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Speaker 10: That is very very catchy. I like that A lot that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb, who is here with us in studio. Welcome everybody. You have just entered our number three numerow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three f I'm in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here of course at the news table President Act and today is Saturday, July twelve, twenty twenty five. Welcome everybody, and we have in studio with us, so Crime calab is here.

Speaker 10: Hello, good morning, Welcome to the show, and of course returning to the show, Darling Hill. Hello, he Should we call you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate? What should we call you?

Speaker 6: Oh?

Speaker 11: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.

Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I've had some people.

Speaker 11: It's kind of funny. People started calling me Darling, which kind of threw oh really off. Yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't hate it though, I thought it was kind of.

Speaker 10: Cute, right right, So thanks not the worst thing. And of course you've you've been doing a lot with the listening room at Prayers of Nature. Yeah we should, oh you know what too. Before we go any further, let me hold this up for people watching online. I'll hold up this cool sticker you brought us from the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

Speaker 11: Thank you.

Speaker 10: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory, on our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.

Speaker 11: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out to the artist of that picture you've shown is my friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I Have Ethereal. She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple of new images that she did as well yesterday.

Speaker 2: So that's cool.

Speaker 11: She's been working with me since we started. So I just wanted to create a little space for musicians to come and share their art in a way that is nurturing and celebrating who they are as I did it years ago out of my home, but I kind of took a break and as you know, I met you after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists that I work with locally. So create this small little space and Caleb will be number eleven.

Speaker 10: So excellent.

Speaker 11: I started with one. I was like, I'm just going to do one show month. That's it. I don't want to overdo it. I got the small little art studio, and then it turned into, well, since I have the gear out, I'll do two, you know, like a Friday Saturday. And then it turned into oh, I'll do it Thursday, Friday Saturday.

Speaker 10: So yeah, it's.

Speaker 11: Still once a month, but it's usually three shows in one weekend. Okay, So yes, Caleb is number eleven.

Speaker 2: Oh, very good.

Speaker 11: And I've had the fortune of having people from not just New Hampshire, but getting the attention from people from Maine and New York and Connecticut basically a little New England. Yeah, nugget. And once they hear the deal, they either decide to come be a part of it, or they get put on a waiting list because I am fully booked.

Speaker 10: So oh that's good. Yeah that's a good problem now right.

Speaker 11: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. I think people, you know, I'm a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to accommodate what I would like. Yeah, so people who see that, I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful to I don't know if you've heard of him.

Speaker 10: I interviewed Dan Blakesley a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, a lot, because he's been around a while, A long time ago. Wow, he hasn't stopped. So yeah, I'm really excited to have another main artist. Or is he from Maine. He's from me, So I really like what Maine's doing. So New Hampshire pay attention. Yes, well, what is Main doing that we're not doing here?

Speaker 11: I think they're just weirder. Man that they're just weirder. I think it's further north, there's less bs up there, there's something going on closer to the sky.

Speaker 10: I think interesting, interesting.

Speaker 11: It's funkier, it's weirder, it's spookier. I think they embrace that a little more so than in this area. I think here is from my perception from what I've seen, is the local music scene here seems to really hyper fixated on like pop country or folk or like like a heavy metal vibe and even some punk. But I haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even know what to call you sometimes, like I know what you are, but trying to articulate it to other people. What Caleb does is well.

Speaker 10: Yeah, because we were talking off air about how and I was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to your and we should tell the audience too, not everything that you obviously as an instrumental. We opened with an instrumental track, but we're going to play some. I love your voice, so I'm looking forward to playing some of the other stuff too. But I can't think of anybody around here who really sounds like you and what you're doing. But but so, what do you think it is?

Speaker 6: Like?

Speaker 10: What's different about where your area is?

Speaker 2: Someone sent me a photo the other day that said inspirational western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library, and I was like, oh, now I know what to call myself. I love it Spaghetti western, maybe a little spaghetti Western rockabilly country blues music I really like and that I've been writing for a long time and I've played in bands playing music I've written and I'm proud of, you know, every band I've been in. But I moved to Auburn, Maine after living in Portland for over twenty years, and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, and I didn't really know anyone up there, and getting a band together was just kind of a pain.

