Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-12-23

I would like to welcome the brand new member of Cherry's Rock and Roll Army,

that tremendous Tod Supreme leader Matso Jimmy down Hey, welcome everybody, here

we go. It is that time again, Happy Tuesday. It is Matt

Connerton Unleashed and we are live from this studios of wm n H ninety five

point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel

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in Folk Show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Tuesday, September twelve,

two thousand twenty three. So nice to have you all with me.

By the way, that song that I opened with that is Don't let the

Music Stop. That is Mike Laughlin and acoustic performance of that that he did

that I was therefore recording actually many many years ago. But Mike is going

to be on the show with us Thursday. He's been on before and I've

done a lot of different shows with him over the years, so but really

looking forward to seeing him on Thursday. I think he's going to spend the

full two hours with us, and he's gonna bring his guitar and in the

second hour he's gonna play live for us in studio. Really looking forward to

that. But that'll be great. But I was thinking I should pull something

out of his and I love that song that is, don't let the Music

Stop. I don't remember if when he did that, only you know what.

I think that was from his band. He's been in some different bands.

He was in a band called Glorious Noise, and I think at the

time that he wrote that song. I think that's the band that he was

in. But that's that's just him by himself, him and his acoustic guitar,

and I just love that song so much, so I thought it'd be

cool to open with that because Michael be here Thursday, and I think later

in the show I might play something from the band Able Blood, because they

will be our musical guest on Friday. Today, we have no musical guest,

but we have plenty to talk about and tomorrow on the show. Of

course, on Wednesdays, I'm joined by Eric Pilcher My favorite conservative. But

tomorrow will be a little bit different. He'll actually be joining us in the

second hour instead of the first because there's another obligation. But we're clear for

guests tomorrow as well. So I figured out, you know, if he

I told him, you know, if you want to come on, if

you want to come on in the second hour, that is okay with me.

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Jay fed from the great state of Vermont, joins us and says good afternoon

everyone. Jenny is in the chat room, of course, and says shalom.

Peeps. Ryan LeMay, speaking of very talented musicians, joins us in

the Facebook live chat, and he tagged Mike Laughlin in the chat room to

let him know I was playing. I didn't tell Mike I was going to

play one of his songs today. I was just it was a spontaneous decision,

but that's one of my favorites of his. Mike is a great songwriter.

He's written a lot of great stuff, but I do love that song.

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of Vermont joins us and says, hey, guys. Also, Carol Zawarowitz

is in the Facebook lap chat and let's see. Pauly C joins us in

the chat room. Of course, poly C from retro Spectrum Radio with Paul

C, which you can hear every Friday night from eight to eleven pm here

on WM ANDH. I have the honor and privilege of being one of Paul's

co hosts on that show, along with Mike from Queen City Cabinetry and DJ

Steve. And today is Tuesday, which means tonight is the replay, So

if you missed it Friday night, you can get the replay tonight at seven

pm right here on WMNHU and Paul comments, Pony Soldier, cool name for

a band. Yeah, that's that clip that I played, and I put

the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme music behind it to make it funny, because that

makes it seem less frightening. We're gonna get into that today. We're gonna

have a little We're gonna have another little family meeting and have a little family

meeting on the show about about about Grandpa again again, we have to do

this. B Pinard joins us sense is good afternoon, Hello, welcome.

Uh let's see let me give you the number again six zho three two five

zero six zero seven if you'd like to call in six O three two five

six o seven. Yeah, we do have to. Uh. The audio

that I played, of course, that was from President Biden's trip. He's

been traveling. He's a globe trotter, you know, as he himself mentioned

around the world in five days or whatever the reference was he he made during

that press conference. But yeah, that was he told the story about It's

from a John Wayne movie. Oh, hello to Mike from Queen City Cabinetry.

He has joined us in the etch at room, one of our great

sponsors here at WM and and one of our co hosts on Retrospective Radio.

So, uh, yes, Biden was in Vietnam. He traveled for the

G twenty, went to Vietnam. He uh, he's he's had a lot

of meetings, a lot of traveling, and you know, he's uh going

to be eighty one in November. So I'm sure it's exhausting to him.

I'm sure it wears on him. But uh, look, we've we've got

to We're gonna have this conversation again because uh, and I I take no

joy in this, my friends, I really don't. I mean I try

to be funny about it. I try to make it a little bit funny

so we can all have ourselves a little bit of a laugh so we don't

get depressed. But it's not. I mean, that's uh, that's only

part of the audio that you know. Jenny made the comment in the chat

room. It's so cringe. It is. It is. And I again,

I take no joy in it. You know, what is something that

I haven't heard anyone else say. But I'll express this now before we get

deeper into the subject, is a part of what is frustrating about it is

I actually like the policy. The policy itself of you know, strengthening our

diplomatic ties are economic ties with China's neighbors. I think is a very good

idea, and I think the President, I will say, I think it's

done a good job with that, just says I think he's done a good

job with strengthening NATO in the face of Russia's invasion in Ukraine and so forth.

But I can't help but wonder if it ultimately does more harm than good

when we see what we saw at that press conference and the way it ended

too. I have the audio of that pulled up. The way the whole

thing ended got really weird, really weird if you haven't seen it. But

our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon. I thought Shannon was

on the line. Okay, never mind. But here's the thing. All

right, We're gonna have a family meeting. Gather around. Kids, Come

over here, Junior. We gotta talk. We gotta talk about Grandpa.

We gotta do this again. I'm so sorry, but somebody's got to take

the keys. Somebody has to take the car keys away from him. That's

it. I mean, it's just it's got to be done. Nobody wants

to do it. It's it's an uncomfortable conversation to have to have. He

means, well, uh, we don't want to upset him, but we

can't have this anymore. So so so there it is. Kids, I'm

the thing of me. I'm being dad and I'm talking to the kids about

what we're gonna have to do. And little Junior, I'm afraid you're gonna

have to be the one to have to talk with him. Why do I

have to do it? Dad? Well, I don't know. I guess

because you have a high voice. It'll be funny. If you do it

with your high voice, it'll make him laugh, and then he can't get

upset. Right. Actually, that is a good idea, right, If

you have to have an uncomfortable conversation with somebody and you don't want to upset

them, just talk to them in a in a in a comically high voice,

and then how can they get upset? Right, they can't get upset

if you make them laugh. I mean that would that would work for other

things too, right, wouldn't it? In theory, like, uh,

you know, like, uh, hi, missus Jones, this is uh

Sam, the private detective you hired to follow your husband. Oh hi,

Sam, why are you talking in such a high voice. Oh, I'm

speaking to you in a comically high voice because I have some very bad news

about what I found about your husband. But I don't want to upset you

because I want to make sure you pay my fee. You know, I

don't know, maybe that maybe that isn't such a good idea, but no,

listen, uh, Like I said, I like the I like the

policy. I like the strategy I do, strengthening our our ties with those

in China's neighborhood. I think it's great. It's a great idea. But

when when I see here, here's the thing though, so and I watched

the whole thing. I'm gonna play a little bit more audio from it in

a second. But one of the things that Biden was asked, uh,

you know, obviously Biden was asked about China, spoke about China, and

he was very sort of, you know, almost conciliatory, you know,

saying, well, we're not you know, we don't want to contain China.

We're not trying to hurt China. Uh, we just want China to

deal with us squarely, or however he put it. He probably said something

folksy like he does. I don't know, I don't even remember it,

but I'm just thinking. So again, I like the policy of saying we're

going to strengthen our diplomatic and economic ties with China's neighbors, like Vietnam,

Like having the leaders of South Korea and Japan recently come to come to Washington.

I thought that was great. That's another great example of this. So

the strategy is very sound. And I do commend him for that. I

do, but I can't help but wonder when I see him at this press

conference. See, here's the thing in order for all of this to work.

