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Matt Connarton Unleashed: Eli Lev
Speaker 1: That is catchy as hell. That is bigger bus. We
Speaker 1: need a bigger bus, Eli Lev, who are going to
Speaker 1: be speaking with me in just a moment. What's up?
Speaker 2: I need a giant canvas.
Speaker 1: That's a well, seriously, I want to go paint to that.
Speaker 1: That's so much fun. I love that great, great song.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from
Speaker 1: the studios of w m MH ninety five point three
Speaker 1: FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can
Speaker 1: stream the show at Matt connorton dot com slash Live.
Speaker 1: Today is Saturday, September fourteen, twenty twenty four. And let
Speaker 1: me get that mic up there. We have Eli Lev
Speaker 1: with us live in studio.
Speaker 3: Hello here, yo yo yo.
Speaker 1: Sounds good? Sounds good? Yeah, I love that song. This
Speaker 1: just came out relatively recently, right president Journey of the EP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a couple months ago. We are on the
Speaker 3: present journey right now, it's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You're on a big tour, right yep? How many? How
Speaker 1: many dates?
Speaker 3: Well, really, this whole year has been a big long tour.
Speaker 3: This particular one is a fall tour, going up to
Speaker 3: Canada and back it's about us six weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, excellent. Now where do you? Where do you
Speaker 1: go from here? Yeah?
Speaker 3: From here, I'm going to Lawrence, Massachusetts, then up to
Speaker 3: Maine and then up to Quebec, then back down be
Speaker 3: in New Hampshire again, coming back down Vermont. And I
Speaker 3: got to play in Rhode Island. I've never been. I've
Speaker 3: never been Roeland. That was the last state that I
Speaker 3: had never played in. So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so tiny, it's easy to miss.
Speaker 3: It's so tiny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last state you hadn't played in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've played in all US states except Rhode Island.
Speaker 4: Stop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the That was the last one.
Speaker 1: Usually you think the last one is gonna be like
Speaker 1: Hawaii or like Alaska. Yeah, no, really, Rhode Island.
Speaker 3: Crazy good on you to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We live in a beautiful country. It's absolutely incredible being
Speaker 3: able to really get the sense of like the consciousness
Speaker 3: of folks you know, north south east West, and I've
Speaker 3: been able to play tunes and and share share moments
Speaker 3: with them. It's been cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. You've been at this a while, I assume.
Speaker 3: Right, No, Actually I'm a former middle school teacher.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just I started picking up the guitar
Speaker 3: and doing this full time about six years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, I was watching I was watching another
Speaker 1: interview that you had been on a podcast. You had
Speaker 1: been on an My impression is that you're really a
Speaker 1: business minded guy and that it's important to you. And
Speaker 1: I bring this up because it's a subject that we
Speaker 1: talk about a lot on the show. You know, we
Speaker 1: interview obviously a lot of musicians and other people in
Speaker 1: the industry, and something that we talk about a lot
Speaker 1: is the importance of really being kind of business minded
Speaker 1: about your career. You know, obviously, the creative part of
Speaker 1: it is the most important thing, and without that there
Speaker 1: is nothing else to do really with it. But but
Speaker 1: if you're not business minded about it, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a short career or you know, you could play music
Speaker 1: all your life. But you know, if your goal is
Speaker 1: to get out on tour like you're doing, you've got
Speaker 1: to really kind of pay attention to the business side
Speaker 1: of it. And it seems like you've really got to
Speaker 1: handle on that.
Speaker 3: You brought up spreadsheets when I came in. You're like, bro,
Speaker 3: I love your attention to spreadsheets. I'm like, yes, we're
Speaker 3: going to get along just fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, my spreadsheet database is insane, Like if you
Speaker 3: looked in there on my Google Drive, you'd be like,
Speaker 3: what is this guy like an astronomer? Is it taking
Speaker 3: all the information from? But yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that part.
Speaker 1: Was that your approach right from the beginning, when you
Speaker 1: decided to take the plunge and do this and leave
Speaker 1: be in a middle school teacher behind and everything.
Speaker 3: No, but I realized very quickly that I needed it. Y.
