Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-12-23

Hey, everybody, welcome to the show on this Monday afternoon. This is

Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from these studios of wm n H ninety

five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. I'm getting a

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contact infolk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Monday, June

twelve, twenty twenty three. Jennius here as well at the newsdesk. Hi

there, Hello, Hello. So we have what we call in broadcasting a

cold open. Uh. We we do these once in a while, and

it's it's usually for kind of a not great reason. It's usually because I

have something heavy to to talk about for a few minutes. So what we'll

do is we're doing this. Usually we open with a song, uh some

sort of In fact, I found a couple of As one could imagine,

there are a lot of new and very funny political song parodies coming out right

now. But usually we opened with a song uh, and then uh and

then of course the theme music, and then we get into the show.

But we're gonna do this a little bit separate, and then after we finish

up this segment will kind of reset and go into what would be our normal

Monday afternoon show. But the reason that I'm doing this to open today is

because um, so and again, most of you listening won't know this person,

but some of you, I know, I have some people listening who

definitely knew and loved this person very much so. But I lost someone today

with whom I had been active in the music scene, and it's um,

it was quite a shock to me. Jenny and I were in Dover today

and while there, I received a message on Facebook from a friend of mine,

Matt Beauvaire, and Uh, Matt and I used to play in a

band called My Life Crisis. Uh this Uh, this was back in the

in the two thousands, which in moments like this, you know, in

some ways it seems like another lifetime, you know, and and in other

ways it uh seems like it was last week. And um, Matt informed

me that Ben Brackett York had passed away. And uh, if you,

uh, if you follow me on social media, you might already know this.

You might be aware from my postings earlier, and you might have seen

the picture that I shared that uh, that Matt Beauvaire shared with me um

band photo from that time, And um, I was I was quite shocked

by this. Uh Ben was. I'm not sure if he was even forty.

He might have been thirty eight, thirty nine, he might have been

forty, I'm not I'm not sure, but um, I don't know any

details about what happened to him. Um. Uh so I don't know.

I don't know what it is, but it's um um somebody, somebody really

summed this up well. Uh someone who had also been in the band but

was not in the band at the same time. Uh on social media,

he's Peter Turgeon and he might be listening. Although we called him Stump that

was that was everyone's nickname for him. But he wrote this on Facebook.

He said crazy. I was not in the band when Ben was, but

I knew of him. Sorry, Matt, it is it is strange when

you find out an ex bandmate has passed. There is something about making music

that creates a bond that people who don't can't understand. And uh, that

is that is very true. So um, the band that we were in

my life crisis. So at that time, it was myself, Ben,

Uh, Maddie, that's what we called Matt Beover. He was Maddie and

I was Matt. Actually I was known as the don Uh that that became

my nickname. I don't even remember why, but uh and then Uh and

Jesse Boland, who was our our drummer at that point. And that's the

lineup that's in that picture. And if you see the picture on social media,

Ben is the one with the big smile on his face and he uh,

he was just such a joy to be around. It was, you

know, not only making music with him, but m he just had He

was very funny. If I had met him ten years later then I did,

he and I would probably have ended up doing a podcast together or something.

He was just a very not just creative musically, but just very very

funny, very quick and we laughed a lot. And um, you know

it's I know it probably sounds cliche to some, but a band can be

very much a brotherhood and Uh, I would say that honestly about every band

I've been in, really, but um my Life Crisis. Of all the

bands I played in, that one, i'd say was probably the busiest in

terms of that lineup. We we really worked hard. We played a lot

of shows. And this is the weird thing. I said to Jesse Boland,

the drummer on Facebook. I told him that it's so strange to get

this news today because it was just yesterday. Literally it was yesterday. I

was thinking about the time and I became fixated on this memory. I don't

know what made me think of it, but then once I started thinking about

it, I became fixated on it. I was thinking about the time that

we played two shows in one day in two different states, because we had

a show at the Bomb Shelter and people who were active in the local music

scene from that time, everybody knows the Bomb Shelter and right on Eddie Road

down. I think, well, it's kind of kind of around not where

Planet fitnesses, but around there, and we had a show that night at

the Bomb Shelter. We played there a lot, but we got offered a

show in Connecticut opening for some bands, and uh, I think it was

in Hartford that we really wanted to play, and uh, so I didn't

want to say no. I was in charge of all the booking. I

would I would handle the booking of the shows. That was one of one

of my responsibilities, which I was happy to do because I love, you

know, always loved not only the not only the being a musician, but

also the business side of it too. Always enjoyed that not everyone does,

certainly, but I always did, always have. So I would handle all

the booking. And um, I really didn't want to say no to that

show, but we were. We prided ourselves on being very professional, so

we also would do all that we could to ever avoid canceling a show.

We just we did not cancel shows. So I didn't want to cancel on

the Bomb Shelter. So I remember going to the Guys and U and I

think I had talked to Ben about it first, and I said, Hey,

we've got that show at the Bomb Shelter that day. What do you

think of going to Connecticut first to play this show. We go on early

at this show, open for these bands, and then we fly back to

Manchester and we'll close out the night at the Bomb Shelter and Ben was all

for it. I honestly didn't think everyone would necessarily say yes, these guys

are gonna be like, Matt, what are you doing to us? You're

killing us here. But we just we were trying to play as much as

we possibly could. Everybody said yes, And I just remember now, granted,

there's another part to the story which I'm not going to get into.

Things went a bit awry at the bomb Shelter, but we did play our

set. I'll leave that aside. But I just remember how proud I was

that day of Wow, I'm really proud of my band. I'm really proud

of these guys. You know. Everyone was on board to do that,

you know, and in hindsight, it probably wasn't even worth it to do

that, and it created a lot of unnecessary but everybody was down for it.

But you know, we were young, and we were just you know,

we were ambitious, you know, we were driven, you know.

And and that lineup because with my life crisis, um, there were several

different lineups over the years. And like I was telling you in the car

earlier, I was the one person, like if you look at that picture

that's on Facebook, the only original member of the band in that picture is

me. Um Ben Ben wasn't there for the beginning or the end, but

he was there in the middle when we were like really busy and and that's

that was one of the great things about him being a part of the band.

Not just was he a lot of fun to be around, UM,

just very very talented guitarist, creative songwriter, UM, but he was also

just so gung ho and down for everything. You know he was. Um,

he was every bit everybody has driven as the rest of us. And

UM, it was just h But but but the thing I missed most,

you know, just just being around him was fun, you know, because

it wasn't that band. It wasn't like um just we saw each other at

practice and at shows. Um, you know, we would we would spend

time socially together away from from the band itself. UM. And that's the

only band that I've been in where maybe with the exception of the Jinkst,

but even that was limited in that way. That lineup of My Life Crisis

was the only band I had ever been in where I can say that that

was consistently the case where we spent you know, we enjoyed being around each

other so much that we spent a lot of time together socially, um,

as well as as with the band, you know, doing doing band stuff.

So UM, So I was. I was quite shocked to get that

message today. Um. Again, I don't know what happened, but and

I think he had a couple of children, um, regret fully, and

I did allude to this in my post. Um. I had not seen

or spoken to bed in quite a few years. Um. Not because of

any problem between us or anything like that. Um, just because I'm really

bad at you know, I'm not. I'm not someone who really goes out

of my way to you know, keep up with old friends. You know.

It does, and that's not a bad thing. It just is it

does. And I and I certainly don't think I certainly don't think there's anything

unusual about that, you know. I I think part of it is the

human condition, because I think I think most people are like that, really,

I mean, UM, to be honest with you, I also think

that, you know, we talk on the show a lot about social media

and and the positives and negatives of it, and I always say the positive,

you know, the positives far outweigh the negatives. But I think too.

One of the one of the ways that social media has kind of changed

the nature of friendship is that it almost in a way makes it. Ah,

it's gonna it might sound strange, but it's how how you know.

I'm just I'm thinking about this stuff because because of what happened. Um,

I think in a way it almost makes it. It almost offers an excuse.

Excuse isn't the right word, but I'm just kind of I've never tried

to articulate any of this before, but so we'll just go with excuse to

kind of take people for granted in a in a sense, because if you're

on one hand, it's wonderful that you can connect with people from the past

so easily and and and get in touch with them and so forth. But

at the same time, I think there's this thing that happens where, you

know, once you're connected to somebody on social media, it's kind of like,

Okay, so we're still in each other's lives. We're connected on Facebook,

or we follow each other on Instagram or whatever, and it's like,

but that's not really still being a part of each other's lives, but you

kind of feel like it is in a way, and then and then what

is that? But what is that really worth having been connected with someone on

social media when they're gone? Like like, if I'm connected to somebody on

social media and it's someone who was such an important part of my life and

someone who I loved like a brother, um, but then I never actually

talked to them because in the back of my mind it's like, well,

I know they're there, we're Facebook friends. But but then one day they're

gone, and it's like I am, you know, and then it's now

I can't even you know, if I just have the urge one day to

just message him on just a simple message, I can't even do that.

