Matt Connarton Unleashed 4-12-25 hour 1

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0:09 Speaker 2: Yo was April?

0:10 Speaker 3: Where's the sun that today's supposed to boom flowers?

0:13 Speaker 1: But the snow on the way.

0:15 Speaker 4: Manchester feeling like the North full zone. I'm out hearing bout rash of rock.

0:19 Speaker 3: Cologne, snowy sripping. This spring gone wilds.

0:23 Speaker 5: I saw my block life.

0:24 Speaker 6: Ringers ay styles aple should be won, but I'm bundled instead.

0:28 Speaker 4: Come on you, she wasn't messing with my head.

0:32 Speaker 7: I'll come a shovel away.

0:34 Speaker 8: I thought i'd.

0:35 Speaker 6: Seen the last flake.

0:37 Speaker 9: Now I'm now here again, coming past.

0:41 Speaker 6: I can't say win a chill pulling franks, playing out of season?

0:46 Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

0:47 Speaker 1: Weather?

0:48 Speaker 3: Gotten no reason?

0:50 Speaker 5: Snowy stripping. This is spring gone wilds.

0:53 Speaker 6: I saw my block life ringers ay styles aple should be won, but I'm bundled instead.

0:58 Speaker 3: Come on you, she wants messing.

1:00 Speaker 10: With my head.

1:01 Speaker 11: Sun's on vacation and Cloud's taking charge, driving her ring the snowman.

1:05 Speaker 12: That's a sabotage.

1:07 Speaker 6: Those guys are hostage by frosts, free mother nature.

1:10 Speaker 3: What's this joke you're pulling on me? Dream of barbecues?

1:13 Speaker 11: Now I'm stuck with this few puffy coding gloves man.

1:16 Speaker 3: How about you. I want to.

1:17 Speaker 11: See green grass and forget the bleak slaves, but the sells crashing all my springtime dates.

1:39 Speaker 3: You are listening to wm.

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2:25 Speaker 4: Good morning everybody, Welcome, Here we go. It is that time again.

2:27 Speaker 13: Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM Inglorious, Snowy, very snowy, Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, April twelve, twenty twenty five, and I am not alone.

2:52 Speaker 9: J JNS best friend.

2:56 Speaker 13: Good morning time Sunshine. There's no sunshine today.

3:00 Speaker 8: I said people are sunshines. I didn't call the.

3:02 Speaker 13: World that right. Yes, it is messed up. Yeah, if you are listening live on Saturday. On Saturday morning, we woke up to quite the winter wonderland, quite the the snow storm and it's actually sicken of the roads and it's making travel dangerous. And our first guest, in fact, Katie Dobbins, she's gonna be calling in because she was trying to get here and it's it's just very dangerous outside.

3:23 Speaker 4: So everybody if you.

3:28 Speaker 13: If you are listening live on Saturday morning. Please be very careful driving this morning, if you are traveling, if you are en route anywhere. I even wore and I posted a picture of it on social media. I wore my after the Winter shirt today. Not so, they're a great band. They've been on the show a couple of times. I love after the Winter, but also, like I said, you know, just trying to remind Mother Nature that it is in fact after the winter.

3:53 Speaker 4: Yes, the concept, because I can't remember it.

3:56 Speaker 14: Is it officially after the winter or is it not officially after the winter until.

4:00 Speaker 4: It's after No, it's after the winter. It's spring. We're in April.

4:05 Speaker 8: Well, what was the original is the first day of the spring?

4:08 Speaker 13: I think it's March twentieth, so uh yeah, so it's very much Uh, it's very much after the winter. So my favorite time of year is after the winter. But yes, we have plunged back into winter. So everyone be safe Falcons.

4:26 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so be safe if you are traveling this morning.

4:28 Speaker 13: I thought about opening you know the show today with you know Prince has a song called sometimes it Snows in April, and I thought about playing it this morning.

4:37 Speaker 4: The only thing is.

4:38 Speaker 13: You know, obviously we're a fully licensed radio station. We can play whatever we want, but we also of course stream the show to Facebook and YouTube and everything. And uh, I think Prince is one of those artists. If you if you play a Prince song and you're streaming you, uh, not only will social media the services Facebook and YouTube, not only will they say you a nasty message, but I think in the case of Prince, they actually send a team of assassins to your location. I think, yeah, there's a few, there's a few artists like that, Prince, the Beatles, A C D c Uh.

5:12 Speaker 13: Don't don't play any of those on your live stream if you are streaming to social media while you're broadcasting.

5:18 Speaker 14: It was supposed to be what was supposed to be an awesome documentary of Prince on like Netflix or something.

5:26 Speaker 4: Oh really because of licensing, because of the music.

