Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-5-25 hour 1
Game Plan
Speaker 1: Listening to W. M.
Speaker 2: And Eates ninety four world premiere.
Speaker 1: Rocking.
Speaker 3: Am I the image I portrayed, the face you see
Speaker 3: every day, the voices inside my brain, the cover that
Speaker 3: has the page. I'm not my regrets, my wrath on
Speaker 3: my raige, the mask that shas the pain.
Speaker 4: I'm not only the worst that I say, the antics
Speaker 4: that I display. There's more than my DNA.
Speaker 3: I'm the smiles, the tears. I'm not the fears that
Speaker 3: honey as I lay awake. I'm not my mistakes. I
Speaker 3: am the steps I must take the frustrate. I am
Speaker 3: the faith to help me trust faith. I was once
Speaker 3: a bother clay that what frolic can play, but the
Speaker 3: years have slipped away.
Speaker 5: I am the light keeps the demons in bay.
Speaker 3: I am the greater high nose, low vibes scare you away.
Speaker 6: I am infinity. I am nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm the nmin lees you can't explain. I'm every thought
Speaker 5: you create. I Am not the splash that desinded grace.
Speaker 5: I am every breath you take, every moment.
Speaker 4: That escapes.
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Speaker 3: any possibility. I'm at for a expanding space. I have
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Speaker 4: How do I pray? Can you hear me speaking through
Speaker 4: the solace? What's in our way?
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Speaker 4: Now? Will it ever stay? What is the meaning?
Speaker 7: Will we ever know?
Speaker 6: Are we all one only alone? Will this ever be
Speaker 6: a home? Will we witness completion?
Speaker 4: Will forever be undone? Dare to see with south side?
Speaker 4: Can you predict what's to come? Is it all in vain?
Speaker 6: If flow away?
Speaker 3: The alphathe omega, everything in between?
Speaker 4: Do you believe I can't truly say I know one thing?
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Speaker 9: Did it ever cross your mind to think I want?
Speaker 9: Might be pacing, waiting on the phone the ring? Then
Speaker 9: you kiss me so you miss me? But I can
Speaker 9: tell you that something has changed.
Speaker 1: There's a sadness, careless.
Speaker 9: Pain that's driving you away.
Speaker 10: You breathing, I can leave in it's the last time
Speaker 10: you walked down my door, and I want crying in
Speaker 10: my bedroom.
Speaker 1: Was it all just something I fell for?
Speaker 10: Afraid that awake up and just like that, it's all
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Speaker 9: Pleased to be.
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Speaker 9: times in the late nights walking through.
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Speaker 1: asks about how I'm doing now, is she happy? Are
Speaker 1: you happy? You're feeling like the big man.
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Speaker 1: Because the last time you walked on my nerve.
Speaker 6: I was crying in my bedroom.
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Speaker 9: And was it easy to love me? Was it easy
Speaker 9: to touch me?
Speaker 1: Was it easy to leave.
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Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 13: down my breath so nothing. I an't having what I'm
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Speaker 7: Words I got along the tatscape I can see.
Speaker 4: No, I'm never bored.
Speaker 6: No, I hate the quiet life.
Speaker 7: It's time.
Speaker 15: My man is still the freak Raz's sight.
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Speaker 6: I'm a Knight battle flat don't.
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Speaker 7: Hey, welcome everybody, Here we go. It is Matt Conderton
Speaker 7: Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w
Speaker 7: m n H ninety five point three f M in
Speaker 7: Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here as well at
Speaker 7: the news table. President and I got it for good morning,
Speaker 7: Good morning, And there is no video feed for the
Speaker 7: show this morning, so if you're looking for the video,
Speaker 7: well you're probably not looking for the video if you're
Speaker 7: hearing the show already. But yeah, for some reason, I
Speaker 7: can't connect the video feed, so but that's okay. It
Speaker 7: is first and foremost a radio show. Today is Saturday,
Speaker 7: July five, twenty twenty five. In just a couple of moments,
Speaker 7: we're going to be joined by Shanna Trayhan or tray
Speaker 7: I'll have to find out what she calls out, what
Speaker 7: the correct pronunciation is of her name, But she is
Speaker 7: an LPC. She's got a book, a brand new book
Speaker 7: out called The Anxiety Fix, which I'm very interested in
Speaker 7: speaking with her about. She also runs the tray Han
Speaker 7: Therapy Center. So a very interesting person and yeah, an
Speaker 7: accomplished author, and looking forward to speaking with her. I
Speaker 7: know that anxiety is something that a lot of people
Speaker 7: deal with, so this should be a constructive conversation. Also,
Speaker 7: in the second and we have a congregation X who's
