Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-23-23

Two. Wellcome everybody, here we go. It is that time again,

Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H

ninety five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. A little

humid out there, but it is glorious. It's a bright sunny day.

Although now that I'm looking this, our clouds moving in. But maybe we'll

get a quick storm. Who knows, who knows. But yes, we

are of course at the studios of WMH ninety five point three and of course

on Comcast ninety seven if you are in Manchester, and hello to all of

our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to

my website Matt Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media

links, contact info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Friday,

June twenty three, twenty twenty three. Friday is my favorite day of

the week here at WMNH. It's my long day because I get to do

double duty and I love it. Here of course until six pm for this

show, and then I'm back tonight from eight to eleven pm for Retro Spectrum

Radio with Paul ec Of course I'm one of Paul's co hosts on that show

along with DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry, and of course Queen

City Cabinetry being one of our great sponsors here at WMNH, but also Mike

joins us from Queen City Cabinetry Friday nights for Retrospectrum Radio. So we have

a great time. And this week's show I'm excited about it is part two

of Original Demos of Popular Songs, where Paul will be featuring the original demo

versions of some of the songs that you've probably heard many times over the course

of your lifetime, but have you heard the original version that was demo recording

in its infancy if you will, in its development, and so tonight is

part two of that. I really loved last week's last week's show. I

was looking forward to it and it did not let me down. Again.

If you were listening to the last week's show, whether live or if you

happen to catch the replay or listen to the podcast, I think everybody in

the room was an agreement about the original demo version of Girls on Film by

Duran. Duran just absolutely stupendous. Does anyone say that word anymore? I

can't remember the last time I actually heard somebody used the word stupendous, but

I will use it here. I think it is an apt superlative that I've

presented. It's just so good. The the demo version, it had a

lot of guitar in it, which of course got did not make it into

the final mix in the studio. But yeah, just really cool. So

I'm looking forward tonight. The other really interesting thing that just kind of stands

out in my mind about last week's show was Paul also played And of course

this I had already heard as a as a Kiss fan, the original demo

version of the Kiss song God of Thunder, and on the demo version because

it was actually written by Paul Stanley, even though Gene Simmons is the one

who sings the song and they still do that in their live set today.

But but on the original demo version, it's faster and it's Paul Stanley singing

it, and it's just it's actually kind of funny. It might not be

funny if you don't know the original, or if you're just not a Kiss

fan, but if you know the original and then you hear the Paul Stanley

demo. It's pretty funny. We were we were having a good hearty chuckle

over it. Anyway, I have no idea what the demos are that Paul

plans to feature tonight, but I very very much look forward to to tonight's

program, and I assume Granted state of Mind is still going to be running

immediately after this show. I did hear on the replay of the Morning Show,

of course, the Morning Show with Peter White, which is weekdays from

seven to nine am here at WMNH with a replay from two to four pm.

Right before this program, I heard Peter mentioning that Granted State of Mind

is actually moving to Thursdays at nine pm. It's been a well, it's

been Fridays at six pm for as long as I've been here, but apparently

it is moving to a new, a new day and time. Check your

local listings. But I assume there's still I assume there's still an episode airing

tonight immediately after this program. So of course, during the warm half of

the year, Rob as a Veto and PAULI Stone they record all the shows

out at Pembroke City Limits and then they do a great job. I assume

they'll be once the weather gets cold again, they'll will be back in the

studio, but now on Thursday nights apparently, So congratulations to them. And

let's see what else is going on. Oh, just a couple other quick

things to our amazing sponsor, the Hopknot right across the street at one thousand

Elm Street. They have an event going on tonight tonight, and I do

enjoy saying this. I think it's fun. Big gay bingo happening tonight at

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So and there is an explanation here. And by the way, I hope,

I hope Governor rond de Santas and Florida is not around here campaigning right

now. He'll be very upset at this. You know, in Florida they

think that if you just pretend that there aren't people who are different than you,

than they don't actually exist. I think that's the theory. But anyway,

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uh. We'll get going at nine pm, so get there early to grab

a good seat. The game is free to play, but we'd love it

if you made a five dollar donation uh to uh m M v APNH,

a local organization that helps people living with HIV AIDS maintain a high quality of

life through education, support and empowerment. And so that's a great cause.

We had to talk about that a little bit on the show yesterday too.

Um. We actually with our friend EAZYG. He called them to do his

entertainment report. But we um we had a surprisingly um I shouldn't say surprisingly,

but uh sometimes sometimes EAZYG he'll uh, he'll he'll he'll surprise you.

Um. We had a I thought a pretty good discussion, not an extensive

one, but we did discuss how you know, HIV and AIDS is still

very much with us. You don't hear about it nearly as much, so

people forget because we do live in an era where, thanks to medical technology,

you can be HIV positive and still live a full lifespan if you get

on the right medications and so forth. Of course, you have to be

able to get on the right medications, which kind of ties into another thing

that we often discuss on the show, which is access to healthcare and the

importance of that and being able to get the healthcare that you need, and

you know on how people fall through the cracks in America, which is unacceptable.

But but you know, the medications are there to help you if you

are HIV positive, but that doesn't mean you can necessarily get access to them,

and you know, and that's life or death. So so this is

very important. So it's for a great cause, Big gay Bingo tonight at

the hop Knot And of course you know it's Pride month, June Pride month,

so very appropriate for that as well, and they do a lot of

great things at the hop Knot, so very proud to have them as a

sponsor. Also going on tonight, by the way, Dj Reckless, this

is going to be in the main room at Soho Djane I think he said

that starts at nine pm or somewhere between nine and ten pm. And uh,

speaking of Rob as a veto, he's got a band I forget who

it is, but he's got somebody performing tonight, so I assume they're going

to be recording Granted State of Mind tonight at Pembroke City Limits, So if

you're up up that way, you can stop in there check it out.

So lots going on, always, always lots going on. And I'm sure

there's many more things I could mention. Oh, actually, here's another thing

I could mention. Trudy from The Hop Knot will be here with us on

Monday. She hasn't been on the show in a long time, so that

will be that will be very very cool. We've got a lot to get

to today. I don't have any guests booked, but we have a lot

to get to. There's a lot that I want to cover today, so

that that kind of works out. Jenny's been doing a great job with the

booking, so most days we have guests. We have guests almost every day,

but it is nice to have a day here and there where we don't

have any guests and I can kind of get up, get caught up with

all of these news stories that have been sort of piling up during the week

that we just haven't had time to get to. But if you'd like to

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But I do want to take a moment say hello everybody in the Facebook

live chat. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in the chat room and says

happy Friday, everyone, A happy Friday. Mike Scott Robinson in the chat

room says good afternoon, my fellow Connerton Nights. I always thought that the

State rep elect was a little hanky. After today, I guess we were

all right about the person. Yes and st is speaking in code because the

particular individual who is in yet again for the I don't know how many times

it is now they are in legal trouble, and the legal jeopardy in this

particular instance is on a scale that I don't think we'll be hearing from that

person for a while. But it's someone we don't for reasons that. You

know, if you're a long time listener, you might have an idea,

but we don't talk about this individual on the show anymore. So I'm not

going to mention their name. But but if you are local in the area

and you pay attention, you can go to WMUAR dot com, for example

channel nine, look at the news and you'll immediately see reference to what I'm

referring to and the particular individual and a partner of that individual who are in

terrible trouble for they are alleged to have done something really disgusting and disturbing.

And I will leave that at that. We won't go any further with it.

But but yeah, that's what's going on. I had last night when

the news broke, when Tony Shanella broke the news on Patch and Nashua,

I had multiple people send me the story, like you know, Matt,

Look who's in trouble? Uh? Pat Mills from the bonfire. We'll give

the bonfire a plug, great place. Pat was the first one on Facebook

to message me a link to the story, and then uh, and then

several other people did as well. And it's like, yep, yep,

I'm I uh yeah, I don't want to I don't want to say exactly

what I'm thinking, but you will just say. Um, let's just say

I I had a feeling we'd see this person's name in the news again,

because it always, it always happens, and every time it's something a little

bit worse than the previous time. But anyway, best of luck. Isaac

Banks joins us in the Facebook live chat, of course, all the way

from Greensboro, North Carolina. Isaacs says, good afternoon, hashtag Matt.

Today is my mom's birthday. Her name is SHELITHA Banks from Greensboro, North

Carolina. She's aged seventy. Good afternoon, hashtag Jenny. Well, you

know I saw on a coffee mug once at life begins at seventy. I'm

a little skeptical about that, but you know, it's good to be positive

and optimistic. Scott Robinson said in the chat room. If you don't know

what I'm referring to, look up wmure about the childcare establishment. Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty bad, pretty bad. Isaac Banks says N Saturn.

We'll be watching the retro Spectrum Radio with PAULI c on Facebook Live. Excellent,

excellent. We do love to see n. Saturn in there. Eric

Street joins us in the chat room and says, happy Friday. Just saw

that mister Crabs article. Yes, just incredible, isn't it? All right?

