Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-7-25 hour 3

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0:33 Speaker 3: Painting it with colors I've never seen before.

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1:00 Speaker 1: You send my art growning like.

1:10 Speaker 2: I think I'm wild like you. I hear your voice

1:27 Speaker 2: whisper in my mind. You're telling me leave the sure behind,

1:36 Speaker 2: the greater.

1:38 Speaker 3: Things than I can sing on a noise. If there's

1:43 Speaker 3: something about you that makes me want.

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1:54 Speaker 2: W your love it is aloud?

2:00 Speaker 1: Can anyway sound any.

2:09 Speaker 5: N't my heart?

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2:36 Speaker 5: probleble in pumps who want to see things?

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2:56 Speaker 4: How f s a place says beyond reality.

3:02 Speaker 5: Que Let's go where the clouds meet the say there

3:11 Speaker 5: are only means My heart has been said for.

3:23 Speaker 2: Because you're.

3:30 Speaker 5: You're this is allowed any sound?

3:35 Speaker 1: Whenny, you sent my heart up hamaran in like Foo.

3:52 Speaker 5: I think I'm wild like you.

3:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wild, Bikey.

4:07 Speaker 2: I'm running. I'm running. I'm running. I'm running.

4:13 Speaker 7: I'm Runny, I'm running, I'm running, hom running I'm running.

4:25 Speaker 2: I'm running because your is wild.

4:39 Speaker 8: That is Wild by Katie Dobbins. Katie is with us

4:42 Speaker 8: and we're gonna be talking with her in just a

4:43 Speaker 8: moment as she makes a return to the show. If

4:46 Speaker 8: you are just joining us, of course, on this Saturday morning,

4:49 Speaker 8: it is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from

4:53 Speaker 8: the studios of w m n H ninety five point

4:55 Speaker 8: three FM. We have entered our number three on this

4:59 Speaker 8: June seventh, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here, of course

5:02 Speaker 8: at the news table.

5:03 Speaker 9: Presence an account of forn. My gosh, it's her voice.

5:06 Speaker 2: Amazing.

5:07 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, By the way, I want to make sure

5:10 Speaker 8: we don't forget you had someone you wanted to shout

5:12 Speaker 8: out this morning, not a someone.

5:16 Speaker 9: My goodness you No, Today is an important day and

5:19 Speaker 9: that the Reflex Sympathetic District the Association is having an

5:23 Speaker 9: it's sixth annual Virtual CRPS Awareness Walk. You can look

5:28 Speaker 9: it up online. It's on Facebook, It's all over the place.

5:31 Speaker 9: The RCSA organization is the one that I love to

5:34 Speaker 9: support because they raise awareness and help support efforts, define

5:38 Speaker 9: treatments and cures for CRPS, Complex regional pain syndrome. So

5:43 Speaker 9: formerly known as reflect sympathetic dystrophe. Don't you love when

5:46 Speaker 9: they just change the names of things.

5:48 Speaker 8: Well, that's a someone, it's an association, but that's many someone.

5:53 Speaker 9: Someone is a singular, yeah, not a not a plural.

5:57 Speaker 8: No, what my goodness, Oh my goodness. I can't do it.

6:01 Speaker 8: So where where should people go to find out?

6:02 Speaker 3: Uh?

6:03 Speaker 8: So more information?

6:04 Speaker 5: Uh?

6:06 Speaker 8: Is that so that's happening today?

6:08 Speaker 9: Yes, it's a virtual all across the country, actually around

6:10 Speaker 9: the world. H I thought you were going to bring

6:15 Speaker 9: this up.

6:15 Speaker 8: At the end. Oh, we'll mention it. We'll mention it

6:17 Speaker 8: again at the end too, but yeah, I just didn't

6:19 Speaker 8: want to forget.

6:20 Speaker 9: Yeah, well I'll give more info later.

6:22 Speaker 8: Okay, Oh very good, very good. And uh let's see.

6:25 Speaker 8: So Katie is here, let me get that make up. Katie,

6:28 Speaker 8: welcome back to the show.

6:29 Speaker 6: Hi, thanks thanks for having me.

6:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, we talked. Uh so, we did talk a little bit.

6:35 Speaker 8: It was a couple of months. It was still during

6:37 Speaker 8: the winter, or it was the end of winter. It

6:38 Speaker 8: was like it was like when it was like we

6:42 Speaker 8: thought winter was over and then uh woke up one

6:45 Speaker 8: morning to a winter wonderland that was wild. Yeah, that

6:49 Speaker 8: was that was that was so traveling was a bit difficult,

6:53 Speaker 8: but you did call in so that was great. But

6:55 Speaker 8: it's great to see you in person. And the last

6:56 Speaker 8: time I saw you in person was of course on

6:58 Speaker 8: Rob as a Vito Show granted State of Mind, so

7:01 Speaker 8: that was a lot of fun. But welcome back. Thanks,

7:03 Speaker 8: And I know we talked about it on Rob show.

7:05 Speaker 8: But that song wild, that's you know, it's different for you,

7:09 Speaker 8: different than can you tell us again the story of

7:11 Speaker 8: how that came together in the studio for people who

7:13 Speaker 8: might maybe not have heard us talking about it before.

7:15 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was really cool because I was doing a

7:18 Speaker 6: collection of songs at Rockinghorse Studio and I went in

7:22 Speaker 6: one day just to lay the piano tracks because all

7:24 Speaker 6: three songs that I had chosen were piano based songs

7:28 Speaker 6: that I had written on that instrument, And so I

7:30 Speaker 6: laid the three songs and then I was like, you know,

7:33 Speaker 6: I do have another piano song that I could throw

7:36 Speaker 6: in here, but it was kind of a last minute

7:37 Speaker 6: let's try it. Let me just record the piano and

7:40 Speaker 6: let you guys hear it, and if down the road

7:43 Speaker 6: you feel it and we want to add anything to it,

7:45 Speaker 6: we will. And so I kind of did it on

7:47 Speaker 6: a whim. Again, I had only been planning on doing

7:50 Speaker 6: three singles, and the guys in the studio they loved it,

7:54 Speaker 6: and I wasn't. I hadn't gone in with any idea

7:57 Speaker 6: of production or anythings. Again, wasn't planning and recording it,

8:00 Speaker 6: and so because of that, we had a lot of

8:03 Speaker 6: freedom to just try stuff, and the production ended up

8:06 Speaker 6: coming out really unique and different than anything I've done.

8:10 Speaker 6: So it was an exciting process and really fun. And

8:12 Speaker 6: my dad's actually on that track too. He did a

8:15 Speaker 6: speaking part that's kind of embedded in there, which is

8:18 Speaker 6: pretty neat.

8:19 Speaker 8: Yeah, when you approached him with that, what did he like?

8:23 Speaker 8: How did he react at first? Was he was he

8:24 Speaker 8: into it? Was he skeptical? Was he like, what you

8:26 Speaker 8: want me to do?

8:27 Speaker 3: What?

8:27 Speaker 2: I think?

8:28 Speaker 6: He was like so excited, but he was also nervous,

8:32 Speaker 6: so both.

8:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, No, it came out great. Do do you

8:38 Speaker 8: usually write on the piano? You mentioned the three tracks

8:40 Speaker 8: he recorded, There were all songs he wrote on the piano.

