Matt Connarton Unleashed 4-11-26 hour 1

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1:33 Speaker 2: it is Saturday, April eleven, twenty twenty six, and I'm

1:37 Speaker 2: not alone.

1:45 Speaker 3: Jenny junto Food Morning Sunshine.

1:50 Speaker 2: Jenny is here at the news table, a.

1:52 Speaker 4: Presenton accounted bar. How are you this morning?

1:55 Speaker 2: Good good, We've got a great show for you today.

1:58 Speaker 4: You unexcited.

2:00 Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we're going to be talking

2:01 Speaker 2: to Mickey Lix, a incredibly talented guitar player who's going

2:05 Speaker 2: to be joining us in the second hour. Our friends

2:07 Speaker 2: Day to Attend are going to be here. They've got

2:10 Speaker 2: some new music and there's been some changes with that band,

2:12 Speaker 2: so really looking forward to seeing those guys. If you

2:14 Speaker 2: are watching the video feed of the show, you can

2:17 Speaker 2: see I've got my day to attend shirt on. And

2:19 Speaker 2: of course let's see in the third hour Tyler Laplant,

2:23 Speaker 2: a filmmaker, is going to be here, so kind of

2:25 Speaker 2: changing it up a little bit. Although he may be

2:27 Speaker 2: a musician too, who knows, But a lot of creative people,

2:30 Speaker 2: you know, work in different modalities, but a talented filmmaker.

2:35 Speaker 2: He's got a new short film called Joey's Big Reveal.

2:37 Speaker 2: And I was listening to one of his other interview

2:40 Speaker 2: he had done on another radio show, and just a

2:42 Speaker 2: really interesting guy, so can't wait to meet him from NASHUAE.

2:45 Speaker 2: He's going to be coming in. But again it is

2:49 Speaker 2: for those of you listening live April eleventh, and it's

2:52 Speaker 2: a big day, a big event tonight we should talk

2:54 Speaker 2: about absolutely.

2:56 Speaker 3: Matt and I will be at the Mosaic Aren't Collective

2:58 Speaker 3: from five pm tonight till seven for.

3:00 Speaker 4: The Clear to Me opening exhibit.

3:03 Speaker 3: The gallery is located at sixty six Hanover Street, Swee two.

3:06 Speaker 3: Want it here in the Queen City, so please do

3:09 Speaker 3: come down and see us at the Mosaic Are Collective

3:11 Speaker 3: for the opening reception and visit mosaic Arcollective dot com

3:15 Speaker 3: to find out more fun stuff coming up for the community.

3:19 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a movie night. Maybe you want to put

3:21 Speaker 3: in for the next open call. There are two open

3:24 Speaker 3: calls on the website right now, so if you're an artist,

3:26 Speaker 3: please submit your work and don't let money be a barrier.

3:29 Speaker 3: There are ways to get around that if need be,

3:32 Speaker 3: so please check out mosaic our Collective. Come see mat

3:35 Speaker 3: Nite tonight at the Clear to Me opening opening reception.

3:40 Speaker 2: Why is it called clear to Me? Why is that

3:42 Speaker 2: the name of tonight's exhibit.

3:43 Speaker 4: That is the theme of tonight's show.

3:46 Speaker 3: Every time there's an open call, there's a theme to it,

3:49 Speaker 3: and you do with that as you will as an artist.

3:52 Speaker 3: Whatever speaks to you in whatever form that comes out,

3:56 Speaker 3: and people send in their submissions from all over and

4:00 Speaker 3: that are really talented folks, sort through that, make choices

4:03 Speaker 3: and you see the end result in the exhibit tonight.

4:05 Speaker 4: It is a juried exhibit.

4:07 Speaker 3: So not everything gets it, but it is an incredible

4:10 Speaker 3: way to be able to show your art. I know

4:12 Speaker 3: that I was scared the first time I had a

4:14 Speaker 3: piece of on the wall, and I still get nervous,

4:17 Speaker 3: but It's really amazing to be among so many creative people.

4:20 Speaker 3: It's really good for the soul to just be in

4:24 Speaker 3: community in that way and just be happy with other people.

4:28 Speaker 4: I love it. I the Mosaic Art Collective has.

4:31 Speaker 3: Become a very valuable and important part of my life.

4:34 Speaker 2: Well, and you're an important part of it now too.

4:36 Speaker 3: I am the vice president of the board of directors.

4:39 Speaker 3: Was really honored for them to ask me and that

4:42 Speaker 3: they see in me what they want to bring into

4:44 Speaker 3: the museum. And we have a lot of exciting things

4:47 Speaker 3: coming up to there's a big move coming. I can't

4:49 Speaker 3: tell you too much more about that, but there is

4:52 Speaker 3: a lot going on. It is a great place to

4:54 Speaker 3: be involved. If you are an artist, or you have

4:58 Speaker 3: a budding artist at home, bring them down, come to

5:00 Speaker 3: a community studio where you can being creative with each other,

5:04 Speaker 3: you know, because we do that monthly. We have a

5:07 Speaker 3: community studio where you can come in, you can create

5:09 Speaker 3: with other people. You can show people what you're working on,

5:12 Speaker 3: check out other people. There's always supplies around if you

5:15 Speaker 3: need something to want to work with, and just to

5:18 Speaker 3: be in the gallery. Being creative is just an amazing

5:21 Speaker 3: experience to sit amongst the art and do whatever it

5:24 Speaker 3: is that your hands feel like they want to do.

5:26 Speaker 5: You know, I.

5:29 Speaker 3: Enjoy it a great deal and I hope you do too,

5:31 Speaker 3: So please do come down and check out the Mosaic

5:34 Speaker 3: Are Collective at sixty sixty and over Street, Sweet two

5:36 Speaker 3: oh one. When you come on in, grab the elevator

5:39 Speaker 3: up to the second floor, and you will find.

5:41 Speaker 2: Us well very good, very good, And you're on the

5:44 Speaker 2: website now too.

5:45 Speaker 4: I am on the website now. I actually just found

5:48 Speaker 4: that out.

5:48 Speaker 3: This morning, Yeah, when I was just making sure I

5:51 Speaker 3: knew everything. You know we're gonna be doing too is

5:53 Speaker 3: movie Nights. There's so much good coming on from the gallery.

5:57 Speaker 3: You really should come down tonight to the opening reception,

6:00 Speaker 3: check it out for yourself.

