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Speaker 9: Good morning everybody, Welcome, Here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. It is Saturday August twenty four, twenty twenty four. We've got a great show for you today and I am not alone in studio.
Speaker 13: Jenny john.
Speaker 12: Best Treasure Morning Sunshine.
Speaker 9: Jenny is here of course at the news table. Yes, yes, and in just a couple of minutes we're going to be joined via Skype by Bowden Greenley. He's the author of a book called Perseverance, which I read I had the pleasure of reading recently. Looking forward to speaking with him about it, although it's a pretty heavy subject, but we'll get into that. Of course, we've got Silicon Kong in the second hour and third hour under the Horizon, which is I'm particularly looking forward to speaking with them because not only do I love their sound, but the manager of the band is somebody who I used to do a lot of business with back in the day, and he was in a band and I was in a band and we played a lot of shows together and so forth.
Speaker 9: So I'm really looking forward to that. But so it'll be a fun show today.
Speaker 12: Yes, it's going to be yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 9: Do we have time? Yeah, we should mention what's the event there that you wanted to.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So the Gail Singer blood Drive just happened and I went there, and I want to encourage you please consider donating blood if you did not in this past drive. There are lots of opportunities to and right now this is actually a critical blood supply shortage, which means lives are on the line. So if you have the ability to do it, it doesn't take long, about an hour or so out of your time or even less depending on you know where you go for the go for it. But it's quick, it's easy, and you have the ability to save lives.
Speaker 14: Also about saving lives. While I was there, the American Red Cross has a really great program to try and prevent people from dying in house fires and you can actually get a free smoke alarm installed in your house and they'll check your house and let you know if there are any fire hazards you need to take care of. So if you know, the bad thing happens, you guys get out alive and you get out safely. So if you're interested in getting a free smoke alarm and having your house check to see if you have any fire hazards that you can take care of, just check out the American Red Cross.
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Speaker 14: You can go to their website at Redcross dot org and just look up in home smoke alarm and you can find out where you can get it there, or you can give them a call at one eight hundred four six four sixty six nine to two. That's eight hundred four six four six nine too. They will bring you a brand new smoke alarm, install it for you and make sure that you and your family will be able to get out of your house safely. So absolutely check that out. Also, if you're not able to donate blood, you can be a volunteer and that's always the need, So if you're interested in being a volunteer, check out the Red Cross red Cross dot org backslash volunteer and consider doing that.
Speaker 12: They do great things for us.
Speaker 14: And I can tell you as a former EMT and working in an emergency room, blood supplies our life one hundred percent something bad happens, and that emergency blood is literally the difference between life and death for.
Speaker 12: A lot of people.
Speaker 14: And there's actually a lot of illnesses that are treated by blood donations. So you can help people that are chronically ill and perhaps they need immunoglobbin. If you've got some to give, please consider donating.
Speaker 12: As I said, it's a fun that's a fun word. Immun immunoglobin.
Speaker 9: Yes, I'm going to work with ivyies a lot now immunoglobin.
Speaker 14: So that's actually what they call the what my neurologist calls the drug of last resort for me is iv IG and it actually takes about ten thousand blood donations to make just one dose of IVY immunal globin.
Speaker 9: You need a lot of immunoglobins.
Speaker 14: Yes, well, there are people that cannot live without it. They are their bodies are so bad that they need to have it regularly infused and actually have nurses come to their homes and do it right at home. So it is a really big deal. Please consider doing it. And like I said, the American Red Cross is giving out free smoke alarms. They'll come, they'll install it for you and help you stay safe and prevent a fire from taking you or your loved one's lives.
Speaker 9: Well, very good, very good. Also, we should mention so a couple quickly. And we've got a couple of shows to go to. So yeah, tomorrow night we're going to go Great White. We're going to see them at Tupelo because opening for them is under the horraz we'll talk more about that in the third hour when the band is with us.
Speaker 12: I'm going.
Speaker 9: And then also, and this has been a few months in the making now, but Tuesday Night, Yes, green Jello slash green Jelly. I'm never sure which name to call them. I think they prefer green Jello. Green Jelly was just so a legal alternative, shall we say. But they were on the show with us a couple of months ago after they played here in Manchester, and Tuesday Night they're going to be at Terminus in Nashua. We had, of course our friends from Terminus and the Midnight Creators Collective Midnight Creativetive Collective.