8:43 Speaker 6: I've been writing more on the piano, But a piano

8:46 Speaker 6: was actually my first instrument when I was younger, but

8:49 Speaker 6: I was I learned classically, so I was, you know,

8:51 Speaker 6: classically trained kind of, and so it took me a

8:55 Speaker 6: while to realize, oh, I could write on piano just

8:58 Speaker 6: like I write on guitar, because you know, you've heard

9:01 Speaker 6: guitar all you need is three chords in the truth.

9:03 Speaker 6: So once I learned three chords on guitar, it was like,

9:05 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, I was writing all these songs. I

9:07 Speaker 6: was in eighth grade, and I was just like, oh,

9:09 Speaker 6: I'm writing about my life. This is awesome.

9:11 Speaker 8: Yeah.

9:11 Speaker 6: But it wasn't until much later that I kind of

9:14 Speaker 6: challenged myself to think, Wait, I think I could create

9:17 Speaker 6: stuff on the piano as well. So yeah, I do.

9:20 Speaker 6: I do both, And sometimes I don't write on an

9:22 Speaker 6: instrument at all. I just I lyrics and melody comes first,

9:25 Speaker 6: and I do I'll write like a whole song with

9:28 Speaker 6: no instrument and then add things later.

9:31 Speaker 8: Yeah. I've heard a lot of a lot of instructors

9:34 Speaker 8: say that it's it's a good idea to learn at least,

9:38 Speaker 8: no matter what instrument you're playing, to learn at least

9:40 Speaker 8: some basic keyboarding because it will help you with everything else,

9:43 Speaker 8: which sadly I never bothered to do. I had to.

9:46 Speaker 8: I had one of those old, cheap cassio keyboards growing up,

9:49 Speaker 8: but I never really learned to play it. But yeah,

9:53 Speaker 8: but what do you play anything else? You play guitar,

9:55 Speaker 8: you play a piano, do you play anything else?

9:56 Speaker 6: Or every now and then if some one lets me,

10:00 Speaker 6: I'll play kahone really yeah, yeah, like on one of

10:04 Speaker 6: their songs or something. But just I don't. I haven't

10:07 Speaker 6: done anything technical with it. I have my dad has

10:10 Speaker 6: a bass guitar that he was learning how to play,

10:13 Speaker 6: and I've picked that up a couple of times and

10:15 Speaker 6: fiddled around with it. It's an instrument i'd like to learn.

10:18 Speaker 6: I just haven't dedicated enough time to it.

10:20 Speaker 8: Yeah, you can pick it up quick. I mean, if

10:22 Speaker 8: you're already played guitar, you can pick up the bass

10:24 Speaker 8: pretty quick.

10:25 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it makes sense because it's sprets. And I

10:28 Speaker 6: tried to learn violin when I was younger, and I

10:30 Speaker 6: also attempted the saxophone both. I thought I was doing

10:34 Speaker 6: pretty good, but I think my family didn't.

10:37 Speaker 8: Agree, right right, Saxophone's loud instrument.

10:41 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they're so super supportive. But I think there

10:44 Speaker 6: are some instruments that, like, if it's not coming quickly

10:48 Speaker 6: and naturally, might be more painful to listen to.

10:50 Speaker 8: Them, right, No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

10:53 Speaker 8: But I.

10:54 Speaker 2: Love the violin.

10:54 Speaker 6: I wish that I had fully learned it because it's

10:57 Speaker 6: just so beautiful.

10:58 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah. Now do you have a busy summer? Are

11:00 Speaker 8: you playing a lot? I would imagine you're playing out Yeah.

11:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I have some things I'm excited about. I

11:07 Speaker 6: I record with other instrumentalists and singers, like most of

11:11 Speaker 6: my music is recorded with a band and kind of

11:14 Speaker 6: bringing out that fuller production. But normally when I perform,

11:18 Speaker 6: I'm pretty much always solo. I haven't really done band

11:22 Speaker 6: shows since you know, my different album release shows that

11:25 Speaker 6: I did years ago, and a couple other kind of

11:28 Speaker 6: special things. But this summer I have a full band

11:31 Speaker 6: show coming up at Bank in New Hampshire Pavilion on

11:34 Speaker 6: their side stage. Oh wow, So that'll be fun to

11:37 Speaker 6: bring the fullness back together again and perform with other people.

11:41 Speaker 6: And then I don't know if you know Chris Noise.

11:44 Speaker 6: He's a bass player. He played on these new singles

11:47 Speaker 6: on Wild and.

11:48 Speaker 8: I don't think I know Chris. Is he related to

11:50 Speaker 8: Ron Noise? I don't know, because Ron's a musician. I

11:54 Speaker 8: wonder if they're related. No, I don't think I know Chris.

11:57 Speaker 6: So he played bass on some of my studio tracks

11:59 Speaker 6: and he's playing with me up in Portsmouth at the

12:02 Speaker 6: Tuesdays on the Terrace at Strawberry Bank Museum.

12:05 Speaker 8: Oh cool.

12:06 Speaker 6: So we've got that and a couple other kind of

12:08 Speaker 6: fun outdoor summer shows where I'm playing with him and

12:11 Speaker 6: another guy on drums. So it'll be fun to play

12:15 Speaker 6: with other people again and bring the songs to life

12:18 Speaker 6: in a different way.

12:18 Speaker 8: Yeah, but it doesn't sound like you have any any

12:21 Speaker 8: interest in doing like a permanent full band.

12:23 Speaker 6: We'll see see where things go. I'm never Before we

12:28 Speaker 6: went live on air, you guys were saying, like we

12:30 Speaker 6: go with the flow, like we're not really married to anything.

12:33 Speaker 6: It's it's kind of how I feel. I don't I

12:36 Speaker 6: have I have hopes, but I don't have like necessarily

12:39 Speaker 6: set in stone expectations that I want or don't want.

12:42 Speaker 6: So if it if it came together naturally and it

12:45 Speaker 6: was like really fun and everybody totally jigged, I could

12:48 Speaker 6: see doing.

12:49 Speaker 8: More of it for sure. Yeah. No, that makes sense.

12:51 Speaker 8: And are you still are you still just putting out

12:53 Speaker 8: singles or do you have an EP or I don't.

12:56 Speaker 6: I was just shy of an EP when I recorded

12:59 Speaker 6: my four songs. I mean, I suppose I could have

13:02 Speaker 6: turned it into a collection. I've thought about adding some

13:05 Speaker 6: songs and making it a full collection. I'm not there yet.

13:09 Speaker 6: I haven't. I actually have one kind of wintery song,

13:13 Speaker 6: not to bring snow back up.

13:15 Speaker 8: On the side.

13:17 Speaker 6: I have one song that I'm working on recording. It's

13:21 Speaker 6: kind of a mix of I recorded some of it

13:24 Speaker 6: at home and some of it at Mike Moran's home studio.

13:27 Speaker 6: He is a drummer and a bass player and a guitarist,

13:30 Speaker 6: and we've played together a lot in the past, and

13:32 Speaker 6: we have some stuff coming up this summer, so we've

13:35 Speaker 6: been working on product producing that song together. So and

13:39 Speaker 6: then I have some other ideas, but nothing no exciting

13:43 Speaker 6: release dates to share right now.

13:45 Speaker 8: You've worked with a number of different producers, right, it

13:48 Speaker 8: seems like you've.

13:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, every project has been totally different. My first record

13:54 Speaker 6: I recorded in New Hampshire with Ryan Ordway and then yeah, yeah,

13:59 Speaker 6: and that was really fun. And then my second record

14:01 Speaker 6: I recorded on the South Shore in mass with Sean McLoughlin. Okay,

14:05 Speaker 6: and then this last collection I did with Brian Coombs

14:08 Speaker 6: at Rocking Horror Studios in Pittsfield, and then I've done

14:11 Speaker 6: a little bit tried to do a little bit of

14:13 Speaker 6: home recording too, and kind of feeling that out. But

14:16 Speaker 6: it is a lot of work to record your own stuff.

14:18 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a lot of work to go to

14:19 Speaker 6: the studio too, but oh yeah, you have other hands

14:21 Speaker 6: and eyes and ears on it, and they know what

14:24 Speaker 6: they're doing more than like, I'm sort of learning as

14:27 Speaker 6: I go. But it's fun. I like that part of

14:29 Speaker 6: it too.

14:30 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the adventure of it. Yeah. Do

14:32 Speaker 8: you want to play something for us?

14:33 Speaker 2: Yeah?

14:34 Speaker 8: Sure, let me turn up that. Uh yeah, go and

14:39 Speaker 8: go in and strum a little. I just want to

14:41 Speaker 8: make sure I get there. Oh yeah, that sounds good.

14:43 Speaker 8: Bad phones, Yeah, excellent, All right, cool.

14:48 Speaker 6: I'm going to play a brand new one for you

14:50 Speaker 6: if that's okay.

14:51 Speaker 8: Absolutely.

14:52 Speaker 3: So.

14:53 Speaker 6: I've been trying to challenge myself. I think I mentioned

14:56 Speaker 6: this to you last time. I saw you challenge myself

14:59 Speaker 6: to make time for songwriting, which sounds like, well, duh,

15:02 Speaker 6: you're a songwriter, right, is that all you do? But

15:06 Speaker 6: sometimes the weeks just go by and I'm like, oh

15:08 Speaker 6: my gosh, like my creative need is just like being

15:13 Speaker 6: squished down, and so I've been trying to bring that

15:16 Speaker 6: more to the forefront. So and trying to write more songs,

15:18 Speaker 6: which if anyone's listening, I would like to follow along

15:21 Speaker 6: on my new songwriting journey. I've been sharing things, all

15:24 Speaker 6: the new stuff on Patreon, which is like a place

15:28 Speaker 6: online that you can support artists, and patreon dot com

15:31 Speaker 6: slash Katidobbins music. But this is one of the ones

15:34 Speaker 6: that I wrote for my almost song a Week project,

15:39 Speaker 6: not quite a song a week, but it's called Coffee

15:43 Speaker 6: in the Morning, and it's about how when you fall

15:45 Speaker 6: in love and suddenly you're liking things and doing things

15:49 Speaker 6: that you never really cared about before, just because of

15:51 Speaker 6: that other person.

15:52 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, is it that wrangler or your rugged

16:05 Speaker 3: hands in my Is it that open road or the

16:10 Speaker 3: smell of your cologne? Do I even like the challenge

16:17 Speaker 3: of a standard or just the way you laugh every

16:22 Speaker 3: time I stall it? I don't even know if I

16:31 Speaker 3: like coffee in the morning. Maybe there's just something about

16:37 Speaker 3: the way you pull inform me as the sung in

16:41 Speaker 3: lights up the kitchen. We're too early for my liking,

16:46 Speaker 3: but I like havin that quiet time with you. Is

16:55 Speaker 3: it that country song or the way you sing it

16:59 Speaker 3: for me? Is it that dance floor or the way

17:04 Speaker 3: you pull me clothes? Do I even like staying out

17:10 Speaker 3: past midnight? Just the way you hold my handwalking in

17:16 Speaker 3: me home. I don't even know if I should like

17:26 Speaker 3: that whiskey bourbon. Maybe there's just something about the taste

17:32 Speaker 3: of it on your lips as the moon lights up

17:36 Speaker 3: the kitchen ware too late for my liking, But I

17:41 Speaker 3: like talking into the night with you. I don't even

17:48 Speaker 3: know if I like bike rideser game nice USANs, fireflies

17:55 Speaker 3: in a jar.

18:00 Speaker 1: I don't think I haven't it's.

18:02 Speaker 3: A gold fishing or stay all night chasing stars.

18:10 Speaker 2: Unless it's where you are, Unless it's.

18:17 Speaker 5: Where you.

18:27 Speaker 3: Because I don't even know if I like coffee in

18:31 Speaker 3: the morning. Maybe there's just something in about the way

18:37 Speaker 3: you poor inform me and as the soul in lights

18:40 Speaker 3: off the kitchen ware too early for my liking, but

18:45 Speaker 3: I like.

18:46 Speaker 2: Heaven that quiet time with you.

18:55 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I like coffee in the morning,

19:02 Speaker 3: but I know, really.

19:07 Speaker 2: The way you pour it for me.

19:16 Speaker 8: Oh that's beautiful. Thank you very nice, very nice. So

19:22 Speaker 8: that's uh, so that's new. That's that's very new then.

19:25 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I wrote that a couple of months ago.

19:27 Speaker 8: Now, very cool, very cool if you're just joining us.

19:30 Speaker 8: Katie Dobbins is here with us, alive in studio and

19:33 Speaker 8: sounding amazing. So so you haven't Are you playing that

19:38 Speaker 8: one out curly or is that?

19:39 Speaker 10: Uh?

19:40 Speaker 11: Or have you not?

19:41 Speaker 12: Yeah?

19:41 Speaker 6: I played it a couple of times at live shows.

19:43 Speaker 8: Yeah.

19:44 Speaker 6: I think that was the radio debut.

19:46 Speaker 8: Okay, awesome, We Love That, We Love the We Love

19:49 Speaker 8: the World premieres here. Do you have any idea how

19:52 Speaker 8: many songs you've written at this point? Can you put

19:55 Speaker 8: like like like is it in triple digits yet?

19:57 Speaker 2: Do you think?

19:58 Speaker 12: Or?

19:58 Speaker 2: Oh?

20:00 Speaker 6: I mean it probably depends on if I want to

20:03 Speaker 6: count every song I've ever written, probably yes, But if

20:07 Speaker 6: I just count the ones that I like, yeah, I'm

20:10 Speaker 6: not sure.

20:11 Speaker 8: Yeah. Do do you have some that you've kind of retired?

20:15 Speaker 8: Like are there some early ones that used to play

20:17 Speaker 8: that you don't play anymore?

20:18 Speaker 10: Yeah?

20:18 Speaker 6: I mean I I play the stuff from my first

20:22 Speaker 6: album still. I play several of those songs out, Yeah,

20:26 Speaker 6: not all of them. And then there are some yeah,

20:30 Speaker 6: the some originals that I used to play, Like when

20:33 Speaker 6: you first write it and you're like, I really love

20:35 Speaker 6: this song because you wrote you just wrote it, so

20:37 Speaker 6: you're feeling real like passionate and emotional about it because

20:40 Speaker 6: you know it just came from your Yeah, it's most

20:43 Speaker 6: being And yeah, so I had some like that I

20:47 Speaker 6: felt really excited about in the moment, and then kind

20:49 Speaker 6: of down the road was that sort of faded, you know,

20:52 Speaker 6: and they really got their full full moment in the sun.