6:00 Speaker 2: And find out more about it, right right, excellent? All right,

6:04 Speaker 2: well very good. So we're gonna go ahead and hit

6:06 Speaker 2: this track. This is the newest single from Mickey Licks again,

6:11 Speaker 2: a very talented guitar player. I can't wait to talk

6:14 Speaker 2: to him and uh and talk to him too about

6:16 Speaker 2: not only some of his uh some of the training

6:19 Speaker 2: that he's had playing guitar, but of course some of

6:21 Speaker 2: the people he works with. Because it's not him singing

6:23 Speaker 2: on the track, but but it is him shredding, So

6:26 Speaker 2: this is really good. I can't wait to talk to

6:27 Speaker 2: Mickey Licks. I believe he's a real New Yorker. I

6:30 Speaker 2: think he's from New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But this

6:32 Speaker 2: is the newest single and then we'll get him on

6:34 Speaker 2: the line via WhatsApp. This is called Persopolis and this

6:37 Speaker 2: is Mickey Licks. That is not not Mickey That is

6:42 Speaker 2: not Mickey Licks, and that is not Persopolis. That's my song. Oops.

6:48 Speaker 2: I can't blame that on a tech issue. That is

6:51 Speaker 2: that was that was one operator error.

6:55 Speaker 4: That was good good, that's so rare, it's funny.

6:57 Speaker 2: That's that's the dance mix of person Oblis by Mickey Liss.

7:02 Speaker 2: All right, here it is, I promise this time.

8:05 Speaker 6: Race fast, job.

8:32 Speaker 7: Nice with something ass.

9:01 Speaker 8: Looking stop praying nights went something as.

9:33 Speaker 7: Six fancy the smart gi y'all.

11:51 Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk over the end of that.

11:53 Speaker 2: That that echo at the end is so cool. That

11:55 Speaker 2: is a persels If I'm saying that correctly, I think

11:57 Speaker 2: I said it wrong earlier. And the artist is Mickey

11:59 Speaker 2: Lick and we've got him on the line with us

12:02 Speaker 2: via WhatsApp. Mickey, are you there?

12:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, I am here.

12:06 Speaker 2: Hell are you good?

12:07 Speaker 5: Good?

12:07 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. I'm excited to talk to you.

12:09 Speaker 2: I love that track. I love I listen to a

12:12 Speaker 2: whole bunch of your stuff online on Spotify. It's all

12:15 Speaker 2: all really good. But that is that is that is fantastic?

12:19 Speaker 2: Am I saying it correctly? Persepolis?

12:22 Speaker 5: Yes?

12:22 Speaker 2: Okay, Well let's start with the really obvious question regarding that.

12:25 Speaker 2: What does that mean?

12:28 Speaker 5: So this song is written about the ancient city and

12:31 Speaker 5: or on?

12:32 Speaker 2: Okay, the theme I've.

12:33 Speaker 5: Been taking with my music is just writing about history.

12:37 Speaker 5: Oh love history.

12:39 Speaker 9: So for me, you know, when writing this song, I

12:42 Speaker 9: wanted to write about something agent, but I didn't want

12:45 Speaker 9: to go so obvious. I wanted to tell a story

12:47 Speaker 9: that was maybe not so told.

12:50 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, interesting, Yeah, because I I noticed Sue from

12:54 Speaker 2: you know, watching your videos and watching the video for that,

12:59 Speaker 2: it definitely uh has that, you know, in terms of

13:01 Speaker 2: the imagery, has that vibe. I was thinking about it too.

13:03 Speaker 2: You know, I'm old enough to remember, you know, when

13:06 Speaker 2: I was growing up and MTV was still a thing.

13:08 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes major artists would make these these uh,

13:12 Speaker 2: these videos that look like they cost a million dollars

13:14 Speaker 2: to make, and now with the technology that we have,

13:17 Speaker 2: you know, you can do something that looks like it

13:19 Speaker 2: costs a million dollars but but obviously it didn't. But uh,

13:24 Speaker 2: but the video, I guess that's my long winded way

13:27 Speaker 2: of saying. The video for that is really cool and

13:29 Speaker 2: I definitely think it. It goes with what you're trying

13:32 Speaker 2: to put across with the song. And now that that's

13:36 Speaker 2: cool that you that you write from a specific because

13:38 Speaker 2: I too, I noticed like you, you know, you've got

13:40 Speaker 2: a song called Gates of Buddha, for example. I notice

13:42 Speaker 2: you seem to to write from that perspective of wanting

13:45 Speaker 2: to do something. I don't know who else does that necessarily,

13:49 Speaker 2: at least as consistently as you are writing about history

13:52 Speaker 2: with their music. But I think that's really interesting.

13:55 Speaker 5: Well, thank you, I appreciate it.

13:56 Speaker 4: I mean it's for me.

13:57 Speaker 9: History is one of my biggest passions music of course,

14:01 Speaker 9: so it's really fun to combine it too.

14:04 Speaker 2: Right, No, that's great, that's great. Now who is that

14:06 Speaker 2: singing on that? Because I noticed it. It looks like

14:08 Speaker 2: that's someone you collaborate with a lot, right. The vocalist

14:11 Speaker 2: on that yeah.

14:12 Speaker 9: So that's Jill Joya. She was in Trance siberianal Chestra.

14:16 Speaker 9: She was on CBS's rock Star with Tommy Lee. Oh

14:20 Speaker 9: she sank back up for like a million artists. I think,

14:23 Speaker 9: like any third I blind.

14:26 Speaker 5: I think the list goes on.

14:27 Speaker 2: Okay, So she's a heavy, heavy hitter. She's a serious person.

14:30 Speaker 2: How did you How did you come to work with her?

14:32 Speaker 2: How did that come about?

14:34 Speaker 5: Uh? Well, crazy enough. She's actually my stepmom, So I'm

14:38 Speaker 5: no kidding. It works out really nicely.

14:40 Speaker 2: Oh that's perfect. Yeah, that's fantastic. So, uh you I

14:46 Speaker 2: assume you grew up you grew up in Wang Island.

14:48 Speaker 2: Is that correct?

14:50 Speaker 5: Yes? I grew up a long island still live here.

14:52 Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, And so obviously you grew up surrounded by musicians.

14:56 Speaker 2: I assume, yes, that is true. Okay, very good. So

14:59 Speaker 2: when did you start playing guitar? Because I suspect you

15:02 Speaker 2: started at a really young age.

15:05 Speaker 5: I actually didn't. I started at twelve.

15:10 Speaker 2: Twelve okay, fairly young.

15:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, fairly young, and then just kind of went

15:14 Speaker 5: from there.

15:15 Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it something that you picked up quickly?

15:19 Speaker 9: I would say, I mean it's it's in the family.