5:29 Speaker 8: I think it's like the Family or something. Shut it down? Okay, God, because I think it would be great.

5:35 Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, anyway, let's do this. So we're going to Katie Dobbins is going to be calling in. So Katie was supposed to be here with us live this morning in studio, but she.

5:49 Speaker 8: Still has to come to Manchester. The reasons.

5:51 Speaker 13: Yeah, so she is on her way to Manchester, but it's going to be difficult for her to get here in time because the roads are so bad. Apparently there's accidents, there's road closures, is everything. So she's going to call in in a few minutes. What we're gonna do is we're gonna go ahead. Actually we have time. I think we're gonna play a couple of her songs before she calls, and then we'll play a couple of them a couple more at the end of our conversations because Katie Dobbin's just amazing. She's got a new single called Grateful.

6:18 Speaker 13: We're gonna play that in a moment. Oh, but we're also gonna play you know what we'll do. We'll play Grateful second because I want to play that for when we're leading into our conversation with Katie when she calls us at nine point fifteen. She's got another song. So when she was on when she was on Granted State of Mind the last time that she was on there a few weeks ago, and I the honor and privilege of being on that night too, along with Texas Mike. We were all in studio with Rob Azevito that night, and so we all get to hang out and talk with Katie.

6:47 Speaker 13: She has this other song called Wild, which is just really cool. It's a little bit of a departure for her. It sounds different than than some of her other material, and it was recorded at Rockinghorse Studio with his name escapes me. Now Brian somebody, Oh, Brian Coombs. Yeah, who's a lot of great things have come out of that studio, Rocking Horse. But this song Wild is really really good. So I think we'll play that and then we'll play Grateful and then which is the newest single, and then by that time Katie should be on the phone with us and we'll.

7:19 Speaker 4: Talk with her and get caught up with her.

7:21 Speaker 13: And by the way, if you missed it, her appearance on Granted State of Mind a few weeks ago, check that out as well. That was really good. She came in, she played live, like I said, that was the plan this morning. But this winter weather in the middle of April has kind of screwed things up. So but that's okay, you know, we adapt and we go forward and looking forward to talking to Katie when she calls in. But check this out. This is really really cool. This is Katie Dobbins and this is a song called Wild.

7:44 Speaker 13: And then we'll also we'll play Grateful after that and then we'll talk with Katie. So we're just getting started here on this snowy Saturday morning on Matt Connorton Unleashed live from the studios of WM and H ninety five point three FM.

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17:03 Speaker 13: Such a beautiful song that is grateful. The newest single from Katie Dobbins, who I believe is on the phone with us. Katie, are you there? Hello, Hey, good morning, good morning. It's a surprising morning, isn't it. I don't know if so for those of you who are listening live. Of course, it is snowing in New Hampshire, and not just snowing a little bit. It's a legit I just saw be Pinard posted in the uh in the chat room they've got three inches of snow already in Golfstown this morning, so it's like a legit storm.

17:34 Speaker 13: It's not just a little dusting. And so obviously this has affected travel. So I hope you're I hope you're somewhere safe in some sort of parking lot or something as you're talking to us.

17:45 Speaker 10: That is exactly where I am. It's not where I was hoping i'd be at this point in time, but I'm safe. I'm warm in my car and the snow is you know, it's pretty, so we can give it that.

17:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I mean I don't. Uh I I was not pleased to see it snowing this morning.

18:02 Speaker 13: I had no idea this was coming, but uh I all I heard was it was going to be, uh, not the best weather over the weekend.

18:09 Speaker 4: Maybee heared, you know, some rain and whatnot.

18:11 Speaker 13: But uh, yeah, it's it's uh it's legit messy out there. So if you are traveling this morning, uh, if you are in our area, please be careful. And if you're listening from somewhere else where, it's not snow, congratulations on that, but uh but uh, Katie so uh and obviously you know we'll we'll have you, we'll have you back in the in the future, and and always love to have you in studio. I was talking earlier about the last time I saw you. It was on Rob as A Vito's show, Granted State of Mind, and you came in and played live and everything, and so look forward to doing that again on this program.

18:41 Speaker 4: Uh in the future.

18:42 Speaker 13: Hopefully this will be our last snow event uh until uh until next winter.

18:47 Speaker 4: But but that sounded grateful. So that's the newest single.

18:52 Speaker 10: Correct, Yes, that is my new single. It just came out. Thank you so much for playing it.

18:57 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely absolutely.

18:59 Speaker 8: Yeah.

18:59 Speaker 13: And we also have played Wild because I heard that song for the first time on Rob's show when Rob played it on Granted State of Mind and really really love that. And that was recorded at Rocking Horse. Correct, am I remembering correctly? Correct with Brian Jumes. Yeah, Yeah, they did a great job on that. Yeah, they did a great job on that. And then where was Grateful recorded? Was that also recorded there?