Speaker 2: And then setting up practices in Portland with people willing to play, it was just scheduling stuff. So I just started playing on my own, just using my feet and my arms and my voice, and I realized it's a lot less hassle, and it's a means to an end. I can play my songs and I can agree to play anywhere at the drop of a hat. I'll have to run anything by a committee. I can do anything I want.

Speaker 10: That's been a consistent theme on the show over the years with guests who are doing a solo thing who used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh, this is actually easier logistically.

Speaker 2: Oh it is. It's easier logistically, and you know, I would. I'm not against it. I love to someday have a band to play with. It's a lot I love playing standing up, yeah, but it's just, you know, money's a thing. And I don't want to pay anybody. I don't want to play without getting paid if they're playing, if they're backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah, But for now I'm having a blast just doing it myself. Yeah, packing up the car sometimes I bring my dog yep, you know. And I could go on weekend tours and yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2: If I can do it, I can do it. I don't have to run it by anybody.

Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, you miss Portland at all, because that's a great that's a great scene in Portland. There's always a lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but you don't miss it.

Speaker 2: No, Now I miss a memory of what Portland was. It's not what it was, and I mean it's a great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there, I was joking with somebody that there were five restaurants. Really, oh there were maybe ten. Yeah, and it was you could afford to live there. It was dirtier, people were maybe a little there was they were more rude, Okay, it was. It was just a little more fun. And uh, you know that parable when they talk about the frog and boiling water, that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's too late.

Speaker 2: That's kind of how I felt while I was living there. I was this water is it's boiling?

Speaker 10: Interesting?

Speaker 2: I played? I mean, I'm playing there. Tonight I'll be at Geno's. And so I'm there a couple of times a month for shows or to see friends bands play, and I have a lot of friends that live there. But I don't miss living there.

Speaker 10: Okay, okay, Oh that's good. It's good that you're happy where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2: I love Yeah, I like river Folk.

Speaker 10: Now do you think that's influenced what you do creatively? Like or do you think if you were doing a solo thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.

Speaker 2: Or I'd probably be doing the same thing. But I think, uh, you know, being up there, I wouldn't say I'm isolated, but definitely left to my own devices. More as far as like music again, like playing alone, I'm just I bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.

Speaker 10: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at Prayers of Nature or the listening room? Rather at listening room at present look.

Speaker 2: Like a cool It looked like a cool place. I mean, I'm I playing alone it's a hustle. I'm I'm. I send out at least one email or message or something a day to somebody, and you know, sometimes you hear back. Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes you hear back and you have to plead your case to people of why you should be there to play. But in this in this case, I sent an inquiry and I got a lot of enthusiasm back, which right there, it's like, yeah, okay, I want to play at this place.

Speaker 2: Yea, And yeah it just looked cool and I'd never been to Wilton, New Hampshire.

Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you probably heard that a lot.

Speaker 11: Right, try to find the place tucked away. It's definitely what you call a hidden jem. It's a it's in an art mill. So it's pretty cool once you find it. Once people discover it, they're like, oh cool, you know, yeah, it's different. It makes sense so that you would find a weird little nook, right right.

Speaker 10: Has it changed much by the way since you opened? Because because I think if I remember correctly, so, you had been on the show when you were either about to start or you had just started it.

Speaker 11: I mean Tyler with us, Yeah, we just started it.

Speaker 10: Yeah, you hadn't had it yet, okay.

Speaker 11: Right right now, I've had ten of them since I've last been here. Yeah, I thought six months have gone by already. And I was like, well, come to an update. And then I booked him and I was like, you want to come with me?

Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 11: It's like if anything, can play your music and just talk about you, you know.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 10: Yeah, so he was.

Speaker 11: I was happy that he's physically with today.

Speaker 10: Absolutely.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 11: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making sure that the sound is as good as it can be in the lighting, and because I'm recognizing that the online presence is really important. Absolutely, and it's been helpful to me and exciting because I didn't really have much optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been in the booking a venue scene in about three years. I had taken a break. I had taken a break because I was burnt out. And I'd done it for other people, I'd done it for myself.

Speaker 11: I'd done it as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah, I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it. I did it, and I was like, I'm done, and that's when I took a break and focused on my own music. So when I jump back into supporting other artists, it was a little apprehensive because obviously it comes with a lot of drama and a lot of egos and I have to manage them and it affects my relationships, and I just was went in really apprehensively and really guarded. But the more I did it, every show I had, I was like, yes, this is what I want.