20:55 Speaker 8: I guess, yeah, yeah, I've probably asked you this before,

20:58 Speaker 8: but do you remember the first song you wrote?

21:02 Speaker 6: The first song I wrote was a co write. Well,

21:06 Speaker 6: the first song I wrote was actually a cappella in

21:09 Speaker 6: like fifth grade, and I wrote it my best friend

21:12 Speaker 6: had moved to California and I was so sad, and

21:15 Speaker 6: so I wrote this song about you know, my I

21:17 Speaker 6: think it was called best Friend. The first song I

21:19 Speaker 6: ever wrote on guitar was a co write. My friend

21:22 Speaker 6: Sarah Ellen had taught me a few chords on guitar

21:25 Speaker 6: and she had been writing songs. So we're like, let's

21:28 Speaker 6: write a song together. We and we wrote a song

21:30 Speaker 6: about our grandfather's But if you asked me to play it.

21:34 Speaker 6: I truly don't remember how it goes, yeah, but I

21:37 Speaker 6: remember thinking it was really good. I was so you know,

21:39 Speaker 6: we were so excited about it, and we played it

21:42 Speaker 6: at some open mics and things like that, which is

21:45 Speaker 6: like really really fun.

21:46 Speaker 8: Yeah.

21:46 Speaker 6: You know, you're in eighth grade on stage playing a

21:49 Speaker 6: duet that you wrote and you just feel like a

21:51 Speaker 6: rock star.

21:52 Speaker 2: Yeah.

21:53 Speaker 8: Now, long have you been doing You've been doing this

21:55 Speaker 8: full time now for quite some time, right, a.

21:57 Speaker 6: Few years now.

21:58 Speaker 8: Yeah.

21:59 Speaker 6: I think I made the shift to full time in

22:02 Speaker 6: like spring of twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, okay, Yeah,

22:07 Speaker 6: and it took it took a while to find my

22:09 Speaker 6: stride and still kind of you know, figuring out balance.

22:13 Speaker 6: I feel like I talk about balance a lot, but

22:14 Speaker 6: it's hard, Like theres you wear so many hats when

22:17 Speaker 6: you're oh, music is it's not just songwriting and performing,

22:20 Speaker 6: but you're I think of it as like you're running

22:22 Speaker 6: your own business. You know, you're booking, you're promoting, you're

22:25 Speaker 6: trying to make money, You're doing, you know, recording all

22:27 Speaker 6: this stuff, and so finding balance and a good rhythm

22:31 Speaker 6: is something I feel like I'm always like working on

22:35 Speaker 6: getting a little more honed in, but it's fun. I

22:39 Speaker 6: love it, and since making the decision to do it

22:41 Speaker 6: full time, I've never regretted it at all. But I

22:45 Speaker 6: will say it's not for everyone because I feel like

22:47 Speaker 6: whenever I tell another artist, oh, yeah, I do it

22:50 Speaker 6: full time, because they'll ask what do you do during

22:51 Speaker 6: the day, And I feel like a lot of times

22:54 Speaker 6: people say, oh, like, I want.

22:56 Speaker 2: To do that too.

22:57 Speaker 6: I'm just I'm trying to get there, and almost from

23:00 Speaker 6: a place of like they feel like they're not doing

23:03 Speaker 6: it yet if they're not doing it full time or something,

23:06 Speaker 6: and it's like you really have to assess. I mean,

23:08 Speaker 6: it's it's it adds a sort of you have to

23:13 Speaker 6: really want to do it full time and know that

23:15 Speaker 6: there's going to be a period of like hardship that

23:18 Speaker 6: comes with that, yeah, and be okay with that. And

23:20 Speaker 6: also there's nothing wrong with having, you know, a job

23:23 Speaker 6: that you're good at or that you like that you

23:26 Speaker 6: know funds funds what you love too, and it gives

23:30 Speaker 6: you that like consistency. So I love doing it how

23:34 Speaker 6: I'm doing it, but I don't think it's for everybody.

23:36 Speaker 6: So when I say that, if you're an artist listening

23:39 Speaker 6: don't feel pressured to like I need to do that too,

23:41 Speaker 6: you don't, you know, everybody does this so differently.

23:43 Speaker 8: So yeah, and I think too, you know, if you

23:47 Speaker 8: you can still call yourself a professional musician even if

23:50 Speaker 8: you're doing it part time. You know, the way I've

23:52 Speaker 8: always looked at it is, and really, with any profession,

23:55 Speaker 8: you can call yourself a professional if you've ever been

23:57 Speaker 8: paid for what you do. True, That's how I look

24:00 Speaker 8: at it. So even if even if you you know,

24:01 Speaker 8: you've just gotten you know, thirty dollars, you know, playing

24:05 Speaker 8: playing a set somewhere, well, you're now a professional musician.

24:08 Speaker 8: If somebody, if somebody gave you money, you know, for that,

24:11 Speaker 8: then you're now a professional. And you know, I think,

24:14 Speaker 8: I think sometimes yeah, I think sometimes people get self

24:16 Speaker 8: conscious about it, you know, if they're if they're doing

24:19 Speaker 8: it part time, you know, but they're still working at

24:22 Speaker 8: something else. But but I think too, part of the

24:24 Speaker 8: key is, and you kind of alluded to it, if

24:26 Speaker 8: you have if you have another job that you really love,

24:30 Speaker 8: then you know, because the important thing is to fill

24:32 Speaker 8: your life, I think with things that you love to do,

24:35 Speaker 8: you know, whether it's part time, full time, whether you're

24:38 Speaker 8: a full time musician or a part time musician and

24:41 Speaker 8: full time doing something else or whatever it is. You know,

24:44 Speaker 8: don't you don't want to no matter what. You don't

24:46 Speaker 8: want to waste your life doing things you hate, right,

24:48 Speaker 8: which is what a lot of people do. You know,

24:50 Speaker 8: They work their whole lives at a job they don't like,

24:53 Speaker 8: and it's like, why find something you love?

24:56 Speaker 6: You know? You know definitely.

24:58 Speaker 8: Now, do you have any advice for people who are

25:01 Speaker 8: you know, because a lot of musicians listen to the

25:02 Speaker 8: show and a lot of industry people, do you have

25:04 Speaker 8: any advice for someone who is really thinking about trying

25:08 Speaker 8: to do this full time but they're hesitant?

25:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would talk to people who are doing it

25:13 Speaker 6: full time. Yeah, that's what I did. I talked to

25:15 Speaker 6: several people that were doing it full time and I

25:18 Speaker 6: was like, what is this really like for you? How

25:21 Speaker 6: is this working? And I found out that most people

25:24 Speaker 6: that are doing it full time that you know, they

25:26 Speaker 6: are getting support in some way loved ones, or they're

25:30 Speaker 6: sacrificing something, you know, like my Manny petticures I used

25:35 Speaker 6: to be able to get for myself on someone. I mean,

25:37 Speaker 6: that's a tiny sacrifice I'm part kidding, but you know,

25:40 Speaker 6: you said you might sacrifice like some kind of lifestyle

25:43 Speaker 6: that you're used to in order to pursue this, and

25:45 Speaker 6: just I would talk to somebody who's doing it, or

25:48 Speaker 6: multiple people that are doing it, just to get like

25:50 Speaker 6: a full picture of what this actually is before you,

25:54 Speaker 6: you know, just put the pedal to the metal and

25:58 Speaker 6: you know, give up everything you know and go in

26:02 Speaker 6: blindly so that because it always sounds like such a dream,

26:07 Speaker 6: you know, but you really want to make an informed

26:09 Speaker 6: decision about and ask yourself, is this really what I

26:12 Speaker 6: want to do?