Let me give the studio line again, and then I want to get

into something six three two five six seven six zo three two five six seven,

Um, something I've been wanting to get to on the program. And

again it's it's just it's been busy. But um, this uh ongoing story

involving the Supreme Court. But in getting into this about the Supreme Court,

and I have kind of an unpopular I don't want to say, an unpopular

opinion necessarily. Oh, hello to Tony Petrello, who's in the Facebook live

chat and says, good afternoon, Matt, Good afternoon, Tony. Nice

to see you in there. Oh and also Texas Mike just joined us as

well. And says good afternoon. Yeehah, Texas Mike. Um, I

want to talk a little bit about the Supreme Court. But this doesn't relay

or relate I should say directly to I know right now there's a lot of

talk in the media about it's one year. Hard to believe it's been a

year. Uh, it's um the one year anniversary of the overturning of Roe

v. Wade and the Dab's decision. But that's that's not what I want

to focus on with this. But the thing that I'm going to say that's

a little unpopular is and I want to get I'd really like to get some

listener feedback on this, because it's just something you don't hear. I have

a perspective on this that you just don't really hear in mainstream media. But

I have a suspicion I can't be the only one who has had this particular

thought regarding the Supreme Court, even though I don't hear anyone else actually saying

what I'm what I'm going to say in a moment. But but just to

kind of get us going in the right direction and then we'll we'll get into

it. Um, there's a story Usnews dot Com as a story up pressure

mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a code of ethics. A key

senator with oversight of the Judiciary Committee has called for ethics reform after he had

another bombshell report questioning the Justice's ability to self police. So, if you

haven't been following this, what this is about is and it it really started.

Uh, she's must have been a couple of months ago. Now,

Apparently Justice Clarence Thomas h you know, he goes on trips and eats at

fancy restaurants and so forth, on the dime of Harlan Crowe, who is

a billionaire Republican donor, and so forth. And uh and wasn't you know,

wasn't declaring that, you know, that he was accepting these lavish trips

and so forth. And then another story just broke that m. Samuel Alito

had been doing something similar. And the Supreme Court is really pretty autonomous in

terms of ethics. Now, the other two branches of govern because obviously we

have three branches, the executive, the legislative, and the judicial executive of

course being the Presidency, and the legislative being Congress, and the judicial branch,

which is Supreme Court. But of the three branches, the Supreme Court

enjoys tremendous autonomy. The other two branches don't really make rules for the Supreme

Court. They confirm justices who then get a lifetime appointment who cannot be removed

unless impeached. I think there is one example in American history of a Supreme

Court justice being impeached. I think I'm a little sketchy on the details of

that, but and not recently, of course, not in any of our

lifetimes, long time ago. But I'm not sure if they were actually impeached,

or if they were going to be impeached and they resigned. I forget

now I should look that up. But so the Supreme Court enjoys tremendous autonomy,

and they have to kind of self police, or in theory, they

would have to self police if there were if they were forced to, which

they or not. So they're really kind of on their own. So,

you know, if someone wants to say, you're a Supreme Court justice and

you want to accept lavish trips and other kinds of social events, if you

want to accept those gifts or those opportunities, oh hello to j fed in

the chat room, if you want to accept that, even even if you

might be presiding over a case that in some ways might have an effect over

the billionaire who's spending all this money on you or or or maybe you might

even as I believe is in the case of Justice Samuel Alito, and we

might look at look at that a little bit more closely, because he sort

of did a pre bottle to this pro publica breaking the story. It's very

it's actually pretty strange, but I guess he kind of panicked and wanted to

get out ahead of it. But I think in his case he was he

had to rule on a case that directly involved, or at least affected in

some some direct manner. Uh, the billionaire who was paying for him to

do to do, go wherever, go on trips, go on vacations,

on a private jet, whatever it is. UM apparently if you go back

to um antonin Scalia, who died while I think on a on a hunting

trip or a golf expedition or something. Uh, he died while on vacation.

But with with one of these billionaires who UM spends money to, you

know, I mean, let's be honest, why if if you're going to

if you're a billionaire and you're going to uh, spend a lot of money

on somebody like a Supreme Court justice or any other type of politician. And

by the way, yes I said that intentionally, any other type of politician.

So you're not supposed to say that. There's certain things that in polite

company. And in this case, when I say polite company, what I

really mean is when you're having a political discussion, you're not supposed to refer

to Supreme Court justices as politicians. There, Supreme Court justices, they're above

politics. Right. I'll have something to say about that, and it's something

that you know, people don't like to don't like to hear. But we'll

come back to that. But if you're if you're spending money on a politician,

whether they be a president or a senator or a congressman or a Supreme

Court justice, you're not doing it because you want to be kind and generous.

You're not doing it because you want to have a friend who wears a

black robe and you think that'll be really cool. You're doing it because you

want something. Oh hello to a Melanie A law liberty from the grace State

of Vermont, who joins us in the chat. You're doing it because you

want something. It's a business expense, it is the cost of doing business,

and it appeals to well. It works for a couple of reasons.

One is I almost hate to almost hate to say it, because it's such

an old and somewhat tired cliche. But the reason it withstands the test of

time it is repeated so much, is because it is so incredibly true.

Is that absolute power corrupts absolutely And but the other thing is so, you

know, so regardless of what someone's position is, you know, it's it's

easy to influence people by buying them stuff. But then again, it's easy

to do that anyway, right, even if you're not a billionaire, and

even if you're not dealing with a Supreme Court justice or a senator or a

congressman or a president or a presidential candidate or whomever. You know, if

you if you spend money on people, they tend to like you more.

If you do favors for people, they tend to like you more. And

that's a way that you can gain influence with people. There's a book Dale

Carnegie, how to Win friends and influence people. This it's human nature.

It doesn't only apply to the elite spending money on well the elite. While

this is all going on, what I see and I hear in the media,

there's a lot of pearl clutching about, well, how could this be?

Something has to be done because there's no one too. There's no code

of ethics there there isn't There are some rules apparently about what these justices are

supposed to disclose in terms of what is spent on them. There's rules,

but apparently there's no laws. You know, there's guidelines, but uh,

but nothing firm. Uh, you know, and they can be selective about

it, like I think in the in the case of Clarence Thomas, I

was reading about there was there was something he disclosed because someone had bought him

a gift or something, and and he felt that, Um, he thought

it would look bad if he didn't disclose it. So he disclosed it.

But then, um, and it was something there was only a few thousand

dollars, but but he felt it. You know, it would be the

appropriate thing would be to disclose that. But then when Harlan Crow comes along

and spends uh exponentially more money on vacations, and rides on a private jet

for Justice Thomas. Apparently he felt no, yeah, no no qualms or

compunctions about that. I guess he must have thought, well, he's he's

not trying to get something from him, he's just being a nice guy.

Um. But because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely, I don't know

how it would even be possible to be in that position and not be for

sale to some extent, right, Scott Robinson in the chat says, if

anyone wants to give me some cash, my vote can be bought. Now.

I don't want anyone to misunderstand what I'm saying here when I say,

well, if you're in that position and you have so much autonomy, because

again, the judicial branch as much more autonomy than the legislative or the executive

branches. I mean, those branches have you know, they have laws,

and you know there are ethics laws and campaign finance laws, and there's of

course a million ways around all of these laws, and they are circumvented all

the time, but there are laws in place. But when you're a Supreme

Court justice, you really, you know, you're on your own. You

get to decide for yourself what you think is worth disclosing, or you know,

if you want to just be willfully obtuse and say, I don't know

why this billionaire is spending all this money on me. I guess he's just

a nice guy wants me to be his friend. I'm flattered. You know.

You can do that. You have the freedom to do that. There's

no one to tell you you can't. Now the thing that, again,

I'm not I'm not excusing any of that, even though I do believe there's

a high degree of just basic human nature involved here. I don't want anyone

to misunderstand. But the thing that I would say is, and this is

the part that's kind of unpopular that you don't hear people in mainstream media say.

The reason part of why people are so upset and so shocked by all

of this is because we are taught in this country from a young age.

When you first learn when you're a kid. Think about when you were a

kid and you first are learning about civics in school, and you're learning about

the three branches of government, and you learn about the Supreme Court, and

we are taught that the Supreme Court these are lifetime appointments and the Supreme Court

is above it all. Not above the law, certainly. I mean they

rule on the law. But but they're above politics. You know. Now,

the legislative branch and the executive branch, those are elected. Those people

are elected. They are accountable directly to the voters. But the Supreme Court,

oh my goodness, the judicial branch of the Supreme Court, it's it's,

it's it's. It's on this pedestal. And they are just above it

all. And that's why they're lifetime appointments. And they go and they do

their job, and and uh, you just you have to trust them.

That's why there's no code of ethics. They don't need a code of ethics.

They're above it all. They're beyond politics after all. How it's not

like you can bribe them, right, you can bribe a senator, you

can bribe a candidate. How would you bribe a Supreme Court justice. They're

already in the job and it's a lifetime appointment. They don't need ethics.

