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11:02 Speaker 9: Good morning everybody, Welcome, Here we go. It is that

11:05 Speaker 9: time again, Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from

11:09 Speaker 9: the studios of w m n H ninety five point

11:12 Speaker 9: three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. It is Saturday

11:17 Speaker 9: August twenty four, twenty twenty four. We've got a great

11:20 Speaker 9: show for you today and I am not alone in studio.

11:31 Speaker 13: Jenny john.

11:33 Speaker 12: Best Treasure Morning Sunshine.

11:36 Speaker 9: Jenny is here of course at the news table. Yes, yes,

11:41 Speaker 9: and in just a couple of minutes we're going to

11:42 Speaker 9: be joined via Skype by Bowden Greenley. He's the author

11:47 Speaker 9: of a book called Perseverance, which I read I had

11:50 Speaker 9: the pleasure of reading recently. Looking forward to speaking with

11:53 Speaker 9: him about it, although it's a pretty heavy subject, but

11:55 Speaker 9: we'll get into that. Of course, we've got Silicon Kong

11:58 Speaker 9: in the second hour and third hour under the Horizon,

12:02 Speaker 9: which is I'm particularly looking forward to speaking with them

12:06 Speaker 9: because not only do I love their sound, but the

12:13 Speaker 9: manager of the band is somebody who I used to

12:15 Speaker 9: do a lot of business with back in the day,

12:17 Speaker 9: and he was in a band and I was in

12:19 Speaker 9: a band and we played a lot of shows together

12:20 Speaker 9: and so forth. So I'm really looking forward to that.

12:22 Speaker 9: But so it'll be a fun show today.

12:25 Speaker 12: Yes, it's going to be yes, yes, yes, yes.

12:29 Speaker 9: Do we have time? Yeah, we should mention what's the

12:31 Speaker 9: event there that you wanted to.

12:33 Speaker 14: Yeah, So the Gail Singer blood Drive just happened and

12:37 Speaker 14: I went there, and I want to encourage you please

12:40 Speaker 14: consider donating blood if you did not in this past drive.

12:44 Speaker 14: There are lots of opportunities to and right now this

12:46 Speaker 14: is actually a critical blood supply shortage, which means lives

12:50 Speaker 14: are on the line. So if you have the ability

12:52 Speaker 14: to do it, it doesn't take long, about an hour

12:55 Speaker 14: or so out of your time or even less depending

12:57 Speaker 14: on you know where you go for the go for it.

13:00 Speaker 14: But it's quick, it's easy, and you have the ability

13:03 Speaker 14: to save lives. Also about saving lives. While I was there,

13:07 Speaker 14: the American Red Cross has a really great program to

13:12 Speaker 14: try and prevent people from dying in house fires and

13:16 Speaker 14: you can actually get a free smoke alarm installed in

13:19 Speaker 14: your house and they'll check your house and let you

13:22 Speaker 14: know if there are any fire hazards you need to

13:24 Speaker 14: take care of. So if you know, the bad thing happens,

13:27 Speaker 14: you guys get out alive and you get out safely.

13:30 Speaker 14: So if you're interested in getting a free smoke alarm

13:32 Speaker 14: and having your house check to see if you have

13:35 Speaker 14: any fire hazards that you can take care of, just

13:38 Speaker 14: check out the American Red Cross.

13:40 Speaker 4: Now.

13:41 Speaker 14: You can go to their website at Redcross dot org

13:44 Speaker 14: and just look up in home smoke alarm and you

13:47 Speaker 14: can find out where you can get it there, or

13:49 Speaker 14: you can give them a call at one eight hundred

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14:06 Speaker 14: and make sure that you and your family will be

14:08 Speaker 14: able to get out of your house safely. So absolutely

14:10 Speaker 14: check that out. Also, if you're not able to donate blood,

14:15 Speaker 14: you can be a volunteer and that's always the need,

14:19 Speaker 14: So if you're interested in being a volunteer, check out

14:21 Speaker 14: the Red Cross red Cross dot org backslash volunteer and

14:25 Speaker 14: consider doing that.

14:26 Speaker 12: They do great things for us.

14:28 Speaker 14: And I can tell you as a former EMT and

14:31 Speaker 14: working in an emergency room, blood supplies our life one

14:36 Speaker 14: hundred percent something bad happens, and that emergency blood is

14:40 Speaker 14: literally the difference between life and death for.

14:42 Speaker 12: A lot of people.

14:43 Speaker 14: And there's actually a lot of illnesses that are treated

14:47 Speaker 14: by blood donations. So you can help people that are

14:50 Speaker 14: chronically ill and perhaps they need immunoglobbin. If you've got

14:53 Speaker 14: some to give, please consider donating.

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14:59 Speaker 12: Immun immunoglobin.

15:01 Speaker 9: Yes, I'm going to work with ivyies a lot now immunoglobin.

15:04 Speaker 14: So that's actually what they call the what my neurologist

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15:19 Speaker 9: You need a lot of immunoglobins.

15:21 Speaker 14: Yes, well, there are people that cannot live without it.

15:26 Speaker 14: They are their bodies are so bad that they need

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15:33 Speaker 14: it is a really big deal. Please consider doing it.

15:36 Speaker 14: And like I said, the American Red Cross is giving

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15:41 Speaker 14: you and help you stay safe and prevent a fire

15:45 Speaker 14: from taking you or your loved one's lives.

15:47 Speaker 9: Well, very good, very good. Also, we should mention so

15:51 Speaker 9: a couple quickly. And we've got a couple of shows

15:52 Speaker 9: to go to. So yeah, tomorrow night we're going to

15:55 Speaker 9: go Great White. We're going to see them at Tupelo

15:58 Speaker 9: because opening for them is under the horraz we'll talk

16:01 Speaker 9: more about that in the third hour when the band

16:03 Speaker 9: is with us.

16:03 Speaker 12: I'm going.

16:05 Speaker 9: And then also, and this has been a few months

16:09 Speaker 9: in the making now, but Tuesday Night, Yes, green Jello

16:13 Speaker 9: slash green Jelly. I'm never sure which name to call them.

16:16 Speaker 9: I think they prefer green Jello. Green Jelly was just

16:20 Speaker 9: so a legal alternative, shall we say. But they were

16:23 Speaker 9: on the show with us a couple of months ago

16:25 Speaker 9: after they played here in Manchester, and Tuesday Night they're

16:27 Speaker 9: going to be at Terminus in Nashua. We had, of

16:31 Speaker 9: course our friends from Terminus and the Midnight Creators Collective

16:36 Speaker 9: Midnight Creativetive Collective. Yes, I always get that wrong. Eleanor

16:40 Speaker 9: and Andre and Spelfe here with us a couple of

16:42 Speaker 9: weeks ago. But this Tuesday night's the big night Green

16:45 Speaker 9: Jello at Terminus. It is a free show at seven pm.

16:50 Speaker 9: It is twenty one plus b yob but come check

16:53 Speaker 9: it out. Terminus is amazing. You can see Jenny's art.

16:57 Speaker 9: Jenny is the featured artist there on the wall at

17:01 Speaker 9: the Midnight Creatives Collective and my darkest.

17:05 Speaker 14: Piece, yes, which was really crazy to see them hanging

17:08 Speaker 14: all together.

