Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-22-23

0:02 Get command, God, don't get so greenly down Matzille coming. Welcome everybody,

0:41 here, we go Happy Friday. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we

0:45 are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM

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1:06 etcetera, etcetera. And I am not alone. If you haven't go problems

1:11 out for Bath for you son, I've got ninety nine problems, but change

1:14 one. DJ Reckless is in the house. We are Bath. Yes,

1:19 I haven't seen uh. Let's guess they haven't seen you in a long time,

1:23 but thus obviously not true. I haven't seen you here in a long

1:25 time. No, it's been a minute. It's been I'd say it's been

1:27 a minute and a half. The young people say that, right, a

1:30 minute and a half. Yes, yes, so we have Yes. DJ

1:34 Reckless is here with us on this Friday afternoon. By the way, we

1:40 do not have coming up in the second hour our musical guest Crooked Cash.

1:45 They will not be here. They let Jenny know early this morning, first

1:49 thing, so they give us notice. But I guess one of the guys

1:52 has a family emergency. So we hope everything is okay and they will certainly

1:55 reschedule, so no worries there. We also don't have Eric Pilter his classic

2:00 film review because he's got an internet outage in his area in Cedar Rapids.

2:06 I guess some city workers accidentally, uh knocked out the internet in his neighborhood.

2:12 He uh remember when Comcast did that? Did that here? Or that

2:15 truck did that? I do remember that? Yeah, yeah yeah he Uh

2:22 what did he say here? Oh, I'm under an internet outage currently.

2:27 A fiber line was hit or struck. I'm waiting. I'm waiting now to

2:31 see when it comes back on. And he said, uh, it's still

2:36 down. They haven't been able to repair it yet. He said, uh,

2:43 yeah, they couldn't find where the fiber line was cut and had to

2:46 stop working for the night. According to Uh, that's what what he was

2:51 told. Yeah, yeah, so that's uh, that's a shame. It's

3:00 terrible. But anyway, so we'll have Eric Pilcher's a film review on Monday.

3:06 So but DJ Reckless is here so and and by the way, you

3:10 are going to be tomorrow night at the hop Knot, our amazing sponsor.

3:15 Of course, if you're watching online, you can see I've got the shirt

3:17 I wear the colors with pride, and they've got those delicious Gormet pretzels.

3:22 They have an astortment of craft beer, and tomorrow is the hop Knot's fourth

3:25 birthday, and they've got a bunch of live music music. So during the

3:30 day, excuse excuse me, Oh my goodness, I'm so excited. I'm

3:34 so excited about the hop Knot. It's like I suddenly have a pizza a

3:38 piece of pretzel caught in my throat their DJ Reckless, even though I'm not

3:43 actually consuming a pretzel. Yeah, the math doesn't add up there. I

3:46 know it's psychological. But yeah, so they've got during the day, they've

3:51 got Matt Litzinger. We'll be performing there at one pm. At three pm,

3:54 they have Jasmine Man and at four pm they have michaela Horn and then

3:59 they're gonna to close for a few hours and then they're reopening at eight pm

4:02 for a dance party with Big Gay Events and DJ Reckless will be performing that

4:09 guy sucks who does less kid? Oh that's you silly, Oh my goodness,

4:15 Oh my goodness. So this will be your first time d Jane at

4:19 the topnot correct, I think so? Yeah, not definitely. Yeah,

4:23 yeah, very cool. And you're gonna be part of the big gay events.

4:26 Yeah, so that'll be fun. Yeah, I'm excited. It's it's

4:30 it's it's been an interesting week, so yeah, yeah, we would have

4:32 wrapped things up. Yeah tomorrow. Of course, their their fourth birthday and

4:38 one of our great sponsors here at WMNH. But yeah, you had last

4:43 night, you did. You were at Murphy's Murphy's tap Room, right,

4:46 Yeah, started a new new event there weekly. Okay, so you're gonna

4:51 be there every thursday? Ye outstanding. Well, I'm gonna have different there

4:55 every Thursday. I'm not gonna be there every Thursday. But we in it.

4:58 We finally launched Reckless Unit Verity, which is huge. It's it will

5:01 be careful. You know, Trump had Trump University and that ended horribly to

5:08 totally different things. It's no fraud here. There's no one good good there

5:13 won't be a class action lawsuit against you in the future hopefully. Well,

5:15 very good either way, man, it it was it was. It was

5:18 definitely, definitely huge and very eye opening to see for me and to see

5:24 what I can do in this city. We put almost two hundred and fifty

5:27 heads up in that building, so excellent. It was massive and yo,

5:30 honestly it's it was shocking. It was shocking, especially with the turn of

5:33 events last night with the car accident on the corner of Elmin Auburn. Oh

5:39 what happened? I saw somebody post it on online that there was there was

5:43 a big to do? Was it? Was it a really bad accident?

5:45 It was really bad? Wow? Yeah, multi cars, car and car

5:49 and bike? Oh no, yeah, like a motorcycle or an actual bicycle

5:55 a motorcycle. Oh okay, that's never good. It seems like that's a

5:59 trend lately too. Yeah. And one of them at my thoughts are my

6:01 thoughts are with the biker because I know her personally. Oh kid, yeah,

6:06 so I hope she's doing pretty good. No one's heard anything or listen,

6:10 I haven't heard anything. Oh wow, that's terrible. It's super unfortunate.

6:14 And the staff at Angel City. I hope you're all are doing okay,

6:16 because that's it's really unfortunate because she was the bar manager at Angel City.

6:20 Oh okay, yeah wow, oh oh, sorry to hear that.

6:26 So you don't know if she's okay or not. No, I'm not entirely

6:30 sure. I heard all of this at like two am this morning. Yeah,

6:33 I heard. I got a text yesterday right when the event started that

6:38 there was part of the street was blocked off, and I considered for a

6:41 minute, honestly canceling the event because I didn't think anyone would come. And

6:46 I showed up at eleven, my opener was there and there was almost two

6:48 hundred people. Wow, and I was I was shocked. I was like,

6:53 holy crap. But it all comes back to like the networking I've done

6:57 in this city, and it's it's honestly, what has been for me recently

7:01 is a lot of people have counted me out over the past two years,

7:05 did me wrong, did me dirty, And now I'm finally showing that Yo,

7:12 I'm I'm I'm clearly gonna have to do this myself. I've had my

7:15 help in the city, I've had my guidance, but when it comes down

7:18 to it, it's whatever. Like last night, that was one hundred percent

7:25 my promotion me even Murphy said it. Yeah. And for me, me

7:30 as a local DJ, to be able to put that together on a week

7:33 notice, it's massive, massive, you only had a week. Yeah.

7:39 He came to me like last week and was like, hey, here,

7:42 you want to do Thursdays. I go absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I

7:45 want to do Thursdays. Yeah. I'm like, it's a chance for me

7:47 to build my rapport with other DJs and book them and for me to get

7:51 these college kids out and honestly, yo, shout it to everyone from saying

7:55 as who came out last night? That was that was that was huge And

7:59 I honestly I haven't I haven't said thank you to anybody yet on like Instagram

8:03 or anything like that, because I was waiting for this moment. Excellent,

8:07 we're gonna clip this, We're gonna put it up on the gram on DJ

8:11 reckless must be what young people are calling all right, But no, but

8:13 no, honestly, like I want to say thank you to everyone that came

8:18 out last night and truly supports me weekend and week out, you know,

8:20 sharing my flyers, you know, and just showing me support over the past

8:26 two years. And I also want to thank the haters because that's been my

8:30 fuel from day one. Day one. We all know what happened with me

8:35 and soho that really played a key in it, all right, And I'm

8:39 I'm I'm glad what happened with me there happened because it showed me my worth

8:46 and who I am, what I can do, and it's I'm grateful for

8:52 that, yeah, honestly, and everyone that's did me wrong, counting me

8:56 out, it's it's water under the bridge. But didn't forget it. I

9:01 didn't forget it. It's always been in my head for the past two years,

9:05 and now I finally have something to show for it, for all the

9:09 hard work and everything else, the tears, the blood, the sweat,

9:11 it's the frustration, the sweat, the stress. And yeah, I mean

9:18 I'm genuinely still in shock about last night. Really, yeah, yeah,

9:20 honestly, hasn't hasn't all come like come to fruition yet. I'm just like

9:26 sitting here, I'm like, Wow, were you unsure that a Thursday night

9:30 would do well? Is that what it was? Or you anything else will

9:35 do well? Right? Right? I'm not sure anything. I always expect

9:39 zero people to show up. Really yeah, I said last yesterday for the

9:43 best prepare for. I said, yesterday to the manager over there, I

9:46 said, it's going to be hit or miss this week. Yeah. I

9:50 think it was a hit. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I'm

9:52 laughing at the chat room. Melanie just said Melanie Liberty, of course from

9:56 the great state of Vermont. She just said, what's up, dj Rack.

10:00 I get pretty sweaty too, yeah, she Djane. She talks about

10:05 that a lot, totally. Yeah, yeah, very good. Now,

10:09 so uh and just to clarify, so, so you've got every Thursday there,

10:13 but it won't always be you. Yeah, I know I'm gonna be

10:16 there once a month other than like I think I'm doing a Halloween thing there.

10:20 I'm doing a Taylor Swift party there, and I'm doing my birthday bash

10:22 day. Oh, very good. When when's your birthday? It's November twenty

10:26 nine. But Thanksgiving Eve it's going to be the official birthday bash. Oh

10:30 Thanksgiving Eve. That's a big night. Very good, very good. Now

10:35 do you know yet? So for the nights that you're not there, you're

10:39 just gonna book out their DJs. I'm fully booked up until like November.

10:41 Now, oh, very good. Put that out the way quick. Do

10:43 you want to mention who's coming up just some week? Next week, I

10:48 have my residence DJ Shaun White there. I'm super excited for him to be

10:52 there because he's one of the guys I started this all out with. Started

10:56 dad open for him. I opened for him all the time. He's a

10:58 great doucer and he teaches me a lot, so it was only right for

11:01 me to put him on. Yeah, and then the week after I'm not

11:07 exactly sure who I have, but I know I have somebody. Yeah,

11:11 No, that's good. Yeah. When I used to promote a lot of

11:13 rock shows in the area and whatnot, I would always try to get get

11:18 in with a venue where they would give me a night, you know,

11:20 one night a week. Actually, I for if for people around here who

11:24 who remember the old Uptown tavern that we used to have up the street.