And I'm gonna say something here that's this is the kind of thing you

would normally hear someone more sort of right wing say. And I'm not a

right wing guy, as you know, but but I'm gonna say this because

this is just at this point in my life, this is just how I

feel about it. In order for all of this to work, so say,

for example, a specific example, in order for us to continue to

be able to prevent and discourage, I should say, not prevent, but

discouraged China from moving on Taiwan. America has to be feared. Now,

there was a point, there was a time when I wouldn't have said something

like that because it almost sounds warmongerish, right, But it's just, you

know, I think I take a little bit of a different view of it

as I get older, and I realize that, no, it's not enough.

If we want to maintain our status as the world's last remaining superpower,

we need to be feared. It's not just enough to be respected. We

need to be feared. And I kind of had that revelation when I'm watching

this press conference and I'm watching President Biden, and I'm thinking, there is

no way in hell Xi Jingping or Kim Jung un, or any of these

guys whatever fear that. Man. Don't get me wrong again, I'm fine

with him saying we're not trying to hurt China, We're not even necessarily trying

to contain China. You can say all of that, because that's basically true.

It's not like we're looking to start a war with China. Okay,

fine, but you also have to follow that up with but we're going to

be very very firm about X Y and Z. X might be can't move

on Taiwan. Why might be you have to stop stealing American intellectual property,

and Z might be you have to get the hell away from Russia. Not

geographically, of course, I'm not saying China has to move further away from

Russia. I'm just saying, you know, don't be so cozy with Putin,

you know, or whatever it is. You know, we're going to

insist on these things, so we're not trying to hurt China. In fact,

biden't even went a little bit further and said when China does well,

it's better for all of us economically. And I wouldn't have said that that.

I wouldn't have said that. Now, he's not technically wrong in the

sense that our economies are so intertwined in terms of trade and other things,

so that's not necessarily wrong. Because if China's economy, which is already struggling,

if it goes even more into the tank than it is, that that

could actually harm all of us. So he's not wrong. But I wouldn't

have said that, or I wouldn't have said it that way. But it

was a little it was a little too conciliatory for me. Again. It

was like that, like you know, Grandpa saying, you know, I

don't I don't want to hurt you. I'm just I'm trying to. I'm

just I'm telling you that I'm doing this for your own good. You know.

Uh uh. It's not good. It's just not good. The way

that it ended, by the way, was really here. I'll play this

clip if you haven't heard it to me. If you don't have a game

plan, he may have a game plan. He just hasn't shar hang on,

guys, I'm sorry. I think I think I missed the very beginning

of that, or maybe it maybe the clip just starts that way. Oh,

it just starts that way. Okay. If you don't have a game

plan, he may have a game plan, he just hasn't shared it with

me. By the way, he's talking about Jing Ping in that part.

But I tell you what, I don't know about you. But I'm going

to go to bed. We talked about we talked about at the conference overall.

We talked about stability. We talked about making sure that the third world,

the excuse me, third world, the the the U, the Southern

Hemisphere had access to change. It had access. It wasn't confrontation at all.

Thank thank you everybody. This sends account press conference. Thanks everyone,

thank you. Just to be clear, this music that's playing, I didn't

edit that in crazy with every person I met with smooth jazz. Okay,

yeah, that's again for anyone who doesn't know, if you haven't seen The

Clipper heard it before. I didn't edit that in to be funny, I

did with the Curb Your Enthusiasm music earlier that I did not edit. That's

that's what happened. They played him off like they do at an award ceremony,

like at the at the Oscars or something, if you've been rambling,

rambling a little too long, thanking too many people trying to save the world

while you're at the at the podium, when really everyone just wants to see

you take your stupid award and go bring up the next contestant. I don't

know, but the point is, but it's it's just who I don't even

know who who it was who interrupted him and said that's it. But that

was very awkward. We have a call. HI, welcome to Matt Connerton

unleashed. Who is this? It's John C. Hawkwood. Hello, what

is the C stand for John s ss air? Huh that's s's air uss

are do you buddy? Oh? I don't think there's a C in there?

Oh C C C P Oh there you you know what? I knew

that too, and I didn't I didn't connect the dots or I didn't connect

to the cs. When you're a brilliant linguist like me. Was a flawless

pronunciation of Russian. I'm sure I can found anybody, even a Russian speaker.

Wow, is someday you have to come on the show and tell us

all your secrets. I think you couldn't hold them all by no, no,

you t you T is a lot of stuff. Well, we'll put

it behind a paywall or something, and so it's not like just anyone can

get to it. We'll make a lot of money, I think. But

I would like to raise a point. Do you think that when you're dealing

with the foreign countries that are not have no, they are not in the

leaders as well as the people are not in culturated in the romance that America

tells itself that they believe that Joe Biden actually is a powerful person other than

a figurehead. Well, I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.

So you're saying that you that you believe that these leaders assume that Biden

is a figurehead and not actually in charge. Is that what you're saying.

Well, I remember in the seventies when the people from the Soviet Union would

give a process of like the nineteen eighty election, it was basically that the

presidential candidates are chosen beforehand, which we've seen increasingly is true. The democratic

process in the United States is hardly well as the economists would call it.

It's a flawed democracy, with Canada being a much better democracy according to the

economists, since it is a parliamentary system. But you know, somebody like

Jimmy Carter is vetted by Rockefell, this Trilateral Commission, which in the time

of the seventies they didn't have the term conspiracy theorists because so many conspiracies turned

out to be true and because people were being charged with conspiracy all the time

by the federal and state government. Very easy thing to prove by the way,

in court at conspiracy, as our good deer of former Eater will probably

be finding out, much to his chagrin, soon. Huh, I would

say so, I wouldn't think that she would think that Biden is the power

you've seen him to trump to his power was circumscribed by the people around them.

So for that reason, then are you arguing that it really kind of

doesn't matter in terms of how Biden looks on the world stage telling stories from

a John Wayne movie that probably most people in America haven't even seen, let

alone in Hanoi. If I was there and talking about John Wayne said to

the Indian right, if I was in your studio now and there's a camera

me, I would be very I get my hat off in front of my

face, trying to stop smirking. Yeah. I think at this point that

everybody had his bread and before this it's like God, damn, huh,

something's wrong with the United States. Yeah, but when you're dealing with the

United States, you're just not dealing with these fools that call themselves presidents.

You're dealing with these mighty international corporations that are the United States and the government.

I don't think saying that is any as controversial there have been in the

seventies. I mean, there are very powerful individuals in business and we're not

talking about like the mosques. We're talking about more established people like heads of

defense contractors, heads of banks. The one thing the United States still controls

is the international system of payments. You know, when you had detant was

the Soviet Union. The one thing the United States would never allow is for

Eastern Bloc in Russia to become integrated with the international system of payments, which

severely hampered their economy. I know this is very boring and everything. No,

you see, I think I kind of becoming incorporated, you know,

through the World Trade Organization, through the various Bank of International Settle b iis,

but Bank of International Settlements as such. But I you think that,

Well, wasn't even there was he? No? Uh. China and Russia

both had a presence at the G twenty, but they did not send h

G and Putin both did not go. They sent a lower level people.

Z deliberately. Well, we didn't expect put In the show upon he does

some international restaurants. Yeah, no way in hell Putin was gonna be there.

I was actually surprised that she didn't go. But yeah, Putin I

assumed wouldn't be going, right, And if he leaves Russia, he might

never get back in right right, And yeah, it's gonna might be another

tsar there in the very next day. But he did it, from what

I've read to you know, to insult the United States. But yeah,

I mean it's kind of embarrassing. You know, he's an old thought.

He always embarrassed himself speaking well, I mean, he's always been gaff prone.

But this is, uh, this is getting pretty bad. And you

know, and I remember too, that's the second time he's told the dog

Faced Pony Soldiers story from that John Wayne movie. He did that back when

he was campaigning. He said that to a college student who I'm sure had

no idea what the hell he was talking about, and probably hardly anyone in

the room did either. It was very very but he's uh. And the

way this ended, too, like is somebody just interrupts him and says,

okay, we gotta go, and and that that jazz music starts playing.