15:21 Speaker 9: So I think for me, it just kind of came

15:24 Speaker 9: a little bit more natural than other things. Sure, you know,

15:28 Speaker 9: not everything for everyone is easy, right, So it's like

15:30 Speaker 9: certain things you try, you just just it just doesn't

15:33 Speaker 9: play right, right, I have to really try.

15:35 Speaker 5: But with a guitar, I found it. It really sat

15:38 Speaker 5: comfortable with me.

15:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's that's great. I wish I had been

15:42 Speaker 2: like that. So when I was a kid, I started

15:44 Speaker 2: out on guitar. I took guitar lessons, but unfortunately I

15:48 Speaker 2: was one of those lazy kids that if I wasn't

15:50 Speaker 2: good at something quickly enough, I would give up on it.

15:52 Speaker 5: So I think we all have that.

15:57 Speaker 2: With some things. Yeah, but that's how I ended up

15:59 Speaker 2: being a bass player. And bass players hate when I

16:01 Speaker 2: say this, but it's just the truth. So I got discouraged.

16:05 Speaker 2: I kind of hit a wall. I plateaued with the guitar.

16:07 Speaker 2: But then when I picked up a bass for the

16:08 Speaker 2: first time, which really wasn't until high school, I was like, oh,

16:12 Speaker 2: two less strings and I don't have to know any chords.

16:14 Speaker 2: I think I found my instrument and then I and

16:17 Speaker 2: then I ended up playing in a bunch of bands

16:19 Speaker 2: and everything playing bass. But I turned out to be

16:21 Speaker 2: kind of okay at bass. But but I so I

16:24 Speaker 2: always admire and respect people who have the discipline to

16:28 Speaker 2: start an instrument and then you know, really see it

16:30 Speaker 2: through and get get really really good at it. When

16:34 Speaker 2: you started at twelve years old, was your goal to be?

16:36 Speaker 2: I don't know if shredder is maybe an outdated term

16:39 Speaker 2: or maybe it's not, but was that always really uh

16:45 Speaker 2: what you know?

16:45 Speaker 5: Because so I grew up playing ice hockey.

16:49 Speaker 9: Yeah, so guitar was never my passion until maybe I

16:53 Speaker 9: was fourteen, Okay, Like so for me, I was like, oh,

16:57 Speaker 9: this is just fun, but I'm still playing hockey.

17:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then but I got you know, I got injured.

17:03 Speaker 5: Time happens.

17:04 Speaker 9: And then the more I played guitar, the more I

17:07 Speaker 9: fell in love with it. And you know, growing up,

17:10 Speaker 9: my dad was a shredder. Okay, he's been like he's

17:13 Speaker 9: raised on that stuff. You know, he's he's he's my

17:17 Speaker 9: inspiration for that cool.

17:18 Speaker 5: So it was in the house and.

17:21 Speaker 9: Then I just kind of as my journey went along,

17:25 Speaker 9: I started just doing more shred stuff and really fall

17:28 Speaker 9: in love with it. But I did grow up on

17:30 Speaker 9: stuff like Van Halen where it's it's not technically shred

17:34 Speaker 9: but you know, it's rock playing. But then I would

17:36 Speaker 9: listen to the bands like Santa Cruz or Falling in Reverse,

17:40 Speaker 9: which at the time the guitar players were shredders.

17:44 Speaker 5: Yes, and you know you hear that and it's just like.

17:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Who's who would you say is your

17:52 Speaker 2: biggest I mean, obviously your dad is a big influence

17:54 Speaker 2: on you in terms of that, but like who would

17:57 Speaker 2: you say? You know you mentioned van Halen, Like do

17:59 Speaker 2: you is there is there kind of a someone who

18:02 Speaker 2: stands out above all of them in terms of influence.

18:07 Speaker 9: Well, I think as a lot of guitar players, I

18:10 Speaker 9: think Eddie is always the main. Without Eddie, none of

18:15 Speaker 9: this is possible, at least I don't think so. I

18:18 Speaker 9: don't think a lot of this goes this far besides Eddie,

18:23 Speaker 9: because I feel like he's always the big choice.

18:26 Speaker 5: I have a few I have. I taught under Jackie

18:29 Speaker 5: Vincent for about two years.

18:32 Speaker 9: Okay from Falling Reverse, and he's he's just a super

18:37 Speaker 9: nice dude, great player, great musician.

18:41 Speaker 5: Him. Paul Gilbert I was always big on Vea Monstein.

18:47 Speaker 9: Of course, yes, I got to learn from him a

18:50 Speaker 9: bit because I did a tour opening for him last

18:54 Speaker 9: summer and yeah, yeah, and it just got you know,

18:58 Speaker 9: get to see him play every night, and it's just like, Okay,

19:02 Speaker 9: this is serious.

19:02 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that's really cool. It's funny. I remember growing up,

19:07 Speaker 2: my friends and I used to argue about how what

19:09 Speaker 2: the correct way to pronounce his name.

19:10 Speaker 5: Is wins like a few ways.

19:17 Speaker 2: No, that's really cool though, that you got to tour

19:19 Speaker 2: with him. Who so, so who else have you? Well,

19:22 Speaker 2: how did you so Jackie Vincent? You said, like, is

19:25 Speaker 2: he kind of a mentor to you? It sounded like

19:26 Speaker 2: it sounds like you have to spend a lot of

19:28 Speaker 2: time with him, right, Yes.

19:30 Speaker 9: Uh so I took lessons with him for a long time. Okay,

19:34 Speaker 9: but not only just being a student, just being friends.

19:38 Speaker 9: Like he's he's a super cool dude.

19:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, he came on to one.

19:42 Speaker 5: Of my tracks and did like a guest solo and yeah,

19:47 Speaker 5: he's honestly, he's just a sweetheart and just really helped develop.

19:52 Speaker 2: What I was, you know, going for sure, sure in

19:57 Speaker 2: terms of you know, learning how to play, how to

20:00 Speaker 2: play fast, how to shred. I mean, what's kind of

20:03 Speaker 2: the most important thing because I've always so for me

20:06 Speaker 2: as someone who who can play a little bit of guitar.

20:09 Speaker 2: But like I said, I told you my journey with

20:11 Speaker 2: that and how derailed it it became. But I've always

20:16 Speaker 2: been under the impression the best way to do it.

20:19 Speaker 2: Tell me if this was your experience is you just learn.

20:22 Speaker 2: You just learn everything technical that you can, and then

20:26 Speaker 2: you just what's the expression, I've heard different variations of it,

20:29 Speaker 2: but slow is steady steady as fast, meaning first you

20:34 Speaker 2: learn how to do it, like anything that you learn

20:36 Speaker 2: in life. First you learn how to do it correctly.

