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called the murder. We have two of the guys from Purging Sin here with

Jenny and I this morning on Matt Connorton Unleashed on Saturday, July twentieth,

twenty twenty four. Welcome guys, Hello, thanks for having us. Man,

Hey, please introduce ourselves and tell us who you are and what you

do in the band. Hi. This is Anthony Nacashtro. I am the

lead singer and with them Leaga toy player of the band. I am Brian

Barkstill. I am the backing vocals and bass player. And who are we

missing? So we are missing our new drummer ed Battles And to our other

guitar player, Sean Schaeffer is not with us today. Okay, okay,

now neither of them have been murdered. I hope. Oh no, okay,

just making sure why you look like you're about to say something. I

thought about it, but I don't know. Your hand is on the controller.

Oh oh, he's getting ready to just shut me down again. You

see this law firm. Yes, yes, but that's so. Yeah,

but as uh as evidenced in one of our our ads. Yeah, just

call one of those guys with the really catchy jingles or something. Yeah,

that's right, that's right now. Uh, Brian, were you were you

here with us? I remember Anthony you were here? Were you here also,

Brian? Yes, I was here last time? Yep? Okay?

And is the lineup the same? I know it's been a few years,

so it's actually changed since the last time we're here, because I think the

last time we were on the show, we had our drummer Zach King with

us. Okay, So yeah, the lineups changed a little bit since the

last time we were here. Okay. Melanie, Uh, Liberty in the

chat room says, I would love to know the inspiration for this one.

I think we're all curious. So so that actually came as a blend of

multiple stories, and one being the h the assassination from John Lennon from Mark

David Chapman, and then the assassination attempt from Reagan and the things the two

the one thing that they both had in common were both assailants were infatuated by

the book Catcher and the Rye. So I took all three and blended that

into one song. So the first verse is all about John Lennon's murder.

The second verses about the assassination attempt and his an infatuation with Jordie Foster.

Yeah, you know, you know, trying to prove our love to you

know, he was trying to prove his love to Jordie Foster. And then

the bridge section was about you know, the you know, the catcher in

the vibe, you know, and actually reference in the bridge itself in the

rye. And then at the end, uh is their institutionalized and they have

their thoughts. They got you know, they wanted fame, they wanted recognition,

but if they've got let out, who knows what they'd be capable of

again. So with that repent, I'd kill again. And and it's a

little it's a little bittersweet considering the fact in recent years Reagan's adapted A Sense

Assassin has actually been released for like what and like now he's playing and now

he's trying to start a record label, like playing acoustic guitar. So it's

just like, okay, I know, right, uh, well yeah,

it's I I was gonna say, I remember a couple of years ago,

two or three years ago, I was listening to Howard Stern one morning and

they were talking about that and and playing some because Uh, yeah, John

Hinckley Junior, he's like, he's playing shows, he's got a it was

like a live performance that he did, him and an acoustic guitar, and

they played some of it. Uh and it wasn't very good for one thing.

But uh, but it's it's weird. It's such a weird world that

we live in. And you know, here is John Hinckley Junior who attempted

to assassinate Ronald Reagan playing a show somewhere, and uh, I think he

kind of got shut down. I think his career, his music career has

already been kind of shut down because obviously he's a bit of a controversial figure.

Having an attempted to assassinates an understatement. But yeah, and uh,

you know, I don't know, like, you know, I don't know

how anyone in the music industry would want to, you know, attach themselves

to him. Yeah, I mean, I mean, considering they've had some

colorful, uh characters in the music industry before. I mean, even the

guitarist from uh, the former guitarist of Cannibal Corpse. He was arrested for

having human remains in his house and it was just like, so he's no

longer with Cannibal Corpse. Yeah, again, And I guess anything is possible.

I don't know how else to say something. I mean, people complain

about cancel culture, but there do have to be sublimits in terms of what

we'll tolerate, right right. I think I think I I would draw the

line at uh the music of I would be assassin. Yeah sounds about right.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so yeah, I wondered what the

uh so that's what what the song's about? It is? And Anthony,

you wrote the lyrics. Is is everything that you write kind of dark like

that or what? What? I don't think I have much of a happy

song stuff a little bit more doc than others. And it was funny when

I actually wrote the I think the chorus first in that song. I was

actually the music mall, just trying out guitars and I was just humming along

and I made the chorus siff, and I'm like, oh, I like

that. So I've took a little video snapshot of me and uh, I'm

just humming no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

Did the motive for you? Yeah? So I gotta So this brings

me to the story that I was I was gonna mention not before we came

in. So when we he originally pitched the song to our original lineup,

when our original guitar player Matt Harris, god Rest his soul was still alive,

We're just like looking at each other like, wow, I do not

like this song. But but then again, we were like in between drummers

at the time, and and just like the song just sounds just so disorganized

so anything, but like once we actually got a drummer back, like the

song just like really came together. And then of course it becomes the first

single that we released off of our second album, Vindicated, and it became

a much bigger hit than I ever thought was ever possible. I know,

hey, I've been wrong before. But and it was actually kind of funny

because like we after we had recorded it as a single, before we had

it completely mastered, we put out a a demo on our YouTube channel and

some other some other stations in the area actually caught wind of it like before,

and they thought it was like us releasing a new single. So we're

like looking at each other like, oh no, they're so they're playing the

unmastered track on the radio and it's just like, wow, we uh probably

should have thought that went through, But after we had it put on the

album, it became one of our more popular songs over the past few years.