Speaker 11: I love this part of meeting such unique artists and being able to support them and just making them feel good about themselves made me feel good about myself. And I think that finally shone through in the social media and it resonated. So I think that's what changed for me personally. And I wish I could do it every weekend, but I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it. So it's good. I just I got to set that boundary with three and just make people wait, I guess if they want to come do it.

Speaker 10: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast.

Speaker 8: At this point.

Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, you know. And it's a bummer too, because the second I recognize they're a little too far away. I'm gonna have to have the conversation with them about how we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent about that. Yeah, but I will I I will hustle for you and if you meet me halfway, we will do what we can. And I don't take a cut unless the room even sells out, so like, I'm not here to take your money. I'm really here to share your art. So yeah, for some people though, that John is just a little too far, you know, as much as they want to come play, they're like, oh, man, I can't do it.

Speaker 11: But you know, I will say too something Caleb touched on and then I'll shut up. Is as a musician myself, whenever I reach out and try to get bookings, not getting a response, I would rather get a no oh. I would rather get oh, we're booked, or you know, I'd rather get some kind of like confirmation that you at least saw my stuff right, and like, if it's not for you, you don't think it's a good fit, that's fine. But I get so irritated when I don't even get a response, So I try to at least respond to people.

Speaker 11: Even though I get a lot of inquiries, I will respond to you.

Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I will.

Speaker 11: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I will let you know so you can move about with your bookings accordingly.

Speaker 2: Yeah, there a.

Speaker 10: Point where you started to feel like, oh, this is really going to work, or this is going to catch on more than I expected.

Speaker 11: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure, I recognize that, and bringing people in that aren't normally from here is helpful. People willing to take the risk and come out and share their art with us, and you know, and doing that I've already gained just beginning Dan in there, I had people from town that it never even knew I existed down there, and they can so they don't want to come back. So you know, every once in a while there's people in town that follow these artists that will come and then they want to come back to more.

Speaker 11: So I'm hoping by the end of the year I have a solid crew.

Speaker 10: Yeah that's fantastic.

Speaker 11: Now you know twenty seats, you know I could do it.

Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb is this, Well, when is the show?

Speaker 11: Actually when Saturday? Next week?

Speaker 10: Next Saturday.

Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.

Speaker 10: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for you in terms of where you've played, because this is obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the listening room. This is, this is different.

Speaker 2: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah, for sure, to have like my own basically like my own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing this year are on bills with other artists, which is great. Yeah, is fun. And they'll be you know, thirty five forty minute sets, or I have a couple two or three hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in the corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this will be like, yeah, this is probably the only like solo kind of recital to an interested audience that's there just for and I'll you know, I have more time to you know, explain myself, you know, talk talk about the song.

Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about the songs. I can touch on that a little bit sometimes, but I'll actually have time to do that or or play songs. I don't play all that often, like I've been thinking about, Oh, well I have you know, I've been making a list of stuff I need to practice that I haven't played in a while that I'm looking forward to to playing.

Speaker 10: Yeah you know, yeah, oh very cool. Well we should play another one of these studio tracks that you sent us and we had talked what was we had talked off here about one specifically.

Speaker 2: Sad sci fi Part one?

Speaker 10: Oh yeah, tell us about this?

Speaker 2: Well? This My favorite genre of movies, or television or or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction, more nonfiction like apocalypse. Yeah, you know, if you ever watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one of my It's one of my favorite shows. It's like Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer, it's slower, darker, and a lot of times it ends just on a really down beat.

Speaker 2: And I just love that. I mean, that's what life is really. I mean, it's it's a horror. We can find joy here and there, but I mean we shouldn't be here. It's a struggle until you're dead. And that's the one thing we have guaranteed to us. And this is a song I wrote just the the the idea of, you know, we need optimistic people, we need people looking out for everyone, and I appreciate that, and I honor that I am not one of those people, and and just the idea of of what what I I mean. This song is less fiction, I guess than I think.

Speaker 2: But yeah, like this this we're circling the drain, I guess. And that's where on that note.

Speaker 10: Oh, by the way, Mariam Vanish and the chat room says outer Limits, one of my favorites can be so scary.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've.

Speaker 10: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think I've ever actually seen the show.

Speaker 2: It's it's fantastic.

Speaker 10: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sounds like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right, so we will. H So let's give this a spend. And by the way, where are these uh these are from? You have an album or I?