19:24 Speaker 8: Yes?

19:25 Speaker 10: Same spot. Actually, all four of the most recent singles that I've put out that I sent you to play today, all of those are recorded with Brian at Rocking Horse. And they did a great job. They all all every song is like a little different, which is really fun.

19:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you come to work with Brian?

19:42 Speaker 13: Obviously a lot of great things have come out of Rocking Horse over the years, and uh, Brian does a great job. But and I actually I had the pleasure of interviewing him along with another artist he had recorded. This was quite a long time ago, actually on a different show than I do. But but it was a remarkable experience because I got to go there and see the studio and everything, very very impressive.

20:03 Speaker 4: But how did you come to work with Brian.

20:08 Speaker 8: Gosh?

20:08 Speaker 10: I'm trying to think of how I first met him several years ago in the New Hampshire music scene. I can't remember. I actually can't remember exactly how I met him, but I met him a long time ago. I visited his studio years ago, like after the release of my first album Maybe or Yeah, and the studio is beautiful and he was really nice and we talked about working together for a long time. But I wasn't living in this area. I was living in Boston, so and I had worked at a couple of different producers down that way, and then I moved back to New Hampshire a few years ago, and so I reached out to him and I'm like, hey, let's finally do it.

20:48 Speaker 10: And I had a few the song the four songs that I wanted to record with him are all piano based, like I wrote them on piano, and they have sort of a like I don't know, in my mind, they had a big feel and I felt like he was the person to kind of bring out that epic, big vibe that I was hearing in my head, and I think he did a great job.

21:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

21:13 Speaker 13: Have you released a full album or has everything been singles or do you have an EP or whats Because there's so many different ways to release music now, there's so many different strategies and just you know, the guests that we've had on the show over the past few years seem to be using a lot of different It's interesting to hear about the different strategies and thought processes behind those.

21:33 Speaker 4: But you seem to put out a lot of individual singles correct.

21:38 Speaker 10: Correct, at least recently. That's been my That's been my kind of method, I guess. But I love the art of the album. I really do like thinking of a collection of songs and telling a story through songs in a full album, and doing the album work, and like thinking about the layout of what everything can look like and visually how that's going to support the music that's happening. I really really love that process. And I do have two albums out. One came out in twenty seventeen, She Is Free, and then There Is Light came out in twenty nineteen.

22:10 Speaker 10: But since then I've been focusing on more like smaller collections of song releasing one thing at a time, And I don't know if it's a strategy or if it's just kind of like where I'm at right now in terms of, you know, these four songs I just really had on my heart and was like, I got to get them out, but I didn't. I'm not yet at the point I might make them into a full album at some point, but I'm still working on what that would look like, and I have so many songs I'm trying to figure out which ones I want to focus on.

22:41 Speaker 10: Nex.

22:43 Speaker 13: Yeah, that seems to be a strategy too, that a lot of artists are using. Is you know, it's kind of the inverse of what was the traditional strategy where you release an album and then you release a series of singles from an album, But now a lot of artists are using I guess it's called the waterfall effect, where they release a series of singles that eventually will form an album, which I think is an interesting way to approach it. But but the way that you're doing it, it seems like it allows for a lot of flexibility in how you approach it, because, yeah, you could do that, as you were saying, you could eventually take some of these songs and make them an album or or not, you know, and and it's it's nice to have that flexibility.

23:21 Speaker 13: Do you find that doing it this way because you did at one time you as you mentioned, you released a couple of albums earlier in your career, do you find that in terms of engagement? You know, we live in a time too where social media engagement is so critical and you kind of have to feed that machine, you know, to keep people interested in what you're doing. Do you find that this approach works better releasing these singles because you've released singles pretty consistently, right, don't. I don't remember a time where you've gone a long period of time without releasing anything.

23:54 Speaker 13: I could be wrong, So I know a lot of.

23:57 Speaker 10: Artists try to release something like once a month or once every few months. I'm definitely not at that frequency, but I'd try to get at least a couple things out a year, which feels like a good timeline for me. And I feel like I don't think there is a right or wrong strategy really, and I think whatever feels good to you as an artist is what you should do. But I do think that releasing one song at a time has given me more time to really focus on that song and draw people to, hey, this is a song.

24:30 Speaker 10: This is the thing. When I've made like my last album, it had twelve songs on it, and I love the collection of it, and I think thematically it was called there is Light, and the somatic idea was, you know, there's a light in the darkness, and the darkness doesn't win, like, even though life can be hard sometimes like, the light is always going to keep shining, so look for the light. And so that message was really fun to promote through the different songs on the album. But I did feel like there were some songs on that album that I loved that maybe didn't get, you know, as much of the attention that I wish they had been able to, because when there's twelve songs, it's hard to like fully highlight every single thing.