11:28 I remember they gave me Thursday nights there for a while, you know,

11:31 and it was it was, it was pretty successful. It's you know,

11:35 never it was never as good as a as busy as a weekend, but

11:37 you know, Thursday nights if you promote it, right, you can get

11:39 people out and like you said too, you know, whereas you're really promoting

11:45 to a college crowd, that certainly helps because I get the impression that a

11:50 lot of the college kids around here they go out on Thursday nights because a

11:52 lot of them go home on the weekend on Friday. So Thursday night's kind

11:56 of the night. Is that is not enough? Sarially, sorry, I'm

12:01 dealing with something for later, but saying as they have a campus like they

12:07 you, they have dorms like residence halls. So they all found me out

12:13 there. Yeah, they all party on in center, are on campus and

12:16 then don't go out Friday Saturdays, but come out Thursdays. So and I've

12:22 always had a good I've always had a good what's call good reputation, would

12:28 saying us because I did all their like bar events that say Murphy's for almost

12:35 a year and I'm coming up on a year. Yeah, so I built

12:37 I built that up, and I did a few few on campus events for

12:43 them. Yeah, And it was weird because like last year during the Kentucky

12:46 Derby, I went on went on their campus for a party and it felt

12:50 weird. I felt genuinely weird because everybody knew me. I didn't know a

12:56 single person. Everyone's graving pictures with me, and it's like, I'm not

13:01 used to that. So it's the social awkwardness came out, and like,

13:05 I gotta figure out a way through that, because like yesterday, I must

13:09 have taken at least three hundred photos with people. Oh wow, yep,

13:11 yeah, and that's what it is. Like, Yeah, i'd take my

13:13 photo, I'd take photos of people. I put my hat forward, show

13:16 my logo, and because it's subconscious, yes, they see my logo,

13:20 they're like, oh, that looks familiar, and then they'll see it somewhere

13:24 else, like at Murphy's or something. When you mentioned doing that with your

13:28 hat, I remember the have you ever you you told Jenny and I about

13:33 this, but I don't know if you ever told the story on the air

13:35 when when Channel nine approached you get into this one. Yeah, yeah,

13:41 yes, and I don't think I've been on since that. I'm gonna find

13:43 the audio while you're talking about it. Yeah, go ahead, okay,

13:46 tell that story. I was going to get lunch or something like that at

13:50 the corner of Elmon Mechanics Street and WMR was out there interviewing for something when

13:54 Trump he had just got indicted or something, and I was like, you

13:58 know what, Sure, I'll say something. But I was in my work

14:01 shirt. So I ran over changed, put on my put on my reckless

14:05 hat, put on my reckless hoodie, I think in my jacket, and

14:09 I made sure I made sure my logo was front and center this time,

14:18 because the last time I tried this, that bonfire when we did the radio

14:22 thon or whatever. Yeah, a few years ago, they cut my logo

14:24 off on my sweatshirt. I was like, son of a gun, like

14:31 I can't win. But it helped. It was. It was a funny

14:35 thing, great, great marketing. Yeah, I posted up on the socials.

14:37 We at great engagement. The hate messages from all the Trump He's was

14:41 hilarious. It was it was it was it was. It was a riot,

14:43 the death threats, everything else. I was like, okay, cool,

14:46 I found the audio here. Mean about him has always been negative.

14:50 Some vooters, like Christian Lacosts, have had their minds made up about whether

14:54 or not they vote for Donald Trump for a while now, from January sixth

14:56 and now this like when does it stop? You know what I'm when do

15:00 people actually realize that he's not a good person and he's not good for the

15:03 country. Yeah, it's cool that. Uh were there other people they were

15:09 talking to too, because they had to wait for you to go do that.

15:11 Uh, I don't think there was anybody else that I was talking Yeah,

15:16 but yeah, I know. It was. It was funny. It

15:18 was it was a riot. And granted, everything I said in that interview

15:22 is obviously true. That's how I feel about him. Yeah, but like

15:26 I didn't do it for that, No, but that that is great,

15:30 that is great publicity exactly. But but you got a lot of uh,

15:33 you got a lot of you got a lot of hate for that, Yeah,

15:37 from a bunch of eighty year olds like okay, okay, cool,

15:43 Well just leave your inheritance to me. Yeah, I don't care about your

15:46 opinion. Just I care about your inheritance or your your will priorities. Honestly,

15:52 That's right. But no, no, no, it was. It

15:54 was funny. It was cool. Yeah. Yeah, well very good.

15:58 Now what's uh what's on tonight tonight? I'm at snow. I'm on campus

16:03 tonight for not interesting. When I got a sorority's booking me out there,

16:06 so we're gonna go out there. We're gonna have some fun. I'm gonna

16:10 make my connects have some some I'm probably hit up an afterparty two. That's

16:12 at some dorm I don't usually I don't usually do stuff like that. So

16:17 okay, what time does that start? That's at eight I think eight to

16:22 eleven, eight eleven, and then tomorrow I'm gonna go to Santa's tailgate and

16:25 film some TikTok contents, some pranks and stuff like that. Oh you still

16:30 do pranks, yeah, every now and then. I just haven't uploaded anything

16:33 because it gets I don't know. I'm trying to correlate it to what I

16:37 do. That's why I started the Instagram page for Reckless University, because I

16:41 don't want that to be a direct reflection of me. I don't want that

16:45 to target college kids. Oh I see, like my my page is just

16:48 for DJs and I hate that. I hate it. I hate it.

16:52 I hate it so much. Why Because DJs are the most toxic people I've

16:56 ever met my life. Really m M. Not the ones you work with

17:03 that you're booking at. No No, No No. For example, though,

17:07 like there was a there was a group chat of Boston. DJ's right.

17:10 Yeah, And I've never realized how egotistical short people can be. And

17:15 like there was this one kid like who would talk so much trash about me.

17:18 Yeah, he kicked me out of the group chat over something, and

17:23 then like people would tell me what was being said in that group chat for

17:27 almost months after I told you this story. Oh yeah, and it's just

17:32 like, yeah, that's all fuel to fuel to me. That's all fuel

17:34 to me. I'm playing down in Boston almost every month now, Like okay,

17:37 cool, Like all right, you live down in Boston, Okay,

17:41 it's cool, but like, don't trash from me. I'm in a totally

17:47 different market that's totally different than Boston. It's much easier. It's much easier

17:51 out there to pack a club than it is out here. I'll confidently say

17:55 that, well you got more college kids there, yea here I mean,

17:56 And it's like it's like confidently like people people try me for like not being

18:00 able to pack soho when I was when I was there, I was bottle

18:03 service. I do standing room only. That's ten times hardy. Yeah,

18:08 always will be bottle service. You've got groups of people coming in making the

18:12 place look busy. Right standing room only totally different, totally different. Now,

18:19 Melanie in the chat room, she was kind of bonding with you there

18:22 over what you were saying. She said, yeah, Dji, she said,

18:26 yeah, DJ's are lame, and then she said what I am short

18:30 and I never talked trash? Is that true? And then she says bottle

18:33 service lame. Yeah, she's with you, she's feeling you, she's picking

18:40 up what you're laying down. The young people say that right, No,

18:44 okay, sorry, I try hard, too hard. Ah. Now,

18:51 how long are you playing tomorrow night at hopknot nine to twelve? Oh?

18:53 Excellent, excellent, Yeah, excellent, excellent, Well, very good,

18:59 very good. Well. DJ Reckless is here with us. If you're just

19:02 joining us. This is first time on the show in a while actually,

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19:33 six zero three two five zero six o seven. We should mention two coming

19:41 up tonight. So yeah, so Reckless will be he'll be at the hop,

19:45 not tomorrow night, very exciting tonight. I'm not sure what they're doing

19:49 at the hop, not this evening, but I can tell you here on

19:52 w M and H we have retro Spectrum Radio with PAULI C. And I'll

19:57 tell you what Paul posted on social medi about it. Friday Night on Retrospectrum

20:02 Radio will feature our third and final segment of famous songs ripped off by your

20:07 favorite artists and sitting in for DJ Steve this week will be none other than

20:11 Dan Randall from Dan Randall and the Randletts. Do join us and we do

20:15 recommend for that show. If you'd like to hang out with us on the

20:17 Facebook live chat, we'd love to see you in there. Just go to

20:19 the Retrospectrum Radio Facebook page, but open a second browser tab and go to

20:23 WMH radio dot org and click listen live. Because Paul mutes the Facebook feed

20:30 because of all the copyrighted music. Facebook has been especially ticky about that recently,

20:34 so so just open a second tab to stream the audio while you hang

20:38 out and chat with us in the Facebook live chat. We love to uh,

20:41 we love to see people in there. Do you ever you ever try

20:45 to stream any of your set to Facebook? And if so, do they

20:49 do they knock it down? Or what about it? I've seen you do

20:52 it on Instagram, but but I've done on Instagram in a wild They'll kick

20:56 me off every yeah, every like five minutes. And the issue is like

20:59 they'll lench shadow band me or something. Oh they will. My engagement will

21:02 tank and it's just like I'd rather not. Oh okay, Yeah, I

21:06 learned the hard way that Instagram is very very uh, very strict, much

21:11 more so than Facebook. Shannon is on the line, Hi, Shannon,

21:15 Hello, Hello him, DJ Reckless, Hi, about the retrospect from there?

21:26 There are too many songs now they start out and you think it's this

21:30 one, and it's another one now with the with the keys in the core

21:37 progression or whatever is it? Okay? I thought you could not pat in

21:44 a sound. You cannot, but you can get it cleared pat sound,

21:49 so you if you get it cleared through the label, I believe that the

21:56 artist made the song. You can get it cleared through the artist. You

21:57 can use it if it's a sample. Yeah, yeah, example, is

22:02 that what you mean, sham No. I thought you just couldn't claim ownership

22:07 to a like a beat or or I don't know what I'm trying to say.

22:11 Uh, well, I think it was referencing. It's a story.

22:15 I heard it one time ago, and I think it was referencing on motorcycles.

22:22 You know, the sound of opposed to other bikes. They have distinct

22:26 sounds, and you couldn't patent that sound. I thought, I don't know.

22:33 Oh right before uh Peter show started this afternoon, and if he's listening,

22:41 thank you for playing press Monkey and high DJA Steve. Uh there was

22:47 a song on. It was a country song, but it clearly sounded like

22:52 stand by Me. You know that, you know the songs? Yeah,

22:56 it sounded like that that beat? Okay? Does I say beat is my

23:03 version of a beat as a sample? When you say beat, like,

23:07 do you mean the drum track the flow? I think she means like instrumental

23:12 or like I don't know the technical name. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly.

23:19 I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Shannon. It's just just I

23:25 don't know. Never mind, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna figure it out

23:32 if I just a flow do you mean? It sounds like the saying I

23:37 don't know? Do you mean like the vibe like, uh yeah, hippie

23:41 trip. I'm not gonna go vibe and go real hippie here. But yeah,

23:45 the if I think of a word, I'll let you know. Okay,

23:49 a lot of a lot of snow, Shannon, But if probably see

23:53 went went through all the different genres of music, country and hip, he'd

23:59 probably kind a lot more. That's right, probably carry you through till Christmas.

