Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-21-25 hour 2

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6:16 Speaker 8: Connorton Unleashed. That is go ahead and break. That is

6:19 Speaker 8: the Murphy Clark Band. Guys, Okay, right out of the gate.

6:23 Speaker 8: What's the correct way to say is it? Do I

6:25 Speaker 8: say Murphy Clark or is it the Murphy Clark Band?

6:28 Speaker 1: Yes, either one is. Finally, are whatever you want to

6:31 Speaker 1: call it Murphy Clark.

6:33 Speaker 8: Okay, So Jenny and I are joined live in studio

6:37 Speaker 8: by of course, Brian Murphy. Brian Murphy and Mike Clark.

6:40 Speaker 8: Is probably not Murphy, right, because then it would be

6:41 Speaker 8: the Murphy Clark right, Brian Murphy and Mike Clark, you're

6:45 Speaker 8: in studio and uh I love that track and of

6:48 Speaker 8: course as you as you witnessed, I could not help

6:51 Speaker 8: but sing along with it. And that's how you know

6:53 Speaker 8: you've got something right on the point, right, Yeah, when

6:55 Speaker 8: you when you play something for somebody and they can't

6:57 Speaker 8: help it sing along like it's not even like it's

6:59 Speaker 8: not like, oh I think I'll sing along to this.

7:01 Speaker 8: It's just an involuntary motion, you know.

7:04 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that's who we hope for.

7:07 Speaker 8: Absolutely, and we'll play some more of your stuff as

7:09 Speaker 8: we as we go along. But it's great to have

7:12 Speaker 8: you guys here.

7:12 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us and thank you for doing this.

7:14 Speaker 8: Oh.

7:15 Speaker 1: Absolutely no local bands need the support.

7:18 Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, well, we love it and there's so much

7:21 Speaker 8: you know, Jenny does all the booking and sometimes people

7:23 Speaker 8: will ask her, you know, where do you find all

7:25 Speaker 8: these great artists?

7:26 Speaker 1: And it's so much talent around around here. Absolutely, you

7:29 Speaker 1: know it's incredible. You just use the word yeah, yeah,

7:33 Speaker 1: I looked it up this morning. Don't ask me to

7:35 Speaker 1: spell it though, is a great word?

7:37 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, mean.

7:41 Speaker 1: A lot of yeah, you know, sometimes Brian needs help.

7:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, well we all need help something. Yeah, yeah, no,

7:52 Speaker 8: I love it. You guys have a great sound. I

7:54 Speaker 8: feel like kind of the secret weapon is the vocals

7:57 Speaker 8: and the harmonies and everything is and has this project existed?

8:01 Speaker 8: Have you guys been at this a while or is

8:02 Speaker 8: this new or.

8:04 Speaker 11: We've been collaborating for about thirty years?

8:07 Speaker 1: I think we started working.

8:09 Speaker 8: That's been a while.

8:10 Speaker 1: Yeah he started. You weren't even born, Matt, I think.

8:13 Speaker 8: Oh, my goodness, probably I probably was.

8:16 Speaker 11: But you know, we started, you know, way back in

8:21 Speaker 11: the day in the mid nineties, I was I was

8:24 Speaker 11: recording with Aquatanang was the name of the band. We

8:27 Speaker 11: were with Sony and Manhattan back in the big record days.

8:31 Speaker 11: Oh no, kidding, and you know we we worked there

8:34 Speaker 11: and then I wanted to find somebody local. So I

8:38 Speaker 11: did a session with Mike and I really liked the

8:40 Speaker 11: way he mixed, okay, and so we started working back then.

8:43 Speaker 11: He started running sound for us with Aquatanang and then

8:48 Speaker 11: started doing records together. You know, at that point we've

8:52 Speaker 11: been doing him ever since.

8:53 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that was in a bridge version.

8:56 Speaker 11: I sped it up a little bit, so but yeah,

9:01 Speaker 11: that's that's how it's done.

9:02 Speaker 1: You know, a bit more from there. Okay, yeah, okay,

9:06 Speaker 1: people change, you know, members changed, and the sound of

9:09 Speaker 1: the band changed. We went we're all electric now. Yeah

9:12 Speaker 1: that Aquatang was all acoustics. Oh yeah, yeah, so folks

9:16 Speaker 1: Dylan did it, We figured we could do it.

9:17 Speaker 8: Yeah.

9:18 Speaker 11: Yeah, so that actually because before you know, after Aquatanang,

9:23 Speaker 11: well with Aquatanang, Mike started to do percussion for us,

9:28 Speaker 11: work his way in. And then after that we decided

9:32 Speaker 11: to start a different project of the first iteration of

9:37 Speaker 11: Murphy Clark, which was Americana, right bass.

9:40 Speaker 1: I played the mandola.

9:41 Speaker 8: Oh no kidding.

9:41 Speaker 11: Yeah, And we did that, I think like twelve years

9:44 Speaker 11: until COVID hit Yeah.

9:46 Speaker 1: And that wiped everything. Yeah yeah, yeah.

9:49 Speaker 11: Our our guitar player had like fourteen kids and yeah

9:52 Speaker 11: then so we so then, uh, Mike's always wanted to

9:56 Speaker 11: go electric anyway, the acoustic thing was my thing. So yeah,

10:00 Speaker 11: you know, during the pandemic when we had the shutdown,

10:03 Speaker 11: it was just he and I and we sort of

10:06 Speaker 11: broke the rules and I kept going into the studio

10:08 Speaker 11: and we just started doing studio stuff, and.

10:10 Speaker 1: I kept handing him an electric See I'm in a

10:13 Speaker 1: rocker from way back when nothing wrong with acoustic stuff.

10:17 Speaker 11: So he kept saying, you know, so I took a

10:19 Speaker 11: couple of years and you know, got comfortable with the

10:21 Speaker 11: electric guitar. And now we have a new format with

10:26 Speaker 11: you know, but some of the like the female vocals, Uh,

10:29 Speaker 11: Marion and Cindy have been with us of course since

10:33 Speaker 11: the awkward.

10:35 Speaker 4: O.

10:35 Speaker 11: So four of us have been together since all that time.

10:39 Speaker 11: And now we have Gary Young who's a world class

10:42 Speaker 11: lead guitar player. He does a wonderful job is on

10:45 Speaker 11: the guitar now, Jeff Harrington on drums.

10:47 Speaker 1: Who who owns Indy Music.

10:49 Speaker 11: He owned Cindy Music in Amherst.

10:52 Speaker 1: That a little bit drum there, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

10:56 Speaker 1: I teach voice there, voice teacher there. Yeah. Yeah. We

11:00 Speaker 1: love it.

11:01 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah. The music all the time. Oh that's great. Yeah,

11:04 Speaker 8: that's great.

11:05 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's tremendous, you know. I mean and as a

11:08 Speaker 11: songwriter too, and you know, doing music to accompany other

11:12 Speaker 11: singers with every kind of song you can think of,

11:15 Speaker 11: it really helps you see chord progressions, melodies, all kinds

11:19 Speaker 11: of things like that.

11:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it gives you a real heightened.

11:21 Speaker 11: Understanding of songs and music and all that you know,

11:25 Speaker 11: and you just never know what you're going to get

11:27 Speaker 11: everything from Taylor Swift till like granddaddy, sure whatever, you know. Yeah,

11:32 Speaker 11: so yeah, that's so it's been great.

11:35 Speaker 8: And so you guys have worked together pretty consistently then

11:37 Speaker 8: over the decades. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you don't see

11:41 Speaker 8: that a lot. I mean, you know, we have sometimes

11:43 Speaker 8: a lot of bands on the show that people who

11:45 Speaker 8: have worked together for a long time, but they've worked together,

11:47 Speaker 8: but then not work together for a long time and

11:49 Speaker 8: then kind of reunited. But it sounds like you guys

11:50 Speaker 8: have been pretty consistent.

11:51 Speaker 1: Yeah.

11:52 Speaker 11: We have over one hundred and fifty published songs.

11:55 Speaker 1: Actually, oh my god, wow, yeah, two of them.

12:01 Speaker 8: Kidding, Now, what's the what's the live situation? Like, do

12:07 Speaker 8: you guys play out a lot or what's uh we're

12:10 Speaker 8: getting there. Yeah, we're kind of studio rats.