Speaker 7: going to be joining us alive in studio. They're gonna
Speaker 7: come in and play. Really looking forward to that. And
Speaker 7: in the third hour we have Cammy Necks and another
Speaker 7: great singer songwriter. We played her song at the top
Speaker 7: of the show, well not quite at the top. We
Speaker 7: opened today's show with the world radio premiere of the
Speaker 7: brand new track from our friend Truth or True Rhymes
Speaker 7: or Isaac Sierra he has multiple names, but he's got
Speaker 7: that new track called falsetto which, of course sample's Rocketman
Speaker 7: by Elton John and really really good. So enjoyed that
Speaker 7: a lot, and we'll probably play that again later in
Speaker 7: the show. And then we did play the Cammi next track,
Speaker 7: her newest single called Greedy, and we just heard a
Speaker 7: little bit of Parietal I who was here with us
Speaker 7: a last week on the show. That's a long song,
Speaker 7: so we don't have time to play the whole thing,
Speaker 7: but that's actually my favorite of theirs. That is called
Speaker 7: Ballad of Straddle Flat and Rusty James, a really really
Speaker 7: cool song. So so Shane is gonna she's gonna be
Speaker 7: calling in on the studio line. Is that correct? That
Speaker 7: is what I am anticipating. Okay, good, good, Yeah, we
Speaker 7: told her. I think we told her nine fifteen. So yeah,
Speaker 7: so a little bit. It's been a morning of confusion
Speaker 7: and a little tech errors here. I'm gonna keep trying
Speaker 7: to periodically keep trying to connect the video feed. I
Speaker 7: don't know why it's I don't know why it's not working,
Speaker 7: but you know, Gremlin's what are you going to do?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: But so welcome everyone. It's great to have you with
Speaker 7: us on the Saturday morning. Hope hopefully everyone had a
Speaker 7: good Fourth of July, a happy Independence Day. We saw
Speaker 7: quite a bit of fireworks outside of our window yesterday.
Speaker 7: Now Manchester actually everywhere, Yeah, Manchester does their fireworks, the
Speaker 7: city fireworks on the third, the night before, as a
Speaker 7: lot of cities do. But in our neighborhood last night,
Speaker 7: our neighbors were setting off quite a bit from every
Speaker 7: angle of the house, literally all around us.
Speaker 1: We get to go out and look to the laugh.
Speaker 7: Look to the right, like we had multiple shows going
Speaker 7: at the same time. That's true.
Speaker 1: I kind of likely. We don't have to leave home.
Speaker 7: Yeah, at different angles one go out on the poor
Speaker 7: and watch them.
Speaker 3: And I gotta say some of the ones I saw
Speaker 3: going off in the street were.
Speaker 7: Like, that's really something you could buy. Yeah, they've really
Speaker 7: gotten large. Yeah, where we live, we saw I assume
Speaker 7: it was a family or a group of kids or someone.
Speaker 7: I think there were a couple of adults, so it's
Speaker 7: hard to tell because it was dark, but uh, up
Speaker 7: up a block, it looked like they kept running out
Speaker 7: into the road when it when there was no car coming,
Speaker 7: someone would run into the road and put put something
Speaker 7: in the road light it and then run back over
Speaker 7: to the sidewalk. And sometimes cars would be coming down
Speaker 7: the street and they'd have to stop and wait for
Speaker 7: you know, whatever that was that was doing whatever it
Speaker 7: was doing. But then there was a couple of times
Speaker 7: that they ran back out there because nothing went off.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, this is how people lose their hands.
Speaker 12: Yes, and the e nt and me was going, I'm
Speaker 12: really glad, but we're not far from a hospital because
Speaker 12: this could get interesting.
Speaker 7: Right right, And I think our I think our guest
Speaker 7: is on the line.
Speaker 1: Oh, good, good.
Speaker 7: Yarning, welcome to the show. Is this Shanna?
Speaker 12: It is?
Speaker 16: Good morning? How are you?
Speaker 7: Good morning? Okay, tell me if I'm saying your name correctly,
Speaker 7: we're alive on the air. Is it Shana Trahan trey Han?
Speaker 7: How do you say your name?
Speaker 16: Sure? Is Shanna trey Han?
Speaker 7: Shanna trey Han? Okay, cool, got it? Thank you, Thank
Speaker 7: you for joining us this morning. Very interested in talking
Speaker 7: to you. Can you before we talk about your book,
Speaker 7: can you tell us about your background and at about
Speaker 7: the therapy center and everything anything and everything we should
Speaker 7: know about you before we before we really get into it.
Speaker 16: Okay, Well, I appreciate you very much, for sure. So
Speaker 16: I was born and raised in Louisiana, right in your
Speaker 16: New Orleans and then also, gosh, so my life pretty
Speaker 16: much is. I was an educator for twenty years. I
Speaker 16: was in military leadership, hearing of two beautiful kids, one
Speaker 16: beautiful granddaughter, and I love to travel. Insofar as mental
Speaker 16: health is concerned, I kind of thought about it, I
Speaker 16: guess when I was younger, because people used to always
Speaker 16: come to me and ask me what do I think?