17:09 Speaker 12: Yeah, really really bizarre.

17:10 Speaker 14: So yeah, if you want to check out some of

17:11 Speaker 14: my darkest work, you can actually see that while we're

17:14 Speaker 14: seeing Green Jello and I am so excited to the

17:16 Speaker 14: cops are.

17:17 Speaker 9: And bring your bring your pool noodles if you have, yes,

17:19 Speaker 9: pool noodles are a must. But yes, so having costume

17:23 Speaker 9: Green Jello again. That is this Tuesday night, the twenty seventh,

17:26 Speaker 9: at seven pm. The address is one thirty four Haines

17:30 Speaker 9: Street in Nashua. And I've never seen them live.

17:33 Speaker 14: I had I have not either, And this is a

17:35 Speaker 14: gracial thing because they don't do this all the time.

17:38 Speaker 14: This is a free concert that they wanted.

17:41 Speaker 12: To put on. Yeah, and they asked us to.

17:43 Speaker 14: Help them find the great location to host this free concert.

17:47 Speaker 12: And I'm just excited about that.

17:49 Speaker 9: Yeah, well you helped to facilitate it.

17:51 Speaker 12: Yes, I did.

17:51 Speaker 14: I got to say I actually agree booked Green Jello twice.

17:56 Speaker 4: Now.

17:57 Speaker 12: Yeah, it was a radio and first show.

17:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I was wild. You know where after they

18:02 Speaker 9: were on the show, what was that in June? Yeah, afterward,

18:05 Speaker 9: you know, we're talking. They were our last, our last

18:08 Speaker 9: guests of the day, so we were just kind of

18:10 Speaker 9: talking for a few minutes after the after we got

18:12 Speaker 9: off the air, and Bill Mansfield he's like, yeah, we're

18:14 Speaker 9: gonna be coming back through. We should if you got

18:16 Speaker 9: any where, if you got a venue for us, we'd

18:18 Speaker 9: love to do a free show somewhere.

18:20 Speaker 14: And it was very particular about that too. Yeah, that's

18:22 Speaker 14: something special they wanted to do, and I thought that

18:24 Speaker 14: was really awesome that they wanted to honor us here

18:27 Speaker 14: in the great state of New Hampshire with a free concert.

18:31 Speaker 14: And yeah, so come on out join us, Come say

18:33 Speaker 14: hi to Matt and I.

18:35 Speaker 9: I'd love to meet you in Parson absolutely absolutely so.

18:38 Speaker 14: And good morning to Scott Scott Beatley Oh okay, he

18:42 Speaker 14: is in the chat room. He said, good morning Matt

18:44 Speaker 14: and Jen' good morning back. Good morning, be Pernard, I

18:47 Speaker 14: see you too. Under the Horizon is checking us out.

18:51 Speaker 14: They are talking that they're very happy and looking forward

18:54 Speaker 14: to coming in later this morning. We're going to see

18:56 Speaker 14: them in person, yes, which I'm really looking forward to.

18:58 Speaker 14: These guys are hard work works, hard workers and getting

19:02 Speaker 14: to open up for great whites.

19:03 Speaker 12: Pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool.

19:06 Speaker 9: Well, our our guest hasn't skyped in yet, although he's

19:09 Speaker 9: got a he's got another thirty seconds. But I'll just

19:12 Speaker 9: quickly say so back in the day because I made

19:15 Speaker 9: reference to this earlier, and I'm sure we'll talk about

19:17 Speaker 9: it too when Mike is here. So Mike is is

19:19 Speaker 9: the dad of one of the band members, but Mike

19:21 Speaker 9: is and so he's managing them too and doing all

19:24 Speaker 9: this promotion for them. He's the one who reached out

19:25 Speaker 9: to us. But Mike Palmer years ago, he was in

19:30 Speaker 9: a band called Disorder by Design, and I was in

19:33 Speaker 9: a band at the time called My Life Crisis, and

19:36 Speaker 9: we played a lot of shows together. You know, I

19:37 Speaker 9: talk about it on the show a lot with different

19:40 Speaker 9: bands that come in. You know how sometimes it happens organically.

19:43 Speaker 9: Bands kind of team up and end they're playing a

19:45 Speaker 9: lot of shows together. So we played a lot of

19:46 Speaker 9: shows with Disorder by Design. Plus I booked them on

19:49 Speaker 9: some shows that My Life Crisis wasn't even on because

19:51 Speaker 9: at that time I was also doing a lot of promotion,

19:53 Speaker 9: you know, booking a lot of shows and whatnot. So

19:55 Speaker 9: I booked a Disorder by Design for a lot of shows,

19:57 Speaker 9: and they were I don't know, I don't know what

20:00 Speaker 9: ever happened to them. They were a great band, very intense, live,

20:04 Speaker 9: really really good, very professional, and Mike was always you know,

20:07 Speaker 9: in Disorder by Design. He was always the guy too

20:10 Speaker 9: who is you know, kind of the manager, business guy,

20:14 Speaker 9: so he was always wonderful to deal with. So uh

20:17 Speaker 9: when he when he reached out to us, he said, uh,

20:21 Speaker 9: he said in the email, he was like, is this

20:23 Speaker 9: is this the same Matt Connorton. I said, yeah, it's me,

20:26 Speaker 9: which you know it likely will be because there are

20:30 Speaker 9: very few of us. There are very few Matt Connorton's

20:32 Speaker 9: in the world. I've checked. There is another Matt Connorton

20:35 Speaker 9: right here in New Hampshire, but he's my uncle, so

20:37 Speaker 9: that kind of doesn't count.

20:39 Speaker 14: He was just letting me know that he sent a

20:42 Speaker 14: message on Skype, so hopefully he'll see my message to.

20:46 Speaker 9: Call our guest.

20:49 Speaker 7: Uh.

20:49 Speaker 12: I don't think that you can see that part. Yes,

20:52 Speaker 12: our guest is.

20:56 Speaker 9: He sent a message to us on Skype.

20:58 Speaker 12: That's what he says.

21:00 Speaker 9: That's what he said. Because you can't do that, but just.

21:03 Speaker 12: Sent over a message through Skype.

21:05 Speaker 9: Well sure, yeah, I mean you can't do that. You

21:08 Speaker 9: can message people on Skype, but I'm not seeing it.

21:10 Speaker 9: But he should just go ahead and go ahead and connect.

21:14 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's yeah.

21:15 Speaker 9: Because I don't the way this, uh, the way the

21:19 Speaker 9: Skype accounts set up, I don't have to accept his

21:22 Speaker 9: message before he connects with us. He can just connect

21:25 Speaker 9: with us. I think you have the option of setting

21:28 Speaker 9: it so only people with whom you've previously connected can

21:32 Speaker 9: skype you. Ok, there's different you know, there's different ways

21:35 Speaker 9: you can set it up, but ours, I think is open.

21:37 Speaker 9: I think I think literally anybody in the world if

21:39 Speaker 9: they had our Skype ID. Not that we're going to

21:41 Speaker 9: give it out because we don't want just anybody in

21:42 Speaker 9: the world doing that, but I think anyone can skype us.

21:45 Speaker 9: That's true if they have the idea.