12:12 Speaker 1: But you know, we we played a few shows at

12:15 Speaker 1: Being into the Air and we'll getting our show together

12:17 Speaker 1: and we have some booked towards the end of the season,

12:20 Speaker 1: end of the summer.

12:21 Speaker 11: Yeah, one in mont Vernon on the twenty third, okay,

12:25 Speaker 11: in the town Square in mont Vernon.

12:27 Speaker 8: Oh, excellent.

12:28 Speaker 11: July twenty third, and that's at six. And then we

12:31 Speaker 11: have two shows in August, one at the Prayers of

12:35 Speaker 11: Nature the listening room there.

12:36 Speaker 8: Oh yes, you've got her right here. Oh yeah, what's

12:40 Speaker 8: that show? Yeah yeah, she's brought two or three times.

12:43 Speaker 1: She's a big supporter of local music.

12:45 Speaker 11: I love that absolutely, like you dedicated and devoted to musicians,

12:50 Speaker 11: and we honor that. That's a great thing. Yeah, I

12:53 Speaker 11: mean and so and then the that's the August eighth.

12:58 Speaker 11: We're there and I think it's Andre Sistitute. Yeah, that's

13:01 Speaker 11: the twenty fourth. Okay, that's it in Brookline. That's a

13:04 Speaker 11: really nice room too.

13:05 Speaker 1: There. It used to be an old club called the

13:07 Speaker 1: Big Beer, like seventies. I used to play there and

13:10 Speaker 1: they're in the seventies.

13:11 Speaker 8: Oh wow.

13:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. And they reopened at the Art Institute part in.

13:14 Speaker 1: It's an amazing room. Oh cool, Yeah, great. What's it

13:17 Speaker 1: called the Andres Institute. It used to be the Big

13:20 Speaker 1: Beer a longe okay, like long time ago. Yeah.

13:26 Speaker 8: What is so from from the perspective of you guys,

13:30 Speaker 8: what what has changed about? And this is something that

13:33 Speaker 8: comes up on the show a lot, is what has

13:36 Speaker 8: changed over the years as far as making music and

13:38 Speaker 8: and promoting music.

13:39 Speaker 1: And don't get me going on that. I guess my

13:41 Speaker 1: studio has been opened for forty years.

13:44 Speaker 8: Okay, so I'm really curious to get your perspective. Yeah,

13:46 Speaker 8: because everything's you know, obviously, the Internet changed everything.

13:49 Speaker 1: I mean when we started making records, we were using tape.

13:52 Speaker 8: Yeah.

13:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. Our editing capabilities was to raise blade and some

13:55 Speaker 1: splicing tape.

13:56 Speaker 8: Yeah.

13:57 Speaker 1: You know, so it's changed so much. Yeah, you know. Yeah,

14:00 Speaker 1: it's easy to make records now.

14:02 Speaker 8: Yeah.

14:02 Speaker 1: I mean Billie Eilish want five Grammys off something she

14:05 Speaker 1: made in her bedroom. Yep. You know. So it's just

14:08 Speaker 1: everything's changed in the music business. Yeah, some good things,

14:11 Speaker 1: some bad things, right.

14:13 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I think I think overall it's for the better. Right.

14:17 Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely? You know I love digital.

14:19 Speaker 8: Yeah.

14:19 Speaker 1: You couldn't pay me to go back to tape. I

14:22 Speaker 1: used to teach audio engineering at a tech school and

14:24 Speaker 1: all the kids would be like, I'm going to open

14:26 Speaker 1: a studio and do analog tape. And I was like, dudes,

14:29 Speaker 1: you've never touched a piece of tape. You don't want

14:31 Speaker 1: to do that. You don't want to go back there.

14:33 Speaker 11: Yeah, you certainly don't want to go back to a

14:35 Speaker 11: dat's Yeah.

14:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, when I was a kid, I actually remember a

14:40 Speaker 8: friend of mine had a reel to reel tape and

14:42 Speaker 8: I remember, you know, trying to. Of course, I screwed

14:45 Speaker 8: it all up and I remember trying to like shoee

14:47 Speaker 8: and yeah it was fun.

14:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I kind of appreciate those years though,

14:52 Speaker 1: because you know, I learned my skill from sort of

14:56 Speaker 1: the prehistoric way of recording to what it is now.

14:59 Speaker 11: And yeah, well I think it's really enhanced your mixing ability,

15:03 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, Like because in those days,

15:06 Speaker 11: you know, when you go into the studio, you had

15:08 Speaker 11: to rebuild the mix.

15:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have total recall.

15:11 Speaker 11: So now everything pops up where you left it, which

15:13 Speaker 11: I love, you know what I mean. But he used

15:16 Speaker 11: to have to rebuild the mix from scratch all day,

15:18 Speaker 11: So that's really.

15:19 Speaker 1: Good for you. Bring bring up the bass, you know,

15:21 Speaker 1: so you're doing that all day long, and the modern

15:23 Speaker 1: engineers don't have to do that. Right boom it's back,

15:26 Speaker 1: you know, right.

15:27 Speaker 11: Yeah, And the audience has changed too, you know what

15:30 Speaker 11: I mean. People have a lot more you know, like

15:32 Speaker 11: if like the nineties were kind of a golden age, right,

15:36 Speaker 11: you know, people bought CDs. You know, they bought CDs

15:40 Speaker 11: at your show or whatever like that. They listen to

15:42 Speaker 11: the CDs all the tracks, you know. Now it's different.

15:45 Speaker 11: People have a lot more entertainment options, you know, so

15:50 Speaker 11: music isn't king like it used to be, you know

15:53 Speaker 11: what I mean. But but I love the new format

15:56 Speaker 11: because you know, we get paid. You can get played

16:00 Speaker 11: all over the world, you know what I mean. I

16:03 Speaker 11: get royalty checks from ask Cap and Albania and things

16:07 Speaker 11: like that, you know, play were it played all over

16:09 Speaker 11: the world, you know, which is very interesting.

16:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you don't have to get into the

16:13 Speaker 1: record in the six store anymore.

16:14 Speaker 11: Right right, yeah, and if you didn't sell somebody your record,

16:18 Speaker 11: they didn't have it. Now, you know, It's which I love.

16:21 Speaker 11: You know, you get played on YouTube, you get played

16:23 Speaker 11: on Spotify, which all our music get played here.

16:26 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah yeah. Well also, you know, from the perspective

16:29 Speaker 8: we were talking about this earlier because we had on

16:32 Speaker 8: our first guests were from Ireland Moonlight eclips, and you know,

16:35 Speaker 8: obviously that wouldn't have happened pre Internet, right, you know,

16:38 Speaker 8: unless they were already famous. Right, But but doing this

16:41 Speaker 8: show too, you know, we were obviously We're in Manchester,

16:44 Speaker 8: New Hampshire at this this beautiful radio station WM and

16:47 Speaker 8: ah beautiful. But we have listeners all over the world

16:50 Speaker 8: and you know, we have people who are listening from

16:53 Speaker 8: Ireland in the in the chat.

16:54 Speaker 1: Room and and uh amazing.

16:56 Speaker 8: You know, it's the ability to connect with with pole

17:00 Speaker 8: globally is is just fantastic. And music is you know,

17:04 Speaker 8: the the international language anyway, So you know, it's wonderful

17:08 Speaker 8: as far as doing something like this and and what

17:12 Speaker 8: like what are because Mike you you alluded to some somethings.

17:16 Speaker 8: Something's for the.

17:17 Speaker 1: Better right overall? But absolutely well, what have what have?

17:19 Speaker 8: What have we? Is there something we've lost along the

17:22 Speaker 8: way with.

17:23 Speaker 1: I think we've lost a lot of the soul in

17:25 Speaker 1: our music, you know, because you know, and I'm not

17:27 Speaker 1: putt we use computers and samples and you know, we

17:31 Speaker 1: integrate them with real playing. But a lot of it's

17:34 Speaker 1: it seems like soulless to me, it's too much, too mechanical.

