Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-28-23

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six zo three two five zero six zero seven. We have a great musical

guest coming up at the top of the hour. The band ever Felt is

going to be skyping in from Illinois. I really like them a lot,

really like their sound. They've got a big kind of They describe themselves on

their website as sort of psychedelic rock, but to me it's it almost sounds

like doom metal. I really like it. They got a big, big

sound. Really looking forward to talking to them, So I don't know if

it's I don't know if it's gonna be the one guy or if it's gonna

be more than one or well, we'll see what happens when they skype in

at five, and you know, as we get close to the top of

the hour, we'll play some of their music both before and after the segment.

But yeah, I really like them a lot, so that's gonna be

good. And we did open the show today with Martin Luther King's I have

a dream speech which I usually play every year to commemorate his birthday, but

I thought, you know, today is actually the because it is the sixtieth

anniversary of the March on Washington. I thought I should play that today too.

That's where the speech happened. Of course they celebrated it over the weekend,

but the actual day is today, the actual anniversary, August twenty eight.

So so I thought i'd share that with everybody. Always, uh,

always a good good opener actually for the show. So especially jeez, you

know, in light of what happened in Jacksonville. Yeah, and I hate

talking about that stuff, but we might we might get into that a little

bit today. But I always whenever there's a shooting, I just I hate,

I hate even talking about it. It's uh, it's such a downer.

But yeah, so uh so you can't ignore what was going on in

North Carolina either. Oh yeah, it's just yeah, that's still an active

situation, right, you know, I'm trying to check it out. There

was a report of shots fire, but I thought they lifted the lockdown.

Oh I may be wrong about that. Actually I am wrong about that.

According to this Atlanta station, they are still on lockdown. It started at

about one o'clock this afternoon. The students and staff were warned that there was

an armed and dangerous person on campus. They were locked down on campus,

and we're reporting an active assailent situation. I know on the way in we

heard or I might have you might have been in the store when I was

listening that there was a shot fire, a report of a single shot fire,

but nothing beyond that. It's still way too fluid for me to like

really give you an appropriate answer. Yeah, because it's looking at this report,

it looks like it's still fluid. They are looking for that person that

does seem to be absolutely still going on. There is an image up.

You can go look it up. You can look at the person that they

are looking for. Okay, So yeah, but then we've got three people

who lost our lives today because of the color of their skin. Well that

was that was yesterday, right, Yes, sorry, that's okay. It's

blending on me and that's awful, like in a bad way, in a

bad way, not in a good way. Yeah, you know that these

things happened that this and apparently this guy was was a total white supremise.

Yeah, left a left notes. He had had a whole manifest though.

Yeah, he was decided that he deserved to take people out of this world,

and then he took out of himself. Could they just you know,

I hate I don't want to say it. It's a horrible thing to say,

but it is. It's like, you know, if you feel that

way, can you just stick to yourself and and not hurt innocent people?

Yeah, it's awful, it is. Well, we didn't have to deal

with this stuff when we were kids. Well, you know what happened,

but not nearly as much, not nearly as often. We should look at

us to be a little more uplifting. Of course. This is the article

from NPR regarding over the weekend, thousands marched to mark sixtieth anniversary of mlk's

I Have a Dreams speech. It says here, six decades ago and estimated

quarter million people gathered at the Lincoln Memorial for the March on Washington for Jobs

and Freedom. That was the full name of the event in the nation's capital.

Martin Luther King Juniors, I have a Dream speech that day on August

twenty eight, nineteen sixty three, sixty years ago. Today has since emerged

as a paramount symbol of the push for racial and social equality. On Saturday,

tens of thousands of people gathered in that same spot to declare that dream

was in jeopardy, that America had slid backwards in its fight against hatred and

bigotry. Civil rights activist Reverend Al Sharpton said, quote, six years ago,

Martin Luther King talked about a dream. Sixty years later, we're the

dreamers, unquote, Sharpton, who leads the National Action Network, said,

one of the two groups that organized the rally, the nonprofit Drum Major Institute,

co host of the event, which was billed as a as not a

commemoration, but a continuation of King's vision after a year of Supreme Court rulings

and national legislation that rolled back racial progress. The five hour program featured dozens

of high profile speakers who noted the prevalence of civil rights abuses such as systemic

racism, hate speech, hate crimes, police brutality, gun violence, poverty,

the loss of voting rights, and the collapse of reproductive rights, to

name just a few topics that surfaced. Andrew Waters King, the daughter in

law of Martin Luther King, Jr. One of a number of his family

members who spoke at the event, said quote, we are here to liberate

the soul of the nation, the soul of democracy from those forces who would

have us all go backwards and perish rather than go forward as sisters and brothers.

Un People carried Black Lives Matter banners and wore I Have A Dream t

shirts as they listen to the speeches and march to Kings Memorial Statue. Many

took refuge in the shade of trees along the Lincoln Memorial as temperatures soared into

the upper eighties. Despite the crowds, rugby games went along as planned across

them all, while joggers and bikers stuck to their roots. According to a

report from the AP, the sound of planes taken off from nearby Ronald Reagan

National Airport thundered over some of the speakers, and while the crowd size may

have been smaller than the quarter million people who turned out in nineteen sixty three,

Saturday's event boasted some undeniable signs of progress. Many of the speakers who

took the podium were women. Only one female speaker was featured at the original

march. I didn't realize that. I hadn't thought of that. And just

as this year's lineup of speakers was more diverse, so too were the issues

they spotlighted. Actor Sasha Baron Cohen called for an end to anti semitism.

Parkland school shooting survivor David Hogg called for younger generations to run for office in

response to gun violence. Democratic members of Congress, including South Carolina Representative James

Clyburne and New York Representative Hakim Jefferies, called for federal voting rights protections as

some states continue to restrict election rules. Kings nineteen sixty nineteen sixty three speech

is credited with helping pave the way for major federal voting rights legislation, as

well as the landmark nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, but pushback and violence

followed two Just two weeks after the gathering, four black children were killed in

the sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama. A year later,

voting rights marchers were brutally beaten while crossing the Edmund Pettis Bridge in nearby Selma.

Commemorations of the original nineteen sixty three gathering have taken place over the decades,

and King's speech continues to resonate, both serving as major symbols of America's

push and pulled toward justice. Tens of thousands of people marched in DC following

the police killing of George Floyd in twenty twenty, as millions across the country

took part in aiual justice protests and rallies. For some, Saturday's event was

yet another poignant measure of how much work has yet to be done. Marcia

Dean Felts of Amelia Island, Florida told The APE quote, I often look

back and look over to the reflection pool in the Washington Monument, and I

see a quarter of a million people sixty years ago and just a trickling now.

It was more fired up then, But the things we were asking for

and needing, we still need them today. Several leaders also helped organize the

march met with Attorney General Merrick Garland and Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clark on Friday.

They discussed a range of issues, including policing, redlining, and voting

rights. President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris will observe the marches true

anniversary on Monday today by meeting with organizers of the nineteen sixty three gathering.

The APE reported, I did see a little bit of that footage earlier,

yeah, and It was interesting that one of the first things that President Biden

spoke of was he never imagined sitting here talking about this in this day and

age, on this historic date and we're talking about book bands. Yeah,

oh yeah, he's specifically. You know, seriously, we we came so

far as a society, and it's like we're hurling ourselves back in time.

We're banning books. Well, I'm banning history because they were banning history.

Well yeah, that's a way of putting it. Certainly. You know,

I'm more optimistic on this, uh, you know, as as we've discussed

before. But you know, I always say, you know, two things

can be true. We have I believe we have come a long way,

but we clearly still have a lot of work to do. And what happened

in Jacksonville over the weekend, for example, is a clear and present evidence

of the work that we still have to do. We continue to have to

confront hate because hate is by nature malignant, and I is that word very

deliberately, because it does spread if you leave it unchecked, which a lot

of people don't seem to understand or don't want to acknowledge. They think,

if you you know, some people think if you just say nope, nope,

problems already been solved. Then you know, just just it's not legal

anymore. Just yeah, just pretend it's not there, and it's not really

there. No, we still have a lot of work to do, but

but we also have come a long way, obviously, you know, from

you know, if you take into account, you know, the civil rights

movement and the progress it was made in terms of desegregating schools, and you

know that it's hard to imagine, but before we were you or I were

even born, you know, they had segregated schools and separate water fountains,

and you know, just you know, there's a lot in the nineteen sixties

that was ag that is legal now, right, right, And so I

always say to people because it's such a polarizing thing, and of course we

live in this. We live in a political culture where everything is so binary

and you're supposed to be all the way on one side of an issue,

are all the way on the other. So when it comes to this,

for example, you're people have a natural expectation that you're either supposed to believe

that we live in this you know that America is this uh racist and racialized

hellscape and we've made no progress or you're supposed to believe that. Nope,

all set racism has been solved, and anything that you say about it now,

you're just making that up to stoke the to restoke the fires of racism,

you know. And and uh, you're you're giving the argument for me

and not your position. And neither of those well, neither of those uh

positions in my uh, in my opinion is true. And as I say,

two things can be true at once. I think we should recognize the

incredible progress that we have made in this country, and it's one of the

things that I love about this country. I consider myself a patriot. I

know some people would disagree with me because I'm not a Trump supporter, but

but I do consider myself a patriot. And uh and also uh, you

know, so I think we should. I think we should reflect on and

acknowledge the incredible progress that we've made as a country, while also acknowledging that

clearly we do still have a long way to go. And again, anyone

who wants to argue with me about that, I would refer you to what

happened over the weekend in Jacksonville. You know when you've got this, you

know he had a racist manifestoe. You know, he originally went to a

college, a black college. He was spotted by students who immediately went to

security. He got spooked, he ran off, and that's how we ended

up in the dollar store. Is my understanding. Now. Granted that's just

a cursory knowledge that I've gotten out of the news media. But I thought

it was also telling that when they held a visual a vidual for the people

who were killed tone deaf, the Santists showed up and the people booed him

down and we're yelling at him, you're not welcome here, and we're booing

him down, when he was trying to use it as a a way for

him to tout him politically. That's all he was. Therefore, come on,

the only reason he went there is it's a free microphone and a camera.