25:08 Speaker 10: So in that way, it's kind of fun to do one song at a time. In another way, I do like the storytelling aspect of having a whole collection.

25:16 Speaker 13: So yeah, I don't know, do you ever think about re recording any of those early songs, do you? You know, as you've grown and evolved over the years, and you know, and we have we've known you for a while now. Yeah, I would imagine some of those you might go back and listen to and think, jeez, I think I could do those differently now or enhance them now.

25:37 Speaker 20: Yeah.

25:38 Speaker 10: There's actually there's a song on my first album, bring On the Fire, that had to really kind of poppy, fun feel that I did record a totally different way for my second album because I started playing it differently when I was doing live shows and I'm like, wait, I actually kind of want to do like a slowed down, speak easy, you know, chill version of this song, and so we that and I loved it, and both versions are really fun. They're really different. There's another song on my first record called Daddy's Song that I think is beautiful and it's about the relationship between me and my dad that I have thought about rerecording because I mean, people will tell me they love she is Free, and I do think it's a really fun record.

26:20 Speaker 10: But you're so critical of yourself, right, and it came out almost well, it came out eight years ago now, so sometimes I listen and I'm like, I sound so much younger. So it's more just me being probably critical, But sometimes it's that I want to bring something new out of the song, and that's what we did with the Bring on the Fire song.

26:39 Speaker 13: Yeah, when you play out, do you play that early material still? I would imagine you do, right, I do, Yeah, I do.

26:47 Speaker 10: And I like to kind of include things from all of the different sonic periods of my music evolution.

26:55 Speaker 9: I guess yeah.

26:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you recorded why I mean to go back to that for a moment.

27:02 Speaker 13: And I know we talked about it too on We talked about it on Granded State of Mind because Rob was so Rob was very taken with that song as well, because it is a little bit it's a little bit different from.

27:11 Speaker 4: Your other stuff. And your dad is actually on that song, correct.

27:16 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was really really cool. We brought him in studio and actually when we were doing the when we were working on the production of that song, the one of the producers, Josh, he took the song home over the weekend because he was like, I want to try like a couple kind of cool electronic drum machine things on it. And I had no idea what he was going to do when he came back with it, and it had that cool kind of rhythmic stuff in it, and I love. I just loved it, and then he also had this kind of radio sounding thing, and I'm like, what is that.

27:48 Speaker 10: It's cool. It's kind of like draws you in a little bit and makes you go, wait, what's happening? And he was like, Oh, it's actually an old track that I made sound like an old radio from something that he used in a different album or something. And I loved it, but I wanted to make it personal, so I brought my dad in and he wrote out a little piece to speak, like a little speaking part, and that kind of resonated with what the song's about, and he recorded it and then they distorted it and did all this stuff to make it have that cool kind of radio effect.

28:20 Speaker 10: So I love that he's in the track and it was really fun, yeah to do that.

28:25 Speaker 13: When you first approached your dad with it, what was his initial reaction like, was he on board immediately or was he kind of like, wait.

28:32 Speaker 4: You want me to do what?

28:35 Speaker 10: I was totally on board and excited, but he was also I think he was a little nervous, and I think and he worked really hard on like what he wanted to say, because you know, it's meaningful and I really like every part of the process of creation to have like special meaning, and so he knew that and he took that, you know, really seriously, and it was really sweet and it meant a lot.

28:58 Speaker 4: Is your dad, I assume he's a musician.

29:03 Speaker 1: He is.

29:04 Speaker 10: He has always played guitar. We've always had several guitars in the house, like from as young as I can remember. He doesn't perform, so he's not a performing musician, but he's a definite lover and player of music for sure.

29:19 Speaker 4: Did he teach you?

29:20 Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know if maybe you're self taught, but did he or did he influence you in terms of learning to play guitar when you were growing up.

29:29 Speaker 10: I think he definitely influenced me, because you know, you always look up to your mom and your dad and whatever it is that they're up to you. Just seeing him play the guitars, you know, I'm sure I was like, Wow, that's so cool. I alant to play guitar. But we laugh about it because I actually he had offered to teach me guitar, and I was kind of like, no, not. And then in eighth grade a friend of mine taught me a few chords and I'm like, Dad, can you believe it? I only know three chords, and now I can play all these songs and like, look at this song I wrote, And he's like, are you kidding?

29:59 Speaker 10: I could have taught right, That's just kind of what happens when you're a preteen girl.

30:03 Speaker 4: Sometimes I think, oh, sure, sure, but.