Speaker 16: And so, yeah, so that's a little bit of background.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so and tell us about the Tray and Therapy Center.
Speaker 7: What is that exactly? What do you do there?
Speaker 16: Thank you so much. So the Trade Hand Therapy Center
Speaker 16: is where we shape minds and change lives. And that's
Speaker 16: the slogan I came up with because I just thought
Speaker 16: about the processes that I thought taking place in the
Speaker 16: transformations of people's lives who followed through consistently and were
Speaker 16: intentional about the therapeutic process. So that's what we do.
Speaker 16: And been in private practice for almost eight years and
Speaker 16: right now we're licensed in like nine eight states and
Speaker 16: so we started out of Texas though, and so yeah,
Speaker 16: so that's we really we love to support people who
Speaker 16: are challenged having mental health challenges. If it's with marriage,
Speaker 16: if it's emotional, just you know, anything that they're dealing with.
Speaker 16: I try to streamline it so I would say, if
Speaker 16: I wanted to tell you mainly what we do, sure
Speaker 16: it's going to be relationship, marriage, certainly, anxiety, depression, and
Speaker 16: had a lot of clients who present it with.
Speaker 1: Like bipolar disorder okay, but.
Speaker 16: Certainly the age range pretty much is like twelve and up.
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay. In your experience, do you feel like the
Speaker 7: has it gotten better over time in terms of the stigma.
Speaker 7: You know a lot of people have a problem admitting
Speaker 7: or acknowledging and directly dealing with mental health issues like depression,
Speaker 7: for example. I know this from personal experience. I'm someone
Speaker 7: who struggles with depression, as a lot of our listeners know.
Speaker 7: I've I've been pretty open about it the last few years,
Speaker 7: but I wasn't always open about it, and there was
Speaker 7: a time where I would try to high and I
Speaker 7: know that. I know that there can be a lot
Speaker 7: of stigma and judgment that people have to deal with
Speaker 7: if they if they start to open up about these things,
Speaker 7: whether it be publicly or even to family and friends.
Speaker 7: But I do feel like that's gotten a lot better,
Speaker 7: especially over the past decade. I feel like people have
Speaker 7: become more open and comfortable talking about these things. And
Speaker 7: I'm curious what your experience in terms of that has been.
Speaker 7: Do you think it's do you think it's gotten better,
Speaker 7: or maybe it's gotten worse, or I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 7: what do you think in terms of people being open
Speaker 7: about this stuff.
Speaker 16: That's an excellent question because there's multiple parts of that.
Speaker 16: So the first part I will share is that I
Speaker 16: do believe that more doors and more windows have been opened,
Speaker 16: and honestly, as people in Hollywood have come out to say, hey,
Speaker 16: you know what, I'm experiencing anxiety, I'm experiencing depression. I
Speaker 16: do have bipolar, you know, and I do movies as well, right,
Speaker 16: So I believe that that has created some shifts. And
Speaker 16: then also though literally I was talking to someone the
Speaker 16: other day, and you know, someone who's someone that I
Speaker 16: know that's not in therapy, and I asked him, I said, oh,
Speaker 16: I said, well, you know, have you ever thought about
Speaker 16: talking to someone? And they said, well, I just think
Speaker 16: of talking to someone as just you know, saying just
Speaker 16: what I'm feeling, and I said, well, you know, therapy
Speaker 16: is so much more than that, right, and you know,
Speaker 16: don't please don't come just pour everything on my head
Speaker 16: and walk away. For me, therapy is certainly about change.
Speaker 16: And I'm such a solution focused type person. But because
Speaker 16: of my background, I've taught from babies. I used to
Speaker 16: have a daycare, So from babies all the way to
Speaker 16: college level I've taught. And I would say that I've
Speaker 16: worked with people who have identified special needs and then
Speaker 16: those who don't have identified special needs, right, And so
Speaker 16: in working with those who identified special needs, I think
Speaker 16: that that really has helped me to be real specific
Speaker 16: in planning and treatment planning for my clients, because they
Speaker 16: don't just to give them a broad spectrum antibiotic, for example,
Speaker 16: is just not enough. Like they need something that's really
Speaker 16: specific to their background and their experiences. So I practice
Speaker 16: what's called integrative therapy, and that is it uses multiple
Speaker 16: multiple theories in one setting, as opposed to trying to
Speaker 16: go with one theory. But the person really needs a
Speaker 16: little bit of this one and a little bit of
Speaker 16: that one. And so I believe that that is the
Speaker 16: most for me. The best approach, and it seems to
Speaker 16: have worked for the people that I see. But yeah,
Speaker 16: just to answer your question, yes, I think that it's
Speaker 16: more people are open. However, there's still so many people.
Speaker 16: If we look at the number of people committing suicide,
Speaker 16: there's still so many more people that need to be reached.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, So tell us about the book the Anxiety Fix.