I'm gonna get some I'm gonna get on this and get some attention.

I don't believe that he really cares about black people at all when he is

pushing an agenda that in part dehumanizes people who are black. Because there's this

whole thing of they learned skills from from slavery. Come on, like the

whole forgetting about these were human beings that that had a world they lived in

and they took care of their families, and they cooked, and they had

lives, and they were stolen, they were kidnapped and brutally tortured into slavery.

But he tries to sugarcoat it with this were you know, his banning

books, his we're going to teach that black people got skills from slaves.

Well he in fairness and listen, I'm no fan of the guy there,

but in fairness we we do we do need to say technically he's actually been

running away from that. Well he's not responsible. He's not directly responsible.

Now, oh come on, wait, no, the law, the law

that they passed, well, no, this is an important detail though,

the law that they passed in Florida about you know, teaching the benefits of

slavery and you know, making it sound like a job. I mean,

you know how I feel about that too. I agree with you, but

it's it's and a lot of Republicans have spoken out about that too, because

I know some people want to say, oh, it's the left that's upset

about this. No, a lot of Conservatives have spoken up about this too

and have said it's wrong, but that that wasn't DeSantis directly that specific law

that was the Florida State legislature. I do agree, however, though,

with what Chris Chris he said that DeSantis is the one who lit the fuse

on that, because he's the one, you know, with the what do

they call it, the Stop Woke Act in Florida. So DeSantis kind of

DeSantis started that, he was the catalyst for what follows, what follows from

that. But well, I would argue in this case, DeSantis lit the

fire, but then the Florida State Legislature poured gasoline on it. But so,

but I just again, I'm not trying to defend a Santis but but

he well, no, but it's not an opinion, it's a fact that

he's not the one who created that law that was created that was the Florida

State legislator. Say I didn't that he created it. He's touting it.

No, No, no, he's not that that law specifically, He's not

things that have been going on until now, he's been running he's running away

from right that that particular law. He's been running away from it. He

Uh, he won't. He won't speak against it, but he doesn't want

to. He doesn't want to take the blame for it either. He's been

uh which as again blimy politicians, and it fits himself into whatever piece he

thinks he can well. But in the end of the day, he supports

this crap because if he didn't, he'd be outspoken about it. Right,

A real governor, a real governor who gives you know, two cents about

the students in his estate, would speak out and say that's not okay,

we shouldn't ban the diary of Anne Frayne. But that's not what he's done.

I disagree the thing. One thing though, that I do disagree with

you on. I think he should have because it sounds like you're saying he

shouldn't have shown up at that event and spoken. I disagree. I well,

no, I don't think he should have. I don't think he should

have. And it certainly wasn't what the families or the people there wanted because

he got shouted down, he got told to leave. Yeah, he could

have done his peace, He could have said his peace from anywhere. He

did not have to show up there and take that podium. He made it

about him, and it's not about him. It's about those people. So

I stick to my guns on that one. That he absolutely should not have

shown up there. I don't know he didn't. He did more harm than

he did good by showing up. That's that's complicated though, because he is

the governor of the state. Well, I don't know if you saw this,

but now this is from media. Democratic Jacksonville congress I'm sorry not congresswoman.

Councilwoman who defended De Santis at shooting vigil says she wasn't says he wasn't

invited, but the crowd shouldn't have booed. This is it says here.

When Florida Governor Ron de Santis appeared at a vigil for the victims and community

of the racially motivated mass shooting in Jacksonville, he was not well received.

He was audibly booed by the crowd until Democratic Councilwoman Jacoby Pittman stood up for

him, telling everyone, quote, it ain't about parties today, unquote.

On Monday, Pittman gave CNN more details about DeSantis' appearance and revealed that the

governor wasn't actually invited. Speaking of CNN's Boris Sanchez, Pittman explained, actually,

there's well, no, there's audio here, but it's it's of the

full segment. I just want this part. Pittman explained that days after a

white gunman murdered three black shoppers at a Jacksonville Family Dollar, the hate crime

quote has crippled and handcuffed our community and families are hurting. You know,

they're heartbroken. Our community is heartbroken as well. Unquote. But when asked

about DeSantis, Pittman was eager to make it very clear that despite his taking

the mic, this event was not meant meant to be about him. In

fact, she didn't know he was going to be there, let alone speak.

So here's what she said. Quote, I had no idea that the

governor was coming. The MC of the event for that day called him up.

He was just only he was just only supposed to have been acknowledged as

being there. That vigil that we did yesterday was not about the governor,

And I will say I don't support any of the stances or policies that the

governor has implemented. You know, my concern yesterday was about the families.

It was not a political ploy for me and our community. It was about

focusing on the families that were there and the hatred that had come to their

community. And so I just want to make myself clear. I wanted the

audience to calm down because I wanted him to sit down, and I wanted

it to be the event that was for the residence and the community that had

come together for unity. That's uh, that's what that event was about,

not the governor. Unquote. DeSantis called the shooter who turned the gun on

himself a scumbag and pledged one million dollars in funds for security at Edward Waters

University an HBCU. And if you don't know what that is, historically black,

its HBCU. You hear that in the media a lot and they don't

explain what it means. It's historically black colleges and universities. So Edward Waters

University as an HBCU that the gunman initially approached before the shooting at the family

dollar. Nonetheless, some critics have said that DeSantis's war on woke has spread

the rhetoric that led to his crime to this crime. Florida State Representative Angie

Dixon, as Democrats said DeSantis had blood on his hands when details of the

shooters white supremacist beliefs came to light. M Well, here's what I don't

that's see that I'm no fan of DeSantis, but I'm not I'm not a

fan of that kind of rhetoric either, coming from from the other side of

things, that saying he has blood on his hands. I'm not comfortable with

that. Shouldn't say things like that in my opinion. But here's here's the

full quote. This is a governor who has done nothing but fan these types

of happenings throughout our state. Look, at the end of the day,

the governor has blood on his hands. He has had an attack and all

out to attack on the black community with his anti woke policies, which we

know very well was nothing more than a dog whistle to get folks riled up

and riled up in the way in which it just happened yesterday. Yeah,

I'm a little uncomfortable with the blood on his hands part. But but anyway,

but yeah, this the Democratic Jacksonville councilwoman. She she did try to

Pittman, she did try to try to calm things down. But uh,

let's see, I apologize for having to step away. Yeah, that's okay.

I am still fighting with my health insurance company. For those who are

following that story, Yeah, so I apologize for having to step away.

That's all right, But I respect whatever you said in my absence. I

totally respect you for your opinions. I'm just I'm a big non fan of

De Santis and yeah, and to back up one, I do want to

say one thing. I have a big problem with politicians showing up when somebody

dies like that, and the family I doubt got the choice. When years

ago, when the Iraqi warfare started, my boss lost her husband and it

was horrible, and it was one of the earlier deaths, and it was

in Plymouth, Massachusetts, and Romney showed up walking in the in the procession,

and my girlfriend was devastated and disgusted and she didn't want him there,

and nobody talked to her. She didn't get a say. He just showed

up, and it was such an I was there with her. It was

such a horrific situation that since that moment, I've been one hundred percent against

politicians showing up when people have died or been killed without the family saying yes,

come be with me, because you can tell the difference. If the

family was, hey, come be with us, you wouldn't have people shouting

him down and saying you're not welcome, get out of here. That's not

what would be happening. Because when they show up and they're wanted, yeah,

they're usually standing right next to the loved one. The well loved one

is right with them. You see that all the time. But in these

situations when the family I doubt even necessarily knew he was going to show up,

and people are saying get out of here. Well, families, I

mean in this case, so because it was three people killed, right,

so you've got three different families. It's I understanding that two of the families

do want to speak to President Biden. One of the families said they would

rather not. And that's being that that apparently is being followed because he said

it himself, he's not going to try and force himself on anybody, but

anybody who wanted the call, he was going to give them a call.

Because unfortunately, in these situations, these family become the propaganda that gets held

up by both sides, Oh you got to decide with me, instead of

people just take a step back. For a minute. Let these people have

their grief. Let them have their feelings before you try and hold them up

and make them examples to pass whatever law. Right. Let people God,

let people in the just have that. It's a little bit tricky in that,

if I mean, with the Santists, it's kind of an unusual situation

because of his anti woke crusade. Complicates things obviously, but I think it

enhances my position. But I think, well, I was just going to

say, though I think, well, yeah, I was saying, with

the Santists, it's a little it's a little more complicated than it would be

for really probably any other governor in the country, to be honest with you,

because I think generally there's a little bit of a no win it's a

little bit of a no win situation because if a governor in a situation like

that doesn't show up, then there's going to be people who are going to

say, oh, this governor doesn't care. But I do think you're right.