21:46 Speaker 14: They have the idea, yes, yes, or if they think

21:49 Speaker 14: they can look it up on email too. Oh wait,

21:51 Speaker 14: we don't do that anything.

21:51 Speaker 9: There's different ways to do it. But skype is funny

21:54 Speaker 9: and quirky and weird, but it works a lot better

21:56 Speaker 9: than it used to. I remember, way back first you

22:00 Speaker 9: using Oh he's actually calling the studio line.

22:03 Speaker 12: Oh okay, well was it that?

22:04 Speaker 9: Assuming this is him, hopefully hopefully Hello, is this our guests?

22:13 Speaker 3: Hey, Matt's Kadaver.

22:14 Speaker 15: How you doing?

22:15 Speaker 9: Oh it's Kay Deaver. Hey what's that?

22:16 Speaker 16: Man?

22:19 Speaker 15: Hey, I don't know. If I'm crashing the party, feel

22:21 Speaker 15: free to kick me off. I'm I'm about to go

22:23 Speaker 15: to a shoot right now. And I just saw your

22:26 Speaker 15: Facebook live and it said call now, so I thought

22:28 Speaker 15: I'll just join in and say hi.

22:30 Speaker 9: Yeah, we do have a guest who's supposed to be

22:32 Speaker 9: skyping in momentarily, but he hasn't yet. He's a couple

22:36 Speaker 9: of minutes late, so he might be having a technical issue.

22:38 Speaker 9: So go ahead and plug what you're doing. Man, what

22:41 Speaker 9: you said you're going to You got a you got

22:42 Speaker 9: a video shoot?

22:45 Speaker 4: Yeah?

22:46 Speaker 15: So my company Fourth Kind Films, which is so I

22:51 Speaker 15: just said Kayaver in the sense that that's how you

22:53 Speaker 15: know me. But yes, I don't want to say I

22:55 Speaker 15: have left that life. I still like do music dabbling,

22:58 Speaker 15: but I pretty much put all my focus into my

23:00 Speaker 15: home company over the last year and a half, which

23:02 Speaker 15: is pretty much wow, just gone to the moon. I

23:04 Speaker 15: have commercials on NBC right now for Canaan Bridges, working

23:08 Speaker 15: on documentaries everything in between. I do recruitment videos for

23:13 Speaker 15: police departments. I do weddings, music videos, you name it.

23:17 Speaker 15: And so right now I'm going over to this event

23:19 Speaker 15: called the apple Pie Fair.

23:21 Speaker 9: Huh.

23:22 Speaker 15: It's the event Newport, New Hampshire. So I gotta do

23:24 Speaker 15: a little event recap for them today and then next

23:26 Speaker 15: week I gotta play their shoots as well. But yeah,

23:29 Speaker 15: that's what I got going on. Man, I was life

23:31 Speaker 15: to you.

23:31 Speaker 9: Good, good, that's awesome.

23:33 Speaker 12: We should get you in.

23:34 Speaker 16: Yeah.

23:34 Speaker 9: Yeah. Our guest just joined us via Skype, so we're

23:37 Speaker 9: gonna shift over to him. But I'm really glad you called.

23:40 Speaker 9: That's amazing. Congratulations on that. And you know, Jenny does

23:44 Speaker 9: the booking for the show now, so let's get you

23:46 Speaker 9: back on partly because it would be great to see you,

23:50 Speaker 9: but also I definitely want to get updated on everything

23:53 Speaker 9: that you're doing, because that's great news. It sounds like

23:55 Speaker 9: you're having a ton of success and I'm very very

23:57 Speaker 9: happy for you. You deserve it. You've been at this

23:59 Speaker 9: a while and you deserve it.

24:00 Speaker 15: Man, absolutely, just one more time formeone out there, Fourth

24:05 Speaker 15: Kind Films. You can find me on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.

24:08 Speaker 4: All that. I get.

24:09 Speaker 15: My apologies for crashing. I know sometimes you do kind

24:12 Speaker 15: of open platform shows for people to call in, so

24:14 Speaker 15: I thought that was one of those times. But I'll

24:15 Speaker 15: let you go back to doing what you're doing.

24:17 Speaker 9: No, you're you're timing.

24:18 Speaker 12: You were perfect.

24:18 Speaker 9: Your timing was perfect, my friend. And yes, we will

24:21 Speaker 9: talk to you soon. All right, all right, kaya or

24:24 Speaker 9: take care? All right? Very nice, very nice. Let's see here.

24:29 Speaker 9: And uh so we do have our guests as uh Boden,

24:33 Speaker 9: can you hear me? Yes, sir, very good, Boden Greenley?

24:37 Speaker 9: Am I saying that correctly? Boden?

24:39 Speaker 16: Yes, that's right.

24:40 Speaker 9: Okay, that's not a name I think I've ever seen before,

24:42 Speaker 9: but I like it. It's cool. Yeah, So Boden Greenley

24:46 Speaker 9: is skyping in. Now, where are you, Bowden? Where are

24:48 Speaker 9: you located?

24:49 Speaker 16: I'm in North Dakota.

24:50 Speaker 9: North Dakota. Oh, okay, Fargo. Well, well we all know

24:54 Speaker 9: about Fargo because of the movie.

24:58 Speaker 6: Yeah.

24:58 Speaker 9: But uh, so you have written a book which I read,

25:02 Speaker 9: and thank you for sending that to us. Uh person,

25:04 Speaker 9: absolutely perseverance and.

25:08 Speaker 3: Very you know.

25:08 Speaker 9: I referenced earlier when I when I mentioned that you

25:11 Speaker 9: were going to be joining us. Uh, I mentioned that,

25:13 Speaker 9: you know, pretty pretty heavy stuff. It's a heavy subject.

25:16 Speaker 9: It's it's a light read in the sense that it's

25:18 Speaker 9: not particularly long, but but it but it's not a

25:23 Speaker 9: light read in the sense that, like I said, it's

25:26 Speaker 9: it's it's pretty heavy stuff. And let me let me

25:30 Speaker 9: ask you this right up front, and we can kind

25:32 Speaker 9: of work backwards a little bit. But I want to

25:34 Speaker 9: know this and then we'll get into for our listeners

25:36 Speaker 9: what it's about and everything. But how is your mother now?

25:39 Speaker 9: Because the book is of course about the ordeal health

25:42 Speaker 9: wise that your mother has been through as we sit

25:45 Speaker 9: here today, how is she doing?

25:47 Speaker 16: Yeah, so she's she's definitely better than she was at

25:50 Speaker 16: her worst by a lot, but she's certainly not one

25:52 Speaker 16: hundred percent i'd say, somewhere in the forty realm.

25:56 Speaker 9: Oh wow, okay, which I think I think in the book.

25:59 Speaker 9: That's kind of where you left it was about. She

26:03 Speaker 9: was at about forty percent, So yes, So Boden, if

26:07 Speaker 9: we could, can you go ahead and tell us about

26:09 Speaker 9: the book and what it's about, and you know, I'm

26:13 Speaker 9: sure I'll have some questions. I read it the other night,

26:15 Speaker 9: and I'll have some questions along the way, But for

26:18 Speaker 9: our listeners to kind of get acquainted, I'd like you

26:21 Speaker 9: to kind of tell us a little bit about the

26:22 Speaker 9: book and what it is that drove you to write this.