So oh that's great. And to have it organically catch on like that,

you know, like radio stations playing the unmastered version, I mean that's

pretty cool actually yeaheah, it was kind of. It took us by surprise,

honestly, big, big time surprise. Yeah, LOT'SOK at the album

mastered now. Yeah. Yeah, So this is why. It's just like

if we if we have anything new coming out, it's just like we'll release

like snippets and teasers and stuff like that. But yeah, if somebody's trying

to get on hold of our music, and it's like they're going to just

immediately grab it and run with it. So yeah, yeah, I was

really by the way you mentioned Matt Harris. I was really sad about that.

It's been a few years now, four years September. Yeah, he

had never he had never been on this show. But I knew Matt just

from the sea. Yeah, and I forget what band he was in when

I first met him. Blackout Frenzy was one of his bands. Yep,

might have been. Might have been Blackout Frenzy. I remember it was one

of his last ones, but I can't remember what the because I remember book

yeah, because I remember when I used to promote Blushed Unreal was the other

one that he was with? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, but I think

it was Blackout Frenzy he was with when I used to when I used to

book them. M hm, And uh what one of the genuinely nicest people

I've ever without a doubt, you know, it's so and I get to

tell you like it just shows how much of an impact he had on the

local scene. Because as soon as the news resonated that he had passed away,

I was actually very amazed. Another show did a segment on him,

actually read his obituary on the air, said where his his wake and funeral

was going to be. And we just see, like so many of the

other local bands that he's either been with or he's friends with, just that

the crowd that he drew to his wake was amazing. It just it really

showed him much of an impact he had on this community, and it was

just it was just it was nice to see so many people come out and

pay their respects for him. It really was. We were very humbled and

you know, very floored honestly about the amount of support that you know,

came out and drove. Yeah, he knew a lot of people, not

just you know, within the music industry, but you know his work work

industry too. Yep. And he was just a very generally good hearted person.

Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, it was. It was

tragic to you know, first to watch it from day one when he got

the diagnosis to the very and it was it was cancer. Yeah yeah,

yeah, yeah, it started off as colon cancer but then just mess aside

to different organs and yeah, but it was one of those things where he

caught it extremely late and like he had all the signs, but he never

got checked for it. Oh okay, that was really kind of what did

him in Get checked everyone, if you're listening, get checked. Yeah.

And this is why the same thing, like every time I talked to like

somebody in the medical industry, this is why they're reducing the a of like

a first colonoscopy down to forty five because now there are more and more signs

of like colon cancer that are popping up much earlier on and it's one of

the most preventable that you can get, Like, if you catch it quick,

it can be it can be cured. And he was he was young,

okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, unbelievable. How long was he

in Purging Sin? Five years? Five years? Yeah, okay, okay,

yeah, No, I was very I was very sad too. I

can't believe it's been four years already that he's been gone. Wow. Yeah,

but uh, I mean, did you guys, what was that like

for you guys in terms of, you know, very often people deal with

grief creatively? Did did did did any music come out of that? There

were two songs that came out of it, and one will be played later

on the show is a song called Hell and the Horizon. Oh my god,

what a great track. So so that was the last song that he

has ever recorded with us, So I had no idea. Yeah. So

the second guitar solo in that song during after the clean Bridge breakdown that we

have, that's him playing guitar. But we also wrote a song and put

it on our second album, Vindicated, which is called Shell of Bones.

So the riff was actually composed by him, but he had not played on

this track. So that was a song that we wrote in as an homage

to him. Yes, oh I had no idea. Wow. Yeah,

it's a great, great song, great song. Yeah, I look forward

to sharing that with everybody. Now, So are you guys? What have

you been doing? Have you been playing a lot of shows or have you

been We've been very busy and it's I mean so obviously like a lot of

stuff has been kind of just it's been slowing down but also picking up and

summer now for us has actually getten very busy. We actually just we actually

just came off of a show at Tupelo Music Hall. We opened for the

the all female eighties metal band Vixen. That's cool. So we just got

that one, and then of course the big one that we have next Thursdays,

we're returning to the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion to play on the hazy

little stage before God Smacked Nothing More and Flat Black, So that's that's really

the big one. But Vixen did they play obviously they played Edge of a

Broken Heart that was the closer. Yet did they play How Much Love?