26:13 Speaker 11: Right?

26:14 Speaker 8: And nothing's as glamorous as it looks from the outside either,

26:18 Speaker 8: you know, And as you also mentioned, there's a lot

26:20 Speaker 8: of work. You know, it's not just creating music. It's

26:22 Speaker 8: all the business stuff you got to do, right and

26:25 Speaker 8: keeping up with social media too, which some people enjoy

26:28 Speaker 8: and embrace and some people are just like I wish

26:30 Speaker 8: I didn't have to do that part, But you do

26:31 Speaker 8: have to do that.

26:32 Speaker 6: Part, yep. And I feel like it ebbs and flows too,

26:35 Speaker 6: like I have. And I used to get harder on

26:38 Speaker 6: myself and I'm accepting this more and more, Like there

26:41 Speaker 6: are seasons where I'm doing a lot more stuff online

26:44 Speaker 6: social media, you know, posting videos, things like that, And

26:47 Speaker 6: then there are seasons where I'm playing out a lot

26:49 Speaker 6: more so I don't have as much time to be

26:50 Speaker 6: present online. Then there are seasons where, oh it's a

26:53 Speaker 6: slower show season, so I'm songwriting or I'm in the studio.

26:56 Speaker 6: And I think at first I felt like I have

26:59 Speaker 6: to do all these things all the time. Yeah, you know,

27:02 Speaker 6: like and I still feel that a little bit, but

27:05 Speaker 6: it's like being okay with the ebb and flow of

27:07 Speaker 6: of what it means to be an art maker and performer,

27:12 Speaker 6: like distributor of that art. There's just you can't always

27:17 Speaker 6: do it all all the time or.

27:18 Speaker 8: You totally burn out, right right, Yeah, no doubt. Oh

27:22 Speaker 8: do you want to play another one for us?

27:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll play Giants since you told me you like

27:28 Speaker 6: this one, do Yeah.

27:29 Speaker 8: So the first time I heard that was on Rob Show.

27:33 Speaker 8: That was the first time I'd heard that song. And yeah,

27:35 Speaker 8: I love this song. Yeah cool, absolutely, Haadie Dobbins live

27:38 Speaker 8: in studio.

27:40 Speaker 6: I feel like this is a good song to play

27:42 Speaker 6: right now too, because it's about doing things that feel

27:47 Speaker 6: hard and facing the things that feel impossible in your

27:50 Speaker 6: life and remembering that you are actually more powerful than

27:54 Speaker 6: you may realize. And the giants in your life they're

27:59 Speaker 6: just make believe, like those giants in your closet when

28:02 Speaker 6: you're a little kid.

28:17 Speaker 3: Your sweatshirt falling off my shoulder. It's too big, But

28:25 Speaker 3: then again it only was. When did I become so small?

28:32 Speaker 3: Living in your shadow? I don't fill the space. Saddle

28:37 Speaker 3: feels like I've been swallowed. Don't take too much space,

28:48 Speaker 3: my mind said, shrink so I don't risk scin thing

28:57 Speaker 3: bad or too be safe. Then to be sorry, Well,

29:05 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't feel safe. Fu frount shy. Maybe

29:12 Speaker 3: it's time I come Outahi day haptain sult just makes

29:19 Speaker 3: me good.

29:20 Speaker 1: I lie.

29:23 Speaker 3: Just so you could think that you're the child, your

29:32 Speaker 3: colone rushing off my shoulder. It's over powering, but then

29:40 Speaker 3: again it always was. Now that I am coming clean,

29:46 Speaker 3: shutting everything but me, redoing all my skin, tell me.

29:53 Speaker 2: Are you panicking? Baby? Do you feelcy far round chyce?

30:04 Speaker 3: Because I think it's time back come out of harding.

30:11 Speaker 1: Acting small just makes me god. I lie in.

30:17 Speaker 2: Just so you could think that you're the char.

30:24 Speaker 10: But you're no char. Don't take too much space.

30:36 Speaker 3: My mind said shrink, So I don't race anything trying.

30:46 Speaker 2: To putat me.

30:49 Speaker 10: But I know now the giant sort make believe.

31:01 Speaker 5: Their make believe, So.

31:08 Speaker 11: I don't feel the fame around no chie, I know

31:15 Speaker 11: it's Tima come out handing.

31:20 Speaker 2: Hapting small just makes me good.

31:23 Speaker 5: And but you are no Chaiet. There are no chi

31:41 Speaker 5: giant smy believe the rack Blie.

31:57 Speaker 6: Acting small just makes me good lyon.

32:03 Speaker 12: You are only giants in my mind.

32:09 Speaker 6: Acting small just makes me good lying.

32:15 Speaker 2: You are only giant in my mind. In Giant Sidchist.

32:26 Speaker 10: Make Bull.

32:37 Speaker 8: I love it, Katie Dobbins live in studio. Yeah, that

32:40 Speaker 8: is a great, great song.

32:42 Speaker 2: Oh I love it.

32:43 Speaker 8: Great song, great song. That one's been out for a

32:46 Speaker 8: little while, right, But that is that is that kind

32:48 Speaker 8: of newer.

32:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like in my newer collection of singles recorded

32:53 Speaker 6: at Rocking Horse, Okay, okay, and that one I actually

32:55 Speaker 6: started writing on the electric guitar.

32:58 Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I have.

32:59 Speaker 6: An electric guitar. Are I just I don't play it out?

33:02 Speaker 6: I would like to learn how to do cool stuff

33:04 Speaker 6: on it? Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah I kind of

33:09 Speaker 6: had like a little riff going and then I moved

33:11 Speaker 6: to acoustic guitar, and then I was like, no, this

33:14 Speaker 6: is a piano song.

33:15 Speaker 8: So oh okay. Have you have you played electric guitar

33:19 Speaker 8: on any of your studio recordings so far?

33:22 Speaker 6: No other people have played my guitar.

33:25 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's in there. Yeah yeah, actually.

33:28 Speaker 6: That's not true. I recorded I have a single called

33:31 Speaker 6: star Lights that I recorded during the pandemic in my

33:36 Speaker 6: home studio. Oh okay, that I actually did do my

33:40 Speaker 6: own little electric guitar riff on.

33:43 Speaker 8: Oh really, yeah, you want to check out.

33:44 Speaker 6: My electric guitar playing. You can check out star Lights.

33:49 Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, very cool, very cool. When you when

33:54 Speaker 8: you play out, I mean you must do some covers too, right,

33:56 Speaker 8: I assume you make some covers in yeah.

33:58 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it depends on the Oh yeah, if I'm

34:00 Speaker 6: doing like a three hour gig, for sure.

34:02 Speaker 8: Yeah.

34:03 Speaker 6: And then I have I have a bunch of shows

34:05 Speaker 6: coming up this summer that are like focused on original

34:07 Speaker 6: music that I'm really excited about.