Speaker 16: Thank you so much, Anxiety Fixed. While yeah, just as
Speaker 16: I was observing, I guess what's been happening. And I
Speaker 16: don't watch the news much, but I guess back last year,
Speaker 16: I was watching it a little more and I was
Speaker 16: just listening to even clients and friends and family members,
Speaker 16: and it just dawned on me that people were really
Speaker 16: suffering from anxiety. I mean almost to what could be
Speaker 16: like nearly OCD levels. Uh. And it's unfortunate because you know,
Speaker 16: there's ways and systems and processes, and you know, there's
Speaker 16: so many solutions. Sure, and so I came up with
Speaker 16: Anxiety Fix, and I believe that all of the components
Speaker 16: of it are so important. And so the book talks
Speaker 16: about like the biology of anxiety, which I think that
Speaker 16: it's important to understand, like where is this coming from? Right,
Speaker 16: what's the source of all this? And then the next thing.
Speaker 16: Certainly we look at food that you eat and then
Speaker 16: the best foods for you know, that you should eat
Speaker 16: if you're having anxiety, and like everything, a lot of times.
Speaker 15: We overlook it.
Speaker 16: I mean, food and water are like the foundational you know,
Speaker 16: it's foundational like ourselves, right, So what foods are contributing
Speaker 16: to how we're feeling and how we're feeling is presenting
Speaker 16: into the world. Also we look at things such as
Speaker 16: community building community. When I talk to a lot of people,
Speaker 16: you know, I find that they don't have, you know,
Speaker 16: their core group souse families kind of spread away, spread
Speaker 16: out out and move the different states, and then it's
Speaker 16: like now you have to come up with your own group.
Speaker 16: And so I believe that certainly finding your people is
Speaker 16: a thing that you know, people have said use the
Speaker 16: term your people, but it's meaning that group that fits you, right,
Speaker 16: So in finding your people that that part is really
Speaker 16: important to reducing anxiety because you feel like, hey, I'm
Speaker 16: not alone. And also looking at holistic supports because it's
Speaker 16: not everyone doesn't necessarily need a medicine from the pharmacy,
Speaker 16: but sometimes people can definitely benefit so let me say that,
Speaker 16: but also looking at holistic supports for that purpose. And
Speaker 16: I think that understanding what those things are is important.
Speaker 16: And if those things work for you, then you may
Speaker 16: not need medication. However, if your person suffering with severe
Speaker 16: anxiety or severe depression, or you know, severe case of
Speaker 16: your mental health concern, you may, you know, need the medication.
Speaker 16: So I mean, just have to be honest with yourself, right,
Speaker 16: So if the holistic supports are not working for you,
Speaker 16: then we may have to move towards, you know, medication.
Speaker 7: It sounds like you're suggesting to that tell me, if
Speaker 7: I'm understanding this correctly, that it's probably better to try
Speaker 7: to with something like anxiety, it's better to try to
Speaker 7: address it, you know, holistically, or you know, you mentioned nutrition,
Speaker 7: the importance of nutrition, and you know most people don't
Speaker 7: exercise enough obviously that you know. I'm a hypnotherapist and
Speaker 7: I talked to my clients a lot about that mind
Speaker 7: body connection, and I tell them, look, the better you
Speaker 7: feel mentally, the better you'll feel physically and vice versa.
Speaker 7: But it sounds like you really suggest kind of trying
Speaker 7: these other things before, because I think there's a misconception
Speaker 7: that some people have that you know, you can cure
Speaker 7: anything with a pill, but the reality is there's other
Speaker 7: things that you do want to try first because you
Speaker 7: might not need medication, and if you can address these
Speaker 7: things with diet and exercise, and you know, you talked
Speaker 7: about community, you know, because a lot of people struggle
Speaker 7: with loneliness and that obviously that does inflate anxiety and
Speaker 7: depression and all these things. So I mean, it sounds
Speaker 7: like you're saying there are ways to address these things,
Speaker 7: and medication might be I don't know if the last
Speaker 7: resort is the right way of putting it. But am
Speaker 7: I on the right track with that?
Speaker 16: You are so so on the right track. As we
Speaker 16: watch these lovely commercials that pass on the different stations
Speaker 16: and then at the end somebody says about forty different
Speaker 16: side effects very fast.
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, I am.
Speaker 16: Everybody's in the business of medicine and or the line
Speaker 16: of work that we're in for different reasons, right, We
Speaker 16: all have our different reasons, And I pretty much I
Speaker 16: would say that my motive, if you will, has always
Speaker 16: been to help and support and so that's my military background,
Speaker 16: that's my teaching background, that's my even store manager background.