They're above it all. We're sort of taught that that that they're on that

pedestal, that they're in their own sort of category, and they are exalted.

And I have to tell you, and this is the part that's going

to be a little unpopular but for whatever reason. And I'd be curiously get

some feedback if there's anyone else who feels the way that I do, because

the narrative in the media right now is, well, Chief Justice Sean Roberts

has to do something because apparently there are some problems. But it's but we're

also shocked that there's problems because who would ever expect who would ever expect this

kind of thing? Who would ever expect Harlan Crowe spending all this money on

Clarence Thomas. You would never you would never even expect that. Right,

it's the Supreme Court. Listen, this whole idea of the Supreme Court being

on that pedestal, I can honestly say, and I became I always say

I became interested in politics at an unhealthily young age. I have not,

for a day in my life, ever bought into that idea. I have

always looked at the three branches of government. You know, we have three

coequal branches, as we're taught, right, I've always looked at all three

of those branches as being political. Not well, you have two branches that

are highly political because you have people elected to those branches, and then you

have this other branch that is in its own world right and and and it's

it's it's on a pedestal. I've never bought into that. I have always

looked at the three branches as being absolutely political. And I've always looked at

Supreme Court justices as being politicians, just like senators, just like congressmen,

just like the president, just like the vice president, just like the mayor

in your city, just like anybody. Just like your local sheriff who you

elect. If you some places, the sheriff is appointed, some elected,

Pick any example you want. I have never, for a day in my

life, viewed Supreme Court justices as any different. I get it, they're

not elected. They're appointed, but they're still voted on by a committee.

And they don't have to get reelected because they're not elected to begin with.

It's a lifetime appointment. So there are differences, obviously, but they're still

politicians. Why do you think we have liberal justices and conservative justices. Look

at the process they have to go through to get onto the Supreme Court,

once they've been nominated, the process they have to go through to be confirmed.

It's extraordinarily politicized. Of course it is, because it's all political.

I was agast. Now, again, this is not about the Dobb's decision

overturning Roe v. Wade, but I'm going to bring that in as an

example of something that, again, the narrative in the media is so far

removed from how I've ever looked at this. It's actually bizarre to me,

at least in the mainstream media. I'm sure somewhere on some podcast somewhere that

somebody's saying all the same things I'm saying. But in the mainstream media,

when Roe v. Wade was overturned, I heard a lot of things about

how well the Supreme Court. You know, yes, you have judges who

you know are going to rule one way or the other, but it's become

totally politicized. Now. I actually heard, I don't remember who it was,

I heard a political analyst on CNN at the time actually say, well,

for the first time, for the first time in our history, we

have instead of judges wearing black robes, it's like we have judges wearing some

are wearing red robes and some are wearing blue robes. And I just was

stunned. First of all do people. Again, the individual, whoever they

were, I'm sure they were old enough to remember a certain Supreme Court case

in the year two thousand called Bush v. Gore. Some of you might

remember that, you young uns might not, but yeah, Bush v.

Gore, where the Supreme Court ultimately decided. There's different ways you can look

at it. I would say they decided who the next president of the United

States would be, and that was so political, so politicized in terms of

how Americans perceived it. They actually and I'd never seen this before, and

I'm not sure I've seen this since when they announced, when the Supreme Court

announced their decision in favor of Bush, effectively giving the election to Bush.

Again, we can quibble over the you know, that's my characterization. You

know, you'll you'll hear people say while Bush was selected, not elected,

selected by the Supreme Court. That's my characterization. You might disagree with it.

That's fine. I don't want to get bogged down in that. I

was angry at the time. Looking back, I'm still a little angry.

Even my dad said to me, And my dad's a conservative, but back

then I think he was still a Democrat, and I remember him saying to

me, Yeah, Maddie, it's like the Supreme Court. They just decided,

Oh no, you don't have to count those votes in Florida. Never

mind, We're good. But I would hear all the same things. Then

people have short memories for this stuff, I guess, but I would.

I would hear all these things in and again it was so politicized. They

actually sent Clarence speaking of Clarence Thomas, when they announced a decision, they

sent Clarence Thomas out to talk to the media. And I don't think it

was like an official press conference, but I think he just came out because

there was a lot of media. I'm trying to I can kind of mentally

picture it, but I don't think he was standing at a podium or anything.

But I think it was sort of informal. But I think he came

out. He actually came out of chambers to address the media and just said

politics played no role in our decision. I don't think he talked for very

long. He from what I understand over the years, he doesn't even really

talk that much in court. He doesn't ask a lot of questions. That's

not a reflection on how he does his job or on him, He just

you know, he just doesn't ask a lot of questions. It's fairly unusual.

But he actually came out and talked to the media and tried to reassure

everybody. Politics politics, I did not play any role in this. See

I am still angry about it because I suddenly am having trouble speaking. But

um, so none of this is new. And when you look at major

cases, as we're analyzing cases that are up before the Supreme Court, inevitably

we have conversations about, well, you know, what are the liberal justices

gonna how are they going to vote? How are the conservative justice justice is

going to vote? So none of this is new. So I just say

all that to say, and again it's not something you say in polite company.

When you're having a political conversation, there is an expectation that we're all

supposed to go, Oh my goodness, it's so much worse than I ever

imagined, with um, Harlan Crowe spending all this money on Justice Thomas for

example, or this this new story that's broken with Alito. I never I

never imagined this was going on. Um maybe I'm more cynical than the average

person on this stuff. You know because politics. Obviously I love politics,

but I'm also very cynical about politics. That might sound strange. How can

you love something but also be very cynical about it? But you know,

I'm not a sports fan, but I'm sure a lot of sports fans can

relate to that. You know, like if you have a team that you

love, but you're also very cynical about them. I've heard sports fans do

that. Oh I love such and such a team, but ah, they

never win. They're gonna have another bad season. They're gonna break my heart

again. I just know it. So it's certainly as possible. So I

love politics, but I'm very cynical about it. I've always been very cynical

about the Supreme Court. I don't see them as any different. I understand

the process of how they get there is different. Obviously, they're not elected

in an open election. They're they're nominated and then confirmed or not confirmed in

rare ca like like Bork. Remember Bork. But none of this is shocking

to me. Now I'm going to say something you're really not supposed to say

in polite company when you're having a political conversation. Not only am I not

shocked, about any of this going on, but I don't believe there's any

appetite within the court itself to do anything about it. Let me be very

specific, and again, I'd be curious to get some listener feedback on this,

because I can't be the only one who feels this way. Oh,

Scott Robinson in the shot says, I love the Hulkster, but I'm mad

he's not coming back. Cynical even yes, well, well he does have

quite a few back surgeries and he's seventy. But but you'll always be a

hulkamaniac, Scott, and I respect that. So again, I look at

this story from US news dot com. Pressure mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts

to adopt a code of ethics. Okay, now that brings me to the

other part of this, And this is where I'm gonna say something that again,

nobody in the mainstream media says this, but I'll say it because the

narrative in the in the mainstream media is Justice John Roberts. Chief Justice John

Roberts, he must be very troubled by all of this. He must be

very troubled by the public's lack of confidence, lack of trust in the Supreme

Court. And then it goes back to that, you know, they're exalted

because then you get into because you know, the general public, they must

be. So they must be so bothered by all of this because the one

branch of government they thought they could trust, you know, and turns out

there's ethics problems there too, just like you see in the other branches.

So there must be pressure. Justice John Roberts must be feeling the pressure.

Here's what I'm gonna say about that. I'm sorry, I don't believe that

Chief Justice John Roberts gives a damn about any of it. I don't And

I'll say this, why would he? Now this goes to this goes I

know, I'm really getting cynical here, but this goes to a broader concept

that we talk about on the show. You know, we talk about on

the show, especially lately, while you know, we talk about the some

people like to especially lately it's in fashion to talk about a two tiered criminal

justice system where I guess, you know, we hold we hold Donald Trump

to one standard, which is so unfair, and everybody else to a different

standard, or however you want to twist it, right, But the truth

is, yes, we do have a two tiered criminal justice system in this

country. You have the wealthy, the elite, the well connected, the

powerful. They have a different standard than the rest of us, than the

middle class, than the poor. Right, that's what is really two standards

of government, I mean two standards of criminal us. It's the way most

people think about it. Right. So the elite, they protect themselves,

They to a large degree police themselves. They to a large degree escape accountability,

and they generally only care about accountability. And when I say the elite,

I mean billionaires, I mean or millionaires, I mean politicians, I

mean you know, whoever has a lot of power, you know, the

elite, you know what I mean, they care about accountability. And as

much as they have to look like they're caring about accountability, they only care

about as much accountability as they have to. Beyond that, they don't care.

Because if they actually did care, then none of this would be a

problem to begin with. But they don't. So I see all this in

the media. Now, Oh, first you had the story about Harlan Crowe

spending all this money on Clarence Thomas. Now you've got this story about Samuel

Samuel Elito. Justice John Roberts. Chief Justice John Roberts, he must be

really troubled by all of this. I don't think he gives a damn.