Speaker 3: You know, I would even argue that in today's musical landscape,
Speaker 3: probably that side of it is more important than the
Speaker 3: creativity aspect of it, strangely enough, because there are so
Speaker 3: many talented folks out there, But how many of those
Speaker 3: talented folks are really going to like put in the
Speaker 3: time to like make a business out of it, make
Speaker 3: it organized, you know, follow up, be professional with folks?
Speaker 3: Not very many. So if any creative can do that,
Speaker 3: you've already got this gigantic leg up. Yeah what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that really helped kind of like jump start, yeah,
Speaker 3: jump start my career in the Maryland area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if you don't approach it that way,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, if the tree falls in the forest,
Speaker 1: you know, if if you don't if you don't do
Speaker 1: that part of it, then if nobody hears your music.
Speaker 3: Nobody hears it. Yeah, exactly. It.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because there's always people who will tell you, well,
Speaker 1: I don't really care that much. I'm doing this for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing cool for other people. That's great, but
Speaker 1: I'm all, yeah, it is. But I'm also always a
Speaker 1: little skeptical when I hear someone say that. It's like, really,
Speaker 1: you kind of do want people to hear what you're doing,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. I think music can be you know,
Speaker 3: a variety of things. Like for some folks they just
Speaker 3: like writing songs, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 3: a form of therapy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Some folks just want to share shilly songs with friends
Speaker 3: and family. That's great. Yeah, And some folks like want
Speaker 3: to do the thing, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: if you want to do the thing, then it's just
Speaker 3: it's all in. Yeah, I mean, go for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what was the Was there a particular moment
Speaker 1: where you made that decision? To uh, to do this
Speaker 1: full time instead of continuing with your career as an educator,
Speaker 1: or was it something that you were thinking about over
Speaker 1: time or was there was there something that kind of
Speaker 1: pushed you to say, no, I'm going to do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get a little spiritual.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, that's fine, We're getting there.
Speaker 3: Everything there all right. So come with me, Matt to
Speaker 3: a beach on the west coast of Mexico, north of
Speaker 3: a town called Salulita, Okay. And it was my last
Speaker 3: semester of grad school from a master's in English, and
Speaker 3: I had a two week winter vacation and I went
Speaker 3: on Google Maps and I picked a beach in Mexic.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna go there for two weeks and
Speaker 3: just camp out. Bring my guitar. So that's what I did.
Speaker 3: And I started playing songs, and you know, the waves
Speaker 3: started listening. You know, the trees were kind of like
Speaker 3: vibing with me. The sand was like kind of happy,
Speaker 3: and I kind of like just took a moment and
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, thanks for a great life. This
Speaker 3: has been amazing. You know, creator or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it. The rest is in your hands. I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you let me know what's next, and I will
Speaker 3: let go and go all in on whenever that is.
Speaker 3: And you know, as things were kind of listening and
Speaker 3: getting viby, they were like, you should try this music thing,
Speaker 3: you know, try to try to sing some songs, record
Speaker 3: them and see what people think. And I recorded my
Speaker 3: first demo in Indiana six months after that, and I've
Speaker 3: been following the bread crumbs ever since.
Speaker 1: No kidding, no kidding. That's awesome. Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was like a moment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, like is this gonna happen? Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's let's be up for it. And then you know,
Speaker 3: music kind of just has shown the rest of the
Speaker 3: way excellent.
Speaker 1: You ever have any doubts along the way, like when
Speaker 1: when you when you kind of took the plunge, did
Speaker 1: you ever have moments.
Speaker 3: Where you really like, you know, when you get into it,
Speaker 3: it's like, you gotta be ready to play shows to nobody.
Speaker 3: You gotta be ready to think your hit song is
Speaker 3: going to be a hit but nobody likes it. But
Speaker 3: the song that you didn't think that no one would
Speaker 3: like would be your hit song. You gotta be ready
Speaker 3: to you know, just you know, bust, bust your bottom
Speaker 3: and getting tickets sold to a show, and you know
Speaker 3: maybe the band that you wanted didn't come or like,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe like it just didn't you know,
Speaker 3: every song didn't work out exactly as you want. So yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent along the way. And there's imposter syndrome
Speaker 3: as as you're entering into a new identity. But that's
Speaker 3: that's with everything. So yeah, yeah, but the music's been
Speaker 3: carrying me, which has been.