20:39 Speaker 2: Don't worry about doing it fast, just worry about doing

20:42 Speaker 2: it right and doing it as efficiently and effectively as

20:45 Speaker 2: you can, and then speed just comes. Speed comes over

20:49 Speaker 2: time once you learn how to do it correctly. And

20:52 Speaker 2: my assumption, as someone who never learned how to shred,

20:56 Speaker 2: is that that's how you learn how to shred. First,

20:58 Speaker 2: you learn how to play as you know all the

21:01 Speaker 2: technical stuff, and then the speed comes over time. Or

21:04 Speaker 2: am I wrong about that? Are there specific techniques that

21:07 Speaker 2: that you have to use to learn to play fast?

21:11 Speaker 10: No?

21:12 Speaker 9: I think that's perfect. I think it's exactly that you

21:14 Speaker 9: have to build it right. You don't just get from

21:17 Speaker 9: zero to one hundred. Yeah, you know you have You

21:19 Speaker 9: have to think of it like even if you're driving

21:20 Speaker 9: a car, right, if you want to get on that gass.

21:24 Speaker 5: It's a it's a you know. Yeah, it takes a

21:26 Speaker 5: build up. It doesn't just go from zero to one hundred.

21:29 Speaker 5: But uh.

21:31 Speaker 9: The only like thing I usually say for people who

21:34 Speaker 9: want to get into it is, well, one, you have

21:38 Speaker 9: to be friends of the metronome even if even if

21:41 Speaker 9: it's annoying, you have.

21:42 Speaker 5: To like it. It is what it is. You'll be

21:44 Speaker 5: hearing it for the rest of your life. Right.

21:47 Speaker 9: Two, if you're gonna get into the shrid guitar stuff,

21:52 Speaker 9: the most important thing to learn is scales, okay, because

21:56 Speaker 9: most of what it is is scales.

21:59 Speaker 5: Yes I shouldn't say most, but a lot of it

22:03 Speaker 5: is scales.

22:03 Speaker 9: It's combining scales, using multiple just doing maybe three or

22:08 Speaker 9: four notes from one scale.

22:10 Speaker 5: It's all about that, okay. So if you want to

22:13 Speaker 5: be able to really rip, that's your founded.

22:15 Speaker 2: True okay, Okay, that's good advice, good advice, And so

22:21 Speaker 2: tell us about so the first single Defiance that was

22:24 Speaker 2: the debut single, right you're first single that you officially released,

22:27 Speaker 2: and then that that did really well, right, ten k

22:29 Speaker 2: plus on YouTube? And I mean you were starting out.

22:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really happy that.

22:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. I mean did you expect to

22:37 Speaker 2: have such early success with it?

22:40 Speaker 10: No?

22:40 Speaker 5: No, no, I I was really young at the time,

22:44 Speaker 5: so I just put it out, yeah, no winging a prayer.

22:47 Speaker 2: How old were you when you put it out?

22:49 Speaker 5: I think I was sixteen?

22:50 Speaker 11: Wow?

22:51 Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah?

22:53 Speaker 2: What do you think, like, what do you attribute the

22:54 Speaker 2: early success and attention to. I mean, obviously you're doing

22:57 Speaker 2: something right at sixteen, you've already got you know that

23:00 Speaker 2: for a single right out of the gate, you're having

23:01 Speaker 2: success with it online. But I mean what what do

23:03 Speaker 2: you attribute that too? Is is there something about about

23:06 Speaker 2: it that you think just really connected with people?

23:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I don't really know.

23:11 Speaker 12: Yeah.

23:12 Speaker 5: Maybe it was just right time, right place, you know.

23:15 Speaker 2: Yeah.

23:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I'm just I'm grateful it went how

23:18 Speaker 9: it went. Absolutely, I wouldn't really know. Maybe it was

23:22 Speaker 9: just yeah, maybe it was just right for the time.

23:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, apparently. And what does that song represent to

23:27 Speaker 2: you personally?

23:28 Speaker 5: Like?

23:29 Speaker 2: Why is it called defiance?

23:33 Speaker 9: I'd have to let me think, because I think at

23:36 Speaker 9: the time it was just like I was young, right, yeah,

23:40 Speaker 9: And I think when you're a young kid and you're

23:43 Speaker 9: trying to make it in something, there's going to be.

23:46 Speaker 5: A lot of hate you get.

23:47 Speaker 9: Yeah, right, yeah, and I you know, I hate to

23:50 Speaker 9: be that whole Well, a lot of people parted me

23:52 Speaker 9: at the time because now, but you know, as a

23:55 Speaker 9: sixteen year old navigating this career and you know, thirty

24:00 Speaker 9: years ago, there wasn't social media, right, so people weren't

24:03 Speaker 9: going on slashers post doone, dude, you suck.

24:06 Speaker 5: But you know as a sixteen year old, do you

24:09 Speaker 5: get that quite a lot.

24:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different world.

24:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think it was just kind of maybe

24:14 Speaker 9: learning to deal with that and be like, all right,

24:17 Speaker 9: I'm my own thing.

24:19 Speaker 5: I'm strong in what I do. And I think it

24:22 Speaker 5: was just like all right, we're gonna name it that.

24:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that's cool. And I think that

24:27 Speaker 2: you know, because we live and people might take something

24:30 Speaker 2: from this that's valuable, is you know you really just

24:33 Speaker 2: the best thing to do is just be yourself in

24:36 Speaker 2: terms of what you do creatively and how you choose

24:38 Speaker 2: to express it. I don't work, don't worry about the critics,

24:41 Speaker 2: and the you know, the people who aren't gonna like you,

24:43 Speaker 2: because you know, I'm old enough to remember, you know,

24:45 Speaker 2: when we didn't have social media and all of this,

24:48 Speaker 2: and you know, it is a different world and you

24:50 Speaker 2: get instant feedback and no matter what you do, there's

24:53 Speaker 2: going to be haters, you know, so you have to

24:55 Speaker 2: just embrace that. And you know, hey, at least the

24:58 Speaker 2: haters are paying attention you, you know, even if the

25:01 Speaker 2: haters are watching your music video while you're still getting

25:03 Speaker 2: those clicks. So you know, there's always gonna be people

25:06 Speaker 2: who love you and people who hate you, and just

25:08 Speaker 2: you know, you got to embrace all of it.

25:10 Speaker 5: And I always think it's like a ninety ten or

25:13 Speaker 5: like a ninety five five rule.

25:14 Speaker 4: Right yeah, like.

25:17 Speaker 5: I hate you get the rest is loves exactly.

25:21 Speaker 9: Just who cares, you know, And you know it's a

25:24 Speaker 9: keyboard warrior. You're gonna argue with the keyboard warrior.