I think he's going to look I'm like, I'm like a twelve on the

one to ten cynicism meter today, I realize, but I don't think he

gives a damn about any of it. But he will. He will look

like he will do the bare minimum, which is all you can expect from

him. He will do and say the bare minimum to try to make it

look like he does. But at the end of the day, why would

he Why would any of them? Why would any of them? Because they

are the elite. You don't get much more elite than a Supreme Court justice.

I'm not saying they're all rich. I don't know how much money they

make, but then again, who needs Who needs a big salary when you've

got billionaires spending a whole lot of money on you, You know, but

you don't get much more elite than that. They don't care. I don't

believe for a second Justice John Roberts cares. Sorry I keep Chief Justice John

Roberts, I don't believe he cares. Why would he? Are you going

to tell me that he had no idea that Harlan Crowe was spending money on

Clarence Thomas. Are you going to tell me that he had no idea that

whoever this other person, I don't remember that they were spending money on Samuel

Alito. Are you going to tell me that it's completely outside the realm of

possibility. I'm not making an accusation, I'm not inferring anything. I'm just

saying, just throwing it out there. Are you going to tell me that

it is completely out side the realm of possibility that somebody right now it's paying

for a very lavish vacation for Chief Justice John Roberts? Why not? This

is how the elite operate. There is no accountability unless there has to be.

And so far Chief Justice John Roberts has been pretty quiet, hasn't He

hasn't said much. Why should he? Why would he? It's the Supreme

Court again. You don't get much more elite than that, and I mean,

hell you can. You can wipe out fifty years of precedent with one

court decision, right. You don't get much more elite and powerful than the

Supreme Court. That's the upper echelon of the upper echelon, right, all

that power, I don't know. And again, please don't misunderstand. I'm

not making excuses or justifications. I'm just saying I don't know human nature being

what it is. I don't know if it's even psychologically possible for any normal

person at that level of elitism to even make themselves care about accountability, about

ethics and so on. I don't know if the human brain can even manage

that. I don't know, but I don't expect that from these people.

Maybe maybe Katangi Brown Jackson is different because she's still kind of the new kid.

You know. Maybe I don't know. I haven't heard anything bad.

But then again, the Samuel Alito thing goes back to two thousand and eight.

We're just hearing about it now. You know, they don't care.

They don't care. Nobody's apologizing for anything. Oh, I said Samuel Alito.

He did that pre battle, so he seemed to get a little nervous.

But he's like seventy years old. He does. Do you think he

actually cares now? And I guarantee you John Roberts doesn't care. Could be

wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong. Scott Robinson

in the Chareman says, old Trump thing is very true. It just depends

on how you feel about him. That's why he's so polarizing. Let's look

at this. Wow, we're already almost at the top of the art,

but let's look at this so again. This is from Usnews dot Com.

Pressure mounts on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a code of ethics. It

says here and I didn't preread this, so I'll be learning too. This

just went up today, I think. Actually this one up yesterday, but

still pretty fresh. Pressure is mounting on Chief Justice John Roberts to adopt a

code of ethics for the Supreme Court in the wake of yet another revelation of

a justice not disclosing a luxury trip paid for by a billionaire GOP donor with

business before the court. Senator Dick Durbin, chairman of the Judiciary Committee,

told MSNBC quote, there's one person who could end it before the sun sets

today, and that's Chief Justice John Roberts. It's time for him to step

up and announce there will be a code of ethics for the Supreme Court and

that the disclosure laws will apply and they will follow at least the same rules

as every other federal judge in America, not doing so as really at the

expense of the reputation of the Court Une. By the way, that's an

important point that he alludes to. There, any other federal judge, you

do have a code of ethics. Code of ethics is a pretty standard thing.

Oh, but the Supreme Court. Remember we're taught, we're taught when

we're children, when we first learned about civic in school as children were taught.

Oh, the Supreme Court, that's different. That's different. Those Supreme

Court justices, they're they're different. You can't you can't put any chains on

them there. It's a Supreme Court. Anybody lower than the Supreme Court,

who's a federal judge, Yeah, they have ethics rules. Durban's remarks follow

a bombshell report from Pro Publica that Conservative Justice Samuel Alito flew with billionaire Paul

Singer on his private jet to a remote fishing and hunting lodge in Alaska,

a luxury trip that went unreported in financial disclosure forms, despite the fact that

Singer had multiple orders of business before the Court. One of those cases,

Singer versus Argentina, in which Aldo ruled in Singer's favor with the majority of

the court, ensured a two point four billion dollars windfall for Singer's company.

Now, let's think about that for a minute. Now. Oh, hello,

by the way, to our Chris h from Edgewise, who's in the

Facebook life chat. Let's think about that for a minute. Now. We

don't know, We can't know. We cannot prove, No one can that

Aledo would not have ruled in Singer's favor regardless, right, We can't know

that, So we can't know that that's the reason that because Singer took him

on this luxury trip on a private jet to a remote fishing and hunting lodge

in Alaska. We can't know that that's the reason Alito ruled that he did.

And I'm open to the possibility that it's not that Aldo would have ruled

that way anyway he might have. He might have, but think about either

well, well, let me just put it this way, the arrogance of

Samuel Alito to not care how it looked, unless you just assume no one

would ever find out. But I'm sure at the very least the other justices

had to know. I mean, I've always heard, you know, the

Supreme Court justices, even even the ones who you know, are very different,

very polarized politically, that you know, it's very congenial, it's very

you know, sort of it's a fraternity. It's a very elite club.

It's only nine of them. It's a very elite club, being a Supreme

Court justice. Of course they talk, of course, on Monday morning,

they talk about talk about their weekend. Of course, Samuel Alito said,

hey, yeah, wait, don't you hear what I did? Hear what

I got to do? So he either. I mean, I've certainly met

people who just don't have the self awareness to realize that they're doing something that

looks really bad. That's possible, but I assume you don't get to be

a Supreme Court justice being an idiot. So I have to assume that Samuel

Alito had the self awareness to know that to any normal person this might look

really bad. So giving him that benefit of the doubt, and assuming he's

not completely oblivious and does have a degree of self awareness, I have to

assume that he was just so arrogant that he just didn't care, just didn't

care how it looks he might have convinced himself. He very well. Look,

we're all guilty of it. We've all done this, right. I

don't mean we've done what this, but we've all been in situations where we

convince ourselves of things. Oh, I can trust myself in this particular scenario.

Right, We convince ourselves that we can trust ourselves with things that maybe

we shouldn't actually be trusting ourselves with, but we kind of use that as

an excuse to do something we probably shouldn't be doing. So in other words,

he probably may have possibly convinced himself. You know what, this guy

has a case coming up that I'm going to be ruling on. Some people

might think that looks really inappropriate for me to accept this luxury trip. But

you know what. You know what, though I'm cool, I trust myself,

I know me, and I know that I am an ethical person above

reproach, and I would never allow something like this to influence me. So

hey, if Paul Singer wants to spend all this money on me, jokes

on him, it's not going to affect my decision in this case one iota.

That's right. I'm say I'm alito, I'm I'm I'm ethical. I

am so confident in my own ethics that you can buy me a luxury trip

and I know it will not affect how I feel about you and your court

case and how I'm going to rule. It won't affect anything. Oh,

you can try. You can try to bribe me. Oh, go ahead

and try. That's how confident I am in my goodness, in my ethics,

in my honesty. No, seriously, go ahead, try to bribe

me. Go ahead. Yea sad we have a luxury trip. Oh good,

good. I mean you're wasting your time. It's not gonna get you

anything. But yeah, go ahead, go ahead and try whatever I want.

I will try to stop you. I mean, people do again,

and that's an element of human nature. People do, uh, people do

talk themselves into things thinking that I can trust myself and then oops, I

let myself down. Oh but I can't admit to myself that I let myself

down. Scott Robinson says, kind of like that Pepperonian pineapple pizza. It's

nothing like that, Scott. That's a pineapple on pizzas in its own realm

of hell. Let's see Durban said quote, You're not talking about minor rulings.

That is substantial unquote. Last month, Pro Publica published a similarly striking

story about Justice Clarence Thomas, who was treated to lavish vacations for more than

two decades by billionaire and Republican megadonner Harlan Crowe, including on his yacht,

private jet, and exclusive resorts. Crowe also bought the house where Thomas's mother

lives, provided most of the budget for a conservative political organization founded by Thomas's

wife, j n The well I was gonna, I was gonna refer to

Jail, I was gonna editorialize and refer to Jenny as his insurrectionist wife.