Speaker 2: I have a brand new album out called Cold Heart Volume one. It was recorded live in the studio in Summerville, mass by my friend Sean Kerran at the Napoleon Complex. And you just set up a bunch of mics, hit record and I just blew through my set, and uh, it was an incredible experience and it sounded so good that I was, Yeah, it's all live, no overdubs, and I was recorded in the studio.

Speaker 10: So kind of doesn't surprise me because there's, uh, there's a certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because I listened to the tracks that you sent and there's there's kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds it sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great, no headphones, you just put a monitor in front of my face, and.

Speaker 11: I feel like he mixed it well though.

Speaker 2: That's what threw me when you said that.

Speaker 11: He's like the energy is there, but I was like, wow, this is actually I can't. I was actually having a hard time discerning. That's great though, in a good way.

Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly. And yeah, So a new album out and if you you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.

Speaker 10: Excellent, excellent, all right, so let's give this a spin. So this is Sad sci Fi Part one. Yeah, this is Crying Caleb, check this out.

Speaker 12: He's coming to save. There's nothing out there, not a man. It caught somewhat, no difference to be made. The future is violence, then silence. But there is one true Now is the only thing that's real outside of that is what this?

Speaker 13: We're so concerned we are we feel now, we feel.

Speaker 4: No one.

Speaker 12: Is coming to war.

Speaker 14: Thus, no one.

Speaker 12: Is coming to teachers, and no one will remember the trials that week face these days they are also special.

Speaker 9: That how don't no one knows the way?

Speaker 2: Nobody knows no.

Speaker 12: Having done one way street turnball and I makes me what time is relative?

Speaker 5: We spend it thinking other.

Speaker 2: Things, way me, comar things me.

Speaker 6: No one.

Speaker 12: Is coming to save Buzz.

Speaker 2: No one.

Speaker 15: Is coming to who cares.

Speaker 12: No one is coming to stop us.

Speaker 2: No one is coming to.

Speaker 10: Collect sad side there we go, sorry sad sci fi Part one. That is crying Caleb, And that is what's the name of the album?

Speaker 2: I get cold Heart Volume one.

Speaker 10: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a volume two. I assume, yeah, all right. I always wondering when when I hear somebody call something part one only because.

Speaker 6: Uh.

Speaker 10: In the eighties, when Hall and Oates released Rock and Soul part one. They never put out a part two, so whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes, but it ain't gonna happen now.

Speaker 11: Apparently they're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so it's fine.

Speaker 10: Yeah, so anything, anything can happens tomorrow.

Speaker 2: Hollano.

Speaker 10: No, that song I was, I was commenting off air. You know, it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny. Oh you know, I like the I like the sense of humor, you know, very dark humor.

Speaker 2: But hilarious. No one, it's going to make me laugh and.

Speaker 10: I guess it's funny because it's true. Right, Yeah, I think too.

Speaker 11: What you what you did too with that song is you kind of made it timeless.

Speaker 10: You know.

Speaker 11: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is he talking about right now or is he talking about? Like what is it?

Speaker 10: What is it?

Speaker 11: Exactly? He's putting hitting the nail on the head on your right. You didn't you didn't put it in a box, which I thought was great too.

Speaker 10: Yeah that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of the lyrics, but in terms of the production because you could have told me that came from any point and I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like, if you told me that was recorded in the seventies, I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now, and I obviously a few months it was recorded a few months ago. Yeah, and it's but so it's got that timeless quality to it, which I think is is really cool. You know. I also want to ask you, so you're also saying off air about because you're you're effectively I don't know if you even like the term maybe not one man band, but you were saying off air.

Speaker 10: I thought this was a really interesting, uh comment that people will kind of suggest other solo artists who do kind of what you do all the time, and and you avoid listening to those.

Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine, and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm doing the same thing, but I don't want it to get in my head kind of thing. Maybe it's a

Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it I don't like, I don't want to be too influenced by the techniques of what other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like I and if I'm playing a show with one. Of course it's fun to watch, but like I don't spend my time listening like seeking out other one man bands and listening to them. Yeah, you know, for me, the one man band thing, it's a means to an end. It's just I want to play my songs. But I don't want to play acoustic solo thing, which is great. I know so many people who are good at it.

