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3:08 Speaker 4: Oh, I love it. That is elevated. The band is

3:11 Speaker 4: million Years and h We have entered our number three

3:14 Speaker 4: new marrow trace of Matt Connorton unleashed and let's get

3:17 Speaker 4: this up because we got a couple of the guys

3:19 Speaker 4: from the band Million Years here with us via Microsoft teams. Hey, guys, welcome,

3:23 Speaker 4: I am how are you doing good? Good good? Please

3:26 Speaker 4: introduce ourselves.

3:28 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm Steve, I'm the bass player and we've

3:31 Speaker 7: got our handsome frontman, which is Gems and the rest

3:37 Speaker 7: of the Lodd's currently tied up with Funny on the

3:41 Speaker 7: weight and so we're holding the fault at the moment.

3:43 Speaker 7: But before we jump on, I just want to say

3:45 Speaker 7: hop me forth of July.

3:46 Speaker 4: To use guys, thank you. Thank you.

3:48 Speaker 7: As a brit it's kind of like okay, but yeah,

3:52 Speaker 7: Helpy Forth.

3:54 Speaker 4: Well thank you very much. I'll tell you it's funny.

3:56 Speaker 4: Last night I watched fireworks with British people who happened

4:01 Speaker 4: to be here in the area.

4:03 Speaker 7: We've got a lot of shared values having me between

4:05 Speaker 7: the US and the UK, which is great. One may

4:07 Speaker 7: of that continue.

4:08 Speaker 4: There we go, there we go. Well, I heard it's

4:10 Speaker 4: actually Oasis day in the UK. Is that true?

4:14 Speaker 8: I have no idea is getting a lot of coverage

4:20 Speaker 8: with the World Cup current, you know, because it's one

4:23 Speaker 8: of the theme songs off the back of the matches

4:24 Speaker 8: that England are playing.

4:25 Speaker 7: So we've just got a well, our next match is

4:29 Speaker 7: Mexico is thee and then we've got to wait up

4:32 Speaker 7: till one o'clock on Monday morning. So by the times

4:36 Speaker 7: match finishes, that's three o'clock. So I expect no one

4:39 Speaker 7: in the UK to be at work whatsoever. Yeah, sometimes,

4:45 Speaker 7: no doubt.

4:46 Speaker 4: Now we're exactly in the UK, are you guys? Are

4:48 Speaker 4: you in Durham? Is that correct?

4:50 Speaker 9: Yeah?

4:50 Speaker 7: Just outside of Durham. So for those who don't know,

4:53 Speaker 7: we all don't live in London. Durhams in the northeast

4:57 Speaker 7: of England, just south of New Astle. It's close to

4:59 Speaker 7: the scottis. We bought and a half away from the

5:01 Speaker 7: Scottish border, so we're northern, northern. We're no more more

5:04 Speaker 7: than than Manchester.

5:06 Speaker 4: Gotcha, gotcha. Now this band million years, you guys haven't

5:11 Speaker 4: been around for that long, right did Did you form

5:13 Speaker 4: just just last year? Is that correct?

5:16 Speaker 7: So in its current format? Yeah, last year. We we

5:20 Speaker 7: picked up our new drummer and an extra guitarist last

5:23 Speaker 7: year and everything you've heard that that chimney you just

5:27 Speaker 7: played there elevated is off the back of that. It's

5:30 Speaker 7: our newest guys at the moment. But we started the

5:34 Speaker 7: band years ago, a bit of years ago.

5:38 Speaker 6: It's just a vallot. It's changed quite a few times

5:41 Speaker 6: and now we've got five of us, so there we'

5:43 Speaker 6: hitting on from there.

5:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. I love the single Elevated Now, that's

5:49 Speaker 4: that's the newest single tract that is.

5:52 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was I've released only this year, and I

5:55 Speaker 7: believe it. We might have another single the show folks

5:57 Speaker 7: there on the show for Yourself, which is Circles as well,

6:00 Speaker 7: which was at last last year. But we're just about

6:03 Speaker 7: to we're just about this month July and July about

6:06 Speaker 7: to block ourselves in the studio for a week and

6:09 Speaker 7: we're looking to put together a four track ap which

6:13 Speaker 7: we're hoping really shows a mark step in our evolution

6:17 Speaker 7: as well with some of the ideas that we got

6:19 Speaker 7: so heavier, faster, more in your face as well, those

6:23 Speaker 7: rifts outstanding.

6:24 Speaker 4: So tell me about the track Elevated and what was

6:26 Speaker 4: the genesis of that in terms of the lyrics of it,

6:29 Speaker 4: because my understanding is there's a little bit of a

6:31 Speaker 4: story here.

6:32 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah.

6:34 Speaker 6: It's about when people try to like put your down

6:37 Speaker 6: kind of thing and then showing them who's the boss

6:40 Speaker 6: kind of and coming back and being stronger, stronger for it,

6:43 Speaker 6: and showing people like you're not weak and you're strong.

6:46 Speaker 7: Basically, it's the proverbial middle finger, right, It is the

6:52 Speaker 7: other the other side of that as well, is you know,

6:55 Speaker 7: all us in the Bond, we're all mid thirties apart

6:59 Speaker 7: from yourself and the I'm the old man of the

7:01 Speaker 7: band on in my forties. Yeah, and you know a

7:04 Speaker 7: lot of people say, well you to be doing this. No, no,

7:08 Speaker 7: not at all. It's kind of the mental thing about

7:10 Speaker 7: mentality as well.

7:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's excellent. Uh no, I can appreciate that.

7:14 Speaker 4: Did like, like, did someone try to did someone actively

7:19 Speaker 4: try to discourage you guys from from doing this or

7:22 Speaker 4: for that reason.

7:24 Speaker 6: There's been a fair few, like in the last few years,

7:26 Speaker 6: like people saying you're too old like stuff like that,

7:31 Speaker 6: But obviously I don't listen to them.

7:32 Speaker 7: I keep on pushing forward.

7:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. You can't let other people

7:37 Speaker 4: define what you can do and what you're capable of.

7:39 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I feel like there's less I

7:42 Speaker 4: feel like there's just generally less ageism though than there

7:44 Speaker 4: used to be when it comes to music. Uh yeah,

7:48 Speaker 4: but but.

7:49 Speaker 7: You'll you look across the scene. You've got bonds like Kiss,

7:54 Speaker 7: keep doing the Red Last two whatever, you know, Iron Maiden.

7:59 Speaker 7: The edge of those go is nor metallic. Age is

8:02 Speaker 7: just a number. It don't mean anything. You do see

8:06 Speaker 7: it in the industry though that you know. Yeah, of

8:09 Speaker 7: course we haven't got the side of youth on our side.

8:12 Speaker 7: She was saying. There's a lot of in hour. There's

8:14 Speaker 7: a lot of younger bands that are coming through and

8:16 Speaker 7: automatically get some more of that attention because of the

8:19 Speaker 7: youthful looks and the way they go about things. But

8:22 Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, we love it.

8:24 Speaker 7: We don't really care what other people say in that regard.

8:27 Speaker 7: It's nice to get good feedback. It's nice to take

8:29 Speaker 7: a gative feedback and just from that as well, but

8:32 Speaker 7: it's always nice to put the middle finger up and

8:33 Speaker 7: steal what we love.

8:35 Speaker 4: Absolutely I agree. I can get on board without one

8:37 Speaker 4: hundred percent. Are you guys playing a lot of shows.