Speaker 1: Great, outstanding, and you've recorded quite a bit, right in
Speaker 1: that relatively short time.
Speaker 3: Court On was forty songs. Yeah, that's that's a lot released.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so excellent, and that the one that we played.
Speaker 1: We need a bigger bust from Present Journey. That's when
Speaker 1: did that come out? In June? That's relatively new.
Speaker 3: Right, very new? Yeah, yea yeah, yeah. So my first
Speaker 3: project was Four Directions based on my time as a
Speaker 3: teacher on the Navajo Nation and Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then this project is three worlds, so Present Journey
Speaker 3: will be one, then Past Lives and then Future Myths.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, I think in the thematic units, Yeah, a
Speaker 3: teacher of course.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah, that's very cool. Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to hear you if you want to do it, play
Speaker 1: something for us, and uh, I'll kind of off to
Speaker 1: ride the faders a little bit as we actually go
Speaker 1: ahead and strumble a little. Let's make sure we gotta well,
Speaker 1: there we go, there we go.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: So, Matt, do you remember cassette tapes vividly? Do you
Speaker 3: remember very much?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: One, what do you how to use the pencil and
Speaker 3: how to rotate the Oh? Yeah, so we're going back
Speaker 3: to the days of cassette tapes and pencil sharpeners for
Speaker 3: this song. And do you remember like the first like
Speaker 3: mixtapes where you recorded the radio and recorded other tapes
Speaker 3: onto tape, you wrote the song names on the back
Speaker 3: and you gave to someone you know, a friend, and
Speaker 3: you know your relationship would last at least another week
Speaker 3: or two.
Speaker 1: At least.
Speaker 3: And you know, I remember my first mixtapes, and I
Speaker 3: bet if you go back, if you could find your
Speaker 3: first mixtape and listen to them, it would probably take
Speaker 3: you back exactly to that emotional mindset that you were
Speaker 3: at at that age.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Music has that power kind of thing, absolutely, So I'm
Speaker 3: going to tell you my first mixtape, and just a
Speaker 3: list of some of these bands. You remember them. So
Speaker 3: my first mixtape was it was Johnny Cash and Fleetwood Mac,
Speaker 3: but also Bruce Springsteen YouTube and mc hammer YEP, New
Speaker 3: Kids on the Block, Chris Cross and Duran. Duran was
Speaker 3: also yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was I think Flock
Speaker 3: of Seagulls there as well. So just a wild range
Speaker 3: of songs. And I'll remember that tape forever because I
Speaker 3: put it in my tape recorder and I just listened
Speaker 3: to it over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 3: listening and catching the words to all the songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So this song is called singing Along for the First Time, Okay,
Speaker 3: and it's about that first mixtape.
Speaker 1: All right, wonderful, here we go.
Speaker 3: It was the age of eight when I played in
Speaker 3: the tape and I heard a voice going through you
Speaker 3: was singing loud and singing.
Speaker 4: Strong to the words.
Speaker 6: I barely knew.
Speaker 3: I was hanging on to the edge of the song,
Speaker 3: waking up all my senses.
Speaker 4: Hunt time, I'm singing along for the first time.
Speaker 7: Oh who, for the first time, I'm singing alone.
Speaker 4: For the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, will I've been hearing songs since I came along
Speaker 3: on radio and TV, but this one song when it.
Speaker 4: Came off, felt like it just for me.
Speaker 3: Now I'm singing along for the first time, for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and it was Springsteen in the Street, Cash
Speaker 8: in summer Heat.
Speaker 6: Willie on the Road, the cob in the co Stevie
Speaker 6: in my room, learning in every line of that tune.
Speaker 4: And when the chorus came, it was my chance to
Speaker 4: get up and start to danswer.
Speaker 8: W where.
Speaker 4: Here we go?
Speaker 2: I'll sing alone for the first time now for the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 4: Yet, it were Springsteen in the Street, Cash and summary,
Speaker 4: will Leave on the Road, the Coban in the cour
Speaker 4: Steviie in my room, learning every line of that tune.
Speaker 1: And when the.
Speaker 4: Chorus came, it was my chance. I'm singing for the.
Speaker 3: First time, for the first time, I'm singing along for
Speaker 3: the first time.