But I don't think she actually stormed the capital. She just uh, but

she did try to subvert democracy by overturning the election, working behind the scenes

to overturn the election. Uh. Seditionist will go with that, Jinny the

seditionist wife of Clarence Thomas. Um and uh oh that's odd. Sorry,

everybody, A little issue with my computer here? Um see did I fix

it? I fixed it? Um? Yeah? So uh oh, and

Harlan Crowe covered the tab of the private school tuition for Thomas's grand nephew,

So Durban said, quote this is the bottom line. As far as I

see it, the disclosures from Justice Alito strangely or sadly parallel the same disclosure

is about Justice Thomas. It appears that there's a feeling on the Supreme Court

that it's none of our business. No one needs to know when conflicts or

interests occur, and the Justices don't need to refuse themselves on critical decisions that

are worth billions of dollars from people who are briefs are befriending them on their

vacations. By the way, part of the reason I think you do occasionally.

It's rare, though, or maybe it's not as rare as I think

it is. I mean, somebody who pays somebody who really watches the Supreme

Court more closely than I do, might know better. But my impression is

that it's relatively rare. But it does happen. Recusals do happen. They

have happened where somebody on the Supreme Court says I don't I don't think I

should rule on this case for whatever reason. But my suspicion is that because

that happens every once in a while, that there is probably a thought in

the minds of these justices that, well, you know, people do recuse

themselves occasionally, so that should be good enough. So we look like we

are recusing ourselves when appropriate. So if we don't recuse ourselves when we're being

bought and paid for it, that's okay. As long as it happens once

in a while, no one will catch on it, says here. While

ethical transgressions among Supreme Court justices are not new, the frequency and depth of

the transgressions seems to have reached a crescendo, and legal and judicial ethics experts

agree that the Court is at a watershed moment standing on the precipice of public

trust. See again, though, the public trust thing, this is something,

This has become a narrative in the mainstream media. Well, the court

is losing the public trust. I got news for you. I'm the only

one will say it. I don't think they care. I don't Why would

they care. It's a lifetime appointment. They don't care about the public's trust.

Why would they what's gonna happen. They're gonna lose their next election.

Hoops, it's a lifetime appointment. Doesn't matter to them. I promise you

that's the last thing on the minds of any of these people public's trust.

Scott says in the chat room, that's very cynical. Yeah, I know,

I know. See to me, it all seems obvious, but it's

actually too cynical for what you get in the mainstream media. So if I

have to be the guy who says, hey, let's just call this like

it is, then I guess that's a I guess I'm the chosen one.

As a former president once said, A gallop hole taken last year showed that

just twenty five percent of the public has faith in the Supreme Court, a

new low and down from thirty one in twenty twenty one. The wake of

increasing perceptions of politicization and a widely unpopular ruling overturning the Roe v. Wade

precedent that guaranteed abortion access, The ethical controversies have done little to restore trust.

For his part, Alito has strongly denied any ethical wrongdoing, issuing a

legalistic defense to the Wall Street Journal that purses the terminology used to govern ethics

transgressions, and has been criticized for selectively addressing the allegations against him. Thomas

also has vehemently denied any conduct outside of current ethical guidelines, while the justice

is wow, good enough for me, Okay, thanks guys. No,

while the justices have reportedly been see, that's what they're counting on. Though

they count on that, well, we'll throw them. We'll just tell them

no, no, it's all good. Don't worry about it, and that'll

be good enough. And we don't care about the public trust anyway. So

whatever I got, I got a private I got a flight on a private

jet to catch. I don't have time to worry about public trust. I'm

going to the Bahamas with one of my billionaire buddies. It's got a case

coming before the court next month. It's gonna be great. Not that that

has anything to do with the trip, but I gotta go catch to that

plane. Can't keep a billionaire waiting. A billionaire is going to spend a

lot of money on me. While these justices have reportedly been internally debating about

how to reform their code of ethics for the last four years, they failed

to reach a consensus. Oh I have not committed to a timeline, and

Chief Justice Roberts has refused invitations to appear before a Congress who addressed the matter.

Oh yeah, he doesn't care. And now he's also in his seventies,

right, Justice Roberts, Yeah, he's You think at this point he's

all of a sudden gonna say, you know what, maybe maybe this was

maybe maybe this was a mistake accepting all the you know, maybe I should

go talk to Congress about and explain my side of things. He doesn't care.

He's gonna be a Supreme Court until the day he dies, and he

knows it. He does not care. Democrats in both chambers have offered legislative

solutions, but even those with bipartisans support would be difficult to pass through the

Republican controlled House, especially at a time when the Court's conservative majority is set

to move on a slate of issues important to their voting base. Durban said,

quote, they failed to disclose the very basic things. It's got to

come to an end. Unquote all right, well, nothing will change.

Let's see, we are a little bit past stop they are. We do

need to get to a break soon. But Jenny is on the line.

Hello, Hello, Did I catch you in between topics? Uh no,

but that's okay, it's it's it's a good time. I was listening and

trying. I wanted to call him and just say thank you to the people

that have been supporting me. I'm really excited only Sunday to go back to

DC to attend the People's Action National Convention. Yes, and there's about forty

different organizations that are going to be there. We're expecting thousand people are so

in attendance. I'm really excited to get to speak there about healthcare and that

everybody deserves access to healthcare, no matter who they are. This in this

nation, everybody should be able to access health care. And that's what I'm

going to be working on. And I will be coming back in late Tuesday

night after I go back to the Capitol and do some more lauding before I

come home. Yes, yes, very good. And will any of that

be streaming? Do you know? I mean I would assume so, but

I think so. But I've been so we've all been doing so many things

preparing for this. Thank you for getting to ask. Yeah, it's streams.

Yeah, I'm sure everything's going to be recorded and stuff. And I

do know that there are some videos of me that well to be getting put

together. They may be coming soon. Very good, will be will be

more videos yes, yes, of course, all right, excellent, all

right, Rady, I will let you go into the next topic because I

was actually paying attention. I was trying to thank before you started. The

Wall Street Okay, I actually listened before I call it. It's this crazy

thing I have. Yeah, I'm kind of like figuring out what you're talking

about. I don't know. Not everyone does that. Who knows. It's

It's good. It's a good habit. All right, Jenny, thank you?

All right, bye bye, all right, very good. Um,

yeah, just quickly and then we will get a break. But um.

Wall Street Journal Editorial board defends Alito. All right, let's see what they

had to say. Now, this isn't directly from the Wall Street Journal.

This is from Politico. Says here. The Wall Street Journals Editorial Board defended

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and it's previously undisclosed fishing trip with the GOP donor

in an editorial Wednesday night, blasting Pro Publica's report as a non scandal built

on partisan's spin. Actually, oh never mind, Oh we had another call,

the board wrote, quote, the political assault on the Supreme Court continues,

and the latest justice in the grinder is Samuel Alito as usual. This

is a non scandal built on partisan spin intended to harm the Justice and the

current court majority unquote. Aldo came under scrutiny after a Pro Publica investigation revealed

that the Justice had taken an expensive and previously undisclosed luxury fishing trip with prominent

conservative donor Paul Singer in two thousand and eight. He also stayed at a

pricey in bank rolled by another major GOP donor. The report alleged Aledo penned

a defensive op ed in the Journal before the report's a publication, denying any

wrongdoing, alleging in the headline that Pro Publica misleads its readers. Yeah.

So the reason that happened is so Pro Publica reached out to Aledo for comment

on the story, So he knew the story was coming, so um,

he posted that op ad in the Wall Street Journal as kind of a pre

bottle to get out ahead of the story. And Shannon's on the line.

High, Shanna, good afternoon, How are you good? How are you?

I know it's your favorite day? Yes, good tell policy and DJ

Stephen Mike. I said hello, yeah, absolutely tonight, Okay, we'll

do And I was gonna say, Um, the judge did when he went

on his fishing trip, did he did he go over the limit on his

catch? Is that divulged anywhere? I mean, really he probably did.

Okay, good, who's gonna hold him accountable? Yeah, I mean there's

limitations, you know, I think I don't know any more what they are.

But truthfully, you know, fishing wise, there's limitations. But yes,

that's neither here nor there. I was being smart, No I did.

Yeah, I know, I know, nerdy pants, you know it's

allowed. Barney, all right, Shannon, have a good night. All

right, you two have a good weekend. You absolutely, she's listening.

She heard you, all right, by bye. All right. That was

our friend, Shannon. I just want to finish up with this before we

get to a break. Um, the editorial board lambassad pro Publica for it's

uh And by the way, pro Publica is a liberal site. That that

is, we should say that, but uh, lambassad pro Publica for it's

a typically slanted quote unquote reporting alleging that Alito had violated the Court's ethics policy

of disclosing gifts. Numerous lawmakers have called for reform on the court since the

outlet revealed earlier this year, Justice Clarence Thomas's close eyes with GOP Megadon or

Harlan Crow. Let me stop there for a second, though, I don't

see here's the point of all this, of why why I'm talking about this

today? Weather? Okay, So pro publica. So they're saying, The

Wall Street Journal is saying, well, pro publica, pro pro that's hard

to say pro public lah public Uh is uh? Pro public there, I

can do it. They're saying that, well, he violated, he violated

the ethics rules. What a ridiculous thing to accuse him of. How dare

they? Well? To me, honestly, that's not even the point.