We were watching the most unfortunately, And it's funny because like the only original

member of Vixen is is Rocky Petrucci, the drummer, and they just debuted

their their new lead singer, I can't remember what her name was, but

very nice group of girls and they put out a new album just with him

last year. I think yes. And funny thing is is, uh they

actually had a lead singer, Lorraine Lewis, and they recorded that album with

her. I think there's this single was called Red. But it's it's funny

because like I had a situation with my Uh so, my aunt actually met

Lorraine Lewis a few months ago. She's actually recorded my aunt has recorded backing

tracks on a Lorraine Lewis track. So I was thinking to myself, I'm

like, so my aunt is talking up Lorraine Lewis about us, and I

was thinking, man, this would come full circle if like we got the

show, we're opening for Vixen, but then Lorraine Lewis leaves Vixen months before

we're supposed to open for this, So it was like it was this close

to becoming full circle. Like yeah, the fact that like they were talking

us up and then the next thing, you know, we're playing with Vixen.

So that's pretty wild. Yeah, I think too, like her leaving.

It was it was there's some kind of issue, right, I think

legally or something like. If I'm not mistaken, it was not. I

think it was like a creative thing. But I really can't remember what the

reason was. I saw something about it, but there was there was some

sort of a disagreement, as so often happens, Yeah, in the music

industry. Yeah, so the drummers, she's only original member, correct,

Yeah, and they were all nice people. We got to hang out after

the show with them, do they it's all out yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we have a couple of pictures on our Instagram of us, I

mean both me and Anthony with our respective players. So I'm with the bass

player, he's with the lead singer. So it was it was a night.

It was a good night. We had we had fun. Now,

what is so in a scenario like that though? So how do you,

I mean, what is your mindset? Because you have to know going into

that, this is you guys don't sound like Vixen and and you know,

and and the typical I don't want to say typical, but you know,

I mean Vixen. If for anyone who doesn't know, for for youngins who

might be listening. You know, they were you could call them hair metal.

Some people don't like that term, but yeah, you know from the

eighties. You know, they had a couple of big hits and but very

much that sound, and you guys are very much not that sound. So

how do you like going into that? Do you worry about that? Do

you? It depends on who we're playing with. I mean, I was

amazed that we actually got the show with Vixen. Obviously there's other like bands

from the eighties that are a little bit more attuned to our music. I

mean Metal Church when we played with them last year, they were definitely a

lot closer to our sound. But I think it's also a matter of like.

Because our sound is so unique, it's kind of hard for us to

pair with other similar types of artists. But as I said, they've they've

been booking some really great shows at Tupelo, And as soon as I caught

win that Vixen was coming, I was just like, you know what I'm

gonna I was gonna take a gamble on it, see if they needed it.

I was amazed they they reached out and they said yes, and we

just hopped on it. As quickly as we could. And then so what

what happens like is the crowd is there kind of a process of winning them

over? Is there sometimes is in these situations. I mean it didn't like

they were loving it from the you know, no, I mean there were

people there was the first table in front of us, they like all headbanging.

Good. Now, I mean we one thing we started doing. One

more is the crowd gets closer to us, close enough, you can start

like you can start playing like handem my guitar, I pick yeah, a

midstroke and go grab another one. Yeah. And it's stuff like that.

The interaction so you're not like, you know, ten twenty feet away from

them, you can you know, get you know, you know, there's

no mosh pit in front of you. There's still a lot of engagement and

interaction right as well. And that the crowd reaction was phenomenal. When would

play like clean parts of a song, they had the cell phones up.

That was when I was doing the hey hey hey, they would chance on

it back. Yeah. So I mean that that's really it's still always comes

like as a shock to me every time I do something on you know,

vocal wise, and they would spawn back to me, I'm like, wow,

I'm like, but it's coming. And at the same time, with

us being like an opening act for a lot of these guys, is our

job is to just get the crowd fired up, getting them ready, and

like, if we have the crowd excited and enjoying our music, at the

same time, I know we've done our job and we're very lively on stage.

We're not statues by any stretches. Oh right right. Oh, by

the way, I missed this comment. Or do you guys know Bruce from

Legion of Solas. I do not know. He's in Massachusetts, but does

a ton of a ton of work with musicians from all over New England and

promotional wise, and we had him on the show. Great guy and someone

you should definitely meet. But he he mentioned this. You know, we

were talking earlier about the murder song. He said, don't forget Manson wrote

a guns N' Roses song, which one was that I can't remember. I

thought he worked with the Beach Beach Boys Manson Charles Manson, Yeah, I

thought he's with the Beach Boys. Oh the Monkeys are I have to look

that up. I'm appreciate it. He worked with one of those bands in

the sixties. Yeah, I know he was inspired by Helter Skelter by the

Beatles. I know that. Yeah, And I mean it's funny much much

like any modern horror movie, like the best inspiration comes from the worst of

society. That was a quote I remember watching from a celebrity graveyard channel that

I follow, and yeah, they actually uh when I was watching that same

channel, I remember they highlighted the grave of head ed Gean, which was

the inspiration of like Sounds of the Lambs, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and was

actually the premises for Slayers Dead Skin Mask. Okay, so because he was

the plainfield butcher, the guy who would tear off people skin and use it

for clothing or lampshades or furniture stuff like that. So that that's what I

mean. It's just like some of the most horrific things like in songs and

media come from like reality. So it's it's strange, but it really is.