30:06 Speaker 10: We've actually worked together, Like there's a couple of songs that have little rifts in them or little guitar a different guitar chord that I wouldn't have thought of that actually came from him giving me advice or saying, oh, what if you tried this chord there. So more recently that has been kind of fun.

30:24 Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, that's very cool and I'm sure he's I'm sure he's enormously proud of you. Oh and I just remember too, I had the pleasure of meeting him on the greatest side of mind. You brought him with you, which was really cool. Yeah, yeah, no, he seems he seems awesome. It's nice that he is so supportive, and I think I think for a lot of people who do anything creative, whether it's music or anything else, you know, having supportive parents is always a big help. And not everyone does, and they can still go on to do creative things.

30:55 Speaker 13: But I think if you do have supportive parents, it kind of gives you a little bit of a head start.

30:59 Speaker 8: You know.

31:00 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's a game changer. I owe a lot to them. They both of my parents are very supportive in me pursuing my dreams and it means the world.

31:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, is your mom a musician at all?

31:14 Speaker 10: She actually has been teaching herself piano more recently, which has been really fun. And yeah, I always try to get her to sing with me. But and she can sing, but she maybe she's shy. I'm not sure.

31:28 Speaker 1: Yeah.

31:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you learn to sing? Are you self taught?

31:34 Speaker 10: I just always was in I just always loved to sing, you know, I'm not self taught. I was in various choirs from again, like elementary school and forward. I was always in some kind of singing choir or singing and dancing thing. Yeah, and I did take some voice lessons in middle and high school, and as an adult I've taken some lessons too, Like every time I record in this, I like to go back go to a voice teacher and kind of work on those songs that I'm going to record and just make sure that I feel really good about them and I'm using the most powerful or appropriate technique for whatever song I'm gonna work on.

32:15 Speaker 10: So yeah, I think it's always good to keep keep training, keep working on all those skills.

32:20 Speaker 13: Well, that's really interesting, and that demonstrates the level of commitment that you have to making sure these songs come out the best that they possibly can, because very few people do that. I mean I've certainly read interviews and seen interviews with other singers who do that, but rarely I've met very few musicians who will actually have very few singers who will actually go and work with a voice coach or a voice teacher of some kind. And what you just described, you know, Okay, I've got this song, I'm gonna be recording it.

32:53 Speaker 13: I want to get with a voice coach and make sure that I can do this the best that I can. I mean that that is I think, and not to not to shame anybody who doesn't do that, I'm just saying though, that I think demonstrates a really high level of commitment on your part, and I think that's that's commendable because that's not something that's not something I think most singers it would even occur to them to do that, you know what I mean?

33:16 Speaker 10: Hmmm, Yeah, I mean I think for me when I'm recording, it's like, you're making such an investment into this song.

33:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's an.

33:25 Speaker 10: Investment that is, it's your time, it's your heart, and it's of course financial, and then this song is gonna, you hope, it's gonna you know, live and resonate in the airwaves forever. So right right, it's kind of I do I take it really probably too seriously. I think every producer I've worked with would probably tell you, yeah, she's a little bit of a perfectionist.

33:47 Speaker 9: Really.

33:47 Speaker 10: I try to let go of it because it's a balance between creativity and like really wanting things to come out well, and you do have to kind of keep yourself in check. But yeah, it always feels like such a big deal, like, oh my god, this song is coming out and it's gonna live forever.

34:02 Speaker 1: Yeah.

34:03 Speaker 9: Have you ever had that.

34:04 Speaker 13: Happen where someone you're you're working with tells you, hey, you got to relax a little bit. You're you're almost you're almost trying to be too i don't know, too perfect or whatever, like is anyone actually ever said that to you.

34:19 Speaker 10: I think in my early days of performing and recording, I got that feedback a little bit from people, not from a producer, but from people that I was close to, just saying like, hey, make sure you're having fun.

34:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like does it sound good?

34:36 Speaker 10: Am I hitting all the notes?

34:37 Speaker 21: You know?

34:37 Speaker 10: And it's like I was like, oh yeah. And that was definitely a big turning point for me of growth being a performer. It's like, oh wait, I can't just you know, I was younger, but it's like I can't just sing the songs. I gotta I gotta live out these songs and really like, you know, believe what I'm singing and connect with people, because that's otherwise what am I doing? Yeah, And so that was like huge game changer. And during the making of my second record, There Is Light, I did have a conversation with my producer about perfectionism.

35:11 Speaker 10: We actually did a podcast episode about it together because at the time I had a podcast, and so we did like breaking Free from Perfectionism, and he said something that really struck with me, which was perfection perfect No. He said, a song is never perfect. You just run out of time. He's like, it's never going to be perfect. You just run out of time. And the whole thing is like some artists will work on a song for so long and then it just never comes out because by the time they've done with it, they're either sick of it or they hate it, or they can't get it to where they want to want it to be.