Speaker 9: Yes, I always get that wrong. Eleanor and Andre and Spelfe here with us a couple of weeks ago. But this Tuesday night's the big night Green Jello at Terminus. It is a free show at seven pm. It is twenty one plus b yob but come check it out. Terminus is amazing. You can see Jenny's art. Jenny is the featured artist there on the wall at the Midnight Creatives Collective and my darkest.
Speaker 14: Piece, yes, which was really crazy to see them hanging all together.
Speaker 12: Yeah, really really bizarre.
Speaker 14: So yeah, if you want to check out some of my darkest work, you can actually see that while we're seeing Green Jello and I am so excited to the cops are.
Speaker 9: And bring your bring your pool noodles if you have, yes, pool noodles are a must. But yes, so having costume Green Jello again. That is this Tuesday night, the twenty seventh, at seven pm. The address is one thirty four Haines Street in Nashua. And I've never seen them live.
Speaker 14: I had I have not either, And this is a gracial thing because they don't do this all the time. This is a free concert that they wanted.
Speaker 12: To put on. Yeah, and they asked us to.
Speaker 14: Help them find the great location to host this free concert.
Speaker 12: And I'm just excited about that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well you helped to facilitate it.
Speaker 12: Yes, I did.
Speaker 14: I got to say I actually agree booked Green Jello twice.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was a radio and first show.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I was wild. You know where after they were on the show, what was that in June? Yeah, afterward, you know, we're talking. They were our last, our last guests of the day, so we were just kind of talking for a few minutes after the after we got off the air, and Bill Mansfield he's like, yeah, we're gonna be coming back through. We should if you got any where, if you got a venue for us, we'd love to do a free show somewhere.
Speaker 14: And it was very particular about that too. Yeah, that's something special they wanted to do, and I thought that was really awesome that they wanted to honor us here in the great state of New Hampshire with a free concert. And yeah, so come on out join us, Come say hi to Matt and I.
Speaker 9: I'd love to meet you in Parson absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 14: And good morning to Scott Scott Beatley Oh okay, he is in the chat room. He said, good morning Matt and Jen' good morning back. Good morning, be Pernard, I see you too. Under the Horizon is checking us out. They are talking that they're very happy and looking forward to coming in later this morning. We're going to see them in person, yes, which I'm really looking forward to. These guys are hard work works, hard workers and getting to open up for great whites.
Speaker 12: Pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 9: Well, our our guest hasn't skyped in yet, although he's got a he's got another thirty seconds. But I'll just quickly say so back in the day because I made reference to this earlier, and I'm sure we'll talk about it too when Mike is here. So Mike is is the dad of one of the band members, but Mike is and so he's managing them too and doing all this promotion for them. He's the one who reached out to us. But Mike Palmer years ago, he was in a band called Disorder by Design, and I was in a band at the time called My Life Crisis, and we played a lot of shows together.
Speaker 9: You know, I talk about it on the show a lot with different bands that come in. You know how sometimes it happens organically. Bands kind of team up and end they're playing a lot of shows together. So we played a lot of shows with Disorder by Design. Plus I booked them on some shows that My Life Crisis wasn't even on because at that time I was also doing a lot of promotion, you know, booking a lot of shows and whatnot. So I booked a Disorder by Design for a lot of shows, and they were I don't know, I don't know what ever happened to them.
Speaker 9: They were a great band, very intense, live, really really good, very professional, and Mike was always you know, in Disorder by Design. He was always the guy too who is you know, kind of the manager, business guy, so he was always wonderful to deal with. So uh when he when he reached out to us, he said, uh, he said in the email, he was like, is this is this the same Matt Connorton. I said, yeah, it's me, which you know it likely will be because there are very few of us. There are very few Matt Connorton's in the world.
Speaker 9: I've checked. There is another Matt Connorton right here in New Hampshire, but he's my uncle, so that kind of doesn't count.
Speaker 14: He was just letting me know that he sent a message on Skype, so hopefully he'll see my message to.
Speaker 9: Call our guest.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 12: I don't think that you can see that part. Yes, our guest is.
Speaker 9: He sent a message to us on Skype.
Speaker 12: That's what he says.
Speaker 9: That's what he said. Because you can't do that, but just.
Speaker 12: Sent over a message through Skype.
