Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-14-23

Welcome everybody. Here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton

Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five

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the nation around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot

com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info,

show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Wednesday, June fourteen,

two thousand and twenty three, so nice to have you all with me.

And speaking of people being with me, coming up in just a few minutes,

we're gonna hear from as I like to call him, my favorite conservative,

Eric Pilcher. Not only does he do the classic film reviews for us

on Fridays, but we do a weekly segment on Wednesday, and we didn't

have Eric last week. He had some other things going on, but he's

back today and he's gonna be I'm not sure if he's calling or skyping.

I forgot to ask him, but I will be ready for either eventuality.

So that will be coming up. And then in the second hour. Today,

we have a great musical guest, Aaron Billado will be joining us.

The last time Aaron was on, I think the last time he was on,

he was here with Hue the Gecko and that that turned out to be

quite a show and they played live for us, and but it got the

attention of the pod awful cult, that's for sure. But uh, Aaron

will be coming in today in the second hour, and we're gonna share some

of his music from his album Destroyer and uh, and I'm really looking forward

to talking with him. Uh. You know, he didn't want to get

you know, last time he was here. Oh, Eric says he'll be

skyping in thank you. Last time Aaron was here, he didn't want to

He didn't want to say too much because it was it was Hughey's day,

so he was in more of a supportive role. But I'm really looking forward

to talking to Aaron about not only his solo project, but the guy's got

long, as I mentioned on social media when promoting today today's show, quite

a long resume in the music scene. So UM, really looking forward to

talking with him and UM, so that's gonna be coming up today in the

second hour. We've got a lot of music this week. Tomorrow in the

second hour we've got Andrew North and the Rangers coming in, and then on

Friday we've got Hell's Throne, a band from I think they're from Germany if

I remember correctly. So so, lots of music, lots of good stuff

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five six seven. Oh. By the way, speaking of music, musical

guests, that song I opened with on the show today, well, I

played a couple of things. But the first thing that I opened with,

that's a song called Funeral Clown that is a band Lady Chops and the g

D Jam. It's not actually g D, it's the full word, but

we try to keep it clean of course for an afternoon drive here. But

they were my guests yesterday on the show, all the way from Austin,

Texas. They skyped in and just incredible. So that was the new single,

the world radio premiere of the new single Funeral Clown from Lady Chops,

and it's just such a great track, so I figured i'd open with it

again today. And you know, we've got a bunch of Aaron Bilidous songs

too, of course, but we're gonna save those for when he comes in.

His solo songs are kind of short but very very interesting. So anyway,

lots of good stuff. We'll go ahead and say hello to everybody in

the Facebook live chat. Let's see Facebook is being a little difficult as it

is occasionally, let's see Mike from Queen City Cabinetry joins us in the chat

room. Mike, of course, from well, Queen City Cabinetry is one

of our sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three. But also Mike is

one of our co hosts Friday nights on retro Spectrum Radio with poly C poly

C myself, DJ Steven, of course Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. This

particular Friday night show I'm especially looking forward to. It's going to be uh,

you know, every week there's a theme on the show, and this

week the theme is demo versions, the original demo versions of popular songs.

I'm really looking forward to that. So that's that's gonna be cool. Jenny

is in the chat room, of course, and says shalom, peeps.

Also, Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont. Fredo as he's known

in the scene, or I like to say his full name, Alfredo Enrique

Benavitis is in the chat room, and you know what that sound means.

Eric Pilcher is on thus Skype. Yes, I am good afternoon, mad

How are you good afternoon? Welcome back. And by the way, Jay

Fed in the chat room says thanks for the shirt. I guess, mum,

I'm not sure. Yeah, yes, yes, Texas Mike is fired

as my representative. Oh my goodness, I didn't know Texas Mike was representing

you. Wait, did you join a new force of the Spark. How

did Texas Mike get to be your representative? No? Here, Last time

Texas Mike was on there, he was supposed to hook me up with some

ice cream bar. Oh that's right, Yes, he did commit to that,

didn't he heard nothing regarding this? Yeah? Yeah, well you know,

uh the gears of ice cream turned slowly. I think that's an expression

I heard once, but I don't know. I've never worked in dairy,

so he might still be working on it, is what I'm saying. I

doubt it. I'm I'm very upset that my demands have not been taken seriously

here right right, Well, maybe that's maybe that's the problem. Maybe because

it was a demand, maybe you need to make it a request. Maybe

you should say, please, Texas Mike, will you work on this for

me? Will you get me my ice cream bars? Matt, I'm a

star. I understand, of course you are. You're on the show.

Absolutely only the stars come out for Matt Cornton unleashed. That's our motto about

that. You know, there's a couple of individuals who claim to be stars,

like there's this guy in Philadelphia that things sees a staring yeah, and

a guy in some crap burrow of Jersey. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

I guess anyone can. Well, you know, the Internet is really

over the years and social media has kind of changed the way that people think

about fame and stardom. You know, now you can be there's different types

of fame now, I mean, I mean, there's always been different types

of fame, but now, for example, you could be Internet famous,

but not necessarily a household name, not in the mainstream in the zeitgeist of

American culture. Yeah, well I'm bigger than this zeitgeist of American culture.

Yes, yes, well, I'm sure he's working on it. We'll see

what he says in the chat room about it. He was trying to decide,

apparently, Texas Mike was trying to decide whether to listen to my radio

program or to watch John Hopwood's program with a couple of other fine gentlemen.

But he chose us, so he's definitely listening. He chose us, Eric,

and I think you're the reason. I think you're the reason he chose

us, So he probably very much wants you to point I was invited to

be on that show today I chose to be on here. Thank you.

Well, then all is as it should be, except you don't have your

ice cream bars or a shirt. But other than that, all is as

it should be. Absolutely okay, good, good you. I was worried

there for a second. I thought, I don't know why I'm even calling

in. It's been pretty boring on the news front. Oh yes, well,

uh we as we might have something to discuss. I think somebody wants

to chime in on that. So what do you guys want to talk about?

Yes, yes, so I think uh Cody would like to hear us

discuss out as well. The subject. Now what what is it? Now?

What is it that went on in the news? Uh? Something about

something something? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yesterday Donald

Trump was once again arraigned in uh in court in in Florida. Yeah yeah,

this this one might be the bad one. Mmmm. You think,

well this is national security here? Yes, yes, this this one,

this one might stick a little. Uh this this it is this kind of

I wasn't I wasn't around for this one, but this kind of has some

feelings of water Gate here. Oh, if these allegations are true, assuming

and I say if, because uh, the former president, like any American

has afforded the or is supposed to be anyway, afforded the presumption of innocence

until proven guilty. But I would say, if these allegations are true,

proven to be true in a court of law, I would suggest that it's

far far worse. I mean, Watergate was over, you know as they

as they like to call it, a third rate break in to the Democratic

National Headquarters. This is this involves nuclear secrets and uh, you know,

the potentially compromised sources and methods assets in the field. I mean, this

is uh, I would say, this is far worse. Yeah, this

is like, this is bad. Yeah, this is really bad. And

I mean I just Jenny posted how she was shocked at the support for him

had when looked low at a looked low at a rally, and I commented,

something is simmering with the conservatives here. I think there is And I

said this for the last two years on your show, there is an undercurrent

of anyone but Trump. Sure, oh sure that is going to grow now

as this cycle goes on, do you think so? I mean, it

does seem to be growing. It is growing, You're right, even even

Mike Pence managed to be mildly critical in the last twenty four hours, so

it does seem to be growing. I also think though, part of why,

and I'm glad that we didn't see any violence yesterday. I was worried

about it, and we might yet still see violence manifest in other ways.

