Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-27-26 hour 1

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0:20 Speaker 2: Right now, we have a wm n H ninety five point three FM and Matt Connerton Unleashed exclusive. You won't hear this anywhere else before July third, but we've got it here coming out of New York City, the world radio premiere of the new single from Frequency Overload. This is called Sunburn.

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5:30 Speaker 2: That is the world radio premiere of Sunburn from the band Frequency Overload. Our friends from those are some real New Yorkers there, But we had Frequency Overload on the show very recently. Was it last week or the week before? It all becomes a blur of my friends. I have to be honest with you. But because we talked to so many great musicians on the show, but really like those guys a lot. So Thomas Bush from Frequency Overload sent me that song and you know he's he was telling me about and it's his story to tell what I'd like to do, even though he just had them on the show.

6:01 Speaker 2: And if Thomas is listening hear me say this, I'd like to get him on the show, like sooner rather than later, just to talk about Sunburn specifically, maybe just a short follow up conversation about that, because he was saying that it has a lot of deep meaning to him, and it's a little bit different from the other Frequency Overload songs too, a little bit of a departure for them. But this song, again, it's his story to tell, but he did tell me some things about it. It has a lot of a deep personal meaning to him.

6:27 Speaker 2: But it's coming out July third, but he said that we could go ahead and do the exclusive world radio premiere for it right here on Matt Connerton Unleashed on WMNH ninety five point three FM. So very honored that he let us do that, especially knowing what the song means to him. I thought that was very very cool that he gave us that opportunity to so you literally heard it here first. So again sunburned by the band Frequency Overload. And yeah, we'll get Thomas on soon back on to talk about that song, you know, if he's willing, if he's able, and if he's got time in his schedule.

7:01 Speaker 2: But yeah, such a great band from New York City. Again, Frequency Overload. Please check him out, and you can, of course check out my conversation with the band on the show recently. I think it was a couple of weeks ago. Again, it does become a blur. We've got a great but very busy show for you today. In just a few minutes, we're gonna be talking to c J. Wildheart. He's a legend. Cannot wait to talk with him. We're gonna play his brand new single One of the Boys, and then we're gonna get CJ. Wildheart on with us via WhatsApp in the second hour.

7:29 Speaker 2: Julia Greenberg is gonna be with us on the show. In the third hour. We've got two bands. We've got Despire in the first half of the third hour, and then we've got The Rift in the second half of the third hour. To get all that. So we've got a very busy show, ad which is how I like it. I organize the busy show. But this is Matt Connorton Unleashed. And of course we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and it truly is glorious. The weather has been us perfect, so it is wonderful.

8:02 Speaker 2: This is my favorite time of year anyway. I love summer. If you know me at all, you know that summer is my favorite time. Of course, you can also stream the show from anywhere. You can go to Matt connorton dot com slash live and you can stream the show from literally anywhere. Well maybe not literally anywhere in the world. I'm sure there are some places in the world. In fact, I know there are where they keep a pretty tight control on the internet. But from almost anywhere in the world you can stream the show.

8:28 Speaker 2: Just go to Matt connorton dot com slash live and click that play button. And of course, if you go to our new site, Matt connorton Unleashed dot com, you can also find the archive of the show there and some articles. And that site is still fairly new, so we're still building a lot onto that website, Matt connorton unleashed dot com, but it is a site that is specifically dedicated to this program. So speaking of that, so speaking of our live feed, a couple of announcements. Just very quickly, yeah, very quickly, actually, I'm looking at the time, very very quickly.

9:04 Speaker 2: So if you are listening at mattconnorton dot com slash live, if you're listening there specifically coming up today immediately after my show. My show ends at noon Eastern. Immediately after my show, on the stream only at Matt connorton dot com slash live, you can hear the Big G Breakthrough Hour. And what that is is a new syndicated radio show from our friends at Big G'SPR. They send us our Big GPR, they send us a lot of our guests. We get a lot of great guests and a lot of our world radio premieres come from there.