He's gone, and and I, uh, that's uh, that's a strange

thing. I just uh. I mean, if you take social media out

of the equation, it's like, you know, somebody passes away you didn't

see for a long time, you know, that's uh, that's uh,

you know, and then and then you know, you get the news and

it's terrible. But then with social media in the equation, it's like it's

almost like you're connected with them. It's almost like they're in the next room,

like you live, like you're you're living next door to each other in

an apartment complex, right and there's someone who matters to you. They're very

important to you because they've had a huge impact on your life. And it

might have been you know, fifteen sixteen, however many years ago, but

they've had an important impact on your life. But you never actually bothered to

interact with them even though they're right there next door, because you're you're connected

on social media. You're good, you know what I mean. Does any

of this make sense? It does make sense. This is all going through

my head. See. The thing about that is, like I have I

can't know what you're feeling right now, absolutely cannot know what you're feeling right

now, and I wouldn't even begin to try. But I have I do

have friends that I've been friends with from you know, high school or even

in my early twenties, um, that were in my everyday life back then.

Um, And they're not in my everyday life right now, and they

are very important to me. And you know, if they reach out,

I'm always right there. And if I reach out, I know they're always

right there. And it happens every once in a while we'll have this interaction.

You know where you reconnect for some reason and it's like, yeah,

you're still there. I know you're still there. You know. Um,

yeah, I don't want any I can't imagine like what exactly you're feeling in

this moment, but you can't. It's not about the what if or the

or the beat beat yourself up. The important thing is that you're friends.

You care about each other, and if at any moment in time, either

of you had reached out to the other and said, hey, bro,

I need you would have been right there and heartbeat. That's that's friendship.

Whether you speak to someone every day or they cross your path every now and

again, it doesn't degrade the friendship that you have, and it doesn't belittle

how much or how little communication you have. Yeah, it's the um I

think for me because I can't because it's like uh my friend uh Stump who

had I played with him in a couple of different bands. Actually he was

He was the original drummer for My Life Crisis, So he wasn't in the

band the same day as Ben was. He was the he was the original

drummer, and then he left and was replaced by a guy named Andrew Tried

or and then he left and was replaced by Jesse Boland. But um,

I can't think of another instance like this is the first, you know,

like going through life, you know, you you have those firsts of losing

people, like you know, like you lose your like you lose your first

family member, you know, like like when somebody in your family passes away,

you know, which obviously that you go through that when you're a kid,

you know, usually pretty young, you go through that the first and

and that's that's always weird. And then or or maybe your first co worker,

you know, so you hear somebody used to work with who passed so

used to work with who passed away, and you go, wow, I

haven't lost anybody I used to work with. But this is the this is

the only instance, at least unless this is something happened to somebody else that

I'm not aware of. Um, this is the first instance of somebody I

used to make music with who's passed away. And like, like Stump said,

it's it's uh. I don't know if he even goes by Stump anymore.

I should probably just call him Peter Peter Turgeon for all I know.

He doesn't even go buy stump anymore. But it's like he said, it's

it's it's uh, there's a bond there, So it's it's weird, it's

it's um, it's uh, it's just really kind of jarring. It's like,

that's my first the first person that I ever had that bond with,

that kind of a bond has passed away. And and with that there's that

feeling of and this this kind of goes back to my you know what I

was I'm saying before about you know, you're connected to somebody on social media,

but you don't ever actually talk to them. With that comes that um

that that worry about did they did they leave without ever knowing? Because I

certainly never told him, Did they leave without ever knowing how much they really

meant to me and impacted my life? You know, it's like when um,

like when when Normoody passed away. Yeah, you know, I had

a bond with him because that was the first television show I ever did,

was peing his co host on Norman Friends, and I remember, you know,

and for eight years I was his co host, and that and being

his co host led to a lot of other opportunities. For example, I

don't think there's any way I would have ended up here doing this show on

WMH had I not been Norm's co host. That was my first, you

know, real experience being behind a microphone, where you know, I got

to kind of build my on air persona and have the confidence and whatnot.

And I just I just remember going Wow. I wonder did he ever real

I always knew it, But did he know how much he had done for

me? Did he realize how much of an impact he had had on my

life? I think he did. I'm not sure I think he did.

But with Bennet's like, damn, did he did? Did he have any

idea? I hope so, But I don't know because I never told him.

I mean, I'm sure he's got He had all the same memories that

I did of being in the band together, right, we shared all those

great times. So hopefully he knew from an outsider looking in the way that

you the way that you treat people, the way that you interact with people.

I can't imagine anybody in your in your orbit that doesn't know what you

feel about them. You're very good about showing your appreciation to people and the

way that you interact with them. I just can't imagine anybody being in your

circle. I'm not going you know, that's a really great guy. I'm

glad he's in my life, you know. Or you guys got to create

things together. That's a magic in and of itself that most people don't have

as a part of friendship or even as part of family. You you you

birth things together, you created things together other and music is something that's so

special. Yeah, you know, I would like to think, and I

would think the person that you are that I know you of now and I

didn't know you then, I have little doubt in my mind that the feelings

weren't mutual. Yeah, it sounds like a really great memories to hold on

too, too. Oh. Absolutely absolutely. It's so strange that just yesterday

I was thinking about that that day that we did the two shows, you

know, because i'm you know, and just in my day to day life.

It's not like I spend a lot of time thinking about you know,

I don't know, Like I said, in some ways, it seems like

another lifetime, and in some ways it seems like a last week. But

the chapter, yeah, it's a total chapter. Yeah, I am going

to uh in a in a couple of moments, I am going to play

a song, one of the My Life Crisis songs I actually so what we'll

what we'll do is well, we'll play that and then we'll come back and

like I said, we'll kind of reset and do the to our regular opening.

Although I do have a couple of more songs that I will play throughout

the show. I'll play a song at the top of the hour break like

I usually do, I'll play another My Life Crisis song, and then one

more to end the show later today to kind of honor Ben. But um,

I do want to look at these Facebook chat comments too. I don't

know if if either of the other guys, if they're able to listen live.

Who were I was communicating with today, But Melanie la Liberty is in

the chat. Hello Melanie, and from of course the great State of Vermont.

Mike from Queen City Cabinetry one of our great sponsors here at WM ANDH,

and of course Mike is one of our co hosts on retro Spectrum Radio

on Friday nights. He's in the chat room. Fredo, or as I

like to say his full name, Alfredo Enrique Benavitis, who was on the

show recently with Dank Sinatra. Hello, yes, yes, and he gave

me quite a good number of references. Oh, good, good, excellent,

excellent, Jenny, I see you're in there. Of course, I'm

everywhere. Fredo says, sorry for your loss. Melanie says sorry. Matt.

Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina says, Matt, I'm sorry.

Uh, let's see, Fredo says Matt the Don Connerton, Yeah, I

see. I have a funny thing about that. You're Vanilla. How can

you be the do? I was the done. I can't see you as

the Don. I was the Dawn. I think it was because I was

kind of the business guy in the band, so I was I was the

don. Uh. You know, if you want to book my life Crisis,

you got to talk to the Dawn. I think it was like that.

But but I also seem to recall I think at one point there were

there were two downs, because there was because there were two Matts. There

was myself and Matt Beauvaire, and I seem to remember Matt deciding that we

were the Downs of Conquered because we were both Matt, so we were both

done. I don't know, it's it's it's it's all very fuzzy to me.

But then he decided that kind of like the Highlander in the end,

there can only be one done. So he decided that I was the Don,

and then I became the Don. It got to a point where no

one called me Matt anymore. Like it really caught on, like even even

like just like friends of the band, when just started calling me the Don,

and it was never done. It was the down interesting. I think

I think there were I think there were people who came you were like the

crap the whip die, huh. I think there were people who came to

our shows who who I'm serious when I say this, I think there were

people at our shows who genuinely did not know my actual name was done.

Yeah, yeah, it was what did you guys have? Like a five

o'clock show and then like a ten o'clock How did you make the Oh that

the day we did the two shows, I was expecting states next to one

another nine it was Connecticut. That surprises me. We yeah, we uh,

you know, we were all always networking. That was one of the

reasons why we were able to play so much. Like I said, that

was by far the busiest lineup of my life crisis. We played every weekend,

usually both Friday and Saturday, maybe Thursday, maybe Sunday, and uh,

you know, but because we were always networking, you know, we

had a lot of connections, and we had a lot of connections in Connecticut.

And there was a promoter in Connecticut. It was name I cannot possibly

remember, who really liked us and what was always inviting us to play shows.

So we were actually playing a lot of shows in Connecticut. And yeah,

he approached me about about this one show, and there were other bands

on the show we really wanted to play with. He said, you guys

can you guys want to come down and open. By the way, gas

was cheap at that time, so you know, that wasn't what wasn't really

a hardship traveling, not like it is now. So m So it was

seven o'clock we went on. We had to be there for a six pm

load in. We went on at seven. I think we played for forty

minutes as soon as we were done, and we were really efficient too,

We were a well oiled machine. We were very efficient. So we got

there, played played our set. I remember not wanting to leave, but

we had to. I remember not wanting to because everybody there was so nice.

It was just a really good scene, you know, everybody was so

cool. We really wanted to stay for the other bands, and we had

to kind of sheepishly explain no, sorry, we can't stay, but we

got this other show. Again. In hindsight, given the debacle we came

back to when we got to the Bomb Shelter, I wish we had just

stayed. But yeah, yeah, when we got when we got back to

Manchester, we walked into something that no fault of our own. It wasn't

great, but but that place was run not well at times. I have

a lot of great memories of the Bomb Shelter on Eddie Road here in Manchester,

and some not so great ones, but I don't want to get into

that. But yeah, so we played at seven. I think we're out

of there. We were done by five, out of the venue, packed

up on the road, headed back by eight. Really Oh yeah, oh

yeah, that's quick. Oh yeah, oh there is Maddie's in the chat

room. Matthew Bovair. He says, what's up down? Excuse me,

that's the dawn. What's up the dawn? He says, thanks, so

much for doing this. It does me some good listening to this. Thank

you, my friend, thank you. Um and what time was just that

here? Well, so we got back yeah, so we got back to

Manchester and then we so uh all right, yeah, yeah, I'll go

ahead and tell it. So, yeah, we get back to Manchester.

