Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-7-25 hour 3

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Speaker 8: That is Wild by Katie Dobbins. Katie is with us and we're gonna be talking with her in just a moment as she makes a return to the show. If you are just joining us, of course, on this Saturday morning, it is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM. We have entered our number three on this June seventh, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here, of course at the news table.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's a someone, it's an association, but that's many someone.

Speaker 9: Someone is a singular, yeah, not a not a plural.

Speaker 8: No, what my goodness, Oh my goodness. I can't do it. So where where should people go to find out?

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Speaker 8: So more information?

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Speaker 8: Is that so that's happening today?

Speaker 9: Yes, it's a virtual all across the country, actually around the world. H I thought you were going to bring this up.

Speaker 8: At the end. Oh, we'll mention it. We'll mention it again at the end too, but yeah, I just didn't want to forget.

Speaker 9: Yeah, well I'll give more info later.

Speaker 8: Okay, Oh very good, very good. And uh let's see. So Katie is here, let me get that make up. Katie, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 6: Hi, thanks thanks for having me.

Speaker 8: Yeah, we talked. Uh so, we did talk a little bit. It was a couple of months. It was still during the winter, or it was the end of winter. It was like it was like when it was like we thought winter was over and then uh woke up one morning to a winter wonderland that was wild. Yeah, that was that was that was so traveling was a bit difficult, but you did call in so that was great. But it's great to see you in person. And the last time I saw you in person was of course on Rob as a Vito Show granted State of Mind, so that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 8: But welcome back. Thanks, And I know we talked about it on Rob show. But that song wild, that's you know, it's different for you, different than can you tell us again the story of how that came together in the studio for people who might maybe not have heard us talking about it before.

Speaker 6: Yeah, it was really cool because I was doing a collection of songs at Rockinghorse Studio and I went in one day just to lay the piano tracks because all three songs that I had chosen were piano based songs that I had written on that instrument, And so I laid the three songs and then I was like, you know, I do have another piano song that I could throw in here, but it was kind of a last minute let's try it. Let me just record the piano and let you guys hear it, and if down the road you feel it and we want to add anything to it, we will.

Speaker 6: And so I kind of did it on a whim. Again, I had only been planning on doing three singles, and the guys in the studio they loved it, and I wasn't. I hadn't gone in with any idea of production or anythings. Again, wasn't planning and recording it, and so because of that, we had a lot of freedom to just try stuff, and the production ended up coming out really unique and different than anything I've done. So it was an exciting process and really fun. And my dad's actually on that track too. He did a speaking part that's kind of embedded in there, which is pretty neat.

Speaker 8: Yeah, when you approached him with that, what did he like? How did he react at first? Was he was he into it? Was he skeptical? Was he like, what you want me to do?

Speaker 3: What?

Speaker 2: I think?

Speaker 6: He was like so excited, but he was also nervous, so both.

Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, No, it came out great. Do do you usually write on the piano? You mentioned the three tracks he recorded, There were all songs he wrote on the piano.

Speaker 6: I've been writing more on the piano, But a piano was actually my first instrument when I was younger, but I was I learned classically, so I was, you know, classically trained kind of, and so it took me a while to realize, oh, I could write on piano just like I write on guitar, because you know, you've heard guitar all you need is three chords in the truth. So once I learned three chords on guitar, it was like, oh my gosh, I was writing all these songs. I was in eighth grade, and I was just like, oh, I'm writing about my life.

Speaker 6: This is awesome.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 6: But it wasn't until much later that I kind of challenged myself to think, Wait, I think I could create stuff on the piano as well. So yeah, I do. I do both, And sometimes I don't write on an instrument at all. I just I lyrics and melody comes first, and I do I'll write like a whole song with no instrument and then add things later.

Speaker 8: Yeah. I've heard a lot of a lot of instructors say that it's it's a good idea to learn at least, no matter what instrument you're playing, to learn at least some basic keyboarding because it will help you with everything else, which sadly I never bothered to do. I had to. I had one of those old, cheap cassio keyboards growing up, but I never really learned to play it. But yeah, but what do you play anything else? You play guitar, you play a piano, do you play anything else?

Speaker 6: Or every now and then if some one lets me, I'll play kahone really yeah, yeah, like on one of their songs or something. But just I don't. I haven't done anything technical with it. I have my dad has a bass guitar that he was learning how to play, and I've picked that up a couple of times and fiddled around with it. It's an instrument i'd like to learn. I just haven't dedicated enough time to it.