9:40 Speaker 2: Our friends Gary and Eden from Big GPR, so we have a great relationship with them, love the new show. So it's not yet here at WMNH. I would like to get the show on WMNH, and I did pitch the show to management here. I haven't been given an answer, so hopefully we can. I think it would be a great addition to the lineup here. But you can hear the show again if you go to the live stream at Matt Coonnerton dot com slash live, you will be able to hear the show there immediately after this show today, only on that stream specifically.

10:14 Speaker 2: But I'm very happy to help with that. Spread the word. They've got a great show and it's already been picked up by quite a few stations. But like I said, I'm hoping to add WM ANDH to that list, but it's not up to me. But I did pitch it and I will follow up so but again Big GPR. But if you go to Matt connorton dot com slash live, if you're listening to this show there right now, well when it gets to be noontime, don't go away, just leave it going. You'll get to hear the new show from Big GPR called The Big G Breakthrough Hour, and you're gonna hear a lot of really good stuff new artists, some of them.

10:49 Speaker 2: Some of them might be artists that you've heard on this show, but a lot of them will be artists who you might hear in the future on this show. And just a lot of really great stuff. The other very quicknouncement, and again I do have to do this quickly. Tough Bumps if you're a fan of the Tough Bumps podcast, which has no affiliation with WMNH. That is strictly online. That is an online endeavor that I do that every week of course, with my friends Eric Pilcher and Austin Hicks. That's been on a little bit of a hiatus for a couple of weeks.

11:18 Speaker 2: We took a couple of weeks off. That does return tomorrow Sunday at four pm Eastern, as far as I know, it's still going to be at four pm Eastern. But Tough Bumps is back. Of course, today we have the Night of Champions WWE premium live event, so we'll be talking about that tomorrow night on Tough Bumps or tomorrow afternoon. I have no doubt. It's even earlier there where they are. Those guys are both in the Central time zone, so three pm there but four pm Eastern. And look for that online. Again, that is not carried on WM ANDH, just to be clear, but you can find it online of course on the IBM Nation YouTube channel on Facebook, and that's the live stream, and then you can get the podcast anywhere where you get your favorite pod cast.

12:00 Speaker 2: Please like and subscribe in all of that, so that will be back. I may have a third announcement soon, but the I'm waiting to get a reply on an email. But the third announcement I'm gonna have for you guys is really interesting. We'll see. I think the only one who really knows about what might be about to happen, is Jenny. I haven't said anything to anyone else because I don't want to until I know if it's definitely happening, but something there might be an interesting turn of events coming. Yeah, I'm sorry to be so vague.

12:36 Speaker 2: Anyway, on with the show we go. So we're gonna get again our first guest today we have a very busy show. CJ. Wildheart is going to be joining us via WhatsApp, but right now we're gonna go ahead and play his newest single, I love this. This is so good, it's so catchy. This is from his new album Devil. This is called one of the Boys from the Great CJ. Wildheart.

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15:55 Speaker 2: WhatsApp just crashed on me. So c J is aware of the problem, and we're to go ahead and play another great track from our friends c J Wildheart will uh while I get WhatsApp restarted. This one's called Oh this is a great song to at least he's got a lot of great tunes. This is called you got the best part of me? Check this out?

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21:59 Speaker 2: This guy, Hey everybody. So here's an update. WhatsApp has just restricted my account and is accusing me of spam and my account is restricted for the next five hours. This is something. This is unusual. Okay, So I am communicating, so I'm still able to message with CJ. CJ Wildheart via WhatsApp. I just can't make a call. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna send him a link for Microsoft Teams and we're gonna try it that way. But in the meantime, let's play some more from his album Devil and we're gonna we're gonna try this.

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24:47 Speaker 2: Watch all right? What a relief crisis averted. I think let me bring this up here. I think we've got c J Wildheart with us via Microsoft Team.

25:32 Speaker 8: CJ.

