Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-27-26 hour 1

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0:20 Speaker 2: Right now, we have a wm n H ninety five

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0:27 Speaker 2: hear this anywhere else before July third, but we've got

0:30 Speaker 2: it here coming out of New York City, the world

0:33 Speaker 2: radio premiere of the new single from Frequency Overload. This

0:37 Speaker 2: is called Sunburn.

0:39 Speaker 3: You're listening to.

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0:43 Speaker 3: World premiere. Way you when I.

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2:03 Speaker 3: Was no use you know where your thing? Oh? I

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2:44 Speaker 7: I don't know the right.

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2:50 Speaker 5: in any home? What any name myself?

2:53 Speaker 3: And you know what have to wear no age a yeah,

2:57 Speaker 3: my doughter is you who no way you? What about

3:00 Speaker 3: that thing. I think you're old.

3:23 Speaker 5: You no way my friend, and knowing all the mine

3:28 Speaker 5: all wing your way, no way is my.

3:35 Speaker 3: I live when a doll, my doll.

3:59 Speaker 5: Disappears all those years of thirteen and I find a

4:05 Speaker 5: guy his dollars and another man what things for you?

4:09 Speaker 3: When it moved them the bag? And I have kept

4:13 Speaker 3: my on it that I was not for guy.

4:16 Speaker 7: It's got to.

4:17 Speaker 8: Flicks something, man, there it is.

5:30 Speaker 2: That is the world radio premiere of Sunburn from the

5:33 Speaker 2: band Frequency Overload. Our friends from those are some real

5:38 Speaker 2: New Yorkers there, But we had Frequency Overload on the

5:40 Speaker 2: show very recently. Was it last week or the week before?

5:43 Speaker 2: It all becomes a blur of my friends. I have

5:45 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But because we talked to

5:47 Speaker 2: so many great musicians on the show, but really like

5:49 Speaker 2: those guys a lot. So Thomas Bush from Frequency Overload

5:53 Speaker 2: sent me that song and you know he's he was

5:56 Speaker 2: telling me about and it's his story to tell what

5:59 Speaker 2: I'd like to do, even though he just had them

6:00 Speaker 2: on the show. And if Thomas is listening hear me

6:04 Speaker 2: say this, I'd like to get him on the show,

6:08 Speaker 2: like sooner rather than later, just to talk about Sunburn specifically,

6:11 Speaker 2: maybe just a short follow up conversation about that, because

6:14 Speaker 2: he was saying that it has a lot of deep

6:15 Speaker 2: meaning to him, and it's a little bit different from

6:17 Speaker 2: the other Frequency Overload songs too, a little bit of

6:20 Speaker 2: a departure for them. But this song, again, it's his

6:22 Speaker 2: story to tell, but he did tell me some things

6:25 Speaker 2: about it. It has a lot of a deep personal

6:27 Speaker 2: meaning to him. But it's coming out July third, but

6:29 Speaker 2: he said that we could go ahead and do the

6:32 Speaker 2: exclusive world radio premiere for it right here on Matt

6:35 Speaker 2: Connerton Unleashed on WMNH ninety five point three FM. So

6:39 Speaker 2: very honored that he let us do that, especially knowing

6:42 Speaker 2: what the song means to him. I thought that was

6:44 Speaker 2: very very cool that he gave us that opportunity to

6:47 Speaker 2: so you literally heard it here first. So again sunburned

6:51 Speaker 2: by the band Frequency Overload. And yeah, we'll get Thomas

6:55 Speaker 2: on soon back on to talk about that song, you know,

6:57 Speaker 2: if he's willing, if he's able, and if he's got

7:00 Speaker 2: time in his schedule. But yeah, such a great band

7:03 Speaker 2: from New York City. Again, Frequency Overload. Please check him out,

7:06 Speaker 2: and you can, of course check out my conversation with

7:09 Speaker 2: the band on the show recently. I think it was

7:11 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Again, it does become a blur.

7:14 Speaker 2: We've got a great but very busy show for you today.

7:17 Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we're gonna be talking to

7:19 Speaker 2: c J. Wildheart. He's a legend. Cannot wait to talk

7:22 Speaker 2: with him. We're gonna play his brand new single One

7:24 Speaker 2: of the Boys, and then we're gonna get CJ. Wildheart

7:26 Speaker 2: on with us via WhatsApp in the second hour. Julia

7:29 Speaker 2: Greenberg is gonna be with us on the show. In

7:32 Speaker 2: the third hour. We've got two bands. We've got Despire

7:37 Speaker 2: in the first half of the third hour, and then

7:39 Speaker 2: we've got The Rift in the second half of the

7:41 Speaker 2: third hour. To get all that. So we've got a

7:45 Speaker 2: very busy show, ad which is how I like it.

7:46 Speaker 2: I organize the busy show. But this is Matt Connorton Unleashed.

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8:01 Speaker 2: so it is wonderful. This is my favorite time of

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8:54 Speaker 2: so speaking of our live feed, a couple of announcements.

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9:11 Speaker 2: specifically coming up today immediately after my show. My show

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9:24 Speaker 2: can hear the Big G Breakthrough Hour. And what that

9:28 Speaker 2: is is a new syndicated radio show from our friends

9:30 Speaker 2: at Big G'SPR. They send us our Big GPR, they

9:34 Speaker 2: send us a lot of our guests. We get a

9:36 Speaker 2: lot of great guests and a lot of our world

9:38 Speaker 2: radio premieres come from there. Our friends Gary and Eden

9:42 Speaker 2: from Big GPR, so we have a great relationship with them,

9:46 Speaker 2: love the new show. So it's not yet here at WMNH.

9:51 Speaker 2: I would like to get the show on WMNH, and

9:53 Speaker 2: I did pitch the show to management here. I haven't

9:56 Speaker 2: been given an answer, so hopefully we can. I think

9:58 Speaker 2: it would be a great addition to the lineup here.