Now, what was opening for you? Guys? Opened for Metal Church.

Yes, that was fun awesome, So those guys, I actually I

met those guys back in twenty nineteen on board the inaugural Megadeth crews that I

happened to just win a free cabin to And it's funny because Stet Holland,

who is formerly of the band Wasp, he's now playing drums for Metal Church.

He's from Onset, Massachusetts, so he's a fellow mass native like me.

So we started talking over the past few years. Really nice guy,

and we've just stayed in contact over the years. And I heard they were

coming to town and I was just like, can we play with you guys?

And we worked it out, we got a hold of it, and

then of course the new lead singer, Mark Lopes, who was in Ross

the Boss from man O War. He actually took over for Mike cow after

he passed away in twenty twenty one. And it's funny because I talked to

Mark all the time. He's once again a fellow Massachusetts native. He actually

went to high school with a friend of my dad's, so and then we

finally like actually met each other playing the show together. And it's just like

half the band is like based out of Seattle and have the band is based

out of Boston. It's just such such a cool mix. But those guys

they're just they're they're hot tickets. They are they're great guys all around.

That crowd must have been really into what you oh oh yeah, yeah.

That was probably one of our more livelier crowds we've had, even though they

had they had the dining room table thing all across the stage, and like

I that was the thing We've heard from all the fans was like, oh,

we should have been standing room, We should have had much pizes.

It's quite funny, Bruce just put this in the chat room. Uh so.

The song Charles Manson wrote that Guns and Roses recorded was called look at

Your Game. Oh, look at your Game girl. It was on the

album The Spaghetti Incident. Oh okay, okay, and those of us who

are old enough may remember the album being pulled from the shelves as a fourteen

track album and being re released as a thirteen track album. This is why

social back Oh, this is why social backlash against the single goal. I

don't remember that. Thank you Bruce for sharing that. I actually don't remember

that, but I mean, I do remember there being some sort of controversy

around the Spaghetti Incident, but I didn't remember that it was that. That's

interesting. That was a cover album. Yeah yeah, yeah, very interesting,

but certainly not the first time that there's been controversy around a Guns N'

Roses song and it and a song being pulled because I remember at one point,

what was uh one in a million on song One in a million?

No, it was, it was before that, it was there, it

might be no appetite definitely wasn't on that. I think it's on lives be

and our lives might be, but you use your else. I'm sorry.

One in a million, I remember, uh, they they reissued that at

one point because there's a couple of words in there that you really can't say.

But yeah, so not the not the first time. But also guns

and is one of those bands that you know, made any kind of controversy

kind of work for them. Certainly the whole no, no probility, those

other things bad publicity right right right, which does have its limits. I

mean it's not literally true, but but it is true in a lot of

uh. I mean, even look at the album that was released by Slayer

back in twenty twenty one. It just like it coincided just terribly but perfectly

with like the days and the events of it. But it's just like,

I mean, they advertise themselves as like an as like an anti religion band

anyway, but that really caused the controversy because it happened to be released on

nine to eleven was the album God Hates Us All. Oh yeah, yeah,

yeah, yep, So obviously that really kind of like that gonna that's

gonna leave some negative backlash, but yet funny enough, it's like one of

the most popular albums I've ever released. Yeah, yeah, well that was

always a little the dynamics in that band too, a little bit complicated creatively

because Tom Area is actually a devout Catholic, yes, and carry King is

the one who's actually the Satanist Yeah, and very very much an atheist carry

King, yeah, very much. Yeah. And I remember reading an interview

once. I was always kind of fascinated by this where you know, somebody

asked Tom Morea about that, you know, and you know, you got

to sing these lyrics, but but you're a Christian, and you know,

he said something like, you know, and you know, I I agreed

with this point of view. It made sense to me. He just said,

well, look, I mean, they're they're songs. You know,

I'm not necessarily these aren't necessarily my thoughts and ideas you know, when you're

singing a song, you're kind of playing a character in a sense, right,

You're you know, like the murder song. You know you're not you're

not advocating for murder. You're putting yourself in the in the mind of the

headspace. And this is there's a difference between like and much like much like

acting, there's a difference between what an actor plays and how the actor actually