25:32 Speaker 2: Are you there, I am, yes, Oh, wonderful, wonderful, Thank you for your flexibility. We are live on the air, and I'm really glad to get John because I've been dying to talk to you, and we you know, you are here to experience a first here on Matt Connorton on Leafsed. I've never had WhatsApp crash on me like that. And then apparently WhatsApp has restricted my account. They are accusing me of spam, which is very very strange. So thank you for being flexible and welcome to the show.

26:03 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's probably my fault you've been banned from WhatsApp.

26:08 Speaker 2: You're gonna take the blame for that. Well, that's very generous of you.

26:10 Speaker 11: Thank you.

26:12 Speaker 2: My reputation for it does that's funny. Well listen, so welcome to the show. I love that song, you know. We did open with the single One of the Boys, such a great track. And but you you've been at this for a while, and of course you've got the new album Devil or how long? How is now new is Devil? At this point I should say how long has this been out? This is pretty new, is it?

26:35 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean the official release was yesterday.

26:39 Speaker 2: Oh wow.

26:42 Speaker 4: I run my online store so I do pre orders. So most people who bought it on vinyl which you sold that now and CDs have received. You know, they received their vinyl and the CDs a week or so before the album officially came out. But we we ran into a glitch yesterday, so it isn't up on all the usual streaming sights at the moment, so oh okay, trying to sort that out. It's just up on band camp digitally, but you know, it's it's the way of the soul trader, the entrepreneurial punk rock musician these days.

27:17 Speaker 4: You know, you get your music out there by any means possible.

27:22 Speaker 2: Exactly, absolutely. And band Camp, by the way, you know, this comes up a lot on the show. Band Camp is such a great site because it's very artist friendly, as you know, and also too, when you get your music from band camp, you get the highest quality file that you can get. It's it's not like you know, just streaming it from YouTube or whatnot, which is fine, but band Camp really does you right, you know, in terms of the quality of the file that you're getting when you buy your music on band Camp.

27:46 Speaker 2: And of course, like I said, very artist friendly. So so that's excellent that you're you know that you've got it up on there can can you talk about you know, because you you mentioned, uh, you kind of alluded to some of the challenges obviously that that it can happen to an independent artist. And I was reading something about how this album nearly didn't happen because you were kind of struggling to sort of figure out how to navigate through the current industry and some of the challenges that come with it.

28:17 Speaker 2: Is that true?

28:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of it. I'll be honest with you. I mean, I've been I'm fifty eight now, and i've been you know, I signed my first record deal when I was eighteen, so that's like, you know, forty years ago, and you know, I'm Generation X and I've gone through the whole change from Analog to Digitol, and so much has changed in the music industry. But you know, my time was the nineties. That was my time when I had a huge record deals with massive corporations. And if I hadn't had those big record deals, I wouldn't be talking to you today.

28:48 Speaker 4: You know, because I sell predominantly to a fan base that was started in the nineties. They ate it. And the problem with my fan base is they're getting older. A lot of them are dying off. A lot of them don't buy physical music anymore. And I make a living from selling physical music, not digital music. See these vinyl t shirts. And when your fan base is getting smaller, you start making less and less money, and so it gets harder each year to you know, call this a job, call it a living. But it's all I've done all my life, you know, I haven't.

29:27 Speaker 4: You know, I've never ran a day job alongside the music. Music has always been my day job. And on this album, I kind of knew how much I was going to sell, and I knew it was going to take me about six months to make I record mostly on my own, and I was thinking, Wow, am I doing this? I would probably earn more money put in the fries in the bag, you know what I mean?

29:48 Speaker 2: Understood, It is challenging, and obviously, you know, you've been around long enough that you've seen all of the changes in the music industry over the years. And it is true too. You know, you make money on merchant things like that and physical media, but in terms of what you're putting out digitally, you know, obviously we talked about it on the show a lot. Spotify doesn't pay very much it's it's hard, you know, it's it's hard to make a living. A lot of people don't realize that, you know. They think that if you're a musician and you're active, that you're in a mansion and you're driving a sports car and you know, you're flying a private jet everywhere, and it's, uh, it's not how it works.

30:23 Speaker 11: It is.