Speaker 9: Well sure, yeah, I mean you can't do that. You can message people on Skype, but I'm not seeing it. But he should just go ahead and go ahead and connect.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 9: Because I don't the way this, uh, the way the Skype accounts set up, I don't have to accept his message before he connects with us. He can just connect with us. I think you have the option of setting it so only people with whom you've previously connected can skype you. Ok, there's different you know, there's different ways you can set it up, but ours, I think is open. I think I think literally anybody in the world if they had our Skype ID. Not that we're going to give it out because we don't want just anybody in the world doing that, but I think anyone can skype us.
Speaker 9: That's true if they have the idea.
Speaker 14: They have the idea, yes, yes, or if they think they can look it up on email too. Oh wait, we don't do that anything.
Speaker 9: There's different ways to do it. But skype is funny and quirky and weird, but it works a lot better than it used to. I remember, way back first you using Oh he's actually calling the studio line.
Speaker 12: Oh okay, well was it that?
Speaker 9: Assuming this is him, hopefully hopefully Hello, is this our guests?
Speaker 3: Hey, Matt's Kadaver.
Speaker 15: How you doing?
Speaker 9: Oh it's Kay Deaver. Hey what's that?
Speaker 16: Man?
Speaker 15: Hey, I don't know. If I'm crashing the party, feel free to kick me off. I'm I'm about to go to a shoot right now. And I just saw your Facebook live and it said call now, so I thought I'll just join in and say hi.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do have a guest who's supposed to be skyping in momentarily, but he hasn't yet. He's a couple of minutes late, so he might be having a technical issue. So go ahead and plug what you're doing. Man, what you said you're going to You got a you got a video shoot?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 15: So my company Fourth Kind Films, which is so I just said Kayaver in the sense that that's how you know me. But yes, I don't want to say I have left that life. I still like do music dabbling, but I pretty much put all my focus into my home company over the last year and a half, which is pretty much wow, just gone to the moon. I have commercials on NBC right now for Canaan Bridges, working on documentaries everything in between. I do recruitment videos for police departments. I do weddings, music videos, you name it.
Speaker 15: And so right now I'm going over to this event called the apple Pie Fair.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 15: It's the event Newport, New Hampshire. So I gotta do a little event recap for them today and then next week I gotta play their shoots as well. But yeah, that's what I got going on. Man, I was life to you.
Speaker 9: Good, good, that's awesome.
Speaker 12: We should get you in.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Our guest just joined us via Skype, so we're gonna shift over to him. But I'm really glad you called. That's amazing. Congratulations on that. And you know, Jenny does the booking for the show now, so let's get you back on partly because it would be great to see you, but also I definitely want to get updated on everything that you're doing, because that's great news. It sounds like you're having a ton of success and I'm very very happy for you. You deserve it. You've been at this a while and you deserve it.
Speaker 15: Man, absolutely, just one more time formeone out there, Fourth Kind Films. You can find me on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 4: All that. I get.
Speaker 15: My apologies for crashing. I know sometimes you do kind of open platform shows for people to call in, so I thought that was one of those times. But I'll let you go back to doing what you're doing.
Speaker 9: No, you're you're timing.
Speaker 12: You were perfect.
Speaker 9: Your timing was perfect, my friend. And yes, we will talk to you soon. All right, all right, kaya or take care? All right? Very nice, very nice. Let's see here. And uh so we do have our guests as uh Boden, can you hear me? Yes, sir, very good, Boden Greenley? Am I saying that correctly? Boden?
Speaker 16: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's not a name I think I've ever seen before, but I like it. It's cool. Yeah, So Boden Greenley is skyping in. Now, where are you, Bowden? Where are you located?
Speaker 16: I'm in North Dakota.
Speaker 9: North Dakota. Oh, okay, Fargo. Well, well we all know about Fargo because of the movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But uh, so you have written a book which I read, and thank you for sending that to us. Uh person, absolutely perseverance and.
Speaker 3: Very you know.
Speaker 9: I referenced earlier when I when I mentioned that you were going to be joining us. Uh, I mentioned that, you know, pretty pretty heavy stuff. It's a heavy subject. It's it's a light read in the sense that it's not particularly long, but but it but it's not a light read in the sense that, like I said, it's it's it's pretty heavy stuff. And let me let me ask you this right up front, and we can kind of work backwards a little bit. But I want to know this and then we'll get into for our listeners what it's about and everything.
Speaker 9: But how is your mother now? Because the book is of course about the ordeal health wise that your mother has been through as we sit here today, how is she doing?