Speaker 8: Yeah, you can pick it up quick. I mean, if you're already played guitar, you can pick up the bass pretty quick.

Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it makes sense because it's sprets. And I tried to learn violin when I was younger, and I also attempted the saxophone both. I thought I was doing pretty good, but I think my family didn't.

Speaker 8: Agree, right right, Saxophone's loud instrument.

Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they're so super supportive. But I think there are some instruments that, like, if it's not coming quickly and naturally, might be more painful to listen to.

Speaker 8: Them, right, No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, But I.

Speaker 2: Love the violin.

Speaker 6: I wish that I had fully learned it because it's just so beautiful.

Speaker 8: Yeah yeah. Now do you have a busy summer? Are you playing a lot? I would imagine you're playing out Yeah.

Speaker 6: Yeah, And I have some things I'm excited about. I I record with other instrumentalists and singers, like most of my music is recorded with a band and kind of bringing out that fuller production. But normally when I perform, I'm pretty much always solo. I haven't really done band shows since you know, my different album release shows that I did years ago, and a couple other kind of special things. But this summer I have a full band show coming up at Bank in New Hampshire Pavilion on their side stage.

Speaker 6: Oh wow, So that'll be fun to bring the fullness back together again and perform with other people. And then I don't know if you know Chris Noise. He's a bass player. He played on these new singles on Wild and.

Speaker 8: I don't think I know Chris. Is he related to Ron Noise? I don't know, because Ron's a musician. I wonder if they're related. No, I don't think I know Chris.

Speaker 6: So he played bass on some of my studio tracks and he's playing with me up in Portsmouth at the Tuesdays on the Terrace at Strawberry Bank Museum.

Speaker 8: Oh cool.

Speaker 6: So we've got that and a couple other kind of fun outdoor summer shows where I'm playing with him and another guy on drums. So it'll be fun to play with other people again and bring the songs to life in a different way.

Speaker 8: Yeah, but it doesn't sound like you have any any interest in doing like a permanent full band.

Speaker 6: We'll see see where things go. I'm never Before we went live on air, you guys were saying, like we go with the flow, like we're not really married to anything. It's it's kind of how I feel. I don't I have I have hopes, but I don't have like necessarily set in stone expectations that I want or don't want. So if it if it came together naturally and it was like really fun and everybody totally jigged, I could see doing.

Speaker 8: More of it for sure. Yeah. No, that makes sense. And are you still are you still just putting out singles or do you have an EP or I don't.

Speaker 6: I was just shy of an EP when I recorded my four songs. I mean, I suppose I could have turned it into a collection. I've thought about adding some songs and making it a full collection. I'm not there yet. I haven't. I actually have one kind of wintery song, not to bring snow back up.

Speaker 8: On the side.

Speaker 6: I have one song that I'm working on recording. It's kind of a mix of I recorded some of it at home and some of it at Mike Moran's home studio. He is a drummer and a bass player and a guitarist, and we've played together a lot in the past, and we have some stuff coming up this summer, so we've been working on product producing that song together. So and then I have some other ideas, but nothing no exciting release dates to share right now.

Speaker 8: You've worked with a number of different producers, right, it seems like you've.

Speaker 6: Yeah, every project has been totally different. My first record I recorded in New Hampshire with Ryan Ordway and then yeah, yeah, and that was really fun. And then my second record I recorded on the South Shore in mass with Sean McLoughlin. Okay, and then this last collection I did with Brian Coombs at Rocking Horror Studios in Pittsfield, and then I've done a little bit tried to do a little bit of home recording too, and kind of feeling that out. But it is a lot of work to record your own stuff.

Speaker 6: I mean, it's a lot of work to go to the studio too, but oh yeah, you have other hands and eyes and ears on it, and they know what they're doing more than like, I'm sort of learning as I go. But it's fun. I like that part of it too.

Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the adventure of it. Yeah. Do you want to play something for us?

Speaker 2: Yeah?

Speaker 8: Sure, let me turn up that. Uh yeah, go and go in and strum a little. I just want to make sure I get there. Oh yeah, that sounds good. Bad phones, Yeah, excellent, All right, cool.

Speaker 6: I'm going to play a brand new one for you if that's okay.

Speaker 8: Absolutely.

Speaker 3: So.