25:27 Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly. I think that's a very healthy way

25:30 Speaker 2: of looking at it and thinking about it. Also, so

25:33 Speaker 2: tell me about Holy Mother. You're you're also in this.

25:36 Speaker 2: You don't just do solo work as Mickey Mickey Licks.

25:40 Speaker 2: You've got this band Holy Mother that was Oh you

25:43 Speaker 2: are okay?

25:44 Speaker 5: Yeah? I left in fall.

25:47 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay. What happened.

25:50 Speaker 5: Just creative differences, just felt it was better to go

25:54 Speaker 5: my own.

25:54 Speaker 2: Way, okay, okay. How long were you in the band?

25:58 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say three years.

25:59 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you were there for a while.

26:01 Speaker 13: Yeah.

26:01 Speaker 2: And is it true that you did a tour? You

26:04 Speaker 2: toured North America and also you went to Europe opening

26:07 Speaker 2: for Doropesh.

26:09 Speaker 5: I toured in Europe?

26:10 Speaker 2: Oh you did?

26:11 Speaker 5: Okay?

26:11 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, now that must have been That must have

26:14 Speaker 2: been cool. What was that like opening for Doro Pesh

26:16 Speaker 2: because she's kind of kind of a legend, you know.

26:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was really cool. Definitely.

26:22 Speaker 9: I mean it's it's always great to play Germany, you know.

26:25 Speaker 9: I look forward to the times in the future, but

26:28 Speaker 9: the fans are always great. I always love the culture.

26:32 Speaker 2: So yeah, I really dig it, no doubt, no doubt.

26:35 Speaker 2: So is are you Are you in another band now

26:39 Speaker 2: or are you strictly are you focused on releasing music

26:42 Speaker 2: as Mickey Lix?

26:43 Speaker 9: Well, so I'm I do the Mickey Licks band, right,

26:47 Speaker 9: but I also I work with a singer named Andrew. Okay,

26:50 Speaker 9: she's a Greek like power metal singer. Oh, so I've

26:53 Speaker 9: gotten lucky enough to tour all over with her. I've

26:56 Speaker 9: done my most work probably with her. Oh wow, that's

27:00 Speaker 9: what I opened with ing Bay with her, opened for

27:05 Speaker 9: Dave Ellison of Mega Deaths.

27:08 Speaker 7: Uh.

27:09 Speaker 5: We did our own like solo headlining tour and there.

27:12 Speaker 5: You know, there's always more in the works.

27:14 Speaker 9: But it's been a really really fun project, met some

27:17 Speaker 9: really cool people with it, and yeah, that that I

27:21 Speaker 9: have such a blast with.

27:22 Speaker 2: Oh, that's really cool. That's amazing. And then so you're

27:26 Speaker 2: still do you have any plans to Uh, you're still

27:28 Speaker 2: living in Long Island, right, so do you have any

27:30 Speaker 2: plans to to you know, I don't know, go to

27:33 Speaker 2: Hollywood or something or what na stick around where you

27:37 Speaker 2: are at all.

27:40 Speaker 5: I'm not you know, this is what I'll say. I

27:43 Speaker 5: think being from the East Coast, no shot, not gonna happen. Yeah, yeah,

27:49 Speaker 5: you know, I've been to l A two times now.

27:52 Speaker 5: It's cool, but it's just not my thing, you know.

27:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're I mean, you know, the traffic is

27:59 Speaker 2: terrible either place, right, So.

28:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's true. I mean, by me, it's not horrible.

28:05 Speaker 2: That's good.

28:06 Speaker 9: It's not like New York City traffic, right yeah, yeah,

28:09 Speaker 9: but yeah, I don't know if I could be in

28:12 Speaker 9: that lifestyle.

28:13 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's not it doesn't feel genuine to me.

28:17 Speaker 2: Right right. Well that's also a very healthy way of

28:21 Speaker 2: thinking about it, I think. So that's good. That's good. Yeah. No,

28:25 Speaker 2: I like the Northeast. Obviously I still live here, so yeah, absolutely.

28:30 Speaker 2: So what's kind of the So what's next for you?

28:32 Speaker 2: You've got a lot going on. Do you have Well,

28:37 Speaker 2: Persepolis is relatively new, right as a single that that

28:39 Speaker 2: came out recently?

28:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, I came out. I think it's been like two

28:44 Speaker 5: and a half three weeks.

28:45 Speaker 2: Oh, so it's really new. Yeah. So do you do

28:47 Speaker 2: you have another single that you're getting ready to release

28:51 Speaker 2: soon or what's what's kind of next?

28:54 Speaker 5: Yes, I do, so. I don't want to like give

28:58 Speaker 5: away too much.

28:59 Speaker 9: Okay, I'll give away like a little. So we have

29:02 Speaker 9: a we have a new release coming out in early May. Okay,

29:07 Speaker 9: another metal track, history metal. Oh but this time it's

29:12 Speaker 9: written about a story here in the States, which is

29:15 Speaker 9: the first song we're gonna be doing about that. Oh,

29:19 Speaker 9: and I think it's intrigued comes fun in time for

29:22 Speaker 9: America's two fifty.

29:24 Speaker 5: So okay, I'm really I'm really stoked about it.

29:26 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm very intrigued. I'm very intrigued. Well, when

29:30 Speaker 2: it's when it's ready, you'll have to send that to

29:32 Speaker 2: us because we'd love to play it here absolutely, And

29:35 Speaker 2: and will it be your your uh it is funny

29:37 Speaker 2: about well will it be your stepmom singing on it?

29:39 Speaker 5: It will be. Yeah, So she's handled all the duties

29:42 Speaker 5: with that. Okay, I'm not I'm not a power metalle singer.

29:45 Speaker 5: I can't do that.

29:47 Speaker 2: There is there is one song you sing on though, right,

29:50 Speaker 2: what is it? Fight You? Is that the song?

29:54 Speaker 5: Yeah?

29:54 Speaker 6: Yeah?

29:55 Speaker 5: So we did a few last year. We did a

29:58 Speaker 5: few like pop rock.

30:00 Speaker 2: Tracks, okay, yeah, and you know what, they're not so

30:03 Speaker 2: I They're.

30:04 Speaker 9: Not available anymore because I'm trying to, like, you know,

30:08 Speaker 9: get this power metal brand and going. And I was like,

30:10 Speaker 9: I feel like these probably don't help it. But I'm

30:14 Speaker 9: still gonna upload them like sometime in the future. But

30:19 Speaker 9: I released three pop rock tracks and yeah, I did

30:22 Speaker 9: sing on them.

