhattan where I would go see him. The label

Legg was like, we need you to have a better voice, and you

need to know you know, they're putting money into you. They want you

to have that. But basically the like, I don't know his his his

studying with him was pretty good. It was like I haven't done it since,

but it was the training I needed things I already knew and felt but

didn't really know how to, like I don't know, put him in a

boy and understand them, yeah, so to speak. But I did have

some vocal training, okay, okay, like twenty one yeah. Yeah,

We've got Kenny trun here. If you have any questions or anything at all

for Kenny six oh three, two five, six seven, the studio line

is open six oh three, two, five, six seven. Can you

talk more about your your experience with being signed to a label, because,

well, for one thing, I'm a music industry nerd, and we talk

about we talk about music industry stuff a lot on you on the show,

and you know, and that's kind of a lot of our listener bases made

up of people who either have experience in that or are active in the music

industry in some way. And I'm curious here. I mean, it sounds

like it it sounds like it ended with you feeling like you wanted to be

able to do everything yourself and be really independent. But I'm curious. You

know, pretty pretty traumatic stuff. I guess for me, it's like my

PTSD stuff. No kid, I was like twenty Yeah, It's like the

whole process of getting a deal was it was so weird. It was like

it was almost like you and you found a Craigslist ad for a producer looking

for a hot new band, and this is like, oh, five,

two thousand and five. So we get a producer and a manager combo from

Craigslist. Producer manager combo, and they're like kind of like grooming us in

a way of like making us look a certain way. And recording us.

Wait, just so I'm clear, So this combo they were advertising and I

don't the drummer found it. I didn't find this all the time, but

like this is how it happened, like they So we got that. We

worked with them for like a pretty long time. Like we we got an

investor, so they I guess the manager and producer would record a demo for

us, get an investor to pay for it, and then the manager used

his contacts to shop it and it and it worked. We had Hollywood Records

come out to see us, took us to dinner after we played the Continental

in New York City. That was great. My mom got a whole school

bus to bring everyone to the city from Long Island, so we packed the

place out. Cool. Yeah, we were We knew what we you know,

we're dealing with. We're having someone come see us and all that,

and you know, eventually, you know, some some of the records,

the labels were what were okay? And I got I hit it off with

the dude from Hollywood Records, Jason Jordan a lot, and uh, we

didn't end up going with him. I think Breaking Benjamin was with him at

the time. Hollywood Records, and uh, we ended up getting flown out

to California to meet with Jamie Feldman and Andy Slater for Capitol Records. So

we we had a audition for the Hall label. So it was a cool

moment for me and the and the guys in the band at that time because

we we show and proved like the Hall labels, like let's make a record.

We were just like wow, is this crazy? Like I was the

front man then. So when we did the performance, I go off the

stage, got in their faces, was doing like, yeah, you know

what I mean. Today I felt like it was a moment in time I'll

never forget, you know what I mean. It was really great. Went

to the Rainbow Room after La where let's all go over're twenty one. But

and then then comes into other stuff where everyone now in the band thinks they

know how to write the hit. I'm just the singer even though I played

guitar and wrote a song like I only wrote like one or two songs where

they let me. Okay the band because the band all things they knew how

to do everything. Yeah, they swamped me an auto tune. I hate

auto tune. There's just like things that were just really hard to deal with.

Yeah, and then after a while it just was really I couldn't express

myself the way I wanted. I was odd man out on little tours we

did where like I wasn't even being friends with them. Really we weren't getting

along. Wow. It was just a lot of things. And I actually

and for that to happen so early and all this, you know, yeah,

I habashed it. I left. Wow. I walked away from it

because it wasn't right. It didn't feel right, and I wasn't there was

like telling me what to where, like the the labels, like tell me

where these like leather pants and like just like all this stuff where I'm just

like they were riding the wave of like the emo wave and five six sure,

yeah seven, And I'm not necessarily I'm from there where a lot of

that music came to, you know, get some notoriety, right, but

like I always felt it was a little different, and I don't know,

it gives me a lot of gave me a lot of grief for a lot

of years, because you want that as an artist, You want to be

on a label you wanted, But then it's not crack up to all,

you know, what I mean. And you know, we're okay on terms

now. Like with that band, we were all young, we didn't know

what the hell was going on. We were all needed to grow and learn,

and it was just, uh, I don't know, because I'm always

trying to make it back to that mountain, but that mountain isn't where I

want to go but to some relevance. I want to get my music out

to the masses. But it's weird in these times. You feel like when

you post stuff, you're a just in the clutter of everyone else's stuff where

it'll get overlooked or you have to pay to play. You gotta pay.

If you don't have the money, it won't talk for you, you know

what I mean. So it's just interesting to me. But that that whole

dealing with the major label was pretty interesting time when you walked away, I

mean, did did they try to get should have stay? Did the label

put any pressure on you to stay? Or how did? How did know?