10:00 Speaker 2: But you can hear the show again if you go

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10:07 Speaker 2: you will be able to hear the show there immediately

10:10 Speaker 2: after this show today, only on that stream specifically. But

10:14 Speaker 2: I'm very happy to help with that. Spread the word.

10:17 Speaker 2: They've got a great show and it's already been picked

10:21 Speaker 2: up by quite a few stations. But like I said,

10:23 Speaker 2: I'm hoping to add WM ANDH to that list, but

10:26 Speaker 2: it's not up to me. But I did pitch it

10:28 Speaker 2: and I will follow up so but again Big GPR.

10:30 Speaker 2: But if you go to Matt connorton dot com slash live,

10:33 Speaker 2: if you're listening to this show there right now, well

10:37 Speaker 2: when it gets to be noontime, don't go away, just

10:39 Speaker 2: leave it going. You'll get to hear the new show

10:41 Speaker 2: from Big GPR called The Big G Breakthrough Hour, and

10:46 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear a lot of really good stuff new artists,

10:48 Speaker 2: some of them. Some of them might be artists that

10:50 Speaker 2: you've heard on this show, but a lot of them

10:53 Speaker 2: will be artists who you might hear in the future

10:55 Speaker 2: on this show. And just a lot of really great stuff.

10:58 Speaker 2: The other very quicknouncement, and again I do have to

11:01 Speaker 2: do this quickly. Tough Bumps if you're a fan of

11:04 Speaker 2: the Tough Bumps podcast, which has no affiliation with WMNH.

11:08 Speaker 2: That is strictly online. That is an online endeavor that

11:12 Speaker 2: I do that every week of course, with my friends

11:14 Speaker 2: Eric Pilcher and Austin Hicks. That's been on a little

11:16 Speaker 2: bit of a hiatus for a couple of weeks. We

11:18 Speaker 2: took a couple of weeks off. That does return tomorrow

11:21 Speaker 2: Sunday at four pm Eastern, as far as I know,

11:24 Speaker 2: it's still going to be at four pm Eastern. But

11:26 Speaker 2: Tough Bumps is back. Of course, today we have the

11:29 Speaker 2: Night of Champions WWE premium live event, so we'll be

11:34 Speaker 2: talking about that tomorrow night on Tough Bumps or tomorrow afternoon.

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12:03 Speaker 2: will be back. I may have a third announcement soon,

12:05 Speaker 2: but the I'm waiting to get a reply on an email.

12:10 Speaker 2: But the third announcement I'm gonna have for you guys

12:13 Speaker 2: is really interesting. We'll see. I think the only one

12:17 Speaker 2: who really knows about what might be about to happen,

12:20 Speaker 2: is Jenny. I haven't said anything to anyone else because

12:23 Speaker 2: I don't want to until I know if it's definitely happening,

12:26 Speaker 2: but something there might be an interesting turn of events coming. Yeah,

12:35 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to be so vague. Anyway, on with the

12:37 Speaker 2: show we go. So we're gonna get again our first

12:39 Speaker 2: guest today we have a very busy show. CJ. Wildheart

12:42 Speaker 2: is going to be joining us via WhatsApp, but right

12:44 Speaker 2: now we're gonna go ahead and play his newest single,

12:47 Speaker 2: I love this. This is so good, it's so catchy.

12:50 Speaker 2: This is from his new album Devil. This is called

12:53 Speaker 2: one of the Boys from the Great CJ. Wildheart.

13:18 Speaker 3: I just got outside the question road.

13:21 Speaker 2: I want another life.

13:24 Speaker 3: When I saw that time again on No Fing, I

13:30 Speaker 3: just play a hundred those body where A change a

13:34 Speaker 3: big part of the road out walks where I have

13:38 Speaker 3: the thing. Oh my god, I can't even mean growing

13:45 Speaker 3: all the way. Oh when Dragon start came back? When

13:54 Speaker 3: I am I can not change the dolly when the

13:58 Speaker 3: calls out.

14:00 Speaker 6: As one of the boys, what's the bat sun sense I?

14:17 Speaker 6: I told about the right when I went to the door,

14:22 Speaker 6: A new last to blame.

14:25 Speaker 3: I just Plassic pol restaurant. Gun, I start to buy

14:29 Speaker 3: us from my job. When I changed the bag, I

14:33 Speaker 3: got in it. Also, I can't me throw it all

14:41 Speaker 3: way when I get stuck, I can bam what I

14:51 Speaker 3: can I change the boy when I turns I'm trusting

14:56 Speaker 3: one of the boys. Oh, I did anything brown all

15:26 Speaker 3: the way? I try at.

15:34 Speaker 9: What I am?

15:35 Speaker 3: I can I change a dolly?

15:38 Speaker 6: Wa gotcha?

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15:41 Speaker 7: The way up follows I'm chod, Hey, everybody, Well, wouldn't

15:53 Speaker 7: be Saturday without a technical problem.

15:55 Speaker 2: WhatsApp just crashed on me. So c J is aware

15:58 Speaker 2: of the problem, and we're to go ahead and play

16:00 Speaker 2: another great track from our friends c J Wildheart will

16:04 Speaker 2: uh while I get WhatsApp restarted. This one's called Oh

16:08 Speaker 2: this is a great song to at least he's got

16:09 Speaker 2: a lot of great tunes. This is called you got

16:11 Speaker 2: the best part of me? Check this out?

16:43 Speaker 3: What is gone? You want to raising today? What I can't?

17:05 Speaker 3: I won't have a yeah, yeah, the best I had

17:15 Speaker 3: the best UDEO, you got the best. We can't in

17:34 Speaker 3: your whel we can't in your ride fails. And keep

17:39 Speaker 3: inside what you need to clue.

17:45 Speaker 1: We're win it.

17:46 Speaker 3: Then it's like get up the bump, get up dream. Yeah,

17:53 Speaker 3: I want reason you you j's like you myself, Yes

18:10 Speaker 3: you have that's not me. I got spot you. He

18:15 Speaker 3: got the guys like.