Speaker 1: A fantastic, fantastic That is Eli Love is here with
Speaker 1: us live in studio if you are just joining us
Speaker 1: and playing some playing some live tunes for us. And
Speaker 1: do you remember the first song you ever wrote?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: How old were you?
Speaker 3: I was thirteen? Yeah, it's from middle school talent show
Speaker 3: and it was called my white underwear go get it,
Speaker 3: and I performed it in front of an entire auditorium
Speaker 3: that had my grandparents in it. Yeah, and it mostly
Speaker 3: consisted of me just screaming into my wad underwear over
Speaker 3: and over again. Yeah, huge hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get back to that moment ever since, right, right, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what started my career in music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome. How many songs have you written?
Speaker 1: Do you think? I know you said you've recorded about
Speaker 1: forty right, Wow.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Yeah, let's go back. How many songs do
Speaker 3: you think I've written? I think probably finished songs probably
Speaker 3: about two hundred. Okay, I think maybe like half finished,
Speaker 3: probably like three hundred. Yeah, and I think like ideas
Speaker 3: probably about a thousand.
Speaker 1: No kidding, Yeah, just out there. Yeah, you seem like
Speaker 1: someone who would be pretty prolific. Yeah, were you when
Speaker 1: you were still teaching? Were you already writing a lot?
Speaker 3: Or I was? You know, songwriting has always been like
Speaker 3: that friend, that's just right there. You know. The guitar
Speaker 3: has just been like kind of like a something to
Speaker 3: have a conversation with. Yeah, I mean, times are great,
Speaker 3: times not so great, and all in between, so you know,
Speaker 3: it's just you know, I think back, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: probably about like more than a thousand times. There's been
Speaker 3: like some voice memo that I've taken of, you know,
Speaker 3: some idea or a title or like an emotion or anything.
Speaker 3: So quite the uh yeah, quite the body of work,
Speaker 3: but not like you know, half finished work right right?
Speaker 1: And what and when you play is it? Is it
Speaker 1: always just you and the guitar? Do you ever have
Speaker 1: other musicians with you or yeah?
Speaker 3: I started, Uh, I did a full band Maryland. It
Speaker 3: was Elilev and the Fortunes found the first iteration, and
Speaker 3: then it was the Elilev Collective and it was Eli
Speaker 3: Lev Band, and then it'll be something else, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: But I love performing with other musicians. There's nothing like it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just being on stage and kind of like creating that
Speaker 3: musical space with folks. But on tour, I just kind
Speaker 3: of do. The solo thing keeps a little easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot easier really, right, because you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of opens up places you can play when you
Speaker 1: don't have a full band. And of course, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been in bands, and I know that the pain
Speaker 1: of dealing with everyone's schedules and all of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, tell me if I'm wrong. But like, being
Speaker 3: a band is like kind of being in like five
Speaker 3: relationship and those fire relationships also being in five different
Speaker 3: relationships at the same time. So you know, there's this
Speaker 3: wonderful family atmosphere, but there's everything that goes along with
Speaker 3: being in a family.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a great way. But that's absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get I love it though, I love
Speaker 3: I love performing with other musicians.
Speaker 1: The songs that that you had in these bands, I
Speaker 1: assume those those have survived and you still play those
Speaker 1: today or some of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all the songs are pretty much the
Speaker 3: ones that I recorded, just maybe I'll play them with
Speaker 3: a band or solo or duo. Yeah. When instrument did
Speaker 3: you play in the band?
Speaker 1: Bass?
Speaker 3: Bass? Okay, see, bass is the smartest instrument ever. Everybody
Speaker 3: goes and learns guitar wants to be the lead singer.
Speaker 3: But if you can play a bass, you'll get work
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. Oh yeah, and you want it.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, when I was, when I was really active playing,
Speaker 1: I don't play currently, but okay, you know I was.
Speaker 1: I was kind of sod after in the scene. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't because I was a great base. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very objective about, you know, my own
Speaker 1: sessing my musical ability. It was average. I was an
Speaker 1: average bass player, but I was a bass player.
Speaker 3: That is a hot commandity, exactly, exactly, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think I think drummers are the most in demand
Speaker 1: because you know, we we interview a lot of bands
Speaker 1: on the show, and okay, the drummer is always in
Speaker 1: ten different bands because there's no drummers.