Because we were signed to the producer and manager who signed to the You

know what I'm saying, You're like not even You're like the puppet in that

aspect then, like you don't control anything. Yeah, you know what I

mean, So it becomes like I don't even know at that point, but

wow, yeah, did the band try to continue without you? Dude?

They did, okay, and I felt like they used all the same contexts

that they had and I don't care because I didn't want to be involved anymore.

They went on, they did a band for a while, and now

they they're not a band like most bands. They're a band till you're not

a band. But I've never stopped. I will say this. I've been

continuing my journey. It's my journey, so it's different from everyone else,

is different from theirs, and I kind of like where I've I've gone.

I've gone to weird places I do. We haven't even touched upon this,

but I have different aliases and characters in different genres of music that I do.

Okay, I have an R and B character named Kenneth Wood. Oh,

yes, I found Kenneth Wood online. See that's me. Okay,

you didn't know because I was wearing glasses. I was a little more suave

looking. Yeah, But I also have a rap alias Snotty Nose, and

I'm in a metal post metal band called as Dark as You. Oh,

that's a cool wow, cool man. Yeah, Like I built like my

own world of genres and music. Like it's my own label of my own

call that weird or narcissistic or anything, but I'm it's pretty. It's my

world that I created, and I really enjoy it. And that's when I

put my life's passion and yeah, yeah do they Is there sort of a

hierarchy in your mind in terms of in terms of priorities. I keep it

loose. I know when it's time to do it's weird. I know when

it's time to like go into one of the other characters and do or like

you know, because I also like to switch it up in music because he

keeps it fun that way. Yeah. So I love it. I love

doing it. Yeah yeah, And I have total control of my own stuff.

So really good, very cool. Yeah, if you're just joining us,

Kenny Truoness here and if you want to, we don't have a lot

of time left, So if you want to get in with the question or

anything at all, give us a call in the studio line six O three

two five six seven. Melanie in the chat room does have a question.

She says, are you still in the Haunted apartment. But obviously no,

no, that was in New York, back in New York. That was

in Patchhog, New York. I don't know if you guys know where Patchhog

is, patch Hoog, but yeah, a fun fact, Billy Idol lived

in Patchhog when he came from uh I think England. Oh really yeah,

and he moved to Long Island in Patchhop very random fact. All right,

yeah, do you want to uh, well, we have some time left.

Do you want to play another live song for us? Yeah, let's

see we got here. I'd love to hear more alive again if you're just

showing us. We have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program.

We'll get another make up there there we go. Okay, this song is

called mark my words? All right, how many days over in a week?

If you could neverly? No, how we'll ever get the Sunday school

long tie Lola knows it. The bus stops right outside of my house.

It takes me out in bay Ya. Well, I'm pretty sure that I

can occupy my lie. Just fine, I'm lie competative. Mark my words,

mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day, we believe

in monanjazz miracle monyjasz miracon, mark my words and mark your calendar. Well,

the day is the day we believe in monanjious miracles. How many people

do we meet in our short existence? Well, our last count about thirty

eight sad years. And go now I know it's at the bus stops right

outside my house. Takes me out of bow. Yeah, well I'm pretty

sure that I can occupy my life. Just fine, I'm alive. Come

to take the thing. Mark my words in mark your calendar. Well,

the day is the day we believe in mons miricle born jus mimicles. Mark

my words and mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day we

believe? Will we believe? We believe? How will I even get to

Sunday school on time? If I never sleep a night, if I never

sleep, how will I even get to Sunday school on time? Time?

Time? Who? Mark my words? Who mark your calendar? Well?

The day is the day we was it even bine? Just mirick yes,

mimicals, mack my words in mom your canender. Well, the day is

the day. Day is the day. Oh my god, what a great

song. Thank you. I love that. That's all. I really appreciate

it. What's the name of that again? That song is called Mark my

Words? Okay, now, is that is that out? Is that available?

That's on my first solo album, No Longer Scared, which is out

on all platforms? Wow? Yeah really really one of the first song not

first, but like one of the earlier songs I've written, okay, like

twenty two thousand and nine, maybe I wrote it? Oh no kidding?

Yeah, yeah, wow that is that is really good, really good.

Really appreciate it absolutely absolutely. We've got Yeah, we've got a femanis left.

If you have any questions or anything at all for Kenny six o three

two five, six o seven, we have Kenny Truon with us alive in

studio. Now, is is everything else? Like, are these as you

described it, these different characters they have in music as? Are they all

easy to find online for people who want to explore all the platforms? Yeah?

Yeah, it's uh if you go to my Instagram Kenny Truon music,

Yeah, the link tree has everything so you can like it's like a treasure

trove of like what is this? Is this the same person? Like?