18:19 Speaker 10: Kill.

18:45 Speaker 3: That's not me.

18:47 Speaker 10: I have spot you.

18:50 Speaker 3: He got the guys like job. I see you at

19:25 Speaker 3: the Barron in the stress. I said, been after night

19:28 Speaker 3: a whole way this taking had. Let's being some time.

19:35 Speaker 4: I kill myself.

19:36 Speaker 3: I there to guarantee. I feel like it will never

19:39 Speaker 3: bother me. Scream a puppy by I come up on that.

19:49 Speaker 3: I want to scream the shop. When I see got

19:52 Speaker 3: the g I'm down, You're crazy? Say why sujas sleep,

20:12 Speaker 3: shot up shop? Oh my days and now my John's

20:30 Speaker 3: hopping hit the bar. I left my senses at the

20:34 Speaker 3: tar ChEls teas in die till something tonight, and then

20:40 Speaker 3: I come alive. I play the scene like in the movies.

20:44 Speaker 3: I'm playing name Brown number dead, like under a Bye trast.

20:53 Speaker 3: I want to screen the show. Wait scene chest I said,

21:06 Speaker 3: what say what soundings I say and suns shop. I

21:26 Speaker 3: start my guy.

21:59 Speaker 2: This guy, Hey everybody. So here's an update. WhatsApp has

22:24 Speaker 2: just restricted my account and is accusing me of spam

22:30 Speaker 2: and my account is restricted for the next five hours.

22:34 Speaker 2: This is something. This is unusual. Okay, So I am communicating,

22:38 Speaker 2: so I'm still able to message with CJ. CJ Wildheart

22:42 Speaker 2: via WhatsApp. I just can't make a call. So here's

22:45 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna send him a link

22:48 Speaker 2: for Microsoft Teams and we're gonna try it that way.

22:52 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, let's play some more from his

22:55 Speaker 2: album Devil and we're gonna we're gonna try this.

23:12 Speaker 3: God st right outspread an explications, get to the right

23:23 Speaker 3: track to get quae change said day. Listen the morning.

23:42 Speaker 3: Somebody t say time day day, some FDA, no long, Friday,

23:50 Speaker 3: no long. We're going to guys, want to stay strong?

24:08 Speaker 3: You would have been strong? Who wanting to take it out?

24:18 Speaker 3: Trying to train you? When s somebody I can't say

24:35 Speaker 3: what it tells you wouldn't write any write another.

24:47 Speaker 2: Watch all right? What a relief crisis averted. I think

25:27 Speaker 2: let me bring this up here. I think we've got

25:30 Speaker 2: c J Wildheart with us via Microsoft Team.

25:32 Speaker 8: CJ.

25:32 Speaker 2: Are you there, I am, yes, Oh, wonderful, wonderful, Thank

25:37 Speaker 2: you for your flexibility. We are live on the air,

25:40 Speaker 2: and I'm really glad to get John because I've been

25:42 Speaker 2: dying to talk to you, and we you know, you

25:45 Speaker 2: are here to experience a first here on Matt Connorton

25:49 Speaker 2: on Leafsed. I've never had WhatsApp crash on me like that.

25:52 Speaker 2: And then apparently WhatsApp has restricted my account. They are

25:55 Speaker 2: accusing me of spam, which is very very strange. So

25:58 Speaker 2: thank you for being flexible and welcome to the show.

26:03 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's probably my fault you've

26:05 Speaker 4: been banned from WhatsApp.

26:08 Speaker 2: You're gonna take the blame for that. Well, that's very

26:10 Speaker 2: generous of you.

26:10 Speaker 11: Thank you.

26:12 Speaker 2: My reputation for it does that's funny. Well listen, so

26:17 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. I love that song, you know.

26:19 Speaker 2: We did open with the single One of the Boys,

26:22 Speaker 2: such a great track. And but you you've been at

26:25 Speaker 2: this for a while, and of course you've got the

26:28 Speaker 2: new album Devil or how long? How is now new

26:30 Speaker 2: is Devil? At this point I should say how long

26:32 Speaker 2: has this been out? This is pretty new, is it?

26:35 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean the official release was yesterday.

26:39 Speaker 2: Oh wow.

26:42 Speaker 4: I run my online store so I do pre orders.

26:45 Speaker 4: So most people who bought it on vinyl which you

26:48 Speaker 4: sold that now and CDs have received. You know, they

26:52 Speaker 4: received their vinyl and the CDs a week or so

26:55 Speaker 4: before the album officially came out. But we we ran

26:58 Speaker 4: into a glitch yesterday, so it isn't up on all

27:01 Speaker 4: the usual streaming sights at the moment, so oh okay,

27:05 Speaker 4: trying to sort that out. It's just up on band

27:07 Speaker 4: camp digitally, but you know, it's it's the way of

27:12 Speaker 4: the soul trader, the entrepreneurial punk rock musician these days.

27:17 Speaker 4: You know, you get your music out there by any

27:20 Speaker 4: means possible.

27:22 Speaker 2: Exactly, absolutely. And band Camp, by the way, you know,

27:25 Speaker 2: this comes up a lot on the show. Band Camp

27:27 Speaker 2: is such a great site because it's very artist friendly,

27:29 Speaker 2: as you know, and also too, when you get your

27:32 Speaker 2: music from band camp, you get the highest quality file

27:34 Speaker 2: that you can get. It's it's not like you know,

27:37 Speaker 2: just streaming it from YouTube or whatnot, which is fine,

27:39 Speaker 2: but band Camp really does you right, you know, in

27:42 Speaker 2: terms of the quality of the file that you're getting

27:44 Speaker 2: when you buy your music on band Camp. And of course,

27:46 Speaker 2: like I said, very artist friendly. So so that's excellent

27:49 Speaker 2: that you're you know that you've got it up on

27:50 Speaker 2: there can can you talk about you know, because you

27:55 Speaker 2: you mentioned, uh, you kind of alluded to some of

27:57 Speaker 2: the challenges obviously that that it can happen to an

28:01 Speaker 2: independent artist. And I was reading something about how this

28:05 Speaker 2: album nearly didn't happen because you were kind of struggling

28:10 Speaker 2: to sort of figure out how to navigate through the

28:14 Speaker 2: current industry and some of the challenges that come with it.