Speaker 6: I've been trying to challenge myself. I think I mentioned this to you last time. I saw you challenge myself to make time for songwriting, which sounds like, well, duh, you're a songwriter, right, is that all you do? But sometimes the weeks just go by and I'm like, oh my gosh, like my creative need is just like being squished down, and so I've been trying to bring that more to the forefront. So and trying to write more songs, which if anyone's listening, I would like to follow along on my new songwriting journey.

Speaker 6: I've been sharing things, all the new stuff on Patreon, which is like a place online that you can support artists, and patreon dot com slash Katidobbins music. But this is one of the ones that I wrote for my almost song a Week project, not quite a song a week, but it's called Coffee in the Morning, and it's about how when you fall in love and suddenly you're liking things and doing things that you never really cared about before, just because of that other person.

Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, is it that wrangler or your rugged hands in my Is it that open road or the smell of your cologne? Do I even like the challenge of a standard or just the way you laugh every time I stall it? I don't even know if I like coffee in the morning. Maybe there's just something about the way you pull inform me as the sung in lights up the kitchen. We're too early for my liking, but I like havin that quiet time with you. Is it that country song or the way you sing it for me? Is it that dance floor or the way you pull me clothes?

Speaker 3: Do I even like staying out past midnight? Just the way you hold my handwalking in me home. I don't even know if I should like that whiskey bourbon. Maybe there's just something about the taste of it on your lips as the moon lights up the kitchen ware too late for my liking, But I like talking into the night with you. I don't even know if I like bike rideser game nice USANs, fireflies in a jar.

Speaker 1: I don't think I haven't it's.

Speaker 3: A gold fishing or stay all night chasing stars.

Speaker 2: Unless it's where you are, Unless it's.

Speaker 5: Where you.

Speaker 3: Because I don't even know if I like coffee in the morning. Maybe there's just something in about the way you poor inform me and as the soul in lights off the kitchen ware too early for my liking, but I like.

Speaker 2: Heaven that quiet time with you.

Speaker 3: I don't even know if I like coffee in the morning, but I know, really.

Speaker 2: The way you pour it for me.

Speaker 8: Oh that's beautiful. Thank you very nice, very nice. So that's uh, so that's new. That's that's very new then.

Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I wrote that a couple of months ago.

Speaker 8: Now, very cool, very cool if you're just joining us. Katie Dobbins is here with us, alive in studio and sounding amazing. So so you haven't Are you playing that one out curly or is that?

Speaker 10: Uh?

Speaker 11: Or have you not?

Speaker 12: Yeah?

Speaker 6: I played it a couple of times at live shows.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 6: I think that was the radio debut.

Speaker 8: Okay, awesome, We Love That, We Love the We Love the World premieres here. Do you have any idea how many songs you've written at this point? Can you put like like like is it in triple digits yet?

Speaker 2: Do you think?

Speaker 12: Or?

Speaker 2: Oh?

Speaker 6: I mean it probably depends on if I want to count every song I've ever written, probably yes, But if I just count the ones that I like, yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 8: Yeah. Do do you have some that you've kind of retired? Like are there some early ones that used to play that you don't play anymore?

Speaker 10: Yeah?

Speaker 6: I mean I I play the stuff from my first album still. I play several of those songs out, Yeah, not all of them. And then there are some yeah, the some originals that I used to play, Like when you first write it and you're like, I really love this song because you wrote you just wrote it, so you're feeling real like passionate and emotional about it because you know it just came from your Yeah, it's most being And yeah, so I had some like that I felt really excited about in the moment, and then kind of down the road was that sort of faded, you know, and they really got their full full moment in the sun.

Speaker 8: I guess, yeah, yeah, I've probably asked you this before, but do you remember the first song you wrote?

Speaker 6: The first song I wrote was a co write. Well, the first song I wrote was actually a cappella in like fifth grade, and I wrote it my best friend had moved to California and I was so sad, and so I wrote this song about you know, my I think it was called best Friend. The first song I ever wrote on guitar was a co write. My friend Sarah Ellen had taught me a few chords on guitar and she had been writing songs. So we're like, let's write a song together. We and we wrote a song about our grandfather's But if you asked me to play it.

Speaker 6: I truly don't remember how it goes, yeah, but I remember thinking it was really good. I was so you know, we were so excited about it, and we played it at some open mics and things like that, which is like really really fun.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 6: You know, you're in eighth grade on stage playing a duet that you wrote and you just feel like a rock star.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Now, long have you been doing You've been doing this full time now for quite some time, right, a.