The whole thing is so bizarre. Well, you know, he took about

fifteen seconds he's going to ask somebody a question, and then he couldn't ask

it. He said, I'm doing what I'm told or sometimes, Yeah,

who's all very bizarre. He shouldn't be allowed to do press conferences. They

kept breaking from press conferences and yeah depressed. You're right, so you know

he did this hard of hearing act. Yeah, you're right, I remember

that now. Yes, yes, they'd have him. Uh. They tried

to limit from what I recall, Uh, they tried to limit his interactions

with the press to Uh. He'd be walking to the helicopter and uh and

and he'd and people, you know, they'd be yelling questions at him.

But of course the helicopter is loud, it's turned on, and he just

uh, he just got a shrug and wave. He'd do the the Reagan

wave and he kept on the helicopter and that was it. That was pretty

much. Uh. I can't remember though John did he did Reagan early in

his presidency. Did he do press conferences and then they phased that out or

did he just never really do them? He did fewers press conferences, if

I remember correctly. And memories a strange thing like I probably a year or

two remember finding the magic bullet myself don until for the four year old toddler.

But you know, just like we were all at Club fifty four back

in nineteen seventy nine, Studio Gratudo disgraced herself Studio fifty four. Those were

good times, Studio fifty four. That yes, see how memory failed.

Yeah, but in nineteen eighty four, the first presidential debate with the less

than stunning opposition of mister Mondale, the former vice president, he had humiliated

himself and seemed well, we'd say in hightsight, afflicted with Alzheimer's or dementia

or something. But he recovered for the subsequent debate, and they limited him

and his interactions after that. But that's not unusual with the president that well,

the times were different. But FDR as he aged, you know,

he met he didn't. He didn't meet many people in the last couple of

years years. I mean, Harry Truman only met him once. Of course

he was dying. But by the way, the market Melanie and the charem

says, toddlers are kids aged one to two. So a four year old

toddler makes no sense just saying, okay, a four year old type anymore.

You have no children, so you wouldn't know this. I have no

children either, so I didn't even know that. John. So I don't

feel better. I once said, what's the I once you asked my sister

as three kids and grandkids, what's when does a todd they become a type?

Because you've gotta remember we were born in the fifties. Uh, we

were Eisenhowe's children, so well, they still used old colloquialism like types.

You know. Yeah, there's little tykes well rhymes with ike. When when

did you cease being a type? You can ask Melanie that m I don't

think anyone from my generation uses that term tyke, but I've heard it.

But I think that people there was there was a great deal of hostility to

the United States and they're always has been because it's a gemanistic power, which

goes with any power. I mean, it's not a moral you know,

we might we can sit back and talk about the morality of a head em

andy and imperialism, but the fact is, when you're a power, very

powerful country like Britain for two hundred years and we took over the mantle in

nineteen forty four, Bretton Wood, if you just exert your power. But

China has long bridled against the Western imperialism. The United States had a close

relationship with China because of Christian missionaries but you once you had the Communist Revolution

in the nineteen forty nine, you know, we supported Chang Kai Sheik,

who was a utterly corrupt, obscenely corrupt war lord who spent more time attacking

mios communist partisans during the War with China, which lasted from thirty one to

forty five for the Chinese then he did fighting the Japanese, who had,

you know, first intervened in China nineteen thirty one. And that's the regime

that Taiwan represents, the nationalist Chinese who had thoroughly bribed the Republican Party and

many Democrats. But Nixon, part of Watergate, those part of the reverberations

of Watergate was the bribery of politicians by the nationalist Chinese. And they even

bribed the Billy Carter, so you know, their bipartisan that was the but

in fact that reached up and touched a New Hampshire congressman family. Although we

won't go into the but I'm sure they see this in China as and other

countries that are even like India. We're getting a close relationship with them,

but they've always been wary of us because we didn't believe in a non aligned

movement. So Nehru was the founder of India always wanted to be non aligned

because of the reaction against British imperialism. Remember that FDR was against colonialism,

imperialism, one to break up the British Empire. So you would think that

in we would have a leg up. But then we supported the colonial wars

the French and Indo China, and then we took over the war. But

the Indians are wary of us. You know, they know what the United

States, the Anglo Americans are an Anglo American tradition. I bet they probably

see this as a metaphor for the decline of United States, the geminy.

But you know, yeah, we're still the one superpower. You know,

well, we have the corporate, the corporate, the financial muscle. You

do you you feel that we're still the one remaining superpower. You don't think

we're in a multipolar world with Russia and China. Russia's We've we have.

We staged a coup in twenty fourteen in Kia and overthrew the regime, the

pro Russian regime, and people I know were there since there was no trouble

until then. But the United States is tied Russia down. Russia has nuclear

weapons, but it's like Harry Truman said about Korea, you have you can

have nuclear weapons, but you can't use them. Yeah, I mean that

wouldn't have stopped the wart. Yeah, but Eisenhower. More, that has

come out every two things. The Korean War ended. Eisenhower was elected an

inaugurated in January twenty than fifty three. The war ends about June, but

Stalin died around March, so that was a big factor. But there were

stories, and I think they've been substantiated now that I told the new regime

in Russia, because you know, when you lose a dictator like that,

everything's kind of in Chaoskushav established himself crucialva Ukraine, who gave cream Crimea to

Ukraine, which causes, you know, fifty five years later, sixty years

later in trouble. Yeah, not just imperialism. But they say I probably

had threatened to use the atomic bomb, even though we didn't have a monopoly

on it anymoth More, they exploded their first nuke in forty nine, but

we developed the H bomb, and the Russians new Eisenhower, they knew him

personally, you know, so they took him seriously. But it was also

the Russian Soviet regime was by the week. But I mean you're talking about

regimes like Russia or when I was in the just were a join the army.

You had three ancient guys in a row after Bresnap kicked off. They

know all about sharontocracy. Yeah, who was it? Was it? And

drop off Uri and drop off who was the last? Who he who one

of the three? Yeah he was, He was in and out of there

really quick, right like he became the uh that he died and he died.

He died within like months, right, Yeah, three of them went

really quick, you know, Yeah, three of them went really really quick.

Yeah. But once again that that shows you the Soviet Union was ready

to collapse. Although me and other people that had dealt with Russian you know,

the Soviet Union, we're surprised when it happened, but it happened,

right, But then you get you get a rump version of the Soviet Union

eventually, because that's the only reality that culture knows. But the Chinese,

you know, it's it's embarrassing and humiliating. But if Trump was there,

how we would be embarrassed? We'd be laughing about what he had said.

Well, Trump wouldn't have Trump wouldn't have Well, he would have gone at

the G twenty, but he wouldn't have done much more. I mean,

he That's the thing I was saying earlier. I don't know. I don't

know how long you were listening to. I don't know if you're what I

was saying earlier, But I said, you know, I like the policy,

I like the strategy of y. Yeah, of what Biden is doing.

I just but the presentation worries me. And I'm worried that the presentation

of it actually does us more arm than good. Yes, but people that

were higher up in things that in the government than I was. But who

I know said that the Soviets absolutely respected James Baker when he was a Secretary

of State on the George Bush, they said, and they did not.

Of course, once again it was we didn't really quite know is on the

verge of collapse itself, right, and indeed it started collapsing in eighteen well

when the East Germany and the Warsaw Pack started collapsing. But they absolutely respected

his word and they knew that when he said something he wasn't f bombing around,

right. And the one thing about what I've heard some Kissinger and other

people the Chinese, The Chinese don't f bomb around either. They don't really

play games, yeah, you know, laying games as part of Henry Kissinger's

whole life. You know, he's you know, but you don't view these

he was, You don't view the you don't diplomacy. But you don't view

China as an as an emerging uh. I mean, there's a lot of

different opinions. You don't view China as an emergent superpower on par or well

not I shouldn't say on par because I know their economy is struggling, but

potentially on par with the United States. Well, you have to remember that

the nineties, we were all told that Japan was going to overthrow the United

States. That's true. Japan had no military power because they had been stripped,

and we provide the military power if we were if it wasn't for NATO,

which you know I'm against, and the expansion of NATO was uh.