But I think part of that too, might also be that how aggressive they've

been about prosecuting January sixth insurrectionists or rioters or if you prefer, and I

think that might have kind of turned a lot of people off to the idea

of actually, you know, nobody was going to be storming the courthouse.

In other words, you know what I mean, because apparently apparently there are

consequences, Oh don't Yeah, I mean, man consequences when you make bad

decisions and break the law. Ye get you say, yes, yes,

So you think now I still believe he's going to be the nominee, though

no matter what, what what, what say you? I think the longer

this goes on, longer this is drawn out, the Donald Trump camp has

to find a way and it's it's almost from where I'm sitting impossible to do

it. They have to find a way to squash this, get this done.

And over with, because while this is going on, this let's be

honest, this happened at the worst possible time for Donald Trump because you have

this sciantists who is gaining momentum by the day. In my opinion, you

have other candidates now who could come in and say, hey, you remember

in twenty twenty we told you this guy was a blowhard. You remember in

twenty twenty four where he talked himself out of a slam dunk reelection. Well,

here we are so on that I want to um and we this is

someone that we've talked about before. I'm curious what you think though, Um,

Well, let me ask you this. Did you happen to watch did

you happen to see any of Chris Christie's town hall on CNN? I did

not, And it wasn't because I okay, it was because I didn't want

to. Yeah. After the unmitigated, fiery, epic, totally destructive train

wreck that was the Donald Trump one, I was like, this is gonna

be more revered m so and so Yeah, I just was like, no,

I have no interest. So I I've I've seen most of it,

not all of it. I need to go back and watch what I missed

because I I'm fascinated by these events, you know, and I saw,

of course, I saw the Trump one and the Nicky Haley one, and

I have to say, so, UM, if I can cut you off,

Matt, I'm actually watching the Facebook live chat and I want to address

something real quick. Oh yeah, go ahead. My comment about the timing

wasn't saying that, oh they they did it to sabotage Donald Trump. I'm

saying from a political yeah yeah point of view, this is bad. Oh

yeah, yeah, this couldn't have happened at a worse time for this man.

Yeah, um right, no, of course. Um, So I

have seen most of the Chris Christy town hall, now I have. I've

I've always had mixed feelings about him, as we've discussed before on the show.

For one thing, I you know, I don't trust him. I

have never believed him about Bridgegate with the George Washington Bridge and Fort Lee.

Um, I believe he absolutely knew what was going on there. And I've

I've never bought his whole uh you know, the obliviousness that he was portraying

himself, that you know, like he like he didn't know. I've never

believed him having said that, I have to I have to say when watching

that town hall, first of all, I think he's evolved a bit,

and I have to say, I understand it doesn't work out. And this

this goes for both Republicans and Democrats. The the individual who gets through the

primaries, who can appeal to the base to win those primaries, is very

often not who would go on to be the best general election candidate, because

in the pri Mary's you have to appeal appeal to the basin. In the

general election you have to appeal to a broader swath of people, independence,

you know, swing voters and so forth. I have to say, though,

this occurred to me watching Chris Christie in that town hall, and I

would encourage you to check it out, Eric, or at least a little

bit of it. I should, and I think I saw CNN and dismissed

it. Yeah, yeah, no, I and I believe me. I

understand, I get it. But the thing that I kept thinking is if

you put and obviously we you know, it's no secret. They'll never come

right out and say it, but it's no secret the Biden administration wants Trump

to be the nominee because they figured they beat him once, they'll beat him

again, etcetera. Um, but uh uh so the Trump Biden this is

the South Park episode of Tird Sandwich versus b Come to lie right, right?

But but what this is? Right? But I do think that Chris

would be a phenomenal general election candidate because what I kept thinking watching that town

hall is you put him on the debate stage across from Joe Biden, he

will wreck Joe Biden in a way that I don't think Nicky Hayle. I

mean, look, and I understand almost anybody who's significantly younger than Joe Biden,

which is basically everybody, would would have an edge in terms of being

able to be quick, being able to be articulate, you know, things

that Biden seems to be gradually losing as time ticks on. But Chris Christie,

who and by the way, Chris Christie is sixty years old, but

you know, next to Biden on that stage, he would appear to be

you know, like a like a young new generation of leader, you know

what I mean, but a young fresh face. But Chris Christie would wreck

him. Do you remember, oh did we lose you? Oh we lost

Eric? It says reconnecting Eric, can you hear me? Oh? We

lost Eric. Um, I don't know. I don't know what happened.

I'm gonna try to call him. Sorry, everybody see what happens here.

It's just a ringing. Can't get him? All right? Well, Eric,

uh give us a give us a call on the landline if you want.

But uh no, I really do think that, uh, that Chris

Christie would would just destroy Biden and and make him seem u not that he

needs help necessarily, but just make him seem very old. Let's see what's

going on in the chat room and we'll we'll wait for Eric to either try

to skype back in or call us on the studio line. I'll leave skype

open. But let's see. Yeah, Ja Fed said thanks for my shirt,

Matt, and Melanie said the Matt Connerton unleashed underwear super comfy. Let's

see who else have we got in here? Melanie said, I don't even

have enough room in my closet for all of my unleashed clothing. So the

concept of the I'm sorry the comment that Eric was responding to earlier, Melanie

said, who cares about them? Editing for radio? Who cares about the

timing for him. National security has been violated by this little hand man.

And after Eric responded to that, mel Melanie said, I love that you

can see what I am writing in real time. Uh, let's see him.

Let's skip a few of these. Um Fredo says Newsome versus Christie would

be at least would be at least a palatable ticket. Hello, welcome back.

Can you hear me? Yes, I think my internet just glitched.

My apologies. Oh that's okay, it Uh that happens. That happens.

So no, I was just saying, I think Chris Christie would be a

phenomenal general election candidate for the Republicans. And let me just add what not

only do I think he would uh just outclass Biden easily in a debate,

but I also the thing about Chris Chrissie. So if you watch the CNN

town hall, um, you'll you'll hear a lot of policy. Uh you

know, you'll hear a lot of policy from Chris Christie. But what you

will not hear is a lot of the you know, anti LGBTQ stuff.

You're not going to hear about drag queens and critical race theory and all that

kind of stuff which is only going to turn Unlike say Ron de Santis,

who you know, anytime he's asked about anything, the first thing out of

his mouth is complaining about wokeism. But Chris Christie kind of reminded me of

sort of that moderate Northeastern governor type of Republican who is the kind of Republican

that I actually am not terrified of. So I'm curious to hear what you

think. I think the issue with Chris Christie as it is with any major

hold on im mechel. Yeah, yeah, all right, there we go.

Okay, if we're how do I say this? With any conservative?