24:03 That's right. Yes, we could do an eleven part series. Yeah,

24:10 all right, we'll have a good one and television policy and uh Dan

24:14 and DJA. All right, Shannon, thank you for the call. All

24:18 right, having tweekend too it DJ bye bye. Well very nice. That

24:22 opens up the line for you. Six zo three two five zero six zero

24:26 seven six zo three two five zero six zero seven. Yeah, we were

24:30 on Paul's show. We've been we've been doing this, you know, the

24:34 Paul will play like a song and then the original one that guess it yeah,

24:40 and then but a lot of them I voted not guilty. I should

24:45 have a gavel because you know, as you know, because you're not only

24:49 a DJ, but you also play guitar and you sing, and actually you

24:52 in fact, a few years ago you performed live on the show. So

24:56 as you know, there are a lot of chord progressions in rock mu that

25:00 are very common. And and sometimes, you know, when these chord progressions,

25:06 you know, they pop up in these different songs and then somebody says,

25:10 oh, well that that sounds like that, that sounds like it ripped

25:12 off this other song, and it's like, okay, well, if you're

25:15 gonna say this song ripped off that song, there's also a hundred other songs

25:18 that ripped off that song, you know. So so to me, it's

25:22 like you have to kind of accept that there are just certain chord progressions and

25:27 melodies and bits of melodies that are just very common in music, and uh,

25:33 and they just they come up a lot, and it doesn't mean necessarily

25:37 that it's someone trying to rip somebody else off, or even if it does

25:41 happen, it's probably not something they're doing consciously. Oh, Shannon is calling

25:47 back. I wonder if she thought of the word Hi, Shannon. No,

25:48 I didn't think of the word. Okay, when you know, when

25:55 they say dropped the beat, it's they don't say dropped the sample if they

25:59 dropped the beat. Oh, yes, reckless, you're a DJ. Can

26:03 you explain that? No, drop the beat? You know? Don't you

26:10 don't you drop the beat when you're a DJ? Yeah? Oh? Or

26:14 that old school speak. No, I get what you're saying. I do

26:17 get what you're saying about ticking up what I'm putting down. Yeah, it's

26:19 it's it's it's I want to say you're going for, Like the beat and

26:26 sample can be the same thing. That's two. It's a it's two two

26:30 different terms for the same thing. Right, So like hold on jay Z's

26:37 song dirt dirt off your shoulders or whatever? Okay, dirt off my shoulder?

26:41 Yeah, yep, you take that, and you take bounce back by

26:48 Big Sean or whatever. I believe, Okay, same instrumental, Oh,

26:55 same sample. I've never heard bounce back to different lyrics. It's just different

26:59 lyrics. Yeah. Now, did they have to get permission? And I'd

27:03 assume. So, I mean, yeah, the closest I can relate to

27:07 that is my my friend actually is a producer under the label Itaway a Mafia.

27:15 He produced the song for Anelli Chappo, which is a which is a

27:22 rap artist. He used the sample from, or instrumental from Nelly's It's getting

27:30 Hot in Here, Hot in Here. I've heard that a few tracks.

27:33 Actually yeah, yeah, but he but he used that did he gets?

27:38 No? Nelly came out. Nelly came out on the on the MTV Awards

27:41 and performed the song with him. Don't okay, I didn't see it.

27:47 No, no, you The only time you will get in trouble is if

27:49 you don't ask for permission, right, if you don't get a contract with

27:52 permission, right, That's why you see like ed Shearon ed, Charon recently

27:57 just had a lawsuit for it. Yeah that he one, thankfully? Yes?

28:03 Who else? Who else? Am? I think that Sharon's been sued

28:06 a couple of times now. Led Zeppelin are the worst offenders in history.

28:08 But I mean there's eighty eight keys on a piano, correct, Yes,

28:14 yes there are, and there are eight notes musically speaking, right, Okay,

28:21 I mean there's only so much you can do. So something's going to

28:22 sound like something And I don't know that's right. I don't have songs being

28:26 played out there, but i'd be flattered if somebody. I don't know.

28:33 I guess I'm just different because to me, it's music. Music is to

28:37 be shared. It is not a competition, you know, right, I

28:45 don't know or how much can I get because they written me off? Right,

28:49 don't be greedy about your music sharing, right, it's not a competition.

28:56 I made up a little risk, but you do have to make a

28:57 living. You made you made up a yeah. Uh. Back when I

29:03 was eighteen, my my ex he was playing the acoustics. I said we'll

29:07 try this, and you know he did it. Now, I swear I

29:15 had never heard it before. Whether he did or not, I don't know.

29:18 Some time later, Patience comes on the radio. But guns and Roses,

29:23 Yeah, are this the part of it up? Muse? Okay,

29:29 so that was kind of neat, but yeah, true story? Wow?

29:34 So okay, all right, I just don't know, uh lingo or I

29:41 don't know. I think have you considered legal action against guns and Roses?

29:45 Yeah? But you know it's it's true. It's true story. I mean,

29:49 I if I knew how to get ahold of him, I'd say,

29:53 you don't tell him. I'm not lying. He played, he played,

29:56 It made the sound, you know, and how do it? No?

30:00 Is that is that the progression? Is that the core pro meaning? No,

30:06 no, no, no, I'm so lost. No no no,

30:10 no no no no no, no no no no. Is that the progression?

30:14 Or is that just a beat a riff? All right? I don't

30:18 think that doesn't sound like patience by guns and Roses. That sounds more like

30:23 get ready by no no no, no, no, no, no no

30:27 no, so get ready. No, you're not doing no no no.

30:34 I wish I could sing falsetto it. I can, oh, I guess

30:40 I can do it if I try. Get Ready played bass. This is

30:45 why I played bass, because this is what happens when a sick Okay,

30:55 Christen, does you gotta go to radio voice? Thank you? All right?

31:03 For the rest of the rest of the rest of the show. He's

31:06 just gonna sing. No, I can't do that, you know what.

31:10 I'm actually a pretty good harmony singer. If I'm singing with other people,

31:14 I can find the octave and kind of lock in and whatnot. But on

31:15 my own. I do get lost. I have over the years had several

31:19 vocal coaches, all of all, three of whom at different times in my

31:23 life. We're very encouraging, but yeah, I just could never quite I

31:29 actually did years ago right here in Manchester. I participated in a recital because

31:34 my vocal teacher at the time was having a recital at the library and it

31:40 was like a bunch of her thirteen year old students and me singing. Actually

31:45 there was one other adult there part of those, but yeah, it was

31:49 kind of weird. I sang Let It Be by the Beatles, Let it

31:53 Be. She wanted me to sing Daughters by John Mayer, but that would

31:59 have been alinging for me because I would have been vomiting in my mouth while

32:01 singing it. But I loved singing Let it Be. Let's see who we

32:06 have on the line here. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's

32:09 this, Hey, Maddie, it's me. It's polyc Yes. So tonight

32:19 we're going to be doing a little bit of a twist to the last segment

32:22 of the plagiarism. So like we did play tonight, some of them were

32:27 they're mostly samples songs. Okay, so you have to guess. You and

32:31 Dan Randall and our listeners at home, we'll have to guess whether or not

32:35 there was actually a lawsuit. Oh, that'll be fun. Oh, I

32:38 like this, This will be cool. Just play like any of Edge Shearing

32:42 songs. There is there was a lawsuit, that's that's true. But he

32:46 always wins always, yeah, which was crazy to me. Yeah, but

32:52 yeah, that'll be fun. I'm looking forward to that, Paul. I've

32:53 enjoyed this whole plagiarism thing. It's been a lot of fun. But this

32:57 this sounds like it'll be particularly stim and it'll be wonderful to see Dan Randall

33:01 of Dan Randall and the Randletts. Absolutely, he'll tell us all about the

33:06 recent tour he's been on as a as an audience member. Do you think

33:09 he'll do you think he'll sign us with a sharpie? I'm sorry you cut

33:15 out? What was that, Matt? Do you think he'll sign us if

33:16 we give him a sharpie? Will he sign our body parts? I hope

33:21 so. I mean I already have like a whole rainbow variety of sharpie's in

33:27 my backpack, so I'm hoping he like colors. Me a little bit.

33:31 Actually, wow, that'll be great. You know something that Dan himself would

33:37 want. I want his autograph in every single color of sharpie that I have.

33:43 Yeah, outstanding, that'll be fun. Yeah, because Dan would do

33:47 that. Dan would go. I mean, Dan's going to see I just

33:50 spoke to him on I think Wednesday night, yea, and to make plans

33:53 for him to come in. And he told me that he's going to see

33:57 Corey Saltman at the end of the month. And I was pissed off him

34:00 because he didn't tell me that he was going to that. I would have

34:02 went with him. He's going to see Corey Corey Feldman a storian. Oh

34:07 my god. Yeah, it's like a lecture. It's a lecture. Really.

34:12 Yeah. We'll get the details on it tonight. But what Dan told

34:14 me, I'm like, Dan, why didn't you tell me? Man?

34:16 He goes, well, the tickets are hundred and twenty five bucks. I

34:19 didn't think he wanted to sit through two hours of Corey Felban. I mean,

34:22 do you want to go? And I said, hell, no,

34:24 I just wanted you to ask me and think of me. Oh my god,

34:28 yeah, no, I couldn't sit through two hours and then he's gonna

34:30 meet him to meet and greet. Oh boy, wow, hey, listen,

34:37 don't ask he's gonna He's gonna ask Corey if he could at least do

34:42 a couple of station bumpers for us, and uh, maybe call in at

34:46 the show. So maybe Corey Selman will call in. Well probably not outside

34:52 the rebel fossibility. That's that's good, Okay, all right, cool.

34:57 I'd like to I would like to hear him saying What's Up with the Youth?

35:00 I think that would be a lot of fun. That's what I told

35:01 Dan, I said, I'd love to have him come into the studio and

35:04 do an unplugged version of What's Up with the Youth? Yes, we can

35:07 all sing it with him. It'd be great. I'd love that only on

35:10 the chorus. Would let him have the verses. You know, I don't

35:14 want to ruin. I hope he still dresses like Michael Jackson because you know,

35:19 you remember. You might not remember this, but we played oh my

35:23 God. It was a Corey Feldman's cover song of of Something That Shouldn't.

35:29 He turned it into a sexy love song, but it was. It was

35:31 imagined by John Lennon. Do you remember we played that with Corey Feldman up

35:36 front. You know, I actually I think I do sort of recall it.

35:39 It's a little fuzzy, but yeah, it sounds familiar. Yeah,

35:44 well, he tries to he does the little sounds that Michael Jackson may he

35:50 sings. He tries to be Michael Jackson's pathetic. Yeah. It's pretty pretty

35:53 bizarre. But yeah, I mean, since the other Corey is dead,

35:58 there's no reason to see one Corey, right, reckless? What right?

36:05 Reckless? Yeah right? The other Corey Corey Hayman's dad. So you know

36:12 looking up who oh yeah, back in the day, brother, there were

36:15 two actors, teen actors, and they were in every bad teen movie you

36:20 could think of, except for The Lost Boys that was a good one.