30:23 Speaker 5: I love the tracks. Yeah, I just don't think it

30:25 Speaker 5: fits what I'm doing now.

30:26 Speaker 2: Okay, So, but I.

30:28 Speaker 9: Think it's great because it kind of like I got

30:32 Speaker 9: to learn with these tracks how to really craft the hook, right,

30:38 Speaker 9: So I was able to kind of take that training

30:41 Speaker 9: and then put it over to what I'm doing now,

30:43 Speaker 9: which has been like it's like all right, great. So

30:45 Speaker 9: they they serve their purpose and you know, they'll still

30:48 Speaker 9: be out there so people can find them. But I

30:51 Speaker 9: think I put them off Spotify and everything because like,

30:56 Speaker 9: you know, kill the metal stuff.

30:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, I found I found on YouTube and I checked

31:00 Speaker 2: out the video and I was like, oh, that's cool.

31:02 Speaker 2: I like it, and but I noticed right away it

31:03 Speaker 2: was different from your other stuff, but it is you know,

31:06 Speaker 2: it is very very very catchy, and it's a fun

31:08 Speaker 2: I like the video. It's fun.

31:11 Speaker 5: We had fun.

31:12 Speaker 2: Who's who's the the older gentleman in the video with

31:15 Speaker 2: the gray hair. Who's who sits at the drums at

31:16 Speaker 2: one point?

31:18 Speaker 5: So that is our drummer, Steve O his dad.

31:24 Speaker 2: That's his dad who comes in and sits down at

31:26 Speaker 2: the drum set.

31:27 Speaker 9: Okay, you know with what we do, it's very like

31:32 Speaker 9: very family reacted. Yeah, right, like everybody's into it, like

31:37 Speaker 9: nobody's like nobody has anyone who's.

31:39 Speaker 5: Like, nah, that's stupid.

31:41 Speaker 9: Because my dad is like, he's super helpful me and

31:45 Speaker 9: you know, I always bounce a lot of ideas off him.

31:48 Speaker 5: He's just great for this stuff. And then our drummer's dad, Steve, well,

31:52 Speaker 5: his name is Nick the Dada.

31:55 Speaker 9: He's super helpful, super supportive. So we're really that we

32:00 Speaker 9: have family who will support us with this.

32:04 Speaker 2: Oh that's great and having a Yeah, having a supportive

32:08 Speaker 2: family makes all the difference. And and you know, like

32:10 Speaker 2: I said too, I mean, you know, we talked about

32:12 Speaker 2: it a little bit. You grew up in a great

32:13 Speaker 2: situation there with your family in terms of what you're

32:17 Speaker 2: doing now for a career. And I think I think

32:19 Speaker 2: that's uh, I think that's amazing. Well, Mickey Lix, this

32:23 Speaker 2: has been wonderful. Like I said, I can't wait to

32:24 Speaker 2: hear the new single when it comes out, and we'll

32:27 Speaker 2: be happy to play it here.

32:28 Speaker 5: Uh.

32:29 Speaker 2: We did open with uh Persepolis. I was thinking about

32:33 Speaker 2: closing our conversation with Gates of Buddha, another great track.

32:38 Speaker 2: What do you Unless there's something else you'd prefer we

32:41 Speaker 2: play to close out the segment, but you know, I

32:43 Speaker 2: like to bookend the segment with some music.

32:46 Speaker 5: So I think it is perfect. Yeah, that's a great choice.

32:50 Speaker 2: So tell us about that one.

32:52 Speaker 5: Uh So this song.

32:55 Speaker 9: Is written about the scene to Buddha in sixteen six. Okay,

32:58 Speaker 9: So last summer, when opening for en Bay, I went

33:03 Speaker 9: to Hungry. I've been before, love love the country, but

33:08 Speaker 9: it was my first time in Budapest.

33:10 Speaker 5: Oh, never been to Budapest. And I didn't have much

33:13 Speaker 5: time in Budapest.

33:14 Speaker 9: I had the gig and then the whole band woke

33:19 Speaker 9: up early the next morning just to be tourists until

33:22 Speaker 9: like I'm gonna say, like twelve or one o'clock because

33:26 Speaker 9: then we had to we had to haul to Greece

33:29 Speaker 9: because they're like, all right, we have a show in

33:31 Speaker 9: Greece the next day. So looking at a map, that

33:34 Speaker 9: was about like a nine ten hour drive. Yeah, like

33:37 Speaker 9: that was in a short drive that we did. So

33:42 Speaker 9: you know, I didn't get to spend too much time

33:43 Speaker 9: in Budapest, right, Yeah, But from what I did get

33:47 Speaker 9: to see, I was really into it.

33:49 Speaker 5: There was just the beautiful churches, beautiful scenery. The people

33:54 Speaker 5: were just great.

33:55 Speaker 9: I really liked the fans, like you know this, there's

33:59 Speaker 9: certain countries I think you fold near and deer right

34:03 Speaker 9: to like how they react to music.

34:05 Speaker 5: So like I've always been, I've always obviously been a.

34:08 Speaker 9: Big fan of the German fans. They're really into the music.

34:12 Speaker 9: But I've also always been into Eastern European fans. There's

34:15 Speaker 9: just a certain energy they bring that I just haven't

34:19 Speaker 9: seen anywhere else. But I felt in Hungry they were

34:23 Speaker 9: very appreciative, even the staff working, Like when I walked

34:28 Speaker 9: in the building, they were super friendly. They you know,

34:32 Speaker 9: they were talking to me about other projects that I've

34:34 Speaker 9: been in, so you know, as an artist, it just makes.

34:38 Speaker 5: You like it's super heartwarming. It's like, really, you've heard.

34:42 Speaker 9: Of it, and like even I've had people that were like, oh,

34:46 Speaker 9: I saw you when you played here, and I saw

34:48 Speaker 9: you when you played.

34:49 Speaker 5: Here, So getting back to where I was, so I

34:56 Speaker 5: had a really good experience there. I really enjoyed its.

35:00 Speaker 9: So when I started doing this power metal stuff, I've

35:04 Speaker 9: always been in the power metal but starting to write

35:07 Speaker 9: this stuff, I came up with the song which was

35:10 Speaker 9: Gates Buddho wrote the whole song, but I didn't know

35:13 Speaker 9: what it was going to be about.

35:15 Speaker 5: I had no clue. I just knew it was going

35:18 Speaker 5: to be about a battle, and that's it.