And the thing about the Bomb Shelter was when that place first opened, well,

notice it's no longer around and it hasn't been around for a long time,

and those reasons. When that place first opened, it was great and

it was it was a cool it was a cool place to play. Serge

who owned it, and his wife, they were very very nice and very

friendly to everybody in the local scene and very enthusiastic. But I think they

spread themselves a little too thin after a while. So on more than one

occasion this happened where we would get there and Surge wasn't there, and I

think it was his brother, who was a sound guy wasn't there, and

it was like there was just nobody in charge, and whoever was working there

wasn't interested in being in charge. So we get there and there's a bunch

of bands booked, but nobody knows what the lineup is supposed to be.

Nobody knows what's going on, and I think there were a couple of times

where we actually it was situations where it was okay because like all the bands

that were playing that night kind of knew each other and were friendly and were

able to work out set times and everything amongst ourselves. We had to take

it up upon ourselves because nobody was in charge, nobody was us anything.

So after a while it started to be run and I'm sure I'm sure Maddie

remembers this. It started to be run very sloppily that particular night. So

we get there late. We had worked it out with everybody, we were

going to be getting there late because we had the other show. Everybody knew

that, every Surge knew, his wife knew. I made sure everybody knew,

everybody knew the deal, and everyone was cool, and we get there

and it's like so many bands booked. It's like usually you would see in

those days. I don't think this has really done much anymore. In those

days, at a place like that, you would have five bands in a

night wow, which would usually be one too many, you know, four

bands, even four bands would seem crowded. But the idea was get as

many bands in there as possible and hope they all bring some people, get

as many people in the door as possible, and that, Yeah, that

was the business model. And and but I don't know if anybody really operates

that way anymore, because frankly, it's a failed business model. But yeah,

there would very often be five bands in a night. But I think

that was one of those nights. We got there and there's like eight bands

booked because they overbooked because they were disorganized, and somebody tells us, Okay,

you guys are on next, and so we're trying to load our gear

on. Meanwhile there's this other band also trying to load their gear on because

somebody else told them they were on next. And I think we won the

argument, but I'm not sure it was. It was just awful. Yeah,

and then it was like, oh god, we should have just we

should have just stuck around in Connecticut and stayed for the other bands and then

come home. But you'll live in you'll learn. But but like I said

earlier, though I was so at the same time, I was just very

proud that, you know, everybody in the band wanted to you know that

we, like I said, we had a lot of ambition and everybody was

up for it, you know, doing the two shows. And I think

that's a nice feather any cat running and gunning, you know, especially the

distance. Yeah, yeah, but uh but yeah, it was quite a

Yeah, Maddie says that band was not happy. Good thing. Our drummer

was the biggest guy in the club. Yes, yeah, Jesse Bowland rock

and rolling Jesse Boland, you know, And I was always uh and I

am to this day. I've always been envious of his name because that's his

real name, Jesse Bolan. Yeah, such a such a rock and roll

name, Jesse Bolan. Jesse's a good name. It's such a cool name.

But Bolan is cool to Jesse Bowl. It's just a cool It's just

a cool name, you know what I mean. It is And m you

knows off the tongue. Now, Matt Connerton not such a cool name.

I mean, it works well in the name of a radio show, but

uh, you know, no wonder they wanted to call him. I think

that's the real reason they called me the dun because Matt Connerton is just there's

nothing rock and roll about Matt Connerton. You know what I mean. Conton

is not uh Conorton does not scream rock star. It's more like an internist,

I know, right exactly. I think it sounds like a radio show

host. That's that's how you know. That's how I got the I'm not

going to start calling you the don That's how I got the gig here.

You know what the wrong armed your way in. No, that's how I

got the show. Because they were auditioning. They were gonna have a show

called Matt Connerton Unleashed, and I sent in, I applied and I said,

well, my name is Matt Connerton and then uh and and it came

down to me and uh the one other Matt Connerton in New Hampshire, who's

my uncle. But my uncle lives on the seacoast. He would have had

to commute. So they said, okay, I guess we'll give you the

show. But uh yeah, Maddie says, uh, Beauvaire isn't very metal

l O L yeah. But even Bouvaire is uh yeah, but that's uh,

at least it's I don't know, it's French. Yeah, it's French,

so it's kind of metal, I guess, right, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know if that's I just know that my

name is my name was always in any band I've ever been in. My

name was the least metal. That's all I know. He's just we You

should try and like play with it, maybe like spell it with some symbols

or something. Oh or maybe change the sea or k and do some accenting.

I don't know, right, yeah, right. Mike from Queen City

Cabinetry said, is that like Greg Brady getting me Johnny Bravo gig. That's

right. I fit the suit. That's how I got the show when it's

time to change. That's how I got in all the bands I was into.

That's how I got the You know, it's not like I could actually

play the bass. Stop shit, don't be that way. Fredo in the

Fredo in the chat room says, uh, you know talking about you know

what I was talking about earlier. About social media. He says, it's

all part of processing the grief. Social media is online, and social media

only friends are really just acquaintances. He was your end in real life,

and there's a gap that social media will never bridge. Yeah, And Mike

says, I very well put uh Fredo, yes, yes, Um,

all right, well we will uh well, we'll play Uh well, we're

gonna play a song and then we'll we'll move on. But uh, thank

you all and uh you know again, condolences to uh to everybody the family

and uh like I said, I think he had a couple of daughters,

if I'm not mistaken. Um uh Ben Brackett York from again, just just

wonderful memories from being in in that band with him and of course with uh

with Maddie Beauvaire and Jesse Boland and everybody else who played and uh you know,

Dave Blaize, he and Ben were at one point we had there was

some that was kind of the bridge between lineups where both Dave Blaze and uh

Ben we're on guitar. In My Life Crisis we were sometimes we were a

four piece and sometimes we were a five piece. That fluctuated over the years.

But um, now, just just so many, uh so many wonderful

memories and uh I love you, Ben, and uh we will um we

will finish the segment with and again I will. I am gonna play a

couple more My Life Crisis songs later in the show. But we're we'll finish

this segment and then we'll uh and then we'll move on to some other h

I don't know if you all have noticed, but there's been a lot going

on in the news really, like what, well, was there a storm

somewhere. I've heard the word I've heard the word espionage recently. No,

no, no, no, pretty heavily. Anyway, we will so we'll

we'll move on in the next segment, but we're gonna close out with this.

I'm gonna play this is a song called House of Pain from My Life

Crisis. This was kind of a kind of a crowd favorite. Um actually,

I think this song actually spanned every lineup of the band over the years.

But um, yeah, this was, like I said, this was

a this was a crowd favorite. And uh and and Maddie's vocal on this

is incredible. He really uh emotes as we say. So. Uh So

let's give this a listen and then we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors,

and then we'll kind of back, we'll kind of we'll come back and

kind of reset for the rest of the show. So don't go anywhere anywhere

but here it is. This is House of pain, my life crisis and

none, I said with an empty page, mighty heart fields up with rage,

trying to pull into words one of trying the same in a stand space

with my sleep be eyes lighting a beer had a real line just how you

entire was never meant to pay. Why my God, lie up time tie

It is unfair because it has no choice, no opinion, send no clear

voice. It didn't ask to be born into this world. Now I can

promise and I'll be there to love your child with your cold and hair into

my best to shield you promote this hell must bring up bright stie, I

tie up, But it's a stile blin lakesime now way, time must bring

up my bright silve like he sign up sile blind lakes out way. Time

must bring up my time up with a stile blind lakes up away. Time

must bring up now, I said in my page, is falling in debriate

and feeling you know, feeling better and feeling there's no way down. And

I swear I thought I could clear up again, Just swear I thought that

it was the year you remy yell the face with a new start, feeling

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and former bandmate Ben Brackett York. If you know, we'll we're gonna move

on to some other things. But if anyone wants to call in, if

anyone who uh, you know, any of my former bandmates or anyone at

all, does want to call in and say anything about Ben, I'm not

saying that we're going to leave that entirely behind as we proceed with the show.

You know, we're gonna we are going to get into some other some

news items and so forth. But if, but if you do want to

talk, if anyone wants to talk about Ben, we certainly can do that

as well. So I don't want anyone to feel like, Okay, that's

it. We've moved on. Um, and I am going to be playing

some more My life crisis later in the show. So so the studio line

is open for anyone for any reason. Six zo three two five O six

Z seven six three two five six seven, Um, Yes, what do

you want to talk about? Well, uh, it does seem I don't

know, I mean it seems like the news. Yeah, I don't I

don't have that queued up. Oh you know what, though, I'm going

to be creating a new soundboard for myself because if you noticed over the past

I don't know, months, probably maybe maybe even a year, that you

don't hear the uh you know the you have some sound clips we'd hear on

the show. Yeah you know why those went away? Why because the website

that I was using, soundboard dot com, it uh, it started having

all kinds of weird issues. And I thought you were gonna say it was

all gone, like gone gone, isn't. Well no, So here's here's

the thing. Now, when I go to sound so after months I had

given up on it, I would go to soundboard dot com. The website

would come up, it would let me sign in and everything. But then

if I would try to go to any of my soundboards, I would get

this weird error message. And if I tried to go to somebody else,

any other soundboards that are listed, because if you put a soundboard on soundboard

dot com, it is public, so anyone. That's why it's free because

other people can use it too. So then the other day, after not

going on soundboard dot com for a long time, I went on and it's

a new website and everything is restored, everything works again. So they must

have been doing some sort of migration or they needed to move to a new

server. But I have my soundboards back. Oh yes, I have.