17:38 Speaker 11: Sometimes, Okay, I don't know, you know, because mostly you

17:41 Speaker 11: know a lot of it is pre existing tracks. You know,

17:44 Speaker 11: people are dragging and dropping and the level of musicianship

17:47 Speaker 11: is different, right if you're dragging in all your track

17:50 Speaker 11: your tracks and dropping them and then singing something over it.

17:53 Speaker 11: It's not the same thing as people sitting over a

17:56 Speaker 11: piano or over a guitar bent over there for years

17:59 Speaker 11: like how to play right, and all that music is

18:02 Speaker 11: going through them, through their heart, their soul, their their mind. Yeah,

18:06 Speaker 11: if you drag and drop stuff, you drag it, you

18:08 Speaker 11: you and then sing over it. It's not it's not

18:10 Speaker 11: going through you, and it's not a development.

18:13 Speaker 1: And of course AI is going to push that narrative

18:16 Speaker 1: even more.

18:17 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know it already. Yeah, it already is

18:20 Speaker 8: absolutely Suno dot com. We've used that on the show.

18:24 Speaker 1: It's incredible.

18:25 Speaker 8: It is.

18:26 Speaker 1: The recording sounds amazing. I know they're formulaic because it's

18:29 Speaker 1: machine learning, but yeah, you know, if you ask it

18:32 Speaker 1: to do a country song, it sounds like modern country.

18:34 Speaker 8: It does.

18:35 Speaker 1: It's incredible.

18:36 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, we tried it on. Uh

18:39 Speaker 8: we did kind of a live demonstration of it on

18:41 Speaker 8: the show, because we talked about that a lot of

18:42 Speaker 8: on the show AI and the effect of it on

18:44 Speaker 8: the music industry, and so we Uh, it was something

18:48 Speaker 8: I'd kind of had in my back pocket for for

18:49 Speaker 8: a long time an idea. You know, sometime when we

18:52 Speaker 8: have a segment, maybe a guest cancels or something. You know,

18:55 Speaker 8: there's always things going on in the music industry, so

18:56 Speaker 8: there's always things to talk about. So I was like,

18:58 Speaker 8: you know what, let's try uh, let's try this. We'll

19:00 Speaker 8: make a song using SUNO and just see what happens.

19:03 Speaker 1: Kind of fun lyrics for it.

19:05 Speaker 12: Oh.

19:05 Speaker 8: We Well, what we did was, you know, we just

19:07 Speaker 8: put in a bunch of prompts, you know, and and

19:09 Speaker 8: see what it spits out right. And Jenny and I both,

19:12 Speaker 8: you know, we we uh just sat here kind of gobsmacked, like, wow,

19:16 Speaker 8: this is even better than we would have expected.

19:20 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 11: No, I feel like, I mean, it's John Henry's style

19:23 Speaker 11: battle with a I, you know, call what I use

19:26 Speaker 11: RI I.

19:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, we used a lot of A I in my

19:29 Speaker 1: studio though. You know, it's incredible tools to like check

19:32 Speaker 1: tonal balance on or you know, you know, remove noise

19:38 Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's great tools for it, you know.

19:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, but absolutely yeah. And I assume so everything you

19:44 Speaker 8: guys have done is recorded there, I assume Yeah.

19:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, creative my studio, Yeah yeah, yeah, No.

19:50 Speaker 8: It sounds it sounds fantastic.

19:52 Speaker 1: Oh. Thanks.

19:52 Speaker 8: Where is your studio?

19:54 Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, what's it called Clark Creative? Clark Creative, Yeah,

19:59 Speaker 1: and I've been there. I'm celebrating my fortieth the anniversary.

20:02 Speaker 8: Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

20:05 Speaker 1: Could argue be the longest running commercial studio in New England.

20:08 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a long time.

20:11 Speaker 8: You know what's interesting about that is people. One of

20:17 Speaker 8: the things I find that's interesting about getting older is

20:21 Speaker 8: just seeing like what technologies change, what technologies go away,

20:25 Speaker 8: what technologies stick around, but also sometimes what people thought

20:31 Speaker 8: was going to change but doesn't change. And one of

20:34 Speaker 8: the things that has not changed as much is recording

20:39 Speaker 8: in terms of there's still a lot of really good

20:41 Speaker 8: recording studios around. Like you're obviously still thriving. You're celebrating

20:46 Speaker 8: forty years at Clark Creative.

20:47 Speaker 1: Yeah.

20:48 Speaker 8: And the reason I bring that up is because, you know,

20:50 Speaker 8: that's one of the things people predicted, you know, with

20:52 Speaker 8: the advent of home recording and then all the technology

20:55 Speaker 8: that we.

20:56 Speaker 1: Have now see a lot of beings integrate that with though,

21:00 Speaker 1: like the band you're having on next week, Yeah, they'll

21:02 Speaker 1: come in and do their drum tracks with me or

21:05 Speaker 1: their rhythm section. They'll take it home, bring the files

21:08 Speaker 1: home and do all the close micing stuff like the

21:10 Speaker 1: vocals guitars because a lot of people use modeling now

21:14 Speaker 1: for guitars. Yeah, and then they bring it back to

21:16 Speaker 1: me for mixing. So you know, you know, you can

21:20 Speaker 1: run away from it, but you have to learn how

21:23 Speaker 1: to integrate that into your business, right right.

21:26 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, So in your experience over the past forty

21:29 Speaker 8: well in more recent years with all this technology, are

21:32 Speaker 8: you still as busy as ever?

21:33 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wonderful. And I do some

21:36 Speaker 1: commercial stuff too, like I draw the podcasts for Business

21:39 Speaker 1: New Hampshire magazine. Yeah, and I work for this big

21:43 Speaker 1: company called the Pilot Workshops, the pay site for pilots.

21:46 Speaker 1: They teach them how to not crash their plan.

21:48 Speaker 8: Oh no, kidding that.

21:49 Speaker 1: So you know, I do some of that stuff too,

21:51 Speaker 1: which I enjoy. Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, super busy.

21:55 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

21:56 Speaker 11: Well, and I think like the home recording is a

21:59 Speaker 11: bit is a bit of a trap for musicians too,

22:02 Speaker 11: because you get bogged down in the in the engineering, right,

22:06 Speaker 11: so you know, and it takes away from the creative

22:10 Speaker 11: process you're you know, you're you're not focusing on your

22:13 Speaker 11: song and your performance.

22:14 Speaker 1: You're you know.

22:16 Speaker 11: You guess compressive impressors, reverbs, eques, you know. So I

22:19 Speaker 11: recommend to songwriters to get your eyes ideas down right

22:25 Speaker 11: and get a sketch of it, and then take it

22:27 Speaker 11: to the studio and do it in the studio, right,

22:30 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, and use the tools that

22:33 Speaker 11: you have with the home recording, but don't get bogged

22:35 Speaker 11: down it like so many people just get hung up

22:38 Speaker 11: on the technicalities, and you know, you need an engineer

22:41 Speaker 11: to engineer.

22:41 Speaker 1: That, you know.

22:42 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Also a lot of times too, uh, you know,

22:46 Speaker 8: someone an engineer might become a producer, a de facto producer, right,

22:51 Speaker 8: you know, you.

22:52 Speaker 1: Kind of have to wear both those hats at the

22:53 Speaker 1: level where you work at. Yeah, you know. Yeah, very

22:56 Speaker 1: few bands can afford a producer or even trust producer

23:00 Speaker 1: with their music. You have to trust the guy that's

23:02 Speaker 1: making the decisions on your tracks, which is a lot

23:06 Speaker 1: of times bands don't want to relinquish that control.

23:09 Speaker 8: Of course I get that.

23:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, once you get a rapport with

23:13 Speaker 1: the artists, they trust you to kind of put your

23:16 Speaker 1: two cents in on you know, the arrangements or whatnot.

23:19 Speaker 8: Of course. Yeah, yeah, who is it that we have

23:22 Speaker 8: on next week? Who's recording with you? Now?

23:23 Speaker 1: What do they call Parental Eye or something? It's Jake Young?

23:26 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yeah.

23:27 Speaker 1: I always can't remember the name of their band. I

23:29 Speaker 1: can't pronounce the first.