Speaker 16: Yeah, so she's she's definitely better than she was at her worst by a lot, but she's certainly not one hundred percent i'd say, somewhere in the forty realm.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, okay, which I think I think in the book. That's kind of where you left it was about. She was at about forty percent, So yes, So Boden, if we could, can you go ahead and tell us about the book and what it's about, and you know, I'm sure I'll have some questions. I read it the other night, and I'll have some questions along the way, But for our listeners to kind of get acquainted, I'd like you to kind of tell us a little bit about the book and what it is that drove you to write this.
Speaker 16: Yeah. So this was something that I'd wanted to write for a long time. It was a situation that directly involved me, and once I got a little older here, I was like, I feel like this is something that is more common than the industry makes it seem like. It is, like this is something to me, I feel everybody kind of sweeps under the rug, and I really wanted to get this story out there and make people knowledgeable on this topic. So basically, going back, so right now, I'm nineteen years old, This started when I was about twelve years old.
Speaker 16: So going back, she had a tooth issue going on and she was needed an implant and was debating on getting a ceramic or a titanium implant, and she doctors pushed her to go titanium. She decided to go titanium, got that put in there, and then probably like three months after getting it, she started getting all these terrible things going on in her body started getting really bad. She ended up getting it out like probably seven months after that, and then just from there on just kept it was really bad that next year and then got a little bit better, but then it's still been struggling with problems for a long long time.
Speaker 9: And as this is going on, did she or did anyone have any idea that it was the tooth?
Speaker 16: Yeah? Yeah, I mean it was. It was pretty much clear as day that it was the tooth. She was she was as healthy as you could possibly be. Prior to this. She was a person that was like lifting every day, ran a lot, all these things, and no just common anything was taken her down at all.
Speaker 2: Like she was.
Speaker 16: She was literally as healthy as it could be and then got this tooth and right after boom, we got we had problems galore.
Speaker 9: And this is have you been able to find other documented cases similar to this or or is this such a rare thing that that that you really can't find anything like this happening to anybody.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I actually, you know, I haven't looked into specific cases a ton, but even so, I'm from a pretty small town, and I even know a couple people close to me that had similar symptoms to my mom when getting titanium put in their body, So I know that happens.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, it's frustrating.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: Jenny, of course, with her her experience and what she's been through, she knows a lot about when it's difficult to get something diagnosed and you know, figuring out exactly what the problem is. You know, she has a lot of experience with that, and I'm sure there's a lot of people who can relate to that. You know, when you're dealing with something that's unusual, it's it's so much harder to get it diagnosed because you know, if it's not something common, you know, really, I mean, why would the medical community know a lot about it or be able to figure out and identify the problem and then go from there and figure out solutions if it's something that doesn't happen very often exactly so, so the titanium, it's sort of poisoned her right, it caused her, it wrecked her health in a sense.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So this is one thing I want to really kind of clear here. So in my opinion, I don't believe that the titanium is a huge issue when dealing with this. The problem is titanium implants are six percent aluminum, and that's where the problem became. So they use aluminum as a filler metal. It's because aluminum per ounce is way cheaper than titanium per ounce, so they can use that. And keep in mind they're outputting two point five million implants per year, so when you're talking that scale, that money that it takes to create the implant, that really matters.
Speaker 16: So the aluminum was the issue.
Speaker 14: And if I were, oh, go ahead, Jenny Wood, No, I'm just I'm shocked. Yeah, And I never knew. I never knew that there was aluminum in the titanium implants.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it never knew that. It's interesting that you say that because I think in the book, I think you kind of talk about that too, and that they they don't tell you that upfront, right, Like don't they kind of sell it to you as it's titanium and they just say that's what it is, and they don't tell you while it's titanium, but it's also aluminum, and it's.
Speaker 16: This and it's that, yeah exactly. And it's like maybe somewhere in the fine print of the contract that's what they say it in there. Yeah, but they definitely don't make it clear when they're telling you, that's for sure. And the thing too is, I don't know if you guys know lately, there's been a big uprising with aluminum in the deodorance that I'm.
Speaker 12: Very aware of. I'm a Brescia survivor.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So it's like, to me, how can so now everybody's opening up to aluminum and deodorance, which is simply just putting it on topically on your skin, but then it's okay to implant it into your body. It's like, that makes no.