34:09 Speaker 10: Yeah.

34:09 Speaker 6: But even when I do that, I'll throw in, you know,

34:12 Speaker 6: one or two just people kind of like something familiar.

34:15 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know, and it's fun. It's fun to

34:18 Speaker 6: I always think like how cool it must be to

34:20 Speaker 6: be Taylor Swift or something and you look out and

34:23 Speaker 6: everyone's singing every lyric to your song.

34:25 Speaker 10: Right.

34:25 Speaker 6: The fact that's fun about covers is, you know, sometimes

34:28 Speaker 6: I'll transition into a cover song from an original. It's

34:30 Speaker 6: just fun to look out and see people bopping around

34:33 Speaker 6: and singing along with you, and yeah, fun moment.

34:37 Speaker 11: Do you have?

34:37 Speaker 8: Do you do any covers that you found particularly challenging

34:40 Speaker 8: to learn? Sometimes I get some surprising answers when I

34:43 Speaker 8: ask people this, So I'm I'm just curious, like, is

34:46 Speaker 8: there anything you said I'm gonna learn that one? And

34:47 Speaker 8: then it turned out to be kind of challenging.

34:49 Speaker 6: I don't think so, But I don't learn traditionally, Like

34:54 Speaker 6: if I'm learning a new cover, I sort of just

34:57 Speaker 6: will look up the chords and then play it how

35:00 Speaker 6: ever feels good to me. Whereas some people are which

35:03 Speaker 6: would be good for me to do. Some people are

35:05 Speaker 6: going on you know, YouTube and like watching a bunch

35:08 Speaker 6: of videos and learning how the actual original artist plays it. Sure,

35:12 Speaker 6: I sometimes when I learn to cover, I don't even

35:15 Speaker 6: know the song that well, Like I'll kind of know it,

35:18 Speaker 6: and then I feel like it makes it easier to

35:20 Speaker 6: put my own twists on it because like kind of

35:24 Speaker 6: I'm learning it, but also like making it feel good

35:28 Speaker 6: to me because I only kind of know the song

35:30 Speaker 6: No I'm your own, Yeah yeah, but I I did

35:34 Speaker 6: learn Forever Young is a song I love playing by

35:39 Speaker 6: Bob Dylan, and Joni Mitchell has a version of that song.

35:42 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Joan Bias has a version of that song

35:44 Speaker 6: that's really beautiful. So I did learn her guitar version

35:49 Speaker 6: to it, and it was a really pretty like I

35:55 Speaker 6: felt really fancy when I learned to this, you know, yeah,

35:59 Speaker 6: and it's really pretty. Yeah, So that one I did

36:02 Speaker 6: learn traditionally because I was like, that's just so beautiful.

36:04 Speaker 6: I got to learn that part.

36:06 Speaker 8: That makes sense. That makes sense. You want to play

36:10 Speaker 8: another live one? I yeah, we got we got time?

36:13 Speaker 9: Yeah.

36:14 Speaker 8: Selfishly, I want to hear more. You just sound so great.

36:17 Speaker 6: That's so nice. I want to hear another new newer one.

36:19 Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be cool, that would be great.

36:21 Speaker 6: I have a I have a single out. My newest

36:24 Speaker 6: single is called Grateful and it's about gratitude. Yeah shocker uh.

36:32 Speaker 6: And so I'm not going to play that, but I

36:33 Speaker 6: will play another song that's sort of on the same theme.

36:37 Speaker 6: I feel like it's called miss these days because you

36:42 Speaker 6: know today, someday we're gonna be like that was the

36:45 Speaker 6: good old days, So you got to soak it in.

36:46 Speaker 3: Yep, Mama's calling on the kitchen on the other side

37:02 Speaker 3: of the house.

37:04 Speaker 2: Can't hear what she's saying. I just chuckle to myself.

37:09 Speaker 2: And the dog is going.

37:11 Speaker 3: Crazy about a squirrel outside the window, and Daddy's watching.

37:16 Speaker 10: News about what God only knows.

37:20 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of chaos on a quiet country road,

37:26 Speaker 3: in a humble, old brick house where we made ourselves

37:30 Speaker 3: at home.

37:32 Speaker 2: I don't know what tomorrow brings.

37:35 Speaker 3: I'm not sure of much, but I'm sure someday I'm

37:39 Speaker 3: gonna miss these days. I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss

37:46 Speaker 3: these days. So I'm living on hope and excite me

37:55 Speaker 3: for each day as it comes, keep showing up for

37:59 Speaker 3: the ernie where the ridden may lead. Life's father uncertainty.

38:09 Speaker 3: But all I wanna do is so it in, cause

38:15 Speaker 3: I'm sure some day I'm gonna miss these days. I'm

38:20 Speaker 3: sure some day I'm gonna miss things. Day's I'm heading

38:30 Speaker 3: down the long road on the way to another show,

38:34 Speaker 3: running on prayers and catheine, hoping my songs will touch

38:39 Speaker 3: your souls. And the car is packed so high I

38:43 Speaker 3: can't see out my back window. I'm following my dreams

38:48 Speaker 3: and now some guy who's going so slow. I got

38:55 Speaker 3: a little bit of road rage on a quiet country

38:59 Speaker 3: road in a humble old folks wagon where I made

39:04 Speaker 3: myself a home. I don't know what tomorrow brings. I'm

39:10 Speaker 3: not sure of much, but I'm sure someday I'm gonna

39:14 Speaker 3: miss these days. I'm sure some.

39:19 Speaker 10: Day I'm gonna miss these day.

39:25 Speaker 3: So I'm living on hope and excite me for each

39:29 Speaker 3: day as it comes, keep showing up for the journey

39:35 Speaker 3: where for ridden maybe life is not hope, uncertainty.

39:43 Speaker 2: The head all one Heda is so gidding.

39:49 Speaker 3: Because I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I'm

39:55 Speaker 3: sure some day I'm gonna miss these day.

40:04 Speaker 5: So take this day that it be what true leaving

40:15 Speaker 5: I keep me for on this amis man, I go

40:28 Speaker 5: sometime I'm gonna miss this day.

40:33 Speaker 2: I know some day I'm gonna miss it.

40:41 Speaker 6: So I'm living on hope, and excite.

40:44 Speaker 2: Me for each day as it comes. Keep showing up.

40:49 Speaker 2: For the journey where.

40:52 Speaker 3: Mai Hyphus full of uncertainty wanna do so, Katie.

41:04 Speaker 2: Cans.

41:05 Speaker 3: I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I know,

41:12 Speaker 3: someday I'm gonna miss days day. Yeah, you know, someday

41:21 Speaker 3: we're gonna miss this day.

41:33 Speaker 8: I love it. Thank you, Katie Dobbins live in studio

41:37 Speaker 8: with us, and that was great. So that's another new one.

41:40 Speaker 8: Huh yeah, very cool, very cool. By the way, So

41:44 Speaker 8: you're getting some love here in the chat room. Eric

41:47 Speaker 8: and Pallamini, also known as Temple Mountain. He's been on

41:50 Speaker 8: the show a few times now. He says Katie is

41:53 Speaker 8: the best. So glad her name spells Katie with a

41:58 Speaker 8: K and not with a G. I don't know if

42:00 Speaker 8: there's an inside joke there. I don't. I don't get

42:03 Speaker 8: to ask him. Yeah, I don't. I don't quite get it.