Speaker 3: Right right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no basic drums. Yeah,
Speaker 3: remember that, kiddos, you want to make a currd music?
Speaker 1: Do you play on on what you've recorded? Do you
Speaker 1: play anything other than guitar? Do you stick to guitar
Speaker 1: and have other musicians.
Speaker 3: Or I do, yeah, play guitar, play piano. I play
Speaker 3: a native flute from Arizona. I do harmonica, mandolin, make percussion, noises,
Speaker 3: strange sounds of my mouth like whistling and who knows what,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I love making sounds.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah do you so? Do you do everything on
Speaker 1: on the albums?
Speaker 3: Or I work with different producers on the albums, so
Speaker 3: I like collaborate with in the studio, they'll do some instruments,
Speaker 3: I'll do some instruments. We'll bring in some other you know,
Speaker 3: kind of hired guns to rock the rest, and so
Speaker 3: it's a nice kind of a mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it's nice when you have the ability
Speaker 1: to play multiple things, and I mean that gives you
Speaker 1: a level of control that you wouldn't otherwise necessarily have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you're almost like a conductor, like
Speaker 3: of an orchestra. Yeah, I mean, like you get to
Speaker 3: really kind of imagine melody lines and different sounds and
Speaker 3: different instruments. So it's really it's really awesome. I love
Speaker 3: the process of kind of putting sounds together for a song.
Speaker 1: You enjoy being in the studio, I do because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of musicians. A lot of musicians just
Speaker 1: want to play live and they hate the studio or
Speaker 1: they're ambivalent about it. But yeah, if you actually enjoy
Speaker 1: the process, that's good.
Speaker 3: Fast Now I love it. Yeah, And like the different takes,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, oh, which take a
Speaker 3: we're going to go with? Yeah, it's it's a really
Speaker 3: wonderful process. I don't I'm not personally a producer, but
Speaker 3: I love working with and callabrity.
Speaker 1: Are you ever surprised because you're working with producers, are
Speaker 1: you ever surprised at what comes out?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 1: Do you ever have an idea for a song and
Speaker 1: you've written it and you you know what you want,
Speaker 1: you know what it's supposed to sound like, and then
Speaker 1: it ends up coming out very different and hopefully you're
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised when that happens. But do you ever have
Speaker 1: that happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I like to work with different producers,
Speaker 3: because they bring different sounds and different ideas. And you know,
Speaker 3: when I come up with a song, it's usually vocals
Speaker 3: and guitar or just vocals and piano. So watching it
Speaker 3: develop and bloom and blossom, like for example, like two
Speaker 3: days ago, you know, you record a song and then
Speaker 3: you get back a mix, you know, so it's like
Speaker 3: the first time you really hear what you recorded with
Speaker 3: all the instrumentation. And bro, I was listening to this
Speaker 3: first track of my upcoming album, Past Lives is called Echo,
Speaker 3: and it's about like hearing the echoes of our ancestors,
Speaker 3: like kind of coming in and you know, living with
Speaker 3: that knowledge. And I was like laughing and crying at
Speaker 3: the same time. Hearing a song come to life like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I'm just like, oh my god, this is amazing.
Speaker 3: So like having those visceral emotional reactions is like, is
Speaker 3: really cool. And you know, only the only people who
Speaker 3: heard that was my producer in me. Yeah, So having
Speaker 3: that special moment of like really being there like on
Speaker 3: this like creation is just awesome. So I love the studio.
Speaker 3: I love the process of creating songs too.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. Yeah. And you've made some videos, right,
Speaker 1: I saw I watched the Universal song, yeah, which is
Speaker 1: really cool. I love the song and the video is great,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, we were kind of talking earlier
Speaker 1: about you know, the music side of I mean the
Speaker 1: business side of it. That's important, right, making videos.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So what I did in the pandemic when everything
Speaker 3: shut down and all my tours were canceled is I
Speaker 3: went online and started live streaming. Yeah, and that's where
Speaker 3: the Levitator's community came and people were just looking for
Speaker 3: things to do. So we did participatory music videos. Okay,
Speaker 3: so people would uh video themselves. For example, I had
Speaker 3: a song called Dancing on the Lawn, so they would
Speaker 3: go outside and take a video of themselves. Dancing on
Speaker 3: the lawn essentially. Yeah, and the music video is levitators
Speaker 3: from around the world. We're talking Europe, Australia, Africa, Canada,
Speaker 3: South America sending in videos of them dancing on the lawn,
Speaker 3: all spiced together.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I did a participatory video with Chasing Daylight, with
Speaker 3: another one anywhere we Can Go, and I think I
Speaker 3: should do one with we need a bigger bus. You
Speaker 3: should like get like get like rent a school bus, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, and go around and pick folks up and
Speaker 3: just kind of like, you know, like film this party
Speaker 3: happening on a bus.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea.