30:24 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be really honest with you. I had to sell the mansion in the private jet. Yeah, I travel in most places by hot air balloon. Now they go the way we roll in England. Had to get rid of the carton as well.

30:36 Speaker 11: You know.

30:37 Speaker 4: Sure, times are.

30:38 Speaker 2: Hard times, absolutely absolutely, And this is Your Devil is your eighth solo album? Is that right?

30:44 Speaker 3: It is?

30:45 Speaker 4: I mean it's my eighth studio solo studio album. I have a I put out a live album as well, and I had a best of album where I re recorded fifteen of the old tracks as well. So on my label it's album number ten. And I have two unofficial demo albums as well, so technically it's album number twelve.

31:06 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, you've been busy now. Originally, so when you first when you first signed your Wow, eighteen, right, So was that with the Wildhearts when you signed your first deal?

31:20 Speaker 3: No, No.

31:20 Speaker 4: I used to have a glam sleazy band called the Tattooed love Boys in the eighties and it was the band that kind of got me into London and got me on the London scene. And we were signed to a subsidiary of RCA and I made an album with them. But I was gigging heavily with that band in the late eighties round you know, in the UK sort of rock scene. And it's how me and Ginger met. I was playing a club in London and a mutual friend of ours Boredom along and you know, from that initial meeting we said, yeah, let's form a band together.

31:57 Speaker 4: And that band was the Wildharts.

31:59 Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha. So with the original deal with RCA, I mean, obviously, what was your output on that deal with the first band that you had. I mean was that because sometimes, and this is another thing that people outside the industry don't realize, just because you signed with the label doesn't mean that the label is necessarily going to actually release your music and that you're going to you know, immediately have a lot of success and whatnot. I mean, what was that experience like with that first deal?

32:25 Speaker 3: Was it was good?

32:25 Speaker 4: I mean the album came out in the States, but we never made it over to America. And I mean, to be honest with you, from the ages of about say eleven, until I was twenty, I went through various scenes very quickly. So I went from being into heavy metal to being into sleeves well to be in for fresh metal, and I was into sleeves for a couple of months, and ultimately I landed in punk. You know, punk is where I've always stayed, but it was a real learning curve those formative teenage years and just find I mean, where I felt comfortable because I've loved I love all sorts of music, and especially guitar music, and you know, I had to go through I had to be in like a kind of glammy sleeves band to get to the clash place where I feel most comfortable.

33:15 Speaker 2: Right now, that makes sense, uh, do you? I mean ideally you've released so many albums as a solo artist. I assume that's what your preference is at this point, Like have you thought about have you thought about starting another band or joining a band or are you is this kind of the trajectory that you intend to stay on in terms of having a solo career.

33:36 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's purely survival. So I run my own label and everything I release as a solo artist comes out of my own own label. But you won't get it in the shop. You have to buy it from my online shop and or you buy it from a streaming site digitally that I record the albums, I do everything in house. I even you know, this week, I've sent out about a thousand albums and I've packaged them all myself.

34:00 Speaker 8: Wow.

34:01 Speaker 4: So it was like a real cottage industry. And that's how I make a living my albums. I have my own home, little studio home set up, and I record most of my albums on my own in my house, so I'm not paying for studio time. Once I've recorded these albums, I use a program drums. I go to a proper studio and work with a producer. And I've used Jason Bold from Bullet for my Valentine for my last albums. He's played drums on my last eight solo albums.

34:31 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, excellent, but yeah so sorry, oh no, go ahead, go ahead. CJ.

34:39 Speaker 4: So the way I survive is by doing d I Y. You know, it's doing it yourself. But if the food Fighters called me and said come on board CJ, you wouldn't You wouldn't be hearing many solo albums.

34:53 Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense?

34:55 Speaker 6: Did uh?

34:56 Speaker 2: Did you always kind of have it in the back of your mind that that you were going to do this diy as as you are today because you mentioned it's kind of it's survival. But there's also something I would think very satisfying, right about having the level of control that you have over everything that you're doing, by having your own label and by doing this all yourself. I would imagine there's there's a certain gratification that comes with that.