35:21 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I started doing my studying of what I

35:24 Speaker 9: thought maybe all right, so testing out different ideas, and

35:29 Speaker 9: then I started to kind of get into the CG

35:31 Speaker 9: Vienna a bit. But the Cgvna is something that's very popular,

35:35 Speaker 9: Like a lot of people know about the seas of Vienna,

35:38 Speaker 9: a lot of people know about the wing Cisars. So

35:42 Speaker 9: for me, I was like, all right, let's shift same war,

35:47 Speaker 9: different battle, and then that's where Buddha clicks. Where I

35:51 Speaker 9: was like, ah, okay, because just a quick geography lesson,

35:55 Speaker 9: because I love geography. Budapest is separated by the Danu, right,

36:02 Speaker 9: so the north of the city I might get I

36:04 Speaker 9: might get this wrong, so people could correct me if

36:06 Speaker 9: if I long the north of the city is Buddha,

36:10 Speaker 9: and then the south of the city is Pest and

36:13 Speaker 9: then they just combined it. But so the north of

36:18 Speaker 9: the city Buddha is where all the historic stuff is.

36:21 Speaker 9: It's where Castle Hill is, where.

36:23 Speaker 5: It's mentioned in the song. That's where Buddha Castle is.

36:27 Speaker 5: So that's the siege of Buddha.

36:29 Speaker 2: Okay, right, and that real thing.

36:31 Speaker 9: So I really loved the story of how you know,

36:35 Speaker 9: in history, this stuff gets conquered, it's gets claimed it happens.

36:41 Speaker 5: But I really enjoyed the story of nationality and a

36:45 Speaker 5: group of people trying to reclaim.

36:48 Speaker 9: What was theirs right, right, and so they've came closed,

36:52 Speaker 9: but they failed a lot of times. But it was like,

36:55 Speaker 9: after one hundred and fifty years, they finally got what

36:58 Speaker 9: was theirs back, okay. And I thought that was such

37:00 Speaker 9: a interesting story, you know. And you know, I think

37:06 Speaker 9: with this you get a little risky because there is

37:09 Speaker 9: religion involved. But you know, like I, like I've said

37:13 Speaker 9: to millions of people who have had this question, it's

37:16 Speaker 9: just talking about history.

37:17 Speaker 5: There's no religious prejudice. I love everybody, you know what

37:21 Speaker 5: I mean. But it's just such an interesting story and

37:25 Speaker 5: I think it's a story that needs to be told.

37:27 Speaker 5: And that's why when the song released, it was so cool.

37:31 Speaker 9: To see the outpouring of Hungarian fans who just came

37:34 Speaker 9: out of the old work.

37:35 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, you gotta see this.

37:38 Speaker 2: Oh that's really cool, that's really cool. That's amazing. Okay, well,

37:42 Speaker 2: very good. So we're gonna share that with everybody in

37:44 Speaker 2: just a moment. But before we let you go, Mickey,

37:46 Speaker 2: where's the best place to go to keep up with

37:47 Speaker 2: everything that you're doing, with everything that Mickey Lix is doing.

37:51 Speaker 9: Well, you could check www dot mickey lix dot com.

37:55 Speaker 5: That's my website.

37:56 Speaker 9: Okay, I'm at mickey Underscore licks on Instagram, Mickey Licks

38:01 Speaker 9: on Facebook, and then just hit the Spotify's just Mickey

38:05 Speaker 9: Licks and licks is spelled l y x x uh.

38:09 Speaker 9: And hopefully I'll be in your state, in your country

38:12 Speaker 9: very soon doing what we're doing, having fun.

38:15 Speaker 5: And yeah, I hope to see you there.

38:17 Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. All right, Well, it is wonderful

38:20 Speaker 2: to talk with you. You can't wait to hear the

38:21 Speaker 2: next single when it comes out. And I'm sure we'll

38:24 Speaker 2: do this in the future as you're releasing new music

38:26 Speaker 2: and doing doing a lot of things. Uh, you know,

38:29 Speaker 2: we're we we became fast fans here, so really really

38:33 Speaker 2: love what you're doing. Man, keep it up, and uh,

38:35 Speaker 2: we'll let you go for now and we're gonna hit

38:37 Speaker 2: this track. But Mickey Licks, thank you so much, thank you.

38:40 Speaker 2: All right, you got to take care, all right. That

38:44 Speaker 2: is Mickey Licks from Long Island, a real New Yorker

38:46 Speaker 2: by the way, Jenny, really yeah, that's right, that's right,

38:49 Speaker 2: that's right, all right, that's a that's a little bit inside.

38:51 Speaker 2: But if you know, you know, but uh no, but

38:54 Speaker 2: he's he's amazing, very very talented, and uh let's give

38:57 Speaker 2: this a spin. This is another great track. I actually

39:00 Speaker 2: listen to all of these, but this is called Gates

39:02 Speaker 2: of Buddha.

39:02 Speaker 14: Set the Broken Wampos. There's a hole in the road some.

39:36 Speaker 7: For one hundred water.

39:37 Speaker 6: Winters do I hate that?

39:41 Speaker 15: Until as we watched into King to tell.

39:51 Speaker 12: On us him to.

39:53 Speaker 7: Read so well.

39:58 Speaker 15: Side Shadow Hillside you know lls remember get w.

40:08 Speaker 6: Occication dies, mothers.

40:11 Speaker 8: Ambries the sorenber O brees that de why your brothers

40:23 Speaker 8: to make the present problem So put they not pros.

40:31 Speaker 8: Still put in my sentence sportsman per say.

40:37 Speaker 9: Tell the.

40:42 Speaker 8: Castle hills polson bos as a siege too was as

40:48 Speaker 8: ands and.

40:49 Speaker 7: Make see you.

40:53 Speaker 14: Real need my side.

40:55 Speaker 7: Shadow sill side.

40:58 Speaker 15: You know, lalls remember that great wind sca obsigations eyes

41:06 Speaker 15: models aries.

41:08 Speaker 7: Fo the son of Free.

42:23 Speaker 15: Shadow Seals stop, you know, halls, grem Bamble will occupation dies,

42:35 Speaker 15: Nobles will rise on the Solvendas.

42:43 Speaker 7: Holy Shadow Seals stop you know. Last Grey Bamble Will.

42:54 Speaker 6: Occupations is mos.

43:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say he can.

43:10 Speaker 4: Play no incredible definitely incredible.

43:14 Speaker 2: That is Mickey Licks and that track is called Gates

43:16 Speaker 2: of Buddha and oh yeah, yeah, no kidding, no kidding, yeah.

43:22 Speaker 2: Thank you again to Mickey Licks for joining us this

43:23 Speaker 2: morning on the show. That was great. Really enjoyed talking

43:25 Speaker 2: with him and love his music. And he's young, he's

43:28 Speaker 2: got a long, very successful career about him, I predict.