Ultimately, it should be up to the families and what they want and

what they're comfortable with. They they should come first, and if they don't

express any particular reference, whoever is organizing the event should ask them, and

then the governor, be at DeSantis or any other governor from any other state,

should respect whatever that decision is. But I think when there's a serious

emergency going you don't necessarily want the political dude to get there right away because

he's going to get in the way. He's going to get security away from

the things that are going on. Yeah, you know, in those instances,

they get permission. So you know, why don't they ever talk to

the You know, why don't they listen to the families. If you got

one out of three saying I don't want you here, don't come issue a

statement, offer to talk to those people behind closed doors. If you're truly

going to be there to be supportive of these people, that's all you need

do. Right. If you insist or need to be out in front of

that camera, well you ain't doing. It's about the families. This is

about you and your ego. I think two. Probably it would depend on

some of that. I mean, ultimately, yeah, I agree it should

be up to the families. I think also to the it may depend somewhat

on well, just as an example, because Bill Clinton, I don't know

if there were any kind of when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas. I

don't know if there were any of these kinds of shootings on his watch,

but I would imagine it would probably have been had there been a pretty safe

bet that people would be comfortable with him showing up because he was known for

I mean, it's part of how he got elected president. He was you

know that whole I feel your pain thing. Whereas in contrast, somebody like

run to Santis. It's like, I don't know if the guy has any

actual human emotions or a capacity for empathy. And maybe he does. I'm

not saying that he doesn't. There might be a lot more. I mean,

most people, well most most people have a lot more to them than

what you see on the surface. Well, and I and I do have

a and I do have a suspicion about him that there's a lot that there

are things about him that he keeps hidden because he's because of his awkwardness.

Awkward people usually have things about themselves that where that they're not comfortable showing you.

And it might be and not I don't necessarily mean negative things. Sometimes

they can be positive things, like they don't want to they have emotions that

they don't want to show you because they're vulnerable. So I don't know.

I don't see that when I look at him. I don't either. But

I'm just saying, though, I'm just saying, you just never know.

Sometimes awkward people are deeply emotional. People think he's that complicated, Probably not,

probably not, probably not. I'm just saying, though, you never

really know. He's all about getting his mug in front of a camera.

I'd like to call that man cas about is this hair straight? And can

he get a space in front of a camera. I could better assess him

if I could meet him and look him in the eyes. But then again,

apparently he doesn't look people in the eyes when he when he meets them.

Mike Doyle is on the line him, Mike, Hey, guys,

how are you doing good? How are you good? Hey? Jenny,

Hey, I was I just turned you on. I was listening to ten

minutes of your conversation there. Don't you think, like any politician, if

you're especially running for president, that if you didn't show up. And I

understand the family thing, but somebody, you know, did somebody ever tell

him listen? One family doesn't want you here. But but if he if

he doesn't show up, what are they going to say, right, that's

a headline for We were talking about that he doesn't want to be involved with

when you know that type of thing. Yeah, I said, I said

that. I like I said, it's a little bit of a no win

situation. I do agree, and that it should be up to the family.

Sorry and go ahead, No, I was saying, I do believe

it should be absolutely up to the families ultimately. But I but I also

acknowledged, Yeah, it is a little bit complicated because you're right, if

he doesn't show up, it will get used against him. Oh yeah.

And and so in that effort, you know, he came off the campaign

trail to do this, you know, error on the side of being there

versus not being there. You know, you can argue with that. People

some people there was only I read the article this morning and they were saying

some people were booing. There was a small contingent booing and probably family members

or you know. And he in his speech he said, you know,

I found out recently that the security at that college that the kid went to

first was kind of lax. So this morning he signed an executive order to

give a million dollars grand a million dollars to that university to beef up their

beef up their security. Right. So he also gave some other money to

somebody else for security something else. I can't remember. Well, I think

it was more than I think it was more than one HBCU that. Yeah,

he's uh funding to ben. You know, it's funny how people can

kind of rat on him, but it's it's what he's supposed to do.

He's a governor. He comes out the campaign trail, he has to go

this is this happened in the money. I gotta show up. I gotta

tell the people I'm behind you. We're gonna you know. And his last

statement was this should not happen. It doesn't matter what color of your skin

is. And but people still want to kind of crap on him. And

I don't know. I think he just did what he had to do.

Like you said, Yeah, I don't think it was had to He could

have said, he could have made a statement without going down to that specific

site. Well, I would be curious to know. One thing we don't

see if he's going to make security works. One thing that we don't know

is what do the families think or did they have any input on this.

That's a that's an important piece of information to me in terms of judging the

appropriateness of him being there. And that's something we don't know, and we

might not ever we might not ever know that. We don't we don't know

that, and we don't know if anybody relayed anything to him to say,

hey, they would rather not have you here right out of respect, and

he would say, Okay, I'm not going to go there out of respect.

That we don't know if either of those happen. Jenny's point, Jenny,

here's here's the problem with what you're saying is if he did it long

distance via video, he would still get chastised. I'm not disagreeing that it's

a no win situation one way or the other. I'm just saying that from

from the way things appeared, it appeared like maybe he should have asked first

and chosen to go after he got an answer. You know, what is

it? What can I ask a question of YouTube? What is it that

gets under your skin about the Santa so much? Oh my god? What

doesn't? What does it? Everybody's moving to Florida. They're all moving to

Florida. Tax free. Hey, tax free, my butt, tax free,

my butt. We're way more tax free up here than they are.

They have a lot of county taxes. Number one, Number two, Where

do we start with Florida? Should we start with the flesh eating bacteria that's

washing up on shore? Should we start with the triple digit the leprosy being

transmitted by mosquitoes? The fact that all of the a lot of the major

home insurance companies are completely pulling out or not writing insurance policies there anymore,

because that's gone to heck in a handbag. While he was paying attention to

Disney and actually causing the state more money by taking seven miles a road back

into the state's control. They had to absorb all of that with that,

like taking care of the road policing ems. That's such He's Let's see,

the Diary of Van Frank is not used in Florida schools anymore because that's pornography,

don't you know. So when we teach the Holocaust, we don't teach

the Diary of Van Frank and Florida anymore, is my understanding. Let's see

where else should we go? Flying cockroaches? Anybody? Anybody? Tons of

poisonous and buying stakes and leopardsy flesh eating bacteria. Yeah, no, Florida's

not for me. Knock yourself out. Well, to be fair, Mike,

you did. I think your exact question was what's wrong with Florida?

Right? So, I don't know how you want me to word it.

I didn't mean the problems because every other state has problems. Who yeah,

but every other state. Yeah, but we don't have leprosy flying around in

mosquitoes in New Hampshire, you know, dude, like they have that.

Go look it up. I'm not even kidding you. They have a leprosy

outbreak going on in Florida right now. They have more poisonous snakes than I

can think of. We have one, I know. But all right,

So you're talking about Florida's conditions. They're they're pre quarters surrounded by water.

It's it's a tough situation. I used to love one and a lot of

cold on one side, and one is susceptible to tornadoes and hurricanes not so

much anymore. A lot of wet They got a lot of wetlands, which

produces a lot of mosquitoes. And so I don't know which one Ron de

Santa Is to get out there with Ron de Santas. What I'd like him

to do is retire. I think he's the worst thing to happen in politics.

I think he's a terrible who live in Florida say just the opposite,

say we love it here, he's great. Maybe they won't next go around.

Well, they got a lot of people exiting. I mean, you've

talked about I don't know what, I don't know very increasing every year you're

wrong about. No, no, no, no, no go. A

lot of the blogs on all the people who are a part of the LGBTQ

community who like, I'm not living here anymore, or how many black moms

are pulling their kids out because they don't want their kids being taught that slaves

were given skills. Oh, let's not go, I don't want to.

Let's right, let's not get on that road again. Well, these are

the people that are moving out. I'm saying, is all I'm saying is

there is a lot of My brother lives in Florida six months out of the

year. His wife's a staunch Democrat, and she votes for De Santa's every

year. He's fantastic. No, I don't know my brother, everybody,

my other brother lives down there. He's like him better than Trump. People

love him. Do you like him better than Trump? Which one you're going

for? I do, because I don't think he'll shoot it. I would

think he would do a lot of the same policies that we had three years

ago that we don't have now, and be paid and less than gas and

inflation and all that stuff. And I think I don't think he shoot himself

in the foot as much as Trump does with his mouth. I don't think

anything. Yeah, you can't think anybody. Yeah, yeah, I don't

think anyone would. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, yeah.

To your point, Mike, I mean, DeSantis did do very well in

his re election versus not that Charlie Christ was a particularly strong candidate, but

DeSantis won pretty big in that election. But he doesn't He's got he's got

two degrees from Yale and somewhere Howevard. I think, oh, yeah,

no, he's a he was a he was a Navy seal, he was

a jag officer. He's done he's done all the right things to help people

and defend the country. And I don't know, and some and everybody just

hates him the guy, Well, he didn't have to go back to Afghanistan,

he did, I think. I don't know. Yeah, I think

all the all the anti woke stuff I think really hurts him, even among

Republicans. There's polling data that shows Republicans are just kind of tired of hearing

about woke this and woke that. But I do think De Santa's got the

message because in that last debate, I don't know if I was trying to

think back, I don't think I heard to Santa's use the word woke once

that entire debate, which was actually very surprising to me because for a long

time, every interview I would see with him, the first thing out of

his mouth about any subject he would be asked about us, well, we

have to defeat woke ism and wokeness and this and that, like he's so

hyper focused on it all of a suddender. In that debate, I don't

know if he said the word woke even one time, which is definitely a

pivot for him. I don't know if it'll help him or not, But

I don't think he connects with people though in the same way that some of

those other candidates might be able to Yeah, I mean I haven't I haven't

met I haven't met the guy, but I've heard people like when he comes

to New Hampshire. I've heard people say he doesn't really look you in the

eye when he shakes her hand. He's just he's kind of nervous and awkward.