Speaker 6: Few years now.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 6: I think I made the shift to full time in like spring of twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, okay, Yeah, and it took it took a while to find my stride and still kind of you know, figuring out balance. I feel like I talk about balance a lot, but it's hard, Like theres you wear so many hats when you're oh, music is it's not just songwriting and performing, but you're I think of it as like you're running your own business. You know, you're booking, you're promoting, you're trying to make money, You're doing, you know, recording all this stuff, and so finding balance and a good rhythm is something I feel like I'm always like working on getting a little more honed in, but it's fun.

Speaker 6: I love it, and since making the decision to do it full time, I've never regretted it at all. But I will say it's not for everyone because I feel like whenever I tell another artist, oh, yeah, I do it full time, because they'll ask what do you do during the day, And I feel like a lot of times people say, oh, like, I want.

Speaker 2: To do that too.

Speaker 6: I'm just I'm trying to get there, and almost from a place of like they feel like they're not doing it yet if they're not doing it full time or something, and it's like you really have to assess. I mean, it's it's it adds a sort of you have to really want to do it full time and know that there's going to be a period of like hardship that comes with that, yeah, and be okay with that. And also there's nothing wrong with having, you know, a job that you're good at or that you like that you know funds funds what you love too, and it gives you that like consistency.

Speaker 6: So I love doing it how I'm doing it, but I don't think it's for everybody. So when I say that, if you're an artist listening don't feel pressured to like I need to do that too, you don't, you know, everybody does this so differently.

Speaker 8: So yeah, and I think too, you know, if you you can still call yourself a professional musician even if you're doing it part time. You know, the way I've always looked at it is, and really, with any profession, you can call yourself a professional if you've ever been paid for what you do. True, That's how I look at it. So even if even if you you know, you've just gotten you know, thirty dollars, you know, playing playing a set somewhere, well, you're now a professional musician. If somebody, if somebody gave you money, you know, for that, then you're now a professional.

Speaker 8: And you know, I think, I think sometimes yeah, I think sometimes people get self conscious about it, you know, if they're if they're doing it part time, you know, but they're still working at something else. But but I think too, part of the key is, and you kind of alluded to it, if you have if you have another job that you really love, then you know, because the important thing is to fill your life, I think with things that you love to do, you know, whether it's part time, full time, whether you're a full time musician or a part time musician and full time doing something else or whatever it is.

Speaker 8: You know, don't you don't want to no matter what. You don't want to waste your life doing things you hate, right, which is what a lot of people do. You know, They work their whole lives at a job they don't like, and it's like, why find something you love?

Speaker 6: You know? You know definitely.

Speaker 8: Now, do you have any advice for people who are you know, because a lot of musicians listen to the show and a lot of industry people, do you have any advice for someone who is really thinking about trying to do this full time but they're hesitant?

Speaker 6: Yeah, I would talk to people who are doing it full time. Yeah, that's what I did. I talked to several people that were doing it full time and I was like, what is this really like for you? How is this working? And I found out that most people that are doing it full time that you know, they are getting support in some way loved ones, or they're sacrificing something, you know, like my Manny petticures I used to be able to get for myself on someone. I mean, that's a tiny sacrifice I'm part kidding, but you know, you said you might sacrifice like some kind of lifestyle that you're used to in order to pursue this, and just I would talk to somebody who's doing it, or multiple people that are doing it, just to get like a full picture of what this actually is before you, you know, just put the pedal to the metal and you know, give up everything you know and go in blindly so that because it always sounds like such a dream, you know, but you really want to make an informed decision about and ask yourself, is this really what I want to do?

Speaker 11: Right?

Speaker 8: And nothing's as glamorous as it looks from the outside either, you know, And as you also mentioned, there's a lot of work. You know, it's not just creating music. It's all the business stuff you got to do, right and keeping up with social media too, which some people enjoy and embrace and some people are just like I wish I didn't have to do that part, But you do have to do that.

Speaker 6: Part, yep. And I feel like it ebbs and flows too, like I have. And I used to get harder on myself and I'm accepting this more and more, Like there are seasons where I'm doing a lot more stuff online social media, you know, posting videos, things like that, And then there are seasons where I'm playing out a lot more so I don't have as much time to be present online. Then there are seasons where, oh it's a slower show season, so I'm songwriting or I'm in the studio. And I think at first I felt like I have to do all these things all the time.

Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like and I still feel that a little bit, but it's like being okay with the ebb and flow of of what it means to be an art maker and performer, like distributor of that art. There's just you can't always do it all all the time or.

Speaker 8: You totally burn out, right right, Yeah, no doubt. Oh do you want to play another one for us?

Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll play Giants since you told me you like this one, do Yeah.

Speaker 8: So the first time I heard that was on Rob Show. That was the first time I'd heard that song. And yeah, I love this song. Yeah cool, absolutely, Haadie Dobbins live in studio.

Speaker 6: I feel like this is a good song to play right now too, because it's about doing things that feel hard and facing the things that feel impossible in your life and remembering that you are actually more powerful than you may realize. And the giants in your life they're just make believe, like those giants in your closet when you're a little kid.

Speaker 3: Your sweatshirt falling off my shoulder. It's too big, But then again it only was. When did I become so small? Living in your shadow? I don't fill the space. Saddle feels like I've been swallowed. Don't take too much space, my mind said, shrink so I don't risk scin thing bad or too be safe. Then to be sorry, Well, I'm sorry. I don't feel safe. Fu frount shy. Maybe it's time I come Outahi day haptain sult just makes me good.

Speaker 1: I lie.

Speaker 3: Just so you could think that you're the child, your colone rushing off my shoulder. It's over powering, but then again it always was. Now that I am coming clean, shutting everything but me, redoing all my skin, tell me.

Speaker 2: Are you panicking? Baby? Do you feelcy far round chyce?

Speaker 3: Because I think it's time back come out of harding.

Speaker 1: Acting small just makes me god. I lie in.

Speaker 2: Just so you could think that you're the char.

Speaker 10: But you're no char. Don't take too much space.

Speaker 3: My mind said shrink, So I don't race anything trying.

Speaker 2: To putat me.

Speaker 10: But I know now the giant sort make believe.

Speaker 5: Their make believe, So.

Speaker 11: I don't feel the fame around no chie, I know it's Tima come out handing.

Speaker 2: Hapting small just makes me good.

Speaker 5: And but you are no Chaiet. There are no chi

Speaker 5: giant smy believe the rack Blie.

Speaker 6: Acting small just makes me good lyon.

Speaker 12: You are only giants in my mind.

Speaker 6: Acting small just makes me good lying.

Speaker 2: You are only giant in my mind. In Giant Sidchist.

Speaker 10: Make Bull.

Speaker 8: I love it, Katie Dobbins live in studio. Yeah, that is a great, great song.

Speaker 2: Oh I love it.

Speaker 8: Great song, great song. That one's been out for a little while, right, But that is that is that kind of newer.

Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like in my newer collection of singles recorded at Rocking Horse, Okay, okay, and that one I actually started writing on the electric guitar.

Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I have.

Speaker 6: An electric guitar. Are I just I don't play it out? I would like to learn how to do cool stuff on it? Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah I kind of had like a little riff going and then I moved to acoustic guitar, and then I was like, no, this is a piano song.

Speaker 8: So oh okay. Have you have you played electric guitar on any of your studio recordings so far?

Speaker 6: No other people have played my guitar.

Speaker 8: Yeah, it's in there. Yeah yeah, actually.

Speaker 6: That's not true. I recorded I have a single called star Lights that I recorded during the pandemic in my home studio. Oh okay, that I actually did do my own little electric guitar riff on.

Speaker 8: Oh really, yeah, you want to check out.

Speaker 6: My electric guitar playing. You can check out star Lights.

Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, very cool, very cool. When you when you play out, I mean you must do some covers too, right, I assume you make some covers in yeah.

Speaker 6: Yeah, And it depends on the Oh yeah, if I'm doing like a three hour gig, for sure.

Speaker 8: Yeah.

Speaker 6: And then I have I have a bunch of shows coming up this summer that are like focused on original music that I'm really excited about.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 6: But even when I do that, I'll throw in, you know, one or two just people kind of like something familiar. Oh yeah, you know, and it's fun. It's fun to I always think like how cool it must be to be Taylor Swift or something and you look out and everyone's singing every lyric to your song.

Speaker 10: Right.

Speaker 6: The fact that's fun about covers is, you know, sometimes I'll transition into a cover song from an original. It's just fun to look out and see people bopping around and singing along with you, and yeah, fun moment.

Speaker 11: Do you have?