8:44 Speaker 7: We've gone into a slight into a slight remit while

8:47 Speaker 7: we're a bit of a break and we focused on

8:50 Speaker 7: the apace, So plent your practice and showing them down

8:53 Speaker 7: on that. Make sure it's tight as a dux bum

8:56 Speaker 7: all should be there, and and make sure I don't

9:00 Speaker 7: breached the waters or anything like that. So yeah, I've late,

9:04 Speaker 7: but we've got a couple of smaller festivals in the

9:08 Speaker 7: north of England coming up in August. Off we come

9:11 Speaker 7: out of all the EP session, which is quite nice,

9:14 Speaker 7: and you know, we are working with a few people

9:18 Speaker 7: with plans for the EP release show and some bigger

9:22 Speaker 7: gigs as we moved through in the next year as well.

9:25 Speaker 7: So yeah, there's plenty of foot plenty of foot. We'ven

9:28 Speaker 7: plenty of gigs over the past year and a half

9:30 Speaker 7: all over the Northeast and we're just starting to spread

9:33 Speaker 7: further afield now and hopefully trying to get down at

9:35 Speaker 7: the middle of the company and you never know, go

9:37 Speaker 7: up the big smoke, which is London and maybe it's

9:39 Speaker 7: make or marked on there at some point.

9:41 Speaker 4: Excellent. I'm glad too that you're going to be doing

9:43 Speaker 4: a couple of festivals because I always say those are

9:45 Speaker 4: such fantastic opportunities, not only to expand your audience because

9:48 Speaker 4: you get in front of a crowd that might not

9:50 Speaker 4: know you or might not be familiar with you yet,

9:53 Speaker 4: but also to just the connections that you make, you know, backstage,

9:56 Speaker 4: the industry people that you meet, you know, it can

10:00 Speaker 4: really be the festival experience can really be helpful.

10:03 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's that networking, isn't it. It's it's not you

10:07 Speaker 7: put your business on and you try a network. At

10:09 Speaker 7: the same time, it's so nice to make other people

10:11 Speaker 7: make and strike of friendships with people are similar like

10:15 Speaker 7: ideas and focus, and it's it's nice. It's nice to

10:19 Speaker 7: see the other bands as well at these these gigs

10:22 Speaker 7: and festivals, because you know, there's there's a lot of

10:24 Speaker 7: bands on and there's you know, differentially, it's across the day,

10:29 Speaker 7: who's playing what what kind of genre? We do generally

10:33 Speaker 7: sitting in that rock, alternative rock, post hardcore punk genre,

10:36 Speaker 7: yea in that right, So, but there are you know

10:39 Speaker 7: what bands at these festivals that sit down the alternative

10:44 Speaker 7: or even grunge. You know, there's a lot of that's

10:46 Speaker 7: still kicking around even though we're thirty years past it,

10:49 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's cyclic as well. Let's

10:52 Speaker 7: say the music come round in cycles.

10:54 Speaker 9: Yeah.

10:55 Speaker 4: I had a guest tell me recently, a guest from

10:57 Speaker 4: the UK tell me that grunge is actually really big

11:01 Speaker 4: there right now. Is that true?

11:04 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's what we've seen with

11:06 Speaker 7: the grunge saying is and I personally so and I'll

11:09 Speaker 7: go not only to festivals and stuff, I go with

11:12 Speaker 7: a lot of local shows, you know, on with old

11:14 Speaker 7: bandcards and badgers in my pocket and just to say

11:17 Speaker 7: a lot of people and really trust saying. But with grunge,

11:21 Speaker 7: it's kind of it's kind of meshed with shoe gears. Yeah,

11:27 Speaker 7: well so there is that that that's dreamy shoe gears

11:31 Speaker 7: grunge element that's going off, which is like a modern

11:34 Speaker 7: take I believe on grunge, which is quite interesting here.

11:36 Speaker 7: And it's it's quite nice. I mean, obviously you can't

11:38 Speaker 7: beat the old guys like Nirvana and Pearl Jarman and

11:41 Speaker 7: all that, you know, yeah, Alison Chairmans except so, but

11:45 Speaker 7: it's nice and it's it's yeah again, it's that cyclic.

11:48 Speaker 7: It will come back round. Trends as come back round,

11:51 Speaker 7: and that's that's where we feel. We often feel sometimes

11:55 Speaker 7: some of the stuff that we've released and that we're

11:57 Speaker 7: doing that if we've been around in the early two thousand,

12:00 Speaker 7: maybees we'd be more on the platform now. But with

12:03 Speaker 7: the you know, with with the way the music industry is,

12:07 Speaker 7: we feel as though with niche at the moment, but

12:10 Speaker 7: we're fully expecting that might hopefully expand out further as

12:13 Speaker 7: people come back to listening.

12:16 Speaker 4: Right right, no doubt. I mean, how do you how

12:18 Speaker 4: do you kind of everyone always say it's a question,

12:19 Speaker 4: but how do you kind of define your sound or

12:21 Speaker 4: categorize your sound? Because I hear you know, I mean

12:23 Speaker 4: it's it's some hardcore elements, certainly, but also there's some

12:27 Speaker 4: groove there. And see if I'm a bass player myself,

12:30 Speaker 4: so I pay attention to.

12:33 Speaker 7: You know, you'll pick my base line up.

12:36 Speaker 9: That's quite hard.

12:38 Speaker 7: We've been so many times. We've gone from alternative rock?

12:43 Speaker 7: Are we in punk?

12:44 Speaker 6: There's a few people compare us to Rise Against. I

12:47 Speaker 6: think that would be quite a close ish band, but

12:50 Speaker 6: not the same, if that makes sense.

12:52 Speaker 4: Yeah.

12:53 Speaker 7: But I think also because the five members of the

12:57 Speaker 7: lads away and we've got Enders on drum, we've got Donna,

13:00 Speaker 7: just guitars and vocals, and and there is the second guitarist,

13:06 Speaker 7: we've all got different genre styles that were brought up

13:09 Speaker 7: on and what we like. Jim, you like the Cure

13:12 Speaker 7: and stuff like that. Yeah, I was brought upon Makeewall,

13:17 Speaker 7: fled Zeppelin and all that classics. Some of the other

13:20 Speaker 7: lads that are in the more scale and you kind

13:24 Speaker 7: of find that that sits in and That's why when

13:27 Speaker 7: we get asked, we say we can't pigeons haul ourselves

13:29 Speaker 7: because it points there is thrash, it points there is

13:33 Speaker 7: a bit of groove and a bit of fun, and

13:35 Speaker 7: it's it's you know, and the points there is a

13:38 Speaker 7: punk vibe there and the pigeonholers is a bit hard. However,

13:45 Speaker 7: we'll take that as a compliment because that means that

13:47 Speaker 7: we're doing something different hopefully.

13:50 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, it's a good problem to have, you know.

13:52 Speaker 4: I mean, in the industry, we always try to categorize

13:55 Speaker 4: and label everything, but and you know, and there's practical

13:59 Speaker 4: reasons for doing that, but yeah, for you to be

14:01 Speaker 4: able to not be easily pigeonholder labeled is definitely a

14:05 Speaker 4: good thing. Helps you stand out. And yeah, I was

14:09 Speaker 4: are there any because I would imagine it's a pretty

14:11 Speaker 4: high energy show, right. Are there any videos of your

14:14 Speaker 4: on YouTube? Any videos of you guys playing live?

14:16 Speaker 7: Yeah's so we've got some basic stuff on YouTube, but

14:19 Speaker 7: a lot of our stuff is on our social media,

14:21 Speaker 7: so people can check us out on a million years

14:24 Speaker 7: Official on Instagram or Facebook, TikTok as well. Million years Official.

14:29 Speaker 7: There's some good lengthy videos there of some of the

14:31 Speaker 7: gigs and yeah, it's high energy. It's you know, there's

14:34 Speaker 7: none of these awkward sciences gaps. There's always something going off. Yeah,

14:40 Speaker 7: there's plenty of sweat, plenty of being being drunk, and

14:44 Speaker 7: plenty of head banging and saw our heads and I

14:46 Speaker 7: need to sit down usually afterwards, in a nice cup

14:49 Speaker 7: of tea British right, right?