36:24 But these two guys were both called Corey, Corey Hayman, Corey Seldman,

36:29 and there were just two. I don't know. They were so bad,

36:34 they were lovable, you know what I mean. And you know Corey Seldman

36:37 the one Dan's going to Sason. Okay, I see, he's been in

36:42 commercials since he was a little boy. We we uh have in the archives

36:46 at WMH video footage of Corey Haymes doing a Heinz ketchup commercial when he was

36:52 like six years old. He in some like pretty big movies too. Oh

36:58 yeah, yeah, Same by Me, The Gooney East. Oh yeah yeah,

37:00 stand by Me is really good. Man by Me was probably his biggest

37:05 movie. He was also in Friday the Thirteenth, A New Beginning. Oh

37:09 okay, And they had a reality show. It was Corey Feldman and his

37:15 wife and Corey Ham comes to live with them. It was I think it

37:20 was on VH one, right, yeah, I remember that. I think

37:24 it might have that lasted what fifteen twenty minutes? Yeah, I didn't last

37:29 long, it was, Yeah, I didn't last long. I think it

37:35 was called The Two Corries, I think, if I'm not mistaken, but

37:37 uh yeah, and then uh and and I think shortly after that, Corey

37:43 Corey Ham left us. Yes, Corey Hayme left us. And also Corey

37:47 Feldman was also on several episodes of A Love Bote. I didn't know that,

37:53 but I'm not surprised, right, Yeah, he was. He played

37:58 a problem child and one of the episodes he was still in Mirror's Kid in

38:02 an episode. Oh all right, it's pathetic, I know, Mad,

38:09 I'm sorry. I'm into the next I'm sorry, Well, I know that's

38:14 kind of the point of your show exactly. All right, I will speaking

38:19 of that, I'll see you guys in a few hours. Man, all

38:21 right, sounds good, Paul, I'll see you then. Than you have

38:24 a good night, Reckless you two? All right? Here it up?

38:28 Brother, of course? All right, bye bye, it has to be

38:30 done. Always nice to hear from poll C and I get to see police

38:35 every Friday night from eight to eleven PM for Retro Spectrum Radio with Policy along

38:39 with j Stevens. Tonight, we will be joined by Dan Randall of Dan

38:43 Randall and the Randlettes. Yeah. Ever hear this song reckless? What's up

38:45 with the youth? That sounds like a remix? Actually it's quite bad.

38:57 Shannon is back on the line. Hi, Shannon. I was all excited.

39:00 I thought it was going to educate me a little one, but whatever,

39:05 okay, question what's up with the youth? Shannon? By the way,

39:13 what's up with the youth? Oh? Well, they butchered the English

39:16 language, so I mean, what else you want? Hey? We just

39:21 made it easier, thank you. Yeah. No, Hey, it's smarter,

39:23 not harder. Okay, you all we use literally always rasis like way

39:29 too much. Well, you can. You can blame Generation X for that,

39:34 My generation is responsible for for that, and then it's just it's perpetuating

39:37 Generation X too. But I don't say like all the time. You probably

39:42 say it more than you realize, because we all we all say we all

39:45 say it more than we realize. Shannon, trust me, we all say

39:50 we all say it more than we realize. No, the real question is

39:52 what's up with the youth? Sorry? I thought was that the chorus?

40:04 What was it gonna? Corey Feldman? He was in stand by Me?

40:07 Now? Was he one of the kids, the younger kids of the older

40:10 one? What's up with the youth? Corey Feldman? Was did you say?

40:17 Was was he one of the four boys that went to look for the

40:21 body? I believe so. I haven't seen that movie in decades, but

40:24 I believe so because River Phoenix is gone. He was crazy. He played

40:29 Chris Gordo. I don't know his real name. Burne is Jerry O'Donnell.

40:35 And then the other one was Teddy, and I think Teddy is Cory,

40:37 So I don't know. By the way, Paul is confirmed this is the

40:40 correct version, not the remix. I was wrong. What's that, Shane?

40:51 Well, when you're talking about sampling and course progression and everything else that

40:55 bridges, where's the hook come in? Oh? The oka is coming up?

41:00 I think the hook is coming up, Shannon. That's the part where

41:02 he says, what's up with the youth? Okay, the lago? All

41:09 right? The youth? What's up with the youth? What's up with the

41:15 youth? What's up with the youth? What's up with you with youth?

41:23 What's up with the youth? What's up with the youth? What's up with

41:30 youth? Shannon? Well, what's uh? I can almost hear the song.

41:35 That's an original composition by Corey Feldman. Shannon, how dare you but

41:39 the beat the reckless? Uh? Do you know where the beat is from?

41:47 On? What's up? You? Thankin's bad? What's up? Who's

41:54 bad? Michael Jackson? Oh, Michael Jackson bad by Michael Jackson. Right,

42:00 Well, that would make sense that Corey Feldman idolized Michael Jackson. Okay,

42:04 So I don't know this stuff. I don't I don't have cable,

42:07 I don't read the paper, right, listen to the radio stuff? Huh,

42:09 don't know? That's where I get my rapa hear that Corey Feldman,

42:19 he was spitting some rhymes in that part. Did you know that he could

42:22 rap? No? No, no mean either from listening to that, he

42:27 clearly cannot. No. I can do a better job than that. Yeah,

42:31 go ahead, go ahead, spit some bars you what's up with you?

42:43 Spit some bars about what's up with the youth? Shannon? You can

42:46 do it? What's up with the youth? Could you gotta learn the freestyle?

42:53 Shannon? You mean like your mimics, your impressions, my impressions,

42:59 that's a completely different subject. Police is doing impression of somebody. My impressions

43:04 are masterful, they are thank you. Uh huh, I know point the

43:09 young people say that right, reckless on point. He's dozing off on the

43:15 loved state. What Hey, that was years ago. Hey, we don't

43:20 bring that out. That was years ago. There's a different time of my

43:23 life. Shannon. Well, now you've done it. Now I'm going home.

43:29 I'm going to the next gig. Yes, all right, Shannon,

43:31 by bye bye. She never did tell us beef. Now you get all

43:37 you're beefing with chipping Now now she's off the phone, y'all got beef.

43:39 Y'all is beefing, beefing. I like to say it with a deep voice,

43:44 beefing. Police in the chat room says, this is like the waiting

43:47 room in purgatory. Oh, purgatory. That's where don Imus is. As

43:52 we as we learned recently, Isaac Banks says Shannon in the eighties. Eighties

43:58 movie of stand By Me was Will Wheaton aka Gordon. I don't remember if

44:02 Will Wheaton is one of the names that Shannon mentioned. I was too busy

44:06 jamming out to What's Up with the Youth by the great Corey Feldman. So

44:12 yeah, so do you have to It's almost the top of the hour.

44:14 Do you have to go? It's time to wrap it up. We want

44:15 to make me at least yeah. We want to make sure before you go

44:21 that we plug everything. So where are you gonna be tonight? Tonight?

44:23 I am at SNHU. Tomorrow, I'm at the hop not hope to see

44:30 you there, everybody. It's gonna be fun. Yes, yes, I

44:32 don't exactly think you've seen me. DJ sounds like twenty twenty one and I

44:38 had a Windows laptop. Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

44:42 that's right, that's right, You're right. Yeah, yeah, guys.

44:45 And then every Thursday Murphy's Tap Room. Yep, it's a wild one.

44:51 Yep, yep. Five dollar green tea shots, two dollar bud Lights,

44:55 five dollars Cheetos, five dollars Cheetos, Chitos, Oh, Titos. I

45:00 thought I said Cheetos. Yeah, unfortunately, else ts. That'd be fun

45:04 if you could get like, well, no, actually five dollars for a

45:06 bag of Cheetos would be expensive, but Titos. That's good. It's great

45:12 for me, very good. And where should people go online to follow you?

45:16 Instagram at dj R E k L s s dj reckless very good,

45:22 and you have, but you have a separate one for reckless university. Correct

45:25 say it's it's literally reckless university type practis university in the sound into the bar

45:30 and there it is. All right, very good, very good, Well,

45:34 thank you, thank you for coming in. I'm gonna get to a

45:37 break and we'll let you scoot. I think I'm gonna play What's Up with

45:38 the Youth? Uninterrupted by Corey Feldman because look, it's uh, the guy's

45:44 got a show coming up in the area, so it might as well.

45:45 Big show, masks. It's gonna sell out all right, DJ Reckless,

45:50 thank you so much. Give give this a listen, and then we'll show

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46:50 numerow dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w

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47:15 info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Friday, September twenty

47:21 second, twenty twenty three. My favorite day of the week here, it's

47:23 my long day at WMNH and I do love it so not only am I

47:28 on this show but of course tonight I'll be on Retro Spectrum Radio with Paulyc

47:31 as we do every Friday night right here from WMH ninety five point three FM,

47:36 and tonight we will be joined by Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the

47:39 Randletts, making a return to the show for this evening, so looking forward

47:43 to that as well. That'll be really cool. Thank you again to DJ

47:45 Reckless for joining us during the first hour, and I do want to remind

47:50 you that tomorrow night, DJ Reckless will be Djane at the Hopknot from nine

47:53 pm to midnight as the Hopnot our amazing sponsors they celebrate their their four the

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48:04 sponsor and to have that association. It's a wonderful thing. They've got those

48:07 delicious gourmet pretzels, they have an assortment of craft beer. They've also got

48:10 stuff going on during the day tomorrow. I would be remiss if I didn't

48:14 mention that too. They've got some great musicians. Tomorrow one pm they have

48:20 Matt Litzinger will be performing live. At three pm they have Jasmine Man,

48:23 and then at four pm they have michaela Horn. So they've got a few

48:28 live performers tomorrow, and then they're going to close from five to eight for

48:30 a few hours to get ready for the evening, and then they'll be reopening

48:34 at eight pm for a dance party with big gay events and a set from

48:38 DJ Reckless from nine pm to midnight. That is all happening tomorrow night at

48:43 the hop Knot. So Jenny and I will be there at some point and

48:49 we'd love to love to meet you if you want to come on down enjoy

48:52 some delicious gourmet pretzels and some craft beer, and wish the hop Knot a

48:57 happy birthday. Also, if you're just joining us, just a couple of

49:00 notes about today's show for anyone who's puzzled, if you're at all confused.

49:07 We did have a musical guest stop plan for today, the duo Crooked Cash.

49:12 We're going to be making the return of the show today, but one

49:15 of the guys reached out to Jenny first thing this morning to let her know

49:19 that he had a family emergency. So hopefully everything's okay. Completely understandable,

49:22 of course, so we will rebook them. I'm sure Jenny will rebook those

49:27 guys for another day, but I hope everything is okay. They're very talented

49:31 musicians but also a couple of really good guys too. I really enjoyed meeting

49:35 them the last time that they were here, so but so we will have

49:38 them on in the future, I promise. Also, we don't have Eric

49:42 Pilter's classic film review. We're going to have that on Monday instead. Eric

49:45 has been suffering through an internet outage. Apparently in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

49:52 Some city workers accidentally cut a line that they shouldn't have or something that it

49:57 knocked out the internet in Eric's neighborhood. So he's been kind of dead in

50:01 the water as far as getting the film review together. So he's gonna work

50:05 on it this weekend and we will have that on Monday. But in the

50:08 meantime, we have lots to discuss. Let's see and actually let me refresh

50:15 the Facebook here will. I do want to say helload everybody in the Facebook

50:21 live chat. And speaking of chat, by the way, too, I

50:22 did mention on the show yesterday and I did take Paul C's suggestion, so

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52:00 thank you again to police for making that suggestion. I do love it.