43:32 Speaker 2: And this is Matt Connorton Unleashed. If you're listening live

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44:05 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. We have a few minutes before

44:09 Speaker 2: the top of the hour, and there is some music

44:10 Speaker 2: industry news. There is a ticketing agency in trouble, and

44:15 Speaker 2: it's not Ticketmaster. For once, StubHub has run a foul

44:21 Speaker 2: of the Federal Trade Commission. This is from Digitalmusicnews dot com,

44:25 Speaker 2: which by the way, is one of my favorite websites

44:27 Speaker 2: to get music industry news. From FTC orders StubHub to

44:31 Speaker 2: refund ten million dollars worth of unfair or deceptive fees.

44:38 Speaker 2: Check your email you might have an email offering you

44:41 Speaker 2: a part of a settlement. Here it says the Federal

44:44 Speaker 2: Trade Commission has ordered stub up to pay ten million

44:47 Speaker 2: dollars to fans for deceptively advertising ticket prices on its website.

44:53 Speaker 2: The country's largest ticket exchange and resale ticket platform, StubHub,

44:57 Speaker 2: has to fork over ten million dollars to fans to

44:59 Speaker 2: set up charges lodged against it by the Federal Trade

45:03 Speaker 2: Commission over violations of the FTC Act. Specifically, sub Hub

45:08 Speaker 2: was found to have violated the agency's rule on unfair

45:11 Speaker 2: or deceptive fees by advertising ticket prices on its website

45:14 Speaker 2: without clearly disclosing up front how much customers would pay

45:18 Speaker 2: at checkout after all mandatory fees. And by the way,

45:23 Speaker 2: this is not anything unique. Of course, if you're a

45:27 Speaker 2: longtime listener of the show, or if you just follow

45:29 Speaker 2: music industry news, you know that we often That's why

45:33 Speaker 2: I made that joke about it really wasn't even a

45:35 Speaker 2: joke about, Oh, there's a ticketing agency in trouble, and

45:37 Speaker 2: for once, it's actually not Ticketmaster, because we run into

45:41 Speaker 2: the same thing, of course with Ticketmaster, where anyone who's

45:44 Speaker 2: bought tickets knows. You go on their website and you

45:47 Speaker 2: go to look up some tickets and you decide you

45:50 Speaker 2: want them, and then by the time you get to

45:52 Speaker 2: the end of the transaction, you're paying nearly twice as

45:57 Speaker 2: much as what you thought those tickets were initially going

45:59 Speaker 2: to cost. Apparently stubbub kind of operates the same way,

46:03 Speaker 2: and you get to the end of it and you're

46:05 Speaker 2: you know, with all the fees and taxes and everything,

46:08 Speaker 2: the final price ends up being way more than what

46:12 Speaker 2: you were expecting. So so stub hub is run a

46:15 Speaker 2: foul of the FTC. It says here quote the Commission's

46:19 Speaker 2: fee rules make it very clear that the total price

46:22 Speaker 2: of live event tickets must be disclosed upfront to enable

46:27 Speaker 2: customers to make fully informed purchasing decisions unquote, said Christopher Mufferage,

46:33 Speaker 2: director of the FDC's Bureau of Consumer Protection.

46:37 Speaker 5: Quote.

46:37 Speaker 2: Price transparency is essential to a free and competitive marketplace.

46:44 Speaker 2: Today's settlement underscores the Commission's commitment to ensuring that consumers

46:48 Speaker 2: pay the price they are promised unquote. The agency's action

46:51 Speaker 2: against stubbub follows a warning letter sent to the company

46:54 Speaker 2: in May of last year, which stated that multiple price

46:58 Speaker 2: is listed on its website appear to be in violation

47:00 Speaker 2: of the Fees Rule. That rule went into effect on

47:03 Speaker 2: May twelve, twenty twenty five. The rule states that it

47:07 Speaker 2: is an unfair and deceptive practice to offer, display, or

47:11 Speaker 2: advertise the price of a live event ticket without quote clearly,

47:16 Speaker 2: conspicuously and most prominently disclosing the total price unquote. This

47:22 Speaker 2: is defined as quote the maximum total of all fees

47:25 Speaker 2: or charges a consumer must pay for any goods or services,

47:28 Speaker 2: and any mandatory ancillary goods or services unquote. To settle

47:33 Speaker 2: stub Hub's alleged violations of the FTC Act, the company

47:37 Speaker 2: is required to pay ten million dollars, which will go

47:41 Speaker 2: to eligible consumers through a settlement and consumer redress distribution program.

47:47 Speaker 2: Stub Hub is also prohibited from misrepresenting the total price

47:51 Speaker 2: of any goods or services. Any fees are charges, the

47:54 Speaker 2: final payment amount for any transaction, and other material facts,

48:00 Speaker 2: including those related to refunds or cancelations. Stub Hub must

48:05 Speaker 2: pay two groups of eligible consumers within ninety days of

48:10 Speaker 2: the date of the order. Eligible consumers include those who

48:13 Speaker 2: bought tickets for live events in the US between May

48:16 Speaker 2: twelve and May fourteen of twenty twenty five. The first

48:19 Speaker 2: group includes those whom the total price of tickets was

48:22 Speaker 2: not disclosed on the initial pricing display. The second group

48:27 Speaker 2: includes all other consumers who bought tickets during that period.

48:32 Speaker 2: That's a really short window, May twelve to May fourteen,

48:35 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a ten million dollar payout.

48:38 Speaker 5: Wow.

48:38 Speaker 4: How they're going to pull that one?

48:40 Speaker 2: Wow? But there you go. So somebody is in trouble,

48:45 Speaker 2: and this time it's not Ticketmaster, it's Stubba. But what

48:47 Speaker 2: do we always say? Ticketing is a dirty business. It's

48:51 Speaker 2: a dirty business. So I wonder if they, uh, I

48:56 Speaker 2: wonder if you know, because I don't know if anything

49:00 Speaker 2: ever changed with supposedly Ticketmaster was making some changes, but

49:03 Speaker 2: I don't know if they ever actually did.

49:05 Speaker 4: So now I wonder about that. Yeah, because it always

49:08 Speaker 4: seems to never go down, right, you know, there's so

49:11 Speaker 4: many fees.

49:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you always end up page ridiculous.

49:14 Speaker 3: This handling fee, that handling fee, this one, it went

49:16 Speaker 3: through that one's computers.

49:17 Speaker 2: So we'll tack on another five bucks, right, yeah, it's

49:21 Speaker 2: it's remarkable.

49:23 Speaker 4: All right.

49:23 Speaker 2: Well, we are approaching the top of the hour, so

49:25 Speaker 2: we're going to take a break. We're going to show

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