Speaker 2: I am not good at it. I want to rock and roll and this is how I can do it, and this is how I can perform my songs and I love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just a way to do it.

Speaker 10: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping for the percussion, right.

Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar, and an amp. Yeah, and uh you know I that's how I do it. Yeah. I can load in and out of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't take me long to set up and yeah, I go.

Speaker 10: You know, venues must love that they do well.

Speaker 2: It's funny because I'll play a lot of I play a lot of places, like smaller places, and they'll be they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll be like, you might be too loud, And I promise them I am not. Like I I'm very self aware of my tone how I want to sound, and I have done a lot of work to make sure I can capture that tone at pretty much any volume. Yeah, different wattage. So if I'm playing, if I were playing in here, I could make it work, right, you know, in this and I say in here, I can't see it, but it's a little room or on a big stage.

Speaker 2: Like I can adapt, so I can play smaller places and it's still sounds like me, but it's not going to stab anyone in the ear.

Speaker 10: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well, obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, drums, So obviously with drums, you know that's the one instrument where typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So maybe it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging to learn to do well?

Speaker 2: No, I mean there was a little bit of time, but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot when I play. I'm really to tempo and feeling like I guess I hate the word but groove of what I'm doing. But I was just talking with a friend of mine the other day. While I'm doing it, I'm not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once. It's automatic, like it's just I'm just doing it. Like and if I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing. If I'm playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo.

Speaker 2: What my feet are doing. I mean, I'm aware of them, but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I will crash right right. And it's funny because I am I'm not a very coordinated person.

Speaker 10: Really.

Speaker 2: I joke with my old lady all the time like gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else. I drop stuff, I constantly do, always bumping into things. Oh look like I'm moron when I'm loading stuff around. But when I'm sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.

Speaker 10: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like that was uh John hot years ago. Boy, this must have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt live and Conquered and and it was cool, you know, and he doesn't have like a little drum kit or anything. He would just stand out with his guitar. But he had there was a microphone obviously on the floor. They had the floor micd and he would, you know, start tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah when he.

Speaker 10: Started doing that, because it surprises the audience a little bit too, because you know, he's just out there with his guitar, so you think he's just because it was an acoustic show. Obviously, he did a lot of tours where he played with a full band, but this particular tour is just an acoustic tour and it was just him and the guitar, so you almost don't expect it. And then he starts tapping and there's obviously a mic on the floor. It's like, oh, that sounds really good.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean I've seen before I started doing this, I had seen a few one man bands perform and I remember loving it but also thinking like I could do that. M h like I could do that, and I'd even tell people, you know, I could do that. Yeah, And eventually I did that well during COVID times my band wasn't playing, of course, yeah, and I got really bored. So that was when I started like practicing it, yeah, and doing it and putting up videos and stuff. And then once things start opening back up, I started playing with the drummer again and that was fine.

Speaker 2: And then, like I said, when I moved up to Auburn, Maine, I decided to just do it one man band. But no, I mean people have been doing it since forever. I mean, it's it's a I like it. It's kind of a Carney Carnie trick, you know, it's it's it's a sideshow thing, and it's it's I try not the I'm serious. The songs there's can be serious. They're funny and like, I'm serious about that, but I also realize it's pretty ridiculous, and like it's fun it's funny. Sure, it's funny to watch. I mean some people when they're watching it, they're just like, oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 11: Just I love it. It comes out of one person. I think it's cool. You've surrounded yourself with ways to different ways to express yourself, and I really enjoy it.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I recognize that it's pretty funny.

Speaker 10: We should play another one. Let's see should we play what should we play?

Speaker 5: Oh?

Speaker 2: How She Dances is a fun one.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that because oh, I don't know if you want to talk about an hour after you. But like I was hoping that that would be the song i'd learn more about.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd heard, oh yeah, I had heard it's I didn't write this, you know, it's I had heard one of my favorite artists, taff Falco and the panther Burns, do this song, and I remember I just loved it. I loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking like I could do this song. Yeah, a long time ago. And then I like looked it up and realized, like, you know, I didn't think it was his song, but turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well, and this doesn't belong to anybody.

Speaker 2: I could definitely do this song. And you know, I think like any song like that, it gets changed. So this is my version. And I grew up an Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard. That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown. I had my first job downtown hustling tourists when I was like twelve years old, you know. And a lot of it's hustling tourists. Some of it's just like food service.