35:50 Speaker 10: And then it's like the world is missing out on that beautiful, creative song because you just perfected it to death, you know. So I definitely have had those conversations, not in a condescending way. People have been really supportive and understanding of like, yeah, I know you want this to be your best work, but also like I feel this song right now, and I think other people are going to to and that's most important, So let's let it breathe from here.

36:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

36:17 Speaker 10: It's challenging by the way.

36:19 Speaker 4: Jay Bellow is in the chat room.

36:21 Speaker 13: He is, of course the lead singer of Chasing the Devil, a great band, and and Jay is another example of someone who really puts a lot into his craft and takes it very seriously and always wants it to be the best it can. And and Jay said in the chat love The idea of using a coach prior to recording such a great idea.

36:38 Speaker 4: Yeah.

36:39 Speaker 13: Yeah, Like I said, it's not something most people would even think of, you know, but but yeah, but no, I think that's I think that's great that you do that, and I think it does show up in your vocal performances that that level, that degree of commitment.

36:54 Speaker 8: Thanks do you.

36:55 Speaker 4: By the way, I probably asked you this before, but do you remember the first.

36:59 Speaker 8: Song you ever wrote?

37:02 Speaker 10: The first song I ever wrote was a cappella because I didn't know how to play guitar yet and I didn't know how to write on piano. But it was a song for my best friend in fifth grade who moved away to California. Oh no, kidding, And the song was called best Friend.

37:20 Speaker 8: Yeah.

37:21 Speaker 4: Did that song survive or some version of that song survive? Like, do you still play it today?

37:27 Speaker 22: No?

37:27 Speaker 10: I mean I still kind of remember it, but it survives in my mind. Yeah, And that's probably where we'll stay.

37:36 Speaker 13: Right right now, I understand. And now, what's the live situation lately? Are you playing out a lot?

37:43 Speaker 23: I am.

37:44 Speaker 10: I'm super thankful. There's so many awesome venues around the state and around New England and I play a monthly. I host a monthly singer songwriter showcase up in Meredith, New Hampshire at a listening room called Hermitwood's Winery Okay, where I play in the round with guest artists every month. So those shows have been really cool. And uh, if you're in the Manchester area this evening, I'm playing for the boot Barn grand opening at the Mall of New Hampshire from four to seven, So that should be fun.

38:15 Speaker 10: Now, girl Boots, Yeah.

38:17 Speaker 4: We know someone who's gonna be there.

38:18 Speaker 13: I think, uh, I think, uh Jenny isn't uh Christian going to be there for uh for the station he works out. You mentioned the boot Barn grand opening the other day. I think he's gonna positive cool. I think he's gonna be there, but uh yeah, uh no, that's that's very cool. And then uh so you've got that tonight.

38:37 Speaker 4: And then are you are you?

38:39 Speaker 13: Are you playing shows every week or are you are you keeping are you keeping busy? Obviously as we get into the.

38:43 Speaker 10: Warm, I play a few I usually play a few times a week, three or four times a week, depending on what's going on. And uh, in May I'm actually doing a road trip down to Nashville. So I have a show in West Virginia on my way, and then I'm doing some writers around in Nashville. So I'm really excited. It's I signed that city to be very inspirational, and so I'm really excited just to hear a ton of original music and just get saturated in it a little bit.

39:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, have you been there before? Have we talked about that? Have you been to Nashville before?

39:17 Speaker 10: I have, Yeah, I've been several times, but I haven't been since the world went so crazy a few years ago. To my first time back in a while.

39:26 Speaker 4: Oh, very cool? Very cool?

39:28 Speaker 13: Is that intimidating at all going to Nashville, or at least the first time, because it seems like everyone we've had on the show who has been to Nashville has had a positive experience. But but also it sounds like it can be a little bit scary at first, because you know, it's it's Nashville, It's you knows there's such a concentration of talent there and a lot of and a lot of very successful songwriters obviously as well, not not only performers and people that we would know, but but people who may not be household names, but.

40:02 Speaker 4: Who have written a lot of hit songs. Is that intimidating like the first time you go there?

40:10 Speaker 10: I think it probably depends on what your goal is. Like if I was going down with a goal, with a specific goal, I might be more nervous. I go to Nashville because I think it's always really really good to surround yourself with people who are better than you. I find that really exciting to be like, wow, like I'm going to hear songs written by people who have written for Tim McGraw and Kelsey Valerini and like they've had such success in this world. And I find that to be really encouraging and exciting, like, Hey, this is actually something that people do and they do it well and they do it successfully.