26:27 Speaker 16: Yeah. So this was something that I'd wanted to write

26:30 Speaker 16: for a long time. It was a situation that directly

26:34 Speaker 16: involved me, and once I got a little older here,

26:38 Speaker 16: I was like, I feel like this is something that

26:41 Speaker 16: is more common than the industry makes it seem like.

26:44 Speaker 16: It is, like this is something to me, I feel

26:47 Speaker 16: everybody kind of sweeps under the rug, and I really

26:49 Speaker 16: wanted to get this story out there and make people

26:53 Speaker 16: knowledgeable on this topic. So basically, going back, so right now,

26:57 Speaker 16: I'm nineteen years old, This started when I was about

27:00 Speaker 16: twelve years old. So going back, she had a tooth

27:06 Speaker 16: issue going on and she was needed an implant and

27:11 Speaker 16: was debating on getting a ceramic or a titanium implant,

27:16 Speaker 16: and she doctors pushed her to go titanium. She decided

27:19 Speaker 16: to go titanium, got that put in there, and then

27:24 Speaker 16: probably like three months after getting it, she started getting

27:28 Speaker 16: all these terrible things going on in her body started

27:33 Speaker 16: getting really bad. She ended up getting it out like

27:37 Speaker 16: probably seven months after that, and then just from there

27:42 Speaker 16: on just kept it was really bad that next year

27:46 Speaker 16: and then got a little bit better, but then it's

27:48 Speaker 16: still been struggling with problems for a long long time.

27:52 Speaker 9: And as this is going on, did she or did

27:55 Speaker 9: anyone have any idea that it was the tooth?

27:58 Speaker 16: Yeah? Yeah, I mean it was. It was pretty much

28:01 Speaker 16: clear as day that it was the tooth. She was

28:04 Speaker 16: she was as healthy as you could possibly be. Prior

28:07 Speaker 16: to this. She was a person that was like lifting

28:11 Speaker 16: every day, ran a lot, all these things, and no

28:15 Speaker 16: just common anything was taken her down at all.

28:19 Speaker 2: Like she was.

28:19 Speaker 16: She was literally as healthy as it could be and

28:21 Speaker 16: then got this tooth and right after boom, we got

28:25 Speaker 16: we had problems galore.

28:28 Speaker 9: And this is have you been able to find other

28:31 Speaker 9: documented cases similar to this or or is this such

28:35 Speaker 9: a rare thing that that that you really can't find

28:39 Speaker 9: anything like this happening to anybody.

28:43 Speaker 16: Yeah, I actually, you know, I haven't looked into specific

28:47 Speaker 16: cases a ton, but even so, I'm from a pretty

28:49 Speaker 16: small town, and I even know a couple people close

28:54 Speaker 16: to me that had similar symptoms to my mom when

28:57 Speaker 16: getting titanium put in their body, So I know that happens.

29:00 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, it's frustrating.

29:05 Speaker 2: You know.

29:06 Speaker 9: Jenny, of course, with her her experience and what she's

29:10 Speaker 9: been through, she knows a lot about when it's difficult

29:13 Speaker 9: to get something diagnosed and you know, figuring out exactly

29:17 Speaker 9: what the problem is. You know, she has a lot

29:19 Speaker 9: of experience with that, and I'm sure there's a lot

29:22 Speaker 9: of people who can relate to that. You know, when

29:24 Speaker 9: you're dealing with something that's unusual, it's it's so much

29:29 Speaker 9: harder to get it diagnosed because you know, if it's

29:32 Speaker 9: not something common, you know, really, I mean, why would

29:35 Speaker 9: the medical community know a lot about it or be

29:38 Speaker 9: able to figure out and identify the problem and then

29:41 Speaker 9: go from there and figure out solutions if it's something

29:43 Speaker 9: that doesn't happen very often exactly so, so the titanium,

29:50 Speaker 9: it's sort of poisoned her right, it caused her, it

29:54 Speaker 9: wrecked her health in a sense.

29:55 Speaker 4: Right.

29:56 Speaker 16: Yeah, So this is one thing I want to really

29:59 Speaker 16: kind of clear here. So in my opinion, I don't

30:04 Speaker 16: believe that the titanium is a huge issue when dealing

30:08 Speaker 16: with this. The problem is titanium implants are six percent aluminum,

30:14 Speaker 16: and that's where the problem became. So they use aluminum

30:17 Speaker 16: as a filler metal. It's because aluminum per ounce is

30:22 Speaker 16: way cheaper than titanium per ounce, so they can use that.

30:25 Speaker 16: And keep in mind they're outputting two point five million

30:29 Speaker 16: implants per year, so when you're talking that scale, that

30:34 Speaker 16: money that it takes to create the implant, that really matters.

30:39 Speaker 16: So the aluminum was the issue.

30:42 Speaker 14: And if I were, oh, go ahead, Jenny Wood, No,

30:46 Speaker 14: I'm just I'm shocked. Yeah, And I never knew. I

30:49 Speaker 14: never knew that there was aluminum in the titanium implants.

30:52 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it never knew that. It's interesting that you

30:55 Speaker 9: say that because I think in the book, I think

30:57 Speaker 9: you kind of talk about that too, and that they

31:00 Speaker 9: they don't tell you that upfront, right, Like don't they

31:02 Speaker 9: kind of sell it to you as it's titanium and

31:05 Speaker 9: they just say that's what it is, and they don't

31:07 Speaker 9: tell you while it's titanium, but it's also aluminum, and it's.

31:10 Speaker 16: This and it's that, yeah exactly. And it's like maybe

31:14 Speaker 16: somewhere in the fine print of the contract that's what

31:18 Speaker 16: they say it in there. Yeah, but they definitely don't

31:20 Speaker 16: make it clear when they're telling you, that's for sure.

31:23 Speaker 16: And the thing too is, I don't know if you

31:26 Speaker 16: guys know lately, there's been a big uprising with aluminum

31:30 Speaker 16: in the deodorance that I'm.

31:33 Speaker 12: Very aware of. I'm a Brescia survivor.

31:35 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So it's like, to me, how

31:40 Speaker 16: can so now everybody's opening up to aluminum and deodorance,

31:43 Speaker 16: which is simply just putting it on topically on your skin,

31:47 Speaker 16: but then it's okay to implant it into your body.

31:50 Speaker 16: It's like, that makes no.

31:51 Speaker 12: Sense, right, that's a super valid point. Yeah, yeah, aluminum

31:57 Speaker 12: and deodorant. That's one of the things.

31:58 Speaker 14: One of the first things they told me to stop

32:00 Speaker 14: using was antiperspirant because that's the main ingredient there is

32:05 Speaker 14: the aluminum. Yep, the ordorant by itself doesn't have it.

32:09 Speaker 16: Right, right, And let me take a guess, so you said,

32:12 Speaker 16: you're a breast cancer survivor. Yep, was your breast cancer

32:16 Speaker 16: like really close to your armpit?

32:20 Speaker 14: No, actually it was closer to my back. It was

32:24 Speaker 14: in the back of my breast tissue. And there was

32:27 Speaker 14: also a pre cancerous area that had started under the areola. Okay,

32:34 Speaker 14: I kind of had it on both sides of this area.