I have my virtual Dave Ridley soundboard bat, I have my I think I

have my virtual John Hopwood soundboard back. Oh yes, um, I have

one. I have. I have a soundboard back that I can't actually technically

use anymore on the show for reasons we won't get into here. I know

what it is. Um now, the only one I don't have for some

reason, although let me try logging in again. Do you have the ghost

of John McCain. Well, that one wasn't mine, so that one never

Actually I just stopped doing that one because I felt like the bit played itself

out. Yeah, um, the only one I had. I had one

about I had one for Trump that I had built. That one seems to

have disappeared, figures right, I had that. I had that one where

you know, somebody's basement. Yeah, maybe it's in somebody's basement, it's

not right. I had that. I had that Trump one where my favorite

clip of all time was when he goes I suit. You know, I

I'm terrible at him rashions, as you know. But the one where he

goes I stoomed up here giving speeches for an hour and a half, many

times without notes. I just love that. That's like my favorite Trump clip

ever and that. But that one is gone. I bet you can find

it though. Yeah, I've tried. I'll try again, though. But

the other ones I have, everything is restored. It's it's wonderful. Why

am I talking about that again? How did I end up on that?

Um? I don't know. I don't know either. Jay Fed says in

the chat room, did you see any boxes in the news? Well,

I tell you what a lot. I've seen a lot of boxes. I've

seen boxes on top of boxes. By the way, I wanted we got

to defend him on on one thing because so I said this on Facebook too.

Melanie had posted a picture of you know, the beautiful bathroom with the

boxes and you've got the wonderful You've got the chandeliers and everything, And I

said, I said on Facebook, you know, it could have been worse.

He could have he could have shoved them in the you know, in

the bathroom of the local circle, okay up the street. But instead they're

in this very nice bathroom with chandeliers. Nice tight. I mean, listen,

if you're going to I think this and that, well, that's disgusting.

I I think if you're going to look, if you have uh,

boxes and boxes and boxes of classified information, if you're going to put them

in the bathroom, it might as well be a fancy bathroom. So I

say, he got that one right, and I will defend him on that.

It might be the only thing I ever defend him on. But at

least it's a fancy bathroom. He didn't put it to qualify his fancy what

it's not so big. All I know is I see chandeliers. I say,

fancy schmancy bathroom. Is uh, that's that's fancy. I mean I've

never I don't think in my life I've ever been inside a bathroom with chandeliers.

So I see chandeliers and I go, that is fancy. You should

put some classified documents in here. It's ego and a half boy m ballroom.

And he says in the chat it was a single sink bathroom, so

you know it was a servants bathroom. See that's a good point. I

had no tub, just to stand up shower. Oh I hadn't thought of

that. Yeah, I hadn't thought of that. That ain't a special people.

So maybe that poor folk, maybe that was not an appropriate place to

put those of that is what you're saying, all right, But somebody who

grew up the way he grew up, I wouldn't expect to be able to

think quite clearly. I'm trying to keep an open mind. He's just used

to having his arms wide open, going mine, mine, mine. He

was born that way. Paul played that Friday night on Retrospectrum Radio. Mine

well, arms one open by that one, Melanie. Melanie also points out,

and it wasn't gold plated. This is true. That's uh, that's

true too, Okay, definitely for the probably definitely the servant level bathroom,

for certain. I know that's what it is. I know why though,

I know why if he has kicking on anything that's not gold if he had

put it, if he had put it in a nicer bathroom than that bathroom,

people would have gotten suspicious. People would have said, hey, why

is he putting those boxes in the really nice bathroom? Who had to use

that bathroom? I like Melanie's point, who had to use that bathroom?

And then what happens when you flush? Well, I don't even want to

think about that. I'm sure the paper. I'm sure the good people at

the FBI wore gloves, I hope so, and masks maybe and inhale that

stuff. Charles Charles Richardson joins us in the chat. He says, I

think if there is a TV in the bathroom, that would be my throne.

I don't remember seeing a television in that particular bathroom, though I could

believe him being somebody that he's to have a TV in the bathroom. Oh

well. Um, and Isaac Banks says a high hashtag gen coffee, what's

your favorite hoodie? And the blowfish song is? Is it hold my Hand

or old Man and Me? So you have two choices, Okay, I'll

go with hold my hand. Okay, here we go Nextum, Melanie says,

I like Melanie's point. I get that a lot. Well, you

know, when you're right, you're right, very nice. It's just has

how it has to be. So he is, uh, he should be

in Florida now, right. He was taken off on the plane and he's

in Florida now. Not for long, not for long. He has to

turn himself in to be formally arrested by the FDPI. Sometime tomorrow. They

haven't given us a time slot. But then he jumps right back on a

plane, goes right back to his New Jersey golf estate for a fundraiser because

of course he's gonna make money, because he's gonna be begging for money out

of this. Oh, give me money. Oh he barely asked a beg.

I mean, he raked a lot of I don't remember the number,

and they do. They just throw it at him. He raped in a

lot of money over the weekend. They just throw it at him. Yeah,

it's awful. Well, uh, you know, it's a business,

and business is good for him. It always has been. I mean,

you know, his ego outweighs everybody's truth or opinion. I suppose, including

truth, real truth, just cold hire truth. That man decides the sky

is purple, he'll pay and pay and pay until everybody around him says it's

purple. Um, there may be already there may have already emerged an escape

hatch. By the way, So for everyone who thinks, oh, oh

hello to Tom Sapienza, who joins us in the chat room high top.

For everyone who thinks that, uh that this is that you know, this

is the thing that's going to bring him down not so fast. Um,

is the name Eilean Cannon familiar to you? No, okay, So Eilean

Cannon is the judge, Oh yeah, who got smacked down by the Eleventh

Circuit before when when this uh, when this case originally initially went before her,

um over the special Master and everything, and really, uh, they

felt that and these these judges, the panel on the Eleventh Circuit conservative judges.

The Eleventh Circuit is very conservative, many of them appointed by Trump,

many of them Trump appointed judges. Uh. They said that she clearly uh,

in at least two instances, really put her thumb on the scale in

favor of Trump, showed a lot of favoritism towards Trump. And uh so

she got smacked down for that. Well, guess who's in charge of somehow

magically pulled to be the supposed supposedly allegedly this is uh, she was chosen

at random. Supposedly. I don't know. I ain't buying it, but

all right, well I don't know. I mean, I will you know,

coincidences are possible. I'm not one of these people who says I don't

believe in coincidences. I do believe in coincidences, and uh so that that

may very well be, but this could be this could be the escape hatch

for him because here's the thing. She's in charge. I can see a

couple of different ways that this could go where he actually gets out of this

this. Now, this doesn't make his other legal issues go away, but

the most severe legal issue is this. He may yet get out of this

because a couple things that she could do. I mean, first of all,

she's going to be in charge of scheduling this thing. She could say,

you know, there's no way we're going to be able to try this

case until twenty twenty five. Oh, I believe that. I believe that's

going to happen. They're already trying to. Yeah, right now, that

that could very well happen. Now if she does that and the Eleventh does

not overrule her on that, and I'm not sure exactly, I mean,

you know, I'm not a legal expert, and I don't know exactly how

that all works, all the processes they're in. But if she does that,

then what could happen conceivably is he could win. If he wins the

election, as soon as he's president, this goes away he'll be in charge

of the Department of Justice. This goes away in pardon himself. Well,

maybe maybe there was talk that he was going to do that before he left

office. Yeah, that's that's still an open question because it's never been tested.

They're different opinions on whether a president can or cannot pardon himself. I

don't think you can if there isn't a charge on the books, and it

can only be been a charge on the books, then I think maybe it

was possible, and it can only be for federal crimes, not state which

I didn't even know until a few years ago. He has charged federally on

this one, im this one. Yeah, so right. So the other

thing that could happen is she might not you know, she might say,

Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and schedule the and um. But then Trump's

defense team could make emotion saying, you know, come on, now,

this isn't you can't. You can't try this case before the election. He's

not only is he a former president of the United States, but he's an

active candidate for the presidency. You can't try this case during an election.

And you see, if the arrayment itself gets pushed back because he still doesn't

have a Florida qualified attorney to represent him. Well, there is that.

That's another potential wrinkle. But I'm just saying, Eileen Cannon may just give

him an escape hatch and say no, no, no, we're just we're

delaying. We're delaying this. You know, if she decides that, in

other words, if the defense team makes that motion and she says, yeah,

sounds good, We'll just delay this till after the election, no problem.