23:31 Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing. Yeah, I think. I think even

23:33 Speaker 8: when he was here, he he even said, uh, yeah,

23:35 Speaker 8: he was here with the Youngs, and he even said, yeah,

23:37 Speaker 8: no one can pronounce the name of this other project.

23:39 Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't do it, but we did Aquatang.

23:43 Speaker 1: Don't do it, guys, pay.

23:47 Speaker 8: I'm curious about Aquatinang. So you were were you were

23:51 Speaker 8: signed to a major?

23:53 Speaker 1: We were.

23:54 Speaker 11: We were at Sony in Manhattan. We never actually got signed.

23:57 Speaker 11: We were brought in there as like a spec project.

24:00 Speaker 11: Oh really okay, and we worked.

24:02 Speaker 1: It was great.

24:02 Speaker 11: I mean, we were down in Sony in the nineties.

24:04 Speaker 11: It was amazing the music going on, you know, like, yeah,

24:07 Speaker 11: one of the times we were there, we were doing

24:09 Speaker 11: a session and the engineer came in and said, we

24:14 Speaker 11: all have to get out of here because Michael's here.

24:16 Speaker 1: And I said, Michael, who it wasn't me my reason

24:20 Speaker 1: to leave?

24:22 Speaker 11: And they said Michael Jackson. And so Michael Jackson came

24:25 Speaker 11: in with like his twenty twenty people strong really yeah yeah,

24:31 Speaker 11: and they just he wanted everyone else out the boots.

24:34 Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks Michael.

24:36 Speaker 8: Oh that's fun.

24:36 Speaker 1: I'm alive and you're not.

24:38 Speaker 8: That's well, that's.

24:41 Speaker 1: No.

24:42 Speaker 11: But but that's it was. It was amazing. Yeah, it

24:46 Speaker 11: was amazing. And but but but Mike's Mike's a better

24:50 Speaker 11: engineer than anybody down in Sony though.

24:52 Speaker 1: That's for sure.

24:53 Speaker 8: Here you go.

24:53 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, yeah, I don't want to borrow money or something, Yes,

24:56 Speaker 1: I do. I don't have any I guess that was

24:58 Speaker 1: pretty sure.

24:59 Speaker 8: Parents, Well, he won't be borrowing any money from Michael

25:03 Speaker 8: Jackson's estate, so, you know, apparently, so you know.

25:07 Speaker 11: I mean, Ozzie was down there. I peed next to

25:10 Speaker 11: jay Z.

25:12 Speaker 8: Jay next to jay Z. Yeah, oh wow, that's the

25:15 Speaker 8: one thing.

25:15 Speaker 1: It wasn't k Kelly.

25:16 Speaker 11: It might be a different, yeah scenario, Jase didn't pay.

25:20 Speaker 8: No kidding me. Well, actually some of the allegations against

25:23 Speaker 8: jay Z, now that that might you know, crazy, Yeah, yeah,

25:26 Speaker 8: that could have been risky.

25:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he had no interest in me, apparently.

25:33 Speaker 8: I hope none of that's true because ninety nine Problems

25:36 Speaker 8: is like my favorite hip hop song at all time. Yeah,

25:38 Speaker 8: I hope none of that's true.

25:39 Speaker 1: He's still considered the best hip hop artists.

25:42 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I love jay Z, so I hope no

25:45 Speaker 8: of that sounds true. Yeah, but oh boy, we should

25:50 Speaker 8: play another track. What do you guys, I'll let you pick.

25:52 Speaker 8: I mean, what would you guys like to to feature

25:55 Speaker 8: next of the songs that he's one?

25:57 Speaker 1: Sure, it's kind of interesting. There's some horns in it.

26:00 Speaker 8: Oh she's the one?

26:00 Speaker 1: Yeah?

26:01 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, now who's who's playing the horns on this?

26:05 Speaker 13: Me?

26:06 Speaker 1: Yeah?

26:06 Speaker 11: We did on keyboard.

26:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to use this program called Arcade. It's

26:10 Speaker 1: really cool. Like it's a California company. And what they

26:13 Speaker 1: do is they give you phrases of an instrument, so

26:15 Speaker 1: you kind of play it yourself. So you pick what

26:18 Speaker 1: you want to use out of the phrase. Can you

26:20 Speaker 1: develop it that way? It's not a loop? Okay, so

26:23 Speaker 1: it's there's still some human interaction with the program. Yeah,

26:26 Speaker 1: it's cool, it's cool. Yeah. These are what do you

26:28 Speaker 1: call them? Probably township township horn? Yeah, because kind of

26:31 Speaker 1: reggae sounding, okay, cool. Yeah, they're slightly detuned, you know,

26:35 Speaker 1: what I mean.

26:36 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, cool, Let's give this a

26:38 Speaker 8: spind This is She's the one, and this is the

26:40 Speaker 8: Murphy Clark bands.

27:03 Speaker 14: She's the kind of lady you don't want to awake

27:08 Speaker 14: her while she's sleep, A certain kind of someone you

27:16 Speaker 14: can tell her about the company.

27:20 Speaker 3: She clean.

27:24 Speaker 15: Pusiness, the goodness of you one and loves away. Goodness

27:30 Speaker 15: is the beauty one that lights away oh oh style,

27:39 Speaker 15: easy agent.

27:42 Speaker 10: For a while.

27:45 Speaker 8: And it's been a walk.

27:51 Speaker 3: She's the one, a.

27:57 Speaker 14: Certain kind of flower that God himself has shielded with

28:03 Speaker 14: his hands, and out of the ashes of a fire

28:11 Speaker 14: comes up strong good one to stand and us is

28:18 Speaker 14: the goodness of who loves away.

28:22 Speaker 2: Goodness is the beauty.

28:26 Speaker 3: One and lights the way O rais ow style easy.

28:36 Speaker 1: For one, and it's been working.

28:45 Speaker 3: She's the one.

28:50 Speaker 5: She's the one.

29:02 Speaker 10: Till the night until he break it down.

29:06 Speaker 14: I see her like shine up.

29:14 Speaker 9: Night, I see her life.

29:36 Speaker 5: She's she's telling.

29:43 Speaker 3: Me she's the CANU lady. Don't want to wake up? Why?

29:59 Speaker 12: Why?

30:19 Speaker 5: Hmm?

30:19 Speaker 8: I love that. That's a nice sound.

30:21 Speaker 1: Brian wrote that for Sydney Sweeney.

30:23 Speaker 16: I really like that one.

30:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know who Sydney Sweeney.

30:28 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, who's Sydney Sweeney? What?

30:32 Speaker 1: You guys don't get out much, do you.

30:34 Speaker 16: I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.

30:35 Speaker 8: I feel like I should know. I was gonna say,

30:39 Speaker 8: I feel like I should know the reference Murphy Clark

30:43 Speaker 8: band here and uh here in studio with us Brian

30:45 Speaker 8: Murphy and Mike Clark. You know what I like about that?

30:47 Speaker 8: In the mix? I like the way the horns are

30:52 Speaker 8: are present, but they're not like sometimes when you hear

30:57 Speaker 8: horns they're loud, Yeah, you know what I mean. And

31:00 Speaker 8: though and and I like the where the horns sit

31:03 Speaker 8: in the mix.

31:04 Speaker 1: Well, well, definitely a vocal band, so everything kind of

31:06 Speaker 1: like goes under the vocals, you know. Yeah, yeah, but

31:11 Speaker 1: it's a hook I mean yeah, it's a hook onto itself.

31:13 Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I like it. It has a lot of texture yea.

31:16 Speaker 8: And the vocals too aren't super loud either. It's interesting.

31:20 Speaker 8: But I really like the mix. Yeah, absolutely absolutely that.

31:24 Speaker 11: I think that's one of his strong suits Mike, is

31:27 Speaker 11: his mixing ability.

31:28 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I think that's really like definitely that's what.

31:31 Speaker 11: Attracted to me in the beginning.

31:34 Speaker 1: Dashing, good look and the hair, yeah, the hair.

31:37 Speaker 16: And he said you're a vocal teacher, right, yes I am.

31:40 Speaker 1: Yeah.

31:40 Speaker 16: So do you ever get students that just want to

31:42 Speaker 16: sing karaoke without killing any animals?

31:44 Speaker 12: Yeah?