You have to be able to get the Bible belt though. Yeah, And

the problem with Chris Christie is he will never get that, you don't think

so if it's him versus Biden? I mean, where else are they?

Where else are they gonna go? I don't think he gets past the primary.

Oh you mean in terms of Oh no, no, I no,

I agree with you there, Eric, No, I think Trump is going

to be the nominee, no matter what I'm just saying. I do think

if if in a world where it were conceivable, I agree then sorry,

yes, yeah, Joe Biden. Yeah, yeah, this is this is

over before California closes it if it's Christie Biden, because Chris Christie will probably

I'm gonna say he would sweep the Upper East coast. Um, he would

probably do well in Florida, and he would do well in Texas. I

think he would take the big, the big early closers, and it would

set up for a blowout. Um. Fredo in the chat room said,

uh uh, today's GOP is so far right that sensible centrists are referred to

as rhinos. Well, that is true, I mean I think, I

mean, do you do you agree with that? Eric? It seems like

now, um, and there are a lot of centrist Republicans like Chris Christie,

but but they do they get tagged as rhinos, which for anyone who

doesn't know, stands for Republican and name only. It's like, if you're

not a conservative, you get uh, you get tagged with that. What

do you think? I think? One Conservatives have always had this like gang

mentality within each other. Yeah. Um, like, oh well I'm a

staunch I must staunch this person and I believe and I'm in the Bible belt

and such like that. In they go against the ones that might not be

as far right leaning. And that's a problem because what ends up happening is

then you kind of take away, you diminish those that may not like the

Donald Trump's, the Ted Cruises, the ones that go far to the right.

If that makes sense. Now, do you think I am still convinced

that Trump will be the nominee? Do you agree or do you think that

this you just oh, that's right, you did say that earlier, and

I think then we got cut off. So so what do you What do

you think happens? I think as this goes on and as this drags out,

the thing with federal indictments, and this is what makes this situation very,

very, very bad from President Trump is you only get you only get

at the bottom of the iceberg when they're first announced. There's going to be

more that comes out and more and more, and as this mounts, there's

going to become a point where where his just dismissing it isn't gonna cut it

anymore. He's going to have to answer for it, and he doesn't have

a strong enough answer. You can't just say, oh, people brought it

into my house and I didn't know how do you not know? You're a

former president, you have security up the wazoo. You had to know you

had these documents. Documents just aren't accidentally placed. I have heard conservatives say,

well, someone put plainted them there to frame him. That is the

dumbest, most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Well, he does acknowledge

that he took them, and he just says, well, they were mine

to take. And the thing that I keep saying to people, uh,

you know a Trump apologist, is that, Uh listen, what's that?

No, they were It's that simple. I know my documents, I know.

But but also the thing that I keep saying is too, I want

to know why. And that is something he has not explained. He has

not explained why he took them and what his intentions were. And and he

sort of, you know, he spoke last night and he sort of said

something about, well, you know, I just hadn't had you know,

I had a lot of personal things in there, like shoes and shirts and

and uh, I just hadn't had a chance to go through everything yet.

And it's like wow, And by the way, what a nightmare for any

defense attorney. This guy is because he and I As I often say,

Trump exists in a consistent state of self immolation. And he just every time,

you know, it's like every day he wants to just light himself on

fire. And and it's almost like he enjoys torturing his defense attorneys and um,

which may be why there's not very many of them on the team currently.

And uh, it's just uh it's amazing, you know, because a

defense attorney will tell you not to talk, and that's all Trump wants to

do is talk. Keep your mouth shut. Yeah, that's what they tell

you. If former professional wrestler Sonny can take advice to keep her mouth shut

and not appear on dark side of the ring, what's Donald Trump's excuse,

right, Well, his excuses, Uh this this helps raise money, him

getting out there and and and you know, playing the victim card and uh,

you know, and he's very inclusive, as you know, he says,

you know, it's not they're not just after me, They're after all

of us. Uh, and uh, you know, it does raise a

hell of a lot of money. See, I think I think he will

be the nominee because I think what happens is this does drag on. But

I think, you know, if if they can get because Judge Eileen Cannon,

who's going to be the presiding judge over this, she wasn't the magistrate

for the arrangement, but she'll be the presiding judge going forward unless she accuses

herself or they can get her out. But I don't see that happening.

Um, you know, she'll probably grant whatever continuances and delays that the defense

wants. And if they can delay this long enough for Trump to get back

into the White House, then then it goes away as soon as Trump's president

again, if that happens. If I am anyone, if that happens,

and that's a very fair point, that is what they're going to try to

do. If I am Chris Christie, Rhonda Scantists, Nicky Haley, I

am playing this card. These indictments are rolling on. Can we put a

man in power that his statusis president over four years would be shrouded in such

uncertainty. I would hammer that point home because if anything, conservatives love stability.

Their favorite flavor of ice cream is vanilla. Why, because vanilla never

lets you down. Vanilla is today as it was yesterday, right. I

would I would question that though, because how do you explain then, Conservatives

going for Trump to begin with? Because Trump Trump's never been stable. I

mean, he seems less stable now, but he is a pied piper that

I agree with. He was able to give them a voice. His instability

has given his supporters a comfort of stability because it's normal for them to see

this. Well, that's true. He has normalized. He has been able

to normalize some pretty outrageous stuff. They all three of them. I'm hammering

that home. I am hammering that home. I'm hammering that right, Adam

on the debate stage. Yeah, well, what assurances can you give the

American people? You can serve afore year term and and I'm just keep hammering

at home that these are serious, serious issues. These documents were basically in

a shoe box in Mara Lago. How can we trust this man with national

security? Well, now, in fairness, so Kevin McCarthy did point out

because many of them were in a bathroom. In a bathroom door does have

a lock on it? Uh yeah, I'm sure that was impenetrable. Well

so far so um. Chris Christie of course very directly hammering Trump on all

of this, and Asa Hutchinson Chris Christie's website right now while we're talking,

yeah that, I mean, here's the thing with him is his tagline is

because the Truth matters right, And to me, that's a shot not just

at Trump, but against the conservative hierarchy. Right now, he is saying,

look, there there are severe issues with what the American people is being

told. He to me, he's taking a shot at Fox News. He's

taking a shot at McConnell, he's taking a shot at He's taking a shot

at anyone who supports Donald Trump. And what I think these individuals need to

do is they to gain that ultra Bible Bell faith based constituents, they need

to go ahead and start asking some of the biggest conservatives they can to be

running mates with them. Really, if if I'm Chris Christie, this would

never happen, never in a million years, I would almost put my life's

earnings on it that this never happens. I would go to Mike Pence.

Oh interesting, and I would say, hey, run with me, right

and because you know this cannot happen again. If I'm Rhonda Santis, I'm

hitting up Mike Pence. If I'm any of the big three that are going

up against Trump right now, I am trying to reach out to Mike Pence

to at least gauge his level of interest. Yeah, because that would really

really gain the faith based vote for that candidate. Because let's look at it

like this, the faith based vote really didn't buy into Trump until he had

Mike Pence as his running me. Once that happened, that's when they really

bought in. Yeah. I think it certainly helped. So I really think

that if they were to do that, and then I think something clicks that

here is a man that supported this man for six years and he is turning

and running. Why well, maybe because this man's followers had gallows set up

for him. Mike Pence is turning and running. Yeah, Mike Pence is

wants nothing to do with this man. I see. I don't see it

that way. I think Mike Pence has turned and was kind of meandering away.