42:06 Speaker 8: But uh yes, I'm also glad you spell Katie with

42:10 Speaker 8: a K and not a G.

42:11 Speaker 6: Me too, Hey, Eric, thanks for tuning in.

42:15 Speaker 8: He's amazing.

42:15 Speaker 6: He's amazing, awesome, super supportive too, like super supportive of

42:20 Speaker 6: you know, other musicians, ands and radio and he's just

42:23 Speaker 6: like always good positive energy.

42:26 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's great.

42:27 Speaker 9: Yeah, he sends people to us, Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

42:30 Speaker 8: He's referred a bunch of really good, really good musicians

42:32 Speaker 8: to us. Also, good morning to Miriam who's in the

42:35 Speaker 8: chat room. Good morning, and Rob Dion who els to

42:39 Speaker 8: show here through the stage door. He's part of the

42:41 Speaker 8: W M and H family. He said, I'm heading to

42:43 Speaker 8: a gig right now, but I just wanted to say

42:45 Speaker 8: Matt that the musicians you have on this morning really

42:47 Speaker 8: are amazing, very good, very good.

42:51 Speaker 6: Yes, nice, thanks.

42:52 Speaker 8: Absolutely, So, Katie, what do you have this weekend? Do

42:54 Speaker 8: you have shows this weekend?

42:57 Speaker 6: Actually, don't. I have a kind of a quiet weekend,

42:59 Speaker 6: which I'm very excited about. After I leave here today,

43:02 Speaker 6: I'm gonna head over to hang out with Chris Noise

43:05 Speaker 6: the Bassis. We're gonna do some practice in for our

43:08 Speaker 6: gig at Strawberry Bank later this month, and then I

43:12 Speaker 6: do I'm part of I sing at my church, which

43:14 Speaker 6: meets on top of a mountain on Sunday morning, So

43:16 Speaker 6: tomorrow I'll be hike into that and doing that whole

43:19 Speaker 6: thing up at Gunstock Mountain. But other than that, my

43:22 Speaker 6: weekend's pretty quiet, and I've been very much on the

43:25 Speaker 6: go lately. I just got back two weeks ago from

43:29 Speaker 6: my first solo road trip tour down to Nashville, Tennessee.

43:34 Speaker 6: I was gone for a week and a half, and

43:36 Speaker 6: I didn't really plan any transition time before or after

43:39 Speaker 6: the trip. I just I was like, yeah, I'll just

43:41 Speaker 6: like keep going one hundred miles an hour right up

43:45 Speaker 6: to it, and then I'll just come back and get

43:46 Speaker 6: right in the swing of things. So I'm definitely feeling

43:48 Speaker 6: the effects of that a little bit.

43:50 Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt.

43:51 Speaker 6: I'm kind of happy to have a quiet weekend and

43:53 Speaker 6: then things will pick up. I have shows next week.

43:56 Speaker 6: On Wednesday, I'm in Portsmouth, and then Thursday I have

43:59 Speaker 6: a cool I'm hosting a touring artist at hermit Wood's

44:02 Speaker 6: Winery in Meredith, New Hampshire. It's a listening room up there,

44:06 Speaker 6: so if you're up in the Lakes region or heading

44:07 Speaker 6: up that way, come hang out Thursday night. And then

44:10 Speaker 6: I got shows like all weekend, so it'll be a

44:13 Speaker 6: nice little break leading into that.

44:16 Speaker 8: Excellent, excellent. How was your trip to Nashville?

44:18 Speaker 6: It was awesome. Yeah, it was there. You know, I

44:24 Speaker 6: felt like I was just really craving a different perspective

44:29 Speaker 6: and just being completely immersed in original music and just

44:33 Speaker 6: like seeing new people. And I've also been wanting to

44:37 Speaker 6: plan a little road trip tour to Nashville for a

44:39 Speaker 6: few years now, but I kept kind of coming up

44:43 Speaker 6: against some roadblocks and it just didn't felt. I never

44:45 Speaker 6: like it when it feels like I'm forcing something and

44:47 Speaker 6: it feels like, Okay, maybe this is not the right timing.

44:50 Speaker 6: So this finally came together in a really great way

44:53 Speaker 6: and I was able to do it, and I was

44:56 Speaker 6: down there for I was in I played a show

44:58 Speaker 6: in West Virginia on my way down and stayed with

45:00 Speaker 6: some friends, which was awesome, and then I was in

45:03 Speaker 6: Nashville for seven full days and I played almost every

45:07 Speaker 6: night that I was there. I had one or two

45:09 Speaker 6: writers round, so it was like I just met so

45:12 Speaker 6: many songwriters and I got to you get to hear them,

45:14 Speaker 6: because when you're playing a writer's round, you know, you

45:16 Speaker 6: play a little bit, and then you also get to

45:18 Speaker 6: hear like three other people playing in the round, and

45:21 Speaker 6: so it was very inspiring. And it's just so it

45:25 Speaker 6: fills your cup and inspires you to like be reminded, oh, yeah,

45:28 Speaker 6: there's so many people doing this and doing it, you know, successfully,

45:32 Speaker 6: and I just I and I also it's humbling. I

45:36 Speaker 6: left feeling like, yeah, I got to get better, keep writing,

45:39 Speaker 6: you know, which is what kind of the kick in

45:41 Speaker 6: the butt that I wanted.

45:42 Speaker 8: So yeah, it was great. Yeah that's pressure. Yeah in Nashville. Yeah, absolutely, no,

45:47 Speaker 8: it went well, that's very cool. Yeah, that's very cool.

45:49 Speaker 6: Yeah, it scratched the itch for touring too. I'm like, yeah,

45:53 Speaker 6: let's get on the rod, let's go. I mean, I

45:55 Speaker 6: mean being a musician.

45:56 Speaker 7: I know.

45:56 Speaker 6: I talked about the hardships of doing it full time

45:58 Speaker 6: and stuff, but part of the reason I I initially

46:00 Speaker 6: wanted to do it full time was well, I was

46:03 Speaker 6: just so hungry to do it, and I was like,

46:05 Speaker 6: if I don't try this, I'll never know if I

46:08 Speaker 6: could have made it happen, you know. So I just

46:10 Speaker 6: had to do it. And part of it was I

46:12 Speaker 6: wanted to do touring, which I really am just kind

46:15 Speaker 6: of dipping my toe into, at least beyond New England.

46:17 Speaker 6: I play all over New England, but I wanted to

46:20 Speaker 6: do more touring, and that's hard to do when you

46:22 Speaker 6: have a set work schedule. I was teaching, so oh yeah,

46:26 Speaker 6: you know, it's kind of hard to tour when you

46:29 Speaker 6: need to be in the classroom, so that was part

46:32 Speaker 6: of what I wanted to do. So I'm kind of

46:34 Speaker 6: now just starting to be like, Okay, what how can

46:36 Speaker 6: this look? And how exciting to think of, Wow, I

46:39 Speaker 6: could actually go travel to places and see different places

46:41 Speaker 6: around the country and play music doing it, you know.

46:44 Speaker 6: I mean, that's pretty that's pretty sick.

46:46 Speaker 10: Yeah.

46:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever missed teaching or mean, I mean,

46:51 Speaker 8: I'm sure, I'm sure.