Speaker 8: Do you do any covers that you found particularly challenging to learn? Sometimes I get some surprising answers when I ask people this, So I'm I'm just curious, like, is there anything you said I'm gonna learn that one? And then it turned out to be kind of challenging.

Speaker 6: I don't think so, But I don't learn traditionally, Like if I'm learning a new cover, I sort of just will look up the chords and then play it how ever feels good to me. Whereas some people are which would be good for me to do. Some people are going on you know, YouTube and like watching a bunch of videos and learning how the actual original artist plays it. Sure, I sometimes when I learn to cover, I don't even know the song that well, Like I'll kind of know it, and then I feel like it makes it easier to put my own twists on it because like kind of I'm learning it, but also like making it feel good to me because I only kind of know the song No I'm your own, Yeah yeah, but I I did learn Forever Young is a song I love playing by Bob Dylan, and Joni Mitchell has a version of that song.

Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Joan Bias has a version of that song that's really beautiful. So I did learn her guitar version to it, and it was a really pretty like I felt really fancy when I learned to this, you know, yeah,

Speaker 6: and it's really pretty. Yeah, So that one I did learn traditionally because I was like, that's just so beautiful. I got to learn that part.

Speaker 8: That makes sense. That makes sense. You want to play another live one? I yeah, we got we got time?

Speaker 9: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Selfishly, I want to hear more. You just sound so great.

Speaker 6: That's so nice. I want to hear another new newer one.

Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be cool, that would be great.

Speaker 6: I have a I have a single out. My newest single is called Grateful and it's about gratitude. Yeah shocker uh. And so I'm not going to play that, but I will play another song that's sort of on the same theme. I feel like it's called miss these days because you know today, someday we're gonna be like that was the good old days, So you got to soak it in.

Speaker 3: Yep, Mama's calling on the kitchen on the other side of the house.

Speaker 2: Can't hear what she's saying. I just chuckle to myself. And the dog is going.

Speaker 3: Crazy about a squirrel outside the window, and Daddy's watching.

Speaker 10: News about what God only knows.

Speaker 3: It's a little bit of chaos on a quiet country road, in a humble, old brick house where we made ourselves at home.

Speaker 2: I don't know what tomorrow brings.

Speaker 3: I'm not sure of much, but I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. So I'm living on hope and excite me for each day as it comes, keep showing up for the ernie where the ridden may lead. Life's father uncertainty.

Speaker 3: But all I wanna do is so it in, cause I'm sure some day I'm gonna miss these days. I'm sure some day I'm gonna miss things. Day's I'm heading down the long road on the way to another show, running on prayers and catheine, hoping my songs will touch your souls. And the car is packed so high I can't see out my back window. I'm following my dreams and now some guy who's going so slow. I got a little bit of road rage on a quiet country road in a humble old folks wagon where I made myself a home. I don't know what tomorrow brings.

Speaker 3: I'm not sure of much, but I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I'm sure some.

Speaker 10: Day I'm gonna miss these day.

Speaker 3: So I'm living on hope and excite me for each day as it comes, keep showing up for the journey where for ridden maybe life is not hope, uncertainty.

Speaker 2: The head all one Heda is so gidding.

Speaker 3: Because I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I'm sure some day I'm gonna miss these day.

Speaker 5: So take this day that it be what true leaving I keep me for on this amis man, I go sometime I'm gonna miss this day.

Speaker 2: I know some day I'm gonna miss it.

Speaker 6: So I'm living on hope, and excite.

Speaker 2: Me for each day as it comes. Keep showing up. For the journey where.

Speaker 3: Mai Hyphus full of uncertainty wanna do so, Katie.

Speaker 2: Cans.

Speaker 3: I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I know, someday I'm gonna miss days day. Yeah, you know, someday we're gonna miss this day.

Speaker 8: I love it. Thank you, Katie Dobbins live in studio with us, and that was great. So that's another new one. Huh yeah, very cool, very cool. By the way, So you're getting some love here in the chat room. Eric and Pallamini, also known as Temple Mountain. He's been on the show a few times now. He says Katie is the best. So glad her name spells Katie with a K and not with a G. I don't know if there's an inside joke there. I don't. I don't get to ask him. Yeah, I don't. I don't quite get it. But uh yes, I'm also glad you spell Katie with a K and not a G.

Speaker 6: Me too, Hey, Eric, thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 8: He's amazing.