52:05 Let's see, we'll say, I'll let everybody in the Facebook lave chat.

52:07 We'll see who we have in here. Oh, hello to Carrol Zowarrowitz who

52:10 joins us. Also Isaac Banks, whom you might recall. He's from Greensboro,

52:15 North Carolina. He says, ri ip Corey Hame while he died a

52:21 number of years ago. And the oh, there were two seasons of the

52:25 Two Corries. Oh so I had the name right. The reality show that

52:30 Corey Haman Corey Feldman did it was the Two Corries. Isaac Banks also said

52:35 hashtag Matt Connerton, Corey Feldman, and Corey Hame were in Michael Damien's video

52:39 of rock on Oh Yes, Yes, And I believe we've played that on

52:45 retro Spectrum Radio with policy. I believe Paul played that song one week.

52:49 I don't remember what the subject was, but I believe that song was played

52:53 policy of course in the is in the Facebook lave chat and encouraging me to

52:59 crank up the What's Up with the Youth by Corey Feldman. Melanie implored me

53:06 to stop answering the phone. No, no, no, Isaac Banks says,

53:08 hashtag DJ Reckless. You can check out is Heidi Lenhart Facebook live page?

53:15 Well a suggestion there for DJ Reckless, the Heidi Lenhart Facebook like page.

53:20 I'm not sure who Heidi Lenhurt is. Let's see. Jay fed joins

53:27 us in the Facebook live chat, also from the Great State of Vermont.

53:29 Hello, Isaac Banks, says Shannon in the eighties move Oh I read that

53:34 already. Sorry, never mind, all right, Paulice says, referring to

53:39 the song. Well, we were playing earlier while Shannon was on the line.

53:45 This is what happens when you're waiting in line for the waiting room.

53:47 When you're in there, it's just it's just Corey. It's Corey Feldman,

53:53 little boy. Let's see ye. And we talked about two briefly. Paul

54:01 mentioned when he called in that Corey Feldman is going to be doing a speaking

54:06 engagement that our friend Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the Randletts will be attending,

54:10 and Paul said regarding that, wtf could he possibly talk about for three

54:15 hours that wouldn't make people run for their lives? Yeah, I don't know.

54:19 I mean, I've seen I've seen over the years some interviews with Corey

54:22 Feldman, and based on the interviews that I've seen of him and also his

54:30 you know, he's made appearances on The Howard Stern Show over the years and

54:31 whatnot, based on that, I could not imagine paying money to actually hear

54:38 him talk and give some sort of presentation. I honestly cannot imagine it.

54:43 Miriam Banish in the chat room says, is this the song that never ends?

54:46 L ol? Referring of course, to What's Up with the Youth by

54:49 Corey Feldman, which I did play earlier. Actually, Miriam, it's funny.

54:52 The song I think is only about three minutes long, maybe three and

54:55 a half at the most, but it does feel like it goes on and

55:00 on and on and on and on. Yeah, So I understand everything's relative,

55:04 but I understand what you're saying. Oh, Isaac Banks says, good

55:08 afternoon, Tammy Cochrane, how are you doing my love? Oh? Isaac

55:15 and Tammy Cochrane. Wow, that is scandalous. Isaac Banks also says hashtag

55:20 Matt Connerton. Heidi Lenhart is a actress and singer from the TV show.

55:25 She did a band of California Dreams on NBC after Saved by the Bell on

55:31 NBC. Okay, I thought the name was vaguely familiar, but I really

55:37 couldn't be sure. Six zo three two five six seven is a studio line

55:40 if you would like to join us today six three two five six seven.

55:45 We do have some political news to get to, but this is just one

55:49 other thing. Regarding yesterday's show, I want to correct something that I said

55:55 that I later realized was kind of ridiculous, but not anything political. It

56:00 has to do with a comment I made regarding music. So we had a

56:06 great guest yesterday, Rick Perry from the great State of Texas. In fact,

56:10 I would say that Rick Perry from the band Iron Jaw, probably the

56:15 second most famous Rick Perry from the State of Texas. He joined us first

56:22 via Skype, and then Skype became an issue, so then via phone.

56:24 But I love that band Iron Jaw, what a great band. Well,

56:28 you'll you'll be hearing more of them on the show in the future. But

56:30 you know, they've got kind of a they've got a sound where you know

56:32 you can hear their influences. Definitely Judas Priest, Iron Maiden bands like that,

56:37 and I think it was so, you know, we talked a little

56:40 bit about that. Of course, we talked about influences. And then Shannon,

56:44 this was because of a Shannon called Shannon happened to call afterward, and

56:46 I don't remember how the subject came up, but I assume it had to

56:51 do with my conversation with Rick Perry. Shannon said something about Bruce Dickinson and

56:55 how in the nineties Bruce Dickinson had left Iron Maiden and did some solo material

57:01 and the comment that I made that I realized later was so absurd, and

57:05 I just want to correct myself. I said something about, Yeah, I

57:08 was talking about Bruce Dickinson's solo material. I think he did maybe three albums

57:14 and then went back to Iron Maiden. Three solo albums, maybe only two,

57:16 No, I think there were three, and then and then he went

57:21 back to Iron Maiden. But the comment that I made was I said,

57:22 yeah, Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff sounds a lot like Iron Maiden, so if

57:27 you like Iron Maiden, you'd probably like his solo stuff. But a specific

57:30 song came up in the conversation. It was a song Tattooed Millionaire. Shannon

57:36 mentioned it and then just for the hell of it, last night, late

57:39 last night, I was like, you know, I haven't heard that song

57:43 in so long, and I always really loved that song. So I played

57:45 it and as I'm listening to it, I realized, this song doesn't sound

57:52 anything like Iron Maiden. And that's what I realized. I'd made a completely

57:55 ridiculous comment. Now, granted I didn't say that all of Bruce Dickens solo

58:00 material sounds like Iron Maiden, but to imply that that's basically what Bruce Dickinson's

58:07 solo material is, that's not accurate. Some of his solo material certainly sounded

58:13 like Iron Maiden, but the song Tattooed Millionaire sounds nothing like Iron Maiden.

58:17 And when I realized that I hadn't listened to it in so long, I

58:21 just I felt ridiculous. I mean, this does not sound, if anything,

58:23 this song. I'm just gonna play a little bit of it. I'm

58:25 not gonna play the little thing, but if anything, at least the verses

58:29 Bruce Dickinson, the way he sings, he actually sounds like Brian Johnson from

58:34 ac DC and on this particular song, which is very un Bruce Dickinson like,

58:39 but nothing about this sounds like Iron Maiden. And I'm listening to the

58:43 song because I always loved this song and I hadn't heard it in so long,

58:45 And then I'm like, I can't believe I made that comment about how

58:49 his solo stuff sounded like Iron Maiden. There's nothing here. Let's listen to

58:52 this already that sounds nothing like Iron Maiden right now. If you didn't know

59:16 who that was and you'd never heard that song before, and I said,

59:20 who do you think this is, what would you say? You would say

59:22 Brian Johnson era ac DC, Right, that's what that sounds like. Doesn't

59:27 sound anything like Iron Maiden. I do love the song. Maybe I'll play

59:42 the whole thing at the end of the show today. Maybe that'll be our

59:44 closer anyway, So I was listening to that last night and I'm going,

59:46 I can't believe I made that comment that his solo material sounds like Iron Maiden.

59:50 That's clearly not that doesn't sound like Iron Maiden. Like I said,

59:53 if I played that for you and you didn't know, you would think it

59:55 was a CDC. Right, If you'd never heard that song before in your

59:59 life, you wouldn't be sitting there going, yeah, oh that sounds like

1:00:00 Iron Maiden? Is that is that Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden? You would

1:00:04 never think that. So anyway, I wanted to correct that, So maya

1:00:07 culpa, and Bruce Dickinson, if you happen to be listening, I apologize

1:00:10 if I if you in any way felt that I was dismissive of your solo

1:00:15 material saying that it was just, you know, a bargain a bargain version

1:00:20 of Iron Maiden. That's not what I meant to imply. Or maybe I

1:00:24 did mean to imply it in the moment, but then I realized later how

1:00:27 stupid that was. All right, we'll get into some more serious matters in

1:00:34 a moment, but let me give the studio line again. Six zero three

1:00:36 two five zero six zero seven six three two five zero six O seven.

1:00:42 My friends, Bob Menendez a name that you might have been hearing today.

1:00:49 If you have been paying attention to the news Senator Bob Menendez of the Great

1:00:53 State of New Jersey when I heard his name today, because he's in a

1:01:00 bit of trouble. You know, when I heard his name today, you

1:01:02 know what I was reminded of, the first thing that I was reminded of.

1:01:05 I was reminded of the year twenty seventeen when this show, well not

1:01:10 this show, but this version of the show that airs here on WMH ninety

1:01:15 five point three FM, was in its relative infancy, and I was talking

1:01:21 about Bob Menendez. See, I have a really good memory for details about

1:01:24 some things. And as soon as this story broke today about Bob Menendez and

1:01:31 the ethics trouble that he's in, and he looks like he's really in it

1:01:35 this time, the first thing I thought of was I remembered in twenty seventeen

1:01:39 talking about the ethics trouble that he was in then. And I remembered it

1:01:45 was twenty seventeen, because I remembered exactly where I was when I was talking

1:01:51 about it on the show, because it wasn't in this room. Because when

1:01:55 I first came to wm ANDH, we were still doing we were still doing

1:02:00 the live radio shows in a different studio, in a smaller studio that's on

1:02:04 a different floor in this building. And I remember being in that room talking

1:02:08 about Bob Menendez. And I even remember I remember being in that room talking

1:02:15 about Bob Menendez and wondering out loud to the audience, when is this guy

1:02:21 gonna end up in jail? Because that's this is not the first time he's

1:02:24 been in ethics trouble, and it seems pretty serious. And of course he

1:02:30 did not end up in jail. He was tried. He was not acquitted.

1:02:36 However he was. It was a hung jury, and that's it.

1:02:40 That's how we got away with it. Well, it's now twenty twenty three

1:02:46 and it's all caught up to him in a big way. But that was

1:02:50 the first thing I thought of us. I said, wow, I remember,

1:02:52 I remember talking about Bob Menendez in twenty seventeen in the old studio I

1:02:59 was, I remember vividly. It's weird how I can remember certain details about

1:03:01 certain things that would seem insignificant, and yet for some reason, they're just

1:03:07 seared in my mind. But I think I did the whole, the entire

1:03:10 show that day, the whole two hours about Bob Menendez, but he's really

1:03:15 in trouble now. Politico has the story up Egypt, guns and money and

1:03:22 oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, Egypt, guns, money and power at

1:03:25 the center of Menendez indictment publicity. I'm sorry publicly a critic of Cairo.