And then maybe at this point he might be walking at a brisk pace.

But I certainly don't think he's running because he's still even though he acknowledged

that Trump put and he said he said the words himself. He acknowledged that

Trump put his own that put Pence's family in danger on January sixth, But

then he also has plenty of effusive praise for Trump still, you know,

from a policy standpoint, which I think is emasculating self emasculating on Pence's part.

To me, it's it's very it's very unmanly to you know, after

somebody puts his family in danger and then he has anything nice to say about

that person, I think is strange. I don't know. I don't know

how his wife and his daughter is gonna even look at him, to be

honest with you. But so he's he's I think he's incrementally, to use

your analogy, I think he's incrementally walking faster and faster away from Trump.

But I wouldn't say he's running. I think there's a part of him that's

still. I think his heart still belongs to Trump in some way, to

some degree. I guess three, I think he's I don't think he would

ever publicly come out unless there was an offer on the table, and that's

down the road, right. I think privately he's done. Yeah, well

yeah, I mean he I'm sure he doesn't. I'm sure he doesn't like

the guy, you know, self attatched to Trump, I'm sure he has

advisors say this could actually hurt you down the road. Anything you have planned

that you want to achieve, this could end up hurting you. Yeah.

Well, I don't think Mike Pence actually, I mean, he must know

he's not going to be the nominee. I'm sure he's just trying to sell

some books anyway. He knows he has no chance. I mean, most

of these candidates must know they have no chance whatsoever. Their only chance would

be if Trump ends up in such legal peril that he has to drop out.

And I don't see that happening. See, I think that that this

could get dragged out, but especially with Judge Eileen Cannon. But Eric,

we have a call. Our friend Ron is on the line. Hello Ron

a little minute. I know it might be possibly off topic because I was

in mass and I'm just tuning into the radio now. But you know,

I was listening to probably Awekar with somebody last night and got me thinking when

they said they had a caller call in, and he sort of made a

good point. He was talking about when they rated Mara Lago, the lawyers

were not allowed to watch and see what's going on. It was all the

big. Nobody did an inventory of what was taken out of there. No

cameras were allowed. So that guy made a point that when Trump goes to

court or goes to trial, you know, their lawyers could possibly say,

how can he get a fear trial? Who's to say something wasn't added that,

you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I know,

you know the majority of it is a hundred percent true. But in the

eyes of the jury, when they say beyond a reasonable doubt, that a

good lawyer might be able to prove that beyond a reasonable out. So I

don't know what your thought is, but I heard that last night and it

kind of caught my eyes. I don't I don't think anyone on a jury

would fall that because Trump admits, I mean, he admits he took everything.

Trump denies nothing. He just says, well, it was mine to

take. So I don't think that strategy would even work in court. What

do you think, Eric, No, I get where Ron's coming from here,

but got to understand something. These documents were classified documents. You're not

gonna want video evidence of you removing these classified documents from a premises that would

be looked at unfavorably your goal as a federal agent is to build the best

case you have from the time you begin the investigation to the time of decision

is made. Right, and the worst thing they could do is anything that

could be perceived as being something that co violate national security, filming them,

removing documents that could easily be turned as well. How can you trust the

FBI? Look at that they're filming us. They're filming them, removing these

documents. There's these documents Clara's day on videotape, So there's there is a

chess game being played here. And if that's Donald Trump's strategy going this that,

who knows what they could have planned it? Right? But he yeah,

but he, I mean, Trump just comes right out and says,

no, it was yeah, I took he didn't. Trump denies nothing.

So yeah, all right, See that's a new perspective for the information.

I didn't go and didn't have. That kind of contradicts everything that I heard

last night, even though last night, I mean I was sold. But

all right, thanks for your time, Thanks for your ron, your input.

I'm just gonna listen, all right, Ron, thank you so much

for the call, my friend, Thank you, you got it. Bye.

Bye. Yeah, I uh And obviously on Howie Car, you know,

they have a perspective and they're gonna try to push h Are you familiar

with Howie Car, Eric, I'm sure he's not syndicated in Iowa, but

I know you used to live in the northeast. I am not familiar with

Howie Car. Oh, okay, kind of a regional I mean, he's

don't get me wrong, I'm not, you know, trying to downplay his

success. He's very successful. He's he has syndicated regionally, but I don't

I don't think he's probably heard outside of New England, but he's he's got

kind of a New England accent too, so he probably wouldn't necessarily play well

outside of this, uh, this part of the country. But you know,

very conservative, and you know, I haven't listened to how He Car

in a long time, but I'm I can imagine he's all about trying to

uh justify and rationalize and downplay what Trump has charged with here and and all

of those uh kinds of arguments. But no, I think though, I

think it's very possible that this drags out that Judge Eileen can and helps make

sure that this drags out, and like I said, if Trump is elected,

this goes away. And even if even if Trump is convicted, convicted

of this, you know, she might, I mean, she's going to

be in charge of sentencing. She might. She might say, you know,

he's uh for his uh charges. He's sentenced to say, I don't

know, eight to ten hours of community service or something suspended. You know.

That way, he's not in convenience at all, you know what I

mean. So the fix might already be in in that regard. I agree,

but I don't know. I'm still debating. I might end up caucusing

for Chris Christie if he makes it that far. Oh no kidding, Okay,

yeah, I I seriously might. Yeah. Yeah. We should remind

people anyone who doesn't know Eric that you, you, of course, are

in Iowa, where the First of the Nation caucus happens, and um,

I don't even know what's going to happen with New Hampshire's primary. You know,

we've been first in the nation for probably as long as I've been alive,

but uh, the DNC seems to be trying to sabotage that and make

sure that it's South Carolina. But then again, it's not gonna matter really

in terms of the Democrats, because obviously Biden as a sitting president, he's

he's the incumbent. He'll, um, you know, he'll he'll certainly be

the nominee. Um. But uh, I was saying to Jenny, though,

I want to try to start getting some of these other candidates on and

one of them is Mary Ann Williamson, who is also running for the Democratic

nomination, not that she has any chance at all, but um, but

but she does go on some some she goes on a lot of shows,

and I don't Jenny, I said, I'm sure we can get her.

I've seen some of the other shows she goes on. I'm sure we can

get her. But but but she's interesting, she's very smart. You know,

she didn't she didn't come off well during the debates, uh in twenty

twenty. But that was not a suitable format for her. But when I

see her in these interviews, she's she's very smart and very articulate. But

uh, but again, you know, not that she has any kind of

a chance. Obviously Biden will be the nominee. So you might caucus for

Chris Christie. Yes, I'm seriously considering it interesting. Interesting, Um,

what do you think about Asa Hutchinson? And I ask about him because he

is someone who also is being very critical of Trump and taking him on directly.