Speaker 2: Some of them is trying to rope people in, just rip them off, playing an impossible game that they're not going to win, okay, you know. And I just the whole art of the circus and the traveling people just fleecing rubes. I just think it's hilarious and like humans are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb stuff if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.

Speaker 10: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because.

Speaker 2: Well, it's a tourist town, but it's a it's it's one of the places in the Northeast. It's a working class vacation spot. It's where working people can afford to go where working people can afford to take their families and keep them entertained. There's games and rides. It's cheaper. I mean, it's not cheap, but it's cheaper than going to a gun Quit or Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay Harbor or Kadia or anywhere like that. It's it's kind of low grade entertainment for regular folks, okay. And so you get a lot of, you know, working class people.

Speaker 2: You get some affluent people, but most for the most part, it's just regular folks.

Speaker 10: Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 10: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only been there once. But the first time I ever saw a kiss was it older?

Speaker 2: Oh there you go? Yeah, yeah, that's a good band for that town.

Speaker 10: There you go. Interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna give this a spend. So this is see I didn't even know this was a cover.

Speaker 2: Yeah, when I listened to it, freesome, it's royalty. I wouldn't record a song that wasn't.

Speaker 11: I didn't know if you paid.

Speaker 10: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give this suspend. This is oh how she dances? And this is crime Caleb.

Speaker 16: Right this way, ladies, and gentlemen to right this way? Is he the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under one cannabis tent. See the Indian Rubber Boy, see two ton Tiny, the Black Lady, See Prince Jujububbo, the sword Swallower.

Speaker 12: He is also this state charmer.

Speaker 16: See the Lovely.

Speaker 2: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance suspended high the heads of the audience on a palid surface no larger than a silver die.

Speaker 16: She performs her dance to the accompaniment to a strange talk tom or his draw. Lit by a myriad array of thousands of tidy electric light bombs every nerve, every muscle, every fiber of her body.

Speaker 5: It shimmy's like jelly in the hole.

Speaker 16: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or they may reproach you in later life for this.

Speaker 2: I'm caught for lack of their education.

Speaker 3: It only cost a time two.

Speaker 2: Nichols one ten part of a dollar.

Speaker 12: You may receive instructions, but don't push, don't shove.

Speaker 4: There's room for one.

Speaker 5: A doll.

Speaker 13: Good man stood outside and another great side show.

Speaker 2: We have to cried right this way.

Speaker 16: We have the main attraction we must day the dancing princess Lemnal. She don't move her feet at all.

Speaker 5: Say she drew of the suns.

Speaker 9: In two distractions.

Speaker 16: We'll hire room Green pulled out a dime and he said, boys, I'm here to a half a time, so give me see now front.

Speaker 2: As far as.

Speaker 8: I'm welly stayed in there far hours about and.

Speaker 2: Last they threw part I m out and as they didn't, he call her.

Speaker 5: How she dances, Oh, how she dances.

Speaker 16: I've never seen such a movement in my life.

Speaker 2: It beats that dancing cost.

Speaker 12: What what is you all?

Speaker 10: And stay at Molly.

Speaker 2: You're changent to your wife.

Speaker 12: She wiggles, Oh how she wiggles.

Speaker 17: She shimys just like chili in.

Speaker 10: Both She has never seen streets of Cairo.

Speaker 13: I from a baby.

Speaker 10: She's from my.

Speaker 2: Town like this, White ladies and gentlemen right this way? Does he need mole?

Speaker 16: Despicable geek captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main, where he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents at the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive, he learned to eat.

Speaker 12: My ras, live chickens, and other living organisms.

Speaker 5: Yes, friends, oh, that.

Speaker 10: Is, oh how she dances? That is Crime Caleb from the album cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's the name come from? By the way, Crime Caleb?

Speaker 2: Good question, Well one of my I don't really believe in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed in a hero. Sure how one of them would be screaming Jay Hawkins scream and Jay Howland Wolf as another guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you know that title in Yeah my name you know it's Caleb, Aaron Colthard and Colethard is one of those names like in a loud room if if I tell people my name, they say what was that? And I'm like exactly right right. And it was actually my friend Heather who painted the cover of the new album.