Speaker 16: That's my daycare background. Everything I've always done has been
Speaker 16: to support and train, teach, help, you know, and so
Speaker 16: that for me is this thing as well, because you know,
Speaker 16: I could I could say, hey, go go get the mets,
Speaker 16: Go get the mets, go get the mess because it
Speaker 16: doesn't hurt me physically. But it's just a moral part,
Speaker 16: like just knowing that hey, maybe if they had done
Speaker 16: you know a little more exercise or maybe kind of
Speaker 16: gotten you know, went out and you know, developed a
Speaker 16: new hobby and you know, met some new people that
Speaker 16: that could have been the beginning to something new and
Speaker 16: better for them. You know. Yeah, you don't go just
Speaker 16: straight to the pill or straight to the medicine that
Speaker 16: has you know a lot of side effects. Again, some
Speaker 16: people certainly are benefited by that, right, So we don't
Speaker 16: want to say that medicine is not good, because medicine
Speaker 16: certainly has helped many people for a lot of things.
Speaker 16: But certainly we want to take it in terms of medication,
Speaker 16: how you kind of tie trade up or tie trade down.
Speaker 16: So we want to kind of start at the basic level,
Speaker 16: Hey how much water are you drinking? Right, and then
Speaker 16: go up to medication. If that is required.
Speaker 7: Sure, sure, I do. Yeah, most people don't drink enough water,
Speaker 7: and it is so important, especially you know, in the
Speaker 7: hot summer. But it's but it's always important. And yeah,
Speaker 7: it's interesting too because I know that there's studies that
Speaker 7: show that exercise, for example, for many people, and again,
Speaker 7: you know, obviously we don't want to say for everybody,
Speaker 7: but for many people, you know, just exercise, even just
Speaker 7: walking every day, can be more effective for depression, dealing
Speaker 7: with depression than say, going on a on a medication.
Speaker 7: And and you're right too. You mentioned those those commercials
Speaker 7: that you see for for for medications, and I I
Speaker 7: don't remember which one it was, but there's a there's
Speaker 7: an antidepressant. Years ago. I remember seeing this commercial late
Speaker 7: at night on a on a cable news channel. I
Speaker 7: I think, I I think I know which one it was,
Speaker 7: but I'm not sure, so I don't want to say it,
Speaker 7: but uh, but one of the side effects for this
Speaker 7: antidepressant was may cause suicidal ideations. And as someone who
Speaker 7: struggles with depression, I just I remember seeing this commercial
Speaker 7: and it mentions the suicidal ideations and I thought, well,
Speaker 7: that's that's a bit counterintuitive. You know, if I'm going
Speaker 7: to go on that mad. It's because I'm trying not
Speaker 7: to kill myself that this antidepressant might make me want
Speaker 7: to kill myself, you know, so to be very blunted.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I'm always I'm always skeptical. I've I've
Speaker 7: never gone on any kind of medication for my depre
Speaker 7: but but I and maybe I should, but some would
Speaker 7: suggest I should try it. I try to deal with
Speaker 7: it on my own. But but I do know that, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, and again it's something that a lot of
Speaker 7: people struggle with. Depression, is is is very uh, very common,
Speaker 7: and anxiety of course, and they're they're I agree, they
Speaker 7: tend to be connected. Do you feel that, uh, do
Speaker 7: you feel that people are being well, let me ask
Speaker 7: it this way. Do you think these problems have become
Speaker 7: more widespread or do you think people are just becoming
Speaker 7: more aware and open about discussing them over time? You know,
Speaker 7: we talked earlier about the stigma, and I think you
Speaker 7: and I agree that that's been getting better. But do
Speaker 7: you think these problems have actually gotten worse or do
Speaker 7: you think people are just more open about them? Or
Speaker 7: maybe it's hard to say, hmm.
Speaker 16: You know, I think that people are becoming a little
Speaker 16: more aware. Yeah, But honestly, the crazy thing is that
Speaker 16: I would say, sometimes, unfortunately, you know, people are unaware
Speaker 16: of some people are unaware of, you know, our own presentation.
Speaker 16: And I was talking to a friend the other day
Speaker 16: and I mentioned something to them about I guess, you know,
Speaker 16: a behavior. You know, I observe, not trying to be
Speaker 16: their therapist, but it's just that we were talking about
Speaker 16: something between us, and I said, did you realize X,
Speaker 16: you know had happened? And they were like, oh, maybe
Speaker 16: because of why you know? And I said, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 16: Why wasn't present at the time, you know. And then
Speaker 16: because they had like they were showing like little signs
Speaker 16: of anger or frustration, and like there was nothing in
Speaker 16: the moment really that anybody else probably would have said, Hey,
Speaker 16: you should be frustrated, you should be angry right now, right,
Speaker 16: And so they hadn't even realized that presentation of themselves. Okay,
Speaker 16: And so sometimes we don't even realize our own presentations.
Speaker 16: So how can we even you know, talk to the
Speaker 16: therapist and say, hey, I've been experiencing X, you know,
Speaker 16: And with everybody ghosting everybody in twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 16: mean people aren't being on you know, aren't really talking
Speaker 16: to their friends, and they just, oh, that person presented angry.