acts in reality. Now you look at like any of like the black metal

bands you see out there, like Dark Funeral, they pract just what they

preach, so they are they are the true Satanists, like the blood drinking

whatever. So is that true? Really? Yeah? Like that's what That's

what I mean. Same thing with what was the other one Behemoth, the

lead singer Nergal, same thing. He's a he's a devout Satanist. And

there's a difference between action versus advocated, right, Yeah, yeah, of

course. But even some of these guys who call themselves Satanists, I mean

there's I mean, because Satanism isn't literally I don't think for most people,

they don't actually worship Satan. It's just you know, like, yeah,

Satanism. So basically there is a difference between it, like the actual Satanism

actually believes in human sacrifice, drinking blood, all that kind of stuff,

whereas like the the LaVey Satanisms for and the the Temple of Satan, they

are basically just glorified atheists using Satan as their kind of centerpiece of focus because

it's supposed to be about the worship of the self ass as opposed to like,

you know, actual practicing rituals that are within the faith. Yeah.

Yeah, we had Jenny probably remembers this. We had a running joke.

This was a number of years ago, but we had a running joke on

this show, and we don't we don't really talk about politics anymore on this

iteration of the program, but we had There was Brandon Finney who was a

New Hampshire State Repkay. He there was some controversy around him because he had

come out as a Satanist and he's a Republican, so he is expected to

be a Christian, but he had come out as a Satanist and a lot

of people were mad at him and apparently he's not even really a Satanist.

He was just kind of trolling. Yeah, But so we had a running

joke on the show though for a long time that we wanted to have him

on the show to discuss this with him and explore the subject. But he

had some very specific demands and that exactly he wouldn't come on unless exactly thirteen

days before his appearance on the show, we sacrificed to go in the studio

and then and then he demanded that we This was when we were in our

old student on on Elm Street, on the third floor. We had to,

uh, we had to then after sacrificing the goat, push the goat

out the window and onto Elm Street and then retrieve some of the blood at

that point and so forth. So he had this whole thing he wanted us

to do, or he refused to come on the show. To this day,

I don't know, And I'm Facebook friends with him and we've talked and

he's been on the show, but I don't know if he to this day,

if he has any idea that that was a running joke on the program.

That is, I don't know if he even knows, And I've never

asked him if he knows, because in my twisted mind, him not knowing

makes it even funnier. Yes, it's just just to me. But anyway,

Yeah, we had a we had a running joke about that further went

on for a couple of years. You know, whenever his name would come

up, I guess I need to go, you know, opened up.

I mean I moonlight as a butcher. Yes, well, I I just

uh, you know, I used to say too, I I because I

said, I remember saying on the air that I told and I said,

look, dude, we're not zoned for that, and you know that we

can't risk uh staying in the carpets and things, getting on equipment and whatnot.

So he just I mean that's valuable. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

I mean there's and there's a fine line for this kind of stuff. It's

just like I mean, if it's if it's a ritualistic as long as it's

not really harming anybody, then I don't it is what it is. But

like when you start causing like bodily harm and ending life, it's just oh

yeah, you're drawing a very very quick line right there. Yeah. And

that's really where like a lot of these these these people who practice these rituals,

it's just like okay, human sacrifice, You're you're basically taking the life

of another It's that's well, of course, yeah, so or harming animals,

are harming any any living thing I object to, of course, but

it's it's like, that's basically just like crossing the line and jumping off a

cliff And of course, yeah, of course, how did we get onto

that. I don't even remember, Oh oh yeah, because we were talking

about themes of the song. Yeah. Yeah, But is Vixen the most

unusual show you guys have done as far as a match with other bands,

or if you have, you don't any any others that are really I mean,

Kicks was a boy here. I think you guys opened for Kids.

Yeah, that was another one we did last year too. Yeah, that

one I think was a little bit more of an odd match as far as

that goes, because I mean they are definitely a lot more glam metal than

than Vixen is. I mean, Vixen's a little bit more edgier than Kicks

is. But yeah, because it was funny, like Anthony had mentioned,

because this is the first time we ever played at the Vault in New Bedford,

and they're they're very famous for bringing in a lot of like the eighties,

Uh, metal bands and stuff, and I was just like, because

I knew the Vault, I've been to multiple shows at the Vault. It's

a great venue. And uh, he mentioned who we were playing with,

and I'm actually the one who was like super influenced by the glam metal scene

back in college, and I loved Kicks when I was in college. So

as soon as he said that we were opening for Kicks, I just like

immediately start freaking out when I like, Hey, Brian we Go offered the

show for this band, called to do it, and I'm just like,

I didn't know anything. I really didn't know much about Kicks, and I

didn't know if it was a fan of Kicks. So it probably came off

like as like a matter of fact type, do you like nonchalant, like

we can offer the show for Kicks, want to do it? Yeah,

that one really got me excited. But but the thing is, it's just

like, and this is where I kind of wish like the headliners could be

a little bit more respectful to the local openers because we arrived on the scene,

like right at the sound check, but they just took right off and

so we we were on scene, we were interacting with everybody saying hey,

And the only time we ever got to interact with them was like a couple

of fans stuck around after the show. I went inside because I wanted to

say thank you for having us, and I was able to talk to Brian

ForSight, the guitar player, just say thank you, and it was just

like who's this guy? So it was but I don't know. I mean

with Metal Church, they hung out with us. We were very sour merch

tables side by side, so we were interacting. I Shore was open.