Speaker 6: He's amazing, awesome, super supportive too, like super supportive of you know, other musicians, ands and radio and he's just like always good positive energy.

Speaker 8: Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 9: Yeah, he sends people to us, Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8: He's referred a bunch of really good, really good musicians to us. Also, good morning to Miriam who's in the chat room. Good morning, and Rob Dion who els to show here through the stage door. He's part of the W M and H family. He said, I'm heading to a gig right now, but I just wanted to say Matt that the musicians you have on this morning really are amazing, very good, very good.

Speaker 6: Yes, nice, thanks.

Speaker 8: Absolutely, So, Katie, what do you have this weekend? Do you have shows this weekend?

Speaker 6: Actually, don't. I have a kind of a quiet weekend, which I'm very excited about. After I leave here today, I'm gonna head over to hang out with Chris Noise the Bassis. We're gonna do some practice in for our gig at Strawberry Bank later this month, and then I do I'm part of I sing at my church, which meets on top of a mountain on Sunday morning, So tomorrow I'll be hike into that and doing that whole thing up at Gunstock Mountain. But other than that, my weekend's pretty quiet, and I've been very much on the go lately.

Speaker 6: I just got back two weeks ago from my first solo road trip tour down to Nashville, Tennessee. I was gone for a week and a half, and I didn't really plan any transition time before or after the trip. I just I was like, yeah, I'll just like keep going one hundred miles an hour right up to it, and then I'll just come back and get right in the swing of things. So I'm definitely feeling the effects of that a little bit.

Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 6: I'm kind of happy to have a quiet weekend and then things will pick up. I have shows next week. On Wednesday, I'm in Portsmouth, and then Thursday I have a cool I'm hosting a touring artist at hermit Wood's Winery in Meredith, New Hampshire. It's a listening room up there, so if you're up in the Lakes region or heading up that way, come hang out Thursday night. And then I got shows like all weekend, so it'll be a nice little break leading into that.

Speaker 8: Excellent, excellent. How was your trip to Nashville?

Speaker 6: It was awesome. Yeah, it was there. You know, I felt like I was just really craving a different perspective and just being completely immersed in original music and just like seeing new people. And I've also been wanting to plan a little road trip tour to Nashville for a few years now, but I kept kind of coming up against some roadblocks and it just didn't felt. I never like it when it feels like I'm forcing something and it feels like, Okay, maybe this is not the right timing. So this finally came together in a really great way and I was able to do it, and I was down there for I was in I played a show in West Virginia on my way down and stayed with some friends, which was awesome, and then I was in Nashville for seven full days and I played almost every night that I was there.

Speaker 6: I had one or two writers round, so it was like I just met so many songwriters and I got to you get to hear them, because when you're playing a writer's round, you know, you play a little bit, and then you also get to hear like three other people playing in the round, and so it was very inspiring. And it's just so it fills your cup and inspires you to like be reminded, oh, yeah, there's so many people doing this and doing it, you know, successfully, and I just I and I also it's humbling. I left feeling like, yeah, I got to get better, keep writing, you know, which is what kind of the kick in the butt that I wanted.

Speaker 8: So yeah, it was great. Yeah that's pressure. Yeah in Nashville. Yeah, absolutely, no, it went well, that's very cool. Yeah, that's very cool.

Speaker 6: Yeah, it scratched the itch for touring too. I'm like, yeah, let's get on the rod, let's go. I mean, I mean being a musician.

Speaker 7: I know.

Speaker 6: I talked about the hardships of doing it full time and stuff, but part of the reason I I initially wanted to do it full time was well, I was just so hungry to do it, and I was like, if I don't try this, I'll never know if I could have made it happen, you know. So I just had to do it. And part of it was I wanted to do touring, which I really am just kind of dipping my toe into, at least beyond New England. I play all over New England, but I wanted to do more touring, and that's hard to do when you have a set work schedule.

Speaker 6: I was teaching, so oh yeah, you know, it's kind of hard to tour when you need to be in the classroom, so that was part of what I wanted to do. So I'm kind of now just starting to be like, Okay, what how can this look? And how exciting to think of, Wow, I could actually go travel to places and see different places around the country and play music doing it, you know. I mean, that's pretty that's pretty sick.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever missed teaching or mean, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure.