But he's he's much certainly much more conservative than Chris Christie. And you

know, you you you yourself as a conservative. I would think, um,

Asa Hutchinson, former governor of Arkansas, might be more in line with

you idiologically, although maybe not. I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if

you're really begun investigating candidates yet. Yeah, and he doesn't have as as

as much of a national profile as Chris Christie does, so it's it's I

don't even know that much about him, to be honest with you. Yeah,

so I really need to start doing that honestly. Yeah. Yeah,

Well, you know, some people might start dropping out before we even get

to the Iowa caucus, says, so many candidates in the field. But

but it's always interesting, you know, every four years to see how many

dropout right after Iowa. Some of them don't even make it to New Hampshire.

And then of course after the New Hampshire primary, a bunch more dropout,

and then you've got a small field. Oh, we have a call

we're actually getting close to the top of the hour, and I do see

our guests are in the hallway, so we're gonna be bringing them in shortly.

But we'll see who's on the line here. Hi, Welcome to Matt

Connerton Unleashed. Who's this Hello? Hello, Hey, it's Rudley. Hey,

Dave Ridley. What's up? Hello? This? Well of that?

Uh huh, well, we've got this sure. Well, we've got Eric

Pilcher with us on Skype all the way from the great state of Iowa,

and we've been talking about Trump's legal woes. I don't know if you have

any input on that. Yeah, I'm I'm trying to listen on speaker dot

com and it sounds like there's about a forty five minute delay. So I

was just oh when I when I started listening, it was just showing me

the beginning of the show. So I'm behind. Sorry, Oh, okay,

no problem. Well we're we're actually uh yeah, go ahead, Yeah,

if I can only talk about that, Dune, I can talk about

that. But I was calling in about a Ukraine related thing. What what

what? What do you think I should talk about? Uh? Well,

whatever it is, it's gonna have to be quick because we're we're already approaching

the top of the hour. So uh, I'll let you choose, but

just make it quick and pithy, please. So in in nineteen eighty three,

there was a nuclear scare that almost led to World War three. Uh.

And it was a result of something that's going on right now. Uh.

And in addition to the Ukraine crisis, and that is a major NATO

exercise. Oh, able Archer, you're talking about able arch Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, it's mostly That's part I'm thinking about is the air

wing of it. That there's a big air exercise going on right at the

same time that Ukraine is launching one of those World War One style offensives.

Okay, And so Reforger was Reforger was a near miss. And this is

just I call about this because hardly anyone talks about this stuff. It's just

everyone's in denial. But um, but a war exercise of this type of

maneuvers are a very serious matter that often lead to close close encounters with nuclear

war misunderstanding. I think that you know, right now, you would think

the nation would be on high alert if all this stuff is going on,

But actually everyone's just wondering around their lives that you would expect in denial as

usual. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. But you do raise a great point,

all right, Dave. I appreciate the call. Go ahead and give something

a plug if you'd like, and then we gotta we gotta scoot. Oh,

I will plug concept. And that's the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear

Weapons. Look it up, HEPNW Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons.

Okay, I will look that up, all right, Dave Ridley. Thanks.

Interesting it says some people are actually making some progress. Okay, okay,

interesting, all right, Dave Ridley. We appreciate the call. Thank

guys. All right, take care Dave. Um, Eric, it's been

a wonderful discussion as always, but we need to wrap up with you as

well. Um. But do you want to give the Classic film review a

plug for this Friday? This week is the delayed one. It is the

film noir thriller The Night of the Hunter. Ah. Yes, a film

that I definitely have not seen, so that that looks interesting, So that

will be will be this Friday. Very good, very good, very good.

All right, Eric, Well, we gotta run, but I always

enjoy the discussion. I always look forward to Wednesdays and thank you for thank

you for skyping in and looking forward to the film review on Friday. No

problem, all right, my friend, have a good day as well.

Alright bye, all right, very good. That was our friend Eric Pilcher

all the way from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. And we're gonna go ahead and

play a track, and then I'm gonna get Aaron and we'll see who we

brought with him. And they do have instruments, so they are going to

be playing live in studio, so we'll get them in here and set up.

But in the meantime kind of need a longer song for the change over,

so I'm gonna play this. This is a track called Infinity Spinning from

Andrew North and the Rangers. They are our musical guests tomorrow, and then

we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors and then we'll come back. Aaron

will be here and we'll hear some of some of what he's been doing.

And we've got some great studio tracks that Aaron sent me as well, so

but in the meantime, here it is. This is Infinity Spinning from Andrew

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It is Wednesday, June fourteen, two thousand and twenty three. And uh,

we've got some let me pull that mic up there, we got some

music for you here. Aaron Billado is here, and uh, Aaron has

been on the show before with Hue the Gecko. But yeah, yeah,

but you are back to perform some solo material for us. And is that

the name of your project? Do you just call it? Aaron Billado is

yeah, okay, And if if people think Aaron sounds funny, it's we've

got We've got a mic up to Uh do have the mic? Yeah,

I got the right mic on there. Okay, so Eric has Aaron rather

Um. You can't see it if you're just listening on the radio, but

you can see the video if you're online. He's got a whole You've got

a whole loopin set up there, don't you. Yeah, yeah, so

this will be cool. So what we're gonna do is Aaron's gonna play a

set for us five songs, I think, right, and then afterward we'll

play a studio track and uh we'll let Aaron get comfortable, and then we'll

chat for a bit. Really looking forward to this, but I'm without further

ado Aaron, if you want to introduce the songs or however you want to

do it as you go, I'm just dying to hear you play, so

I will turn it over to you, my friend. All right, my

name is Aaron Bodo, and this song is called Witches in the Windy.

Don't get sit the sin still has watch, which is still which is dead

to you to wish you to me. However, for you little wisdom,

sires and fire, we should say yeah, very nice. If you're in

the wind. If he's joining us, Aaron Billado is here performing live for

us. Very cool, very cool. Alright, alright. This song is

called mess. Find it on my album Destroyer. When to close my my

shimmer brain subscribe, I like press builds in the builds when you tronoin closed

my legs and the mys and my brain starts crying almost side of the pressure

with the bills in the hid for you. I live it all you please

my dream close my legs mush and my brain has to ride to roll outside

like a little way the pressure and builds in a booth in the room one

day lit lamble of my face and bus my brain sas fry I room onside

a little blue freshman business in a build one deal behind one day, I

did are you day? I leave it up for you. Don't leave m

h very nice. Jenny really likes that one. Thank you. J don't

don't get here. They burn the build up hand and put it do man,

build up hand and put it to the cant do it laid a hand

and put it down. Can put it down then and don't care it don't

take down to the down. Gonna be gonna be who down, It's gonna

be gonna get broke down, is gonna be gonna be broken down, is

gonna be down, ain't gonna be cool down. It's gonna be gonna gun

tower down, is gonna be gonna down. It's gonna be gonna downs downas

gonna be down. Is gonna put there to bail up down, put it

down there up, put it down on there, put down. It's gonna

be donagam down. It's gonna be gonna get It's gonna be closet down,

is gonna be gown down? Is gonna be good? Are you gonna be

getting reported down? Okay? Destroy okay destroy stick songs called doing laundry.