So don't think that, uh, you know, anybody who's crowing about,

well, this will be his undoing, not necessarily. Um did also

just schedule it for December? I mean, Bill Barr said he's toast,

but but that's uh, doesn't mean anything. Oh and by the way,

about about Bill Barr, William Barr, who certainly I think was very loyal

to Trump, uh during his tenure as Attorney general. This is just kind

of a side note. But Trump made uh, you know, we heard

it together. Trump made a fat joke about Bill Barr, just like he

recently made a fat joke about Chris Christie jerk. Um. I just don't

understand, uh, like, does he not realize he's overweighted himself? That's

not how a bully works. The man is a bully. He's been a

bully since he was born. Anytime he wants something, he gets it.

He only knows that if he pushes hot enough, he gets what he wants.

No, but I just wonder is there something first time in his life

he hasn't been able to do that. Is there something psychological though, where

he just doesn't like, I'm serious, because the psycholog do you have?

This type of thing is just really interesting to me. Is there something psychological

where he just doesn't know? Like he just doesn't realize he doesn't say.

I doubt he sees himself in the same category. I agree with you on

that one. Yeah, but he doesn't know how to be nice to anybody

that he perceives as being on the wrong side. The minute he thinks that

you've done something he doesn't like, you get a nickname, or you get

harassed, or you get you know, called things or fat jokes like he

did today. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's just who this man

is. He is an absolute bully, and he leads every ounce of his

decision making with his ego. So here's what this is from insider an opinion

don't you think? Insider says, So, you think they've got Trump right

where they want him? A wait till you hear what this former federal prosecutor

turned high in defense attorney has to say. So some bullet points from this.

It says, it sure looks like they've got Trump where they want him,

except he's probably going to get a favorable judge and she'll have enormous power

to prevent Trump from getting convicted. So some details here. It says,

if you think the former president is finally really actually, but for real this

time, about to face justice, hold on for just one moment. He

may have an easy out. Yes, it sounds like this new indictment against

Trump is a pretty strong one. Even Fox News's top legal comment or thinks

so. He called it extremely damning, and I guess that's a reference to

Bill Barr. And when we're not, I'm sorry, And we're not seeing

nearly as much skepticism as we saw after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's indictment either,

But one former federal prosecutor turned high in defense attorney, Ken White,

sees a quick path out of trouble for Trump. He said, all Trump

needs is a judge completely in the tank for him, a judge who is

willing to sacrifice their reputation in order to protect him. White thinks Trump might

get one judge I lean Cannon, and by the way, that does seem

to be the case. As my colleagues, including Kimberly Leonard, reported Friday,

Cannon was why criticized last year when she ruled that an independent arbiter would

have to review all the documents at the fbi c's from mar Lago. The

Department of Justice appealed the decision and was rewarded with a brutal rebuke of Cannon

by the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. The SmackDown was particularly notable because it

came from a panel of judges that included several appointed by Republicans in addition to

being a fancy defense lawyer who also co hosts a legal podcast with Josh Barrow

called Serious Trouble. Reflecting on Cannon's ruling to a point an independent arbiter called

a special Master, and other decisions she made during the government's investigation into Trump's

handling of classified documents, Barrow said to White on the podcast that Kennon has

shown a quote willingness to behave in a way that most judges likely would not,

even if they were partisan Republicans unquote. White replied, sure, she's

willing to violate the meat loaf rule. I'll do anything for love, but

I won't do that unquote. I didn't know that was Apparently that's I don't

know if that's a technical legal parlance, the meat low rule, But that's

interesting. White said that there are usually a number of factors that smooth even

partisan judges out and move them into the middle. He listed a few quote

their relationship with other colleagues, their reputation, they're hopes to be elevated to

a higher bench, their place in history, you know, cocktail party's opinion

of lawyers, all that sort of thing. But sometimes judges just don't give

a blank. And Judge Cannon's behavior in this case in the past was several

very long strides in this direction of don't give a blank unquote. Why it

suspects Cannon maybe imagining what she might be able to get out of a second

Trump presidency, He said, quote, you have a situation where it is

not even remotely difficult to imagine her acquitting Trump. Trump getting elected Trump elevating

her to the Eleventh Circuit or the Supreme Court. He would totally do it.

His fans would be completely fine with it, and it would be just

a giant middle finger to the country. And I mean he would do it

unquote. So how exactly, now this is now guests of the important part.

So how exactly could Cannon protect Trump and end this case against him?

In a moment, White said, quote, she can delay things forever by

making rulings that cannot be appealed. She can make rulings that, while they

don't tank the case, make it very difficult, like excluding evidence by saying

evidence was wrongfully gathered. And that can be something that is a very unfavorable

standard on appeal. So, for instance, if she started to rule all

these statements Trump made, that's too prejudicial, it's unfair. I'm keeping it

out. If that goes up on appeal, that's an abuse of discretion standard,

and normally you can't appeal it before the case unquote. White went on

to say how Cannon could go even further quote most drastically, she can do

things that can't be repaired once a jury is impaneled. She can dismiss the

case and there's not a thing anyone can do about it. Double jeopardy attaches

you're done. She can grant a motion for directed verdict of acquittal after the

government's case, and then we're done. You can't be retired, can't be

reviewed, it's over. Unquote White's analysis on the Serious Trouble podcast left Borrow

a little stunned. Borrow asked White, quote, is it possible that the

Department of Justice is walking us into a situation that not only could fail to

obtain convictions here, but they could end up setting off a chain of events

that's quite damaging to the federal judiciary. Absolutely, White said. He went

on, quote, people are saying that by charging Trump, you're rilling up

his base, You're made him more likely he's going to get elected, and

then he's going to have a more conservative judicialry. Andslayed himself more a pardon

himself, all this type of stuff. And it's all true, and that

is perfectly possible. But if you're the DOJ, you can't think that way.

Okay, you simply can't think that we now have to retreat from rule

of law because it's too politically costly. If they do that, they're basically

sort of giving up quote. So so there you go. So they lay

out on that podcast multiple possibilities. Yeah, this could drag on until after

his presidency if he got reelected again legitimately could well that's the thing. Yeah,

Um maybe if he's found guilty, I mean, it still be president.

Well another possibility is so it gets delayed until after his presidency, so

then he's uh so then if he gets elected and he serves four years,

and then uh, how does that work with his clarence and then when he's

out, oh, with his scarce security clarence, if you're under investigation for

aking your security clearance, I don't know. I'm sure there's plenty of people

in the intelligence agencies who I'm sure there's enough people who are who will find

a way to make sure that you know, Trump loyalists. Because here's the

thing about that, something that people forget because it kind of went a little

bit under the radar. But when Trump lost the election, do you remember

this, he started, Um, he started changing out a lot of personnel

in government, in the intelligence agencies. Yes, and it didn't make any

sense because why would but there was a repent, But there was a reason.

So why, why would you see because you've never seen anything like this

before that there were a number of things with this election we'd never seen before

in the aftermath of it, of course, like January sixth, but something

that went a little bit under the radar that not everyone might realize. So

he started appointing people, getting rid of people after he had already lost.

Now, why would you do that if you're the outgoing president and a new

administration is coming in, you don't do that. You don't mess with it.

Would It would be the equivalent of you know, you're working at a

job and you've given you know, you've given your two weeks notice you're leaving,

but on your way out. In that last two weeks, you make

a bunch of personnel decisions for an office that you're not even gonna be managing

anymore as soon. It wouldn't make sense, right, But there's a concept

called the burrowing in, and that's what Trump was doing. He was putting

people loyal to him in place, even though he was on his way out,

and he knew he was on his way out, but he was hiring

all these people and putting them in place. Why would you do that?

Because you're going to be trying to get back there someday and you're going to

need those people. So if he has enough of those people in place,

if he even if you know, there's obvious questions about his security clearance,

if he is reelected, well he's got people in place to make sure,

No, he has a smooth ride with all of that. He's he's already

got the Yeah, like you said, the Pentagon. Yeah, he made

sure he burrowed in. That's what it's called burrowing in. Just usually nobody

to help him out too. I mean, look at him, what do

you mean all the changes that they've made, they're you know, they're they're

helping them out. I'm sure, um, you know. Yeah, we

are just past the top of the hour. So let's um, let's take

a break. I'm gonna play another My Life Crisis song if you're just joining

us. My Life Crisis if you don't know. My Life Crisis was a

band that I was in with my friend Ben Brackett York, who I got

the word today that he has passed away. So to honor him, we're

playing a few My Life Crisis songs today. So we're gonna play, um,

let's do this. This one's called half Fast. Uh, this is

a this is a great track. I ran this suits him some software today

to kind of make it radio ready because it's more of more of a demo

recording. But but I think it's I think it sounds pretty good. So

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Chris from Edgewise is in the chat room and says love the tracks, referring

to the My Life Crisis songs kind of reminds me of another society ever hear

of them around that time National Act. That name is super familiar to me,

another society, but I don't remember them, but I will look them

up because now I am very curious. And you are wearing your Edgewy Sat.

I am wearing my Edgewy Sat. Yes, Yes, I love the

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Big fan. Police. Of course host a retro Spectrum radio on Friday nights

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of being one of Paul's co hosts on that show along with DJ Steve and

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show. Do you know what? Yes, I do. Yes, going

to play the original versions of songs before demos as the writers intended demo versions,

which I'm excited about. Yeah that sounds awesome. Yeah, I'm I'm

excited about that too, you know. Um, of course as you know,

my favorite band is Kiss, and there's a lot of a lot of

Kiss demos on YouTube really, oh yeah, a lot of that stuff that's

leaked out over the years, and a couple of cases too where I actually

like the demos better than what ended up on the album when they're slightly different

versions. But yeah, there's, um, there's a lot of stuff.