Yeah, he was having some hip troubles. I got gore and stuff that

he is that hip surgery. Yeah, because originally they were supposed to play

once again at at Tupelo this year, but because he had to have that

emergency surgery, they had to cancel all their dates this year. Yeah.

But yeah, so and we we've interacted with them, We talked with them

backstage, they hung with us. They were actually like willing to just like

sit and talk with us the whole time. So they were they were what

we we hope, like anybody we play with would be just down to earth

and just social, you know. I mean, you're playing with bands that

are trying to be in the shoes of the people that are putting these shows

together. So and this is what we love is like we love to learn

about the industry. We want to learn how to be better, and what

a better way to learn from somebody than the people who are actually in the

Industry's yeah, exactly exactly. I'm trying to remember Kicks, like they had

a a few hipps. That's the big one. That was the big one,

big power ballad, but obviously like they had the long stripe and the

strip of songs from cold Blood to girl Money. Girl Money is the one.

I was just thinking about it because that one stands out to me because

I remember the first time I heard it, I thought it was ACDC yep.

And then obviously like the whole Don't Blow, the whole blow my Fuse

album was like it was like the biggest thing. But obviously Midnight Dynamite was

another great album. I think those were like the two best albums for those

guys. But when they came out with their final album, Rock Your Face

Off, I think back in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen something like that,

they had two singles off of that one, which was love Me with your

Top Down and the other one that they worked into their final set list,

which was Wheels in Motion. Okay, so that one was the one that

kind of did. But when they played the the setless live, a lot

of the stuff came off of Midnight Dynamite and Don't and blow My Fuse.

Yeah, those were that was really kind of what helped you got to play

the hits? Yeah? Did they did? They close with uh, don't

close their Eyes. They actually closed with blow my Fuse. Oh ok.

Yeah. And it's funny because we I had no idea that they were actually

gonna plan on hanging it up after after last year, so it was like

second to the last show. I think, oh, something along that later

because they did a they did their final show in their home state of Maryland

and uh and back in September twenty twenty three, they called it quits for

good. Oh wow, So they were on a farewell tour basically essentially,

he didn't tell anyone. Yeah, they didn't tell anyone. Wow. Oh

good for them, I guess for not going for the cash crab right Molly

crue. But I know, oh, I know, it was like swy

Vince. I mean, I feel worse for John five. I mean I

just saw him on Valentine's Day this year and he's he's amazing, But like,

for me, it just baffles me that he's working with those guys in

like Motley Crue and like they've got everybody in Motley Crue is just like so

out there. I mean, Nikki six, he's he's a bright dude,

but like Vincent and Tommy, they are just wow, oh my god,

gosh. The last time I saw Motley Crue, this must have been ten

years ago. They were on the co headlining tour they did with Kiss and

during Don't Go Away Mad. Now everyone knows Vince sounds terrible live, but

you don't, you know, like with a lot of bands, though you

don't necessarily notice it when you're if you're actually seeing them live, you don't

realize until later when you go find the YouTube video because when you're live,

you know you're in the moment and everything's loud, and you just don't notice.

But Vince during Don't Go Away Mad, you know the fast part at

the end, he at one point he hits a note that was so like,

what is that that? My friend Dan WMNH. Listeners know him as

Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the Randletts. Dan and I actually looked at

each other like what was that, Like he just was so And then recently

I saw a video of them from recently playing. They open a set with

a Primal Scream, which happens to be my favorite Miley Cruse song. I

was like, oh cool, I play it, and as soon as Vince

starts, it's like he's not even singing, He's just kind of blurting out

the words. Yeah, it was like it's so bad. Yeah, because

I think the last time I saw them, they were doing a headlining tour

with Hinder as their opener. This was at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion.

Guy, Yeah, exactly and one hit wonder But and I still remember

like, as soon as they go into doctor feel Good, I'm just listening

to him. He's not even singing half the words. But I mean,

that was also a tough concert for me because some more on behind me as

I was sitting watching the show, headbanging too hard, accidentally head butts me

in the back of the head and gives me a concussion. Really, so

I'm literally like I felt like somebody had driven like a railroad stake through my

head. So after after Doctor Field Good, me and my dad looked at

each other because like I was about ready to throw up because I had a

migraine so bad, and me and my dad looked just like we need to

get out of here, Like I'm in a lot of pain. This show

is absolutely terrible and it's just making my headache worse at this point. Yeah.