Speaker 12: Sense, right, that's a super valid point. Yeah, yeah, aluminum and deodorant. That's one of the things.
Speaker 14: One of the first things they told me to stop using was antiperspirant because that's the main ingredient there is the aluminum. Yep, the ordorant by itself doesn't have it.
Speaker 16: Right, right, And let me take a guess, so you said, you're a breast cancer survivor. Yep, was your breast cancer like really close to your armpit?
Speaker 14: No, actually it was closer to my back. It was in the back of my breast tissue. And there was also a pre cancerous area that had started under the areola. Okay, I kind of had it on both sides of this area. As far as thickness goes, it was way upfront and way in the back.
Speaker 9: Does make it does make you wonder though, a little bit, right, of course, of course.
Speaker 14: I mean I I can remember when I was a kid by dad going it's time for you to get theodorant.
Speaker 12: Now, you know it?
Speaker 14: Like, yeah, it was like a thing you had to start using deodorant. I mean yeah, and always used yoterant. That's like it's ingrained in your head.
Speaker 12: Right, How many of us bring it to school and reapply?
Speaker 9: I mean right?
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah. I was reading a study the other day. I don't remember exactly what it was, but there's a big increase in breast cancer towards the or really close to the armpit because of the They're saying it's directly linked to the aluminum in the well.
Speaker 14: That's that's where the main lymph nodes start, and that's where the first two lymph nodes are that are normally and in my case, we're dissected and removed. Sure, and some people lose way more than that because they keep going. They start with those lymph nodes right in the armpit. You're one hundred percent correct, and then it goes backwards from there.
Speaker 9: Yeah. No, that's interesting.
Speaker 14: You've certainly done your resource, that's for sure. And this is good information to be sharing. Most people don't consider what's in their anti pressproot right that they're using, and that aluminum actually like blocks you and then gets into your body.
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, right, and.
Speaker 16: That's why they put it in there, because it actually clogs the gland so you don't sweat as much exactly.
Speaker 9: That makes sense. That makes sense, And nobody, nobody.
Speaker 12: Wants to sweat and be sa and you're really better off if you do sweat. Wedding is a good thing. Your body's supposed to do it for a reason.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's true. One of the things that surprised me in the book Boden was and this surprised me in a very very sad way. Is I kind of thought as I'm reading it as you're going through the story. Once they identified that the tooth was was that titanium slash aluminum tooth was what was probably the issue, and they took it out. I would have thought, I would have hoped that over time she would start to get better. And I guess she did start to get better, right, but not not enough. As you said, even today, she's still at only forty percent.
Speaker 9: Because I remember get into that part in the story and thinking, Okay, this is probably a good turning point. Right now she's now that they've taken that out, hopefully she's hopefully she's sweating it out. Hopefully you know, it's it's leaving her body. But uh, but apparently not or or maybe it has, but but the the damage is done. I don't know, I mean, what what what?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 9: What do you say about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 16: It really is remarkable to me, and I truly don't understand it. We I don't know. I think she might go in here and see we were thinking there might still be fragments of something in her body, because that's what I'm thinking. There's absolutely no way something takes this long to heal, and I just think her body is whatever is in her body, she just cannot defend it. So, yeah, it's it truly is remarkable. And if there isn't anything else, I don't know. She just yeah, her body just fighting it off is impossible.
Speaker 16: It's crazy.
Speaker 14: I'm wondering what got put into her bloodstream, into her body, because this is really hitting home for me because of the tomocks Fin toxicity that I have.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm Tomock's beIN toxic. My body can't get rid of it.
Speaker 14: It implanted itself everywhere and I'll always be Tomock's Fin toxic.
Speaker 12: There's no way to clear it out of my body.
Speaker 14: So and it has had significant effects to my eyes and my ears. I mean my right eye has a hole in it because of it. But I'm like relating to your mom's story so much because I'm thinking, yeah, she had this in her body, and your mouth is actually super super for us, right. This is in fact, it's one of the fastest ways to give you a medication is under your tongue. That is literally one of the fastest ways. So you have to remember that it's also one of the quickest ways to get sick because it's oftentimes people will get a tooth infection.