40:50 Speaker 10: And then I hear their songs and I'm like, wow, I really need to get better at my songwriting. And so I leave with ideas and I leave with kind of like a re ignited fire and passion. Yeah, and that's kind of what I what I go for. So I don't find it. I personally don't find it intimidating. I find it exciting. But I could see why people would because yeah, I mean you never know who you're going to run into, and it is there are a lot of songwriters in Nashville, so if you're trying to go, I mean they call it a ten year town.

41:21 Speaker 10: So if you're trying to go, have be a successful you know, get signed and be you know, get a record label, record deal and all that kind of stuff. I mean they say it can take ten years. Of course, there are I'm sure stories that are different than that, but sure, sure, So if you're going with that gold, then I'm sure it would feel intimidating, but I just go for passion.

41:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Katie. What should people know? The time goes quickly.

41:48 Speaker 13: But because I want to after our conversation, I'm going to play Giants, and I'm going to play and I'm also going to play Oh what was the other one you'd sent us?

41:58 Speaker 9: I have it here just because I can't, Oh, because I can.

42:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, Giants.

42:02 Speaker 13: I'm excited to play because I don't think I had heard that that song before until you played it live on Grandited State of Mind the last time you were here at the station.

42:11 Speaker 4: And I love that song. I love the lyrics. That's that's so good.

42:15 Speaker 10: Oh thank you?

42:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I really really love that much.

42:18 Speaker 13: So we're gonna we're gonna play both of those after we after we finish up. But I want to make sure people know what should they know about how to keep up with everything that you're doing online so they can get to a show, keep an eye on new music that you're releasing, all that good stuff. Where's the best place for people to go for that?

42:35 Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you so much. So I have a website. It's Katidobbins music dot com and from there you can find links to all my socials, all my music pages. There's a mailing list you can sign up for. I send out a monthly email at the beginning of every month. It's called the Monthly b and it's kind of a play on my motto, which is bub Brave, be Free, and so in it, I always write a little encouraging message about being yourself, being brave or being free, and then updates about where I'm playing that month, any new music that came out, in any new exciting stuff that's happening.

43:12 Speaker 10: So the website is kind of a one stop shop. And then you can also find me on social media at Katie Dobbin's Music and yeah, you can listen to all my music on Spotify, Apple, Pandora, wherever you like to listen, or on Matt's radio show. Thank you so much, Matt.

43:28 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, always happy to do that. And Katie, we'll let you go.

43:32 Speaker 13: I'm going to play those tracks, but please continue to travel safely today and have a great event tonight at the boot Barn, and we will look forward to the next time we can have you live with us in studio. And like I said, hopefully this is our final winter storm of the season.

43:49 Speaker 4: My goodness, it's so.

43:52 Speaker 10: So I so wish I was in person with you, but I really appreciate your flexibility. I could call it and this was really fun. Oh always know I'm sitting in a parking lot instead of in that really cool new studio, but yeah, I look forward to doing that sometime hopefully soon.

44:10 Speaker 13: Absolutely, we will definitely all right, Katie, we'll let you go for now. Thank you so much for calling, and we'll talk.

44:15 Speaker 4: To you soon.

44:16 Speaker 10: Thank you. Thanks everyone, have a great day.

44:18 Speaker 4: You got it.

44:19 Speaker 13: Bye bye, all right, the great Katie Dobbins, and we will close out this segment with like I said, I'm gonna play both of these tracks. We played two to open, and I want to play two to close. We've got Giants and then just because I can both great songs, but I really love Giants. I really love the lyrics, so this is very very interesting. Katie played this live on Granite State of Mind with us a few weeks ago and I was very impressed. So we'll give these a spend. And then if you are listening live on Saturday again, if you're traveling, please be careful.

44:48 Speaker 13: We have a bit of a winter snow event in the middle of April here in New Hampshire. But coming up in the second hour, Echo Ray will be with us, and in the third hour we have Jesse Rotstein and so we've got plenty more.

45:02 Speaker 4: Matt Connorton unleash to come.

45:03 Speaker 13: We are live from the studios of WM and H ninety five point three FM in snowy, wintry Manchester, New Hampshire.

45:11 Speaker 4: But check this out. This is Giants by Katie Dobbins.

45:21 Speaker 15: Your sweatshirt falling off my should. It's too big, Bud. Then again it always was. When did I become so small? Living in your shadow? I don't fail the space saddle. She's like I've been swallow. Don't take too much space, my mime shrink, so I don't race skin bed or to be sick then to be sorry.

46:09 Speaker 9: Well I'm sorry I don't feel safe. But around chin,

46:17 Speaker 9: maybe it's time back. Come mad har hating sun, just mad, make god.

46:26 Speaker 1: And lie.

46:29 Speaker 9: Just so you could think then you are the cho

46:38 Speaker 9: You're come rushing off my should terms.