14:53 Speaker 2: Is it?

14:55 Speaker 7: Check us out on social media's yeah, definitely.

14:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent, excellent. Jim, is it hard sing this style

15:00 Speaker 4: because you know you're pretty intense on the vocals. Is

15:03 Speaker 4: that you know? Because Steve mentioned having some tea, I'm

15:06 Speaker 4: just wondering, I mean, do you do that to like,

15:08 Speaker 4: do you do anything to take care of your throat? Jakemans?

15:11 Speaker 6: I don't know if you have them in America, but

15:13 Speaker 6: there's a there's a coffs we called Jakemans which I

15:16 Speaker 6: have every show and just makes lose my throat a

15:20 Speaker 6: bit instead of drinking like like syrup.

15:23 Speaker 7: Or how would everyone or whiskey.

15:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it really.

15:29 Speaker 6: Helps with me screaming quite a lot. And then after

15:31 Speaker 6: I've played.

15:31 Speaker 4: It, my voice is usually quite normal, so really good. Yeah.

15:35 Speaker 7: The thing that I've not about your your screams gimmers,

15:38 Speaker 7: And I've heard other people who will scream when you

15:41 Speaker 7: turn that microphone off. It's like a hissed scream from

15:43 Speaker 7: some other artists, you know, it's that force back of

15:46 Speaker 7: the North. This is what Gym's doing is generally a scream.

15:50 Speaker 7: He could actually turn the mic.

15:52 Speaker 4: Off and it'd still be loud enough, no kidding.

15:54 Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, so he's got some lungs on the

15:57 Speaker 7: lat I know that.

16:00 Speaker 4: Sounds like, yeah, no, that's that's excellent. So an obvious question,

16:05 Speaker 4: but where does the name come from? Million years?

16:10 Speaker 7: It was from May. It wasn't that an excellence? So

16:13 Speaker 7: after you made Gym first start of the band, we

16:15 Speaker 7: actually there's a festival in the UK called Download Festival.

16:18 Speaker 7: You guys might have heard. Oh yeah, it's quite quite

16:21 Speaker 7: a large festival. We were there about what three year,

16:25 Speaker 7: four years for year and we you know, we've got drunk.

16:29 Speaker 7: Jim ended up with kiss makeup on his face that

16:32 Speaker 7: couldn't get removed the entire week, and spent loads of

16:34 Speaker 7: money and we still came away with it and we

16:36 Speaker 7: formed a friendship and we're like, look, Jim knew that

16:39 Speaker 7: I've played in the band twenty years ago. Jim's always

16:43 Speaker 7: been into his music. Who was it your front Turn?

16:46 Speaker 7: And the Rattlesnakes you've actually played alongside and stuff as

16:49 Speaker 7: well in the previous lives. Yeah, and a long time ago.

16:53 Speaker 7: So we're both from the musical part, and we just

16:54 Speaker 7: said why not. We enjoyed watching and we always enjoyed

16:58 Speaker 7: this to me, let's go for it. So we actually

17:01 Speaker 7: started out in the bond name was pin wasn't.

17:03 Speaker 6: It's called portly emotion.

17:05 Speaker 7: It's a bit too soft like, as we eventually so

17:07 Speaker 7: we shifted that and maya maya on a million years

17:12 Speaker 7: is actually abbreviated to my it's a it's a measurement

17:14 Speaker 7: of unit of time. Okay, there you go. It's also

17:18 Speaker 7: something to do with the ancient Egypsian.

17:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of things a million years and

17:23 Speaker 6: over England people say never in a million years and

17:26 Speaker 6: stuff and that so quite a catchy as well.

17:29 Speaker 7: So yeah, every time they say that the same.

17:30 Speaker 4: Talking about there you go, we say that here too.

17:34 Speaker 4: Yeah it's a common expression. Yeah, yeah, never in a

17:37 Speaker 4: million years, there you go exactly. So what's what's so?

17:42 Speaker 5: So?

17:42 Speaker 4: So what's next for you guys? What what should we

17:44 Speaker 4: be looking out for?

17:46 Speaker 7: Well, the EPP, the one that we hope is the

17:50 Speaker 7: next step up, our next evolution, and the HOPE really

17:54 Speaker 7: defines our direction, you know, working with the various people

17:59 Speaker 7: we want to start it and you know, hence told

18:02 Speaker 7: me yourself today, we want to get you know, with

18:04 Speaker 7: our cousins over the US and get hurt over there

18:07 Speaker 7: as well. And you know, we're still slowly starting, but

18:10 Speaker 7: we think the AP is going to be the yeah,

18:14 Speaker 7: the catalyst to really kick on and we're very hopeful

18:16 Speaker 7: with it. So we're excited. We're excited to record it.

18:19 Speaker 7: We've been working very hard and I think when that

18:23 Speaker 7: comes out really defined and we hope it gets the

18:25 Speaker 7: right responses, we fail it will yeah, never know. It's

18:28 Speaker 7: as crazy, well, isn't it.

18:30 Speaker 4: Forgive me if you mentioned it already and I'm just forgetting,

18:33 Speaker 4: but was there any kind of an ETA on when

18:35 Speaker 4: the EP might be done or any kind of a timetable.

18:39 Speaker 7: So speaking with management, we believe that the way it's

18:44 Speaker 7: going to bear out is I think we're looking into

18:48 Speaker 7: just the beginning the next year for the release of

18:51 Speaker 7: the AP, which is going to do us quite nice.

18:55 Speaker 7: Sometimes you don't want to rush these things, and sometimes

18:57 Speaker 7: you don't take too long. We feel that's probably the

18:59 Speaker 7: right time for him, so they begin of twenty twenty seven.

19:02 Speaker 7: But in the main time, once we come out of

19:04 Speaker 7: that recording session and the master and everything else, we'll

19:07 Speaker 7: be but working hard on our live shows and what

19:11 Speaker 7: it's it never stops.

19:12 Speaker 4: Excellent stop, yeah, outstanding, outstanding. Well before before we let

19:18 Speaker 4: you guys go, because in a moment, I'm gonna play

19:20 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Circles. Yeah, another great track. I love this,

19:24 Speaker 4: So we're gonna we're gonna hit that in a minute

19:27 Speaker 4: after we conclude our conversation. But I want to make

19:29 Speaker 4: sure that our listeners know where's the best place to

19:33 Speaker 4: go online to keep up with everything that you guys

19:34 Speaker 4: are doing, with everything that million guys is doing.

19:37 Speaker 7: Yeah, the best place to catches is on the social media,

19:40 Speaker 7: So on Instagram and Facebook there's a lot of content

19:42 Speaker 7: and there I know Handles is a million years official.

19:47 Speaker 7: You can find us both on Facebook and Instagram with

19:49 Speaker 7: that handle.

19:50 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, outstanding. Well listen, guys, thank you so much.

19:53 Speaker 4: Steve and Jim really want thank you.

19:56 Speaker 7: For your time and I'll be forth in July. The

19:59 Speaker 7: years guys, enjoy it.

20:00 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, and if you ever want to

20:03 Speaker 4: come back with the King, all right, very good, very good,

20:08 Speaker 4: we'll definitely we'll definitely have you back on in the

20:11 Speaker 4: future because you guys, it sounds like you had a

20:12 Speaker 4: lot going on and some good stuff coming. So, uh,

20:15 Speaker 4: congratulations on everything. And like I said, I love that

20:18 Speaker 4: track Elevated, and uh, we're going to hit this track Circles,

20:21 Speaker 4: so we'll let you go for now. But guys, thank

20:23 Speaker 4: you again, take care you got it. Bye bye, all right, excellent.