The only point I'm trying to make, your guys, I don't you know,

I don't know how the ethics rules work. There doesn't seem to be

a whole lot of ethics rules, or they don't seem to be enforced all

what. I'm just making the point that no one should be surprised, and

we need to get over this idea of thinking as a supreme of the Supreme

Court is somehow being different. Those are politicians. They you know, there's

a reason we have liberal and conservative justices and judges in this country. They're

politicians. They are. We can pretend all we want to that they're not,

but they are. And again, think of how highly politicized the entire

process it is to just go through confirmation to become a Supreme Court justice,

and then you can accurately predict not all the time, but much of the

time which way each individual justice is going to rule based on what they're politics,

their ideology. So I'm just saying we need to, you know,

if we want anything to change here. I'm not worried particularly about what rule

he broke or didn't break. What I'm worried about is that he had the

arrogance to not even care about There's this phrase that everybody should know the appearance

of impropriety, not just impropriety, the appearance of impropriety. And if you're

in a position of power and you don't care about the appearance of impropriety,

whether there is any actual impropriety or not, if you're not cared about the

appearance of it, then you're just arrogant. You know you don't have to

You're in a position where you know you don't have to care, so you

don't care, So you engage in what is much impropriety or even things that

might look like impropriety as you want to, because it just doesn't matter to

you. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. To Samuel Alito.

I'm not there. They're saying, well, you know, they're they're

claiming he violated the rules. It's not about whether or not he violated the

rules. It's about the fact that he doesn't care. And I'm sure none

of them care, and I'm sure John Roberts doesn't care, and I damn

well know Clarence Thomas doesn't care. None of them care because they don't care

about us, because they don't care what we think. They are the elite,

they know it, and they don't care about any of us, and

they don't care about our trust. Oh, trust in the Supreme Court is

at an all time low. I've not trusted the Supreme Court a day in

my life, just as I have not trusted senators, just as I'm not

trusted Congressman, just as I've not trusted presidents, just as I would not

trust a king or a queen. You don't blindly just trust people in power.

I mean, and by the way, if there's someone if there's a

particularly powerful person who you do put your blind faith and trust and unquestioning faith

and trust, well then you might be an occult. But anyway, the

board added, the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board quote, Justice Elito is still

on the court, so he is the big fish that Pro Publica is attempting

to catch and filet We are defending the Court because someone has to. Someone

has to stand up for judicial independence and an institution that is part of the

bedrock of our constitutional order. Unquote. I wish I'd worn some boots before

I read that. Wow, we are standing up for the court because someone

has to. Oh, the poor Supreme Court is being picked on. Let

me translate that for you. We at the Wall Street Journal editorial Board,

we are part of the elite. Someone else in the elite is being picked

on. The system protects itself, The elite protect themselves. That's what that

really means. Trying to cast the Supreme Court as some sort of victim.

That's actually bizarre and pretty nuts, even for the Wall Street Journal. Stephen

Engelberg, Pro public As editor in chief condemned the op ed's headline quote,

which the piece declared without having without anyone having read the article and without asking

for our comment. We're curious to know whether the journal fact checked the essay

before publication, unquote, he told The New York Times. Meanwhile, a

new poll from Quinnipiac published Wednesday found that the Supreme Court's public approval rating singing

to thirty percent among registered voters, the lowest and the poll began nearly two

decades ago. They don't care. I'm telling you all right, let's get

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tonight and I'm intrigued as to what Jenny is doing. I wish there was

more info and um, I mean, I hope and surely obviously it's a

peaceful event, but I just, hands down, that's pretty courageous. So

that's kind of what I'm saying. Yes, yes, I'm very proud of

her. And of course, uh, yep, she's going going for another

event and in DC or a couple of things where she'll be speaking and it's

it's fantastic. You know, she's really doing a lot to try to uh

you know, help people get healthcare. Yeah, well, thank god.

I mean, you never hear about people standing up, and to know someone

that does it, it's like, wow, that's awesome. So I I

wish you that totally the best. Uh. I can't wait to hear the

outcome. Yes, well, I would love to see it on the news,

but that's not going to happen. Uh well, I mean maybe not

on local news here in Manchester, but uh, I wouldn't be I wouldn't

be surprised if you see your pop up on the national news. Yeah.

Well, any even anyway, that was it. It's gonna be a good

show tonight, I know. And Jenny, huh really kudos to you.

I mean that's great. Yeah she said, everybody be safe, have a

good weekend. All right, Ron, thank you for the call. I

appreciate it. And yet Matt Matt, Matt, Matt, Yes still they

met. I am, yes, I'm still here. Um. I guess

the other day that allegedly some food was left over, did anybody uh take

pirate for it? It just get trashed a couple of hot dogs. I

did not. I have no idea. I don't know anything about hot dogs

being left Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have no no clue. I

couldn't tell you. Yeah, it don't matter. I've just it was curiosity,

because you know, curiosity more than anything. That's all right, guys,

all right, Ron, thank you for the call. Bye bye,

all right, thank you, bye bye. All right. That was our

friend Ron. Always nice here from him. I know nothing of the hot

dogs, but uh, I mean, and even if I did get here

in the afternoon and there were hot dogs left over, that's not something.

I think. It's one thing if there's like a muffin, like if somebody

leaves a muffin, uh, you know, I uh, but I'll enjoy

that. But if there were some hot dog, I do. I remember

the time I came in and uh, there was a box of donuts left

over from the morning show. And I opened the box of donuts and there's

there's a few donuts, but there's also a hot dog in there. And

uh, I couldn't touch those donuts after they'd been in the box with that

hot dog, because something about that just seems so wrong. But Jenny is

in the chat room, Ron, if you're still listening, she said,

thank you, Yes, absolutely absolutely, uh six three two five O six

O seven is a number if you'd like to join us six zo three two

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You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com, and of course

you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing

to do so the weekend here and enjoy your dolcet tones is to give us

a call at six zo three two five six seven six zo three two five

six seven. Oh, but I do want to finish talking about what's going

on tonight with the big gay bingo at the Hopknot because this is actually for

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The game is free to play, but we'd love it if you made

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and empowerment. So that will be uh so, yeah, that's an excellent

cause, you know, and they do you know, we're very proud to

have them as a sponsor for a number of reasons, but they do a

lot for the community at the Hopknot, and hey, the food's pretty good

too and the craft beer and Trudy is going to be here with us on

Monday in studio, so we look forward to that. But yes, it's

like bingo but gay and of course appropriate for a Pride month. It is

the twenty third, so we've got about another Yeah, we've got another week

left, one more week of of Pride for twenty twenty three. So very

good, very good. Also going on tonight too. By the way,

DJ Reckless is in the main room at SOHO tonight if you want to go

and see him DJ and support. He's been working very, very hard and

we're very proud of him, so I just want to mention that too.

Let's see a quick thing. This came up earlier in the week. I

think it was Crystal, our friend from Illinois, I think who had originally

brought this up, and we didn't get to it that day. I haven't

seen her in the chat room, so I don't know if she's listening today.

But this story about Spotify. Bill Simmons at Spotify, he's a Spotify

executive and he called um he called Prince Harry and Megan Markle blanking grifters,

except to use the actual word, which starts with F and I do not

mean farfugnugan. And initially I was kind of like, oh, whatever,

because I don't care about the royal family and I don't care about Prince Harry

and Megan Markle. But it's not something I get into. I just don't

pay that much attention to them. But this did catch my interest actually upon

taking a second look, because I do care about media in all its forms,

whether we're talking about more establishment media like cable news for example, or

online media like Spotify and all their various podcasts and things. What goes on

in the world of media at any of the various levels that we have today

is very interesting to me, especially when there's some sort of drama. So

this is from Newsweek. Spotify exec has grenade like Prince Harry's story. So

I did want to take a closer look at this because I'm very curious about

what happened here, you know, and again, if you're a host or

a content creator like myself, this type of thing might be interesting to you.

Says here the collapse of the Spotify deal will not damage Megan Markle,

but an executive an executive's hint at a grenade like anecdote about Prince Harry could

be crippling, a PR expert told Newsweek. The Duke and Duchess of sexis

is multi year partnership with the streaming giant along with Netflix, was heralded as

proof of their financial independence from the monarchy when it was announced in December of

twenty twenty Three years later, and the two sides have parted ways with only

a twelve part podcast to show for it. Bill Simmons, host of podcast

Innovation, Oh I'm sorry Bill Simmons, He's the head of podcast innovation and

monetization at Spotify, added insult to injury by calling the couple blanking grifters during

his own podcast. The swipe captured headlines not only at the ordinarily hostile British

press, but also as far and wide a CNN Variety and Deadline. However,

there was another remark by Simmons that caught the eye of PR consultant Eric

Schiffer, head of Reputation Management Consultants. Simmons added quote, I got to

get drunk one night and tell the story of the zoom call I had with

Harry trying to help him with a podcast idea. It's one of my best

stories unquote, Schiffer told Newsweek. Quote that is a crippling comment because it

raises it at a critical time with the contract, and it suggests there's something

there that could be a grenade like story to Harry. We'll have to see

whether he chooses to release it. For a Spotify executive to attack Harry and

broad Daylight and Spotify not condemn. It suggests there's some strong feelings within the

executive team at Spotify against Harry and perhaps some dark feelings about the interactions unquote.