But yeah, I love that. That's gonna be a really fun show.

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that one, so definitely. So retro

Spectrum Radio Friday night, Miriam Bannah shows us in the chat room and says,

good afternoon. Wow, I love the music I'm hearing well, thank

you, Mariam. Appreciate that that was a band that I was in a

while ago. Uh, Melanie says, what I thought it was going to

be Sounds of Birth. Uh uh No, that would be uh, that

would be strange. Now now I am certified and hypno birthing. I don't

know if you knew that true. I have an actual certificate and hypno birthing.

I don't accompany you to the hospital for the birth of your child,

but I do a session with you ahead of time to teach you some self

hypnosis techniques, who I'll help you through the process. So there you go.

Policy says we have more than YouTube down in the basement. Yes,

yes, you know, we have the uh the vast archive, the WMNH

archive here in the bowels. If I'm gonna use that of the building,

that's sounding a little grows the bowels of the building. And what Paul does.

Paul has to uh you know, it's this huge room in the basement,

the archives. And Paul goes down there with his his lantern and uh

looks around for for things to play on the show. Oh no, I'm

sorry, I actually no, he used as a flashlight now because you know

he almost uh you know, let the building on fire with the lantern.

That's very dangerous. You should not bring a lantern or any kind of or

even a lighter. Don't bring anything with the flame into the basement of archives,

especially in these old buildings. You know, they'll go up like uh

you know, like like something on fire like tinder. Yes, yes,

absolutely so, Yes, the the vast uh archives. Uh let's see six

ZO three two five six seven six ZO three two five six seven if you

would like to join us on the program today. By the way, we

were talking earlier about, you know, the the picture and the wonderful it's

very meimable the of course the picture going around of the the boxes in the

bathroom. Um. Funny thing about that now, when uh, Stephen Colmley

Senior, I brought the secret documents that he gave you know, if you

remember a few years ago, he brought two envelopes to WMNH, one for

me and one for Peter White of the Morning Show with Peter White. And

Uh, as you know, I the envelope of secret documents that he gave

to me. I sleep with it, you know, under the pillow every

night, so I think, so I can I can guard it. But

uh, Peter took his envelope and filed it somewhere. And uh and he

I know that he filed it somewhere where no one would think to look,

is what he told me, that no one would ever find it. But

I suspect he may have filed his in in fact a bathroom, perhaps a

bathroom waste basket. So circular file. Oh. By the way, Paul

says, uh, with the lanterns. The reason it's dangerous is there's a

lot of sixteenth century sheet music down there that's true, and and that that

actually burns quicker than than anything sixteenth century sheet music. The type of parchment

that was used, it's a highly flammable even more so than regular paper.

Was it hemp paper? I don't know. Wow, that that could be

very interesting if that catches on. In the day, everything was hemp paper.

Declaration of Independence is written on hemp paper. That's right, tree that,

that's right. You know. It used to actually be a lot of

grow it because it was used in the manufacture of the giant ropes. Yes,

for the giant ships. Yes, well can't they They can still do

it for can't they. The laws are different now, Yeah, but didn't

they change, haven't haven't The law has been changed again in some places where

they can go back to growing it. Oh yeah, and no, yeah,

yeah, yeah, hemp is legal to grow I think of most any

place. Now they may change at the federal level. That really opened things

up. Yeah, but I only know about this stuff because when I was

growing up in Plymouth, Massachusetts, this place called Cordage Park and that was

the old rope factory and you can go in there and see pieces of it.

And the ships used to be able to actually pull up quite far.

Oh okay, and get their ropes and giant ropes. Uh. So we

were talking about the bathroom earlier with the documents and the you know, the

chandelier is all fancy, um, and I happened to uh, I was

going to move on to another element of this, but then I happen to

see this on media apparently Kevin McCarthy House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Uh. He

says that he's arguing that Trump hoarding documents next to the toilet was sufficiently secure

because, quote, a bathroom door locks, but that doesn't fly under under

the It doesn't know the Federal Code of what is Uh, I can't think

of the right thing. It's as a code eighteen what is it eighteen?

US Code that they're charging him under, specifically Section F because I actually looked

this up. Um, if you're somebody who's been entrusted with having to be

able to lawfully possess these books or paperwork or whatever it is, you must

make sure that it is where it belongs. You cannot then be grossly negligent

and take it and put it where it doesn't belong. It has a place

that belongs. Yeah, right, classified documents is supposed to be with the

archivist and whatever department that they belong in. Yeah, that's where it's supposed

to be. You violate the code if you take it with you and go

mine. I'm not giving it back mine. Yeah. See, that doesn't

fly under the federal statute. Yeah, but if you put it in a

bathroom with a lock, that's not good enough. No, no, not

good enough because you have let's see you having knowledge that the lets it's not

sorry, Oh, it has to be in its proper place of custody or

so if it's been removed and it's not in its proper place of custody where

it's assigned to be, like these documents are, they have to be like

signed out suh, then you are violating US code under the Espionage Act,

Part F. Specifically, if you'd like to look up the language. Of

course, there are other areas of this code that he's completely violated. We

can go through that if you would like. But specifically, I drew my

attention to the section F because it addresses somebody who had the lawful right to

have the documents at one point but didn't leave them where they're supposed to be.

All right, let me throw this hypothetical at you or already. What

if what if they found themselves at the resort? Uh? What if they

happen to find themselves a little short on paper towels? You know. See

that doesn't count still because you have not put it where it rightfully belongs.

You see this, this file associated with nuclear things is supposed to be with

the nuclear thing. I may have been missing them, okay, may I

may have misunderstood what the control issue is here, you know, an intelligence

having to do with our capacity to defend ourselves or how we might attack someone,

say Iran. These two belong probably somewhere in the pentagonish kind of realm,

you know, military ish, yeah kind of realm. Yeah. So

so that again cannot hang out with Sharman, right right, Yeah, yeah,

so there's that. So um try again, Okay, keep throwing them

out right. Well, I think you can stump me. I understand it

better now. I just I was trying to think of I was trying to

think a little lot outside the box. Yes, it says here again this

is from media. I how Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended former President Donald Trump's a

storage of classified documents, telling reporters today that at least one of the now

viral photos allegedly showing the documents at his residence at Marlago was fine because quote

a bathroom door locks unquote. Last Friday, the doj unsealed the federal indictment

stemming from a special counsel Jack Smith's investigation of the ex president, with thirty

seven criminal accounts, spelling out how Trump retained boxes of documents that quote included

information regarding defense and weapons capabilities as you alluded, of both the United States

and foreign countries, United States nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States

and its allies to military attack, and plans for possible retaliation in response to

foreign attack. Some of the most shocking allegations in the indictment related to communications

from Trump, his family members, his attorneys, and other staffers acknowledging that

he had retained classified information that had not been declassified. Plus the now viral

photos showing boxes of documents that allegedly contained classified information stacked up in bathrooms,

ballroom stages, storage rooms, and other non secure areas. Trump unsurprisingly has

reacted with a series of bombastic truth social posts with furious screeds. During his

speech and interviews over the past few days, Pepper throughout with his customary insistence

that he is the victim of a witch hunt. The ex president is falling

back on his witch hunt playbook, said CNN's Dana Bash to introduce the clip

of McCarthy quote, and his Republican allies are playing right along. Just minutes

ago, the House Speaker deployed some bathroom humor to discuss the Special Counsel's indictment.

A reporter asked McCarthy, was that a good look for the former president

to have boxes in a bathroom? And McCarthy said, quote, I don't

know. Is it a good picture to have boxes in a garage that opens

up all the time? Unquote, he replied, presumably referring to the classified

documents that were found in the garage at President Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home.

And and he probably thinks that servants don't pee, because we've we've disseminated

that this is obviously a bathroom that wasn't used by his highnessed right right,

um, a bathroom door locks, McCarthy added. Representative Jamie Raskin, a

Democrat of Maryland, who is a ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.

Uh An served on the JAM six House Select Committee, joined bash to discuss

the indictment and started with McCarthy's comments. Raskin said, with a chuckle,

quote, Well, it's the first I've seen that particular defense. But is

he suggesting that these boxes of classified documents got up and locked the door after

people left the bathroom. I'm not quite sure I follow the logic of it.

Unquote. See, this is what I was wondering, because don't they

only lock from the inside. Yeah, that's a that's a really good point,

right, So for McCarthy's defense to hold up, there would have to

be uh mate, Now, you know what McCarthy. Probably he might assume

because it's at Mara Lago. Maybe McCarthy just assumed. And by the way,

McCarthy has been Tomorrow Lago, of course, as we know, right

after, you know, after jan six, McCarthy went down there for that

pose with that wonderful picture with that President Trump. But McCarthy might have assumed

that there is a bathroom attendant on duty at all times who actually locks the

door while in the bathroom and then waits for someone to come and knock on

the door, at which point the bathroom attendant then opens the door and steps

out unless the other person swep. But the thing is now, you said,

that's what is there for? Well, well, the thing is so,

as Raskin points out, it's not like the documents can can you know,

they're inanimate objects. It's not as though they can lock the doors themselves.