Speaker 14: Those untreated gets into the blood system, and now you can actually die from it. I mean I've seen I have seen people in the intensive care unit with something that started in their mouth. So that's one hundred percent true. So it makes me think that that aluminum that was in her mouth for however long, that there's some kind of like chemical or whatever that got into her bloodstream because of that and is just simply she's got it and it maybe it's just not you know, there's no there may be no way to completely cleanse her of it, as there is no way to completely cleanse me of tomoxyfin.
Speaker 14: I'm always going to have deposits in various parts of my body of it. Yeah, I wonder if that's what it is.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: I just feel so identify with with your mom so much because of that.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, what inspired you to write the book, Boden?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I so.
Speaker 16: My main reason is I want to get this information out there. I you know, I come back to do I think titanium is the worst thing in the world. No, but if we're gonna be still doing these things, it needs to be one hundred percent titanium or I believe that ceramic or zirconia implants are much superior. That's what the holistic dentists are preaching now. But I just want people to be aware that when they put these things in their body, that there's a even if it's a really small chance, that it completely ruins your life.
Speaker 16: And I think that that is gonna make you think twice before getting it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I assume too, you're only nineteen, right, so I assume your mom is pretty young, and she's got a lot ahead of her.
Speaker 16: So, yeah, she's forty eight.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's got to be. And you talk too in the book about how prior to all this happening, she was very healthy, very fit, and uh not someone who I mean, it's got to be. Obviously it would be difficult for anybody to go through this, but I would imagine it's especially difficult for someone like her who's used to being so active.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it, it is terrible. I mean none, nothing short of terrible. She she's super fit person, she was a dietitian, physical trainer all that, so that was like her big thing and it's been really difficults hard.
Speaker 9: There's a point in the book too that that I found particularly heartbreaking. When she was she she was at a point where she was starting to feel better, significantly better, and it seemed like it was a really good turning point, and she kind of maybe she pushed herself a little too hard or something, but she was out somewhere, I think maybe with one of your siblings, if I remember correctly, Yes, and she was really she was having a good day and it was going well, and she's feeling good, and then all of a sudden, she just started feeling terrible again, and it was just this enormous setback, and I think she fell, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So so there was there was kind of two so you're referring to when she took my little brother to the zoo, and actually, oh, it wasn't It wasn't anything super crazy. She just she literally just walked too much. That's what she says. She she walked too much that day and she felt like a big just drop. She calls it poison in her body because that's it feels like tingling all over and she felt it drop into her legs and she said she knew she was in trouble when that happened.
Speaker 9: Oh god.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then it was after that it was kind of back to square one, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so she had up to that point, she had gotten that was the best she'd been before that day. She was probably up to a good sixty percent and then yeah, that happened, and been struggling more with the lower body.
Speaker 9: Now, wow, that's horrible.
Speaker 14: It sounds like CPS. Yeah, yeah, because that's what happened with me. Everything was upper body and then it dropped into my legs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so crazy.
Speaker 14: I'm so sorry your almost had to struggle through these. I commend you for what you're doing. It's so important to get this, to get information out there so people are informed and can make informed choices.
Speaker 16: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: How does she feel about the book?
Speaker 16: You know, so kind of funny here right away. So I didn't tell her that I wrote it until it was already done, because I knew that she was kind of a stubborn person and is kind of embarrassed about the whole situation and probably did not want to be a main focal talking point. But then once I brought it to her, she was really happy and we had a good moment about it, and I told her that this is a message that needs to get out there, and it sucks that you're kind of the talking point, but it has to get out there.
Speaker 16: I just don't want to see this happen to a lot of people.
Speaker 9: So has this kind of spurred her to do any other like does she do any interviews or any kind of media about this or is it just just your book for now that you've written.
Speaker 16: Mainly just my book for now? Yeah, she's not. She just doesn't really like that kind of thing talking about it. You know, she's she's just a super She's a stubborn person. She's tough nosed, and she's yeah, like I said, kind of embarrassed about it. So I'll be the guy to talk about it absolutely.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you know, to be able to do this and even survive, you know, you've got to be tough, right, So so yeah, someone someone not with the fortitude that she obviously has, you know, would have thrown in the towel by now. But she's obviously a very strong person to be able to continue to deal with this every day and continue to function and live and Wow, And have you written other things prior to this or is this your first book.
Speaker 16: Or have you read that this was my first book?
Speaker 9: Wow? Good for you good for you. No, it's excellent. Did you have an editor or did you do everything yourself?