31:45 Speaker 11: I do get I get the karaoke contingent, no doubt,

31:48 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. Yeah, but yeah, and that's

31:51 Speaker 11: the beauty of it. I have singers across the spectrum,

31:53 Speaker 11: you know, I really love doing that doing that.

31:56 Speaker 8: Do you do you ever This might be a strange question,

31:59 Speaker 8: but do you ever have to kind of turn away

32:01 Speaker 8: anybody like like, do you ever have you ever had

32:03 Speaker 8: a student who you just kind of feel like how

32:07 Speaker 8: they're not going to get this?

32:09 Speaker 11: Well, typically not, because you know, everyone can get better

32:14 Speaker 11: as long as they're not, you know, tone deaf.

32:17 Speaker 1: Right.

32:18 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a difference between being tone deaf and being

32:21 Speaker 11: pitched deficient.

32:22 Speaker 9: Right.

32:22 Speaker 11: Pitch deficiency can be you can train somebody to get

32:26 Speaker 11: their pitches correct. If somebody's actually tone deaf, they don't

32:29 Speaker 11: really like music anyway, right, So I don't get those

32:33 Speaker 11: kind of people because they don't enjoy music.

32:35 Speaker 1: Okay, So and.

32:36 Speaker 11: I do get people from time to time. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

32:39 Speaker 11: there's there's a difference. And I do get people, you know,

32:43 Speaker 11: from time to time that say, you know, after we

32:46 Speaker 11: do a couple of lessons, they say, what do you think,

32:48 Speaker 11: And I'll tell them, I'll say, you know, if they're

32:50 Speaker 11: pitch deficient, I'll say, you will be able to sing,

32:53 Speaker 11: but it's going to be a lot of work. If

32:55 Speaker 11: you want to do the work, we can get it done,

32:57 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. And they're never going to

32:58 Speaker 11: be your great singers, right, but you can be good

33:01 Speaker 11: enough to sing in your church band, or sing backups

33:04 Speaker 11: in your band, or do the occasional lead vocal in

33:07 Speaker 11: your group. But you know, great singers, though, usually come

33:11 Speaker 11: to me singing already.

33:13 Speaker 8: Okay, interesting, yeah, yeah. Part of why that's so interesting

33:17 Speaker 8: to me is so I went through a few different

33:19 Speaker 8: vocal teachers, uh along the way. And you might even

33:23 Speaker 8: know I'm rolling Belisle. Is that a familiar I recognized

33:27 Speaker 8: because you have. He was the owner of Belile Music

33:29 Speaker 8: here in Manchester. Yeah, yeah, and I went. I went

33:33 Speaker 8: to him and a couple other people over the years,

33:35 Speaker 8: and I you know, it's it's an odd thing with me.

33:39 Speaker 8: I'm actually not a bad harmony singer. I can kind

33:41 Speaker 8: of lock in and find the octave and whatnot. But

33:43 Speaker 8: on my own I.

33:44 Speaker 1: Get lost pay the band.

33:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've not currently, but I'm a musician, you know.

33:49 Speaker 8: I play bass and a little bit of guitar, and

33:51 Speaker 8: I'm certainly do this. Yeah, yeah it.

33:56 Speaker 11: Yeah, if you love music, you're not tone deaf.

33:59 Speaker 1: Okay what I mean?

34:00 Speaker 11: But pitch deficiency is a coordination thing.

34:03 Speaker 1: No, you're You're a better singer, anyone can say.

34:07 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, if you if you enjoy music, you can

34:10 Speaker 11: do it. And it's just because typically that's a coordination issue, right,

34:15 Speaker 11: It's because what you're hearing in your you know, head

34:19 Speaker 11: is not coordinating up with your your voice. Yeah right,

34:22 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. So that can be trained in. Okay,

34:25 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. That's that's the fundamental difference there.

34:29 Speaker 8: Okay, just hope for me yet.

34:31 Speaker 16: Yeah, Grandma says I killed cats.

34:33 Speaker 8: Oh, Jenny is a better singer than she thinks she is.

34:36 Speaker 8: But but so but so tone deafness though, So that's real.

34:42 Speaker 8: That's a real thing, because that's the other thing I

34:44 Speaker 8: was curious about.

34:44 Speaker 11: And you meet people like that from time to time,

34:46 Speaker 11: Like you used to fish with a guy. He didn't

34:48 Speaker 11: care what radio station was on, you're getting this truck

34:50 Speaker 11: and what the hell you listening to? He said, It's

34:53 Speaker 11: all the same to me. It's just noise.

34:55 Speaker 16: That's sprising to me. I would have never thought that.

34:58 Speaker 16: I mean, I thought that I could be tone deaf,

35:00 Speaker 16: because I you know what I mean. But I never

35:02 Speaker 16: thought that people who are tone deaf are generally not

35:06 Speaker 16: happy about music.

35:07 Speaker 11: Yeah, they just don't like it because they don't hear

35:10 Speaker 11: them melodic difference.

35:11 Speaker 1: So it's just irritating.

35:13 Speaker 8: That's interesting.

35:13 Speaker 11: You don't hear melody, it's just noise.

35:16 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, because I've heard people say, yeah, I

35:19 Speaker 8: don't really like music, and it's but rarely have I

35:21 Speaker 8: heard anyone say that. And then when I when someone

35:23 Speaker 8: does say that, it's like, you know, I've always assumed

35:25 Speaker 8: there's something neurologically wrong with them or something else, because

35:28 Speaker 8: who doesn't like music? It seems so strange.

35:30 Speaker 16: You're kind of right, because if somebody's tone death.

35:33 Speaker 1: That is right, it would probably annoy them rather than

35:37 Speaker 1: entertain them.

35:38 Speaker 8: That's interesting an estimate of how many people like that

35:40 Speaker 8: are in the world, or because I would assume that's

35:42 Speaker 8: extremely rare, right, it's gotta be.

35:44 Speaker 11: I've never done any research. Yeah, you know, I just

35:47 Speaker 11: know that.

35:47 Speaker 8: I'm just curious. You know that I'm thinking about it.

35:49 Speaker 11: But most of the time, those you know, those people

35:52 Speaker 11: don't come for voice lessons because they don't care.

35:54 Speaker 8: About it, right, They wouldn't best the people that are

35:57 Speaker 8: pitched efficient.

35:58 Speaker 11: And a lot of people say the same thing as

35:59 Speaker 11: you've said, is I can sing harmony, I can sing

36:02 Speaker 11: with others, they can sing in a choir.

36:04 Speaker 1: But when they're but training in okay.

36:06 Speaker 11: You know, through exercises and you know, like dedication.

36:09 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you have to work out. I still

36:11 Speaker 1: won't give me a microphone. No, you don't sink mike, No, no,

36:15 Speaker 1: only in the shower.

36:16 Speaker 8: Okay.

36:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I get an audience to come in

36:19 Speaker 1: with me, but a shower or.

36:21 Speaker 16: Cooking for me. But you are correct, it is a

36:24 Speaker 16: very low number. Back in twenty seventeen, they did a

36:26 Speaker 16: study estimating that between one point five percent to up

36:30 Speaker 16: to four percent of people have tone deafness, also known

36:34 Speaker 16: as a musia. M A M S.

36:37 Speaker 11: I go, Brice, I don't think it should be funny.

36:39 Speaker 11: I got a musia. Yeah, I took penestill and mind

36:43 Speaker 11: cleared up. Okay, you're shut his microphone. I'll take it

36:49 Speaker 11: from here.

36:50 Speaker 16: It is a it can be congenital, in which case

36:54 Speaker 16: it can be more severe, which is rarer than people

36:58 Speaker 16: in general who are tone deaf, which is that one

37:00 Speaker 16: to four percent. So it is very a very low

37:03 Speaker 16: percentage of the population.

37:04 Speaker 8: Yeah.

37:04 Speaker 1: Interesting.

37:05 Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's not the people we.

37:07 Speaker 16: Thought it was. But it's not the people I would

37:09 Speaker 16: have thought it was. I would have thought that. It's

37:11 Speaker 16: like I didn't I can't hit that note. So I'm

37:13 Speaker 16: tone deaf because I.