28:17 Speaker 2: Is that true?

28:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of it. I'll be honest

28:20 Speaker 4: with you. I mean, I've been I'm fifty eight now,

28:23 Speaker 4: and i've been you know, I signed my first record

28:26 Speaker 4: deal when I was eighteen, so that's like, you know,

28:28 Speaker 4: forty years ago, and you know, I'm Generation X and

28:33 Speaker 4: I've gone through the whole change from Analog to Digitol,

28:36 Speaker 4: and so much has changed in the music industry. But

28:39 Speaker 4: you know, my time was the nineties. That was my

28:41 Speaker 4: time when I had a huge record deals with massive corporations.

28:45 Speaker 4: And if I hadn't had those big record deals, I

28:47 Speaker 4: wouldn't be talking to you today. You know, because I

28:50 Speaker 4: sell predominantly to a fan base that was started in

28:54 Speaker 4: the nineties. They ate it. And the problem with my

28:58 Speaker 4: fan base is they're getting older. A lot of them

29:00 Speaker 4: are dying off. A lot of them don't buy physical

29:02 Speaker 4: music anymore. And I make a living from selling physical music,

29:06 Speaker 4: not digital music. See these vinyl t shirts. And when

29:12 Speaker 4: your fan base is getting smaller, you start making less

29:18 Speaker 4: and less money, and so it gets harder each year

29:21 Speaker 4: to you know, call this a job, call it a living.

29:23 Speaker 4: But it's all I've done all my life, you know,

29:26 Speaker 4: I haven't. You know, I've never ran a day job

29:29 Speaker 4: alongside the music. Music has always been my day job.

29:32 Speaker 4: And on this album, I kind of knew how much

29:35 Speaker 4: I was going to sell, and I knew it was

29:37 Speaker 4: going to take me about six months to make I

29:39 Speaker 4: record mostly on my own, and I was thinking, Wow,

29:42 Speaker 4: am I doing this? I would probably earn more money

29:44 Speaker 4: put in the fries in the bag, you know what

29:46 Speaker 4: I mean?

29:48 Speaker 2: Understood, It is challenging, and obviously, you know, you've been

29:51 Speaker 2: around long enough that you've seen all of the changes

29:54 Speaker 2: in the music industry over the years. And it is

29:56 Speaker 2: true too. You know, you make money on merchant things

29:58 Speaker 2: like that and physical media, but in terms of what

30:03 Speaker 2: you're putting out digitally, you know, obviously we talked about

30:06 Speaker 2: it on the show a lot. Spotify doesn't pay very

30:07 Speaker 2: much it's it's hard, you know, it's it's hard to

30:11 Speaker 2: make a living. A lot of people don't realize that,

30:13 Speaker 2: you know. They think that if you're a musician and

30:15 Speaker 2: you're active, that you're in a mansion and you're driving

30:17 Speaker 2: a sports car and you know, you're flying a private

30:20 Speaker 2: jet everywhere, and it's, uh, it's not how it works.

30:23 Speaker 11: It is.

30:24 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be really honest with you. I had

30:26 Speaker 4: to sell the mansion in the private jet. Yeah, I

30:29 Speaker 4: travel in most places by hot air balloon. Now they

30:32 Speaker 4: go the way we roll in England. Had to get

30:35 Speaker 4: rid of the carton as well.

30:36 Speaker 11: You know.

30:37 Speaker 4: Sure, times are.

30:38 Speaker 2: Hard times, absolutely absolutely, And this is Your Devil is

30:42 Speaker 2: your eighth solo album? Is that right?

30:44 Speaker 3: It is?

30:45 Speaker 4: I mean it's my eighth studio solo studio album. I

30:48 Speaker 4: have a I put out a live album as well,

30:51 Speaker 4: and I had a best of album where I re

30:53 Speaker 4: recorded fifteen of the old tracks as well. So on

30:57 Speaker 4: my label it's album number ten. And I have two

31:01 Speaker 4: unofficial demo albums as well, so technically it's album number twelve.

31:06 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, you've been busy now. Originally, so

31:11 Speaker 2: when you first when you first signed your Wow, eighteen, right,

31:15 Speaker 2: So was that with the Wildhearts when you signed your

31:18 Speaker 2: first deal?

31:20 Speaker 3: No, No.

31:20 Speaker 4: I used to have a glam sleazy band called the

31:23 Speaker 4: Tattooed love Boys in the eighties and it was the

31:26 Speaker 4: band that kind of got me into London and got

31:29 Speaker 4: me on the London scene. And we were signed to

31:31 Speaker 4: a subsidiary of RCA and I made an album with them.

31:37 Speaker 4: But I was gigging heavily with that band in the

31:41 Speaker 4: late eighties round you know, in the UK sort of

31:44 Speaker 4: rock scene. And it's how me and Ginger met. I

31:48 Speaker 4: was playing a club in London and a mutual friend

31:51 Speaker 4: of ours Boredom along and you know, from that initial

31:55 Speaker 4: meeting we said, yeah, let's form a band together. And

31:57 Speaker 4: that band was the Wildharts.

31:59 Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha. So with the original deal with RCA,

32:03 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, what was your output on that deal

32:08 Speaker 2: with the first band that you had. I mean was

32:10 Speaker 2: that because sometimes, and this is another thing that people

32:13 Speaker 2: outside the industry don't realize, just because you signed with

32:15 Speaker 2: the label doesn't mean that the label is necessarily going

32:18 Speaker 2: to actually release your music and that you're going to

32:19 Speaker 2: you know, immediately have a lot of success and whatnot.