Speaker 16: Or yeah? I had a I had an editor, and then I had a guy who helped me with the cover.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, No, it's very good. I encourage people to read it.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 9: I'm also curious because I don't think you addressed this specifically in the book, but in terms of so they removed the titanium, you know, and partially aluminum tooth. Did they replace it with something or does she just not have a tooth there now or what happened there?
Speaker 16: Yeah, she's just empty there.
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, yes, sir, I didn't know if I didn't know if there was a danger in not putting something else there or I mean, I guess at the moment, it probably doesn't much matter because what she's already dealing with is so difficult that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. It was like at the time when they were taking it out, you know, they probably would have wanted to put something back over top, but she was just like, I feel so bad right now, just get it out and we'll deal with it after.
Speaker 9: That makes sense, though, I can definitely understand that. I can understand that is there any is there any kind of hope?
Speaker 14: What have you?
Speaker 9: And and she and your family been able to find anything that any sort of alternative treatment or anything that that might help her or she just kind of kind of stuck at forty percent. And that's that's kind of it for the moment.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I've I've been really reaching out to a lot of people I've found in the more alley of holistic dentistry, which is more like natural practice dentistry, and there's some there's potentially some heavy metal detox We're going to look into down the road here that I want to get into. But she's actually going in I believe next week sometime to get a scan of her head to make sure there's no leftover fragments.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, excellent, and then if U of course, and that's that'll be If they find something, that's half the battle I guess right locating, but then they have to figure out how to get it out.
Speaker 16: Right, so which then that will be difficult. But if they find something, we'll get it done.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and at least too then you'll know. Then you'll have an answer, you know, is that is that?
Speaker 13: What it is?
Speaker 9: Is there any kind of a theory about why, because, like I said, that, there's that point where she started feeling significantly better. I mean, I assume you've probably all been over this a million times, but has have have you and she and your family tried to figure out what it was during that period that was different that helped her to feel so much better before she she had that setback and all of that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I I really don't know. It's such a it's such an interesting thing to me. It's like, like you stated earlier, it's like when when once we got it removed, you're thinking, all right, we're probably getting better here, you know, eventually at least.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 16: She was getting so much better, and I'm thinking, oh, yes, I'm fine, my mom's finally going to be all the way better. And then it was just like one day she walks too much, Like what the f. You know, there's there's no way. I mean, she she was as fit as somebody could be, so to her even walking a lot that was like exerting twenty percent, you know, So there's there's just no and I yeah, I really don't understand. But yeah, to answer your question, I don't really know what it was exactly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and it must be so hard to And you do talk about this quite a bit in the book. You know, you get very personal about the challenges for your family. You know, obviously she's going through this terrible thing, but it but it affects all of you. You know, it affects your dad and your siblings and how hard that is and how you know and and when you're a kid, you know, I mean, it's probably although adults, it's it's a challenge for anybody right of any age, but especially when you're growing up.
Speaker 9: And you know when you're this started when you were twelve, right, you said you were twelve when this whole thing started, Yes, sir, like you don't know it that age? How to how to handle all of this emotionally and to see your mother going through this and your sibling. Are you the oldest of uh? Are you the oldest of three?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 16: I am the oldest. And then I got right in so right now I'm nineteen. I have a middle brother who's sixteen, and then I have a youngest brother who's ten.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah, I mean your ten year old brothers. You know, for him, it's got to be very very hard. Oh yeah, oh absolutely.
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, it was really hard. And I talked about this a little bit. I did a bad job as well. You know, I was I was so young, and I kind of just got caught up in my own little world and I almost I talked about a little bit. I almost got annoyed. You know, it's say, why am why is this? This just isn't fair to me selfishly thinking why is my mom like this? This is ridiculous. But then it's like later on it's like, oh man, I was terrible.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: Now, don't do that to yourself. Yeah, to yourself. You're you're you're young, You're you know, you're a kid.
Speaker 14: Your brain is wired a particular way, and it's not a bad thing about you that in that moment you weren't able to view the entire the entirety of what was going on. I mean, that's just a process of getting older. You can't fault yourself for being a kid and not seeing a full view because you just didn't get there yet. You know, now you do, look at everything you're doing. You're doing incredible things. You didn't just come around. You came around to become a champion, to make sure that other people are forewarned.
Speaker 14: And that's absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's you know, it's good to reflect on.
Speaker 11: This.