And that's true the door itself. You can't even really trust humans to

do that. I mean, do you know how many times I've walked into

a public bathroom at a say, a convenience store, where somebody was already

in there, but they forgot to lock the door. Right, That's happened

to me so many times. Somebody's in here, yeah, And you know

what's infuriating about that is the person who is in the bathroom already who didn't

bother to lock the door. They never, ever, not once where this

has happened to me, not once, is that person ever said, oh

sorry, man, I forgot to lock it. No, no, no,

you know what they do? Instead they glare at me like I'm the

jerk because I walked into a bathroom that they didn't bother to lock. Well,

and I resent it you aren't using your X ray vision. I know,

very disappointed, I know, But listen, you're talking about what I

believe to be the weakest speaker in United States history. He sold every part

of himself off just to get that title. He has made so many shady

agreements and whatever to be that person that he's got no power. He really

has no power. Oh, I mean, I don't think he's got a

lot of power at all at all. I didn't got him by the cajones.

It takes one. I don't quite agree, only because I would have

felt that way more. I mean, yeah, he did have to give

away a lot for everything. I mean, he probably is in that regard

because of all that he had to give away. The weakest, the weakest

speaker. But I think, but I would not say he has no power

because if you remember, leading up to the debt ceiling deal, one of

the things I was very worried about, one of the things where I thought

we might actually really go over the cliff, and I was feeling pretty pessimistic,

was because I didn't think he'd be able to get h once he made

a deal, I didn't think he'd be able to get it through the house,

and he did. He delivered. I actually, well, I don't

have a lot of don't deliver. I don't have a lot of the makeup

of what he was playing with here. I don't have a lot of regard

for the guy. But he did. He did get it done. He

said he would get it done, and he did get it done. And

I will give him some grudging respect for that. I will. I got

a crumb, I'll give him that. Well, I'll give him that.

But I think he's a He's the weakest speaker this country's ever had. Oh

no, I think that's I think that's true. I think that's true.

But but when you say he has no power, well he did. He

managed to. He doesn't have a heck of a lot. He might not

have a heck of a lot, but he had enough to get that dead

ceiling deal done. And that's and that's not nothing. That's not one hundred

percent on him. I don't see it's a I don't see that as a

hundred part. I'm not saying that his work in the sense that when you

look at the makeup of the Republicans that he was dealing with, he had

a larger majority of Republicans that didn't want to go over a cliff than those

willing to go over the cliff. The yeah, the what do you call

him? The little group the House Freedom Caucus. So they say, um,

just not if you're a woman. Not if you're a woman. By

my standards, and what I was expecting, he overperformed, really be overperformed

in that I had very low expectations and very little faith in him. And

he lucky and he came through. I think he was lucky. I will

give him credit for that, but I certainly don't give him any credit for

his uh, his defense of on the bathroom thing is beyond pathetic. Seriously,

give the inside guy. Yeah, and these people buy it. Oh

and and and and incidentally, files being found in a garage not okay by

any stretch of the imagination, of course. So also, under the law,

you were supposed to return this stuff. You don't get to keep it

forever. Right, It's not how it works. It's not how it's ever

worked. Right. Well, yeah, especially when they come knocking and ask

you for it. Right, all he had to do was knock, knock,

give us the stuff back. If he giving it all back, we

wouldn't even be talking about none of it right. None of this would be

if when the archive came asking came asking for it. Yep, Um,

none of this would be happening. I dare say, even if when the

FBI came looking for it, if if they hadn't played hide the ball with

all of this and just cooperated, I don't think any of this would be

happening. And we know that they were boxes moved before the lawyer got to

there to see. And here the lawyer goes to certify. Nope, nope,

we've given you everything. It's all good now, and it probably would

have ended there if not yet again no, yep, because his ego won't

let anything else rule. This guy decides something's his, he's gonna take it

to the grave with him. He doesn't know how to be wrong, and

he doesn't know how to not get his way. I don't think he's ever

not gotten his way in his entire life. This, this little silver spoon

got up and took us, and now he gets whatever he wants. This

is the first situation this guy's probably ever been in with somebody's going no,

you cannot no, how can you say no to the great One? I

mean seriously, that's what this is. His ego brought him down this road.

His ego did this to him. While there are two there are two

key differences, you know, because people will say, well, what about

Biden and what about Pence? And you know, listen, I take I

take it all very seriously. Um, Or what about Hillary? You know,

we're still in in now and it's the year twenty twenty three and we're

hearing but our emails. Um, there's a there's a key difference uh here

uh not, and not not just in the magnitude of what we're talking about,

but two key things, two words that are very important here, intent

and obstruction. I mean you you were just talking about all the obstruction.

Um. You know everybody else cooperated when something like this came up. Um.

And by the way, I will I will just remind people too,

the special counsel investigation, not Jack Smith, but a different a different individual

who's investigating Biden and the secret documents there because there are still some important questions

there. That's an ongoing investigation. I'll just remind everybody of that, so

you know, don't be so quick to say, oh, they just let

Biden off. The No, that is ongoing, Uh, Mike Pence.

They let off the hook because Mike Pence operated, it seemed to be an

honest mistake. Again, and that goes to intent. So so in this

case, you have the obvious obstruction of Trump, but you also have intent.

What was his intent? And that is the thing that I want to

know. And I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't

care if you're you know, you can be the biggest Trump supporter. You

can be full on maga. You can have the big Trump flag on your

pickup truck, you can wear the hat, you can you know whatever.

You can be as deeply in love with Trump as you want to be.

But every American, no matter who you are, whether you think you need

an explanation, whether you're even the slightest pic curious, or you just put

your absolute total faith in this man for whatever reason, I'll never understand.

No matter who you are as an American, you deserve, I deserve,

we all, every single one of us deserves an explanation. What was his

intent? Why did he take these things? And why did he try so

desperately to keep them? We all deserve an explanation. I understand if you're

a supporter of his, you don't need an explanation, and you don't care

because you just believe in him so deeply that it just doesn't matter to you.

I get it. But whether you want an explanation or not, you

deserve one. We all deserve one. I'm an American citizen, I'm an

American taxpayer. I want to know why, and what is one thing that

he has not explained. You know, every time he's asked, every time

he's asked, he says, he says, oh, I had every right

to take them, And he talks about how he thinks he had every right

to take them and every right to keep them, and how they're his and

all that. I have yet to hear him say anything about what his intention

was in having these and what he intended to do with that information. I

have not once heard him say anything about that, And I want to know.

Here's my opinion from the cheap seats. I really I draw this right

back to his ego again. I don't think he ever had an intention of

trying to make money or sell them off to Russia. I don't think that.

What I do think is he's already told us in what we've learned from

what was released and things that he said. He had this thing about going

see what I got, look at this, Look what I have? You

know, oh, and I've got this. I mean he even says things

like that. There's that in the section that they keep bringing up where he

says how he had the power when he was president, but he doesn't have

the power because he's not president anymore. He's talking about a specific document,

a classified document which they haven't found yet, which they haven't found yet.

This man is he has to his only it's kind of sad, you know,

when you think about it. The only way he could feel good about

himself as if he's showing off, Look what I have, Look what I

have, and it maybe that's something. And then when somebody looks at Trump

and says you can't have this, he digs in, Oh, no,

you're not taking nothing away from me. This is Mayan And that's what I

see with this guy. And that's what I think has been his his entire

downfall, which has toppled leaders through history their egos. We have a call.

I think this might be Charles. Charles. Is that you Yes,

it is Charles from the State of Florida, Florida. Right, you've you've

been the greatness has been. The Santists out of it. Yes, what's

on your mind? Charles? So I'm thinking here, what if it's the

blackmail anybody that tried to do You think that's maybe a possibility of why he

has all this stuff, why he wants to show up, maybe not to

show up, but like, well, if anybody tries to double cross me,

well I can do this to them. Well there is something is like

the JFK as that nation documents or pitches that he had or something. I

mean, I don't know that there is. Um, there is a concept

called gray male, which is where you have you have documents or information that

um that you know, our intelligence agencies would not want to be made public,

so you kind of hold onto those as leverage. Um. But I

don't know, I mean, anything's possible, but uh, nuclear secrets,

I don't know the movements of other nations military. I'm from porn star scandals,

from tax scandals and all this other stuff. He's probably gotten some intelligence

on. Like well, there's probably gonna be more scandals coming up because I've

done so much. You know, something out there. I'm just gonna go

ahead, hold onto a document just so I can go ahead and clear myself

or to fight back. I don't know. I don't understand who he's blackmailing.

Is he blackmailing the Navy? I don't know. Well, because if

I say blackmail and now that's a that's a racist thing. So maybe it's

whitemailing. I don't know. But wow, anyway, No, I think

you can still say blackmail. Wow, I don't think that, man,

Sure, yeah, I listen. I don't know anymore. It's a it's

a different it's a different United States than why I was when I was ten

years old. So wow, a little less racism in the country. It's

amazing. Well, yeah, it's a it's a well, it's it's now

more out than it was before. I never thought of it when I was

ten years old, but my god, it's in my head all the time

from everything I see, And what's it's now more than ever? What?

Anyway? What's that was my opinion with Donald Trump? What what? What's

out? What? What do you mean? What's out more? Now?

What were you? What were you back? When? Back when I was

ten years old, I could go outside without having the fear of pedophiles.

I can go outside without the fear of of of of saying racist things or

anybody bringing it up. You're a little I knew better because I was growing

up that way. I knew better. But it's like it's publicized to the

tenth degree now. Now it's like nobody everybody's scared to get out of their

house. Everybody's scared to meet with their neighbors. Everybody's always like hmm,

what are they up to? You know, just nobody has any trust anymore.