And one guy compared him to a carnival barker. No, well,

I see without meeting the guy, how could you even say that that.

Somebody else said he doesn't look in the eye and he's and he's a carnival.

But how can you say those things? But I had actually knowing him,

and pretty easy to determine. When they open their mouths, you can

tell. Well, I could see him, I see him on TV,

I see him on video, I hear him. But I actually can't take

credit for that. I was actually reading somebody else's choice words, but I

happen to agree with them. I mean, we are talking about a guy

who declared pro wrestlers necessary humans for a plague because that made sense, right,

Yeah, as the first responder, that was really dumb. Well,

I would have been bummed if we didn't have WrestleMania that year, though,

Dude, come yeah, So Matt, Matt, so your point about woke

during the campaign during the debate, I don't think I saw it either.

Yeah, but why would he I would he bring that up if he didn't

need to. You know, that's like any other subject that's controversial. Why

would you bring it up if you didn't have to. I think that's what

Matt was saying, that he was bringing that up a lot, and in

this debate he did not bring it up. That was the Yeah, yeah,

his famous his famous line is this is Florida is where woke goes to

die? Right, Yeah, but he uses at all the time. That's

his that's his stupid theory there. But I wonder you might not hear that

anymore though this may have been a pivot for him. I don't know.

We'll see. Yeah. Hey, one last thing. Did you watch the

whole debate? Oh? Yeah, absolutely? Did you see you when they

asked the question about who would vote with Trump if he becomes the nominee,

the whole right side of the stage as you're facing and put their hands up.

And then Chris Christie looked over and sire, everybody putting their hands up,

and he put his hand up, like put off and he was waving

a little bit, a little where to put it what he had like a

little finger wave, going yeah, yeah. He didn't know when that to

put it up down. He was caught in the middle. And then when

they asked him, he said, you put your hand up a little bit,

he said, He said, oh, I was waving for I was.

I wanted you to ask me a question, such a coward was It

was a very strange moment. I would have liked to have heard. I

haven't heard him explain what he was doing, because to me, it looked

like he said, oh no, I was going like this, and it

looked like he was making an emotion, like he was writing something. And

I wondered, I didn't know if that was a reference to the pledge that

he had to sign, because they all had to sign a pledge that they

would support the eventual nominee. I didn't well, I don't know, I

don't know. I mean, that was one theory because it looked like he

was making a right but he never explained it. And I haven't heard anyone

really ask him, Hey, what what were you doing with your hand?

And he could back it up. I mean, it kind of looked like

he was starting to put his hand up and then like quit halfway up.

Yeah. I like, wait a minute, I'm not sure that's what I

think. Yes, exactly. He looked started on the right side, and

it's slowly went across everybody's putting it up, and then death to him and

he's like, oh shit, and he started to put his hand up.

Oh sorry, that's all right, Mike, we're on a delay. I

caught it. Although that's the first time I've ever Okay, that's the first

time I've ever had to do that with you. You're you're you know,

and I'm not I'm not big on craziness. But anyways, all right,

I just wanted to put my two cents in that he he you know,

I mean during COVID, he didn't close down this state. The economy kept

going. You got to ague you can't ague that he has a lot of

elderly and he came in right in the middle of the chart. If you

look on the chart of deaths, he was right in the middle of all

the states. So he did it. He did it. You know,

any one death is horrible, but but for just looking at death versus states

and who has the elderly and the most vulnerable population. It's certainly Florida.

And he came in right in the middle of the pack when when the numbers

were all settled, and so people look at that and say that was he

did a great job. Kids didn't have to wear a mask to school,

things like that, and they got He got away with all of it and

it all worked well. I think that's the whole thing. I thought,

that's a big subject, which which was maybe for another day. We don't

have time to get all that now. Mading cause of death in Florida is

COVID. Yeah, it's hard disease, cancer, COVID and undintentional injury.

Yeah. Yeah, but look at just look at that. I'll hang out

because we've gone a long time. But when you get a minute, just

you know, google the deaths in by state, state by state and look

where Florida ended up, and he has by far the most vulnerable population with

all the elderly. They're retired in Florida. So I don't know that's that.

I'm just trying to give you an outline of why people like that see

him as I do. Says he's better than Trump, or he's better than

Chris Christy or better than a lot of these, even though I think Nicki

Haley did a great job. She had a oh in the debate, she

had a few good moments. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree.

So anyways, all right, goodbye, SI. Down with you guys.

We'll talk to you soon. All right, thanks for the call,

Mike, take care see you. All right. That was our friend Mike

Doyle, and I'd give the I'd give the studio line again, but we

actually were approaching the top of the hour, so a couple of minutes,

so we do have a guest. Yes, Governor Ron de Santis already statewide

lockdown April first, twenty twenty. Yeah, so there was some lot.

He didn't not lockdown completely, right right. I think he opened things up

quicker than some than some state serious to look at their death rate. I'm

definitely going to look it up. Melanie points out in the chat room he

fired the person who was in charge of the COVID data. He didn't like

the numbers. Yeah, there was some of that. Yeah. The other

thing too, is uh with those with that data, you know, it

kind of depends on where in the pandemic you're looking at and I've heard all

those numbers spun a thousand different ways, so I don't know. And I'm

not even good at maths, so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into

all of that. But again, though, I mean to Mike's point,

uh, Desantists did and that last election he pretty well crushed Charlie Chris.

So obviously Floridian's happy with the job he's been doing. But does that translate

in terms of him being a candidate for the presidency And I just don't.

I just don't think so. I don't think he has the ability to connect

with people, and I think a lot of people are really turned off by

the all the anti woke stuff, which again he may have pivoted on that

he may have Finally, he's not trying to be everybody's governor. Now.

The other thing about him, though, too, is Desantist comes off like

if you disagree with him, it's you know, because if you're gonna win

in a general election, you want to try to at least present yourself as

somewhat of a uniter, whereas Desantist kind of has this vibe like he doesn't

even want to try to unite people. If you disagree with him. He

hates you and just move out and yeah, and he just wants nothing to

do with you. I mean, that's just how he I mean, he's

never explicitly said that, but I'm just saying that's how he comes off.

I know what he is. For me, one more reason not to move

to Florida. Well, no, thank you. I'm gonna stay here in

New England. It's a it's a bit safer, it's a bit nicer,

a lot nicer opinion. Scott Robinson said in the chat, I've heard that

if De Santa doesn't get the nomination, he is going to be the new

lead on the reboot of Greatest American Hero. I remember watching that show when

I was a kid. I like the theme song that Believe it or Not,

I'm Walking on Air. I loved that show. We played that one

night on Retrospectrum Radio. That was in paulse playlist for it was TV themes.

I think the theme was Actually I think we might have done two episodes

uh TV themes that were also hit songs on the radio. Let's see,

do we have time to maybe just quickly say hello to some people in the

chat room and then we're gonna get to one of the tracks from our band

that's coming up. We should say hello to everybody in here quickly, though.

Jay fed joins us and says, good afternoon everyone, of course,

from the great state of Vermont. Scott Robinson says, wow, there was

almost as many people at the Martin Luther King I have a dream speech as

there were at Trump's inauguration. If you're if you're just joining us and you

don't know what that's a reference. Who. Of course, we did open

today with the speech Martin Luther King, because it's the sixty year anniversary of

the March on Washington where Martin Luther King gave that wonderful speech. Miriam Bannish

joins us in the Facebook live chat. Hello, Miriam, as well as

Chris Rose from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Aboard seven, who I'm pretty sure

is from Greensboro, North Carolina, says good afternoon from us. Hashtag Matt

Connerton and hashtag gen coffee. And how are you from us? Melanie la

Liberty I think I mentioned, She says, Hey, guys. Aboard seven

says we for us had a good weekend. Hashtag Matt Connerton and hashtag gen

coffee for us. We say, was so sad that the legend of the

host of Price's Right Game show, Bob Barker, passed away for the weekend.

He was awesome host from US. We say, is r I P

Bob Barker so strange how they talk in Greensboro hashtag Greensboro, North Carolina.

When when when at seven says he passed away for the weekend, it makes

it sound like he's just passed away for the weekend and now he's back.

Melanie said, he is a disgusting little man, I believe, referring to

uh Ron de Santis. He's actually rather tall, is he? Why does

why does Trump call him tiny? D? I thought he was tall.

I thought, I don't think he's I don't think he's short, but I

think he's like on the low end of medium height. Trump is tall,

So maybe just next to Trump, he seems short. But I have no

idea because I'm a brat. I threw an article in the chat room just

to to share the Palm Beach post November ninth, twenty twenty. Don't follow

the state's example. The coronavirus has killed more people age sixty five and older

in Florida than any other state in the nation. That is the Palm Beach

Post on November ninth, twenty two. Yeah, thank you, Scott Robinson

said in the chat. And he worked his way through college at an Ivy

League school making seven dollars an hour. He's just a god. Now that

was about the rate then, there wasn't it. What's that? The rate

was probably about seven back then. Yeah. Melanie says he wants to control

women's bodies and is scared of people entertaining and sparkly clothes, and he is

changing history books. He also is afraid of books in general. I think

I don't know if he literally is changing them himself. But Rondo Ferverro from

the Great State of California joins us and says, Hi, guys, let's

see. Also, Joe Friday joins us in the chat and says hello,

Matt and the lovely Jenny, Oh, thank you. Hello. Aboard seven

says we say president and Biden is doing the best as he can. From

us because if he stays being the president. Biden from US, we said,

from us, don't care about Trump. I really wish that neither of

them would be on my ballot. M Yeah, agreed, just going to

throw that out there. Agreed, Joe Friday is asking Mike Doyle how how

is Saratoga? But unfortunately I did not see that comment. Uh well,

Mike was still on the line. But yeah, Joe Friday is asking if

Mike hit it big like a gambly police that's the horse racing. Oh Saratoga.