1:03:32 Privately, prosecutors allege the senator used his influence to benefit Egypt. Here's what's

1:03:43 going on if you've missed it. The indictment of Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat

1:03:50 of New Jersey today accuses one of the most powerful senators shaping American foreign affairs

1:03:54 of using his perch to enrich himself and exploit the complication relationship between the United

1:04:01 States and Egypt. It is a story about guns, money, and power

1:04:06 that strikes at the fraud sector of American diplomacy. Menendez denies any wrongdoing,

1:04:15 saying prosecutors quote misrepresented the normal work of a congressional office unquote and attacked him

1:04:21 and his wife. But if the allegations are proven, they will represent a

1:04:25 damning account of how American foreign policy an automatic toward an autocratic ally was compromised

1:04:31 for several years, for years for venal reasons. By the way, it

1:04:38 is interesting is his allegation against the prosecutors that they and again quoting, misrepresented

1:04:45 the normal work of a congressional office. What's particularly interesting about that is that

1:04:50 one would not necessarily expect that the quote unquote normal work of a congressional office

1:04:58 would involve gold bar literal bars of gold and cash, cold cash, cold

1:05:05 heart cash. Again literally you know the kind of cash you put in your

1:05:10 freezer so no one thinks to I guess that's what people do. They put

1:05:14 cash in their freezer when they're trying to hide it from the authorities, because

1:05:17 obviously, you know, if law enforcement, if the FBI shows up for

1:05:21 a raid, they would never think to look in your freezer. It seems

1:05:25 cliche, but apparently that's what they did. They were putting money in the

1:05:28 freezer tucket behind the ice cubes. I guess, you know, tens of

1:05:36 thousands of dollars. And I'm not sure that. I mean, do most

1:05:42 Americans assume that that is the normal work of a congressional office, as Menendez

1:05:47 claims. I mean, not that anyone should be surprised necessarily. I mean,

1:05:53 I do think Americans generally assume that our politicians, at least at that

1:05:57 level are somewhat corrupt, and I think everyone new Menendez was corrupt. But

1:06:00 oh, don't get me wrong. Of course, you know, he used

1:06:04 to be afforded the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. But this time it

1:06:09 really does look like it's going to stick. I remember in twenty seventeen again,

1:06:15 I think I spent an entire two hours on it one day on the

1:06:16 show, really digging into it, and it seemed like, definitely he and

1:06:23 his wife had done something dirty, and we're taking bribes. But the whole

1:06:28 scheme seemed a little bit convoluted in a way that one could understand why a

1:06:32 jury might find it difficult to find their way to a conclusion that he and

1:06:38 his wife. I don't remember if she was actually on trial he was,

1:06:42 I don't remember if she was as well, but she's been entangled in all

1:06:45 of this with him right along. It would seem I could see at the

1:06:48 time how it might be difficult for a jury to get to the conclusion beyond

1:06:51 a reasonable doubt that he had done something illegal. Clearly he had done something

1:06:59 unethical, but not everything that's unethical is necessarily illegal. Certainly, especially in

1:07:05 politics, there are a lot of things that are unethical that maybe should be

1:07:09 illegal, but they aren't necessarily so so I could see at the time,

1:07:15 how you know, it was easy to understand why it was a hung jury.

1:07:19 But this is this is he's not going to get away with it this

1:07:24 time. Let me put it that way, all right, So continuing on

1:07:27 again, this is the article from Politico which explains it pretty well. Egypt

1:07:30 receives about one point three billion per year in foreign military financing, but by

1:07:36 law, tranches of the AID are conditioned upon Egypt's progress on human rights concerns,

1:07:43 as determined by the State Department. Whether Foggy Bottom clears, the aid

1:07:46 is often subject to a regular tug of war between lawmakers, the advocacy community,

1:07:51 and the executive branch. Traditionally, the State Department is honored request to

1:07:56 delay grants and weapons sales from the chair or the ranking member of the Senate

1:08:00 Committee. Menendez, who has served as the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations

1:08:05 Committee since twenty eighteen, has often been a public critic of the Egyptian government,

1:08:12 rapping the Trump administration for inviting Egyptian president elcc abdel Fatah LCC If I'm

1:08:19 saying that correctly, for a state visit in twenty nineteen and pressing then Secretary

1:08:25 of State Mike Pompeio to raise human rights concerns with the leader, But federal

1:08:30 prosecutors claim Menendez was playing a different role behind the scenes. This is where

1:08:35 it gets. This is where it gets a little, uh, crimey.

1:08:40 Is that a word? Crimey? Not grimy? Crimey? I suppose he

1:08:43 could say grimy. In an indictment published Friday today, this just happened today.

1:08:48 This is breaking news almost. I mean it's a few hours old.

1:08:51 But prosecutors claim that Menendez accepted money, a luxury car, and gifts including

1:09:01 gold, from three New Jersey businessmen in return for helping them and Egypt's repressive

1:09:10 regime. Prosecutors also claimed the New Jersey Democrat gave sensitive information about US diplomats

1:09:16 and Cairo quote that secretly aided the government of Egypt, and improperly advised and

1:09:23 pressured unquote a US agricultural official to safeguard a contract for one of the businessmen

1:09:30 to be the exclusive purveyor of halal meat to Egypt. According to the indictment,

1:09:38 let me just say this, anytime you've got meat involved, there's something

1:09:45 not right. Here. That's a long standing I learned that from watching NYPD

1:09:53 Blue or something. I don't know. It's an old Younger listeners are like,

1:09:58 what, what are you even talking about? Law and order? That

1:10:00 would be a more contemporary reference. Even though that show has been on for

1:10:02 decades, it still exists, I think, right, I don't really watch

1:10:05 much TV. Allegedly, Menendez, starting in mid twenty eighteen, privately maintained

1:10:12 close relations with Egyptian officials and businesspeople and readily shared sensitive information with his associates

1:10:17 about US policy toward Cairo. In May twenty eighteen, Menendez allegedly disclosed to

1:10:25 Hannah, that's one of the businessmen at a private dinner that a US government

1:10:29 ban on sales of small arms and ammunition to Egypt has been lifted, which

1:10:32 Hannah passed on to the Egyptian official. Later that month, Menendez allegedly ghost

1:10:40 wrote Cairo's lobbying pitch to other US senators seeking support for the release of three

1:10:46 hundred million dollars in USA to Egypt. In July, after meeting with Egyptian

1:10:50 military officials, Menendez allegedly had his wife Nadine, tell Hannah that he was

1:10:56 signing off on the sale of forty six thousand target practice rounds and ten thousand

1:11:04 rounds of tank ammunition worth ninety nine million dollars. By the way this goes

1:11:12 on, we're going to continue it. But I'm just I'm wondering a rhetorical

1:11:15 question. You don't have to answer you the audience, But is anybody other

1:11:20 than myself wondering at this point? How did he ever believe he would get

1:11:26 away with all of this? Did he assume that everyone is so dirty that

1:11:33 everyone does it? And why would he be any different? Is it arrogance?

1:11:41 Is it delusions of grandeur or some form of mental illness that makes someone

1:11:45 believe that they can do all of this and no one's going to catch on,

1:11:50 and no one's going to investigate after he already in twenty seventeen narrowly avoided

1:11:58 being convicted and sent to prison. So Menendez allegedly said in a text to

1:12:08 Nadine, which she forwarded Dahnah quote, note these tank rounds are for tanks

1:12:15 they have had for many years. They are using these in the Sinai for

1:12:19 the counter terrorism campaign unquote. The State Department two months later announced it had

1:12:26 approved the sale of the package of General Dynamics made high explosive and armor piercing

1:12:32 rounds to help Cairo fight Islamic State militants and the target rounds to train M

1:12:36 one Abrams tank crews. Adrian Watson, the White House National Security Council spokesperson,

1:12:44 said no comment when contacted for this story. Spokespersons for the State Department

1:12:48 did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Egypt's ambassador in Washington also said

1:12:58 no comment. Menendez is also accused of intervening in Egyptian diplomatic entanglements and pushing

1:13:04 for the US to put its finger on the scales for Cairo after taking a

1:13:09 meeting with an Egyptian official dubbed the General. Prosecutors alleged Menendez waded into a

1:13:15 long standing diplomatic dispute between Egypt, Sudan, and Ethiopia over access to the

1:13:21 Nile River and a large Ethiopian dam project near the river's source waters. Oh,

1:13:30 by the way, side note, Jfed just said in the chat,

1:13:33 I hate to tell you, Matt, but I looked it up and there

1:13:35 is no internet outage in Eric Pilcher's town. But wait a second. JFED

1:13:45 wanted to be the new film reviewer. So he has a motive for saying

1:13:49 something like that, I don't know who to trust anymore. I don't know

1:13:54 who to trust. I mean, I know who not to trust, Bob

1:13:57 Menendez. The construction of the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam has long been a top

1:14:05 foreign priority for Egypt, as Cairo depends on unfettered water flows from the Nile

1:14:12 to sustain its population, which is almost entirely concentrated along the rivers Delta and

1:14:16 Banks. Writing in April, Jaft says, I blame Bruce. I do

1:14:23 as well. Writing in April twenty twenty two, then Secretary Stephen Manuchin in

1:14:28 Pompeo to express concerns over quote stalled negotiations between Egypt, Ethiopia, and the

1:14:32 Sudan over the dam. Menendez called on the administration to quote significantly increased the

1:14:40 State departments engagement on negotiations around the dam. According to the indictment, Menendez

1:14:45 in February twenty eighteen reclaimed his post as the Top panel's top democrat, just

1:14:51 days after the Justice Department dropped different corruption charges against him. Okay, so

1:14:58 those were the twenty seventeen charges. February of twenty eighteen, the charges were

1:15:00 finally dropped after the hungjury and all of that. At that time, Menendez

1:15:06 was accused of intervening in a Dominican post contract dispute to benefit a Florida ophthalmologist

1:15:14 and a businessperson who had given Menendez a large campaign donations. Oh, that

1:15:18 part I remembered wrong. And by the way, I'm not saying this would

1:15:21 be funny. This literally is true. It's not a joke. I thought

1:15:25 it was. I thought it was a dentist Menendez was. There was a

1:15:30 part of this whole scam Menendez was running in twenty seventeen. It was actually

1:15:33 an optimologist, an eye doctor. Menendez voluntarily stepped back from the job in

1:15:40 twenty fifteen after he was charged, with an understanding from then Senate Minority Leader

1:15:45 Harry Reid that he would be reinstated if cleared of charges. It's unclear if

1:15:49 Menendez will step back from his role this time around, or if he did,

1:15:53 who would temporarily replace him as chair. By the way, I believe

1:15:56 he already stepped down as chair, so that must have happened after this was

1:16:00 published. So again, this might not be quite up to the minute,

1:16:03 but it's a really good explainer, although it doesn't get into the gold bars

1:16:12 part in this article. Now, something related to this so that I happened

1:16:15 to see and I didn't get a chance to preread this, but this popped

1:16:18 up on media. How will MSNBC handle its Menendez family conflict of interest?