Speaker 2: When she learned my real last last name, she was like cold Heart and I was like, yeah, exactly, Oh you know, yeah, I had heard that before. An old teacher in school used to say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying Caleb was just It's just I needed a name, yeah, and that was came up with it and I asked a few people. I was like, what do you think of that? And They're like that's good. Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10: Well, by the way Miriam said in the chat room, feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he an influence on you? I didn't think of that until Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three Tom Waits records I really like Yeah and Yeah. I like those three albums. He's a yeah. I mean, he's not my favorite, but I definitely the songs I like by him, I really really really like Yeah. But I'm I don't know if he's so much an influence. Maybe just it's in there somewhere. We know he's not a hero, no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.

Speaker 11: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came, and I feel the same way about you.

Speaker 2: I woke up.

Speaker 11: I was in my house last night getting ready for bed as like musical Santa's coming tomorrow, musical. You may not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa. I couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually met him. We've been talking online, I booked him and just getting to know each other. But I'm like, I actually get to meet him.

Speaker 2: To Yeah, oh that's cool.

Speaker 10: That's cool, very cool. Now what about so when is uh, have you started working on Cold Heart Volume two yet?

Speaker 2: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album called a few years ago and that was like my first solo record. And after that, over the last few years, I've recorded a lot, and then that was going to be the next album. But and then out of nowhere, I got a show in Massachusetts and I decided to make a weekend of it and book another show. While I was down there and studio time and recorded this and I was like, boom, that's a record. So I just put that out. But I still have all these recordings I've done that I really like.

Speaker 2: I think those are probably gonna come out in some shape or form. But cold Heart Volume two, I don't even know if that will be the next album, but there will be one. I imagine it'll be another one man band, live in the studio, once I get enough songs that I want to use that way because the other stuff I record, like my first album night Hoss and singles I've put out. When I record the actually record, I play drums and I play bass, and I do guitar and couples. Like I record it as a whole band. I'm still playing everything.

Speaker 2: I might have a guest play organ or something. I don't know how to play on it. But the live show is one man band, and that's why this new album is the closest to like, this is what I sound like live.

Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense when you do some of the shows that you do, if you have to play a long time, so you mix in some covers.

Speaker 2: I saw the originals, Yes I do, Yeah, I do. You know old country songs. I I don't do anything I don't like, that's for sure, but I'll do a song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead by the bow House, a Forest by the Cure Echo and the Bunnyman Morrissey.

Speaker 11: You did one recently that or I don't know if you did it recently, but I watched it recently. Was opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun the science fiction double feature. Yeah, I'd be that one. Yeah, I kinks. You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life, but I've never actually played that. Like I played a show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was playing a two hour show and on the way there I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of times probably, and I was like, I could play this. So while I was playing, I just start playing it.

Speaker 2: Oh really it's not it's three chords.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I just had to remember the words. And that was a blast, you know, like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard like you know stuff I do. Yeah, I do a lot of covers.

Speaker 10: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the covers you do might be there might be instances where people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right because somebody not standard issue cover.

Speaker 2: I mean, I often I try not to take you know. I'll mention like the songs written by so and so or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not. But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like, you know, working dudes who like country music and then I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never heard but they like it, or a cure song but they like it, and they don't even realize. It's like if they heard the original, they probably like, what right? Right? I really enjoy that, or the flip side of it, doing you know, a country song that a different audience might not be.

Speaker 11: You could do a sick rap cover if you found the right rap song.

Speaker 2: I used to, but in this day and age, I don't do the ones I used to do because the sense of humor, and of course there was nothing malicious in my my But I'm like, I'm not going to do those anymore.

Speaker 10: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6: Oh.

Speaker 10: The time goes quickly. I want to make sure we I want to make sure we get one more song in. But I also want to remind everybody, especially for people who are just joining us, about the show coming up at Prayers. I keep doing that the listening room. I think I'm suffering from adult onset dyslexia. Forgive me the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

Speaker 11: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com. So I've made it a little difficult for you.

Speaker 10: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring in.

Speaker 11: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars. You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal if you ask me, and it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday, July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, show starts at seven. Okay, yeah, prayers in nature dot com. You can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away if they show up at the door. It's just if you want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're gonna want to go online and reserve a seat, but if you show up, you know, I'm not going to be like, go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah, I call it the Wallflower Pass.