20:28 Speaker 4: So that is Steve and Jim from the band Million Years,

20:32 Speaker 4: and uh, this is another great track from them. I

20:34 Speaker 4: really like this a lot. Check it out. This is

20:36 Speaker 4: called Circles.

21:06 Speaker 5: I don't want to start a work by walls before

21:10 Speaker 5: my jeweler's head because I'm.

21:12 Speaker 1: Spending Lon and I juice time talk again. I'm telling

21:19 Speaker 1: you my friends and she just up to me. Ships

21:23 Speaker 1: hit sound out.

21:25 Speaker 7: Sound together.

21:30 Speaker 1: I'm going out and around.

21:34 Speaker 3: By black out of side Shot and talk to Jacks

21:37 Speaker 3: by blinds project side by cover. I talk to the

21:44 Speaker 3: shower at jack Shot and last Chelson trying at jack

21:47 Speaker 3: Shot and Bob size the tough about Alcock sign.

21:53 Speaker 1: And now we don't know get the door. Do you

21:56 Speaker 1: want to know the force to raise and the heavy

21:59 Speaker 1: breeze and feed uneasy wrench the shore the.

22:03 Speaker 5: Time of time again telling to her friends and she

22:07 Speaker 5: just looks to me, checks something something.

22:12 Speaker 9: Trying again.

22:16 Speaker 1: I'm going round and very like a way out of

22:22 Speaker 1: side shot.

22:23 Speaker 3: And talk to hag Jot Bye bye jack.

22:26 Speaker 1: Shot by god ride a talk to hag Jolly at

22:31 Speaker 1: jack Shot. That's just a drop attack.

22:34 Speaker 3: Shot bob tize the top about shot.

22:37 Speaker 1: Side and so all again.

22:43 Speaker 9: Say you start.

22:50 Speaker 1: Fall again to say by so why wouldn't try him

22:58 Speaker 1: feet the song you went on? Did every word you see?

23:30 Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody, of course, Matt Connorton unleash. We are

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23:47 Speaker 4: We just heard Circles from the band Million Years and

23:51 Speaker 4: before we talk to those guys Steven Jim, we played

23:53 Speaker 4: their newest single, Elevated. I really love their sound and

23:58 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to hear what's next. You know they're

24:00 Speaker 4: they're working on a full length recording. Can't wait to

24:03 Speaker 4: have them back on So Happy fourth of July everybody,

24:06 Speaker 4: of course, Happy Independence Day. I'm gonna play Let's see.

24:10 Speaker 4: I've got something I think we should play. This is

24:13 Speaker 4: Our America from Eddie Singh in the thirty one Days.

24:18 Speaker 4: We haven't played this in a while. Yeah, let's give

24:21 Speaker 4: this a spend. I think it's appropriate for the for

24:24 Speaker 4: the holiday, for Independence Day, So we'll give this. We'll

24:28 Speaker 4: do this, and then we'll come back and we had

24:30 Speaker 4: some time, we'll do some some more music industry news probably,

24:32 Speaker 4: and I'll remind everybody about this is a big show

24:34 Speaker 4: happening today in Nashua for those of you listening live

24:37 Speaker 4: on the fourth that you should definitely know about. So

24:40 Speaker 4: there's plenty more to come, but check this out. This

24:42 Speaker 4: is Our America from Eddie sing In the thirty one Days.

24:45 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you wonder why on earth

24:49 Speaker 3: we landed here with the struggle in the heartland, in

24:53 Speaker 3: a disconnected fear.

24:56 Speaker 2: We got politicians scream insanity, line Cole watch ride through

25:00 Speaker 2: that seat. I thought we were all in this together,

25:04 Speaker 2: huddled around this Liberty.

25:06 Speaker 1: Is this my marry comes? Is this my marry come?

25:11 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we stand two together? Ras Wal?

25:16 Speaker 10: It's this my marry comes, This mile Berry comes.

25:22 Speaker 9: If it is, then we ain't even close to done.

25:26 Speaker 9: We gotta take it to the city.

25:29 Speaker 3: We gotta take it to the streets, because these profits

25:32 Speaker 3: of divisions are tearing down all our hopes and dreams.

25:37 Speaker 4: I don't care if you're a Democrat. I don't care

25:40 Speaker 4: if you love the States right.

25:42 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're independent. I don't care if

25:45 Speaker 1: you're black, cold white.

25:47 Speaker 10: This is my Berry Comes. This is my Berry Comes,

25:53 Speaker 10: home of the brave of free. This is mine Berry Comes.

26:00 Speaker 10: It's the fire Mary, huddle around Miss Liberty.

26:08 Speaker 1: We have not forgotten who we are. We bound together

26:12 Speaker 1: near and for you and.

26:14 Speaker 3: Me, You and me, You and me, you and me,

26:17 Speaker 3: you and me.

26:19 Speaker 1: Will we ride a meica as our own?

26:27 Speaker 5: So what is the truth? What is the truth?

26:32 Speaker 1: What is a meica? Through and through? Will you just

26:39 Speaker 1: open your eyes?

26:40 Speaker 4: Will you just letter in?

26:43 Speaker 9: Because I hear the blowing of the wind.

26:49 Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a pink house.

26:51 Speaker 7: Maybe it was just a pink coat.

26:54 Speaker 1: Maybe we should try to go. Maybe we should take it.

26:58 Speaker 1: So maybe we should just have some fun. Maybe we

27:02 Speaker 1: were both born to rhyme. Maybe we should just take

27:05 Speaker 1: a chance.

27:06 Speaker 4: What else, maybe we should just get up and dance.

27:11 Speaker 1: Is this my aby?

27:13 Speaker 9: Come?

27:14 Speaker 1: This is my mery come home of the brave and

27:19 Speaker 1: of the free. It's the army come.

27:24 Speaker 10: It's this Ramry come aroundless liberty.

27:30 Speaker 1: Who so Mary?

27:33 Speaker 5: Because the sum is paramry, because the son ees every

27:39 Speaker 5: voice every year, mister Somry.

27:43 Speaker 1: Come some is all Mary come come praying too to

27:49 Speaker 1: guide us clean?

27:52 Speaker 5: Down Mary us Ambery, every eye, every voice, every week,

28:08 Speaker 5: pray do the lords to guide us clean.

28:12 Speaker 4: This is sorry, America. That is Eddie singing the thirty

28:14 Speaker 4: one Days. I want to play one more song for

28:17 Speaker 4: you before we get to some more music news because

28:19 Speaker 4: Aaron Billodeoh, you know, we recently featured his newest single

28:22 Speaker 4: from the album Lid Liquor, his new song The Passenger,

28:25 Speaker 4: which I believe he actually played for us to live

28:28 Speaker 4: the last time he was on the show. But he

28:29 Speaker 4: is scheduled to come back next week July eleven. Aaron

28:33 Speaker 4: billode Oh here with us live in studio, and I

28:35 Speaker 4: did see him in the chat room also, so I

28:38 Speaker 4: think we should play this song. He's got such a

28:40 Speaker 4: unique sound and I love watching him play. I don't

28:42 Speaker 4: know if he's I know he's coming in next week.

28:44 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's playing to play live next

28:45 Speaker 4: week or not hopefully, but I just love watching him,

28:48 Speaker 4: you know, as a bass player. I just he's an

28:51 Speaker 4: incredible bass player. He's far far better than me. I

28:55 Speaker 4: love just watching his hands. You know what he's playing,

28:58 Speaker 4: so so cool. But uh, let's give this listen. This

29:00 Speaker 4: is called the Passenger, and this is Aaron by.

29:26 Speaker 1: A little bit every day and waiting.

29:32 Speaker 9: Unto guy way Passenger.

29:36 Speaker 10: Oh lad, I.

29:37 Speaker 9: Cannot see its store.