But you know, occupying Germany's actually a good business because the Germans would be

out of again in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. They'd be

they'd be zig hiling again, you know, and snapping those boots right across

the pollen border. But that's just an opinion. But uh, it's funny.

You know, Kushav said that the West would sell the rope that hung

them. But of course Russians aren't Chinese. It's like we gave chin China

the rope to destroy the United States. But you know, all the brands

that they don't really exist anymore that by the seventies and eighties were Japanese.

Those were all Americans. When I was a little kid, we moved all

the factories to Japan because it was a cheaper labor. And then there was

moved to Korea, including the Japanese moved to Korea, then moved to China

and India. So capitalism as a way of you know, eating itself a

lot. Britain when I was a kid was dying most of the well.

World War One bankrupted Britain and by nineteen forty they didn't even have the gold

reserves to wage a war. That's FDR was the great man of the twentieth

century. He saved Britain and by saving Britain, he defeated the Soviet defeat,

not the Soviet Union, carden the Nazi Germany. Yeah, because they

were broke. The thing that they end. If you watch British movies from

the fifties and early sixties, they actually it's about working class people that just

don't like their lives. But they're going to facts like out the Great actor

Albert Sinney and Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, which is very famous British novel

of nineteen sixty sixty one, but working class live. He's working at a

bicycle factory. My sister still has the British bicycle that she had as a

girl. And but by the end of the sixties, except for like beetles

and the rolling stones, they had no exports at all because they took their

capital and rather than invested into their ancient factories which are older than even in

the ones of the here in the Northeast, so they predate us, like

Manchester in England pre dates Manchester and in New Hampshire. They moved their capital

overseas to get a higher return. And when I first moved went to Britain

in eighty two, my brother was stationed in the Air Force. It was

like almost the third world country really was, but it was like stecting back

into the forties. Yeah, where else would you go to German West Germany

and France? It was first World, but it wasn't quite you know,

even in the United States. I would say it was the advanced society in

the early eighties. I'm not sure if that's true. Like, I guess

you could go to one of these Arabic principalities and people say that the buildings,

the hotels and everything are just so fabulous. Yea, even though they're

ridiculous in a way because look where they are, right, They like Montreal

in yearly seventies was a modern city. But if you could compare it to

an Arab one of these new Arab cities or Chinese cities, it looks kind

of old, you know, in easing. Yeah might not to me.

Who's an old barn who hasn't been there? Well, because Montreal was a

city that was built after World War Two. Well, you know, you

said, you said a third world, didn't also refer to Vietnam as the

third World, and then tried to correct himself, But it had already it

had already come tumbling out of his mouth. Well, I don't think that,

you know, I don't think that most cultures, you know, they've

got enough to b I tc h about without the petty a little law,

you know, microaggressions of saying third world. Oh, I know, you

know, what is it? The developing world? Right, and even that's

gone, it's it was Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

But it might seem like a small thing, but it's another log on the

fire, the fire of the flames of embarrassing. When you think about history,

just think about you know, I was in therapy with guys in Vietnam

from the Vietnam War. Where was the G twenty held Hanoy I'm I'm I'm

young enough to remember that North Vietnam is a satanic country that was waging a

war or against the grave and democratic people's south of it. In South Vietnam,

a completely artificial country that was created by the United States when it decided

to ignore the Geneva Accords and Denai Ho Chi Min his his one hit the

referendum. He won. And now we're there, you know, well,

we're making were we're making. Like I said, I like the strategy.

I like making friends with everybody in China's neighborhood. I think that's a good

thing. I just don't think Biden is the right Uh got to be Uh,

why shouldn't China. Why shouldn't China have the right to do that in

their own backyard? Why shouldn't China have the right right? Why shouldn't the

because they're not the democracy? Yeah, most of those countries aren't. Well,

that's true. I didn't. I didn't realize until recently, and I

I've done a little bit of reading about it. How and this seems to

be a trend. I mean you see it in India as well, But

apparently Vietnam is not not exactly not exactly a free press in Vietnam in terms

of how they treat their journalists, And it's similar to how Moody has treated

journalists in India. And it does seem to be the case that the people

who were strengthening are diplomatic, if not probably even more so actually economic ties

with They've got some they've got some some things to improve upon, but but

they're not going to improve upon it because authoritarianism and those cultures work. Yeah,

just like Russia, Ukraine too, and countries there have never known any

way shape form any type of democracy. It's not part of their culture.

They never had the rule of law. They never even had law. Law

was what, you know, bizarre are ukzy uk se. He just says

what it is and that's it. You can't really find there's no developed there's

no case law in Soviet Union or Russia. And I'm sure that's true in

Ukraine too, which was so similar, you know, so similar, and

the only real lawyers they'd have were human rights lawyers might wind up killed and

they would make everything into a human rights offense to try to appeal to the

European Union or something. But so you're talking about cultures that have no democracy,

and you're Hungary is an authoritarian country. Poland is an authoritarian country.

Poland has is run by a shadow dictator in a committee of safety that took

the rule of law and just you know, got ard of it virtually.

But look at Poland. Poland was part of Russia to one nineteen eighteen.

Then it was conquered. Then it was you know, why would democracy work.

It doesn't even work here in the United States. Well, we don't

get to vote, we don't even get to we don't even get to vote

for president here in New Hampshire during our own primary. I guess because the

president will put his name on right. Well that's a yeah. Well I

suppose he has no delegates. Well let's see, but remember when Bernie Sanders

won New Hampshire by sixty percent of the vote, he only got a third

of the delegates because people don't understand there are three tiers where delegates are chosen,

and that was just tier one. Are you talking about another two tiers

were controlled by the party. Are you talking about in twenty sixteen or twenty

twenty? Yeah? Twenty sixteen, yeah, yeah, I'm sure twenty fifteen

he got even less because he he barely won that one. Did I ask

you about if we talked about Mark Halper and what he said on Michael Smerconish's

radio show that Biden actually has decided not to run. He's just waiting until

the right time to let it out. I can't remember if you and I

talked about that. Yes, and we did, And as I pointed out,

he said the exact same thing in twenty nineteen that he's going to drop

out of the twenty twenty presidential election. It seems, you know, when

you're a writer. You have all this crap in your head and it makes

it easier to write stuff. I call it a boiler plate. So so

it's just if you're writing a sports article, man, the article's already half

written before you ever sit down. You know, are you saying that if

you've written in a thousand time? Oh? So are you saying that about

Halper? And then you think he just yeah, this is his stick Okay,

because I have noticed nothing he said on Superconishus show has filtered through the

rest of mainstream media. It's and I'm kind of surprised, but maybe I

shouldn't be. Well, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on

in the media. We just found some Meta is not allowing anybody to search

for the word COVID on its new Twitter like platform lest anybody gets a bad

information, So you don't get any information at all. Oh, I didn't

know that. I'm not on there yet, the new post. But you

know, the exciting news, of course, is about our illustrious form or

first Magister to the Republic, who I guess there's overwhelming evidence that he knew

that the election. There was no election fraud, ample ample evidence, which

is probably why we have to impeach Joe Budden. Well, as Chris Chrissie

has pointed out, when when Trump came out of two thirty in the morning

and said this election was stolen from us, he even if it was true,

he would have no way of knowing at that moment, no data whatsoever

to go on nothing. So, yeah, of course he knew he had

blast, of course, but there are ample evidence given in court cases and

testimony now in front of Congress, and that that he knew that the election

was not right stolen right, that that the enough people had told him it

wasn't gave him specific you know, right up until January fourth, you know,

they're telling telling him. Yeah, Bill Barr told him. Bill Barr

told him flat out, it's it's it's bs there's nothing here, you know,

told him, told him straight he said, you know, I can't

say the word, but you know he called it BSh. He'll be convicted

of a felony by what do you think, June or July at twenty twenty

four. Oh, who knows, I don't know. I mean, it's

not gonna matter. He's gonna be the nominee, don't matter what. But

uh, I don't know, they might. I don't know. Why wouldn't

he be can happen in the year. Yeah, he's gonna be. I

firmly believe he's going to be the nominee. I I and and listen,

if if Biden is going to stay in UH, he may Trump may very

well be the next president. I mean, you know, I always say

we're just one Mitch McConnell moment away, uh from UH from Biden losing to

Trump. It's It's true. I I firmly believe that if if uh,

and and after seeing Biden's performance in HANOI, I think I think that Mitch

McConnell moment might be coming down the pike. Yeah, but who's going to

One of the reasons, there's the famous story that Nixon said that he picked

active because nobody would assassinate him, right and uh Dick Dick Nixon, who

was in Dallas the day that Jay his pal John Kennedy he was shot,

and would harass CIA director Robs Richard Helms by bringing it up about John Kennedy