32:37 Speaker 14: As far as thickness goes, it was way upfront and

32:39 Speaker 14: way in the back.

32:40 Speaker 9: Does make it does make you wonder though, a little bit, right,

32:43 Speaker 9: of course, of course.

32:44 Speaker 14: I mean I I can remember when I was a

32:46 Speaker 14: kid by dad going it's time for you to get theodorant.

32:49 Speaker 12: Now, you know it?

32:50 Speaker 14: Like, yeah, it was like a thing you had to

32:52 Speaker 14: start using deodorant. I mean yeah, and always used yoterant.

32:57 Speaker 14: That's like it's ingrained in your head.

32:59 Speaker 12: Right, How many of us bring it to school and reapply?

33:02 Speaker 9: I mean right?

33:05 Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah. I was reading a study the other day.

33:07 Speaker 16: I don't remember exactly what it was, but there's a

33:09 Speaker 16: big increase in breast cancer towards the or really close

33:16 Speaker 16: to the armpit because of the They're saying it's directly

33:20 Speaker 16: linked to the aluminum in the well.

33:23 Speaker 14: That's that's where the main lymph nodes start, and that's

33:28 Speaker 14: where the first two lymph nodes are that are normally

33:31 Speaker 14: and in my case, we're dissected and removed. Sure, and

33:34 Speaker 14: some people lose way more than that because they keep going.

33:37 Speaker 14: They start with those lymph nodes right in the armpit.

33:40 Speaker 14: You're one hundred percent correct, and then it goes backwards

33:43 Speaker 14: from there.

33:44 Speaker 9: Yeah. No, that's interesting.

33:45 Speaker 14: You've certainly done your resource, that's for sure. And this

33:48 Speaker 14: is good information to be sharing. Most people don't consider

33:51 Speaker 14: what's in their anti pressproot right that they're using, and

33:54 Speaker 14: that aluminum actually like blocks you and then gets into

33:57 Speaker 14: your body.

33:58 Speaker 9: Yeah, right, right, and.

34:00 Speaker 16: That's why they put it in there, because it actually

34:02 Speaker 16: clogs the gland so you don't sweat as much exactly.

34:07 Speaker 9: That makes sense. That makes sense, And nobody, nobody.

34:09 Speaker 12: Wants to sweat and be sa and you're really better

34:13 Speaker 12: off if you do sweat. Wedding is a good thing.

34:16 Speaker 12: Your body's supposed to do it for a reason.

34:18 Speaker 9: Yes, that's true. One of the things that surprised me

34:23 Speaker 9: in the book Boden was and this surprised me in

34:28 Speaker 9: a very very sad way. Is I kind of thought

34:32 Speaker 9: as I'm reading it as you're going through the story.

34:34 Speaker 9: Once they identified that the tooth was was that titanium

34:40 Speaker 9: slash aluminum tooth was what was probably the issue, and

34:44 Speaker 9: they took it out. I would have thought, I would

34:48 Speaker 9: have hoped that over time she would start to get better.

34:52 Speaker 9: And I guess she did start to get better, right,

34:54 Speaker 9: but not not enough. As you said, even today, she's

34:58 Speaker 9: still at only forty percent. Because I remember get into

35:00 Speaker 9: that part in the story and thinking, Okay, this is

35:02 Speaker 9: probably a good turning point. Right now she's now that

35:05 Speaker 9: they've taken that out, hopefully she's hopefully she's sweating it out.

35:08 Speaker 9: Hopefully you know, it's it's leaving her body. But uh,

35:12 Speaker 9: but apparently not or or maybe it has, but but

35:16 Speaker 9: the the damage is done. I don't know, I mean,

35:19 Speaker 9: what what what?

35:20 Speaker 11: Uh?

35:21 Speaker 9: What do you say about that?

35:23 Speaker 2: Yeah?

35:24 Speaker 16: It really is remarkable to me, and I truly don't

35:27 Speaker 16: understand it. We I don't know. I think she might

35:31 Speaker 16: go in here and see we were thinking there might

35:35 Speaker 16: still be fragments of something in her body, because that's

35:39 Speaker 16: what I'm thinking. There's absolutely no way something takes this

35:44 Speaker 16: long to heal, and I just think her body is

35:48 Speaker 16: whatever is in her body, she just cannot defend it. So, yeah,

35:54 Speaker 16: it's it truly is remarkable. And if there isn't anything else,

35:57 Speaker 16: I don't know. She just yeah, her body just fighting

36:01 Speaker 16: it off is impossible. It's crazy.

36:04 Speaker 14: I'm wondering what got put into her bloodstream, into her body,

36:08 Speaker 14: because this is really hitting home for me because of

36:10 Speaker 14: the tomocks Fin toxicity that I have.

36:13 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm Tomock's beIN toxic. My body can't get rid

36:16 Speaker 12: of it.

36:16 Speaker 14: It implanted itself everywhere and I'll always be Tomock's Fin toxic.

36:21 Speaker 12: There's no way to clear it out of my body.

36:23 Speaker 14: So and it has had significant effects to my eyes

36:27 Speaker 14: and my ears. I mean my right eye has a

36:29 Speaker 14: hole in it because of it. But I'm like relating

36:32 Speaker 14: to your mom's story so much because I'm thinking, yeah,

36:35 Speaker 14: she had this in her body, and your mouth is

36:39 Speaker 14: actually super super for us, right. This is in fact,

36:43 Speaker 14: it's one of the fastest ways to give you a

36:45 Speaker 14: medication is under your tongue. That is literally one of

36:48 Speaker 14: the fastest ways. So you have to remember that it's

36:50 Speaker 14: also one of the quickest ways to get sick because

36:53 Speaker 14: it's oftentimes people will get a tooth infection. Those untreated

36:57 Speaker 14: gets into the blood system, and now you can actually

37:00 Speaker 14: die from it. I mean I've seen I have seen

37:02 Speaker 14: people in the intensive care unit with something that started

37:06 Speaker 14: in their mouth. So that's one hundred percent true. So

37:09 Speaker 14: it makes me think that that aluminum that was in

37:11 Speaker 14: her mouth for however long, that there's some kind of

37:14 Speaker 14: like chemical or whatever that got into her bloodstream because

37:18 Speaker 14: of that and is just simply she's got it and

37:23 Speaker 14: it maybe it's just not you know, there's no there

37:26 Speaker 14: may be no way to completely cleanse her of it,

37:29 Speaker 14: as there is no way to completely cleanse me of tomoxyfin.

37:33 Speaker 14: I'm always going to have deposits in various parts of

37:35 Speaker 14: my body of it. Yeah, I wonder if that's what

37:38 Speaker 14: it is.

37:38 Speaker 2: You know.

37:38 Speaker 12: I just feel so identify with with your mom so

37:42 Speaker 12: much because of that.

37:43 Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, what inspired you to write the book, Boden?

37:50 Speaker 16: Yeah?

37:51 Speaker 6: I so.