32:21 Speaker 2: I mean, what was that experience like with that first deal?

32:25 Speaker 3: Was it was good?

32:25 Speaker 4: I mean the album came out in the States, but

32:27 Speaker 4: we never made it over to America. And I mean,

32:31 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, from the ages of about

32:35 Speaker 4: say eleven, until I was twenty, I went through various

32:39 Speaker 4: scenes very quickly. So I went from being into heavy

32:42 Speaker 4: metal to being into sleeves well to be in for

32:46 Speaker 4: fresh metal, and I was into sleeves for a couple

32:49 Speaker 4: of months, and ultimately I landed in punk. You know,

32:52 Speaker 4: punk is where I've always stayed, but it was a

32:56 Speaker 4: real learning curve those formative teenage years and just find

33:00 Speaker 4: I mean, where I felt comfortable because I've loved I

33:02 Speaker 4: love all sorts of music, and especially guitar music, and

33:06 Speaker 4: you know, I had to go through I had to

33:08 Speaker 4: be in like a kind of glammy sleeves band to

33:11 Speaker 4: get to the clash place where I feel most comfortable.

33:15 Speaker 2: Right now, that makes sense, uh, do you? I mean

33:19 Speaker 2: ideally you've released so many albums as a solo artist.

33:22 Speaker 2: I assume that's what your preference is at this point,

33:26 Speaker 2: Like have you thought about have you thought about starting

33:28 Speaker 2: another band or joining a band or are you is

33:31 Speaker 2: this kind of the trajectory that you intend to stay

33:33 Speaker 2: on in terms of having a solo career.

33:36 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's purely survival. So I run my

33:39 Speaker 4: own label and everything I release as a solo artist

33:42 Speaker 4: comes out of my own own label. But you won't

33:44 Speaker 4: get it in the shop. You have to buy it

33:45 Speaker 4: from my online shop and or you buy it from

33:48 Speaker 4: a streaming site digitally that I record the albums, I

33:53 Speaker 4: do everything in house. I even you know, this week,

33:56 Speaker 4: I've sent out about a thousand albums and I've packaged

33:59 Speaker 4: them all myself.

34:00 Speaker 8: Wow.

34:01 Speaker 4: So it was like a real cottage industry. And that's

34:05 Speaker 4: how I make a living my albums. I have my

34:07 Speaker 4: own home, little studio home set up, and I record

34:11 Speaker 4: most of my albums on my own in my house,

34:14 Speaker 4: so I'm not paying for studio time. Once I've recorded

34:19 Speaker 4: these albums, I use a program drums. I go to

34:21 Speaker 4: a proper studio and work with a producer. And I've

34:24 Speaker 4: used Jason Bold from Bullet for my Valentine for my

34:27 Speaker 4: last albums. He's played drums on my last eight solo albums.

34:31 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, okay, excellent, but yeah so sorry, oh no,

34:36 Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead. CJ.

34:39 Speaker 4: So the way I survive is by doing d I Y.

34:43 Speaker 4: You know, it's doing it yourself. But if the food

34:45 Speaker 4: Fighters called me and said come on board CJ, you

34:48 Speaker 4: wouldn't You wouldn't be hearing many solo albums.

34:53 Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense?

34:55 Speaker 6: Did uh?

34:56 Speaker 2: Did you always kind of have it in the back

34:58 Speaker 2: of your mind that that you were going to do

35:00 Speaker 2: this diy as as you are today because you mentioned

35:05 Speaker 2: it's kind of it's survival. But there's also something I

35:09 Speaker 2: would think very satisfying, right about having the level of

35:13 Speaker 2: control that you have over everything that you're doing, by

35:16 Speaker 2: having your own label and by doing this all yourself.

35:18 Speaker 2: I would imagine there's there's a certain gratification that comes

35:21 Speaker 2: with that.

35:22 Speaker 9: Or maybe not.

35:22 Speaker 2: Maybe some days, maybe sometimes you have days where you go,

35:26 Speaker 2: I really could use some help here.

35:30 Speaker 4: I feel so freed the way I work. There's no

35:35 Speaker 4: one telling me what to do, how to sound, how

35:37 Speaker 4: to look. It's like going shopping in the mood. You know,

35:40 Speaker 4: I can let whatever I want hang out when wherever

35:43 Speaker 4: I want to, whenever I want to, And that is

35:47 Speaker 4: really it's an amazing feeling having that much control over

35:52 Speaker 4: everything you do, right, But you know it comes at

35:56 Speaker 4: a cost, because yeah, I don't have a big record deal,

35:59 Speaker 4: I don't have a distribution network all over the world.

36:02 Speaker 4: I have a deal in Japan still, which is I'm

36:04 Speaker 4: really grateful for, you know, and this this album has

36:07 Speaker 4: actually come out properly in Japan. You can get it

36:10 Speaker 4: in shops and but as far as the rest of

36:13 Speaker 4: the world is concerned, if you don't come to my store,

36:16 Speaker 4: you won't know who I am. You know, it'd be

36:18 Speaker 4: really hard to track me down, right, And so you

36:22 Speaker 4: know it's I am what's known as a real underground musician.

36:26 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a mold right right. Well, but you're

36:29 Speaker 2: doing it, You're making it work, and that's that's more

36:32 Speaker 2: than a lot of people can can manage to pull off.

36:35 Speaker 2: But obviously all your experience and everything and the you know,

36:37 Speaker 2: the legacy that you've built is helpful with that. And

36:40 Speaker 2: that which kind of leads me to a question about

36:42 Speaker 2: is the song one of the Boys. It feels like

36:44 Speaker 2: it's it's really kind of about looking back and and

36:47 Speaker 2: can you can you tell I love that song and

36:49 Speaker 2: we did open with that, that was our our opening track.