Speaker 9: There's such a thin line between you know, kind of reflecting and analyzing, a thin line between that and ruminating on the past and beating yourself up and whatnot. But I but I think, you know, it's good to reflect on on what you maybe could have done differently so that you're able to be supportive going forward. But again, like Jenny, like Jenny said, I mean, when you're a kid, you know, you're you're still trying to mature and and uh and grow emotionally, and you know, to feel some sort of resentment or frustration along the way or well you know that's perfectly normal.
Speaker 9: That's normal for adults too, but but especially when you're a kid, it's like, you know, you got a you really got got your family, your mom especially, but your family really got dealta that bad hand, uh with this uh, this whole situation. So you did the best you could and and and the great thing about writing this book is, you know, hopefully this is going to help other people. Like you said, you want to raise awareness about this and kind of warn people about what they might be getting into. And uh, you know, make sure too that you're you know, if somebody wants to put titanium in, you read the fine print, make sure you know is ask your doctor, ask the surgeon.
Speaker 9: Is there anything else other than titanium. I'm trying to think of what else do they use titanium for it? I'm not sure hip replacements, right, I think hip replacements are.
Speaker 14: Everything pretty much is because it doesn't set up a metal detector, and it's it's it's a rather good material.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: I mean everybody, you know, you need to be informed.
Speaker 14: Maybe there's things you look out for, you know, maybe maybe there's some kind of allergy involved with aluminium that triggers in some people and not others.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know, you don't.
Speaker 14: I'm good a titanium knee and it went remarkably well. Yeah, So there's there's the good, and you know, there's good and bad in anything. So really just being fully informed and then making informed choices, you know, or maybe you know, maybe you get tested for heavy metal or whatever.
Speaker 12: I don't know what the exact answer is to it, you.
Speaker 9: Know, yeah, yeah, does doesn't sound like anyone does.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of tough because, like you said, and I kind of say this a little bit too, It's like most people are probably gonna get it and be just fine. But in my opinion, I think if something like this is even a potential, I just don't find myself taking that risk. And I think as time goes on, we're going to start to see alternatives that are safer or at least, like I said, I would like to see everything be all one hundred percent titanium. I would be more okay with that even.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now that you've written this book, do you have plans to write another one, or are you going to continue writing or maybe maybe write about other things or what's kind of your trajectory in terms of writing.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I never thought I would do anything even close to this. It's funny because when I was probably mid teens, I said how much I hated reading, and then now I'm just I'm just a reading freak. I love reading and I love writing too. So yeah, but as for writing more, my hope, my hope is that we find an answer with my mom, we get her detox, and I want to write about that. That is my that is my end goal.
Speaker 9: Oh and that would be wonderful. That would be a wonderful book to write, wouldn't it.
Speaker 16: Yes, that would be That would be awesome.
Speaker 9: I would love to read that. So yeah, so hopefully, hopefully that happens. Boden Greenley, thank you so much. Before we let you go, too, I want to make sure everyone knows where to get your book. Of course, it is called Perseverance. And what do people need to know about how to get it?
Speaker 16: Yeah? So right now it's available on Amazon.
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, well that's easy. Yeah, that's easy. And we should tell people to tell people how to because Boden is not a name you here every day? How do people spell that when they're looking for you?
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's b O E d N. And then Greenley is green l E y.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, well listen, thank you so much for joining us today. Like I said, I it's an excellent book. I I want to say I enjoyed reading, but enjoy isn't quite the right word, because, like I said, it's such a it's such an unhappy subject. But yeah, but I'm really glad, I'm really glad that you sent it to us and that we were able to do this today and and help uh absolutely, you know, if even if we help one person or or prevent possibly one person from making a mistake, that's that's a good thing.
Speaker 9: So I'm really glad you were able to do join us and and even you know, even if it's a while before you have written anything else, if you have any kind of a big update on your mom in the future, we'd love to have you back. This is something that we want to continue to pay attention to and and support you and your family and in any way that we can. So so let's uh, let's definitely stay in touch. Boden.
Speaker 16: Absolutely great, all right, very.
Speaker 9: Good Boden Greenley, thank you so much, and we'll we'll talk to you again in the future, I'm sure.
Speaker 16: Yeah, thank you guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 9: You got it, all right, Bye bye bye bye. All right. So that was Boden Greenley, and he is the author of Perseverance, which you can find it, uh and on dot com. And yeah, like I said, it's a it's a good read, but a very it's a very difficult subject.
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