37:51 Speaker 16: My main reason is I want to get this information

37:55 Speaker 16: out there. I you know, I come back to do

37:58 Speaker 16: I think titanium is the worst thing in the world. No,

38:02 Speaker 16: but if we're gonna be still doing these things, it

38:05 Speaker 16: needs to be one hundred percent titanium or I believe

38:09 Speaker 16: that ceramic or zirconia implants are much superior. That's what

38:15 Speaker 16: the holistic dentists are preaching now. But I just want

38:18 Speaker 16: people to be aware that when they put these things

38:20 Speaker 16: in their body, that there's a even if it's a

38:23 Speaker 16: really small chance, that it completely ruins your life. And

38:26 Speaker 16: I think that that is gonna make you think twice

38:29 Speaker 16: before getting it.

38:31 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I assume too, you're only nineteen, right, so

38:33 Speaker 9: I assume your mom is pretty young, and she's got

38:37 Speaker 9: a lot ahead of her.

38:38 Speaker 16: So, yeah, she's forty eight.

38:39 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's got to be. And you

38:42 Speaker 9: talk too in the book about how prior to all

38:44 Speaker 9: this happening, she was very healthy, very fit, and uh

38:49 Speaker 9: not someone who I mean, it's got to be. Obviously

38:52 Speaker 9: it would be difficult for anybody to go through this,

38:54 Speaker 9: but I would imagine it's especially difficult for someone like

38:57 Speaker 9: her who's used to being so active.

39:00 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it, it is terrible. I mean none,

39:04 Speaker 16: nothing short of terrible. She she's super fit person, she

39:07 Speaker 16: was a dietitian, physical trainer all that, so that was

39:11 Speaker 16: like her big thing and it's been really difficults hard.

39:15 Speaker 9: There's a point in the book too that that I

39:18 Speaker 9: found particularly heartbreaking. When she was she she was at

39:23 Speaker 9: a point where she was starting to feel better, significantly better,

39:26 Speaker 9: and it seemed like it was a really good turning point,

39:29 Speaker 9: and she kind of maybe she pushed herself a little

39:31 Speaker 9: too hard or something, but she was out somewhere, I

39:34 Speaker 9: think maybe with one of your siblings, if I remember correctly, Yes,

39:38 Speaker 9: and she was really she was having a good day

39:40 Speaker 9: and it was going well, and she's feeling good, and

39:42 Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, she just started feeling terrible again,

39:46 Speaker 9: and it was just this enormous setback, and I think

39:50 Speaker 9: she fell, if I remember correctly.

39:52 Speaker 16: Yeah, So so there was there was kind of two

39:55 Speaker 16: so you're referring to when she took my little brother

39:59 Speaker 16: to the zoo, and actually, oh, it wasn't It wasn't

40:03 Speaker 16: anything super crazy. She just she literally just walked too much.

40:08 Speaker 16: That's what she says. She she walked too much that

40:10 Speaker 16: day and she felt like a big just drop. She

40:16 Speaker 16: calls it poison in her body because that's it feels

40:19 Speaker 16: like tingling all over and she felt it drop into

40:22 Speaker 16: her legs and she said she knew she was in

40:24 Speaker 16: trouble when that happened.

40:26 Speaker 9: Oh god.

40:27 Speaker 5: Yeah.

40:28 Speaker 9: And then it was after that it was kind of

40:30 Speaker 9: back to square one, right.

40:32 Speaker 6: Yeah.

40:32 Speaker 16: Yeah, so she had up to that point, she had

40:35 Speaker 16: gotten that was the best she'd been before that day.

40:38 Speaker 16: She was probably up to a good sixty percent and

40:42 Speaker 16: then yeah, that happened, and been struggling more with the

40:45 Speaker 16: lower body.

40:46 Speaker 9: Now, wow, that's horrible.

40:49 Speaker 14: It sounds like CPS. Yeah, yeah, because that's what happened

40:52 Speaker 14: with me. Everything was upper body and then it dropped

40:54 Speaker 14: into my legs.

40:55 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so crazy.

40:57 Speaker 14: I'm so sorry your almost had to struggle through these.

41:00 Speaker 14: I commend you for what you're doing. It's so important

41:02 Speaker 14: to get this, to get information out there so people

41:05 Speaker 14: are informed and can make informed choices.

41:08 Speaker 16: Absolutely.

41:10 Speaker 9: How does she feel about the book?

41:14 Speaker 16: You know, so kind of funny here right away. So

41:17 Speaker 16: I didn't tell her that I wrote it until it

41:20 Speaker 16: was already done, because I knew that she was kind

41:23 Speaker 16: of a stubborn person and is kind of embarrassed about

41:26 Speaker 16: the whole situation and probably did not want to be

41:30 Speaker 16: a main focal talking point. But then once I brought

41:33 Speaker 16: it to her, she was really happy and we had

41:36 Speaker 16: a good moment about it, and I told her that

41:37 Speaker 16: this is a message that needs to get out there,

41:39 Speaker 16: and it sucks that you're kind of the talking point,

41:42 Speaker 16: but it has to get out there. I just don't

41:45 Speaker 16: want to see this happen to a lot of people.

41:47 Speaker 9: So has this kind of spurred her to do any

41:51 Speaker 9: other like does she do any interviews or any kind

41:54 Speaker 9: of media about this or is it just just your

41:58 Speaker 9: book for now that you've written.

42:00 Speaker 16: Mainly just my book for now? Yeah, she's not. She

42:04 Speaker 16: just doesn't really like that kind of thing talking about it.

42:07 Speaker 16: You know, she's she's just a super She's a stubborn person.

42:10 Speaker 16: She's tough nosed, and she's yeah, like I said, kind

42:13 Speaker 16: of embarrassed about it. So I'll be the guy to

42:16 Speaker 16: talk about it absolutely.

42:17 Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you know, to be able

42:19 Speaker 9: to do this and even survive, you know, you've got

42:22 Speaker 9: to be tough, right, So so yeah, someone someone not

42:25 Speaker 9: with the fortitude that she obviously has, you know, would

42:29 Speaker 9: have thrown in the towel by now. But she's obviously

42:31 Speaker 9: a very strong person to be able to continue to

42:34 Speaker 9: deal with this every day and continue to function and

42:36 Speaker 9: live and Wow, And have you written other things prior

42:42 Speaker 9: to this or is this your first book.

42:44 Speaker 16: Or have you read that this was my first book?

42:46 Speaker 9: Wow? Good for you good for you. No, it's excellent.

42:50 Speaker 9: Did you have an editor or did you do everything yourself?

42:53 Speaker 16: Or yeah? I had a I had an editor, and

42:56 Speaker 16: then I had a guy who helped me with the cover.

42:58 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, No, it's very good. I encourage

43:02 Speaker 9: people to read it.

43:03 Speaker 5: Oh.

43:04 Speaker 9: I'm also curious because I don't think you addressed this

43:07 Speaker 9: specifically in the book, but in terms of so they

43:10 Speaker 9: removed the titanium, you know, and partially aluminum tooth. Did

43:15 Speaker 9: they replace it with something or does she just not

43:17 Speaker 9: have a tooth there now or what happened there?

43:20 Speaker 16: Yeah, she's just empty there.

43:22 Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, yes, sir, I didn't know if I didn't

43:26 Speaker 9: know if there was a danger in not putting something

43:28 Speaker 9: else there or I mean, I guess at the moment,

43:33 Speaker 9: it probably doesn't much matter because what she's already dealing

43:36 Speaker 9: with is so difficult that.