Speaker 16: I'm just going to leave them alone forever, you know,
Speaker 16: you just sure you know people, you know, how do
Speaker 16: we have friendships? How how can we be honest with
Speaker 16: each other and not you know, concern ourselves with everybody
Speaker 16: ghosting us or you know whatever. So yeah, sometimes we
Speaker 16: don't even realize our own presentation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And it's easy to not only not only
Speaker 7: do we not always recognize our own presentation, but it's
Speaker 7: easy to misread other people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: Text messaging I think has played a big role in
Speaker 7: that in our society, in that, you know, I saw
Speaker 7: somebody make a joke the other day. It's almost like
Speaker 7: you have to end every text with a smiley emoji,
Speaker 7: or the person you're sending the text to is automatically
Speaker 7: going to assume that you're angry with them.
Speaker 16: Right.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of misunderstandings that happened because of that,
Speaker 7: you know, And I'm guilty of it myself. You know,
Speaker 7: sometimes I misread people or I misunderstand or especially if
Speaker 7: I meet somebody new and they come across to me
Speaker 7: as a little bit kurt or perhaps kind of stern,
Speaker 7: and how they present and then I and then I
Speaker 7: get into my own head about, oh, they don't like me,
Speaker 7: there's something about me that bothers them. And then I
Speaker 7: get to know them a little bit and it's like, oh, no,
Speaker 7: that's just how they talk. They're a nice person and
Speaker 7: they do seem to like me. They just you know,
Speaker 7: I misunderstood. I misread them, And that happens to me
Speaker 7: a lot. I've gotten better about it over the years,
Speaker 7: but it still happens where it's like, you know, I
Speaker 7: get a wrong idea, a wrong impression about somebody else's presentation.
Speaker 7: So it's something I think we all need to be
Speaker 7: aware of and mindful of. And but but it's tricky.
Speaker 7: But it's tricky. I do wonder if if some of
Speaker 7: these problems have worsened over time though too. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 7: like you said, people are more open about about talking
Speaker 7: about these things, but and there's more awareness. But also
Speaker 7: I think that because you mentioned how people eat the
Speaker 7: foods that we eat, you know, we we eat all
Speaker 7: this processed food, and you know, and and as a country,
Speaker 7: you know, we tend to you know, we have higher
Speaker 7: and higher numbers of diabetes and and and obesity and
Speaker 7: all of this, And I mean that all contributes. And
Speaker 7: I think as though as those problems continue to worsen,
Speaker 7: I think that obviously affects everybody in terms of how
Speaker 7: they feel and and their emotional well being and all
Speaker 7: of that. So I suspect that people are becoming more
Speaker 7: aware and more open about these things, but I think
Speaker 7: the problems are probably also getting worse and and that,
Speaker 7: and that's why that makes it that much more important
Speaker 7: for people to read things, for example, that are helpful
Speaker 7: to them, like your book The Anxiety Fix, and and
Speaker 7: someone who someone who reads your book, what what will
Speaker 7: they what will they get from it? Like do you
Speaker 7: out in the book kind of a plan or a
Speaker 7: strategy for people who use to deal with their anxiety,
Speaker 7: or or do you make it just make a lot
Speaker 7: of suggestions about different methods to try to cope, or
Speaker 7: tell us a little bit more about the book. What
Speaker 7: do you present to the reader in terms of what
Speaker 7: can help them?
Speaker 16: For sure? So I would say number one is that
Speaker 16: I think that two things about the book. One is
Speaker 16: that it should be on it I mean, you can
Speaker 16: read it on your own However, I really suggest that
Speaker 16: you anyone that considers purchasing anxiety fix, that they actually
Speaker 16: use it alongside their therapists, because really there's things there.
Speaker 16: For example, I had someone that was reading the book
Speaker 16: and then they were like, oh, you know, I saw
Speaker 16: the coping skills, and so I just figured I could
Speaker 16: just do them all. No, you cannot do You don't
Speaker 16: do them all. You don't do them all at one time.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 16: The way that I suggest is certainly choosing one or
Speaker 16: two coping skills, practicing those intentionally over a couple of weeks,
Speaker 16: seeing you know the you know which one is benefiting
Speaker 16: you most. And if if one of them is benefiting one,
Speaker 16: you don't see the benefit, then you know, then drop
Speaker 16: that second one at another one. Now you're doing that
Speaker 16: one that you know works, and you're trying another one,
Speaker 16: and you know on top of that. So definitely, the
Speaker 16: book presents with a lot of coping skills support, and
Speaker 16: I think that that is important that you don't you
Speaker 16: can't you don't employ forty coping skills all at one time.
Speaker 16: I think that that will lead to overwhelm. And so
Speaker 16: the goal is not so overwhelm, but you definitely want to.