35:22 Speaker 9: Or maybe not.

35:22 Speaker 2: Maybe some days, maybe sometimes you have days where you go, I really could use some help here.

35:30 Speaker 4: I feel so freed the way I work. There's no one telling me what to do, how to sound, how to look. It's like going shopping in the mood. You know, I can let whatever I want hang out when wherever I want to, whenever I want to, And that is really it's an amazing feeling having that much control over everything you do, right, But you know it comes at a cost, because yeah, I don't have a big record deal, I don't have a distribution network all over the world. I have a deal in Japan still, which is I'm really grateful for, you know, and this this album has actually come out properly in Japan.

36:09 Speaker 4: You can get it in shops and but as far as the rest of the world is concerned, if you don't come to my store, you won't know who I am. You know, it'd be really hard to track me down, right, And so you know it's I am what's known as a real underground musician.

36:26 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a mold right right. Well, but you're doing it, You're making it work, and that's that's more than a lot of people can can manage to pull off. But obviously all your experience and everything and the you know, the legacy that you've built is helpful with that. And that which kind of leads me to a question about is the song one of the Boys. It feels like it's it's really kind of about looking back and and can you can you tell I love that song and we did open with that, that was our our opening track.

36:51 Speaker 2: As far as the segment goes, can you tell us about that song, And I don't know if I'm reading Sometimes I wonder if I'm reading too much in the lyrics, and they really don't mean as much as whatever my brain tries to assign in terms of lyrics. But it feels like it's about looking back, looking back on success and mistakes and and all of it. Am I am I on the right track with that.

37:13 Speaker 4: It's the song is when I started this album, started the writing process because it wasn't. It was really hard for me to just get going because because of you know, ultimately, when you're a musician, you want you want, you want some level of success. And when you know before you've written a note how many albums you're gonna sell, and that it's going to be a struggle, it's hard to find the motivation. So One of the Boys was was was written from the perspective of an older musician coming to the end of his career, maybe saying goodbye, and then just looking back and say, like, you know, it doesn't matter what you've done, what mistakes you've made, you know, how many big shows, small shows, how many tours you've done.

37:54 Speaker 4: When you look at yourself, you're just one of the boys. One of the lads. You know you're no lets. You know your ego, your size of your car or how small your car is. Our bigger houses, our smaller houses. It doesn't matter, right, stripped back way, You're just blood, guts and bones.

38:11 Speaker 2: Right right. Absolutely, So I'm curious about this. Is this true that you're you're nineteen eighty nine Gibson bb King Lucille guitar is featured in the Punk exhibition at the Gibson Garage and in London?

38:25 Speaker 8: Is that true?

38:26 Speaker 4: It worked? Yeah, So Gibson contacted me and said, we're celebrating fifty years of punk and we really want to have like Lucy my guitar in there. And I was like really, you know, and I was like really flattered, and yeah, we know the guitar is so well known and people know you see you from the Wildhearts and all your other bands and know you know, you're a lot of your solo stuff is very very punk and and it's going to be up there with Captain Sensible's guitar. And then they said Mick Jones and I was like, yep, you can take her, take her, do whatever you want with her.

39:01 Speaker 4: And she was down in London for about a month and it was at the Gibson Garage down in Oxford Street and a lot of people saw it, and Gibson gave me an update and they said a lot of people made a beeline to her because she's such a unique looking, you know, Gibson guitar and they just said, you know, it's such a cool guitar, and yeah, I was really honored. My guitar is actually better known than me, which is brilliant.

39:28 Speaker 2: That's that is wild. Oh that that is so cool. That is so cool. So what's kind of your forward trajectory? And maybe you don't know yet. Obviously the album literally just came out right devil, So do you know where you're going after that? Do you plan to make another solo album? And part of why I ask, is it almost I think you had said somewhere I read that you refer to this album as a possible swan song, but which I find hard to believe. It sounds to me like you've got a lot more music in you. But but do you you know what's next for you after this album?

40:03 Speaker 4: Yeah? I've started the follow up already.