46:51 Speaker 6: You miss it if any of my old students are

46:53 Speaker 6: listening so much. I did love teaching, I really did.

46:58 Speaker 6: I really did. But I have to say it was

47:00 Speaker 6: the right decision. Yeah, yeah, I have never I've never

47:05 Speaker 6: felt like the desire to go back to teaching.

47:09 Speaker 10: Yeah.

47:09 Speaker 6: I think that it was really really good for the time.

47:12 Speaker 6: You know, it was a good a good season. I

47:15 Speaker 6: learned a lot. And there's actually weirdly a lot of

47:17 Speaker 6: overlap between managing a classroom and managing your business and

47:21 Speaker 6: also like teaching, standing in front of a class, teaching

47:24 Speaker 6: and engaging students, and also performing on stage and engaging

47:28 Speaker 6: an audience. It's weirdly similar. So like, I'm very very

47:32 Speaker 6: grateful for my teaching.

47:33 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah, that totally makes sense.

47:37 Speaker 8: You ever hear from any of your students who have

47:38 Speaker 8: followed your your music career.

47:41 Speaker 6: Some of them do follow me in you know, social media,

47:44 Speaker 6: and they'll like like a post. And I have a

47:46 Speaker 6: student who will sometimes come when I play in Massachusetts.

47:49 Speaker 6: He'll sometimes come to my shows, which is always really fun.

47:52 Speaker 8: Oh that's cool, that's very cool. Yeah, yeah, that's excellent. Well,

47:56 Speaker 8: so we will begin to wrap up in a moment,

47:59 Speaker 8: but we'll probably play studio track.

48:03 Speaker 6: Whoops, I knew that was coming. It's usually me so

48:08 Speaker 6: thank you.

48:10 Speaker 8: Jenny and I are both clutches, so where the last

48:12 Speaker 8: people will ever judge you for dropping.

48:15 Speaker 9: Something to hold onto anything for two days.

48:18 Speaker 6: Lately, I feel like my clumsiness is getting worse and

48:21 Speaker 6: it might just be the like I said, the aftermaths

48:23 Speaker 6: of the trip and not planning enough time to transition.

48:26 Speaker 9: To blame it on the humidity week.

48:28 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just you know, yeah, it got to us problem.

48:31 Speaker 6: I am actually writing a song. It's like, well, I

48:34 Speaker 6: only have this so far.

48:36 Speaker 3: It's like I can be a little clumsy, chripping over

48:39 Speaker 3: my own two feet.

48:41 Speaker 6: People think I'm funny, but I'm just trying to get by. Yeah,

48:46 Speaker 6: I'm a little clumsy something something.

48:49 Speaker 10: But the clumsiest thing that I ever did.

48:53 Speaker 6: Was falling for you.

48:58 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it.

49:00 Speaker 6: Maybe you can help me write the rest.

49:03 Speaker 8: There you go.

49:04 Speaker 2: That's cool.

49:05 Speaker 8: What what what should we play to close the show?

49:08 Speaker 8: What's a studio track we should play?

49:10 Speaker 6: Either just because I can or Grateful? Depends if you

49:13 Speaker 6: want to play like a rocker track or a dreamy

49:15 Speaker 6: grateful track.

49:16 Speaker 8: Was Grateful the one that you said had some of

49:18 Speaker 8: your electric guitar playing in it?

49:20 Speaker 6: No, I don't think you have that song. I don't

49:23 Speaker 6: know if I ever sent that. Well, it's called Starlights.

49:27 Speaker 6: That was the one I recorded entirely in my home studio.

49:29 Speaker 8: I don't know if you have that one one it

49:32 Speaker 8: is because if it's online, I can find it.

49:35 Speaker 6: I found it, Okay, And now people in the comments

49:37 Speaker 6: can tell me what they think of this was. This

49:39 Speaker 6: was before I even had logic pro. I produced this

49:41 Speaker 6: on Oh was it garage band attempt?

49:53 Speaker 8: This will be very interesting, Okay? Cool? Cool? And uh

49:57 Speaker 8: And before we wrap up to Jenny, you want to

49:59 Speaker 8: mention the what's happening today? The virtual event.

50:02 Speaker 9: Yes, today is the sixth annual Virtual walk to support

50:07 Speaker 9: and raise awareness for CRPS, complex regional pain syndrome. You

50:11 Speaker 9: can find out more information at r s d S

50:14 Speaker 9: dot org. R s d S dot org is the

50:17 Speaker 9: Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophe Association, which is what the disease.

50:22 Speaker 2: Used to be called.

50:23 Speaker 9: So if you want to find out more about complex

50:25 Speaker 9: vieth your pain syndrome, if you want to help us

50:27 Speaker 9: and donate to the walk, all the money and proceeds

50:30 Speaker 9: goes to help with awareness and helping folks out there

50:33 Speaker 9: that have it, both young and oult. So check out

50:35 Speaker 9: rsd S dot org and for more information on me,

50:39 Speaker 9: go to Gencoffee dot com. J E N N c

50:41 Speaker 9: O f f UI dot com.

50:44 Speaker 8: Very good, very good, And of course if you missed

50:46 Speaker 8: any part of today's show, it'll be up in just

50:47 Speaker 8: a little bit at wmnhradio dot org and on my website.

50:50 Speaker 8: Matt Connorton dot com and Katie Doobbins, thank you again

50:53 Speaker 8: so much, always nice to see you.

50:54 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for doing this and supporting so

50:57 Speaker 6: many local artists, not just me. Oh you've supported me

50:59 Speaker 6: from like early days and I appreciate you so much.

51:01 Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, well, well, well we appreciate you. Oh did

51:06 Speaker 8: we mention your website?

51:07 Speaker 7: Is it?

51:07 Speaker 8: It's Katie Doobbins Music dot com.

51:08 Speaker 6: Is that's right?

51:09 Speaker 8: Everything is there absolutely and uh here's a so. This

51:13 Speaker 8: track features Katie on the electric guitar. Check this out.

51:16 Speaker 8: This is called Starlights two.

51:21 Speaker 12: When star and quiet by, look as you smiling your.

51:35 Speaker 2: As remind me we're still shining.

51:41 Speaker 10: No matter where life takes us will be fine.

51:47 Speaker 1: Because we are shine.

51:58 Speaker 5: From me, b.

52:04 Speaker 2: A lot, my starlights.

52:24 Speaker 3: When my lie is dimmed and fading, you speak to

52:34 Speaker 3: my heart, reminding me made even.

52:39 Speaker 8: A little.

52:42 Speaker 10: Bit of CLD can be enough to light up the host.

52:50 Speaker 5: We are shut all from the side, bas a.

53:08 Speaker 10: Lot starlights, starlights.

53:28 Speaker 3: Come all your hungry hearts less, come alive tonight.

53:34 Speaker 2: Oh we need a lot.

53:36 Speaker 5: Alone and little bit alive.

53:40 Speaker 6: It.

53:41 Speaker 10: I get a whole of right away, and I feel

53:45 Speaker 10: your hand.

53:46 Speaker 11: In mind, join us in me hope, me snarling, all

53:51 Speaker 11: of us can shine.

53:55 Speaker 6: We are start.

54:04 Speaker 5: Shot from the side. We fight, We starlight, we starlight.

54:31 Speaker 10: We have starlight starlights, we've starlight