Speaker 16: I would say, use this with your therapist, so that way,
Speaker 16: you know, the therapist has the book Anxiety Fix. You
Speaker 16: have the book Anxiety Fix, and then you get to
Speaker 16: read the first chapter. You're answering questions and you know,
Speaker 16: figuring out who you are and what's happening with you
Speaker 16: and why it's happening. And then you get to bring
Speaker 16: that back to your therapist then kind of talk about,
Speaker 16: you know, the questions that you answered, why you answered
Speaker 16: them that way, you know, and your behaviors and your
Speaker 16: choices that might be leading to your anxiety. Right. So
Speaker 16: this is certainly a book that can be read on
Speaker 16: an individual basis, but I certainly suggest that you do
Speaker 16: go through it, you know, on an individual basis. But
Speaker 16: then when you go to your therapist, Hey, I read
Speaker 16: the first chapter of Anxiety Fix this week. Can we
Speaker 16: talk about that? Yeah, because I'm certain that your therapist
Speaker 16: will be very glad to kind of go through the
Speaker 16: process with you step by step because it's going to
Speaker 16: lighten their load as well. Sure, and then you've already
Speaker 16: done some of the work, right, so they don't even
Speaker 16: have to assign some homework. Hey, you've got your homework
Speaker 16: right there. An anxiety Fix and then the therapist is
Speaker 16: just supporting and facilitating. It's like, hey, this is really easy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Is this
Speaker 7: your first book, by the way, or have you written
Speaker 7: other books?
Speaker 16: I've written other books. However, out of all the books,
Speaker 16: I will say that this is the best of all
Speaker 16: the books. Okay, So if anyone buys any books that
Speaker 16: Shanna Treyhan has written, Anxiety Fix is the one. I mean,
Speaker 16: this is like the one for you know, you can
Speaker 16: buy it for your sister or your brother because you
Speaker 16: know that they're struggling, and just leave it with them
Speaker 16: and walk away. Hey try this. You know, sometimes people
Speaker 16: don't want to have the conversation. Here you go and
Speaker 16: then just leave them with it. Right certainly yourself, your kids.
Speaker 16: It could be a family a family book to read.
Speaker 16: Let's sit in a circle. Let's talk about this stuff. Man.
Speaker 16: This has been affecting everybody. Little Johnny, it's affecting you
Speaker 16: at school. You went to a new school. We just moved.
Speaker 16: We're having some anxiety because now you have to start
Speaker 16: over from scratch making new friends. A husband or wife
Speaker 16: just got a new gig because they just moved, you know,
Speaker 16: everybody's feeling the anxiety. Let's sit down in the family
Speaker 16: as a family. Let's read it, let's talk about it,
Speaker 16: Let's experience everything together. Hey, we're going to try some
Speaker 16: of these coping skills together. Hey, we're gonna try some
Speaker 16: new eating plans together. Right, So don't just let you
Speaker 16: know your family members sit in a room with the
Speaker 16: blinds closed and the doors closed and not talking. Lets
Speaker 16: everybody come together, sit together around anxiety fixed. We can
Speaker 16: have some popcorn, take turns reading, and then discuss how
Speaker 16: we're feeling and what our experience has been.
Speaker 7: Yeah. That sounds great, and I'm sure that probably everyone
Speaker 7: can get something out of it, even even people who think,
Speaker 7: you know, no, I'm good, I'm good, I've I've got
Speaker 7: I've got this. You know, everything's everything's good. There's probably
Speaker 7: going to be something in there that they can that
Speaker 7: they can glean from it that will help themselves or
Speaker 7: or perhaps to help someone they know, because you know,
Speaker 7: these problems are so widespread, and anxiety is such a
Speaker 7: such a thing, such a common thing. Obviously a little
Speaker 7: bit of anxiety tell me, tell me if I'm I
Speaker 7: try to tell people this, but I'm never sure I'm
Speaker 7: explaining it right. Tell me if you think, uh, Shanna,
Speaker 7: if you think I've got this right. A little bit
Speaker 7: of anxiety is a good thing, right, because you have
Speaker 7: to have some level of anxiety and stress in order
Speaker 7: to to push you to do things right, to to
Speaker 7: to to get you to make sure that you take
Speaker 7: care of your responsibilities. You know, if you have bills
Speaker 7: to pay, for example, you know you want to have
Speaker 7: a little bit of anxiety like, Okay, I've got to
Speaker 7: pay that bill. I got to make sure I do
Speaker 7: this on time. I've got to Uh. If you're a parent,
Speaker 7: you know, I gotta. I gotta make sure I do
Speaker 7: this for my kid. I gotta you know, So a
Speaker 7: little bit of that's a good thing, right. But but
Speaker 7: but you don't want it to become too much where
Speaker 7: you're you're now you're worrying about things that you can't control,
Speaker 7: and now you're you're you have anxiety about things that
Speaker 7: to a level where it's actually harming you and not
Speaker 7: not helping you. Because a little bit is helpful. You know,
Speaker 7: we human beings were designed, our brains are designed to
Speaker 7: want to handle some level of challenge, right, Otherwise we'd
Speaker 7: be bored to death. If everything was easy. But but
Speaker 7: we don't. But when that anxiety begins to take take
Speaker 7: us over and and ruin our lives effectively, right, you know,
Speaker 7: that's that's when we need to really, that's when we
Speaker 7: need to look at some ways to manage it.