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By the way. Now this is apropos of nothing political or anything,

but I just happened to so on the morning show this morning, h Shannon

had called in and she asked a question about UH radio at night. Why

why is it that you can pick radio stations up? I forget exactly how

she phrased it. I think she said something about different times of day being

able to get different radio stations, like from further away or something like that.

I wasn't sure. Yeah, at least that's what it sounded me like

she was asking about. And it's actually true that at night, and sometimes

very late at night, you can get radio stations from further away. And

there was a scientific explanation for it. And I can attest to this.

I had something. Really My dad might even remember this, you know,

because he listens to the show. When I was a kid, I was

probably I don't know, maybe ten eleven years old. I was a radio

nerd from a pretty young age. Always had the radio on, and there

was one night This only happened once and it never happened again, but it

was so cool. I was always, you know, going through the scrolling

through the dial, turning the dial, trying to see if there were radio

stations available that I didn't know about yet that I just had and found yet,

both on AM and FM. That's how into it I was. There

was one night, and I remember it was a clear night. It was

in the I believe it was in the summertime. I landed on a radio

station I didn't recognize, and I heard the liner. It was a station

Swear to god, Buffalo, New York. Really it was, don't get

me wrong. It was very scratchy. There was a lot of static,

but I heard, you know, w blah blah blah whatever. It was

Buffalo, New York. And I was like, oh my god. And

it only lasted maybe twenty seconds, and then it got really staticky again,

and that was it. And I and then I but I remembered where it

was. I made a note of where it was on the dial, and

every once in a while I would go back and look for it. But

it was Buffalo, New York and we were living in Conquer, New Hampshire.

But it was just it was at night, it was kind of late,

and there it was. It was it was really amazing. So there

is actually something to Shannon's question, and I happened to look this up.

This is short. This is from how stuff works dot com. Why do

you hear some radio stations better at night than in the day? And there

is a scientific explanation. It says here, radio waves naturally travel in straight

lines, so you would naturally expect because of the curvature of the Earth,

with apologies any flat earthers out there, you would naturally expect, because of

the curvature of the Earth, that no radio station would transmit further than thirty

or forty miles. And that is exactly the case for ground based as opposed

to satellite TV transmissions. The curvature of the Earth prevents ground based TV transmissions

from going much further than forty miles or sixty four kilometers. Certain radio stations,

however, especially the shortwave and AM bands, can travel much farther.

Shortwave can circle the globe, and AM. Actually, we know someone who's

made videos about bragging about how he's talked to people in other parts of the

world a long long time. Yes, shortwave can circle the globe, and

AM stations transmit hundreds of miles at night. The extended transmission is possible because

of the ionosphere, one of the layers of the atmosphere. It is called

the ionosphere because when the Sun's rays hit this layer, many of the atoms

there lose electrons and turn into ions. As it turns out, the ionosphere

reflects certain frequencies of radio waves, so the waves bounce between the ground and

the ionosphere and make their way around the planet. The composition of the ionosphere

at night is different than during the day because of the presence or absence of

the sun. You can pick up some radio stations better at night because the

reflection characteristics of the ionosphere are better at night. So it actually is true.

It's not just a myth that you can you can get radio stations further

away at night than you can during the day. But yeah, I'll never

forget that moment. It was so bizarre. Are I wonder if my dad

remembers that, because I remember like telling him Dad. I didn't call him

dad, I called him. I called him paw for some reason when I

was a kid. I don't know why. I think it was from watching

Little House on the Prairie. That makes sense. But yeah, I was

like, hey, I got a radio station from Buffalo, New York.

But I think by the time he came into the room it had already gone

back to static. But it was so weird a brief moment, it was

wild. It was like like the science fiction like, Wow, the dulcet

tones of New York City. Well it wasn't dulcet because it was very it

was very staticky, but I could just make it out. I could make

out the I wish I could remember the call letters, but I could make

out the call letters and the and the location just just incredible. And obviously

there was nothing there occupying that frequency on the dial here locally or there.

And as we were in conquered. I grew up at WBC Yes Yes,

every morning and waiting for the school cancelations. Back then, you had to

wait until they said the alphabet all the way down to your town name.

Oh yeah. It was no computer to look at right right. If you

missed it, you had to sit there and wait for it go all over

again. Yes, here's a new name in the Facebook live chat, and

I'm sure I'll get it wrong, Tassi. Who's Tassi Usani? Tassi Usani?

And I'm actually not saying it twice because I'm trying to make sure I

get it right. I'm saying it twice, although I would like to get

it right out of respect. I try to get people's names correct. But

it's actually the same name twice, Tassi, Tassi Usani, Tassi Usani.

I bet him close. Or maybe it's Tassi Usani Tassi Usani. Hashtag joins

us in the chat room. Nope, no hashtag, no hashtag. So

I don't know if they're from Greensboro. I can't see them. It's like

sometimes you can see stuff and I look, I don't see it. Oh

really, Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, well, I know it's different

on every I'll see things, you know, because I have my computer here

and then I have and then of course we have the big monitor here,

but I also bring in my own computer, and I see things. I

see different even though it's the same chat room. Sometimes I'll see certain comments

on one browser and not the other. It's it's very strange. Abort seven

says we are from Greensboro, North Carolina, from US. Good afternoon.

Matt's father from US. We say, mister Connerton high from US. I

didn't see him. It's so nice. I just mentioned my dad. And

then Abort seven is saying hello from Greensboro, North Carolina. Well not nice.

You know what that sounds like, don't you now? Miriam Bannish says,

late at night, I could hear New York City stations. Interesting,

Oh, Joe Friday is talking about bad things really like what remember seeing the

French nudy movies on the night TV. Oh I do. I don't know

what you're talking about, Joe Friday. Now that's a discussion for Matt Connerton

unsheathed. How dare you talked about that? Yeah? Miriam says, oh,

yeah, late at night, I couldn't New York when I Oh,

she could get New York stations when she was living in southeastern PA. Do

you know what I didn't know until recently, well until a couple of years

ago, when Dusty Hill from ZZ Top died. Yeah. So, like

a lot of people, I was nostalgic, and I, you know,

always loved zz Top still do. And I was reading about there's a song

that I played because I wanted to find because Billy Gibbons is the primary lead

vocalist in that band, but Dusty did sing a handful of songs. So

when Dusty died, I specifically looked for cool zz top songs to play where

Dusty did the lead vocals. And there's a song called heard It on the

X that's from an early album, and I didn't know what that meant heard

It on the X, but I thought heard it does this have something to

do with radio. So it turns out in Mexico. You know how in

the United States, Uh, in the eastern half of the country, it's

all the call letters start with W and in the western half they all start

with K. Didn't know that. No, Actually I never never really need

that little easter egg like double yeah, like yeah, I forget where the

line is. But but yes, so stations like that's why stations in California

they all start with K for example. Well in Mexico, it turns out

they all start with X. And there there are these stations, or there

were, they might not still be around. There were these stations in Mexico

called border blasters but slang term. And the reason they were called that is

because in Mexico the stations didn't have the radio stations then and maybe it's still

true today. But when when these guys were growing up in zz Top,

you know, they're from Texas, so they would hear these Mexican radio stations

because they were called border blasters because whereas they were unregulated, their frequencies would

travel really far. So you might literally have a five hundred thousand watts station

in Mexico that would reach almost all the way to Canada. So that's why

the song is called heard It, Heard It on the X because they would

hear some really cool things on these Mexican radio stations, some really cool you

know, blues artists and stuff that you wouldn't hear on American radio. But

apparently so, I don't know if those stations are still around, and if

they're still you know where you can get them, like way up almost into

Canada. But yeah, they're called border blasters and you can get them very

far. Let's see. I just want to make sure we don't miss anybody

in here. Oh, Joe Friday says, speaking of tall guys and horse

racing, Happy birthday to Nick Macris twenty eight on the twenty eighth Watch for

his horse. He's a lucky guy. I guess that's the name of the

horse. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry joins us in the Facebook live chat.

Queen City Cabinetry one of our great sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three

FM, and I get to hang out with Mike every Friday night for retro

Spectrum Radio with Pauly c U. Joe Friday says, border Blasters. That's

a great name for a cocktail. Miriam Bannish says the University of North Texas

had a problem with their call letters. They go to K and TU Now,

oh yes. Aboard seven says, uh, it took me a half

second to get that, but yeah, I can see how that would be

a problem, Miriam. I don't even know if Miriam serious or if she's

kidding. She might be serious. I think she is serious, but if

not, that's a great joke. If she's kidding, but I think she's

serious. Aboard seven says which one members of zz top who passed away from

us? Matt Bob Barker. He was the He was a member of zz

Top. He passed away over the weekend. No. Dusty Hill, of

course, the bass player and occasional lead singer, A board seven says we

say zz top had good hits. Yes they did, Yes they did.

Uh. Six three two five zero six zero seven is a studio line if

you'd like to join us today. Six zero three two five zero six zero

seven. Oh, Miriam says I'm one hundred percent serious. Yeah, see,

you're terrible? Why because you are? What's terrible? You? There

was? I'm trying to here we go. I did not get a chance

to, Oh should we do this? I haven't. I have an article

here from Media Ey'd about cable news shows and networks ranked for bias and accuracy.