46:44 Speaker 3: It's a herd powering.

46:46 Speaker 15: But then again it always once now.

46:51 Speaker 22: That arts coming clean, shedding everything good me renewing wrong night skin and tell me are you panisky?

47:05 Speaker 9: Baby? Do you fisting boma shy head because something fins turn back come matter har anting smart just to make saying god.

47:21 Speaker 18: And lie.

47:25 Speaker 9: Just so you could think that you are the job.

47:33 Speaker 9: You know job, don't too much choice space man maps.

47:47 Speaker 3: Shriek so I don't risk anything.

47:54 Speaker 1: Try to crawl tat me, but I know no.

48:02 Speaker 16: The giant side, so I don't think the same.

48:22 Speaker 9: Shine times time, how take its too small?

48:32 Speaker 1: Test may speak, but as.

48:37 Speaker 9: That to stist to show.

48:45 Speaker 10: Jump no no shu.

48:53 Speaker 9: Hiant side.

48:58 Speaker 5: Known giant horny.

49:12 Speaker 3: The fighting sont just makes.

49:14 Speaker 16: Me good giant sort.

49:18 Speaker 3: The acting sont just makes me.

49:21 Speaker 9: Giant son, make bally giant sort, just make.

49:33 Speaker 15: Believe you shine like the northerheart.

49:44 Speaker 9: You come sprady heading the night, and I am greatful. I am greatful.

49:58 Speaker 3: Where there is Oh, you bereave where there is a world.

50:08 Speaker 9: You bereave the piece. When I can't take kids, you say, have faith, And I am greageful.

50:21 Speaker 3: Yes, I am greageful.

50:29 Speaker 9: You shine like the Nord I not your cold spading reading and not, and I am the angel. I am gerage.

50:49 Speaker 9: You're a.

50:52 Speaker 3: Kind believing ship.

51:06 Speaker 16: You breath.

51:09 Speaker 7: With a feel, grow kick you.

51:13 Speaker 9: Said, I am wearing. You believe, mister tied the right.

51:26 Speaker 7: Sand bird.

51:34 Speaker 9: You shine like the all hide the corpa sad.

51:54 Speaker 1: You're big and green and blue and.

52:14 Speaker 3: The bug into my word.

52:22 Speaker 20: Color outside of the lights of known until her well, my so.

52:36 Speaker 9: Called and blue bag into my comside, my side, to flow up my side. You shine like them do because

53:16 Speaker 9: te rang the sign and bade.

53:25 Speaker 1: You shine like.

53:28 Speaker 9: Do because sad my mind tan the sign and read

53:42 Speaker 9: I am bad read time.

54:08 Speaker 11: Yoshi.

54:10 Speaker 6: The sun's supposed to boomt wars, but there's snow on the play. Lanchester's feeling like the North Pole zone.

54:18 Speaker 11: I'm out here in boots when that's a rock colone smell bead ship.

54:22 Speaker 9: And this is string gone love.

54:24 Speaker 6: I's some of buck like winters out siddles, he wi sipp you won blood.

54:29 Speaker 11: I'm bundled and said, come on, New Hampshire. Wasn't messing with my head. I'm pulling my shovel away. Thought I'd seen the last flake. Now I'm out here again, cleaning pass.

54:40 Speaker 6: I can't take win a chill pulling cranks playing that season.

54:44 Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

54:45 Speaker 6: Weather got no reason smell beach ship and this is spring gone loud. I's some of buck like winters out sidled, he wis sipp you one blood.

54:54 Speaker 3: I'm bundled and.

54:55 Speaker 11: Said, come on, New Hampshirt wasn't messing with my head.

55:00 Speaker 4: I'll pull my shovel away.

55:01 Speaker 7: I thought I'd seen the last flake.

55:03 Speaker 4: Now I'm out here again, cleaning pass.

55:05 Speaker 11: I can't take waynard chill pulling franks playing that season.

55:09 Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

55:11 Speaker 4: Weather got no reason?

55:12 Speaker 6: No beat shit, and this spring gone loud? I summer buck like windows exiled aquillsip be one blood and bundled and said, come on him.

55:22 Speaker 7: Sure wasn't missing with my head.

55:25 Speaker 4: Sun's on vacation, clouds taking.

55:27 Speaker 13: Charge, dropping here in the stone man.

55:30 Speaker 6: That's a sabotage, blue skysil, hostage by a frosty spree, mothering nature.

55:35 Speaker 3: What's this joke you're pulling on me?

55:37 Speaker 6: Dream of barcues, Now stuck with this deal? Puffy coat and gloves man, how about you?

55:44 Speaker 3: I want to see green glass. Forget the police.

55:47 Speaker 11: Sights, but the snows clashing all my springtime dates.

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