Speaker 16: I agree with you one thousand percent. You know, definitely
Speaker 16: there's there's what I call good anxiety and bad anxiety, right, yeah,
Speaker 16: and so yeah, the bad anxiety is anxiety that has
Speaker 16: you up at night and you can't fall asleep, or
Speaker 16: you can't or if you fall asleep, then you keep
Speaker 16: waking up. You know, that's bad anxiety. You know. Good
Speaker 16: anxiety is, oh, I better be get up and go
Speaker 16: take my job this morning, you know, let me get
Speaker 16: up and get my stuff on. You know, that's that's
Speaker 16: good anxiety.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 16: So, certainly the things you mentioned good anxiety. So there is,
Speaker 16: in my opinion, is good and bad anxiety.
Speaker 17: Right.
Speaker 16: So, yeah, we all do live with some level anxiety,
Speaker 16: and that's certainly how we you know, Oh, let me
Speaker 16: go out and water the plants today. You know, I've
Speaker 16: got to do this. Let me make sure this happens.
Speaker 16: Let me make my list of five things I got
Speaker 16: to do today. Right, So those things are good anxiety
Speaker 16: for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Well, Shanna, the time goes quickly. We do need
Speaker 7: to we need to start to wrap up. But I'm
Speaker 7: so glad to get to talk to you this morning
Speaker 7: and in the book The Anxiety Fix. I think it's
Speaker 7: great everything that you're doing. Please tell our listeners where's
Speaker 7: the best place to go online, not only to get
Speaker 7: the book, but to learn more about you? Uh, maybe
Speaker 7: we have someone who wants to talk to you, maybe
Speaker 7: they want to schedule something with you. Uh, what is
Speaker 7: the what are the best ways for people to reach you?
Speaker 16: Sure? The name of the book is Anxiety Fix, and
Speaker 16: you can find it on Amazon and just look up
Speaker 16: Shanna tray Hann s h a n A t r
Speaker 16: a h a N. And then of course our website
Speaker 16: where you can find more information definitely about holistic supports
Speaker 16: and things like that and the things that we offer
Speaker 16: is going to be www if they still allow us
Speaker 16: to use it. Right, tray Hand t r a h
Speaker 16: a N Therapy t H t r a p Y
Speaker 16: Houston dot com. So that's tray Hand Therapy Houston dot com.
Speaker 16: And again we are in eight states on the East
Speaker 16: coast and in Idaho, South Carolina, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Delaware,
Speaker 16: Rhode Island in New Hampshire. So yeah, just reach out
Speaker 16: to us.
Speaker 7: We're there, outstanding, outstanding, all right, Shanna trey Han, thank
Speaker 7: you so much. Well, we'll have to do this again
Speaker 7: in the future. It's been wonderful to speak with you
Speaker 7: this morning, and I really appreciate you joining us. And
Speaker 7: it's been great to learn about you and learn about
Speaker 7: the book. And you're doing great things out there in
Speaker 7: the world, so and we need that. We need that.
Speaker 7: So thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 16: I appreciate you, Thank you for your time, many blessings,
Speaker 16: and we will talk soon.
Speaker 7: All right, sounds good, Thanks Shanna, have a great day.
Speaker 16: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Bub all right, Shanna Treyhan. Check out her book The
Speaker 7: Anxiety Fix available where well, she mentioned Amazon. Of course
Speaker 7: that's probably I assume Amazon is a number one place
Speaker 7: where people get their books. But yeah, wonderful to speak
Speaker 7: with her. And you know, we focus a lot obviously
Speaker 7: on the show. We do more interviews with musicians than
Speaker 7: anybody else. But it's wonderful to get into some of
Speaker 7: these other areas, especially where I mean partly too you know,
Speaker 7: I'm a certified hypnotherapist, so I have a natural interest
Speaker 7: in these things anyway, and I help people with things
Speaker 7: like anxiety and stress and whatnot. But it's I think
Speaker 7: it's great to bring and bring on other people to
Speaker 7: talk about these things too. And definitely check out you know,
Speaker 7: she's had an amazing career. We could probably have if
Speaker 7: we'd had more time, we could have delved more into
Speaker 7: some of her experiences. But but yeah, check out her book,
Speaker 7: Shanna Treyhan, The Anxiety Fix. If you are listening live
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