40:05 Speaker 2: Oh good good.

40:07 Speaker 4: One song isn't a fun song anymore? The follow up is called Chalk and I've started compiling the ideas and the songs for that. My artist has already done the cover for it, and yeah, so it's literally I'm not touring in the UK. I've got a Japanese tour in April. I'm looking for some support tours for next year for the UK, But for the rest of the summer and the rest of the fall, I'm heads down working on the next album, Gotcha.

40:37 Speaker 2: Gotcha very good? And is there a theme with the album? You know, we talked about the song one of the Boys, but the album Devil, I mean, is there a theme throughout the album or is it just And I did listen to the whole thing, so I didn't necessarily detect anything specific, but I'm curious from your perspective. It's great, by the way, but I'm curious from your perspective, is there is there kind of a theme or a unif find message to the album.

41:02 Speaker 4: I mean, all my albums I write about what's going on in my life, and a lot of reviewers have picked up on the kind of there's almost like a tinge of bitterness and there's a lot of retrospective sort of soul searching going on in this album, and they're quite right. And the bitterness isn't it's not bitterness, it's more frustration. Yeah, you know, forty odd years of making music, and I see myself here. Although I am in a good place emotionally and spiritually, financially it's a struggle, you know.

41:35 Speaker 4: I'm like a lot of people on this planet, struggling financially. But this album, it covers a lot. There's a lot more songs on here looking back. There's a song called sob called Sad Old Boy, and that's me looking back at the eighties and the nineties. There's also a lot of frustration with the world at the moment. Nine ninety nine is about what's going on in this country at the moment, and it's a song called No More, which is all about the wars and knife crime and stuff is going around the world.

42:03 Speaker 4: I have a very young son. Although I'm almost sixty, my son turns twelve in August, and my constant worry is about the world he is going to inherit when he's a young adult, and I just hope it's better than the planet we're living on right now.

42:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also something very relatable. I think I think a lot of people, especially from our generation. I'm also a gen xer, and I think a lot of our generation kind of feels that way. You know, we're we blame the boomers for for a lot of what we were left with, and then we worry about what. I don't have any kids myself, but we worry about what the what, what the generation that is after us is gonna deal with, and what kind of a world we're leaving for them, and and you know, and that cycle continues.

42:48 Speaker 2: But I think that's relatable. I think a lot of people feel that way, so and that that might be someone of some of what really connected with me about the album, Like I said, I listen to the whole thing. I think it's great. Where does the title come from? Why did you decide to call it devil?

43:03 Speaker 4: A couple of things. I knew it was going to be like a devil of an album to make. And I also have a hot source brand called Devil's Fit. So the artwork of the album is taken from the artwork of my Hot Sauce brand. So the devilhead is the logo for my my Hot Sauce. So it's kind of all connected.

43:26 Speaker 3: Yeah.

43:27 Speaker 4: I've had my own hot Souce brand for about twelve years now and it's based on my mum made hot sauce, So everything's connected. I can't I can't sing about anything or do anything that is connected to my life. It has to. I mean, there's a song on Devil called Fade right at the End, which is about my mum and dad, who both succumbed to dementia Alzheimer's. I had to watch them fade in front of my eyes very slowly over many years, and you know, it was a really hard song to write and sing, but I needed to do something.

44:03 Speaker 4: I needed to immortalize the feeling of love and hate and guilt I felt watching both my parents slowly die in front of my eyes, And to put it into music is a really, really good way of just exercising those feelings and kind of letting them out of you. And that's what I use a lot of my music to do, especially feelings of anger and frustration. I use my songs to let those feelings out. I think it's better I put it into art, into something like that, rather than drinking them away or you know, snorting them away or fighting them away.

44:34 Speaker 4: My way of exercising the beast, the demon is through through my music. So that's why a lot of the subjects on my albums can sometimes be a little bit heavy. But if I write a love song, you know it's going to be about you know, my wife or my child.