1:16:26 I don't know what this part's about, but you know I'm interested in all

1:16:29 things media, So let's look at this. It says here Senate Foreign Relations

1:16:31 Committee Chairman Bob Menendez was indicted on bribery charges for alleged crimes committed as part

1:16:36 of a scheme involving his wife, Nadine, the Egyptian government, and three

1:16:40 New Jersey businessmen. Prosecutors for the US Attorney's Office in the Southern District of

1:16:44 New York charged Menendez with having quote promised to and did use his influence and

1:16:48 power and breach his official duty in ways that benefited the government of Egypt unquote.

1:16:59 Besides the Nndez clan itself, Friday's news could also be trouble for MSNBC,

1:17:05 the cable news network where Alisha Menendez, the forty year old daughter of

1:17:12 Bob Menendez, hosts a weekend show called American voices with Alisha Menendez awkward.

1:17:23 The most obvious question that comes to mind is, quote, will MSNBC allow

1:17:26 Menendez to address the scandal in any way unquote. One might be quick to

1:17:30 assume the answer is an easy no. But if CNN's handling of the Andrew

1:17:34 Cuomo sexual misconduct cases any indication that assumption can't be taken for granted. Let

1:17:40 me stop there for a moment, because if I remember correctly, in the

1:17:45 case of CNN Chris Cuomo, when he was still there, he did not

1:17:51 address his brother's sexual misconduct case, but others on the network did, but

1:17:58 Chris Cuomo did not on his show, which I thought was completely appropriate.

1:18:01 By the way, I thought that made sense for Chris Cuomo not to get

1:18:04 into it because it is his brother, So you wouldn't expect Chris Cuomo to

1:18:08 be able to report on it objectively in any way, and you know why

1:18:14 even put him in that position. From what I recall, I might not

1:18:16 be remembering that exactly accurately, but that's what I recall. It says here.

1:18:21 In March twenty twenty one, after the allegations against him first came to

1:18:26 light, CNN hosts Chris Cuomo opened his show by acknowledging that he was quote

1:18:30 aware of what's okay. This is exactly what he said. He was aware

1:18:33 of what's going on with my brother. Obviously I cannot cover it because he

1:18:38 is my brother. Now, of course CNN has to cover it. They

1:18:41 have covered it extensively and they will continue to do so. I've always cared

1:18:45 very deeply about these issues and profoundly, so I just wanted to tell you

1:18:47 that. Unquote again, I think that's perfectly I mean, I have a

1:18:53 lot of other there are things about Chris Cuomo that bother me, but not

1:18:56 that that I thought was completely appropriate at the time. But it says here

1:19:01 the lines got blurrier from there. That may it was discovered that Cuomo was

1:19:06 advising Oh see, I forgot about this part. I completely forgot this.

1:19:11 This is pretty important. Actually, it was discovered that Cuomo was advising his

1:19:15 brother on how to handle the scandal. CNN called this inappropriate given his position,

1:19:20 but did not take any action to discipline him. Eventually, it was

1:19:24 revealed by the New York Attorney General's Office that Chris Cuomo would use this position

1:19:29 atzy an end to gather intel and possible accusers against his brother while working hand

1:19:31 in hand with his staff. It kind of goes on from there. But

1:19:39 so now the question is how will MSNBC handle this. And my I would

1:19:46 I mean my suggestion and my thought would be, either you simply don't I

1:19:51 mean Alicia Alicia Menendez, she just says a show that Arizon weekends, you

1:19:57 know, once a week on the weekend. So she can only so many

1:20:00 things in her limited a lotment of time to begin with. So I would

1:20:03 say, have her either ignore that there's always a million other stories, just

1:20:06 don't cover obviously she's not going to cover something involving her own parents, or

1:20:13 have her address it similar to the way that Chris Cuomo did and then move

1:20:16 on from it. But that would be my thought. But yes, but

1:20:20 Bob Menendez in a lot of trouble. Now. The one other thing,

1:20:24 I do want to make sure that we get in before we run out of

1:20:27 time, because it's already almost twenty minutes of And this is some breaking news.

1:20:31 This is from the Hill dot com. Kevin McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine

1:20:35 money from Pentagon bill after a Marjorie Taylor Green no vote. Now we'll look

1:20:45 at the substance of the article in a moment. But for anyone who hasn't

1:20:48 been following, this been a hell of a week for Kevin McCarthy House Speaker.

1:20:54 Looks like we're headed for a government shut down at the end of the

1:20:57 month. It looks like Kevin McCarthy might get voted out by the You know

1:21:02 these House Freedom members who are just itching for a reason to what do they

1:21:11 call that. There's a specific term, procedural term for a vote to remove.

1:21:17 It's not a removal vote, though, there's another term. It escapes

1:21:20 me, it'll come to me. It might be here in the article.

1:21:24 So he's got all kinds of trouble while all of this is happening. Funding

1:21:30 to continue the effort, the war effort in Ukraine, to continue to supply

1:21:32 the Ukrainians with what they need that hangs in the balance because the Republicans can't

1:21:41 figure out how to how to get this done with the budget. And by

1:21:45 the way, this is all after McCarthy made certain promises. There was already

1:21:48 a budget deal agreed to to avert a debt default, which thank god,

1:21:53 we got through that. But now McCarthy is in a position where if he

1:21:58 gives into the House Freedom Caucus. He can't keep his word to the president

1:22:02 on that budget deal that they that they passed, that they agreed to to

1:22:06 raise the debt limit. I should say, to be more precise, it's

1:22:11 he's in a terrible position. Part of me feels some sympathy for him,

1:22:15 and part of me thinks, well, this is what you get, Kevin.

1:22:21 While all this is happening, you've got Voladimir Zolenski visiting the United States,

1:22:28 but Kevin McCarthy refused to have his picture taken with him publicly. He

1:22:34 did meet with Zelenski, which was also a reversal because before McCarthy wasn't even

1:22:41 going to meet with Zelenski. Even though Kevin McCarthy, and we all know

1:22:44 Kevin McCarthy, you know, there's nothing he says that actually means anything.

1:22:48 I mean, look at January sixth. You know, he he condemned Trump

1:22:54 after January sixth, and then next thing, you know, he's does a

1:22:58 complete reversal and he's going down tomorrow ago and posing for a picture with him.

1:23:00 He posed for a picture with Trump right after January sixth, right not

1:23:03 long after. But you know, he says he says whatever he needs to

1:23:09 to try to survive, to get through another day, as how speaker,

1:23:11 because that's what matters to him above all else. So he has said recently,

1:23:15 relatively recently, how important it is to continue to support Ukraine, how

1:23:20 that is vital, vitally important, and we do have an American interests there

1:23:25 and that we must stay the course with that. But now because he's at

1:23:29 the mercy of people like Matt Gates and Lauren Gropert Bobert, sorry, and

1:23:36 even Marjorie Taylor Greene whom he seems to have this alliance with, but she's

1:23:43 making his life more difficult suddenly as well. Now he's refusing to have his

1:23:48 picture taken with Zelenski, although he did meet with Zelenski and somebody managed to

1:23:54 get a picture on their phone. So even though McCarthy, acting very cowardly

1:23:59 refused used to have his picture publicly taken with Voladimir Zelenski, somebody snapped a

1:24:04 picture as they met privately. So good, I'm glad. But now,

1:24:12 oh McCarthy is hedging on support for Ukraine. Now before we get to this

1:24:16 article, though, I have something very important to say about this said,

1:24:18 I don't hear any anybody else pointing out For those of you, Look,

1:24:23 if you're a long time listener, you know my position. I believe in

1:24:26 supporting Ukraine. I believe we have to stand up to Putin, can't let

1:24:28 Putin get away with this, and so forth. However, I've also always

1:24:32 been sympathetic to some of the arguments in the other direction, concerns about tensions

1:24:36 with Russia, because nobody wants things to escalate in a way that could be

1:24:42 very bad for all of us, and some other reasons too. I've been

1:24:45 sympathetic to those other arguments, and but I have remained firm in my position

1:24:50 ultimately that we must stay the course. But I would just like to say

1:24:54 this to the people who hear this. McCarthy is now saying he's going to

1:25:01 vow he's now vowing to strip any further support for Ukraine out of the budget,

1:25:08 and we're going to effectively McCarthy is now saying that's it, We're going

1:25:13 to abandon Ukraine. I would just say to the people who think that that's

1:25:16 a good idea. If you're someone who you're on the other side of the

1:25:19 issue, look, reasonable people can disagree. I feel about the merits of

1:25:27 us getting directly involved in this. Again, I think we did the right

1:25:30 thing. I support President Biden in this, and all of the many,

1:25:34 many, not just Democrats, have been pretty united in this. Republicans have

1:25:39 not been. But I think a majority of Republicans in the House and Senate

1:25:45 also support standing by Ukraine. And that's great. But but some of the

1:25:53 concerns, again, not all of the concerns. Some of these Republicans who

1:25:58 have pushed back on it, some of them are just playing pro Russia.

1:26:01 Let's just call it what it is. Reagan would be spinning in his grave.

1:26:06 I have no doubt, but some of them are sympathetic to Russia,

1:26:12 and I think the reasons are obvious. But let's not even get into that.

1:26:16 But I want to say to the people who think that what McCarthy is

1:26:19 doing is correct and they're happy about this, because if you're if you're someone

1:26:24 who doesn't think we should have ever gotten involved in this to begin with,

1:26:27 I'm talking to you. I want to say to you those of you who

1:26:31 feel that way, while I respect, well, I disagree with your position,

1:26:36 but I respect your position and I understand and respect your concerns. But

1:26:40 having said that, at this point, At this point, even if you

1:26:46 felt at the beginning of all this that we should have stayed out of it,

1:26:50 at this point, does it not do more harm than good for us

1:26:56 to walk away and abandon Ukraine after we've all been so invested, literally invested

1:27:03 in helping Ukraine try to fend off Russia. Because even if your initial position

1:27:10 was we shouldn't be doing this, we've already done so much, have not

1:27:15 we already gone too far to turn back. Because even if you don't think

1:27:20 we should have been a part of this to begin with, now that we

1:27:24 have been for so long and so much, won't it actually hurt America's national

1:27:30 interests more for us to pull back now and abandon Ukraine. Think about again,

1:27:36 even if you're someone who disagreed with us getting involved, think about how

1:27:41 it's going to look for us now now that we already were involved, now

1:27:45 that we've been so involved, to just walk away now, how does that

1:27:51 make us look to the rest of the world. And by the way,

1:27:54 look, if you're some sort of neo isolation as I understanding, you don't

1:27:56 care about how we look to the rest of the world. And let's be

1:27:59 honest, there are a lot of people who take that attitude too. They're

1:28:00 the same people who think that we shouldn't be a part of the UN because

1:28:04 oh, we're America and we should be on our own and not care what

1:28:08 anybody thinks about us. But we have to care what other people think about

1:28:12 us, because we're all a part of the world, and we have economic

1:28:15 interests and national security interests to require us to have somewhat of a positive relationship

1:28:18 with at least some of the rest of the world. So, but even

1:28:23 if you feel that way, does it not hurt us more at this point

1:28:27 to walk away? Even if look again, I'm talking to you, even

1:28:31 if you don't care at all about Ukraine, even if you could not care

1:28:38 less about Ukraine, even if you're one of those people who thinks that Ukraine

1:28:42 got what they deserved and you believe the Russian propaganda. Maybe maybe you're Tucker

1:28:46 Carlson and you actually believe in and promote the Russian propaganda. Right, even

1:28:53 if you're that person. At this stage of things, if we walk away

1:28:59 now, isn't it going to be even worse for us? Because it signals

1:29:04 to putin If we walk away and abandon them now, it signals to putin

1:29:13 Hey, just bleed us, bleed us dry. We will lose patience,

1:29:18 we will lose our solidarity with the rest of NATO. You can wade us

1:29:25 out. You can wade us out. America is weak enough that you can

1:29:29 wait us out. And here's the other thing. What does it say to

1:29:33 Ji Jing Ping of China if we walk away? Now? It says,

1:29:40 hey, you want Taiwan, go ahead. America might try to defend Taiwan

1:29:45 for a little while, but in the long run, nah, forget it.