Simmons account is difficult for Harry because it highlights the fact that the Duke

did attempt to produce a Spotify podcast that never got to the point it was

considered fit for release. However, the Sussex camp may also note the phrase

quote one of my best stories unquote, which suggests Simmons may have already told

people what was discussed. Now I'm going to let's look at this other story

because I think this is related. This is from Bloomberg, and uh,

this is new so this I think this gets into Uh. Oh, hello

to Uh there's a new name in the Facebook live chat Brandon. Uh.

Curseo Cercio. I'm sorry for butchering your last name, but welcome to the

program, Brandon. This is something. Uh, this is popped up,

so I think this is related. This is from Bloomberg. Prince Harry's podcast

Pitch interview Putin and Trump about their childhoods. During a nearly three year production

deal with Spotify, the Duke of Sussex explored several podcast ideas. None came

to fruition. By the way, if anyone from Spotify is listening, if

you'd like to offer me a multi year deal with lots of money, I'd

be more than happy too. I've got lots of ideas. I've got tons

of ideas and uh and I'm not a grifter and uh, you know,

I mean feel free to uh you know, I know you back back to

the brinkstruck up to Joe Rogan's front door when you hired him. If you

want to do that for me, you certainly ken. Oh oh, I'm

sorry. I should have recognized the name, Jenny says, Brandon isn't one

of my favorite bands? After image? Yes, yes, all right,

welcome Brandon after Image of course has been on the show. Great great band.

Go back and check that episode in the archive if you didn't hear the

interview. Fantastic. Okay, So here's what it says here. Hey,

everyone, welcome back to SoundBite. It's another week of Spotify news, this

time with a royal family twist. Okay, what were Prince Harry's podcast ideas?

It says last week news broke that, like many of Spotify's high profile

podcast deals over the years, Megan Marco and Prince Harry's partnership with the Swedish

streamer is coming to an end. I didn't know Spotify was a Swedish company.

My goodness. Are they in Nato yet or are we still trying to

make that happen? Are the ones where there's the issue? Where is at

Finland? Who's Turkey still mad at where they can't get in? I forget

anyway. In a joint emailed statement, Spotify and Archwell Audio, marcol and

Harry's production company said they quote have mutually agreed to part ways and are proud

of the series we made together unquote Oh the twelve episode thing. It's not

a bad time to look back at the twenty twenty press release announcing the partnership,

which promised Marcol and Harry would produce and host podcasts and that the first

complete series was expected to debut in twenty twenty one. Ultimately, the relationship

only yielded one season of one show, arch of Types, which Marcol hosted

at, debuted in twenty twenty two. Hey listen, can I just throw

this out there? And I told you I have a lot of ideas.

I would like to hear Megan Markle to a podcast about her experience acting on

the television series Suits. Megan Markle the only reason I ever knew who she

was before she married Prince Harry was because she played Rachel Zane on the show

Suits, which aired on the USA Network. I don't watch a lot of

television, but I was a big fan of that show. Beyond that,

I never really cared much about her, but a big fan of that show.

I think she should do a podcast about Suits. I think that'd be

fantastic. I mean, I don't think i'd actually bother to listen to it,

but it's just just an idea. But apparently the deal's already off,

so it says over the past week, more details have continued to emerge.

Fellow Spotify podcaster Bill Simmons took his eponymous show to call the couple grifters and

tease an absurd zoom call he once had with Harry about possible podcast ideas,

which he told listeners is one of his best stories, that said. Simmons

had previously criticized Harry in January twenty twenty three, saying he was so embarrassed

to be on Spotify with him. Wow, that'd be fascinating if you're in

that position. You know, you you're an executive at Spotify and you've you've

made a multimillion dollars deal with this person, and then you say you're so

embarrassed to be on the same platform as them. The dynamics of that are

fascinating to me. Yeah, Simmons at the time said, quote, what

does he do? It's one of those things where it's like, what's your

talent? Why are we listening to you? So you were born in a

royal family and then you left. You sell documentaries and podcasts and nobody cares

what you have to say about anything unless you talk about the royal family,

and you just complain about them unquote, although again, if his wife wants

to talk about suits, I would care about that, not enough to bother

to actually listen, though, so it probably doesn't count. Thanks to his

uncensored takes on the Prince's media skills or apparent lack thereof, Simmons has now

joined the upper ranks of Harry commentators to point that paparazzi, oh, I'm

sorry, to the point that paparazzi at the Daily Mail are snapping photos of

him walking in a parking garage. Really though, this got me wondering,

while there's been all this talk of Markle's podcast and what she did or didn't

produce, what happened to the potential Harry show. I spoke to people with

knowledge of the situation about what idea, what ideas the Prince floated, and

why none of them ever came to fruition. They requested anonymity because they weren't

authorized to speak about his work. Spotify decline to comment. As at artwell

Audio, Harry spoke with multiple producers and production houses. These people said to

discuss possible shows. Along the way, Harry listened to various ideas from others,

but mostly stuck to his own, including one about childhood trauma. The

concept Harry would interview a procession of controversial guests such as Vladimir Putin, Mark

Zuckerberg, and Donald Trump about their early formative years and how those experiences resulted

in the adults they are today. Not the worst idea. Harry also had

an idea. The people said, for a show centered on fatherhood. That

sounds boring, but I'm not a day. Maybe if I was a dad,

i'd like it. Another one would have tackled major societal conversations episode by

episode, ranging from climate change to religion. Oh my god, now that

would have been spectacular. What an original idea. Obviously I'm being sarcastic.

You know, there's literally a million other podcasts that do that. That's one

of the few statistics I actually have memorized. There's there's actually one million podcasts

it discuss that specifically. I mean, I'm rounding that number up a little

bit. But for the latter, Harry hoped to have Pope Francis on as

a guest. Okay, so basically Harry's whole thing was he was gonna bring

on these really big and important guests. The practicality of these ideas struck some

people in the Harry podcast cosmos as questionable at best, given that people like

Putin and Zuckerberg rarely give wide ranging interviews about the topics they're passionate about,

let alone about their upbringings and personal childhood dramas. Yeah, I wouldn't even

want to be in a room with of Latimer Putin. Scott Robinson says,

Matt, you say sarcastic, I say cynical. In any case, no

podcast from Harry ever materialized. The difficulty of nailing down a workable idea and

actually recording a show over nearly three years of a production deal speaks to the

broader reckoning around celebrity driven content. Yeah, you know what's interesting. You

know what this reminds me of. So Spotify is one example where you see

this. Another is serious XM satellite radio, and I have satellite radio in

my car and I listen to Howard Stern something that I've heard Howard, and

I love my news channels. I love having access to news anytime I want

it, which is much of the time. But something Howard has complained about

over the years is the way that Sirius XM will give a celebrity, like,

Oh, he loves to complain about Oprah anyway, It's always been kind

of his thing. It's not like he hates her or anything. He likes

to complain about her, but just as an example. So, at one

point they made a deal with Oprah where they gave Oprah her own channel,

and they've they've done this with other celebrities too, But then the content on

the Oprah channel is barely any actual Oprah Oprah Winfrey. There's barely any of

her on there, and it's just a lot of other content that people who

like Oprah might enjoy, but almost no actual Oprah. And Howard just is

amazed that that company would spend so much money to effectively license the name of

Oprah Winfrey without actually without her actually doing anything in terms of contributing content.

And on the rare occasion that she was going to do something, it was

a really big deal, but she was going to do like a thirty minute

This actually happened one time. In fact, this relates to childhood trauma.

She was going to be doing on the Oprah Channel, a thirty minute special

where she was going to be taking calls from listeners who would experienced childhood trauma

and talking with them and hearing their stories, and she's going to have a

psychologist, Sarah with her to help her for thirty minutes. Thirty minutes,

Like, who'd even bother to tune in for something that's only going to be

on for a half hour. And Howard was just a gast just could not

believe that that company spend all that money just to do something like that with

Oprah. And again there's other examples too, but but this is a thing

with these platforms, whether it's Spotify or sirius XM all right, a little

bit more to this article. It says the pandemic reduced work for movie stars

and others who typically fly around the world from project to project. Instead,

they were all stuck at home with plenty of time on their hands, which

is why for a while so many celebrities were signing podcast deals, even if

they didn't necessarily have a concrete, workable idea that could get made into a

show, let alone become a hit. These stars also maintained expectations for the

kind of jumbo paychecks that were once reserved for movies, commercials and Las Vegas

club appearances. And we're not in any way typical of the podcast economy,

regardless, audio executives clamor to sign up a listers in the hopes they'd win

and secure a hit. The companies staffed up, and for a while it

felt like the momentum would never stop. But as we re emerge from that

time and both stars and norms go back to some semblance of their old routines,

we're seeing many of those earlier commitments fall by the wayside. In short,

the great celeb podcast boom is quickly going bust. Clearly, in retrospect,

many of these vastly expensive deals that never resulted in much of anything shouldn't

have been made, but the money was spent, and as cost cutting measures

continue to spread through the podcast industry, the ramifications of this misspending for everybody

else aren't entirely over yet. Just ask the many regular producers, editors,

and engineers who continue to lose their jobs. So that gives us a little

more insight into some of Prince Harry's ideas. It's I mean, it sounds

to me just obviously on the outside looking in, that you know, yeah,

ye had ideas. It's sometimes it's not a matter of you know,

I've fallen into this trap myself, and I think a lot of creative people

do. Sometimes it's not a matter of lacking ideas. Sometimes you can have

several ideas, but it's almost if you have too many ideas, it's hard

to commit to one. And if you don't commit to a single idea,

then you end up in this sort of paralyzed state where nothing happens because you

haven't you haven't chosen a path that you're going to go down, so you

end up just kind of standing there. You've got a bunch of ideas but

no action. Sometimes the hardest part is picking something, saying I'm going to

do that, this is my idea, this is the direction I'm going.