36:51 Speaker 2: As far as the segment goes, can you tell us

36:53 Speaker 2: about that song, And I don't know if I'm reading

36:55 Speaker 2: Sometimes I wonder if I'm reading too much in the lyrics,

36:57 Speaker 2: and they really don't mean as much as whatever my

37:00 Speaker 2: brain tries to assign in terms of lyrics. But it

37:04 Speaker 2: feels like it's about looking back, looking back on success

37:07 Speaker 2: and mistakes and and all of it. Am I am

37:09 Speaker 2: I on the right track with that.

37:13 Speaker 4: It's the song is when I started this album, started

37:17 Speaker 4: the writing process because it wasn't. It was really hard

37:21 Speaker 4: for me to just get going because because of you know, ultimately,

37:25 Speaker 4: when you're a musician, you want you want, you want

37:27 Speaker 4: some level of success. And when you know before you've

37:30 Speaker 4: written a note how many albums you're gonna sell, and

37:33 Speaker 4: that it's going to be a struggle, it's hard to

37:35 Speaker 4: find the motivation. So One of the Boys was was

37:38 Speaker 4: was written from the perspective of an older musician coming

37:41 Speaker 4: to the end of his career, maybe saying goodbye, and

37:45 Speaker 4: then just looking back and say, like, you know, it

37:47 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you've done, what mistakes you've made, you know,

37:50 Speaker 4: how many big shows, small shows, how many tours you've done.

37:54 Speaker 4: When you look at yourself, you're just one of the boys.

37:57 Speaker 4: One of the lads. You know you're no lets. You

38:00 Speaker 4: know your ego, your size of your car or how

38:02 Speaker 4: small your car is. Our bigger houses, our smaller houses.

38:05 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, right, stripped back way, You're just blood,

38:10 Speaker 4: guts and bones.

38:11 Speaker 2: Right right. Absolutely, So I'm curious about this. Is this

38:16 Speaker 2: true that you're you're nineteen eighty nine Gibson bb King

38:19 Speaker 2: Lucille guitar is featured in the Punk exhibition at the

38:23 Speaker 2: Gibson Garage and in London?

38:25 Speaker 8: Is that true?

38:26 Speaker 4: It worked? Yeah, So Gibson contacted me and said, we're

38:31 Speaker 4: celebrating fifty years of punk and we really want to

38:34 Speaker 4: have like Lucy my guitar in there. And I was

38:37 Speaker 4: like really, you know, and I was like really flattered,

38:40 Speaker 4: and yeah, we know the guitar is so well known

38:43 Speaker 4: and people know you see you from the Wildhearts and

38:46 Speaker 4: all your other bands and know you know, you're a

38:49 Speaker 4: lot of your solo stuff is very very punk and

38:52 Speaker 4: and it's going to be up there with Captain Sensible's guitar.

38:55 Speaker 4: And then they said Mick Jones and I was like, yep,

38:58 Speaker 4: you can take her, take her, do whatever you want

39:00 Speaker 4: with her. And she was down in London for about

39:02 Speaker 4: a month and it was at the Gibson Garage down

39:05 Speaker 4: in Oxford Street and a lot of people saw it,

39:08 Speaker 4: and Gibson gave me an update and they said a

39:12 Speaker 4: lot of people made a beeline to her because she's

39:16 Speaker 4: such a unique looking, you know, Gibson guitar and they

39:20 Speaker 4: just said, you know, it's such a cool guitar, and yeah,

39:22 Speaker 4: I was really honored. My guitar is actually better known

39:26 Speaker 4: than me, which is brilliant.

39:28 Speaker 2: That's that is wild. Oh that that is so cool.

39:32 Speaker 2: That is so cool. So what's kind of your forward trajectory?

39:37 Speaker 2: And maybe you don't know yet. Obviously the album literally

39:40 Speaker 2: just came out right devil, So do you know where

39:44 Speaker 2: you're going after that? Do you plan to make another

39:46 Speaker 2: solo album? And part of why I ask, is it

39:49 Speaker 2: almost I think you had said somewhere I read that

39:52 Speaker 2: you refer to this album as a possible swan song,

39:55 Speaker 2: but which I find hard to believe. It sounds to

39:57 Speaker 2: me like you've got a lot more music in you.

39:59 Speaker 2: But but do you you know what's next for you

40:01 Speaker 2: after this album?

40:03 Speaker 4: Yeah? I've started the follow up already.

40:05 Speaker 2: Oh good good.

40:07 Speaker 4: One song isn't a fun song anymore? The follow up

40:10 Speaker 4: is called Chalk and I've started compiling the ideas and

40:15 Speaker 4: the songs for that. My artist has already done the

40:18 Speaker 4: cover for it, and yeah, so it's literally I'm not

40:22 Speaker 4: touring in the UK. I've got a Japanese tour in April.

40:26 Speaker 4: I'm looking for some support tours for next year for

40:28 Speaker 4: the UK, But for the rest of the summer and

40:32 Speaker 4: the rest of the fall, I'm heads down working on

40:35 Speaker 4: the next album, Gotcha.

40:37 Speaker 2: Gotcha very good? And is there a theme with the album?

40:41 Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the song one of the Boys,

40:43 Speaker 2: but the album Devil, I mean, is there a theme

40:47 Speaker 2: throughout the album or is it just And I did

40:50 Speaker 2: listen to the whole thing, so I didn't necessarily detect

40:52 Speaker 2: anything specific, but I'm curious from your perspective. It's great,

40:55 Speaker 2: by the way, but I'm curious from your perspective, is

40:57 Speaker 2: there is there kind of a theme or a unif

41:00 Speaker 2: find message to the album.