So it's kind of like, I don't know, I want people to find

my music that way and just like keep digging and me like wait, what

is it? Right? Right? Like how you found it? I found

the link tree and I have been sharing it. Yes, yes, thank

you, Yeah I have. I just came out with I did a merch

drop with Tea Public. I don't know if you guys heard of that website,

but I got a lot of cool merch on my link tree that I

just came out with. This is one of them. This is my album

cover to most of the songs you played on the radio today. Oh okay.

It's called Mangustine. Okay, nice and yeah, So if you guys

want to check out Mangustine, most of the songs that Matt played today,

we're on that album Outstanding. Yeah, we're going into in a couple of

minutes. We're going to close out with I've got my thumb out this live.

Now. Where was this recorded? This was recorded at my drummer's recording

studio at the Coop Live at the Coop Studios in Irvington, New York.

Oh okay, And we did it on my birthday. I drove down to

New York for my friend Sue's wedding shout at Sue and Danielle and then the

next day we went to Irvington and I hired a videographer and we did a

live in studio thing and this song is actually improvised, like kidding. We

got in the room and did it. We were starting to do it,

and then I was like, wait, let's wait till the cameras on and

then let's really do it, because you don't want to give it a waste

of energy, you know what I mean? Right of course, So once

we caught ourselves, we waited till the camera I was done, and then

we like started into that idea we did and what you're about to hear is

that all improvised. Excellent, excellent, And before we do that too.

Where should people go online? Where's the best place to go for people to

keep up with everything that you're doing. I would on Facebook Kenny Troon or

Instagram Kenny Truon music. That's the two most important hubs to find all my

music. YouTube Just look up Kenny Truon. I got a ton of I

got a channel on there, a ton of videos and uh yeah, and

you have an unusual last name, so it's easy to find you. Yeah

t r u H And yes, yes, which Matt has successfully said my

name the whole time without knowing, which is great. Yeah. Yeah,

yeah, I was asking listeners know this, but yeah, I was asking

you off their earlier my senior last name, and it turned out I got

it right. Yeah. I was very happy about it actually talking about it

this morning before we leaf. I hope I'm saying that. I mean,

you don't want to say it wrong, like a bunch of times. I'm

like, oh man, right right, right, like eight times before.

Does anybody ever misspell it? Like have you ever seen it misspelled like on

a poster for a show or something. Yes, I've seen, because if

they've heard my name and they try to write it, I've seen it written

t r u n e. Oh really yeah, because they're like truan like

prune right. Yeah, yeah, I can see it's funny. I can

see where that would happen. Yeah. Yeah, So we'll uh, we'll

play this in a moment, but h for anyone listening, if you missed

any part of today's show, it will be up uh in a little bit

within the hour at w m n H Radio dot organ, at my website

Matt Connorton dot com, and uh, of course next week we've got she's

do you know do you remember offhand when we have next week or do you

have it open? I should have I should have asked you earlier. I

just happened to be that talented that I do happen to be excellent, because

I know we've got a stacked Tom Russo would be joining us as well as

Dark Rain and Vices. Ah, very good, that's all coming up health

on the sixteenth, and of course we'll have Eric Pilcher's classic film review as

well, YadA YadA, So that'll be a that'll be a nice full show.

And then oh no, wait, oh that's the sixteenth today, I

wait, No, today's the ninth. I did give you the right date.

Okay, good, good, excellent. No, you know what it

has to strow me off is that you and I are actually going back to

the Mosaic Art Collection. Oh yes, on the fifteenth for the AI in

Art talk. All right, noon one at five we'll be attending the noon

one on the fifteenth. You know, maybe we'll have a chance to tell

you a little about it on the sixteenth. Yes, absolutely absolutely, And

I'll just remind people too that tomorrow night at seven pm Eastern time. I'll

be appearing on the uh Kevin's Happy Hour podcast Kevin's happy Hour dot com and

you can find me at Jencoffee dot com, j E N N C O

F f U I dot com. And by the way, I said that

wrong, it's Trevor's Happy Hour. I keep I keep getting that mixed up

in my mind. I keep thinking Kevin's. I'm not sure why Trevor's Trevor's

Happy Hour dot com. We'll be discussing the uh Darryl holland John Oates,

Uh backle, that's a Darryl whose house? Daryl, you can't perform my

songs without me. It's such a it's it's all very sad. Yeah,

he's such a man eater. Well you know what, I can't go for

that. Well, well, well say it isn't so all right, we're

out, we're out of time, all right, we that we're gonna play

this. This is I got my thumb out recorded live and this is Kenny

True and Kenny thank you again. So thank you guys for having me.

Absolutely absolutely and check this out and we'll talk to you a little bit later.

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