getting killed. So even Dick Nixon thought the CIA had something to do with

it, and they probably were essential and easing him out the door too,

you know, I mean, what was the guy It was E. Howard

Hunt, the guy who wrote the Detective novels and then screwed up the Watergate

burglary. Yeah, he had been a director of a dirty operations on under

Dick Bissell in the CIA. But I mean, you know, I've heard

people say that he picked h he picked the Vike's president. I can't even

remember her name. I actually know it, Kamela Harris because you know,

you know, I associate with Progresses in California, and she did not have

a good reputation, let's put it that way, right, and uh,

And as you can see, she's a real non anthony, a very abracive

person to begin with. But nobody wants to see her as president. I

I did see over the weekend, so on Sunday she was interviewed. I

forget the name of the journalists who interviewed her on Face the Nation on CBS,

and she she just she doesn't say anything. But when I I say

she doesn't say anything, I don't mean it in the way that. Yeah,

you know, lots of politicians talk a lot but don't say anything.

They use a lot of words without actually saying anything, but she literally doesn't

say much like she she's she's asked a question and she gives relatively short,

unsatisfying answers, and there's just nothing there. It's kind of bizarre. I

don't think I've ever seen anyone quite like her. But also I don't remember

her being like that during the twenty twenty campaign. She almost comes across like

she's just kind of bored with the whole thing. Does that make sense?

Like leash, she's on a short leash, because if she runs her mouth,

she she puts her foot in it. She says some pretty outrageous things

herself. You know, nothing on the equivalent of of Trump. I mean,

Trump is like you know, Jimmy Hendrix is to electric guitarists, to

politicians with foot in the mouth disease. You know, he's the king what

Elvis wants to rock and roll. Yeah, but she was just a person

with Willie Brown's girlfriend got elected. Was she the DA And then she parlayed

into California Attorney general, which is an elected position because California became a one

party state by the year two thousands, And you know, she's just there.

You know, the old days, the vice president was just some non

entathy that they many of the presidents for it too, you know, right,

Well, I always wasn't until I was just gonna say, I always

say that it seems like every vice president who to a large degree kind of

fades into the background. But so I don't hold that against her when people

say, oh, well, where is she, Well, she's where a

vice president typically ends up for whatever reason, they fade into the background.

And I guess there are reasons for that. But but but yeah, when

but when she does interact with the media, it's like this, it's it's

just like I said, it seems like she's just kind of over it.

Like I don't know if she even wants to be president. She just seems

like she's, uh, I don't know, wants to be president. I

don't know she I don't know what she wants. She doesn't seem to me

like she wants to be president. She seems like she just wants to I

don't know. I don't know. I just I saw that interview and it's

like, this is nothing here. Yeah, but that's who she is.

Yeah, I guess, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't matter

who's president really in many ways, because they are just a figurehead. He

developed the cabinet government. Yeah, that's why you could have like inconsequential Well,

I'm simplifying things to degree. Even Abraham Lincoln, who's supposed that we

got to a dictator because of the war the repel all renamed the Civil War

in the late eighteen nineties for the sake of you know, comedy between the

two It's not comedy comedy, right, sake of good relations between the two

sections. And because the New York and Boston banks and Philadelphia banks wanted to

develop, you know, get back down there and start look, you know,

squeezing every last buck they could out of the South and all of its

resources. He ruled with a cabinet. I mean, Doris Goodwin was it

grs Kern's Goodwin wrote the book, but was it about e cabinet of each?

I can't remember the title that Spielberg made that wonderful movie Lincoln out of.

Because he had the deal with with people that represented different wings of the

Republican Party, like Seward, who was represented the abolitionists. And so you've

always had the thing of you know, the cabinet government, something we get

from England and parliamentary system, the English parliamentary system, the prime minister,

and but by the time of Eddy Roosevelt, then Wilson, World War One

and that FDR, you've got the imperial presidency, which you know, Truman

was an imperial president, where they started ruling by executive order and stuff because

of the complexity of things. But you see, if you have a weakling

as president, it's not a good thing. Because you know, Jimmy Carter

was a very fine human being. He still is, but he's a lawsy

president. He's just inexperience. But Reagan had an excellent cabinet and he had

one of the best people as his chief of staff. Remember Jim Baker was

his chief of staff. Then he became Secretary the Treasury. When Jim Baker

was was Reagan's chief step in the first term, they managed to get all

that legislation through which was quite i wouldn't say radical, but somewhat revolutionary,

and that it did curb the old, you know, new deal, fair

deal type of government to the philosophy. Then he became Secretary of the Treasury

in the second term and you had the big economic upturn, and then he

was a Secretary of State under the first George Bush. So he's quite a

remarkable person. And Caspar Weinberger was an excellent, uh secretary of Defense.

The problem with the Trump is, you know, Jesus age, you know,

what do you mean? Cabinet? Only the best people, the best

people, only the best people, what do you mean? Yeah? The

first pre exisite. You can't be taller than the right, which when you're

six three, if he is sixty back, man, he's kind of easy.

Bars. Yeah, he he topped out at six three. I don't

think he's six three anymore. At at at seventy seven years old, nobody's

six three. But uh, oh, come on, he was done in

Georgia. He was six three in Georgia. Yeah, when he reigned him

Oh right, and what was he two hundred and fifteen pounds? I think

pretty amazing. Yes, the dude's a shape shifter. I'll tell you it's

remarkable. Yeah, he's many things, right, that's right. Well,

John, okay, Matt, I will give you back your show from Professor

Hopwood. Well, I frustrated college lecturer. Well, I appreciate the call.

Always nice here for me with my friend, But I think that the

Chinese even with the startering old fire. You know, they realize that they've

got a deal with I assume there are competent people, you know, in

his cabinet. I haven't seen anything that indicates contrary to that, right right,

all right, okay, take care, all right, John, thanks

for the call. Bye bye bye, all right. Always nice to you.

I always learned things. We all learn things from John Hopwood, Ronoferverro

in the chat room said, h Hoppy Baby, you never cease to amaze

me walking history book. No, I've always said John has more knowledge in

his head than almost anybody I've I've ever met, and we we do always

learn from him. Uh, let's we are past stop there, let's take

a break. I'm gonna play a couple of quick songs and I'm gonna play

another song from Mike Laughlin his band Glorious Noise called Red Letter Day and and

I'm also going to play something from Sepsis lead lines great track because I see

Hans Smith from the band Sepsis in the Facebook latch at with us. Hello

Hans. He called the show for the first time last week. It was

nice year from him. But yeah, so we'll play a couple of things

and then show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we will be

back with our number two numerow dose of Matt Connerton unleashed on the Suesday afternoon.

Don't go away, there is plenty more to come. Our thoughts and

prayers were the people in Morocco and our friend Kim Mohammed seven six, I

should say, and his administer, my administration, including a Secretary of State

Lincoln as a twenty we at the G twenty there was sufficient agreement in the

room on the need for Jess for justin lasting peace. And I hope that

I think that primacter she I mean she has some some difficulties right now,

okay, I mean increase the third world, the third world, the global

South capacity to grow. If everybody in the world had a job they got

up in the morning and one to go to and thought they and they could

put three spears on the table for their family, no matter where they live,

the whole world, they've got her off. Uh sorry, if they're

in fact able to generate significant capacity to absorb to prevent carbon from being released

in the air, that uh pipeline of that railroad we're talking about going across

from the Middle from India throughout the Middle East. So I have not I

have not given up at all on the notion that we're going to be able

to you know, how can I say it? I think, for example,

the consequence of what we've done, we're the most, we have the

most, we have the strongest economy in the world today. Right now today

the United States America as the strongest economy in the world, in the world.