29:57 Speaker 1: Love.

30:27 Speaker 9: It don't matter what I said you want.

30:42 Speaker 4: That is a Passenger from the album Lid Liquor, from

31:45 Speaker 4: our friend Aaron Bilido, who will be here with us

31:48 Speaker 4: in studio next week. Can't wait for that. Welcome everybody,

31:50 Speaker 4: if you are just joining us live. Yes, we are

31:53 Speaker 4: actually live, even though it is a holiday. July fourth,

31:56 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, Happy Independence, Hey everybody. Matt Connorton unleashed.

31:59 Speaker 4: We are at the WMNH ninety five point three FM

32:03 Speaker 4: studio in glorious but hot, very hot, Manchester, New Hampshire.

32:07 Speaker 4: I don't even know how hot it is right now.

32:10 Speaker 4: I'm lucky. I don't mind the heat, although I have

32:13 Speaker 4: to admit yesterday it did get a little oppressive. Oh

32:17 Speaker 4: it's only eighty six degrees right now. Oh that's actually

32:21 Speaker 4: cooler today. I mean, hi eighties supposed to get up

32:25 Speaker 4: to high eighty seven. But compared to last couple days,

32:28 Speaker 4: that's actually not too bad. But that summer, what do

32:32 Speaker 4: you want. It's my favorite time of year. I do

32:34 Speaker 4: so love the summertime. But yes, happy Independence Day everybody.

32:39 Speaker 4: And we've had some great guests on the show today,

32:41 Speaker 4: all of them just happened to be British. But I

32:43 Speaker 4: do want to remind you the big Fourth of July

32:45 Speaker 4: rock show happening in Nashua today. Our friends Eleanor and

32:49 Speaker 4: Andrea at New Hampshire Underground and Terminus Underground putting this on.

32:53 Speaker 4: But this is actually going on outdoors at twenty six

32:56 Speaker 4: Sergeants Ave in Nashua. It is a residential area. So

33:00 Speaker 4: if you're going to I want to stress this because

33:03 Speaker 4: I can see how people would get confused if you're

33:05 Speaker 4: going to twenty six Sergeants AV on your GPS and

33:09 Speaker 4: you're like, this is residential. This isn't the right place.

33:12 Speaker 4: It is the right place. This is where they're doing

33:13 Speaker 4: the show. There was a sole thing. It wasn't supposed

33:18 Speaker 4: to be there. It was supposed to be somewhere else.

33:20 Speaker 4: That's not my story to tell. That's Eleanor's story to tell.

33:22 Speaker 4: We will get her on the show soon to talk

33:24 Speaker 4: about it. I invited her to come on today, but

33:26 Speaker 4: she's obviously very busy because she's got this big show

33:28 Speaker 4: that starts at two pm today. But here's the lineup

33:31 Speaker 4: at two pm. Six Minds Combined is opening the show

33:34 Speaker 4: at three pm. Aaron Billadoh, who we just heard, Who's

33:36 Speaker 4: going to be here next week. He's performing at four pm,

33:39 Speaker 4: super Child, five pm Sunset Electric. They were on the show. Jesus,

33:44 Speaker 4: it's been a few years now, I think since they

33:45 Speaker 4: we're on the show for a couple of years anyway,

33:47 Speaker 4: but they're going to be there six pm Born Fools

33:49 Speaker 4: and seven pm of course, Deed Harrison. They've got to

33:52 Speaker 4: be in the five timers club. As far as this

33:54 Speaker 4: show goes, I've interviewed them, I mean, I've interviewed them

33:57 Speaker 4: on other shows two over the years. I've probably interviewed

34:00 Speaker 4: at Harrison like ten times, great great band. Love those guys.

34:02 Speaker 4: They'll be headlining tonight at seven pm. So this all

34:05 Speaker 4: takes place again twenty six sergeants Avenue. If you are

34:09 Speaker 4: in Nashua, or if you're not in Nashua, make the drive.

34:13 Speaker 4: It's worth it. But yeah, big show today again, fourth

34:16 Speaker 4: of July. Rock Show Happy two fiftieth America and thank

34:20 Speaker 4: you to our veterans and active service duty members and

34:24 Speaker 4: so if you can it sounds like a great time,

34:28 Speaker 4: really really strong lineup today. Let's see a little bit

34:32 Speaker 4: of music industry news. Which one should we do first?

34:36 Speaker 4: I got a couple of interests. Now let's do this

34:38 Speaker 4: one first, because you know, I love talking about branding

34:41 Speaker 4: and trademarks and copyright. I'm not an attorney, I'm not

34:45 Speaker 4: a legal expert of any kind. I do know a

34:47 Speaker 4: little bit about this stuff, just because of my experience

34:50 Speaker 4: in the music industry so and with podcasts and things,

34:53 Speaker 4: so I do know some. I do know a little bit.

34:56 Speaker 4: I know enough to have an opinion. For example, earlier

35:00 Speaker 4: when we were talking about the latest update on Taylor

35:02 Speaker 4: Swift being sued by Maren Flagg over the trademark of

35:07 Speaker 4: you know, Maren Flagg has this podcast Confessions of a Showgirl.

35:12 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift has the album Life of a Showgirl. And

35:14 Speaker 4: so there is a legal battle that again I still

35:17 Speaker 4: can't believe it goes on, but it does. I think

35:19 Speaker 4: it's frivolous. But anyway, so I'm fascinated by all of

35:23 Speaker 4: these things. This I did not know about until today.

35:26 Speaker 4: I didn't know this one was going on. But this

35:29 Speaker 4: is interesting. This is another trademark situation. This is from

35:32 Speaker 4: Digitalmusicnews dot Com, one of my favorite websites for music

35:36 Speaker 4: industry news. Sidney Beach Brand beats Eminem in legal battle

35:42 Speaker 4: over swim Shady trademark. Okay, so they've been using this

35:46 Speaker 4: trademark this company swim Shady. It says here Sidney Beach

35:50 Speaker 4: Brand swim Shady has secured a trademark victory against rapper Eminem,

35:56 Speaker 4: who argued the company's name was too similar to his

35:59 Speaker 4: all ego says here, will the real swim Shady please

36:05 Speaker 4: stand up? The Sydney Beach Brand won a major victory

36:09 Speaker 4: in the trademark fight against rapper Eminem, who argued that

36:12 Speaker 4: the company's name was too similar to his established branding

36:16 Speaker 4: and longtime alter Ego Slim Shady. Now the Australian Registrar

36:22 Speaker 4: of Trademarks has narrowed the scope of the musician's claim.

36:27 Speaker 4: On Wednesday, the IP Australia Delegate IP for Intellectual Property.

36:32 Speaker 4: The IP Australia Delegate determined that his existing trademarks had

36:37 Speaker 4: not been significantly used across Australia. Evidence showed that Eminem's

36:42 Speaker 4: existing Australian trademarks for Shady and Shady Limited hadn't been

36:48 Speaker 4: genuinely used across a range of merchandise categories including clothing,

36:53 Speaker 4: bags and footwear during the relevant period. Moreover, evidence for

37:00 Speaker 4: further showed that there had been only three recent sales

37:04 Speaker 4: of Shady merch to customers in Australia during that period.

37:08 Speaker 4: The Delegate also found that there were insufficient evidence that

37:12 Speaker 4: Eminem to exercise the level of control over the Australian

37:15 Speaker 4: sale of merch required to maintain trademark protection in these

37:19 Speaker 4: specific categories. That brings up an interesting question that I

37:23 Speaker 4: want to circle back to. Something about this I've always wondered,

37:26 Speaker 4: and again we're talking about this is you know, the

37:28 Speaker 4: laws in Australia are not the laws here, but there's

37:31 Speaker 4: there's a broad question that I've been thinking about when

37:33 Speaker 4: it comes to trademarks. But we'll come back to that,

37:37 Speaker 4: so more to this again. This is from Digitalmusicnews dot Com.