43:38 Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. It was like at the time when they

43:40 Speaker 16: were taking it out, you know, they probably would have

43:43 Speaker 16: wanted to put something back over top, but she was

43:45 Speaker 16: just like, I feel so bad right now, just get

43:48 Speaker 16: it out and we'll deal with it after.

43:50 Speaker 9: That makes sense, though, I can definitely understand that. I

43:53 Speaker 9: can understand that is there any is there any kind

43:59 Speaker 9: of hope?

44:00 Speaker 14: What have you?

44:01 Speaker 9: And and she and your family been able to find

44:04 Speaker 9: anything that any sort of alternative treatment or anything that

44:08 Speaker 9: that might help her or she just kind of kind

44:10 Speaker 9: of stuck at forty percent. And that's that's kind of

44:14 Speaker 9: it for the moment.

44:15 Speaker 16: Yeah, I've I've been really reaching out to a lot

44:18 Speaker 16: of people I've found in the more alley of holistic dentistry,

44:24 Speaker 16: which is more like natural practice dentistry, and there's some

44:28 Speaker 16: there's potentially some heavy metal detox We're going to look

44:32 Speaker 16: into down the road here that I want to get into.

44:36 Speaker 16: But she's actually going in I believe next week sometime

44:40 Speaker 16: to get a scan of her head to make sure

44:44 Speaker 16: there's no leftover fragments.

44:47 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, excellent, and then if U of course, and

44:51 Speaker 9: that's that'll be If they find something, that's half the

44:55 Speaker 9: battle I guess right locating, but then they have to

44:57 Speaker 9: figure out how to get it out.

44:59 Speaker 16: Right, so which then that will be difficult. But if

45:02 Speaker 16: they find something, we'll get it done.

45:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, and at least too then you'll know. Then you'll

45:06 Speaker 9: have an answer, you know, is that is that?

45:09 Speaker 13: What it is?

45:11 Speaker 9: Is there any kind of a theory about why, because,

45:14 Speaker 9: like I said, that, there's that point where she started

45:16 Speaker 9: feeling significantly better. I mean, I assume you've probably all

45:22 Speaker 9: been over this a million times, but has have have

45:25 Speaker 9: you and she and your family tried to figure out

45:28 Speaker 9: what it was during that period that was different that

45:31 Speaker 9: helped her to feel so much better before she she

45:34 Speaker 9: had that setback and all of that.

45:37 Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I I really don't know. It's such

45:40 Speaker 16: a it's such an interesting thing to me. It's like,

45:43 Speaker 16: like you stated earlier, it's like when when once we

45:46 Speaker 16: got it removed, you're thinking, all right, we're probably getting

45:49 Speaker 16: better here, you know, eventually at least.

45:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was.

45:53 Speaker 16: She was getting so much better, and I'm thinking, oh, yes,

45:56 Speaker 16: I'm fine, my mom's finally going to be all the

45:58 Speaker 16: way better. And then it was just like one day

46:01 Speaker 16: she walks too much, Like what the f. You know,

46:04 Speaker 16: there's there's no way. I mean, she she was as

46:07 Speaker 16: fit as somebody could be, so to her even walking

46:10 Speaker 16: a lot that was like exerting twenty percent, you know,

46:14 Speaker 16: So there's there's just no and I yeah, I really

46:17 Speaker 16: don't understand. But yeah, to answer your question, I don't

46:21 Speaker 16: really know what it was exactly.

46:23 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and it must be so hard to And

46:27 Speaker 9: you do talk about this quite a bit in the book.

46:30 Speaker 9: You know, you get very personal about the challenges for

46:33 Speaker 9: your family. You know, obviously she's going through this terrible thing,

46:36 Speaker 9: but it but it affects all of you. You know,

46:39 Speaker 9: it affects your dad and your siblings and how hard

46:42 Speaker 9: that is and how you know and and when you're

46:45 Speaker 9: a kid, you know, I mean, it's probably although adults,

46:48 Speaker 9: it's it's a challenge for anybody right of any age,

46:51 Speaker 9: but especially when you're growing up. And you know when

46:54 Speaker 9: you're this started when you were twelve, right, you said

46:56 Speaker 9: you were twelve when this whole thing started, Yes, sir,

46:59 Speaker 9: like you don't know it that age? How to how

47:01 Speaker 9: to handle all of this emotionally and to see your

47:04 Speaker 9: mother going through this and your sibling. Are you the

47:07 Speaker 9: oldest of uh? Are you the oldest of three?

47:10 Speaker 3: Is that?

47:11 Speaker 10: Yes?

47:11 Speaker 16: I am the oldest. And then I got right in

47:13 Speaker 16: so right now I'm nineteen. I have a middle brother

47:16 Speaker 16: who's sixteen, and then I have a youngest brother who's ten.

47:20 Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah, I mean your ten year old brothers.

47:22 Speaker 9: You know, for him, it's got to be very very hard.

47:25 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, oh absolutely.

47:27 Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, it was really hard. And I talked about

47:31 Speaker 16: this a little bit. I did a bad job as well.

47:33 Speaker 16: You know, I was I was so young, and I

47:36 Speaker 16: kind of just got caught up in my own little

47:38 Speaker 16: world and I almost I talked about a little bit.

47:41 Speaker 16: I almost got annoyed. You know, it's say, why am

47:45 Speaker 16: why is this? This just isn't fair to me selfishly

47:49 Speaker 16: thinking why is my mom like this? This is ridiculous.

47:52 Speaker 16: But then it's like later on it's like, oh man,

47:55 Speaker 16: I was terrible.

47:56 Speaker 2: You know.

47:57 Speaker 12: Now, don't do that to yourself. Yeah, to yourself. You're

48:01 Speaker 12: you're you're young, You're you know, you're a kid.

48:05 Speaker 14: Your brain is wired a particular way, and it's not

48:07 Speaker 14: a bad thing about you that in that moment you

48:10 Speaker 14: weren't able to view the entire the entirety of what

48:14 Speaker 14: was going on. I mean, that's just a process of

48:17 Speaker 14: getting older. You can't fault yourself for being a kid

48:21 Speaker 14: and not seeing a full view because you just didn't

48:23 Speaker 14: get there yet. You know, now you do, look at

48:25 Speaker 14: everything you're doing. You're doing incredible things. You didn't just

48:28 Speaker 14: come around. You came around to become a champion, to

48:32 Speaker 14: make sure that other people are forewarned. And that's absolutely remarkable.

48:38 Speaker 16: Yeah, I appreciate that.

48:40 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's you know, it's good to

48:42 Speaker 9: reflect on.

48:44 Speaker 11: This.