And there's my My brother loves having there's famous lines some movies that he

always quotes, you know, and what one of them is there is there's

a movie about John Wayne is an Indian scout and they're trying to get the

I think it's a patch of one of the great tribe and the Indian scout.

The Indian looks at John Wayne and it's points of the Union. Asso

says, he's a lion, dog faced pony soldier. I see, I'm

just following my orders here. Uh I met with his number two persons here

and in excuse me in uh India today. I don't anyway. I just

think that there are other things on leaders' minds and they respond to what's neiss

of time and look, nobody likes having but I tell you what I don't

know about you. But I'm gonna go to bed. I would like to

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By the way, the songs that I played going into the break,

I played Red Letter Day from my friend Mike Laughlin, who's going to be

here with us in studio live on Thursday, and I also played bleed Lines

from the band Sepsis. I saw Hans Smith in the Facebook live chat from

the band, and I said, I'll play some Sepsis today, But yeah,

Mike Laughlin will be here on Thursday. Really looking forward to that.

Tomorrow, of course, is Wednesday, which means I'll be joined by my

favorite conservative Eric Pilcher all the way from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, skyping in.

But a little bit of a different thing this week. He's going to

be skyping in during the second hour instead of the first hour because he has

another commitment during the first hour. But I said, yeah, that's fine,

So we've got Eric tomorrow. Of course, Thursday as I mentioned we

have Mike Laughlin, who's gonna be with us, I think for the full

two hours. We'll talk to her in the first hour and in the second

hour he's gonna bring his he's gonna have his guitar with him. He's gonna

play some songs for us. And then Friday on the show, we have

a musical guest, the band Able Blood. We'll be our guest on Friday.

So lots going on this week. I do see Wonder Suade is in

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Wonder Swade says, good afternoon, hashtag Matt from us. What did

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us, Well that's very nice. Hello to you hashtag wondrous Swede. Mike

from Queen City Cabinetry said, I'm having a pretty hard time following what he's

trying to say. Yeah, a little bit of a Biden montage I played

there from annoy, Uh, let's see. And Rona Favero says, you

and me both brother. Of course, whenever I see the word brother in

print, I think of hul Cogan. I hear it in huld Cogan's voice,

you and me both brother. Ronda also commented Sepsis rules, Yes,

we do love Sepsis. Wondrous Swade says, we will have a people post

message to us well, very good hashtag Sepsis rocks from us. Wondrous Swade

says, very good, very good again, six three, two, five,

six seven. If you want to chime in on anything, we've been

talking about Biden's performance in Hanoi and again, I would just say, and

if you're just joining us in your regular listener, you've heard me say it

on the show before. I do believe that he needs to let somebody else

take the reins. I don't mean that he needs to resign, but I

do think he should drop out and let somebody else run for the presidency.

And there's still time to do that. And I've said too that I feel

that President Biden is selfish for staying in and somebody else is finally saying it

using that word specifically, media has this progressive Jank Huger, who of course

is from The Young Turks, says the thing that quote no one else is

willing to say unquote on the left about intensely selfish Joe Biden, it says

here. A progressive pundit, JENK. Huger, founder and host of The

Young Turks, called out President Joe Biden Saturday for putting ego before a country

and shared a petition, a petition calling for the Democrat to quote do the

right thing unquote. Uger posted a message on x formerly Twitter, calling Biden

intensely selfish for running again in the twenty twenty four election. The tweet comes

after several days of news about a devastating new CNN poll that showed the president,

in the words of Abby Philip, quote is being weighed down by many

weaknesses unquote. Uger on Friday referenced the negative pulling in a post questioning the

basis for a re election bid, and on Saturday went hard against it,

writing that he's willing to quote say the one thing no one else will unquote,

presumably meaning no one else in the party or the press is willing to

say about the incumbent Democrat. Quote Joe Biden is being intensely selfish and running

aga yet Oh, actually they have. They have the two tweets here.

I'll I'll just read these right through again. These are at Jank Huger.

This is what he said. Joe Biden says he is running for president again.

So what Why does every Democrat have to listen to him? Why is

it assumed by everyone in Washington that descent isn't allowed against someone in power?

What a weird assumption. I don't agree. Two thirds of Democratic voters don't

agree. I'll say the thing no one else is willing to say, Joe

Biden is being intensely selfish by running again. He's putting his ego above the

interests of his party and his country. So those are the two tweets it

says you're In a subsequent tweet, Yuger included the link to a petition titled

President Biden, Please Drop Out, posted on The Young Turk's website that calls

for Biden to immediately bow out of the twenty twenty four race to make way

for quote, the next generation of democratic leaders. The petition. This is

an ex from the petition. President Joe Biden has had a long and historied

career in American government. He rescued us from the possibility of a second Trump

term, and we appreciate his service to the country. But at this point

in time, we must have a strong, healthy candidate to make sure we

avoid a fascist takeover of our government. Dear mister President, please do the

right thing and bow out with dignity so we can move on to the next

generation of democratic leaders, and so that we can defeat Donald Trump and the

radical Republicans. All right, So that's from the petition. It says you're

at the time of the post, the petition has racked up approximately fifteen hundred

signatures, which isn't very much. But it sounds like the petition just went

over over the weekend. You know. Again, We'll go back to when

Mark Halperin was on Michael Smerconish's radio show and he said he claimed made the

claim that high level sources close to President Biden had told him that the decision

has already been made and that Biden is in fact going to reverse and drop

out, but was trying to figure out the best way to go about this.

But uh, but we'll see, and Mike Doyle is on the line

him Mike, hey man, Hey, did I miss something that. Did

President Biden never come out and say I'm running for re election? Yes?

I don't remember seeing that that I'm I'm running again? Or I don't know.

He hasn't been. He hasn't been doing any campaigning. And I guess

I missed the event where he actually stood up and said I'm running again.

But I missed that. Oh no, there no here, there was an

announcement. Uh, and there was a that's a that's an announcement, But

that's not him saying I'm running or no, he no what I mean because

everybody, everybody's writing his speeches, everybody's writing everything for him, so he's

just going along for the ride. But I haven't He hasn't done any campaign.

He isn't. And when I found funny that you said, you said

he should step aside and let somebody step in. Somebody can run against him

right now, look at Kennedy's doing it. And I know it's the old

thing. If you're an incumbent in your but this is special circumstances, right,

He's getting getting up there in years, he's doing some struggles things like

that. So I don't know. I don't know, but I I don't

know. And I never heard the official I am running for reelection, So

well, no, it definitely, it definitely happened. Yeah, Okay,

I missed it. Yeah, oh no, there's an announcement. But but

I don't think anyone's I don't think anyone's very excited about it. I mean,

polling data shows seven and ten Democrats don't want him to run for a

second term. And that's not that's not across the political spectrum. That's democrats.

Seven and ten Democrats want him to finish up this and then ride off

into the sunset. And uh and by the way, there's no great enthusiasm

for Kamala Harris either. So I think, you know Gavin Newsome, who

I think is running in twenty eight, but I could see him. Apparently

Newsome has formed a pack and so he might be he might be kind of

waiting just in case. But like I said, halper And claims Mark Halperin

claims that Biden has actually decided not to run, but he's just trying to

figure out the best exit strategy. So we'll see. And I'm surprised.

I'm surprised at Newsome because California is a mess. Their their financials are completely

upside down. People are jettisoning themselves out of that state to get to go

to another state. Businesses are going to Texas and New Mexico and stuff like

that to get out of California with their taxes. And I'm really kind of

surprised. But it's it's more I guess it's more of a young stud sing

versus you know, maybe political line. Guess I don't know why. Well,

I'll tell you what Newsome has that Biden certainly doesn't. That Biden did

at one time but clearly at almost eighty one years old, does not have

anymore. Newsome is able to articulate for whether you agree with him or not.