But I also wanted to do the Oliver Anthony thing. Let's do the

Oliver Anthony thing. I can save this for another day. We might have

time for both. So Oliver Anthony, do you know who Oliver Anthony has?

To remember? We talked about him. He did that song Richmond North

of Richmond, and now I have I have a radio edit of this song.

What I would like to do now? Oliver Anthony? He kind of

became famous sort of overnight. Because what happened is a lot of right wing

podcast and online media personalities like Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh. You know the

whole Daily Wire crew and whatnot. They really got behind this song so and

really kind of championed this song, and a lot of conservatives love the song.

Now there's some backlash though, at Oliver Anthony because he didn't like that.

He says he didn't like that the song was actually featured at the Republican

debate, because he said, wait a minute, those those people on that

debate stage there, there's some of the same people I'm talking about. This

has nothing to do with party. My song isn't about a particular political party.

I'm talking about everybody in Washington, both Republicans and Democrats. So now

he's getting some backlash from some of the conservatives who supported him. But what

I would like to do, I have not listened to this song all the

way through. Now. Regular listeners might recall a number of weeks ago there

was a big controversy around the song Try That in a Small Town by Jason

Aldeen, and I intentionally avoided listening to that song because I want to play

it on the show and give you my live in the moment, unvarnished if

you will reaction to it and get feedback from the audience and get your thoughts

and whatnot. And luckily though, DJ Steve was in the Facebook live chat

that day and said, Hey, Matt, heads up there. You'll want

the radio edit because Jason Aldeen actually says the sword in the song, so

I had to find the radio edit. This song also has the sword in

it, but there is a radio edit available, so I have not.

Now I've heard more of this song than I had heard of the Jason Aldeen

song before I played it on the show. But I've avoided listening to this

song all the way through for the same reason. I'm going to play the

song all the way through the radio edit, of course, right here live

on the air, and give you my my reaction to it, and get

your reaction and of course anybody in the audience who wants to react or has

any thoughts on it. I've heard only the very beginning of the song.

I have heard a tiny bit of it. I had to hear enough of

it to make sure it was a legitimate radio edit. Fortunately, the first

s bomb is very early in the song, so I didn't have to get

very far in the song to hear. Okay, they did the reversal on

that to make the swear go away. Good. So this is a legitimate

radio edit. So so you haven't heard the song, right, I don't

think though, Okay, so I'm gonna play it right now. The radio

edit of Richmond North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony and h And I'll tell you

what I think. And uh, well that's it. I'll tell you what

I think and we'll hear what you all think. Here here we go.

I've been selling my soul, working home day over time hours for bish.

Hey, so I can sit out here and waste my life for hate,

drag back home and drown my troubles away. It's a damn shame what the

horld has gotten to for people like me, people like you. Wish I

could just wake up and not be true. But it is, Oh,

it is living in the new world with a hold soul. The rich Man

nor the Richmond Lord knows it all. Just wanna have total control, wanna

know what you think. I wanna know what you do, and then don't

think you know, but then whole like you do your dollar hate dish and

it's costin on him, calls the red Man on the ch man. Wish

politicians look out from miners and not just miners on an island somewhere. Lord,

we got folks in the street, ain't got nothing to eat, and

they hold be milking welfare. God, if you're five foot three and your

three hundred pounds taxes hold not for pay or your bags of food grounds don't

in. They're putting themselves six feet in the ground. Is all this damn

country does is keep on kicking them down. Lord, It's a damn shame

what the world's gotten to the people like me, people like you who wish

I could just wake up and it not be true, But it is all

it is living in the new world with an hold soul. These rich men

told for Richmond. Lord knows they all just wanna have total control, want

to know what you think, want to know what you do. And then

I don't thank you, know, but I know that you do because your

dollar haines ash and it's texting a hen calls the CHMN not the DSMN.

I've been selling my soul, working all day over time hard for boldish pay.

What do you think that was the first time for me listening to it

all the way through, and I'm glad I've I've actually looked up some stuff

about this guy. I can see what he's saying. Uh, there's some

stuff in there that I think is kind of uncomfortable for me, because he's

doing like some there's some Nott shaming in there about However, that being said,

when you actually, when I'm reading this man, what he is saying,

he's saying that the rich, the rich, it's the rich who hurt

the poor. And I'm sorry, that's true, that's very true. The

elitists did never have to worry about their healthcare. The elitists don't worry about

food on their table. And yeah, they'll pay as craptastic as they can

for a salary to make sure that they keep pattinging those dollars they gotta pay

for those little yats they get to pay for those stily clothes. They could

give two craps about the rest of us, as long as their cough is

a gain in fult so in the in the in the vein of what he

intended for it. I can disagree with this man. I think that,

and I can support what he's saying. I well, one thing, I

yeah, one thing I cannot support is he kind of he kind of uh

at one point, and it's it's with the fat shaming comment. He's sort

of it it almost, And part of my thinking about this might be a

little bit tainted by some of what I was reading and hearing about the song

before actually listening to it. But he sounds like he kind of takes a

swipe at people who are unwelfare and I don't and I don't like that.

Yeah, but but but he he sounds like he's doing it more combined with

fat shaming, like he doesn't do they the old Ronald Reagan welfare queen.

Uh nonsense, So right, And that's what I was saying. That's part

of the song that I have the discomfort with. Yeah, the over if

I take a broad view of what he's singing a about, well, he's

singing about a lot of the same stuff that I've been talking about from podiums

for the last few months about, Yeah, how we don't get we get

cut off in our healthcare. People are poor because they they're poor because they

can only afford their medicines. After that they're broke. They're made medically poor.

How many people have bankruptcies, lose their houses because of medicine? What

he just from that one perspective to me, if I look at it in

that vein, one hundred percent agree with the guy. But I mean,

there's a lot of what he says it's absolutely true, and especially I gotta

say in some southern areas. When I was in Kentucky, the world was

very different, and I'm sure that it still is from the north. You

know, maybe it's a different world. The pay scales are different. I

worked in a sweatshop sewing factory. We got told we weren't getting paychecks because

the facts machine messed up the numbers because ninety percent of the people in that

room didn't know how a fax machine worked, what it does, never even

saw one. You know. I saw a lot of slimy, slimy stuff

in Kentucky that would never get pulled off here. Yeah, but they get

away with it in the backwood there, at least they did when I was

there. I'm speaking from my own personal experience, right, I don't know

what that world is like now. Maybe because we're all connected now with computers,

maybe it's become different. Oh, I'm sure I felt about the job

application that literally asked me if I was married, and if I had children,

how many it wanted? My height it wanted my weight. This was

a gas station job. So I remember what I said about the Jason Aldeen

song when I played that live on the air. I said, just now

taking the video out of it, just a song itself. And there by

the way, there is no video for the well, no, actually I

think there is a video for this song. But it's so simple. It's

a simplaint. But you know, the Jason Aldean song, of course,

has this whole big produced video, and there's controversy about the video, but

the song itself. What I said about the song itself, because people were

saying it was racist and whatnot, I said, this song taken by itself,

I don't believe as racist, but I can see it why if you

are racist, you would like this song. I would say about this song

Richmond North of Richmond, if you are a I don't think the song is

promoting a particular ideology, and apparently, from what Oliver Anthony is saying,

that was absolutely not his intention. However, I can see why conservatives.

Why is something like you know, the Daily Wire crew, like Ben Shapiro

and Matt Walsh and all of them. I can see why they got behind

the song because there's some you know, it's it's it's kind of a populist.

It's become sort of this populist anthem, and there's different kinds of populism,

and it's kind of a right leaning sounding populism. So I can see

why they got behind the song. But there's a couple of interesting controversies that

actually have come out. So one is is what I said, he was

upset that the song was used during during that debate. And by the way,

for anyone who says, because I know some people are saying, well,

then why did he approve it, he probably didn't. They never usually

do. Well, here's the thing though, because some people say, well,

wouldn't he wouldn't He have had to have at least given his approval for

them to use a song. But here's the thing. Well, yeah,

there's a bit of a history of people using songs and political campaigns without approval.

But the other thing is this guy got very famous, very fast,

and very rich. Well I don't know if he's rich looking at the numbers.

Oh okay, oh yeah yeah, but he got very famous, very

fast, and he probably I'm sure he has a team already that had to

be hastily put together who he probably has a management team who said, well,

of course you can use the song, and it wasn't necessarily his decision.

But so that's one controversy. So now he's coming out and say,

no, they're part of the problem. They're the people I'm singing about.

It's not it's not just about one party. But the other controversy is now

he's also being accused of faking his accent because of a video of an interview

that he did where he talks about diversity. This is what's got the Daily

Wire crew all upset. He talks about diversity, and he talks about how

diversity is a strength and it's one of the things that is great about America

and we should celebrate diversity. Well, not everyone that the Daily Wire is

on board with that message, as you might imagine. Not everyone's a fan

of this diversity of which he speaks. Now, some people are also saying

to him, I've seen I've seen online people saying, you know, well

this this guy clearly got used. I actually saw it might have even been

on this because I got this radio edit from YouTube. It might even be

on here. Somebody said, you got used, dude, saying that,

basically saying that he got used by the Daily Wire and these other online conservatives

who made this song their anthem, and now they're mad at him because they

feel betrayed by him, because he's not really with them. He's not with

any particular party. But but I think it's possible. And again I say

this from a little bit of a different perspective than most people probably have because

of you know, I come from a music industry background. I think it's

possible that this guy used the system to get himself famous. And if,

and if I'm right, if this was intentional on his part, bravo,

well played. Because this guy, no matter who likes a song or who

doesn't, and whatever backlash he's facing, this guy not only did he get

famous almost overnight with the song, but he's figured out how to keep his

name in the news with all the backlash. I mean, it's fantastic.