Speaker 3: So it's really important because especially today and like we
Speaker 3: live in a visual kind of content world, so anytime
Speaker 3: that people can see your music, yes, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, is important.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, it's funny because there was a time
Speaker 1: when well, you know, some people still think today. Even
Speaker 1: I'll hear people say, oh, you know, I miss the
Speaker 1: days of music videos, you know, because they're thinking of
Speaker 1: it in the context of MTV. Yeah, it's like and
Speaker 1: some people just don't realize, you know, because they're maybe
Speaker 1: not paying attention that there's actually more music videos than ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are, we just don't see them.
Speaker 1: They're they're on YouTube, they're not on they're not on
Speaker 1: a table. But something we also talk about a lot
Speaker 1: on the show is, you know, with the pandemic, terrible
Speaker 1: experience for us all, but we have to find the
Speaker 1: silver linings where we can. And you know, you're a
Speaker 1: great example of what you did, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: you know, innovate and come up with ideas, you know,
Speaker 1: to keep people involved and keep people engaged. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's really cool. Yeah, I'm dying to hear you
Speaker 1: play another one. You want to play another song.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do that universal song, the one
Speaker 3: you're talking about with the music.
Speaker 1: Video wonderful and if you are just joining us, Eli
Speaker 1: Love is here with us live in studio and I
Speaker 1: do love this song. So yeah, whenever you're.
Speaker 3: Ready, let's do it. All right, all right, So imagine
Speaker 3: like Eurovision, it was not just for Europe, but it
Speaker 3: was like for the whole galaxy. Like there's like a
Speaker 3: Milky Way Eurovision, and then imagine there's like a Universal
Speaker 3: song contest where the Key Way would sending their entry
Speaker 3: and the Andromeda Galaxy, who's sending theirs? And what that
Speaker 3: song would sound like. So this, this song kind of
Speaker 3: explores that possibility. I was on a train in the
Speaker 3: middle of the city. Saw a girls sitting on the
Speaker 3: floor with their headphones on.
Speaker 4: She was homing a tube, looking as happy.
Speaker 3: As as she could be, nodding ahead and closing her
Speaker 3: eyes and singing. And the song she was singing.
Speaker 4: Na, and the sun broke through the window.
Speaker 3: Now everyone's songing alone.
Speaker 4: She got everybody.
Speaker 5: Singing that you and n versu songo, yeah.
Speaker 4: Singing it all day long. I was on a cruise
Speaker 4: in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 3: I was sitting alone out a table for two. The
Speaker 3: band was on a break because the singer.
Speaker 4: He was late.
Speaker 3: But the second he got on stage started singing that
Speaker 3: same o too. He was singing nine No, No, and
Speaker 3: everyone got on the dance floor.
Speaker 4: They were shaking their hips.
Speaker 9: Nine.
Speaker 4: He got everybody singing that Uni Verso song.
Speaker 3: All let's bring the aliens or the fifth dimensional beings,
Speaker 3: whatever you prefer. Well. I heard on the news today
Speaker 3: that they made contact with outer space. The transmission was
Speaker 3: coming in loud and clear, and all the scientists and
Speaker 3: linguists and astrophysicists try to decipher the sound that was
Speaker 3: coming into their ears, but all the air it was not,
Speaker 3: and they started shaking their shoulders to.
Speaker 4: They all agree that that's.
Speaker 2: What we should do. Everybody in the world singing. We
Speaker 2: got the hands up in the air.
Speaker 5: Nowmic Badies getting along. Abody as seeing that universal so.
Speaker 4: Goes like this.