37:42 Speaker 4: As a result, the Shady and Shady Limited trademarks will

37:45 Speaker 4: now be removed from several merch categories, thereby allowing swim

37:51 Speaker 4: Shady to continue selling under its existing brand. The main

37:54 Speaker 4: issue at hand is the timing. Eminem has long been

37:58 Speaker 4: known by his slim Shady mind, but he did not

38:01 Speaker 4: register slim Shady as an Australian trademark in the country

38:05 Speaker 4: until after swim Shady launched its own business. Ah swim

38:14 Speaker 4: Shady founders Jeremy Scott and Elizabeth Afrikoff said, quote, while

38:20 Speaker 4: this is an important milestone for swim Shady, it is

38:23 Speaker 4: one step in the broader trademark proceedings and we recognize

38:26 Speaker 4: there are still matters to be resolved unquote. Indeed, the

38:30 Speaker 4: Australian ruling is just one part of the broader dispute.

38:34 Speaker 4: Eminem is also opposed swim Shady's trademark in several jurisdictions,

38:39 Speaker 4: including the United States, the United Kingdom and Japan. Meanwhile,

38:44 Speaker 4: his legal team has until July twenty second to appeal

38:46 Speaker 4: the decision. In Australia. It's just the latest ruling in

38:49 Speaker 4: a series of high profile trademark disputes, including Katy Perry's

38:53 Speaker 4: battle against Sydney designer Katy Perry and Taylor Swifts fight

38:57 Speaker 4: against a real life showgirl. That's the story of the

39:01 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift thing, is what we talked about earlier. I

39:03 Speaker 4: did not know so Katy Perry, I guess I'm gonna

39:08 Speaker 4: have to click that link because now I'm curious. We'll

39:11 Speaker 4: go down that rabbit hole. So I guess Katy Perry

39:13 Speaker 4: has been in some sort of legal battle with a

39:15 Speaker 4: designer from Sydney, Australia named Katy Perry. Uh oh, so

39:19 Speaker 4: this brings the question that I always wonder about with

39:23 Speaker 4: this stuff. Let's go back a little bit and again

39:26 Speaker 4: I understand Australian laws different than in the United States,

39:30 Speaker 4: but let's see okay this paragraph here. Moreover, evidence further

39:37 Speaker 4: showed that there had been only three recent sales of

39:39 Speaker 4: shady merch to customers in Australia during that period. The

39:43 Speaker 4: Delegate also found that there was insufficient evidence that Eminem

39:46 Speaker 4: had exercised the level of control over the Australian sale

39:50 Speaker 4: of merch required to maintain trademark protection in the specific categories.

39:54 Speaker 4: So it raises the question. This is something I've always

39:57 Speaker 4: wondered about. What if someone trademarks something, They trademark a name,

40:01 Speaker 4: and then they just never do anything with it, so

40:04 Speaker 4: they own the trademark and then they just they just

40:08 Speaker 4: park it. I don't know if that would be the

40:10 Speaker 4: right term. We use that term when it comes to

40:12 Speaker 4: website domains. You know, if you buy a web domain

40:15 Speaker 4: and you and you park it, you just you don't

40:17 Speaker 4: do anything with it. You just own it because you

40:19 Speaker 4: want to own it in case somebody needs it, they're

40:22 Speaker 4: gonna have to pay you for it. What's to prevent

40:25 Speaker 4: people from doing that with trademarks? Is there anything to

40:28 Speaker 4: prevent people from doing that with trademarks? If you just

40:31 Speaker 4: think of something that's a cool name and you find

40:33 Speaker 4: out nobody has it yet, and you say, I'm gonna

40:35 Speaker 4: trademark that, so if somebody wants to use that, they're

40:37 Speaker 4: gonna have to come to me for it, or I'm

40:39 Speaker 4: gonna get some sort of some sort of money from that.

40:44 Speaker 4: What's to prevent people from doing that? And I don't

40:47 Speaker 4: know Apparently in the Australia system of doing this, there

40:54 Speaker 4: is sort of a safeguard built in against people being

40:56 Speaker 4: able to do that because if you buy a trademark,

40:59 Speaker 4: but then you're not using it. So in other words, Eminem,

41:02 Speaker 4: after the swim Shady brand launched, Eminem his legal team

41:07 Speaker 4: went ahead and filed this trademark in Australia, right retroactively

41:14 Speaker 4: in effect. Right, but if they're not doing anything with it,

41:20 Speaker 4: and they're not going to do anything with it, I mean,

41:22 Speaker 4: it's almost a form of harassment in a way. Now,

41:27 Speaker 4: the way that Eminem's legal team probably argues it is

41:30 Speaker 4: they would say, well, if it were not for slim Shady,

41:35 Speaker 4: there would be no swim Shady because obviously the point

41:39 Speaker 4: of the name swim shady, that's a play on the

41:42 Speaker 4: name slim shady, right, swomen's slim rhyme, and it's you know,

41:46 Speaker 4: it's not hard to figure out. In other words, if

41:48 Speaker 4: Eminem had never used the slim Shady alter ego and

41:52 Speaker 4: use that name, the swim Shady brand would not exist.

41:56 Speaker 4: They would they would have called it something else, right,

42:00 Speaker 4: So that's probably how Eminem's legal team argues it and

42:04 Speaker 4: why it's trademark infringement. But it sounds like in Australia,

42:07 Speaker 4: if you own a trademark but then you're not using it,

42:11 Speaker 4: you're just parking it. Again, I don't know if that's

42:13 Speaker 4: the term when it comes to trademarks. You can't just

42:15 Speaker 4: claim it in perpetuity that your trademark is being infringed upon.

42:19 Speaker 4: And again I don't know if if the US Patent Office,

42:24 Speaker 4: for example, treats that the same way. I don't know

42:27 Speaker 4: if they do. I hope that they do, because I

42:30 Speaker 4: think that they should, because you shouldn't be able to

42:33 Speaker 4: just buy a trademark just to have it and then

42:35 Speaker 4: never do anything with it, and then be able to

42:40 Speaker 4: sue somebody because they're using it, especially if because I

42:44 Speaker 4: assume the swim Shady trademark was approved by Australia's what

42:50 Speaker 4: is it IP delegate, right, so now they're using it.

42:55 Speaker 4: You don't just you know, if you're a big company

42:58 Speaker 4: like that, you're not just going to you know, like

43:02 Speaker 4: a big swimwear company or whatever. You're not just going

43:05 Speaker 4: to start using a trademark without being sure that you

43:07 Speaker 4: can legally right anyway. So I've just always that's something

43:12 Speaker 4: I've always wondered about what's to stop people from abusing

43:15 Speaker 4: the trademark system. It's not that expensive. I know because

43:18 Speaker 4: I've done it. It's not that expensive to file for

43:21 Speaker 4: a trademark. So what's to prevent someone from just buying

43:25 Speaker 4: up lots and lots of trademarks that they think someone's

43:27 Speaker 4: going to want to use, or if you have knowledge,

43:32 Speaker 4: almost like insider trading, although that's definitely not the right

43:35 Speaker 4: term in this I don't know what the term would

43:36 Speaker 4: be here, But if you have knowledge that somebody is

43:41 Speaker 4: going to be wanting to trademark something potentially, and you

43:45 Speaker 4: have some sort of insider knowledge about that, and you say, oh,

43:48 Speaker 4: I'm going to go, I'm going to run and register

43:50 Speaker 4: this trademark. Now, I do know in the US Trademark

43:56 Speaker 4: and Patent Office they don't us. They don't just give

44:02 Speaker 4: out trademarks like candy. You do have to supply some documentation.