41:02 Speaker 4: I mean, all my albums I write about what's going

41:05 Speaker 4: on in my life, and a lot of reviewers have

41:09 Speaker 4: picked up on the kind of there's almost like a

41:12 Speaker 4: tinge of bitterness and there's a lot of retrospective sort

41:17 Speaker 4: of soul searching going on in this album, and they're

41:19 Speaker 4: quite right. And the bitterness isn't it's not bitterness, it's

41:22 Speaker 4: more frustration. Yeah, you know, forty odd years of making music,

41:27 Speaker 4: and I see myself here. Although I am in a

41:30 Speaker 4: good place emotionally and spiritually, financially it's a struggle, you know.

41:35 Speaker 4: I'm like a lot of people on this planet, struggling financially.

41:39 Speaker 4: But this album, it covers a lot. There's a lot

41:43 Speaker 4: more songs on here looking back. There's a song called

41:46 Speaker 4: sob called Sad Old Boy, and that's me looking back

41:49 Speaker 4: at the eighties and the nineties. There's also a lot

41:52 Speaker 4: of frustration with the world at the moment. Nine ninety

41:55 Speaker 4: nine is about what's going on in this country at

41:57 Speaker 4: the moment, and it's a song called No More, which

41:59 Speaker 4: is all about the wars and knife crime and stuff

42:02 Speaker 4: is going around the world. I have a very young son.

42:04 Speaker 4: Although I'm almost sixty, my son turns twelve in August,

42:09 Speaker 4: and my constant worry is about the world he is

42:13 Speaker 4: going to inherit when he's a young adult, and I

42:16 Speaker 4: just hope it's better than the planet we're living on

42:19 Speaker 4: right now.

42:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also something very relatable. I think I think

42:24 Speaker 2: a lot of people, especially from our generation. I'm also

42:26 Speaker 2: a gen xer, and I think a lot of our

42:28 Speaker 2: generation kind of feels that way. You know, we're we

42:32 Speaker 2: blame the boomers for for a lot of what we

42:35 Speaker 2: were left with, and then we worry about what. I

42:37 Speaker 2: don't have any kids myself, but we worry about what

42:39 Speaker 2: the what, what the generation that is after us is

42:42 Speaker 2: gonna deal with, and what kind of a world we're

42:45 Speaker 2: leaving for them, and and you know, and that cycle continues.

42:48 Speaker 2: But I think that's relatable. I think a lot of

42:50 Speaker 2: people feel that way, so and that that might be

42:55 Speaker 2: someone of some of what really connected with me about

42:57 Speaker 2: the album, Like I said, I listen to the whole thing.

42:58 Speaker 2: I think it's great. Where does the title come from?

43:00 Speaker 2: Why did you decide to call it devil?

43:03 Speaker 4: A couple of things. I knew it was going to

43:05 Speaker 4: be like a devil of an album to make. And

43:08 Speaker 4: I also have a hot source brand called Devil's Fit.

43:12 Speaker 4: So the artwork of the album is taken from the

43:18 Speaker 4: artwork of my Hot Sauce brand. So the devilhead is

43:22 Speaker 4: the logo for my my Hot Sauce. So it's kind

43:25 Speaker 4: of all connected.

43:26 Speaker 3: Yeah.

43:27 Speaker 4: I've had my own hot Souce brand for about twelve

43:30 Speaker 4: years now and it's based on my mum made hot sauce,

43:34 Speaker 4: So everything's connected. I can't I can't sing about anything

43:39 Speaker 4: or do anything that is connected to my life. It

43:42 Speaker 4: has to. I mean, there's a song on Devil called

43:45 Speaker 4: Fade right at the End, which is about my mum

43:47 Speaker 4: and dad, who both succumbed to dementia Alzheimer's. I had

43:52 Speaker 4: to watch them fade in front of my eyes very

43:56 Speaker 4: slowly over many years, and you know, it was a

43:59 Speaker 4: really hard song to write and sing, but I needed

44:02 Speaker 4: to do something. I needed to immortalize the feeling of

44:05 Speaker 4: love and hate and guilt I felt watching both my

44:08 Speaker 4: parents slowly die in front of my eyes, And to

44:10 Speaker 4: put it into music is a really, really good way

44:13 Speaker 4: of just exercising those feelings and kind of letting them

44:16 Speaker 4: out of you. And that's what I use a lot

44:18 Speaker 4: of my music to do, especially feelings of anger and frustration.

44:22 Speaker 4: I use my songs to let those feelings out. I

44:25 Speaker 4: think it's better I put it into art, into something

44:29 Speaker 4: like that, rather than drinking them away or you know,

44:31 Speaker 4: snorting them away or fighting them away. My way of

44:35 Speaker 4: exercising the beast, the demon is through through my music.

44:38 Speaker 4: So that's why a lot of the subjects on my

44:40 Speaker 4: albums can sometimes be a little bit heavy. But if

44:43 Speaker 4: I write a love song, you know it's going to

44:45 Speaker 4: be about you know, my wife or my child.

44:47 Speaker 2: Now I'm glad to hear you say that too, because

44:49 Speaker 2: that's the subject that comes up a lot on the show.

44:51 Speaker 2: Is how you know, music is such great therapy. And

44:55 Speaker 2: if you anytime that you can take trauma or stress

44:58 Speaker 2: or things that you're worried about, whether it's something that's

45:01 Speaker 2: happened to you or something that you're worried about happening,

45:04 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, whatever is bothering you or in

45:06 Speaker 2: your case, you know, you talked about fade and what

45:08 Speaker 2: that song means witches. You know, I can only imagine

45:12 Speaker 2: what it's like to go through that. But anytime you

45:14 Speaker 2: can take something that's negative and turn it into art,

45:18 Speaker 2: then you're taking something negative and making something positive from it.

45:22 Speaker 2: And not only is that great therapy for you as

45:24 Speaker 2: the person who is creating that art, but it also

45:26 Speaker 2: might help other people who then can enjoy that art

45:29 Speaker 2: and connect with it, and maybe it helps them with

45:32 Speaker 2: what they're going through as well. So I think, uh,

45:35 Speaker 2: I think music is the best, the best therapy that

45:40 Speaker 2: you can whether it's making it or listening to it.