If it did all happen by accident, that's great too. But that's impressive.

I mean, this is all I'm amazed. And here this is from

Newsweek. By the way, he's supposedly making forty grand a day on this

could be Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a viral law sensation.

Certainly is uh. This is from Newsweek. Oliver Anthony's meteoric rise to fame

in the country music world has come with increased scrutiny, this time focusing on

his accent. Last month, Anthony was an unknown country music hopeful, but

thanks to an endorsement from controversial podcaster Joe Rogan, I didn't even realize it

started with Joe Rogan. He went viral overnight with his hit song rich Men

North of Richmond. A video of him singing the song was uploaded to YouTube

on August seven and has received thirty four million views with more than one hundred

and thirty thousand comments at the time of the writing. It won praise from

many well known conservatives for highlighting topics such as QAnon and Jeffrey Epstein. I

didn't catch a QAnon reference in there. I did catch the Jeffrey Epstein reference.

He talks about miners on an island. The song also takes aim at

taxation, welfare cheats, obesity, and makes references makes reference to sex trafficking.

Well, that's yeah, that's the jeff Jeffrey Epstein part Republican politician Marjorie

Taylor Green even dubbed the song the Anthem of Forgotten Americans, but his newfound

fans have already started to turn on the singer after comments he made during a

Fox interview. Anthony described blue collar workers as quote the melting pot of the

world unquote, and championed diversity, saying, quote, that's what makes us

strong. We need to learn to harness that and appreciate it and not use

it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other. They're unquote,

he said, which earned the wrath of some conservatives on Twitter. Why

is he talking about deservested diversity? That's that's so it's it's weird. How

that's pretty mild stuff. You know, you you you would you would think

he said, by the way, I you know, I love Black lives

matter, and you know, all he said was, you know, diversity,

and we're the melting pot of the world and we should celebrate that.

That's pretty mild. I'm looking at some of the comments that are being made.

So I told you this guy was a plant. Yeah, promoting what

is this promoted algorithm promoted algorithm boosted based red bearded hillbilly song guy was faking

his accent and says diversity is our strength. Why is he saying diversity?

It says here. There's more from Newsweek, It's says now. His detractors

have claimed the Farmville, Virginian native has been faking his accent and pointed to

the Fox News interview with Griff Jenkins as proof. They claimed his accent was

not Southern, even though his singing style would suggest otherwise. Virginia, God,

that is so ignorant. Come on, now, you can sing however

you want. It's art. You know what it's your If it's it's his

song, you can sing it out every one. He sounds too southern in

the song. So now he's a poser. Do you know that when people

talk and when people sing, they don't always sound the same. That's true.

I mean seriously, like over look at any European band, they all

sing English, English, American accent English. Yeah, they were right.

Yeah, the accent doesn't usually with rare exceptions, the accent doesn't usually come

from when someone's singing. Yeah, when they copy of Metallica song they try

and coffee it. How Metallica sings it, or Billy Joe Armstrong from Green

Day, he sounds like he's and he's from California, so it can work

that way too. I met the guy who played House. He could speak

perfect English, not it like he was born in Brooklyn. He's European,

he's British. He's actually when he talks in his regular voice, he's totally

British in his dialect. I think that's stupid. I think that that whole

thing is just stupid. I think they're just looking for something to latch onto

because he didn't turned out to be their boy. He hasn't. He flat.

He's denied that he's a conservative. He says he's more of a centrist.

Yeah, you know, he's totally denied that. So he's not playing

along with what they want. They're going to find new reasons to hate him.

He's a plant. He's talking about diversity, and really he was talking

about rich people just destroying poor people, doing everything they can to make money

and squeeze the money out of the poor people, but you know, never

going back to them. And he literally did say that. He was talking

about all of those people that were on that debate stage. He literally said,

right, I am talking about you. So their tick, now,

this was going to be their guy Man their new champion song and he's ruining

it for them. Yeah, it also but you know that's it is true.

It's one thing that's really gross in politics is that they just don't seem

to care about personal property rights. Like they're all about property rights until it's

somebody else's song. Like how many musicians have you seen? I couldn't even

think of a name to quantify it. How many musicians you hear about complaining?

So when those used there's my song and their rally and I never told

them they could, right, Oh yeah, that's happened so much billion times

because they never asked for permission. They just do it. The New York

Posts has an article Oliver Anthony is singing for all of us hometown salutes rich

Men of North rich Men North of Richmond. Phenomenon says. This is a

short article. It says here the men south of Richmond were on a high

when viral phenomenon Oliver Anthony made a surprise appearance at a street festival here Saturday

night. Anthony's rich Men North of Richmond is rocketed to number one on the

Billboard Heart one Hot one hundred, propelling at once unknown songwriter from south central

Virginia into the national onto the national stage, but he's staying close to his

roots. Uh, I'm gonna skip down. I don't care about that part,

okay, Oh, this is more about the show that he did recently.

I like the guy a bit more after this conversation. I'll say,

I like the fact that he's standing up for what he feels and he's not

letting other people take it and try and twist it into what they want.

Yeah, I'm not crazy. I'm certainly I'm definitely not okay with the fat

shaming and you know, trying to do the wellfish shaming. I think that's

that's but see, that's that's a low blow to be going to, especially

if you're trying to talk about the rich men and Richmond, why are you

talking about you know, those aren't rich men. But but it's also though

the backlash, see the backlash to the song now that's happening from the right.

It's another example of what I always talk about about, how we live

in this binary political culture where you have to be all the way on one

side or all the way on the other, or you just confuse you just

confuse people. Because here's an example of there shouldn't be any backlash coming from

the right. The song has several conservative tropes, so that doesn't mean so

if you're a conservative and you like the song because of that, then you

shouldn't be mad at the guy for saying one thing you don't like, or

because he doesn't have the accent that you thought that he had, or whatever

it is. You can still appreciate the song. You don't have to completely

turn on the guy just because you thought you thought he was all the way

completely with you, and now you're going, oh, maybe he's not really

conservative, maybe he's more a right leaning guy or whatever. So oh now

we have to be upset with him, Like, oh, tis tis Matt,

what are you ever thinking? I mean, it even not how this

works, It even affects art, it even affects music. You know,

this nastiness that exists, this polarization. This used to be that way.

But like just to watch, I'm looking at another process. Person goes where

did Oliver as an accent? Go? Also, why is he saying diversity

as our strength? Like how that's a bad sentence. Now, diversity is

a bad word. How dare you? Oh? How? Oh my?

Never, we should just take the statue of liberty, like we should just

send up a sandblaster to just stand off the book because you know, we're

not give me your poor you're tired, you're hungry masses. We're not that

melting pot anymore. That's not what people want. Apparently, at least these

people can. We just this is why we all need to get out and

vote and speak up and talk, because if you don't, they're gonna win.

And and when they win, every every every day, Joe loses,

in my opinion. In my opinion, I like the guy because he did

stand up and say, no, don't take my song. It's not about

you. In fact, you're the Actually it is about you, but not

in a good way. But I do like that, and I think the

song isn't bad. It's just the one fiction and his voice. Yeah,

a lot of people who came out because of course, again you have the

polarization, so you had all these uh conservatives online who championed the song.

So of course you have also all these people on the left who are condemning

the song and condemning him. They were, they're not condemning him anymore,

but you know, condemning the song. But not just not just the message

of the song, but saying, oh, he has no talent and all

this terrible stuff. And no, I think he's talented, and I actually

like his vocal delivery. I have no problem with any of that. We

have a call. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton. Unleash. Who's this?

Hey there, manage check? Is this? It's Jackson? Oh?

Jackson? How are you? Haven't heard from you in a while. I've

been doing splendid. I had to get my airmates fixed again because I had

a storm hit my damn router. A storm actually hit your router. Why

don't you keep it inside? Yeah, it hits the router and it knocked

off and it only worked on the TV for like a week. Oh my,

well that's horrible. I know. And the big thing is we're working

on a couple of other things I'm working with. I'm getting on LPFM very

soon. Oh very good, very good. Currently your station streams online?

Right? Or is it down because of the router? Now? I got

back up this morning. Oh good, good good. It took a week

and a weekend. Yeah, yeah, well very good. Where where exactly

are you again? What stayed are you in? I forget I'm in Georgia,

Georgia. Yes, yes, Georgia. That's a lot of a lot

going on in Georgia right now. But well the boring down there now right

going on. So now it's not raining good, that's good. But the

big thing is talking about the Trump went to prison and all that, or

Trump of the jel and Fulton County. That was a big kind of story.

And I saw his most shot. There was three of the most shots

there were posting one of his little mean face, one of the mean faced

the middle finger, and another one I saw. Well, there's only one

of those is authentic obviously, just the one with his mean face. I

think he looks mean. How do you think he looks? He just looks.

He looks looks and I don't want to say the word like piss or

something like that. Yeah, he looks angry. That's an angry Trump.

He's angry, angry. And I actually have a friend who lives in New

Hampshire. His name is Roy and he lives in some I know Roy,

Roy from Somersworth. Yeah, yeah, we all know each other here.