1:29:50 That's what it says to him. I'm telling you it is very dangerous.

1:29:55 It is far more dangerous dangerous for us to walk away than it is

1:30:00 just stick around, in my opinion. And Mike Doyle's on the line him,

1:30:03 Mike, hey, man, how's it going. I'll be quick because

1:30:06 I know you're running out of time. Yeah. Hey, I can't remember

1:30:10 what your theory was on Afghanistan. But isn't that the same theory? You

1:30:15 know, all the time we put into Afghanistan and money and years and deaths

1:30:19 and et cetera, And you know, was it was it better to pull

1:30:25 out or stay there? And well, I guess the same same theory as

1:30:29 you're you're saying now, Well, very very different situations in some ways though,

1:30:34 because in Afghanistan we were directly and like we weren't supporting, We weren't

1:30:39 simply supporting. We were actually there on the ground and fighting for twenty years.

1:30:44 But my feeling with Afghanistan is, well, it's not not really a

1:30:48 binary choice of of getting out or staying. I think I think that it

1:30:53 was the right idea to get out, but I think it was done very

1:30:58 very poorly, and I don't think we should have necessarily gotten out completely.

1:31:01 I think we should have kept Bogram Air Force Base. It didn't make any

1:31:04 sense to me why we would give that up, other than Biden was worried

1:31:11 about you know, well, then it would look like we haven't really left.

1:31:15 But I think we should have kept maybe twenty five hundred troops there.

1:31:17 I think we should have lessened our footprint there, but I think we should

1:31:20 have kept a minimal presence and at least held on to Bogram Air Force Base.

1:31:25 And I was very critical of Again, I thought getting out was a

1:31:29 great idea. Previous presidents had pledged to get out and then didn't do it.

1:31:33 But I thought the way that it was done was a disaster. I'm

1:31:38 trying to remember some of the words I used at the time. I think

1:31:41 I recall saying it was buffoonery the way it was handled, and uh,

1:31:45 I was pretty critical and uh and I still am. I'm still angry about

1:31:49 it the way it was done. Yeah. And the other point I wanted

1:31:54 to make is a lot of a lot of the both Republicans with Democrats that

1:31:59 want to continue to fund Ukraine. I don't want to fund Ukraine or have

1:32:02 a different strategy for funding Ukraine. They're they're they're worried because a lot of

1:32:09 a lot of the people nobody, nobody else is helping. I guess is

1:32:13 what you're saying, Like Poland just said no more, we're done. Oh

1:32:15 that's another given you. Yeah, that's that's another thing that has me very

1:32:19 worried. Mike. By the way, and I had given Poland a lot

1:32:21 of credit in the past, because if you remember when when this first happened,

1:32:27 Poland really opened their arms for taking in refugees from UH, both from

1:32:31 Ukraine and from Russia, people who are fleeing because they didn't want to get

1:32:35 drafted. And and Poland was so helpful and now all of a sudden,

1:32:40 Poland is is basically walking away and they're they're a member of NATO, and

1:32:45 it's like, uh, this is not this is not good. I'm very

1:32:47 worried that that we're just gonna walk away all of us. Not just says

1:32:54 there's other countries. I was reading about it. I can't remember who they

1:32:57 were, but I was they just don't want to say it, you know,

1:32:59 because they're barras. Yeah, but Poland came out. Poland came out

1:33:01 and said it. Yeah. And the other argument, the other argument is

1:33:05 spending all of these billions of dollars approaching trillions of dollars on Ukraine's border versus

1:33:14 putting that kind of money into our border, which obviously is becoming a little

1:33:17 bit of a crisis with these cities and you know, the homeless and all

1:33:21 that stuff. And so that's those are the aguments I hear from from people

1:33:27 of why they don't want to they don't want to continue to fund Ukraine.

1:33:30 So I just wanted to throw that in. Sure. Yeah, no,

1:33:32 And like I said, I mean, I respect the concerns that people have

1:33:38 about it, but I really feel, well, what do you think,

1:33:41 Mike, I think that for us to walk away now, regardless of how

1:33:45 you felt about it when we first got in, I think for us to

1:33:48 walk away now, I think it's just too late, I think, and

1:33:51 I think it emboldens Putin, and I think it emboldens Xijing Ping if we

1:33:56 walk away now too, So that that bodes that bodes what many people have

1:34:00 been saying all along. Stop with the increments to Ukraine and give them everything

1:34:06 they need to win the war in the next months or two months, and

1:34:11 end, you know what I mean, and get their get their country back.

1:34:14 We're just we're you know, snippeting in money here and money there.

1:34:18 Whenever they run low and they're running, you know, just stop it.

1:34:21 Just end it go full for us, get in there, call NATO in,

1:34:26 say NATO, you're with us. Let's just stop this. Well,

1:34:29 but that's that's yeah, that's the other argument, I know. But we

1:34:32 do have to be. Something that I do give the Biden administration credit for

1:34:36 on this is I think it's I think it makes sense to be cautious,

1:34:41 especially in the early stages of this because one thing that we all must remember,

1:34:45 uh, is that we are dealing with when you're talking about Russia,

1:34:50 the largest nuclear power in the country. They have even more nukes than us.

1:34:55 Not of course, at a certain point it doesn't even matter because it's

1:34:58 so much nukes, it's enough to destroy the world multiple times over. But

1:35:00 so I think it. I think it makes sense to be cautious. And

1:35:03 I know that for example, with long range missiles, which I guess now

1:35:09 we are going to be sending them long range missiles, but I remember that

1:35:12 there was a concern earlier on that what if we give them these and even

1:35:16 if it happens by accidents, say, long range missiles are now being shot

1:35:20 into Russia, directly into Russia by Ukrainians, and then we're the ones who

1:35:27 supplied them those missiles. Then someone, uh, you know, whether it

1:35:31 be Putin himself or one of his advisors, might say, oh, look,

1:35:33 the Americans are giving them long range missiles that they're now using to attack

1:35:38 our cities inside Russia. Does that cause an escalation? And so I think

1:35:44 it makes sense to be very cautious and not just say here, we're just

1:35:47 going to give you everything. You can't understand the other argument, though,

1:35:51 just get it done. Oh, I understand it, I understand it.

1:35:56 But I but again, I do worry about. There's a lot that can

1:36:00 go wrong. Yeah, no, oh absolutely. But if NATO all got

1:36:05 together and said we're all in, every country's gonna send their top forces,

1:36:11 we're gonna end this once and for all. Putin. So your choice,

1:36:15 We're gonna give you a week make a decision, or we're coming in.

1:36:17 We're all coming in. We're gonna protect Ukraine and we're gonna drive you back.

1:36:21 Done deal, you know, then put the Then the onus is on

1:36:25 him to make a call. You know, is he is he that much

1:36:28 of a dead one's death or does he? Does he fear the threat that

1:36:31 it's legit? And you know what I mean? Just I don't know.

1:36:35 Just there there's all these different questions. So yeah, I mean, it's

1:36:40 it's complicated stuff. But I wouldn't. I would not. I mean,

1:36:43 if you're suggesting NATO just everybody starts sending actual ground forces in that I would

1:36:48 definitely oppose. I don't know, it doesn't have to be ground, could

1:36:51 be air, could be long range missiles. I mean, just everybody just

1:36:56 say, finally we're in. We're all in. This is NATO. I

1:37:00 know, it's not a country that is in NATO. But we're going to

1:37:01 protect them because you know whatever, and just we're all coming in all together,

1:37:10 Europe, Asia, anybody who's in NATO, US, Canada, they're

1:37:14 all coming Australia. I mean, just stop the drip of money, money,

1:37:17 money, and some missiles, a little few missiles here and a few

1:37:19 missiles there. You know, this thing's just lingering on. How long can

1:37:24 Russia last? I mean, they're having kids fight now. They took their

1:37:27 prisoners out of jails, they put them on the front line. Somebody said

1:37:30 they're starting up use women who want to sign up. I mean, at

1:37:33 one point, does Russia just you know, say hey, all right enough,

1:37:38 I can't go against thirty one other countries that are in NATO, and

1:37:42 and you know, so that's just an argument. I hear of people saying

1:37:45 that's why they don't want to send any more money, because it's just a

1:37:48 drip, drip, drip versus let's just end it one way or the other.

1:37:51 Get in or get out, finish it or get out. So that's

1:37:56 all I understand. I understand both sides, and just it's a question.

1:38:00 Yeah yeah, all right, Mike, Well yeah we are, we are

1:38:02 about out of time. But I do, but I but I do appreciate

1:38:04 the call in your thoughts. Thank you. Yeah, have a good weekend,

1:38:08 all right, Mike, you two take care bye bye. All right.

1:38:12 That was our friend Mike Doyle. And yes, we are just about

1:38:15 out of show, so we're gonna wrap up. But yeah, I don't

1:38:19 but yeah, just for the record, just briefly, I don't. I

1:38:21 understand the point that Mike's making, but I don't. I don't agree with

1:38:25 I would not, under any circumstances, support NATO directly confronting Russia over Ukraine

1:38:32 because that that could escalate into something where, well, let's just be very

1:38:36 blunt about it, where we all end up dead. I'm not willing to

1:38:41 take that risk. I'm not willing to you know, I'm willing to support

1:38:45 Ukraine. I'm not willing to die for Ukraine. Forgive me if I sound

1:38:48 selfish, but no, and you know, there might be something to it.

1:38:51 I mean, maybe Putin would back down. Mike might be right.

1:38:55 Maybe Putin would back down and say, wow, they're really serious. I

1:38:59 have no choice now, But maybe he wouldn't. And uh, that could

1:39:04 that could go bad very quickly. All right, but we do have to

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