45:42 Speaker 2: It's it's really is the best therapy in my opinion, So.

45:47 Speaker 4: And creative, I agree with you, yeah, one hundred percent.

45:50 Speaker 4: There's most people are the same. It doesn't matter how

45:54 Speaker 4: you wrapped up. You know, the plumber and the Thames, adopted,

45:57 Speaker 4: adopted is the same as the rock star. The rock

45:59 Speaker 4: stars the same as the mechanic. We're all the same underneath,

46:02 Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter what standing you have in life.

46:06 Speaker 4: You could be the billionaire, the millionaire, the plumb on

46:08 Speaker 4: the street, or you just could be a normal, everyday

46:10 Speaker 4: working class dude or woman. And we're all connected by

46:16 Speaker 4: the same stories. We all breathe the same air. People

46:20 Speaker 4: die around us, we can all fall in love, we

46:22 Speaker 4: can all lose something, win something. And if you sing

46:25 Speaker 4: about stuff that is actually happening in your life, there's

46:29 Speaker 4: a good chance that it's happening in billions of other

46:32 Speaker 4: people's lives. So there's always that connection there. So I

46:35 Speaker 4: always sing about or write songs about things that have

46:38 Speaker 4: happened to me, and I always have a lot of

46:40 Speaker 4: people come back at me, not millions, but you know

46:44 Speaker 4: enough saying that they're connected to the songs because it

46:47 Speaker 4: happened to them and they understand where I'm coming from.

46:50 Speaker 4: And you know, for me, that's a really important thing.

46:53 Speaker 4: I won't sing about dragons and wizards and things, nothing

46:57 Speaker 4: about there's I've been wrong with that, but I don't

46:59 Speaker 4: deal in and to see deal in reality right right?

47:03 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Well, CJ Wildheart, this has been wonderful. It's great

47:06 Speaker 2: to have you on the show. We'll definitely do this

47:08 Speaker 2: again in the future, especially as they're going to be

47:10 Speaker 2: releasing new music. And I do want to again thank

47:12 Speaker 2: you for you know, thank you for your flexibility in

47:14 Speaker 2: terms of what platform we use to bring you on.

47:20 Speaker 2: Technology will fail us at times.

47:21 Speaker 4: Go ahead, definitely. Can I just say this, I said

47:24 Speaker 4: it with Devil it's my last album. This next one

47:27 Speaker 4: I'm making could potentially be my last album. When you

47:30 Speaker 4: say it's your last album, people tend to buy more

47:33 Speaker 4: copies of them, So it's a really good strategy to

47:36 Speaker 4: sell more.

47:37 Speaker 8: Else that is true.

47:38 Speaker 2: And it works with touring too. If you say you're

47:40 Speaker 2: going on a farewell tour, you know, and then it works.

47:45 Speaker 2: It works for a lot of Yeah, it's worked for

47:46 Speaker 2: a lot of artists. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, So we will

47:50 Speaker 2: end our conversation with another track from the album Devil.

47:53 Speaker 2: But I not to put you on the spot, but

47:56 Speaker 2: we already we played a bunch of them while I

47:58 Speaker 2: was trying to get the situation worked out with WhatsApp

48:00 Speaker 2: and and and all that. So I would like you

48:03 Speaker 2: to pick what should we what should we play from

48:07 Speaker 2: the album to end the segment. It's just the only

48:09 Speaker 2: stipulation being because we're on terrestrial radio in the United States,

48:12 Speaker 2: can't have any swears in it.

48:14 Speaker 4: But uh uh, the art of being free?

48:19 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what decades Oh excellent, all right, very good,

48:24 Speaker 2: So we'll we'll end with that. So again c J Wildheart.

48:27 Speaker 2: Oh one other thing, where's the best place for people

48:29 Speaker 2: to go online to keep up with everything that you're

48:31 Speaker 2: doing and to buy the album?

48:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you go to uh, it's h CJ.

48:38 Speaker 4: Devil Spit all one word, CJ Devil Spit.

48:42 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I've been to the site, by the way,

48:45 Speaker 2: it's excellent.

48:45 Speaker 12: So I really like that.

48:46 Speaker 2: I'm a website nerd.

48:48 Speaker 4: So a lot of the album, a lot of my

48:51 Speaker 4: albums are sold out now, so it's a good and

48:53 Speaker 4: it's a good place to be selling out.

48:56 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely all right, my friend c J. Wild Heart,

49:00 Speaker 2: we'll let you go. We will hit that track, but

49:02 Speaker 2: we will do it again in the future. And thank

49:04 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us today. This has been wonderful.

49:07 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Matt. All right, you take care, all.

49:10 Speaker 2: Right, you two take care, bye bye, all right. That

49:14 Speaker 2: is c J. Wildheart. The new album with very new

49:17 Speaker 2: just came out, Devil, and let's play this track. Oh wait,

49:23 Speaker 2: which one? I want to make sure, Oh, the art

49:26 Speaker 2: of being free? I want to make sure I play

49:28 Speaker 2: the one that he asked us to play. And again

49:31 Speaker 2: I did listen to the whole thing. It's great. I

49:33 Speaker 2: suggest you check it out, Devil by CJ. Wildheart. And

49:36 Speaker 2: this is called the art of being free.

49:38 Speaker 3: Fia to being free. Away. That's no way against the

50:14 Speaker 3: jays stand a lot of him by even though I'm running, someone.

50:28 Speaker 7: Was lacking in the nest, coming.

50:35 Speaker 3: Uns out away, my brother. Here, I guess I got away.

50:56 Speaker 3: That's no way coming yes, Jack looking away as Joh,

51:17 Speaker 3: I get it. The same thing. There's a lot about

51:21 Speaker 3: say and then it's going and got get away a

51:33 Speaker 3: way from me. I guess that go away. That's no ways.

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52:25 Speaker 3: It's really imbo, even though it is Gaddy is all outside.

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