So, but yeah, that was I have to say that would probably

be the one of the one of the worst, if not the absolute worst

show I've ever seen in my life. And I've been to hundreds of shows.

Yeah, I think that one has to take the cake. It's the

worst show I've ever been to. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Now do

you guys have a favorite in terms of shows that you've played? Is there

one that uh maybe the Metal Church show. I don't know, is the

Metal Church is definitely high up there. But I think when we played with

yeah, Corn and Stained, I think is definitely the one that when we

played at the Bank of Hampship of Going Back in twenty twenty one, we

opened for Corn and Stain on the on the hazy little stage. Wow,

and that one was wild. It was I mean, so it was it

was very hot outside. Oh wait, no that oh it was raining.

I'm sorry, I'm confused in the other one from twenty nineteen, but yeah,

it was rainy. It was cold because this was in the beginning of

October because they had to John did they've got COVID? Oh okay, but

yeah it was cold and rainy. We played great the first set and then

back before they have all the new stuff at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion.

They had to change up because there was a lot of noise complaints coming

in, so the local artists would play a second set after the main show.

People were walking out. Yeah, and they didn't walk out, they

just stayed and they were on They were jumped up on stage as we were

playing. Yeah, the security had to start pulling people, like they pulled

sec They pulled security from the main stage to our stage because we had people

who were like rushing on our stage, like like jumping off the stage and

stuff like that. Like security actually had to pull them off. It was

very wild. It was probably one of the most liveliest crowds, if not

the liveliest crowd we've ever played too. But it was just so great.

Oh, Wow, that was the energy. We tried to strive for it

at our shows. It was so perfect. Is there any video of that?

Do you have any? We had the video from like more of the

front of the stage where like the like the mosh pit going on. There's

like guys shirts fifty degrees and raining out. These guys are shirt let's do

like a mosh pit stuff. That's what. Yeah, in the background,

and you can see probably a little bit more briant than me. Yeah,

but I remember like looking back going to finish. If you guys you don't

hit my amplifier? Yeah, really, yeah, no, And this is

what I mean. It's just like it's like I'm looking at him like this

is great, but I think we should probably get this guy off of it.

So I'm it's funny because it's like it's a pleasant excitement, but obviously

history history of aliability and huge Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Wow. Now, so what is the songs that were playing today?

We played the murder song and we're gonna We're gonna close it in a few

minutes with the other one that I absolutely love. But are these on are

these part of an album that? Yeah, I've been second album, Vindicated

Vindicated. Okay, when did that come out? So we released that back

in July twenty ninth of twenty twenty two. That was that was that we

actually took advantage of the pandemic and we still got together. We took it.

We took the time when we weren't playing, We wrote the album,

we recorded it, and that was when we ended up releasing it. So

we stayed productive during that whole time. Okay. Oh by the way,

Bruce from Legion of Solid says, I remember that show. I was in

your mash he was there. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's very

cool, very cool. Are you working on new materials? We're debuting a

brand new song from the next album. Well, two new songs. Well,

we've play We played one of the new songs that we had at porch

Fest in Rochester last year two year ago. Okay, so we haven't like

actually put it on an album. But yeah, we have a brand new

song that we have never played live before that we are debuting next Thursday at

the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion. So if you guys are Thursday right next

well, I mean we're still in the current week, so I sailed next

Thursday. One Sunday comes around, then I say this, so, yeah,

next Thursday we'll be debuting a I don't forget the words. It's always

an interesting take, Like the first time singing a song, I sing and

play at the same time. Yeah, it's always a matter of like walking

in chewing gum at the same time. You know, I'm playing and keeping

track of everything all together. And why does that ever happen live where you

forget the words on occasion? Yeah, yeah, as long as I mean.

So my thing I've ban practiced and it drives fine, No, it's

actually driving my wife not to find it. So I do a lot of

one ons when I can't remember when. Yeah, and I'll do an entire

song yeah yeah. And if you can imagine hearing you have six minute song

with that wan is going through it and that's all right, that's how you're

You're scattered. And with that, I mean, I mean, this is

why I always look at the drummer. I'm like, I hope you've got

enough sticks so you can huck one at it. Right. There's been a

lot of projectiles. It's quite quite hilarious, but I've never done a wan

on not at a show. I've always okay, if anything, I would

just like repeat a vose or something. You know, I can I'm not

even doing this long enough. I can kind of catch myself. I know

when I've messed up, but uh, you know I've recovered pretty quick.

Yeah, say when playing guitary, it's like you learned to recover pretty quick.

Yeah. And this is where like I try to stay focused on my

playing as far as like, because like if I'm looking out next thing,

you know, I'm spacing out and I'm hitting the wrong note, I'm like,

oh wait a minute, i gotta recenter myself. So this is why

every time I'm playing, I'm literally looking at my finger so I don't get

lost. Become the lead singer and you'll never space out, trust me.