37:14 Speaker 1: Can't hit right.

37:15 Speaker 16: That's what I thought that it meant, and a.

37:17 Speaker 11: Lot of times too, like you can go in somebody's

37:20 Speaker 11: vocal range and you can find out right that place

37:23 Speaker 11: and their voice, you know, especially the upper bridge of

37:27 Speaker 11: someone's voice where the coordination's going flat a little bit.

37:30 Speaker 11: I'll know exactly what to do.

37:32 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.

37:33 Speaker 11: You know exactly the range to work, and you know

37:35 Speaker 11: where the coordination issue is.

37:37 Speaker 8: Yeah. I remember Roland doing that with me and trying

37:40 Speaker 8: to figure out where my range was.

37:42 Speaker 16: No wonder. You guys have beautiful harmonies.

37:44 Speaker 11: Oh thanks, you just gorgeous. Marion and Cindy have always

37:47 Speaker 11: been like that. They sing together just beautifully. They have

37:53 Speaker 11: a real super chemistry.

37:55 Speaker 16: It sounds like they're related, you know what I mean,

37:57 Speaker 16: how related people can really get that crazy harm.

38:00 Speaker 1: Ye you sing together for thirty five years or whatever

38:05 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, well yeah, yeah.

38:07 Speaker 11: I can remember one time I was at a bluegrass

38:10 Speaker 11: festival in Texas, uh, you know, in the eighties, and

38:13 Speaker 11: Marian and Cindy were there with me, and they had

38:16 Speaker 11: they weren't really singing yet, you know what I mean.

38:18 Speaker 11: So I was with my banjo player and we were

38:20 Speaker 11: out going and playing with everybody. And I come back

38:23 Speaker 11: and there's this beautiful singing going on in the tent.

38:25 Speaker 11: I'm like, what the hell is going on in there?

38:27 Speaker 11: I open it up and it's Cindy and Marion and

38:30 Speaker 11: Marian's on guitar and they're harmonized.

38:31 Speaker 1: Like Chris, I said, I didn't.

38:32 Speaker 11: Know you guys could harmonize like that. They go, oh yeah.

38:35 Speaker 11: So that's where it began, you know, like I kind

38:38 Speaker 11: of realized, like, what the hell you know.

38:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, I accidents, yeah yeah, yeah.

38:42 Speaker 11: And they just right from the beginning had had a

38:45 Speaker 11: kind of a chemistry.

38:46 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool. Is uh? Now

38:50 Speaker 8: some of the early music that you guys did. Is

38:52 Speaker 8: that all available because you said you've one hundred and

38:55 Speaker 8: fifty published.

38:55 Speaker 1: Ye, all of it.

38:56 Speaker 11: The awkwardanang stuff is still it still gets spun all

39:00 Speaker 11: the time. You know, there's stuff about that like she

39:03 Speaker 11: Reigns particularly and fragile Is and Nail the aquatanang Ones,

39:06 Speaker 11: those two in particular, where they're sort of the band

39:09 Speaker 11: at the height of their powers. Okay, And it sounds

39:13 Speaker 11: like the nineties. I mean like I put that on

39:15 Speaker 11: and I just think, oh, yeah, here we are back

39:16 Speaker 11: there again, you know, kidding it's interesting.

39:19 Speaker 8: I'll have to check some of that out later. I'm curious. Yeah,

39:21 Speaker 8: I'll do a deep dive.

39:23 Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, And uh, we've been working together, like

39:26 Speaker 11: I said, ever since then. So yeah, you know, it's

39:28 Speaker 11: a it's a real uh. I think it's historic. I

39:31 Speaker 11: think New Hampshire musical history, our collaboration over the years.

39:36 Speaker 11: You know, even though you know not a lot of

39:37 Speaker 11: people know about it.

39:38 Speaker 8: I think, well, it must be kind of intuitive, right,

39:40 Speaker 8: especially at this point. Yeah, like it probably is effortless.

39:44 Speaker 11: The work, The workflows very nice. Yeah, like now I'll

39:47 Speaker 11: write a couple of songs or when we're ready for

39:49 Speaker 11: a new song. He'll he'll just say, what have you got, yeah,

39:51 Speaker 11: and I'll just I'll get out my guitar and I'll

39:53 Speaker 11: play through a few things and he'll say that one yeah,

39:56 Speaker 11: and then and then we start to arrange it. Uh.

39:58 Speaker 11: You know, Mike's very good with your arrangement. And it's

40:01 Speaker 11: really nice for a songwriter and a singer to have

40:04 Speaker 11: like what I call ears on the outside. You know,

40:06 Speaker 11: if somebody that listens to your music and says I

40:09 Speaker 11: like this, I don't like that. You know, I need

40:11 Speaker 11: to trust him with it, though, and he can be

40:13 Speaker 11: honest with me and say, you know, you're you're pushing

40:15 Speaker 11: too hard here, or you're biting down on that, or

40:17 Speaker 11: you know, things like that. It would normally hurt your

40:19 Speaker 11: feelings and I'll just you.

40:20 Speaker 1: Know, right right.

40:22 Speaker 11: But but it's really you know, for somebody, you know,

40:26 Speaker 11: and so he'll pick generally, you know, I'll run through

40:28 Speaker 11: a couple like, uh, go on, go ahead and break.

40:32 Speaker 11: I wrote this past Valentine's Stay because I was down

40:35 Speaker 11: with influenza a I believe, and I was out for it,

40:38 Speaker 11: you know, And that the week I was out, I

40:40 Speaker 11: wrote three songs that week, which is great and and

40:42 Speaker 11: go ahead and Break was the last one of the three.

40:44 Speaker 1: Okay, And so he says, what have you got?

40:47 Speaker 11: So I started playing that when he goes, that's the one.

40:49 Speaker 11: Let's do that one, you know, so he and then

40:51 Speaker 11: you know, then the band gets together, we start to

40:53 Speaker 11: arrange it.

40:54 Speaker 1: You know.

40:54 Speaker 11: Jeff Harrington, the drummer, had some nice arrangement ideas for

40:58 Speaker 11: for go ahead and break and so yeah, you know

41:00 Speaker 11: we sort of do that as a band, yeah, and

41:03 Speaker 11: arrange it. And and for a songwriter too. Had to

41:05 Speaker 11: have a team that you can work with, like cause

41:09 Speaker 11: Cindy and Marion are great, like we like this. We

41:11 Speaker 11: don't like that, you know, for everybody to chip in,

41:14 Speaker 11: for every talented person, it helps you with your composition.

41:17 Speaker 11: The composition gets ratcheted up.

41:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

41:21 Speaker 11: So it's it's really like it's a dream come true

41:24 Speaker 11: to have a team to work with you on the songs, you.

41:27 Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

41:28 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, and contribute to their considerable talent, you know.

41:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You guys want to play another one?

41:35 Speaker 8: We should, We should play another one. These are so good.

41:37 Speaker 8: What do you guys want to let highway?

41:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hello highway, Hello Highway. This is a song about

41:43 Speaker 1: your travels.

41:44 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, we were doing some care I wrote that

41:47 Speaker 11: stuck in traffic and in.

41:50 Speaker 1: New Jersey, No, No, Worcester.

41:53 Speaker 11: I was going through Worcester because my father lived in

41:55 Speaker 11: North Carolina and going down the stretch, he was dying

41:58 Speaker 11: to Parkinson's.

41:59 Speaker 8: Oh wow.

42:00 Speaker 11: We would do caregiving and everybody in the family would

42:03 Speaker 11: get down there for a couple of weeks. So we

42:04 Speaker 11: were doing a lot of highway time.

42:06 Speaker 1: Yeah.

42:06 Speaker 11: And so one particular time, my sister said called me

42:09 Speaker 11: and said we got to get down there. So as

42:10 Speaker 11: I was going down driving through Worcester, I was like,

42:13 Speaker 11: Hello Highway.

42:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

42:15 Speaker 11: So the next twenty four hours of driving I wrote

42:17 Speaker 11: the rest of the song in my mind. Yeah, and

42:19 Speaker 11: then when I got back to town, I wrote it down,

42:22 Speaker 11: you know. But that's how that one came about.