44:47 Speaker 2: Now I'm glad to hear you say that too, because that's the subject that comes up a lot on the show. Is how you know, music is such great therapy. And if you anytime that you can take trauma or stress or things that you're worried about, whether it's something that's happened to you or something that you're worried about happening, or whatever it is, whatever is bothering you or in your case, you know, you talked about fade and what that song means witches. You know, I can only imagine what it's like to go through that.

45:14 Speaker 2: But anytime you can take something that's negative and turn it into art, then you're taking something negative and making something positive from it. And not only is that great therapy for you as the person who is creating that art, but it also might help other people who then can enjoy that art and connect with it, and maybe it helps them with what they're going through as well. So I think, uh, I think music is the best, the best therapy that you can whether it's making it or listening to it. It's it's really is the best therapy in my opinion, So.

45:47 Speaker 4: And creative, I agree with you, yeah, one hundred percent. There's most people are the same. It doesn't matter how you wrapped up. You know, the plumber and the Thames, adopted, adopted is the same as the rock star. The rock stars the same as the mechanic. We're all the same underneath, And it doesn't matter what standing you have in life. You could be the billionaire, the millionaire, the plumb on the street, or you just could be a normal, everyday working class dude or woman. And we're all connected by the same stories.

46:17 Speaker 4: We all breathe the same air. People die around us, we can all fall in love, we can all lose something, win something. And if you sing about stuff that is actually happening in your life, there's a good chance that it's happening in billions of other people's lives. So there's always that connection there. So I always sing about or write songs about things that have happened to me, and I always have a lot of people come back at me, not millions, but you know enough saying that they're connected to the songs because it happened to them and they understand where I'm coming from.

46:50 Speaker 4: And you know, for me, that's a really important thing. I won't sing about dragons and wizards and things, nothing about there's I've been wrong with that, but I don't deal in and to see deal in reality right right?

47:03 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Well, CJ Wildheart, this has been wonderful. It's great to have you on the show. We'll definitely do this again in the future, especially as they're going to be releasing new music. And I do want to again thank you for you know, thank you for your flexibility in terms of what platform we use to bring you on.

47:20 Speaker 2: Technology will fail us at times.

47:21 Speaker 4: Go ahead, definitely. Can I just say this, I said it with Devil it's my last album. This next one I'm making could potentially be my last album. When you say it's your last album, people tend to buy more copies of them, So it's a really good strategy to sell more.

47:37 Speaker 8: Else that is true.

47:38 Speaker 2: And it works with touring too. If you say you're going on a farewell tour, you know, and then it works. It works for a lot of Yeah, it's worked for a lot of artists. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, So we will end our conversation with another track from the album Devil. But I not to put you on the spot, but we already we played a bunch of them while I was trying to get the situation worked out with WhatsApp and and and all that. So I would like you to pick what should we what should we play from the album to end the segment.

48:08 Speaker 2: It's just the only stipulation being because we're on terrestrial radio in the United States, can't have any swears in it.

48:14 Speaker 4: But uh uh, the art of being free?

48:19 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what decades Oh excellent, all right, very good, So we'll we'll end with that. So again c J Wildheart. Oh one other thing, where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that you're doing and to buy the album?

48:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you go to uh, it's h CJ. Devil Spit all one word, CJ Devil Spit.

48:42 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I've been to the site, by the way, it's excellent.

48:45 Speaker 12: So I really like that.

48:46 Speaker 2: I'm a website nerd.

48:48 Speaker 4: So a lot of the album, a lot of my albums are sold out now, so it's a good and it's a good place to be selling out.

48:56 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely all right, my friend c J. Wild Heart, we'll let you go. We will hit that track, but we will do it again in the future. And thank you so much for joining us today. This has been wonderful.

49:07 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Matt. All right, you take care, all.

49:10 Speaker 2: Right, you two take care, bye bye, all right. That is c J. Wildheart. The new album with very new just came out, Devil, and let's play this track. Oh wait, which one? I want to make sure, Oh, the art of being free? I want to make sure I play the one that he asked us to play. And again I did listen to the whole thing. It's great. I suggest you check it out, Devil by CJ. Wildheart. And this is called the art of being free.

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