There's too many things going on. You got a lot to keep track of.

Oh yeah, absolutely, you know it's we Also, the one song

would be one of our cover songs, actually one of the few songs I

can sing and actually play guitar soul at the same time. What what what

song? What do you uh? Megadeth? Oh? Nice, Well,

I mean I take the most of the lead vocals on that one, so

okay, but yeah, we're we're gonna try to do that when we've done

that one before live, but it's been a while, so we'll be playing

that one again live as well. But that's it's funny because, like I

know, Anthony does a lot of like he does all the original vocals and

stuff like that. But obviously, like if we're playing multiple shows in a

row, there's gonna be a lot of vocal exhaustion. Yeah, I've been

able to step up to the plate. It helps, It gives my throat

a little bit of a break. Lives when you're playing sixty minutes ninety minutes.

Yeah, you know, we don't sing laid back just like at all.

Yeah, I would. I would say as far as our as our

repertoire goes, Like I know, Anthony sings all of the originals, I

would say I probably sing like maybe ninety five percent of the covers. Okay,

just it just it helps give him a break, and because I know

how the stuff goes. Yeah, fun it last. Yeah, and I

mean obviously me a little biased because it has one of the most iconic bass

openings ever rewarded. Yes, and I get to start the song with that

one so oh, that's really cool. And it's timeless, you know,

of course the song is just timeless. What should people know? We're gonna

we're gonna play this other track in a moment when we when we wrap up,

the time goes quickly. But what should people know about? Where to

find you guys online? How to keep up with everything that you're doing,

and and and plug that show that you've got coming up again too? All

right, so you can find us online. We have our own website,

Purging Sin dot com. Are Both of our albums are available on all streaming

services YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Follow us on Facebook, we have

a we have an Instagram. We're trying to grow at Purging Underscore Sin,

and we will be in Our next show is going to be at the Bank

of New Hampshire Pavilion on the Hazy Little Stage, which is the side stage

as you walk through the front entrance before Godsmack, Nothing More and Flat Black.

We go on at six pm. Excellent. Yeah, that's a big

deal. Congratulations on that. That's very cool. Well, well, also

on Bands in Town and Viva Nation. That also gives a list of upcome

shows in sequential order in locations. Okay, okay, excellent, and before

we play this, Hell on the Horizon. And by the way, like

I said, I love this song, but just just quickly give us the

backstory for people who are just joining us, give us a backstory one more

time on this. I saw it, started writing it prior to Brian entering

in the band. I knew, uh. The original title was from Triumph

to Tragedy. It was about someone trying to come from another country to America

to get a better life. And I kind of twist things up. They

see the Statue of Liberty and their boats things for whatever reason and they round.

Yeah. So like you're getting so close, but then you know Hell's

on the horizon, you just don't know where yet. Yeah, And unfortunately

became like symbolic for Matt Harrisk that Hell was on the horizon. We just

didn't know we had cancer either. Yeah. And that was the first song

Brian ever contributed, you know. I showed him that the little bridge section

and he's like, well, I made this can I fitted in and we

ended up fitting it and he started you know, that was like the first

four a into him, you know, contributing to to purgein Sin. Yes,

so it's the first song I was actually featured on is and so the

the clean part of the little basin the loud. It was something I was

just messing around with. I thought it was kind of neat and we were

able to work it in and then obviously too, as we mentioned previously in

the show, it's the last song that Matt Harris actually ever recorded with us

before he passed away. The It's funny because like I was trying to suggest

a little bit more of a shorter kind of title for the whole thing.

I was just like, because we're going along with the theme, I was

just like, well, why don't we just say something like Hell's Hell's on

the horizon or something like that, And then that eventually became the title of

the song. So and it actually was a little bit more of a catcher

thing. We actually recorded that song as a single with a friend of mine

from college who runs his own independent studio, I don't know if it still

exists, Audio Pond Studios in Francis Down and he recorded it for us as

a favor, and that was kind of like the first single to actually come

off of Vindicated before the Murder became the other single that we released oh okay,

okay, very good. So we're gonna play this and uh, Anthony

and Brian, thank you guys so much. Loved, absolutely wonderful to have

you here of what you're doing. Love the sound, and like I said,

I absolutely love this song. If you are listening live on Saturday morning,

sick around. We've got Tom Russo coming up next in the third hour,

but we'll finish off this hour with this. This is hell on the

Horizon urging sin love, love, love, let it well, sa le

shayeat, oh God bank some of it dirty that duo dot that I do.

I'm living on line that time building dirty that jumped out and God go

my brons by and I feeling dirty that jumped out, Thank God fail love

then a line that did feel the dirty that dumped out and God go on

a by me what a two B two stories the door that there's a line

no man shot stay chess no but s ten to be old. I may

now my child man down that save that time bil in dirty that joom dot

bang time fell love living on line that I be dirty that jumped out and

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