Speaker 6: You miss it if any of my old students are listening so much. I did love teaching, I really did. I really did. But I have to say it was the right decision. Yeah, yeah, I have never I've never felt like the desire to go back to teaching.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 6: I think that it was really really good for the time. You know, it was a good a good season. I learned a lot. And there's actually weirdly a lot of overlap between managing a classroom and managing your business and also like teaching, standing in front of a class, teaching and engaging students, and also performing on stage and engaging an audience. It's weirdly similar. So like, I'm very very grateful for my teaching.

Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah, that totally makes sense. You ever hear from any of your students who have followed your your music career.

Speaker 6: Some of them do follow me in you know, social media, and they'll like like a post. And I have a student who will sometimes come when I play in Massachusetts. He'll sometimes come to my shows, which is always really fun.

Speaker 8: Oh that's cool, that's very cool. Yeah, yeah, that's excellent. Well, so we will begin to wrap up in a moment, but we'll probably play studio track.

Speaker 6: Whoops, I knew that was coming. It's usually me so thank you.

Speaker 8: Jenny and I are both clutches, so where the last people will ever judge you for dropping.

Speaker 9: Something to hold onto anything for two days.

Speaker 6: Lately, I feel like my clumsiness is getting worse and it might just be the like I said, the aftermaths of the trip and not planning enough time to transition.

Speaker 9: To blame it on the humidity week.

Speaker 2: Maybe it's just you know, yeah, it got to us problem.

Speaker 6: I am actually writing a song. It's like, well, I only have this so far.

Speaker 3: It's like I can be a little clumsy, chripping over my own two feet.

Speaker 6: People think I'm funny, but I'm just trying to get by. Yeah, I'm a little clumsy something something.

Speaker 10: But the clumsiest thing that I ever did.

Speaker 6: Was falling for you.

Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it.

Speaker 6: Maybe you can help me write the rest.

Speaker 8: There you go.

Speaker 2: That's cool.

Speaker 8: What what what should we play to close the show? What's a studio track we should play?

Speaker 6: Either just because I can or Grateful? Depends if you want to play like a rocker track or a dreamy grateful track.

Speaker 8: Was Grateful the one that you said had some of your electric guitar playing in it?

Speaker 6: No, I don't think you have that song. I don't know if I ever sent that. Well, it's called Starlights. That was the one I recorded entirely in my home studio.

Speaker 8: I don't know if you have that one one it is because if it's online, I can find it.

Speaker 6: I found it, Okay, And now people in the comments can tell me what they think of this was. This was before I even had logic pro. I produced this on Oh was it garage band attempt?

Speaker 8: This will be very interesting, Okay? Cool? Cool? And uh And before we wrap up to Jenny, you want to mention the what's happening today? The virtual event.

Speaker 9: Yes, today is the sixth annual Virtual walk to support and raise awareness for CRPS, complex regional pain syndrome. You can find out more information at r s d S dot org. R s d S dot org is the Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophe Association, which is what the disease.

Speaker 2: Used to be called.

Speaker 9: So if you want to find out more about complex vieth your pain syndrome, if you want to help us and donate to the walk, all the money and proceeds goes to help with awareness and helping folks out there that have it, both young and oult. So check out rsd S dot org and for more information on me, go to Gencoffee dot com. J E N N c O f f UI dot com.

Speaker 8: Very good, very good, And of course if you missed any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org and on my website. Matt Connorton dot com and Katie Doobbins, thank you again so much, always nice to see you.

Speaker 6: Thank you so much for doing this and supporting so many local artists, not just me. Oh you've supported me from like early days and I appreciate you so much.

Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, well, well, well we appreciate you. Oh did we mention your website?

Speaker 7: Is it?

Speaker 8: It's Katie Doobbins Music dot com.

Speaker 6: Is that's right?

Speaker 8: Everything is there absolutely and uh here's a so. This track features Katie on the electric guitar. Check this out. This is called Starlights two.

Speaker 12: When star and quiet by, look as you smiling your.

Speaker 2: As remind me we're still shining.

Speaker 10: No matter where life takes us will be fine.

Speaker 1: Because we are shine.

Speaker 5: From me, b.

Speaker 2: A lot, my starlights.

Speaker 3: When my lie is dimmed and fading, you speak to my heart, reminding me made even.

Speaker 8: A little.

Speaker 10: Bit of CLD can be enough to light up the host.

Speaker 5: We are shut all from the side, bas a.

Speaker 10: Lot starlights, starlights.

Speaker 3: Come all your hungry hearts less, come alive tonight.