44:06 Speaker 4: But again, what's to prevent someone from just kind of

44:10 Speaker 4: doing that frivolously and presenting that they have the intentions

44:14 Speaker 4: of using this trademark for something, but then in the

44:17 Speaker 4: end they don't use it, they're just parking it. So

44:20 Speaker 4: it's something I wonder about Now I am. I wasn't

44:23 Speaker 4: planning on doing this, but now I'm curious. I'm going

44:26 Speaker 4: to click this and see what this Katy Perry thing

44:30 Speaker 4: is all about. So apparently, oh, this happened back in

44:33 Speaker 4: April and twenty twenty three, so this is not recent news,

44:36 Speaker 4: but I do think it's relevant. So and that's why

44:39 Speaker 4: they included the link in the article. So I'm just

44:40 Speaker 4: gonna go ahead and look at this. This is from

44:42 Speaker 4: Digital Musicnews dot com. Katie Perry beats Katy Perry in

44:45 Speaker 4: a David and Goliath trademark battle, saying this is a

44:48 Speaker 4: win for small business. Ah okay, all right, So singer

44:52 Speaker 4: Katy Perry has lost a trademark lawsuit by Australian fashion

44:57 Speaker 4: designer Katy Perry. Katy Perry sued the Pops Are for

45:00 Speaker 4: allegedly infringing the designer's trademark with her merchandise. Oh interesting, okay,

45:05 Speaker 4: So on Friday April twenty eight, and again keep in

45:07 Speaker 4: mind this is a few years ago. Justice Bridget Markovic

45:13 Speaker 4: or Markovic ruled that clothing sold during Katy Perry's twenty

45:17 Speaker 4: fourteen Australia tour breached designer and small business owner Katie

45:21 Speaker 4: Perry's trademark, Katie's company, Kitty Purry must pay damages to

45:26 Speaker 4: Katie Katie the Australian Designer, apparently, the amount of which

45:31 Speaker 4: will be determined in May. So we won't go through

45:34 Speaker 4: the whole thing because again it's old news. It's from

45:35 Speaker 4: a few years ago. But that's an example of but

45:39 Speaker 4: again this. Oh, and they do spell them differently, by

45:43 Speaker 4: the way. So Katie Perry the Australian Designer spells it Katie,

45:49 Speaker 4: and of course Katy Perry spells it. You know, the

45:51 Speaker 4: singer calls it, spells it kat Y. Okay, what was

45:56 Speaker 4: the other thing we had? Oh, this is interesting because

45:59 Speaker 4: A obviously is a subject that comes up quite a

46:03 Speaker 4: bit on the show. We talked about AI and its

46:06 Speaker 4: impact on the music industry and in entertainment and some

46:10 Speaker 4: of the other some of the other you know, potential

46:13 Speaker 4: problems that it may raise. This is about weird Al Yankovic,

46:18 Speaker 4: by the way, I'm a weird alfan. Weird Al Yankovic

46:21 Speaker 4: abruptly pulls out of a lucrative AI ad spot, saying

46:25 Speaker 4: that he can't be the poster boy for AI. And

46:28 Speaker 4: this is something new that I was not aware of it, says.

46:30 Speaker 4: Weird Al reveals that he was offered a lucrative ad

46:33 Speaker 4: spot for productivity software, but he backed out once he

46:36 Speaker 4: realized the product involved AI. I'm not a fan of AI.

46:40 Speaker 4: Quote unquote Again, this is from Digital Musicnews dot Com.

46:43 Speaker 4: Parody king weird Al Yankovic sat down for an interview

46:47 Speaker 4: with Syracuse dot Com ahead of his Syracuse stop on

46:50 Speaker 4: his Bigger and Weirder tour, where he revealed that he

46:54 Speaker 4: was offered a nice pile of money to appear in

46:56 Speaker 4: a commercial for productivity focused business software, but once he

47:01 Speaker 4: realized the project involved AI, he backed out. Quote. I'm

47:08 Speaker 4: not going to mention any names, but they told me

47:10 Speaker 4: it was for a business. It was business software that

47:13 Speaker 4: would increase productivity. I said, oh, well, yeah, sure I

47:17 Speaker 4: could do that. And then a week before we're supposed

47:19 Speaker 4: to shoot it, I find out this is AI, and

47:22 Speaker 4: I thought, oh no, I can't be the poster boy

47:24 Speaker 4: for AI. Forget it. So I felt bad about kind

47:27 Speaker 4: of pulling out at the last minute, but yeah, I'm

47:29 Speaker 4: not down with that unquote. The musician is very familiar

47:35 Speaker 4: with the weird Al jokes that have cropped up on

47:40 Speaker 4: on online sites since the rise of artificial intelligence, but

47:46 Speaker 4: he has made it clear that he is not a

47:47 Speaker 4: fan of AI. Oh the weird AI jokes? Is that

47:51 Speaker 4: what it is? Meanwhile, besides history, Yankovic is working on

47:54 Speaker 4: a Broadway musical. All right, m we won't get into that,

48:01 Speaker 4: but I'd be curious to know. Though. Here's the thing

48:08 Speaker 4: about this, and again I respect his decision, but I

48:13 Speaker 4: would just be curious to know when he says, well,

48:16 Speaker 4: I found out the software was AI. Is there an

48:20 Speaker 4: AI component to it? Is it literally like a chat chept?

48:23 Speaker 10: Like?

48:24 Speaker 4: What are we talking about here? Because you know AI?

48:29 Speaker 4: I mean, we can pretend it's like this brand new thing,

48:31 Speaker 4: but it's not. Lots of things have been using you know,

48:34 Speaker 4: we talk about this when we talk about how you know,

48:36 Speaker 4: these platforms are now trying to like Spotify, they're now

48:40 Speaker 4: trying to flag AI generated music and it's like, okay, cool,

48:44 Speaker 4: but some people are going to get caught up in

48:47 Speaker 4: the net because you know, every major recording studio with

48:51 Speaker 4: with you know, advanced software. You know some of those

48:54 Speaker 4: programs have AI components in them. If you've interacted with

49:00 Speaker 4: the chatbot online, maybe you're trying to get service from

49:03 Speaker 4: a company and you're talking to a chatbot. You know,

49:06 Speaker 4: that's been going on for at least twenty years, maybe longer.

49:08 Speaker 4: That's that's an example of AI. So it's not like

49:10 Speaker 4: it's a new thing. I'm just curious, like when when

49:13 Speaker 4: he says, well, I found out the software was AI,

49:16 Speaker 4: what does that mean exactly? I would like to know

49:19 Speaker 4: more about that. Again, I'm not you know, I'm certainly

49:22 Speaker 4: not criticizing him or his decision or anything like that.

49:25 Speaker 4: I respect it, but I just I'm I would be

49:28 Speaker 4: curious to know more. And I wonder if if any

49:33 Speaker 4: of you might feel the same way about that. I

49:36 Speaker 4: just would be I just would be curious, curious to

49:41 Speaker 4: know more about that. Yeah, we have time for one

49:48 Speaker 4: more quick thing. Also, digital music news reporting this, Spotify

49:52 Speaker 4: shows up a lot in the news, especially lately. Spotify

49:57 Speaker 4: asked judge to shift undisclosed filtering practice his lawsuit to

50:00 Speaker 4: federal court. Spotify has officially moved to shift to federal

50:05 Speaker 4: court the undisclosed filtering practices lawsuit filed against it by

50:10 Speaker 4: artists and attorney Mark Crater. I know a little bit

50:14 Speaker 4: about this, but it says here Spotify set that shift

50:18 Speaker 4: in motion with a notice of removal yesterday after Crater

50:21 Speaker 4: fired off an amended complaint and aggressively sought an injunction

50:24 Speaker 4: in late June. But to recap, the plaintiff maintains that

50:31 Speaker 4: Spotify in March retooled its streaming and recommendation system without

50:38 Speaker 4: informing the public or artists themselves. The alleged pivot fueled

50:43 Speaker 4: a sudden, simultaneous and systemic collapse in streams across Crowter's

50:49 Speaker 4: multiple artists profiles. According to the complaint, Okay, that's very interesting.