Oh, I like this one a lot. I've heard the studio vers to

make lunge to belong us a visit the fenusree o that room. Don't degree

baby is. It's not like it goes away. To let it rule in

your day medicaid and meditake crushing your bones out we lone, it's not like

it goes away. Don't let her rule a new day medicaid and meditake crushing

your bones and well loan three doing this time everyone time disser me. It's

it's it's like it goes awake little room when you take magic and then take

you to see preside. Nice. I like that one a lot, Thank

you? Thank you? Was that? Yeah? One more? Yeah?

I have one more? All right, let's see here. This is where

I take it down. You get a little relaxed, Yeah, and breathe.

I'm just trying to chill. M h. But nothing seemed. I

watched my fishing in my room, but it doesn't seem to work. It

doesn't seem to work. Awaken, Chi. It's so beautiful outside today.

Maybe I should go out wicked. Yeah, it's almost done. Almost three.

Thank you, very nice, very nice. Aaron Billadou is here,

everybody, and thank you for coming in and playing for us live. Thank

you for having me. It was great. Should we introduced the Gentleman news

with you? Or does he not want to be? I don't know if

h oh, yeah, you're you're here? All right? Cool? We've

got uh you might remember him kind of a legendary appearance. Why isn't that

Oh? I know why? Sorry? Wrong, Mike? There we go.

Those headphones there too, if you want them, sure, but uh,

the last time you were on you brought some calls. You might remember

it. Was fun. Hue the Gecko is here too, great time.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely here like that fun absolutely And uh, speaking of

calls, if you'd like to join us, if you have any questions or

feedback or anything at all for our guests, uh six O three two five

h six O seven. The studio line is open six zho three two five

oh six O seven. And um, Aaron, how do you um?

For somebody who hasn't heard your music, how do you describe it to be?

Everyone always hates this question, but I mean what you're doing is is

unique. I mean do you do you just call it experimental? Yeah,

pretty much experimental. I'd play a lot of funk rock, a lot of

electronic stuff is uh yeah, put into it? Yeah, and um,

you've got again we should describe for those Well, I'll let you do it

if you can just kind of describe your setup for obviously people who are watching

online on Facebook see my live set. Yeah yeah, yeah, because it's

always when when you do your solo stuff, it's always just you right right,

it's yeah. So far yeah yeah. I played one show so far,

and that was Getcko Fest and I had Huey the Gecko on stage with

me at the time. So yeah, you know, so this is like

my second kind. I'm playing out Oh wow, my solo stuff. Yeah,

oh cool. It's kind of difficult for me to book gigs because people

want bands. Yeah, if I had a drummer, um right, be

able to get more gigs. But uh, you know, I'm plugging away.

Yeah yeah, is it? Um? I would imagine it's challenging to

because you have to construct all of that all of that audio that is playing

while you're playing the bass, so you can focus on playing the bass and

singing. I mean, is it is that a great deal of work to

do that? Uh? Well, I mean not really for me. It's

it's just my pleasure, you know. I love doing it. It keeps

me up all night and I put I play a lot of instruments that play

drums. I played keyboards yeah yeah, and but my main instruments based going

way back. Yeah, yeah, all the way back to like the old

days, like a change of season. Is that the band you were in

when I first met Season? Yeah, I feel like I feel like there

was a band before that. No, there was a band after that.

Because you've been isolated sequence with Auto, I remember that. Yeah, yeah,

but what was there something before a change of season? There was a

band I was in before in Manchester called Perfectly Normal. I don't know if

you heard that one, that might be what I'm thinking of. Um yeah

yeah, those those were my three early days. Yeah yeah, yeah,

in my twenties. Yeah. Yeah, you've been in uh, you've been

in a lot of bands. Okay. So so then there was a change

of season and then isolated sequence and then what was after that? I had

a band called Hall of Drone back in twenty fifteen, and that I had

Alfredo, uh and that he just uh got to New Hampshire from California like

brands Banking New and uh my cousin knew him, so she used us and

uh yeah we did that for a little while and then uh I learned how

to play keyboards and danks and Entra picked me up and I did that for

like, uh like eight months or so. That was great and uh uh

as soon as that ended, I had a lot of time to um do

my own album. I had it scheduled for almost a year. Yeah.

I like to schedule my my albums like nine months out. It puts a

deadline, yeah, you know, and it forces me to do it.

Yeah, you know, I knew I was gonna put one out in the

fall, but like, uh, I didn't know what I was gonna do.

Yeah, it just uh it really I put that out Destroyer together in

two months. Oh no kidding. Okay, where do you record? Do

you just? I do it all myself. Yeah, I mean that's that's

a lot to do on your own. But I would imagine it's also kind

of freeing because you're not You're not depending on anybody else. It's all when

it's all you. Frustrating though, because like I don't always have instruments,

Like I don't have a I don't play guitar very well. Yeah. Yoh,

so like I don't even own like I have an acoustic guitar and a

dot Bro. Yeah that's it, you know. Like so like all my

stuff is uh, I have to improvise and fill in with like keyboards and

other other things. Yeah. Yeah. Um, somebody's asking, Oh I

plus Michael's Law, which is an odd name, but they're from Greensboro,

North Carolina. Uh Aaron Bildau. We say who are your influences? We

say who is your favorite recording artist? Hashtag Matt Connerton. We ask him

a question already, that's how they talk in Greensboro. But yes, who

are your influences? Oh man, there's just so many. Yeah, you

know, when you're a musician, like I go way back, like like

right, yeah, I got White Zombie. I used to love electronic bands

like God Lives Underwater back in the day. Oh yeah, I'm stabbing Westward

like um, Gravity Kills. Those were all like influences Nine inch Nails and

stuff like that. And then it started playing bass. Yeah. Um,

so obviously all the bass players, all Jocko and all the greats and then

uh you know, Less Claypool and all that. Yeah, and then uh

yeah, I mean it's just developed into what I do now. Yeah,

many years of playing yeah, um yeah, I mean you're you've always been

a very impressive bass player, you know, thank you. It seems like

you can kind of do anything right like you well, I mean on the

bass. It's like I watched the way, you know, some of the

runs that you do and the popping and the slapping and um, you know,

I'm a bass player myself, so so I I I observe your bass

playing and I'm just like, oh my god, how does he do that

it was first of right, Yeah, I played bass, and I played

bassicly yeah, an iotas and everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

was in a bunch of but you know, my bass playing is very you

know, like bands wanted to play with me because I you know, I

was kind of a business guy and you know, and that kind of thing.

It had nothing to do with my bass playing. But um, but

I did play. You did the job I did. I did the job.

Yeah yeah, I mean it wasn't but I can't do what you do.

That's why I like, I look at what you do. I look

at what you doing. I'm like, oh my god, how do how

do his fingers move that fast? Yeah, it's just called twenty years of

playing. Yeah. Yeah, you know, if you if you get a

little better, yeah yeah, better get better. Yeah yeah. I always

put it down exactly So you're not so you're not currently in a band.

You're just doing the solo thing. And of course you work with and you

work with Hughey sometimes, right sometimes. Yeah. We put an album back

out a couple of months ago called Pink Chicken. The colab Random Collision was

good too. Oh yeah, so he's he appears on my album Destroyer on

the song random Collision. Oh okay, doing what playing guitar? Playing guitar

and doing vocals? Oh very cool, very cool. Yeah. Um.