Newsom is able to articulate very well, uh policies and argue for them.

I don't know, I feel like we might have talked about it before.

I'm not sure, But did you see his appearance on Hannity sit down

interview with yeah, okay, yeah, so he even got high marks from

Patrick Bett David, who hates Newsome. I don't know, if you're familiar

with Patrick Bette David's podcast, he hates Newsome. He said he actually left,

he packed up his business and left California specifically because of Gavin Newsom's policies.

But even he said that he saw Newsome on Hannity's show, and while

he hates Newsome and disagrees with him on everything, he said Newsom really brought

it in terms of being prepared and really articulating and just was very in terms

of presentation, was very impressive. So so Newsom's got something, uh so,

well, you know, I think he's I think there's some enthusiasm for

Gavin Newsom, but I don't know. I don't know if he's not necessarily

a household name nationally. Certainly, if you if you go back and look

at that handy thing, you'll see that when Hannity asked some tough about his

state and upside down money and you know, people leaving, and Newsom has

a good way. He's very good at like shrugging it off with an answer

that didn't that didn't answer the question, but he laughs into it and he's

you know, he's You're right, he does very well communicating. Whether you

think he's communicating for the proper answer to that question, that's one thing.

But he had a lot of laughs on that show, the two of them,

him and and he seemed to laugh off a lot of the stuff that

Hanny was hitting him with. But and and one last thing. Remember my

prediction last year. I told you, I said Biden will not run,

and I said Hillary Clinton will show We'll show up. And she's starting to

show herself everywhere on all the shows. Yeah, people, people, people

said that in twenty twenty two. Oh look, Hillary's lurking around. No,

Hillary's not coming back. Hillary's not coming back. And by the way,

Mike, you did also say that you didn't think Trump was gonna run.

Yeah, anyway, that's all right, But that but that's one of

the that's one of the fun things about politics is making predictions, and sometimes

we're wrong and and uh, but that's one of the fascinating things about it.

But no, I I promise you, Mike, Hillary is no nobody

nobody wants to hear from. I mean, I'm not saying nobody wants here

from Hillary. I shouldn't put it that way, but nobody, nobody wants

her running for anything. Not at this point her her time is coming downe

that golden ring of the first female president is still out there, and the

power that holds and the and the you know, it's just I don't know

if it's enough to keep her out of the race. She's one last thing.

Do me a favor, because I know you're a nice guy. I'm

saying that on your radio show. You're a nice guy. We all know

it. But I hate when you call when you said, next time Joe

Biden does a Mitch McConnell, I hate that because only because obviously what McConnell's

going through is some tough stuff. You know, it would be like you're

saying, if Joe Biden has another Diane Feinstein. You know, it's sad

that we have to even talk like that. But it's just the guy's hurting.

They like him or not, he's just hurt. Well, I'm not

trying to be easy, No, I understand, I take your point.

I'm not trying to be uh. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Mitch.

But I'm just trying to make the point though, And I think it's

a valid point that you know, if anything, if I didn't has any

kind of a moment like that, Trump will absolutely be be the next president.

I have no doubt about that. And uh, Biden's had plenty,

plenty of those. Well he hasn't. He hasn't had anything where he's frozen

up like like McConnell has no no, no. But but if that happens

and and and and I'm thinking about too. Can you imagine if that happened

during a debate, if that happened to Biden or in the middle of a

speech where he just completely I mean that that would be the end. And

and I'm just so I just say that to make the point. Uh we

you know he understand, you know, he should not be the point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's just humanitarian wise, just kind

of like I don't know, you know what I mean, they're just they're

both kind of him in Feinstein are both you know, they shouldn't be there.

They're not. Oh no, I agree, we're not representing the people.

Yeah, well we've talked about that before. I mean with Feinstein,

it's uh I feel sorry for her because uh she's clearly uh non compass mentis

and it's not it's it's it's unacceptable. That situation is completely unacceptable. She

supposedly turned to her in a in a meeting inside where am I. Oh,

yeah, there's been there's been several reported incidents where she doesn't know where

she is. Uh, someone I think her daughter has her power of attorney.

Uh, they're they're propping her up. It's it's uh, it's really

disturbing. And uh, I can't believe Uh, I just I can't believe

it. I can't think of another example in history where we've seen something.

I mean, look, a lot of these people stick around long beyond their

cell by date. But I I've never seen anything quite as egregious as the

Dianne Feinstein situation that I can think of. I mean, can you think

of anything quite quite like that? I can't think of anything. It's it's

it's wheeling her in and she just looks despondent as you're, William are in.

It's just it's it's sad to see. It's horrible, you know,

on and on and on. Oh yeah, hey, I have one last

question for you. I'd love to see just your answer and all hanging up

and listen, sure, out of all the Republicans you've seen so far the

debates, who if you were forced to vote for a Republican who had met

Connaton vote for at this point? Okay? But right so I'm just wondering

what, yeah, what you've seen, and what's your take is so far?

Okay, I'll talk to you later. All right, all right,

thanks for the call. I appreciate it. All right, that was That

was our friend Mike Doyle. Six O three two five zero six zero seven

is the studio line. If you'd like to get in with a call,

six O three two five zero six zero seven, I can tell you.

Well. So to answer Mike's question, it's a good question. Uh,

I don't think this answer will surprise anybody. But I tend to the kind

of Republicans that I like politically, tend to be moderate Republicans because I'm not

a well I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent. I'm kind of a

I think the best description of my politics which people seem to agree with when

I the first time I said it. So I'm sticking with it as I'm

center left but with a with a healthy dose of libertarian in some ways,

too. But you know, Chris Christie, I would say, is the

most moderate in the field of Republicans. So policy wise, I would I

would tend to go with him, you know. And and he's uh telling

the truth about Trump and and and even if you don't like what he says,

you know, he certainly is he's not afraid to say any of it.

And he's he doesn't care if you boo him for it. So I

respect that. Having said that, though I will never trust him. So

policy wise, I think it, yeah, I mean, it would definitely

be Chris Christie. He's the only he's the only real moderate in the field,

right. Everyone else I think is pretty conservative. But I'll never trust

him because of Bridgegate. And I've always said I believe he knew what was

going on, uh, you know, the the traffic problems in Fort Lee

time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee. I think he knew what was

going on. I don't see how he could not have known. I don't

think he's honest about it, and I will I will stand by that,

but I guess he'd he'd have to be the one just from a policy standpoint,

I mean, I like what Asa Hutchinson has to say, and that

he's you know, he wants to move beyond the politics of vengeance. Nicky

Haley has said some things I agree with, like you know, standing up,

standing up for Ukraine, not letting Putin get away with what he's doing.

And Chris Christy too. Chris Christie actually went to Ukraine, which I

thought was really good. I'm trying to think, is there anybody else I

would I mean Vake Ramaswami, I think is uh kind of a clown?

Uh? Tim Scott interest I like his positivity. I think he's pretty conservative.

Yeah, I guess it would be Chris Christie. You know, gun

to my head. If I had to vote for a Republican in this race,

it would be him. Uh. J Fed says in the chat room,

If I had to vote for a Republican, it would be Trump.

Wow, Jenny says. He says that like Matt has never voted for a

Republican, That's true. I have voted for Republicans in the past and Libertarians

as well. Melanie says. Oh. Melanie, throwing some shade, says

Mike can't deal with any Republican criticism, but loves to point out the same

things about Democrats. Well like most people, he does. I think see

things through through a partisan prism, if you will, an ideological prism.

But yeah, and again, like I said to Mike, I'm not trying

to be disrespectful of But I mean, Melanie does make a good point because

I you know, I come on the show and uh, I make fun

of Biden and I call him Grandpa and time to take the keys away from

Grandpa. And Mike doesn't seem to have any problem with that. But uh,

yeah, so you do have a point there, Melanie. But no,

but I'm not I'm not really Look, I'm not trying to be disrespectful

to anybody. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to disrespect Mitch McConnell.