42:23 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, yeah, let's give this a spand this

42:26 Speaker 8: is Hello Highway, and this is the Murphy Clark band.

42:46 Speaker 3: Hello Highway.

42:49 Speaker 1: Remember me.

42:53 Speaker 3: And the one that I used to be Hello Highway?

43:03 Speaker 3: Can you take me home to a place?

43:09 Speaker 1: He said?

43:10 Speaker 17: I never really know, never really know, never really know.

43:20 Speaker 17: Can you take me home?

43:24 Speaker 5: Hello Highway?

43:32 Speaker 3: I Way, Hello Highway. What's that you say? Can you

43:50 Speaker 3: take me back to a better day?

43:57 Speaker 18: A well writ and got you strong to get up

44:05 Speaker 18: off the floor? Didn't take so long, It didn't.

44:09 Speaker 5: Take so long.

44:13 Speaker 9: Didn't take so long to get up both food, Hello, Highway.

44:28 Speaker 3: Hide.

44:35 Speaker 10: I don't need a place to call my own and

44:39 Speaker 10: I don't.

44:39 Speaker 2: Need a phase to king.

44:42 Speaker 3: I just need a place to lay.

44:45 Speaker 9: It down where I can get some sweet.

44:50 Speaker 2: I don't need a place to go my own.

44:53 Speaker 5: I don't need a place to me.

44:57 Speaker 3: I just need phrase for thing down.

45:01 Speaker 8: I can get some sleep.

45:05 Speaker 17: I could get a sleep high way.

45:16 Speaker 12: Way he Hello Highway, Time to go.

45:48 Speaker 3: No, he'll need to remind me that you told me so.

45:53 Speaker 3: You told me so, Yeah, you told me so. Don't

46:00 Speaker 3: need to remind.

46:05 Speaker 17: Way Hello.

46:29 Speaker 1: Hello, mm hmmm, Hello Highway.

46:43 Speaker 8: It's kind of got lost in that one listening to that.

46:45 Speaker 8: That's really good guy.

46:46 Speaker 1: I want to go on that. Yeah, you want to

46:48 Speaker 1: go paint?

46:49 Speaker 16: I want to go paint.

46:50 Speaker 8: She likes she likes to listen to music while she paints.

46:53 Speaker 1: So cool.

46:53 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's gonna he's gonna put that on.

46:55 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd love to love everybody put us on your playlist.

47:00 Speaker 1: Police. Yeah, and I should say too.

47:01 Speaker 11: You know, we're on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, YouTube. I

47:07 Speaker 11: love my YouTube channel small though it may be, yeah,

47:10 Speaker 11: but you know, we're on all the major platforms.

47:12 Speaker 1: The music is just some crazy videos on YouTube. Yeah,

47:16 Speaker 1: I get all the video duties. Yeah, I'm not a

47:19 Speaker 1: huge fan, but it's kind of fun. Video is a

47:22 Speaker 1: lot of work, is and I'm clunky on it because

47:24 Speaker 1: I'm an audio guy. Sure, sure, it's you know, have

47:27 Speaker 1: fun to do videos. Yeah.

47:29 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a powerful song though.

47:30 Speaker 1: Oh thanks, so good.

47:32 Speaker 8: That is so good If you are just joining us.

47:35 Speaker 8: We've got Brian Murphy and Mike Clark from the Murphy

47:38 Speaker 8: Clark Band here with us in studio and we've been

47:41 Speaker 8: talking a lot and playing some tunes and uh, just

47:44 Speaker 8: just really great. Is is that one of the more

47:46 Speaker 8: recent ones? Or or is that is that one been

47:49 Speaker 8: out for a while?

47:49 Speaker 11: I think it's eight months maybe, Okay. We try to

47:54 Speaker 11: get a song done every two months, okay, and we've

47:56 Speaker 11: been relatively successful with that. That includes you know, the writing,

48:00 Speaker 11: the arranging and then the production of it, and you

48:03 Speaker 11: know we try to get get two months of ourselves,

48:07 Speaker 11: you know. So yeah, that one's probably about four songs

48:11 Speaker 11: back I would say, so that's eight months or six

48:14 Speaker 11: months or something like that.

48:16 Speaker 8: And so that's kind of the schedule. So is there

48:18 Speaker 8: is there an album that these are going to coalesce

48:20 Speaker 8: into or are you just going to keep doing singles?

48:24 Speaker 1: I don't we don't feel like the lost platform.

48:27 Speaker 9: Yeah.

48:28 Speaker 11: I think it's very difficult to get people to listen

48:31 Speaker 11: to a CD anyway, you know, because people have so much,

48:33 Speaker 11: so many entertainment options, I feel like. And another thing too,

48:38 Speaker 11: is when you release a single, you know, you get

48:41 Speaker 11: a bump on all the platforms. So if you're on Spotify,

48:44 Speaker 11: your Apple Music or whatever, you get a little you know,

48:48 Speaker 11: especially if you're a verified artist, you get a bump,

48:52 Speaker 11: so they promote that single for the first week or

48:55 Speaker 11: so like that. So if you release a CD, your

48:58 Speaker 11: CD gets that pump. But if you release a single,

49:01 Speaker 11: you get a bump every time you do the single.

49:04 Speaker 11: So it's just kind of more advantageous. And another thing

49:07 Speaker 11: I like about it, Matt is it allows the artists

49:11 Speaker 11: to work in what I call the honeymoon period with

49:13 Speaker 11: the song. Right, So when you have a new song,

49:15 Speaker 11: everybody's excited about it, everybody's get you know, gives it

49:18 Speaker 11: they're all. But if you do a CD project and

49:21 Speaker 11: you get hung up, the next thing, you know, everything

49:24 Speaker 11: starts to kind of slow down.

49:26 Speaker 1: You tend to rush through things if you'd you know, oh,

49:28 Speaker 1: we got to finish this because we have ten other

49:30 Speaker 1: songs we have to complete, you know, and then you

49:33 Speaker 1: might not out slide or you know, then you cannot.

49:36 Speaker 11: Work on a song for four months and then you

49:38 Speaker 11: kind of come back to it and I, where where

49:40 Speaker 11: were we with this one?

49:41 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And you care about it anymore? Really?

49:43 Speaker 11: Whereas if you do a song and it's that song,

49:46 Speaker 11: you know, And I recommend this to musicians all the times,

49:48 Speaker 11: and they never listen. They always say no, we're doing

49:51 Speaker 11: a CD, and I say, okay, fine. When it gets

49:53 Speaker 11: bogged down, give me a call.

49:54 Speaker 1: Don't tell them that, bro, I lose money.

49:55 Speaker 11: When you tell the singles you'll make the same amount money.

50:01 Speaker 11: Just think how much money I've paid you, dude. Come on,

50:03 Speaker 11: you won't into that.

50:06 Speaker 1: Come on, I don't get me wrong. I would love

50:08 Speaker 1: people to put the Needle on the record and listen

50:10 Speaker 1: to the whole record. I kind of missed that because

50:14 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it. Like I'll listen to like the

50:16 Speaker 1: new David Gilmour record and listen to two tracks then

50:19 Speaker 1: go oh, you know, uh to the wet Sprockett has

50:22 Speaker 1: a new record out of whoever, you know what I mean.

50:25 Speaker 1: So you there's so much to choose from your access.

50:29 Speaker 11: So I kind of look at it like, instead of

50:31 Speaker 11: putting out a CD, is put out a single and

50:34 Speaker 11: hope to get on some playlists. Hope people include it

50:37 Speaker 11: on their favorite playlist or whatever like that.

50:39 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that, yeah, you stay visible to yeah, exactly.

50:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot.

50:44 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, you can do a show and

50:47 Speaker 11: one person might come up and say, do you have

50:49 Speaker 11: a CD for sale? You know, and but most of

50:51 Speaker 11: the time not, you know what I mean, because people

50:54 Speaker 11: don't think of it that way.

50:55 Speaker 1: They don't put ring cars anymore, so you are Yeah,

50:58 Speaker 1: that's true, that's true.

51:00 Speaker 11: I've just kind of moved away from that, and periodically

51:02 Speaker 11: I think, oh, I should put it all together in

51:04 Speaker 11: a CD project, and then I think, you know why, Yeah,

51:08 Speaker 11: you know, yeah, So that's my that's my theory on

51:11 Speaker 11: it anyway.

51:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, listening habits have changed. Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah change.

51:15 Speaker 11: Like I said, what I like about most of it

51:17 Speaker 11: is doing a song, putting your all into it, getting

51:21 Speaker 11: the best mix you can, and then moving on to

51:23 Speaker 11: the next one.

51:23 Speaker 1: Yeah.

51:24 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what I mean it you know, it

51:26 Speaker 11: keeps you writing, it keeps you, you know, working like that,

51:30 Speaker 11: you know.

51:30 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, there's so many different ways now to release

51:32 Speaker 8: music and so many different strategies you should use. And

51:35 Speaker 8: you know that's that's all changed too, yea, and yeah no,

51:39 Speaker 8: it's uh, technology has just changed everything. But but yeah,

51:44 Speaker 8: but it's like, you know, you kind of you do

51:46 Speaker 8: have to kind of feed the machine, feed that algorithm.

51:48 Speaker 4: You know.

51:51 Speaker 11: Really, the CD period was a very short period in

51:54 Speaker 11: musical history, right, I mean you probably remember singles where

51:58 Speaker 11: you get a forty five oh yeah, and that you

52:01 Speaker 11: know what I mean, it was one song, get B

52:04 Speaker 11: side or whatever.

52:06 Speaker 8: I might, I might be good, I might thank you,

52:09 Speaker 8: thank you, im moisturized, I stay hydrated. But yeah, it's

52:17 Speaker 8: some some of the artists we have on the show

52:20 Speaker 8: have kind of recommitted to physical media just because you know,

52:24 Speaker 8: sometimes if you're a fan, it's it's nice to have

52:26 Speaker 8: liner notes and things like that.

52:28 Speaker 1: But miss that. Yeah there with the album cover, Look, that's.

52:31 Speaker 8: The best, like the vinyl the gatefold, you know, and you.

52:34 Speaker 1: Can against mixing art mediums. You know, you have the

52:38 Speaker 1: music and you have the art that was exactly record

52:41 Speaker 1: cover exactly.

52:43 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, well, gentlemen, so that the time goes quickly.

52:47 Speaker 8: We will do this again in the future, though, I

52:49 Speaker 8: would love to come back.

52:50 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you guys got stories man, Yeah yeah, yeah.

52:54 Speaker 8: And especially too as you're releasing new music, because you know,

52:57 Speaker 8: you keep putting out new stuff. So yeah, so that

53:00 Speaker 8: that's an easy excuse to get you back on. But

53:03 Speaker 8: in the meantime, we should close our segment with one

53:05 Speaker 8: more track. What would you guys like to? Uh?

53:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do only you, only you, only you, man.

53:10 Speaker 11: And this is the one that came before go on

53:12 Speaker 11: and break it's only.

53:14 Speaker 8: You, okay. Anything we should know about.

53:16 Speaker 11: This this one I don't remember.

53:19 Speaker 1: Uh, this is a track we revisited though, okay, yeah,

53:23 Speaker 1: because from a while ago. Okay, we did it back

53:26 Speaker 1: in the day.

53:27 Speaker 11: I don't remember the specifics are right in this one though,

53:29 Speaker 11: in particular, you know, it's.

53:30 Speaker 1: Just okay, you know I can't a dream? Yeah yeah,

53:34 Speaker 1: that's poetic. Yeah right.

53:39 Speaker 8: And before we spend this anything, what shoul our listeners

53:42 Speaker 8: know about how to find you guys online. What's the

53:43 Speaker 8: best place to go to keep up with everything? The

53:45 Speaker 8: Murphy Clark.

53:46 Speaker 1: We have a Facebook. I run it.

53:47 Speaker 11: So if you think I suck at Facebook, you're right.

53:50 Speaker 11: So I do this social media so you'll you'll uh,

53:54 Speaker 11: you'll know that.

53:54 Speaker 8: Yeah.

53:55 Speaker 1: The channel, the YouTube channels great though. Yeah, there's a

53:58 Speaker 1: lot of stuff this live videos on there. And okay,

54:01 Speaker 1: you know it's Murphy Clark.

54:03 Speaker 11: Just if you're te in Murphy Clark, it'll come up, okay, okay.

54:06 Speaker 11: And we appreciate anybody adding adding a song to their

54:10 Speaker 11: their favorite playlist or whatever.

54:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, you appreciate it.

54:12 Speaker 11: And if if somebody writes something on YouTube, we see.

54:15 Speaker 1: It, it's gonna paint to yes she is, Yeah, yes

54:19 Speaker 1: she is. And if anyone wants to dance naked, that's

54:22 Speaker 1: fine too.

54:23 Speaker 8: You can do that, you know, absolutely, not here. Not here,

54:26 Speaker 8: We can't on that part. The cameras are on, and

54:29 Speaker 8: I don't think we're zoned for it.

54:31 Speaker 1: Yeah I should. I should have done some sit ups

54:33 Speaker 1: or something.

54:35 Speaker 11: As far it's gonna appear naked, I look pretty good

54:39 Speaker 11: in the park if you give me a chance.

54:44 Speaker 8: Well, like I said, we will have you back, so we'll.

54:47 Speaker 11: Thanks for everything and thank you for your commitment.

54:50 Speaker 1: Everyone.

54:50 Speaker 11: You know, we really appreciate that, like thank you, just

54:53 Speaker 11: like Kate over it, you know the listening room. The

54:57 Speaker 11: dedication and devotion that people have is so importan and

55:00 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, it means a lot to us.

55:02 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean no, we love it, you know,

55:04 Speaker 8: Jenny and I love it.

55:05 Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

55:05 Speaker 8: J absolutely absolutely so we will. We'll close out the

55:09 Speaker 8: segment with only You Man. That's the title this track,

55:12 Speaker 8: Only you Oh, it's just only you Okay. I was

55:14 Speaker 8: sure because it says only you Man on here, but

55:16 Speaker 8: it says only you Man mixed, so I don't know

55:18 Speaker 8: if it was the band.

55:19 Speaker 1: From my studio. I need to name stuff what I

55:22 Speaker 1: want to name it. Yeah, that's not the name of

55:24 Speaker 1: the song.

55:25 Speaker 8: It's smelled.

55:26 Speaker 1: It's just just from my file.

55:28 Speaker 8: I got I gotcha, I gotcha, all right. And if

55:32 Speaker 8: you are listening live on Saturday morning, Aaron Bilideo is

55:35 Speaker 8: coming up next in the third hour, so stick around

55:37 Speaker 8: for that. He's gonna play live. But guys, thank you again.

55:39 Speaker 8: Brian Murphy and Mike Clark from the Murphy Clark Band

55:42 Speaker 8: and here. It is only you.

56:00 Speaker 5: It's all right.

56:04 Speaker 2: When you're suffer, It's all right.

56:12 Speaker 9: When you cry, it's I'll pick you ever, I thank you.

56:19 Speaker 9: Should you be flop down, let me coming down.

56:23 Speaker 12: I'll dry yours on.

56:30 Speaker 7: Man only, man only, like myself, much like myself, bus

56:44 Speaker 7: like myself.

56:45 Speaker 3: Much like myself.

56:47 Speaker 5: I'll much like me.

56:52 Speaker 3: In the night.

56:55 Speaker 9: When your hog is broken up, a.

57:04 Speaker 3: Good sound mass.

57:08 Speaker 8: Too, you muture to seeking.

57:14 Speaker 3: Said, I will not dritcause your own thing.

57:24 Speaker 5: On you.

57:28 Speaker 19: Only like myself, much like myself, much like myself, uns

57:38 Speaker 19: like myself, I'm much like me.

58:00 Speaker 3: It's all right when you suffer.

58:08 Speaker 5: It's all.

58:10 Speaker 3: Right when you come south you have you should be, for.

58:23 Speaker 14: Thou will not puticide's because you're.

58:30 Speaker 2: Man only, man.

58:36 Speaker 5: Only only, only.

58:48 Speaker 13: Only, but like theself, sellst like myself myself no stared.

59:02 Speaker 11: Not light and not start

59:08 Speaker 8: Real