Speaker 11: You still pay, but yeah we're going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really excited about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb. There is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar. The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist at the mill that I'm in. So she's an art professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be opening her studio before her show for people to show up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs.

Speaker 11: So that's Blame It On Sally On Thursday and then Tom Russo, who you've met my cousin is performing.

Speaker 10: It's been on a few times.

Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, he's coming that Friday once again. They all start at seven or open at six thirty. And then yeah, Caleb on the nineteen oh it was Caleb.

Speaker 10: Yeah, excellent, excellent And Caleb, what should people know about? Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?

Speaker 2: And just you can google Crying Caleb. You're going to find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff, well not all of them, but.

Speaker 11: Not only fans, not on only fans.

Speaker 10: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.

Speaker 2: But I'm I host Slyly you know, Instagram, Facebook, you can find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of stuff on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff. And you know I have a band camp. But you can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me. He's not hard to find.

Speaker 10: Yeah.

Speaker 2: People say they can't find me. It's like you didn't try, right, right, Yeah, And I don't blame you. This is who's got time. This is worth It's hard man.

Speaker 10: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says Oh, yeah, I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's like you didn't try to try. You couldn't find a guy named Matt Connorton. Like, how many Matt Connortons do you think there are out there? There is one other one, but he's my uncle, so he doesn't count.

Speaker 2: Oh, uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Matt.

Speaker 10: Well, very good, and we will so we'll close out with this track to Live and Love in the Shadow of Fear.

Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's an ominous sid don't Yeah. And this is an episode of The Outer Limits, the New Outer Limits. My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the New Outer Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show was in the sixties.

Speaker 10: Oh, I didn't even realize it. They're going to reboot.

Speaker 2: Yeah, there was in the nineties. Okay, But this episode, particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong with the moon and that the sun probably went nova and that as morning comes, everyone's going to be incinerated. So he decides to spend his last night on Earth coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on a date, and you know, spends what they believe to be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't realize that Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.

Speaker 2: When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like, why would I want to spend the rest of my life with you? Like I barely know you? But it's the outer limits so it gets more complicated. But anyway, it I just love that idea, yeah, of the end coming and just knowing when it's coming and being like, what do you want to do? And it's like, well, I know what i'd like to do. I'd like to spend it with the woman I love. Right, So that's what this song.

Speaker 10: Oh, very cool, very cool. So we're gonna spend this in a moment. And uh, by the way, thank you to everyone who joined us today on the show. And if you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at Wmnhradio dot organ in my website Matt Connorton dot com. And Jenny, of course, you've been up to a lot. As always, you want to mention your your website so people can keep up with you. Al you can check me out at Gencoffee dot com.

Speaker 6: J E.

Speaker 11: N n c O f f U I and check out the latest blog and you'll know where I'm speaking on Monday.

Speaker 10: Yes, yes, very important, very good and uh Cryan Caleb, thank you so much, thank you, and of course Darling Hill, thank you. Oh and thank you for the wonderful sticker too. I'll hold that up for people watching online so they can see it one more time for the listening room at Prayers of Nature. Sit right down to very good, and we will close out today's show with this. This is still Live in Love in the Shadow of Fear, and this is Crian Caleb.

Speaker 2: I want to spend his night with you because in the morning it'll all be gone.

Speaker 17: Nothing really mats with nothing.

Speaker 2: He's nold more now, nothing is no more.

Speaker 13: Spending.

Speaker 18: And I'll hold you in my art while in halls fools dark and through closed eyes we see shiver, rigs, sills, bread holds as the lighting exists.

Speaker 17: Forth the last time. The futures is silas and it's cool.

Speaker 17: It's a hostile world where we won't be long.

Speaker 15: So it's spenders night doing those things we saw love to do, like watching movies and telling jokes, spending me with and I'll hold you in my arms.

Speaker 3: While it all.

Speaker 2: Starts to close.

Speaker 18: Eyes, we see shimmericks still over and as the light exists for the last time.

Speaker 13: It was the last time, You and I fading as want into the.

Speaker 14: Darts, U n I burning gas, want into ashes, U n I fading gas want into the.

Speaker 5: Boys, U n I bursting gas one.

Speaker 2: As one hard.

Speaker 5: It's live.

Speaker 2: It sings like a song.

Speaker 10: Sometimes it's loud.

Speaker 2: Caddie, what's going in?

Speaker 8: All so calmly skipping want P saying your sound inside.