I think I'm wrong. I think you're wrong, and I think that's

your opinion. But that's my opinion because I think back then I could go

out and play outside and ride my bike with a Now, really it's all

designed to put fear into other people, that is I think I've ever heard.

Yes, there were no pedophiles back when we were young. All right,

Well I didn't say that. I'm sorry, yea, all right,

thanks Charles, all right, Oh my god, I'm not. I'm not

sure that that wasn't. Uh. I don't know I would say racist things

like you could when he was ten. No, I don't think that's what

he was saying. What he said, But I'm not I'm not a little

No, well no, because he said he was raised better than that,

he knew better. But I don't know, I'm not People could say things

and it was get in trouble. I don't know what. We talk about

racism too much. I don't know, Dare. It wasn't clear to me.

But the phone connection was terrible, So yeah, I didn't hear you

echoing. Didn't. I didn't want to get into a protracted discussion. But

I'm not sure exactly. I remember when I was in elementary school, we

had the clown is scary guy driving around in a white van dressed like a

clown from the waist stop and he was snatching kids Randolph, Massachusetts. And

we were all advised in elementary school and told to like run into a store

or run into the police well wherever you were if you saw a white van,

just just run away, just get away from it. I remember this

like, I mean, it was a big deal. It was like scarring.

Yeah, if you want to get in with a call before you run

out of time six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zero three

two five six seven, we've got a little bit of time left. I

did see this um. One of the things that's been interesting about the way

the different Republican candidates are reacting to, uh yeah, to this. Of

Now you've got Chris Christie, former governor of New Jersey, and Asa Hutchinson,

former governor of Arkansas. Who are you know, who are are willing

to actually risk raising the ire of MAGA world and actually be critical of Trump.

But then of course you've got well, you've got Mike Penns who just

continues to you know, He'll say, well, nobody's above the law.

But I'm just so troubled to see this happening. It's like, well,

which is it, dude? And there's some reaction from Nicky Haley. It

says here from media. Nicky Haley rips Trump over doc's case on Fox News,

says was incredibly reckless with our national security if charges are true, so

says your Republican presidential candidate and former South Carolina governor Nicky Haley criticized former President

Donald Trump today, stating that if federal charges against him are valid, his

behavior was incredibly reckless. The Department of Justice unsealed and indictment of the former

president on Friday, and connection with his retention of government documents he took to

his Marlago residence when he left office. The material, quote included information regarding

defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries, United States

nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack,

and plans for possible retaliation in response to foreign attack. Une Hailey tweeted

about the indictment on Friday, calling it prosecutorial overreach. However, she now

appears to be pivoting, appearing on the Story, which I guess is a

show on Fox. Hailey, Trump's former UN ambassador, was asked about his

scheduled arraignment on Tuesday. Martha McCallum said, quote, he's facing the indictment

tomorrow. Obviously, these are serious, serious accusations in a situation that he

finds himself in. What's your reaction to what he's to what's going on in

what we're going to see play out tomorrow? What do you say to voters

about how they should look at this? Unquote? Hailey responded by praising Trump's

tenure as president and blasting the Department of Justice. Eventually, she got around

to addressing his actions in the case. Okay, so I guess she's going

to try to It sounds like she's she's trying to run the Mike Pence play.

It sounds like. But here's what she actually said. And I haven't

pre read this, so you know, I don't know. Here's what she

said. Two things can be true at the same time. One, the

dj and FBI have lost all credibility with the American people, and getting rid

of just senior management isn't going to be enough to fix this. This is

going to take a complete overhaul, and we have to do that too.

The second thing can also be true if the indictment is true. If what

it says is actually the case, President Trump was incredibly reckless with our national

security. More than that, I'm a military spouse. My husband's about to

deploy this weekend. This puts all of our military men and women in danger.

If you're going to talk about what our military is capable of, or

how we would how we would go about invading or doing something with one of

our enemies. And if that's the case, it's reckless, it's for US

rating and it causes problems. Hailey noted that Trump is also under indictment in

New York on charges of falsifying business records, and is also the subject of

another criminal investigation in Georgia over his efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election.

Despite his legal woes, Trump is currently leading the Republican field by more than

thirty points. Um. Yeah, Georgia should be coming up in a couple

of months. I think, I think, yeah, this summer. Yeah,

so then that happens, and we've all heard the phone call, the

perfect phone call. But so she's she's kind of going to be crazy.

She's kind of trying to have it both ways, but not in exactly the

same way that Pence is. Pence Pence does it in a way that's uh,

Pence Pence just kind of uses a circular logic. What she's saying is,

yeah, two things gonna be true once. So she's um, she's

going with the narrative that the DOJ and the FBI have lost all credibility,

because part of the narrative from the right is that it's these agencies have been

completely taken over by Democrats, the deep state, which I which I find

it, well, there is I do believe there is a deep state,

but I don't think of it in the quite the same way that conservatives think

of it, and uh, you know, law enforcement tends to skew conservative

and I have seen zero evidence that that's ever changed. So I think that's

just a talking point that they pass around and they repeat that, you know,

Democrats are in charge of everything. Now, I don't believe that's uh

true. I mean, for one thing, I don't think there would be

an ongoing investigation into Joe Biden over his handling of classified documents, which isn't

ongoing investigation by the DJ Nor do I think there would be an investigation ongoing

into Hunter Biden. Did I find any with Jimmy Carter? M Jimmy Carter.

Did they find anything at his residence or anything? No, not that

I know of. He's still with us, Yeah, he is, Yeah

with us? So, um so probably the one that didn't have any paperwork

at his house. So she's trying to have it both ways that way,

Yeah, she's she's going with the narrative. But then but she is criticizing

Trump saying if this is true, and she does lay out unlike Mike Pence,

who just kind of stumbles and hems, hems and haws his way through

this stuff because but like I said, he's he sticks with circular logic.

He should be found guilty. Well, no, she's she's saying, she's

kind of hedging a little bit because she's saying, if if these allegations are

true, which by the way, perfectly reasonable, Trump is under our constitution,

you know, he is innocent until proven guilty, the presumption of innocence.

We should remember that. But she is saying that if if it is,

if these are true, then then he was incredibly reckless with our national

security. And and she gives examples of why it's problematic. So some of

the information that was in there too involved American assets by name, like people

who are doing things for our government. That's always bad. Yeah, you

put you put people's lives in jeopardy, directly in jeopardy by doing that big

time. It's hideous. It is, it absolutely is. You know what

What's weird though, is like when you look at Fox News, remember what

you were talking about this earlier, They'll have her on saying that, and

then they'll have somebody else on who's going, oh, this is terrible.

How could he? I'm confused by Fox News, I really am. You're

not well, different people who go on are gonna have different opinions, but

I don't I would I would have expected them to not entertain the idea of

there being any guilt. I was surprised to see that they actually are have

people on there that are saying it is possible he may be guilty. We

have a call. We'll have to It'll have to be a quick one.

We're almost out of the show. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton. Unleash.

Who's this? Hello? Hello you, Lucy? So I could hear

her? It was Shannon, Oh, but I could barely hear her.

Oh I could, I could. The volume was so low on her end

that there no point even trying. So sorry, Shannon. I could hear

you just well enough to hear your voice, but it was so faint there

was no where our listeners could have possibly heard. I didn't hear anything at

all, and I have hearing Aidan well. By the way, Hello to

my friend Dave Wally in the chat room. I don't think I said hi

today earlier. He's in there. Um we uh, we are about out

of time, so we do need to uh, we do need to wrap

up. Oh, Crystal in the chat Crystal, our friend from Illinois.

Also in the chat, she said, I think Charles means words like Picnic

are considered racists these days. Words we never thought anything of. That's my

guests anyhow, I didn't know that Picnic. I don't know. I don't

I honestly, I don't know about Picnics. I don't know. Um anyway,

all right, we do we do need to wrap up, So we're

gonna finish up with one more song from the band My Life Crisis. If

you're just joining us. One of the guys I was in that band with

Ben Brackett York. He has passed away. Uh, so we uh,

we opened the show. I played some of the music that we did and

together back in the day and spoke about Ben and I wanted to kind of

just talk about him a bit. So that's uh, that's how we opened

up today and we've been playing some of the music. Um. This last

song that we're going to close with today from that era is a song called

Malice Femina. But it's uh. I did have to make a radio edit

of it in order to play it on the show. This song, it

gets a little Blue, so I had to remove some of the bad words

to you are very good at doing that. Play Yeah, I'm pretty good

with making radio edits sou So we will leave with that. So um but

Jenny, thank you, and thank you, thank you everybody in the chat

room, everyone who called. And uh if you miss any part of today's

show it we'll be up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot org

and in my website Matt Connerton dot com. And again condolences to the family

of Ben Brackett, York and uh we will we will leave you with this.

This is Malice Femina from the band My Life Crisis to close out today's

Matt Connerton Unleashed and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later. By everybody,

m H. The eyes side down, tiding outside by my side fout

like I'm on my bell. I got ride west side time while side b

time to time by eye my bride bry eyes. But I see my right

I got alarm rise. I saw that I bind out when I got the

time grass to out see how my eye side right out my side I made

ye how how my world now is my side of my world was my house

my side life willows my darn time when house my side out mine? When

now was my out that

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