48:45 Speaker 9: There's such a thin line between you know, kind of

48:48 Speaker 9: reflecting and analyzing, a thin line between that and ruminating

48:52 Speaker 9: on the past and beating yourself up and whatnot. But

48:55 Speaker 9: I but I think, you know, it's good to reflect

48:57 Speaker 9: on on what you maybe could have done differently so

49:03 Speaker 9: that you're able to be supportive going forward. But again,

49:06 Speaker 9: like Jenny, like Jenny said, I mean, when you're a kid,

49:08 Speaker 9: you know, you're you're still trying to mature and and

49:12 Speaker 9: uh and grow emotionally, and you know, to feel some

49:17 Speaker 9: sort of resentment or frustration along the way or well

49:19 Speaker 9: you know that's perfectly normal. That's normal for adults too,

49:22 Speaker 9: but but especially when you're a kid, it's like, you know,

49:25 Speaker 9: you got a you really got got your family, your

49:29 Speaker 9: mom especially, but your family really got dealta that bad hand,

49:32 Speaker 9: uh with this uh, this whole situation. So you did

49:35 Speaker 9: the best you could and and and the great thing

49:38 Speaker 9: about writing this book is, you know, hopefully this is

49:40 Speaker 9: going to help other people. Like you said, you want

49:42 Speaker 9: to raise awareness about this and kind of warn people

49:45 Speaker 9: about what they might be getting into. And uh, you know,

49:49 Speaker 9: make sure too that you're you know, if somebody wants

49:51 Speaker 9: to put titanium in, you read the fine print, make

49:54 Speaker 9: sure you know is ask your doctor, ask the surgeon.

49:58 Speaker 9: Is there anything else other than titanium. I'm trying to

50:01 Speaker 9: think of what else do they use titanium for it?

50:03 Speaker 9: I'm not sure hip replacements, right, I think hip replacements are.

50:07 Speaker 14: Everything pretty much is because it doesn't set up a

50:09 Speaker 14: metal detector, and it's it's it's a rather good material.

50:13 Speaker 2: You know.

50:14 Speaker 12: I mean everybody, you know, you need to be informed.

50:16 Speaker 14: Maybe there's things you look out for, you know, maybe

50:20 Speaker 14: maybe there's some kind of allergy involved with aluminium that

50:24 Speaker 14: triggers in some people and not others.

50:26 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know, you don't.

50:27 Speaker 14: I'm good a titanium knee and it went remarkably well. Yeah,

50:31 Speaker 14: So there's there's the good, and you know, there's good

50:33 Speaker 14: and bad in anything. So really just being fully informed

50:36 Speaker 14: and then making informed choices, you know, or maybe you know,

50:39 Speaker 14: maybe you get tested for heavy metal or whatever.

50:42 Speaker 12: I don't know what the exact answer is to it, you.

50:44 Speaker 9: Know, yeah, yeah, does doesn't sound like anyone does.

50:49 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of tough because,

50:52 Speaker 16: like you said, and I kind of say this a

50:53 Speaker 16: little bit too, It's like most people are probably gonna

50:56 Speaker 16: get it and be just fine. But in my opinion,

51:00 Speaker 16: I think if something like this is even a potential,

51:04 Speaker 16: I just don't find myself taking that risk. And I

51:07 Speaker 16: think as time goes on, we're going to start to

51:10 Speaker 16: see alternatives that are safer or at least, like I said,

51:15 Speaker 16: I would like to see everything be all one hundred

51:19 Speaker 16: percent titanium. I would be more okay with that even.

51:22 Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now that you've written this book, do

51:27 Speaker 9: you have plans to write another one, or are you

51:30 Speaker 9: going to continue writing or maybe maybe write about other

51:33 Speaker 9: things or what's kind of your trajectory in terms of writing.

51:37 Speaker 16: Yeah, so I never thought I would do anything even

51:41 Speaker 16: close to this. It's funny because when I was probably

51:45 Speaker 16: mid teens, I said how much I hated reading, and

51:48 Speaker 16: then now I'm just I'm just a reading freak. I

51:51 Speaker 16: love reading and I love writing too. So yeah, but

51:54 Speaker 16: as for writing more, my hope, my hope is that

51:57 Speaker 16: we find an answer with my mom, we get her detox,

52:00 Speaker 16: and I want to write about that. That is my

52:02 Speaker 16: that is my end goal.

52:03 Speaker 9: Oh and that would be wonderful. That would be a

52:05 Speaker 9: wonderful book to write, wouldn't it.

52:07 Speaker 16: Yes, that would be That would be awesome.

52:10 Speaker 9: I would love to read that. So yeah, so hopefully,

52:13 Speaker 9: hopefully that happens. Boden Greenley, thank you so much. Before

52:19 Speaker 9: we let you go, too, I want to make sure

52:20 Speaker 9: everyone knows where to get your book. Of course, it

52:22 Speaker 9: is called Perseverance. And what do people need to know

52:25 Speaker 9: about how to get it?

52:27 Speaker 16: Yeah? So right now it's available on Amazon.

52:30 Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, well that's easy. Yeah, that's easy. And we

52:35 Speaker 9: should tell people to tell people how to because Boden

52:38 Speaker 9: is not a name you here every day? How do

52:40 Speaker 9: people spell that when they're looking for you?

52:43 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's b O E d N. And then Greenley

52:46 Speaker 16: is green l E y.

52:49 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, well listen, thank you so much for joining

52:52 Speaker 9: us today. Like I said, I it's an excellent book.

52:57 Speaker 9: I I want to say I enjoyed reading, but enjoy

53:00 Speaker 9: isn't quite the right word, because, like I said, it's

53:02 Speaker 9: such a it's such an unhappy subject. But yeah, but

53:04 Speaker 9: I'm really glad, I'm really glad that you sent it

53:06 Speaker 9: to us and that we were able to do this

53:08 Speaker 9: today and and help uh absolutely, you know, if even

53:11 Speaker 9: if we help one person or or prevent possibly one

53:15 Speaker 9: person from making a mistake, that's that's a good thing.

53:19 Speaker 9: So I'm really glad you were able to do join

53:21 Speaker 9: us and and even you know, even if it's a

53:24 Speaker 9: while before you have written anything else, if you have

53:28 Speaker 9: any kind of a big update on your mom in

53:30 Speaker 9: the future, we'd love to have you back. This is

53:32 Speaker 9: something that we want to continue to pay attention to

53:35 Speaker 9: and and support you and your family and in any

53:37 Speaker 9: way that we can. So so let's uh, let's definitely

53:40 Speaker 9: stay in touch. Boden.

53:42 Speaker 16: Absolutely great, all right, very.

53:45 Speaker 9: Good Boden Greenley, thank you so much, and we'll we'll

53:48 Speaker 9: talk to you again in the future, I'm sure.

53:50 Speaker 16: Yeah, thank you guys, appreciate it.

53:51 Speaker 9: You got it, all right, Bye bye bye bye. All right.

53:55 Speaker 9: So that was Boden Greenley, and he is the author

53:57 Speaker 9: of Perseverance, which you can find it, uh and on

54:00 Speaker 9: dot com. And yeah, like I said, it's a it's

54:04 Speaker 9: a good read, but a very it's a very difficult subject.

54:08 Speaker 12: Medicine always is.

54:09 Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely I'm gonna play something from our out I'm

54:14 Speaker 9: gonna play something from our our number two guest, uh

54:17 Speaker 9: Silicon Kong and uh. This is not one of the

54:20 Speaker 9: tracks that he sent me, but it's one that I

54:21 Speaker 9: particularly like. So we're gonna play this, but then Silicon

54:24 Speaker 9: Kong uh will be with us in the second hour.

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