It's a small state. It is a small state. I'm gonna just st

right there on the right there on the line, your main and sure,

hang I hang out there occasionally. Roy is a great guy. We party.

I love listening to the show. Usually I usual listen on Facebook,

but I usually listen online when I'm at school or anything like that. Understand,

I understand. Now do you have do you have got back into school

on August third? August third? Wow? You get you go back early?

Huh. Yeah, it's my senior year of high school and I'm starting

an LPFM here. Yeah. Oh it's your senior year. Congratulations. Now

when does the so, when when does the FM start? Do you know?

Do you have a timetable possibly possibly in twenty twenty five or anything like

that. Okay, so it's a long term endeavor obviously, but yeah,

I have three years to build. Yeah. Yeah, No, that's cool

though that you're doing that. Good for you, man, that's great.

And we're broadcasting a classic country format, classic country, okay, fifties to

the nineties, but we do play two thousands. Oh okay. So,

and we're also I heeart as well. Excellent excellent, very good, very

good, which is easy to get on. I figured out it can be

yes, yes, now is uh so the station though, is currently for

people who want to find it. It's currently online, right, Yes,

I do three stations. Actually you have three online stations? I have three?

Oh wow, Well I do a classic kit. It's a top forty

of the classic country. Oh no kidding, Oh, very cool. How

do you find those? They're online? We do have a group page if

you want to write it down and tell people about it. It's uh,

it's it's CON thirty one Media Enterprises dot com con c O N CON thirty

one com c O M. M oh Colm at White Communications, Okay,

c O MM thirty one Media What Enterprises, Media Enterprises dot com. Yeah,

I'll check it out. I'll check it out tonight. Yeah, I'm

curious to see what you're doing. There's like forty other radio stations on there

and I work with Oh wow, Oh that's cool. Well you're keeping business

and some are and some are getting on the LPFM. One's on a part

of fifteen right now. But it's really cool. Yeah, excellent. Do

you ever do anything with shortwave? Uh? No, I do not.

I'm looking at w r m I right now. What's that? W RMI.

Wrm I is a shortwave radio station in Okay. Chuck Key Florida.

Wow, okay, I didn't know that really know that. It's it's it

goes across the whole United States. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.

No, very cool, very cool. Good have you? Do you have

any Do you have any opinions on this song rich Men North of Richmond by

Oliver Anthony? I did he we we are bit we are. We contact

the record label and we're able to get a cut from him, says hey,

this is Oliver, Oliver Ampthony, and this is my new song.

You know that of a rich man on the station. So I have that?

Oh? Very cool? Uh you? Uh so you like the song

and you're not mad at him about anything? No, I'm not. I'm

just mad at these record labels. You're trying to like control them. You

feel his record label is trying to control him. The No, the record

labels are trying to control them. They're trying to control him like a puppet.

Ah, a puppet of the label. M hmm, a puppet puppet,

like a pupp it like he want. He turned down an eight million

dollars deal right record company. I saw a notion one of my studies.

I saw I saw a search that said he was earning forty thousand a day

from the song and turned down an eight million dollars record deal. But I

don't know like where that's coming from. I did just find another quote from

him where he said that he's fat up with what he perceives to be the

weaponization of his music by both the right and the left. Hmm, well,

yeah, Actually the New York Post is to be poured to do it.

He wanted to be independent, so he has. He has been climbing

up the chart lately. Oh, he hit the top of the Billboard Hot

one hundred, I believe. Yeah. So we use a we use a

chart called media Base, okay, and he's number forty one on there.

Okay, on Mediabase. Yeah, like like like rust stakes to use it.

Oh yeah, no, I'm familiar with it. Yeah, absolutely,

Oh cool. Cool. Well, you should try to get him. You

should try to get him for an interview if I can, and I should

Pap Papa see you guys. Oh, we'd be happy to absolutely absolutely,

Well, very good, Uh Jackson, we are we are almost to the

end of the show, so we'll have to let you go. But I

appreciate the call. It's good to hear from you. You two, all

right, man, congratulations on everything. Bye bye, all right. That's

our that's our friend Jackson Harris from Georgia. He's the only Georgian we hear

from occasionally. I think I feel like ever Felt is regretfully sorry that they

goofed with their computer stuff and they have got it all figured out and would

like to join us on Thursday. Okay, all right, very good,

So they will be joining us then, okay, so yeah, so if

you're if you're just joining us ever Felt our guest today, great band from

Illinois. They had a bit of an an issue, so they're okay,

so they have rescheduled for Thursday. Very good, and I will tomorrow.

You have Norris Set, an interesting artist out of the UK. Yes,

yes, joining us via Skype of course. Yes, so I'll probably like

him to show up, but I don't think I can get the flight right.

Yeah, I'll have to end to today's show with this ever Felt song,

give people another taste of what they can expect on Thursday. So very

good. Yeah. I like their sound. I like their sound a lot.

I suppose if anyone wants to get them with a very quick call,

but it will have to be terse. The studio line is open. We

have a couple of minutes left six zo three two five zero six seven six

three two five zero six o seven. By the way, pretty interesting day,

just a little Mark Meadows taking the stand. I'm not sure where that

he's trying to get his he's trying to get his trial. I'm looking at

it now. That doesn't look like a decision has been made. But he

did, in fact spend some time on that stand. Yeah, he's trying

to get trying to get that removed from Georgia and right. But the reason

is because the President told him to do this. He's he's his defense is

the President told me to do it. Yeah, So isn't that kind of

like proving the point? Well, what's I mean? That's the part that's

throwing me. Is it feels like it's proving the point. I wonder if

it'll help him or not, if he even successfully gets it moved. I

you know, when it's not gonna, it's not gonna. When it came

to light that he was trying to do it, that he was trying to

get it moved from Georgia to federal court, my first thought was that he

was doing that because he thought, then if Trump does get reelected, he'd

be able to pardon him if he's found guilty. But then I realized that,

no, it doesn't work that way because even if the trial gets moved

to federal court, he's still charged in Georgia, so the president would still

not be able to to pardon him. So that actually doesn't help him.

Well, he's sure about that because he's using the undercolor of office, you

know, under the president's office, under his power. I did these things

right, that's his defense. But I'm saying if he's actually convicted, it

won't help him if it's in federal court versus Georgia court. If he's convicted,

he would still get sent to a state prison. Is that what you're

saying. No, I'm saying the president couldn't pardon who couldn't pardon him?

I'm not sure about that, because he'll still he'll still have been charged in

uh but because of the reason no, because it's vacated out of the state

to the federals, it would be a federal prosecution, not I don't know

from what I read, it doesn't matter because it because he was charged in

Georgia. Maybe so he still can't be pardoned federally. Maybe, but that

doesn't look like there's been any decision, just a lot of testifying and a

lot of very tired news reporters from what we could hear earlier. Yeah,

right, we're listening to the reports earlier, and you're hearing about people are

running in and out of overflow rooms trying to get in and hear what's going

on, and even seeing some of Trump's own attorneys for there in the audience

seeing what Meadows was saying too. Right, I'm not sure if it was

they were in I don't the way the woman said it on the on the

radio, it sounded like she was saying that Trump's attorney was in the overflow

room watching what was going on with Meadows and his testimony. Yeah, this

just gets so, it's crazy. It is which trials when no, wait,

there was a trial date set today for March ye for the federal case,

right, the January sixth case? Is that the one that's think so?

But I'm losing track. I'm losing I need a flow chart at this

point to keep track of the four different cases and who's where, and yeah,

what's interesting about the Meadows thing though, is isn't he kind of sort

of almost It's it's like he's admitting. It's like he's admitting to it by

saying, but the President told me to do it, right. Isn't he

actually admitting Yeah, I don't know, Yeah I did this, but the

President told me to right. I don't know that he denies anything. By

the way, I just saw this pop up, Joe the Plumber is dead.

I don't know if if anyone, if Peter had, or if anyone

on the Morning Show had Joe the Plumber and the death Pool, but probably

not. I don't think so. I'd forgotten about him, we'd forgotten about

the death Pool. He was dead at forty nine? Wow, yep,

what I don't know if that I'm not seeing. I'm looking to see here

how he died. It says that COVID. It just says after Oh oh

wow, pancreatic cancer. Oh no, that's yeah, that's a horrible that's

a horrible cancer. Didn't he get like his own talk show at one point

after he got famous during the two thousand and eight campaign. I'm not sure.

I'm I'm not sure. He had a pretty good fun run there for

a while. Joe the Plumber. Yep, all right, well kind of

like Oliver. No, that's too bad. What Oliver's dead already? No,

like the guy just got famous. No, you mean Oliver from the

Brady Bunch when they stop it. They did that episode where they killed him

off. No, a very special Brady Bunch they killed off Oliver. Yeah,

he was eaten by Tiger the dog. Oh, come on, after

he was hit by a car, Oliver, not Tiger, stop it.

And the Fluffy the cat was there, and yeah, they ate him,

stop it terrible they ate him. We're gonna do with you. All right,

we gotta go. Jenny, did you want to plug your website or

anything? You can keep track of what I'm doing and all the fights were

waging against healthcare to make sure that people get the care that they need at

Jencoffee dot com j E n n c O f e y dot com.

All right, very good, and if you miss any part of today's show

it we'll be up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot org and

on my website Matt Connerton dot com. And uh, that's gonna do it

for us. For now, We'll leave you with a little bit of ever

felt this is my favorite of the tracks they sent us. They got a

big, big sound. I love it and they will be with us on

Thursday. This is called Reach to close out today as Matt Connerton unleashed.

Talk to y'all a little bit later. Bye bye,

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