50:54 Speaker 4: So in other words, he's basically he's suing, saying, look,

50:57 Speaker 4: Spotify has changed the way that they do this, the

51:01 Speaker 4: way they do their filtering system, and because of that change,

51:04 Speaker 4: my streams, my streaming numbers are way down. I'm not

51:08 Speaker 4: getting the traffic I was.

51:11 Speaker 7: I have.

51:12 Speaker 4: I have a gut reaction to that. But we'll finish

51:15 Speaker 4: this article quickly and then we'll I'll tell you what

51:17 Speaker 4: I think. So it refers to five artist pages for

51:22 Speaker 4: the amended action, and Spotify is just submitted retort. However,

51:26 Speaker 4: upon closer inspection, the plaintiff appears to operate additional profiles

51:30 Speaker 4: as well, like a distinct mark Crater band singles page

51:36 Speaker 4: on top of the main mark crater band profile, for instance,

51:40 Speaker 4: that can be a problem having too many profiles and

51:43 Speaker 4: with actual consumption data factoring prominently into the action. Crater

51:47 Speaker 4: is accusing Spotify of making the relevant changes to boost

51:51 Speaker 4: major label catalogs at the expense of indies. Now Spotify

51:56 Speaker 4: is weighed in on the suit and filed to shift

51:59 Speaker 4: the showdown from the Stanford Superior Court to the US

52:04 Speaker 4: District Court for the District of Connecticut. There's more here

52:14 Speaker 4: about that, specifically about what Cratter is trying to do

52:18 Speaker 4: in terms of moving the case to the US District Court.

52:23 Speaker 4: I just would say, though I'm not sure. I'm not

52:26 Speaker 4: someone who wants to defend Spotify, but I don't know.

52:31 Speaker 4: Can you if you're an artist and you have your

52:34 Speaker 4: music on a platform and that platform changes something about

52:41 Speaker 4: how the algorithm works, how their search functions work, how

52:45 Speaker 4: they're filtering works in this case, can you then sue

52:49 Speaker 4: them for that because they've damaged you in some way?

52:54 Speaker 4: I am pretty skeptical. I don't want I don't want

52:58 Speaker 4: to say this is frivolous, but I don't know. I

53:01 Speaker 4: kind of do want to say this is frivolous. I

53:04 Speaker 4: mean first of all, these platforms, and I don't have

53:07 Speaker 4: much experience directly with Spotify because I haven't been releasing

53:10 Speaker 4: my own music, But I mean, I have some experience

53:12 Speaker 4: with YouTube. They're always changing their rules and how things

53:16 Speaker 4: work and what shows up and what doesn't in searches

53:19 Speaker 4: and et cetera, and how the algorithms work. They're always

53:21 Speaker 4: they're always changing things. So as facebooks, you know, so

53:25 Speaker 4: as a lot of these platforms. But and in the

53:29 Speaker 4: case of YouTube, a lot of creators, a lot of

53:32 Speaker 4: podcasters have been damaged in many different ways, in many

53:37 Speaker 4: different instances over the years by YouTube specifically. And I've

53:42 Speaker 4: had my problems and complaints about YouTube. But I don't

53:47 Speaker 4: know I mean to actually sue one of these platforms

53:51 Speaker 4: for changing how they do things. I mean, it's not

53:54 Speaker 4: as though I would assume it's not as though Spotify

53:58 Speaker 4: somebody said in a room at Spotify and said, let's

54:02 Speaker 4: really screw over Mark Crater, We're going to change something

54:06 Speaker 4: about how our platform works so that we can decimate

54:11 Speaker 4: this guy's streaming numbers. Right. I don't think there was

54:14 Speaker 4: any malicious intent here on the part of Spotify, So

54:20 Speaker 4: I'm not sure about going and suing them. It seems

54:25 Speaker 4: strange to me. I don't know if it's frivolous, And again,

54:30 Speaker 4: I don't want to be defending Spotify. You know, obviously,

54:34 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I will always advocate

54:37 Speaker 4: on behalf of artists because of my background. But I

54:43 Speaker 4: just I don't know if this is a fight that

54:46 Speaker 4: I would have chosen with Spotify. I mean, they're a

54:51 Speaker 4: private company. They can I don't think they're publicly traded,

54:54 Speaker 4: are they. They can really kind of make whatever rules

54:57 Speaker 4: they want to about how their platform op rates, right.

55:01 Speaker 4: I mean, we had a discussion on a not on

55:05 Speaker 4: this show, but on a podcast that I do separate

55:07 Speaker 4: from all of this, where we were talking about, you know,

55:11 Speaker 4: does a platform the rights of a platform to control

55:16 Speaker 4: how it operates and how and whether someone can even

55:20 Speaker 4: be operating on their platform. You know, these are private

55:22 Speaker 4: companies that you know, we might not like it. It

55:25 Speaker 4: might feel like censorship when they do things to either

55:28 Speaker 4: remove us from their platforms or to potentially hide our

55:32 Speaker 4: content or lower our streaming numbers, et cetera. But ultimately,

55:35 Speaker 4: they are private companies and they have a right to

55:37 Speaker 4: do what they want to. So I just don't think

55:44 Speaker 4: this is I don't think this guy, Mark Cratter is

55:46 Speaker 4: going to win. I guess that's my long winded way

55:49 Speaker 4: of saying that. All right, we need to begin to

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57:55 Speaker 4: think we should give this one more spin again with

57:58 Speaker 4: apologies to my British friends, but and end of the

58:01 Speaker 4: guests that we had today. But it's all in fun.

58:03 Speaker 4: But I think we should close out because it is

58:05 Speaker 4: a patriotic song to end our show today, fourth of July.

58:08 Speaker 4: Our friends the Melted Chapsicks who will be here with

58:11 Speaker 4: us August first, and I can't wait for that. But

58:15 Speaker 4: they released this especially for the fourth of July. So

58:18 Speaker 4: I will leave you with this song. This is called

58:20 Speaker 4: from the Melted Chapsis. This is called We Beat the British.

58:23 Speaker 4: Bye everybody, Happy Independence Day.

58:34 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it, We we did it.

58:39 Speaker 1: We did Clee. And let's say, tennis shot was fine.

58:45 Speaker 1: I really don't know why. Now we got it like

58:49 Speaker 1: rock stuffs come the full the July. We did it.

58:53 Speaker 1: We did it, We British, We did it. We did Clee.

59:00 Speaker 1: They thought that they contax us. We told them to

59:03 Speaker 1: go to hell.

59:05 Speaker 10: Now they're ringing in their ears from the liberty bell.

59:09 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it. We beat the brit Ash.

59:13 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it. Cleeveat the britt As they.

59:18 Speaker 10: Gave us beetle Mania, the store so of hu the clash, we.

59:22 Speaker 1: Give you the melted chaff sticks. It's gonna be a bash.

59:26 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it. We beat the bread Ash.

59:31 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it. Clee beat the britt Ash.

59:35 Speaker 10: So the next time you attack us on our sacred lands,

59:39 Speaker 10: we'll beat you even harder.

59:41 Speaker 1: In the Battle of the bands. We did it, we

59:45 Speaker 1: did it. We beat the bread Ass. We did it.

59:49 Speaker 1: We did it. Clee beat the brint Ass.

59:52 Speaker 10: So Willie speak English, German, Fritcher Yiddish.

59:57 Speaker 1: I beget