If you're spending you know, in business, they call it analysis paralysis,

where you don't make a decision because you're spending so much time trying to examine

all the options and perhaps second guessing yourself and over analyzing, and but you

end up just not deciding anything. It's like the line from that Rush song,

Uh, you know, I if you what is it? Even if

you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. I'm not

sure I said that right now. Whatever they're Canadian. If I'm gonna quote

somebody on the show, I should be quoting American bands, right America six

three two five six seven six three two five six Z seven. If you'd

like to get in with a very quick and terse call before we completely run

out of time on today's program, there was something, there was something very

brief that we could do. Let's do this. Governor, former governor of

New Jersey, Chris Christie, was in New Hampshire campaigning as he often.

I think he basically lives here now. Actually I think he's here a lot,

you know, at least until such time. I mean, I don't

think he has any kind of a chance. But one of the things about

Chris Christie, and you know, we've talked about this on the show with

our friend Eric Pilcher, who will be back soon by the way, if

you're wondering about his film reviews and everything, he's he's taking a little break

because he's got some family stuff to deal with. But he will be back,

I promise. But Eric Pilcher, my favorite Conservatives as I like to

talk, as I like to say about him, he um, he's actually

endorsed Chris Christie. I don't endorse candidates myself, except for Jerry Robinson,

of course, for Savior of real rock and roll music. That's an exception,

because Jerry Robinson is just extremely impressive. But there was something I've noticed

about Chris Christie though, and Eric and I talked about this on the show

recently, is that. And I think I dare say I think our conversation

about this might have contributed in some way to him ultimately deciding to endorse Chris

Christie. You see a lot of well, you take Governor ron to Santis

for example, he's kind of the extreme of this. But if you ask

a Governor Ron to Santis in a media appearance, why is he running for

president? The first thing out of his mouth, literally the first thing out

of his mouth is he talks about how we have to defend I'm sorry,

not defend. We have to defeat wokeism. And it's very important to defend

defeat wokeism and leftism and the LGBTQ plus agenda and all of it is just

so terrible and we have to defeat it, you know, he'd And meanwhile,

of course, if you're maybe a moderate Republican sitting there staring at your

electric bill going, How am I going to? Hey this it's double what

it was last year at this time. That might not be the first thing

on your list of priorities, but it is the first thing on Rhoda Santis's

mind. And you have a lot of other Republican candidates who don't take it

to the extreme that DeSantis does, but they do talk about that stuff a

lot. They're very much into the culture war stuff. Nicki Haley certainly is,

and others. Chris Christie, interestingly, one of the ways that he's

distinguished himself, aside from the fact that he's not afraid of Donald Trump and

not afraid to directly take him on, is he also doesn't seem to be

particularly interested in the culture war stuff, and he's not interested in, you

know, attacking trans people and all of it. And in fact, and

this actually surprised me. So again, a lot of these uh Republican candidates,

uh, you know, they're they're always well again. DeSantis in Florida

signed a bill no more gender affirming care, I think for anybody, right,

but Chris Christie, in my view, he's the want a Republican that

really stands out on this issue. He has asked about this very subject by

Brian Kilmeade on Fox News, and this is just only a minute, but

I just want to share with you Chris Christie's answer because I must tell you

this guy, in my view, knocks it out of the park with what

he has to say. And I love what he has to say here.

And if we had more time on the show today, we could really dig

in on this. But I'll just share this and maybe we'll pick this up

on Monday. But listen, here's the question and answer. Listen to this

where he's doing quite well, already making an impact. Governor, your thoughts

about the posh in Florida and Arkansas to make it illegal to do it for

kids under eighteen, Brian, you know, I just don't want to see

our government getting more more intrusive in everybody's life, getting bigger. I don't

think anything can replace parents when you're talking about major decisions that are need to

be made by our children. And I would say this, I want all

parents out there to think about something. How many other decisions do you want

the government making for you in your home regarding your kids. I don't want

any of those decisions made by the government. Parents are the ones who love

their children the most, who care about their children the most, who understand

their children the most, and parents should be the ones making these decisions.

So if a fourteen year old comes home and says, I really want to

start switching genders, that's the parent's decision. Absolutely, I'll tell you it's

more of a parent's decision than is a governor's decision. For goodness, Saints

Brian, you really think that Sarah Huckabee Sanders should be making this decision for

children in Arkansas. I love Sarah. I think she's a great person and

a really good governor. But I don't think she would ever allow the government

to substitute her judgment as a mother for their judgment. And that's what I'm

saying. I would want any government official coming in and telling me what decisions

I can help my child through and how I should do it, and I

want those decisions to be made by not by the government. All right,

let's switch in. I think that is a fantastic answer, And by the

way, it would seem to me, there is a conservative principle rooted in

that. Is there not the idea that, you know, keep the government

out of decisions that are being made in my family. Keep the government out

of decisions that I'm making with my kids or that I'm and my partner are

making with our kids. That's none of the government's business. And I think

he gave a very smart and sophisticated answer to that, and it really puts

him at odds in addition to, of course his willingness to take on Trump

and not cower like a supplicant like Mike Pence. Does you know, except

for those rare occasions when he can actually manage to uh find some cojones,

if I may use that term, it's Friday. So I just think that's

an excellent answer, and listen, I have a lot of Again, I

I'm not on the Chris Chris you know, Chris Christy bandwagon, but you

know I like the more moderate voices in the Republican Party. That's why.

You know, people ask me, why do you cling to Sinunu. That's

why, because I don't hear so Nunu. You know, if you talk

to Chris and Nunu, he's not you know, the first thing out of

his mouth is, well, we need to do something about these trans people,

you know, like does Santas just does Santa seems psychotic to me,

to be honest with you, Um, I don't even really know what Trump's

position is on any of that. I did think it was funny. H

You know, if you're a regular listener, you know I'm no fan of

Trump, but I did think it was funny a couple of weeks ago when

Trump said, you know, de Santas, he's always talking about woke,

woke quoke quoke, like anybody even knows what that actually means. I don't

know what that means, and it was kind of funny. But anyway,

so we will end with that. Oh, Davids uh dismukes in the chat

ram says Chris CHRISTI collapsed I ninety five in Philly when he got out of

his car. Oh that's well, that's that's mean. That's kind of clever.

But but it's mean. But uh, it's sometimes we're sometimes we're mean.

I don't mind mean humor, but hey, you know, he could

be uh, he could be the No, I'm kidding, he's not going

to be the nominee. But but I'm ninety five. By the way,

just really quickly before we go, I can't believe what a triumph of infrastructure.

That is, they've already got it reopened. I don't know if it's

completely reopened. But when that collapse happened and the governor said we're gonna get

this opened in a couple of weeks, I said, that's no. Come

on, you know you wanna you wanna under promise and over deliver, not

the other way around. No, they it's open. It's open. It's

just incredible, very very impressive. All Right, we gotta go. We

are absolutely out of time. Please don't forget tonight. I will be back

for retro Spectrum Radio with Policy from eight to eleven PM tonight. Always look

forward to that. Don't forget tomorrow morning. Of course, from seven to

nine am you have the Morning Show with Peter White On Saturday's Peter runs usually

a classic episode of the Morning Show, or it might be something more recent,

just an episode that he selects it he really likes. And then immediately

after that, from nine to eleven am, you have the best of Matt

Connerton unleashed. I still need to produce some new ones of those. I

know. I say that every every day. I say that, Actually first

thing I say when I wake up in the morning. I need to produce

some more of those. No, I really do though, I really do.

But let's see tonight at the Hopknot. They've got big gay bingo it's

for a good cause and DJ Reckless is at the Soho tonight in the main

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Connerton dot com. Trudy from the Hopknot will be here with us on Monday

and studio. That's it for us for now. Uh yeah, we are

out of time, but we'll leave you with a little bit of day to

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