Now I plus Michael's Law is asking we hashtag Aaron Bilido. Have you never

listened to the Thompson Twins back in the eighties, We say to you,

Aaron, No, but I'm gonna have to the Thompson Twins. Yeah.

There. They had a huge hit with a song called hold Me Now,

which you've probably heard you just so remember it because it's one of those songs.

Oh yeah, yeah, close stay with me. Yeah, there you

go. You got Yeah, you couldn't exist on the on this planet without

hearing that song at some point. Yeah, that was That was a big

Vanilli conversation. Uh oh yeah, that's too funny. Yeah, absolutely,

Um, very good. So you uh are now are you looking to So

you're not looking to get back into a band, You're just you're focusing on

the solo, right right. I want to try this for a while.

I've been I've been in a lot of bands, you know, but I've

never been so I just want to try something new. Yeah, you know,

like uh that that's what keeps me going. Back in uh January.

First, I put an album out called Zero Acid Burn and uh, it's

a techno album and it's all acid techno like in the style of the nineties.

And I used like old uh DR seven seventy drum machines. It's it's

I used all hard gear for it. Oh really to do it, and

it was just it's great. It's a one off. I don't think I'm

gonna do another one, but I'm gonna have to. That's on band camp

too, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to listen to that. I'm

very curious. Auto Kinzill plays on a song Nice Nice, Yeah, Auto

is amazing. How long did Isolated Sequence go? That was? That was

two years? Okay, it went for a long time. It was pretty

good. He tends to, um. You know, I was in a

band with him called Chemical Distance and right right after Auto. Yeah, Auto

tends to He kind of moves from one project to the next. But his

current project, Dust Profit, He's been doing it for a little while.

He seems, Yeah, it's his thing. I think he found it.

He found something that really sticks. And yeah, Jenny and I saw them

at you know, when they played Swarmy Fast and uh I think one other

show too. I saw them when I was in Thanks Snatra we played with

them dy Doom Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Just an Auto is

such a front man, I mean, you know, just real personality.

Yeah. Absolutely. He's got a great, great voice too. He's got

he's got that radio voice. Yeah yeah, yeah, I know he's Yeah,

he's got a deep voice. Yeah. Um so you uh so you're

trying to play more shows, so you're having you're having trouble getting booked because

you're not a full band. Is that? Oh, I just don't I

really don't know how to do it, you know. Yeah, I keep

you know, you write the people and just keep plugging away and keep plugging

away and sending his stuff. Not everybody like kind of gets it right.

When you're a low key genius, your humility has to super succeed or supersede

your genius. So you wouldn't be low key a genius if you were not

humble. So your humility supersede you're you know, your genius. So then

you kind of you know, like you said, not everyone's gonna get that

right. They think you'd be loud about your geniusness. But you're quiet,

right right. I mean I've always been the bass player, you know,

I've always been the guy like kind of off to the side behind the singer.

Yeah, yeah, you know, so I've I've never been I've never

been the front man. I was. I was the front and played bass

and hollow drone for a little while. That was a real difficult and a

little bit in the isolated sequence, me and Auto like took turns doing that.

Okay, but this is my first time ever doing this. I see

all these people you know, out and about busting and playing there. Everybody

plays acoustic guitar. Yeah, you know, it's super easy, and I'm

like, I could do that, you know, I could just like if

if I build a rig, you know, small enough and mobile enough,

I can go anywhere with this power, Like give me, give me five

feet and uh I'll make it work. Yeah yeah, and yeah, and

it doesn't. It really doesn't take up much room. No, yes,

I should for for people watching online, I should put the camera back on

it for a minute so people can see. Yeah, I mean it's got

uh yeah, it's it's it really doesn't take up much space at all.

And I got a thumb drive into the board. That gives me all my

backing tracks. Yeah, and it gives me the click and everything because I

need I need a click when you when you're playing with backing tracks. Yeah,

yeah, you know, And that's really it. I only really need

the voice process that A destroyers give me the robot right right, I'm figuring

out it's a work in progress. Yeah, well where does the name destroyer?

Like? Why did you decide to call with that? So? I

have a daughter and her name is Nora, which is my name backwards Aaron

backwards, Okay, and uh she's uh, you know, she's a handful

and she's been nicknamed Nora the Destroyer and uh I was playing that song one

day when I was, you know, first recording it and I was playing

it and I'm like, what do you think of this is? She loved

it and uh she's only seven. Um, and I asked, what do

you what do you think we should name it? And she said you should

call it destroy or destroyer. I was like, holy, you know that

was amazing. Uh, So I named it after her, basically very cool,

you know, Nora the Destroyer. Uh, people don't fall far from

the tree. She's she's great she's playing a little bit of keyboards too,

He's gonna say she musically in is Yeah, and my son and my son's

all into sports. He's a baseball player. Okay. Uh so no music

for him? Uh no, no, no, he turned next. Yeah,

we'll see. But his thing is baseball. He he lives baseball in

the Red Sox. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and and playing.

Um, now, do you have plans to uh? Because this this album

has been out for a little while, right right, I put it out

back in October. Okay, are you already working on the next one or

yeah, well that's gonna be out in November. I think, like twenty

November twenty second. I think I don't know what it's gonna sound like,

but I'm gonna have it done. You know, I've done it for the

last four albums. Yeah, so yeah, that I mean that's my plans.

Um. Yeah, At first I did, I had no plans on

playing this album live at all, really, And then I did a couple

more like I said, I did Techno one album, I did the Pink

Chicken album and with Huey and then um, I just you know, I

was playing along in my album. I'm like I could do this. I

just kind of make the tracks and go back into Ableton and pull out all

the bass, you know, and pull out all the vocals and make a

click and yeah, you know it's doable. Oh so in a way,

in order to play out live in a way, you had to remix the

album. Yeah, yeah, in a sense, yeah, yeah, some

of the some of the backing vocals I had to pull out or put bring

real way down. Yeah yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah.

When we did Mess live at gecko Fest, that was for me, my

favorite one, that one Mess. Yeah, you know when the adrenaline builds

on that one hit, Yeah, he really did, it really does,

and then it comes in and it's so that one was that was a great

show. Putting a little bit of electric leads on top of it too.

It just that one really had some energy. It has energy within it.

So it was like, oh and then we pushed it a little further so

where we could go with the live show was cool. Yeah. I mean

I'm looking forward to like I'm gonna get to the point like I can play

the whole album and I can play like a bunch of tracks off my first

album. Yeah, you talk got like a good hour's worth. Oh yeah,

you got a full set. Yeah, looking forward to that. Uh.

Dorothy George Opolis in the Facebook live chat says no, Dorothy never would

know. It's his first time striking out on his own. Very talented and

creative. Oh thank you, Dorothy, very nice. And I plus Michael's

Laws as hashtag Aaron billdo what's your favorite the outfield song your Love or say

it Isn't So? Say it Isn't So? Is that an outfield song?