I'm not trying kind of disrespect Joe Biden. But we've got to deal

with and I'm not trying to respect disrespect Diane Feinstein and neither was Mike either.

But clearly, but we do have a problem in this country. It's

the jerontocracy. And it's not about picking on people for being old or anything

like that. Not really, there's a deeper issue here. People become entrenched

because look, what do when you see people who are very old. I

mean, let's let's be real about it. When you see people who are

very old and as I said, you know, past their cell by date,

with tremendous power, why does that happen? Because these are people?

What do all these people have in common? Right? Think about it.

You know, Biden and McConnell and Feinstein and Pelosi who's running again, she's

running for reelection, will never be in leadership again, but she has announced

she's running for reelection. What are they all have in common? Well,

they're they're all controlled by their donors, by the donor class, because that's

who they really work for. Right, So it's very important to the people

who give them money that these people remain in power to continue to do the

bidding of the people who give them money. And that's why we get into

this situation. And I'm not exactly sure what the solution is other than people

have to start having a problem with it. In other words, we need

Americans to start saying, wait a minute, these people have been around way

too long. Let's get some new people in there. Because Americans can do

that. We have seen instances in the past where people get primaried. I

remember when the word primary actually became a verb. You know this, You

know this person is running to try to primary the incumbent out of the nomination,

right, so it can be done, but it doesn't happen enough.

It doesn't happen very often. A lot of people will tell you, well,

the solution is term limits or an age limit. I don't think term

limits. People who argue for that, they mean, well, but I

don't think it's the panacea that people think it that it is. And you

know, age limits, I don't know. You'd have to ratify. You

would literally have to ratify the Constitution to pull that off. But you know,

as Americans, we have the power. We can use our vote to

vote for I guess what I'm saying is we don't have to keep reelecting these

very old people. We can insist with our votes on younger people who are

not as beholden to I mean, look, they're all beholden to the donor

class. But we can elect younger people. We are the ones who vote.

So I think the real answer is we have to be able to have

honest discussions. And again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to anybody,

and I don't like I'm you know what, I'm uncomfortable with. I don't

like how agist I sound, because look, the reality is, everyone ages

differently, And I mean, you know, I've met people in their nineties

who seem perfectly lucid and capable, and I would have no problem with them

being in charge of something. But we we have to. We have to

be able to when we're talking about things as important as, for example,

the presidency of the United States, we do have to be able to speak

about these things honestly and confront them honestly. So we have to be able

to have blunt conversations that are uncomfortable that some people aren't gonna like. And

you know, if that means, you know, somebody maybe doesn't like the

way I make a point, or somebody doesn't like that I'm agis or whatever

it is, well, I'm sorry, but these are conversations we're going to

have to have. We just have to. It's necessary if you want to

have a healthy, functioning democracy, if you want to have a strong country,

we have to have these conversations. And this is very much on the

table right now. And Diane Feinstein is the most egregious example, and I

think it's horrible that. I mean, what should have happened by now.

I don't know. I don't know how these people live with themselves who allow

this situation to continue to go on. They won't I understand why they won't

push her out. Here's the problem, by the way, for anyone who

doesn't know. Here's what's really going on in California as best as I can

figure it. Adam Schiff, Congressman Adam Schiff of California wants to run for

that Senate seat, and he knows that if Feinstein goes early. If Feinstein

resigns, Gavin Newsom, governor of California, has already publicly said he will

appoint. Because different states to it, I think the rules vary a little

bit, but California is a state where if a senator resigns, the governor

appoints someone to fill that seat for the remainder of the term of the senator

who either resigns or dies or whatever happens. Right, if that senator goes,

the governor appoints somebody, And Gavin Newsom is already publicly said I will

appoint the first black female Senator from the state of California to fill that seat.

He has made that promise, and Adam Schiff knows well if Gavin Newsom

does that, that that seat's been filled, whoever he appoints might run for

reelection when Feinstein's term is up, whoever replaces her in that seat, and

then what's Adam Schiff gonna do. He can't run for that seat. I

mean he can, but now he's got somebody in his way. He wants

a glide path. He wants Feinstein to finish out her term so that he

can then run for that seat because obviously she's not running for reelection. So

that's what's going on in California. And it's despicable. And the Democrats who

are allowing this situation to continue are despicable. And Chuck Schumer should have made

sure months ago that this was resolved and a al Gavin Knewsome to a point,

whomever he wants, and Adam Schiff just has to suck it up because

this is it's just really disturbing. And Diane Feinstein, like I said,

she's clearly non compass I don't know if I'm saying it right. Non compass

mentis Latin. She was out for months and months and months, and uh,

it's it's I mean, I've seen video of you know, somebody's off

camera telling her how to vote because she doesn't. Yeah, she's lost.

And I don't say any of this would be cruel. I have. I'm

a compassionate person, like Mike said, I'm a nice guy. I have

compassion and empathy. But that doesn't negate that we have to be able to

have difficult conversations about these matters, especially when it's gotten this bad. I've

never seen anything quite like the fine Stein situation. Look, we've seen situations

where sometimes people are struggling. God, I remember when Senator John McCain when

he was I mean he was really he was in tough shape. He was

going through cancer treatment and he was it was rough, but he came back.

He managed to come back for an important vote. There's been other there's

there's been examples of people in wheelchairs being brought in for votes because they were

missing a lot of votes because they were ill or something was wrong. And

that's one thing. But the day in fine Stein situation, I've never seen

anything like that in my life. I never thought that I would. And

every single person who lets this continue, they I don't know how they sleep

at night, and it's it's horrifying. It's absolutely horrifying. Rona Fervero,

who is in California, says, Matt agreed one. Jenny says again,

you know, referring to uh, you know, the gerontocracy. They're voting

on our lives. Ffs. Jenny says, shared just performed and she's seventy

six and look looks as hot as ever. Well shared it, shares had

I had a lot of work done, of course. Uh. Jay Fed

says, I'm sick of four dollars gas and I don't mind mean tweets.

I think I think Jay Fed is uh playing a little bit there. Oh.

Tom Sapienza says, in the chat room, they sleep drunk with power,

that's how they sleep at night. Yeah, exactly, you're right,

Tom, You're absolutely right. Jenny says, uh, oh not not not

a lot. Only teetha knows. She admits, oh, chare, Yeah,

maybe I don't know. I don't know. Hey, if she can

still do it, that's great. Hey. Look at Mick Jagger. Mick

Jagger's eighty dude runs around on dude runs around on stage like he's swunny,

sings and doesn't run out of breath, and of course he has to.

From what I've read Mick Jagger, he actually exercises three hours a day.

He does three hours of cardio every single day of his life. Because he's

eighty years old and to be able to still do that, that's what he

has to do. But he does it. You know, he does the

work. And again, you know, everyone ages differently. I understand that.

I mean, Chuck Grassley, that's part of why the whole age limit

thing is a little dicey. Like Chuck Grassley, Senator Chuck Grassley of Nebraska,

he's ninety ninety one. Apparently he goes running every day, you know,

and he still seems perfectly lucid mentally. And that's why, like I

said earlier, I mean, you know, I've known people in their nineties

who seem fine, you know, they might have a little trouble getting around,

although Chuck Grassley doesn't. Apparently he goes running every morning still from what

I understand, which is incredible. So everyone's different. Everyone age is different.

But but when when we can see, when we can physically see that

the wheels are coming off, whether it's fine stein, whether it's Biden.

I'm not so sure with McConnell, because if it is true that these freeze

ups that he've that he's had are simply a result of the concussion that he

suffered from the fall that he took, then that actually is temporary and he,

in theory, will improve from that. So so maybe the wheels aren't

really coming off with Mitch. But when it's someone where you can see the

wheels are coming off, you gotta say that's it. They need to go.

And that's my point, and sorry to have to say it, but

this is something we have to confront. All Right, we are about out

of time, so we will begin to wrap up. Oh I should play

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