Because because it's say it Isn't So by Daryl holland John Oates, I wonder

if I plus Michael's Law is a little confused, but m yeah, um,

what is so? What is Gecko Fest? What? What is that?

It's a show that I'll let who weeks wait it? So we uh

we rented out the Conquered Grange. Yeah. We worked together with a band

that you've had here, Cricket Cash. Uh. We did the I guess

the promotions in the event and you all that behind the scenes work with Crooked

Cash. Then we were a little bit some young guys because he went our

first, the behind the scenes, the promotion and the setup and stuff.

So Aaron is a veteran and he kind of came in and uh, and

know how we all worked together and made this show obviously the arts as well,

So he came in and uh we added him to that, and then

we added we've been working in the collab atmosphere, and I wasn't quite ready

to do Uh you're really exposed when you're just a solo artist. Oh yeah,

So I wasn't right quite ready to do that. So we just collaborated

for that night. Then I stepped off. He did his thing on his

own, and the little duo combination called Joint Adventure came in between and they

did a little acoustic and they give us a little cool down and then then

then we switched back to him and then the two of us and then Crooked

Cash did later on the evening, and uh we had a couple of bands.

Yeah, everything's done in street trash. Yeah it was. It was

a good little night and it was very successful evening successful and uh yeah,

I'm looking forward to do it again. We don't know we the location is

gonna change, but that's all on the hushash. Oh okay, So I

just recently came into an anchorage and that's all the hush oh, an Achorage.

Very nice. Well yeah, if you whatever shows in a different location

soon, Oh, very cool, very cool. Um. Now, how

often do you do you guys play together a lot or just a little bit,

just when we get together? Yeah, yeah, you know, sometimes

a couple times, I can. Sometimes it's every other month. Oh okay,

all right, so yeah, not not that often. Oh, I

plus Michael's loss at the outfield did their own version of say it isn't so

interesting. I don't know. I don't know if I plus Michael's laws uh

gets uh oh, Fredo is in the chat room, by the way,

Fredo says, will there be either I'm sorry, will there be a new

either Gecko version of a King Crimson song? Will there'll be a new version

of a Gecko version of a King Crimson song? I'm not I'm currently undertaking

projects of remix is uh we I've I do like sometimes EDM like type of

electronic things. Yeah, but but it's you know, always original, because

I have, like I said, people like Aaron where you said he does

his bass, he does the keys, he does the beats. So when

we can make stuff from scratch, why should we borrow? Right right right

right? I mean I have done covers in the past. I have nothing

against Uh. You can't really like find him on Apple Music of Spotify,

but you can find him on YouTube. But when we have these things where

we call each other and we say, oh, you know, just doing

laundry, it doesn't have the same effect of us having the little chuckles where

we know the it's like, oh, he knew the little thing behind the

song, right, yeah, right, like yeah, like like if you

know, if you're feeling down, you know, it's it's just another word

for depression to one laundry. Yeah, Or you're like, you know,

when we got us plick up each other's slack, it's like you're gonna kill

you my mess and it's like, oh, I see what you did there.

All the little insights from the albums, yeah, I don't know.

With the original stuff, it's like you can have a night where you all

get together and you play like uh some one artists, right, and everybody

plays a cover song from that guy and you connect as as as individual musicians

coming together. But when me and Aaron connect on our clapp thing, it's

like it's really hard to do your like solo thing and his solo thing and

then somehow blend it right because I'm weird so and and he's you know,

I'm weird too, I've been a long time. That's tricky. Uh yeah,

Fredo said the bass is dope on laundry all right, thanks, really

likes that. Uh. He also says that you and he did a Floyd

cover. Yeah, uh, Lucifer Sam, Okay, you can buy that

on YouTube. It's on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, cool. I don't

want to pay for it to be on Spotify, right, I understand.

I mean I like the one he played when I was here Frog Party that

Fredo's on. Fredo's part of Frog Party is great, okay, okay.

Fredos also on a Lady on the Shore. Oh okay, Oh yeah,

oh cool. I really love oh very nice. Yeah. We're actually gonna

play that in a couple of minutes. We're gonna that'll be uh well,

that seems to be like my popular one. Yeah. Oh cool, cool.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing that. Um yeah, so we'll

we'll play that in a couple of minutes. Actually, so before we run

out of time, are and I want to make sure that everybody knows where

to find you online, where to keep up, where to find the music,

where to keep up with everything you're doing. I'm sure you're gonna have

more shows in the future and all that stuff, and and and especially too,

we want to make sure people know how to spell your last name,

because I'm sure some people struggling with that. Yeah, yeah, no,

I mean you can. You can find like everything on YouTube. I got

almost two hundred videos over over like fifteen years. Oh wow, there,

so um everything is there. You can just if you use Spotify, just

look up my name Aaron Villa O B I L O D e AU Apple

Music. That's what I mean. My wife use, our family uses yeah,

and everywhere else. You just play you know, a distro kid and

they put it on like thirty uh thirty different platforms. Oh yeah, oh

yeah. No. It's a lot easier that it was back in the day.

The business has changed. It's incredible. It's incredible. There's so much

ability to hear like everybody's music. Yeah, you know, it's it's a

lot easier to record, yeah that it used to be, and cheaper,

yes, oh yeah, you know, and then the quality is just fantastic.

So uh, it's amazing. Me and my wife are always searching for

new people, new independent art. It's all kinds of stuff. Yeah yeah,

oh yeah, there's so music household, so much great talent out there.

And yeah, I just want really add I love the artwork in the

cinematography, the filming, in the way that Amy captures some of our Amy

Amy does like percent of my first for the artistic behind the scenes is invaluable,

like so valuable. Where you go wow, oh nice, yeah,

oh, very cool. It's hard to put this stuff together. She does

a lot of behind the scenes stuff. Excellent, excellent, oh, very

good, very good. And uh, Hue, where should people go to

find go online to find Hue the Gecko. Oh yeah, you just said

it, say Hue. There's the only one where you type it in it'll

it'll come up a lot faster than my name. That's it. Yeah,

it's very google noble, right, that is uh, that is for sure.

That is for sure. Well we're gonna end with uh yeah, we'll

end with this track Lady on the Lake, which which you said, oh

Lady on the Shore. I'm sorry, Oh, Lady on the Lake is

a movie, isn't it. Isn't that a m Night Shaloman movie or something.

It's like on Golden Yeah, Lady on the Shore, right, And

you said, and this is about Amy. Yes, it's a love song

for my wife. Oh, very nice, very nice. Yeah, So

we'll end with that. This is also, uh, from the album.

This is from Oh no, this is not from Destroyer. This is from

Hello to Nobody? Is is that your first is first of the first one?

Okay? Oh, very cool. So this one goes back what when

did this come out? Was that came out of twenty one? Okay?

Oh so not that long ago. Very cool, very cool. So we

will end with this, and uh, if you miss any part of today's

show, it'll be up in just a little bit at WMH radio dot org

and at my website Matt Connerton dot com. And thank you, thank you

again, thank you Aaron, thank you for having me, thank you Hughey

and Amy, and thank you Eric Pilcher for joining me in the first hour.

And we will close with this. This is Lady on the Shore by

Aaron Abilidou. Check this out.

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