Speaker 9: Nine no no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: I love it. That's awesome, the universal song that is
Speaker 1: Eli love. He is here with us alive in studio
Speaker 1: on this Saturday morning, and that is great. And I
Speaker 1: do encourage people to check out the video. Video is
Speaker 1: really cool, really cool. So how is how's the tour
Speaker 1: been going? Any any interesting uh stories, any big surprises
Speaker 1: or or has it been has everything been been smooth?
Speaker 1: Or I love roads stories? If you have if you
Speaker 1: have any, and if you don't have any, that's actually
Speaker 1: a good thing. That means that means everything's going well generally.
Speaker 3: But plenty of stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I play every night pretty much, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: every night it's different, Like sometimes it'll be like last
Speaker 3: night I was at the basement of a church playing
Speaker 3: the opening set of an open mic. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: before that I was at this like amazing fancy fancy
Speaker 3: listening room winery thing, whereas like professional sound, you know,
Speaker 3: table service and all that jazz. And you know, the
Speaker 3: night before that, I was playing at this vegan restaurant
Speaker 3: in Vermont in Burlington, and it was like a Thursday,
Speaker 3: and it was a nice night out. So you never
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen you show up. It could
Speaker 3: be ten twenty fifty, who knows. But that night there
Speaker 3: was just a couple, oh no, kidd and they were
Speaker 3: out on a date. They came in and they're like,
Speaker 3: table for two please, I could tell you what I mean.
Speaker 3: They were in for the experience and it was just
Speaker 3: me and this couple and this waitress. And I was like, well, y'all,
Speaker 3: it's just us, so let's have some fun with this,
Speaker 3: you know. So we were chatting, we were making up
Speaker 3: songs together, you know, having a great old time. And
Speaker 3: then you know, they were a younger couple and they're like,
Speaker 3: can you play a slow dance song? And I was like, yes,
Speaker 3: I can play a slow dance song for so I
Speaker 3: played Van Morrison's Crazy Crazy Love She gave Me Love
Speaker 3: Love Love Love, Crazy Love, and they got up and
Speaker 3: danced and they were not good dancers, and they knew
Speaker 3: it and they were just having the time of their lives.
Speaker 3: It was just them in this empty restaurant with me
Speaker 3: and the waitress, and they danced the entire song. Wow,
Speaker 3: you know, just you know, missing steps and kind of
Speaker 3: fumbling and trying to do twisty things and like kind
Speaker 3: of knocking over little flower things whatever. But they just
Speaker 3: had a blast, and it was just a wonderful reminder
Speaker 3: that you know, it doesn't necessarily really matter what we
Speaker 3: look like or sound like or seem like on the outside.
Speaker 3: It's like how we feel the space, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean that moment and it was beautiful, Like I
Speaker 3: was like really emotional adverts. I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 3: is so sweet. Y'all the biggest sweeties and me and
Speaker 3: the wagers gave him a big, you know, round of applause,
Speaker 3: and they had an absolute blast. Yeah, you know, got
Speaker 3: some merch, I had a great tip. I made more
Speaker 3: in merch and tip that night with two people than
Speaker 3: sometimes I will with like thirty or forty, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So it just depends on getting into
Speaker 3: the experience, really holding it, being aware. So that happened
Speaker 3: just a few nights ago. I will always remember that
Speaker 3: and they made my night a VIP night too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's awesome. Well that's a positive roads story.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely I don't hear many of those, Okay. Usually
Speaker 1: it's like usually it's like broke down. Yeah, the van
Speaker 1: broke down, or we got to the place and toilet
Speaker 1: didn't work, and.
Speaker 3: You know, you know what I mean, we lost our
Speaker 3: band member. We drove away from the gas station and
Speaker 3: we realized two hours later, you're missing her drummer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're all kinds of terrible things. So it's
Speaker 1: good to hear a positive story like that. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. You want to play another one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Happy too? Do you want one more tune? This is
Speaker 3: from Present Journey as well. Okay, I also played this
Speaker 3: song for the couple. This one's called Love in the
Speaker 3: Middle Ages.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, this is I listened.
Speaker 3: I like this one.
Speaker 1: You like a lot.
Speaker 3: I like this one too.
Speaker 1: This is really good.
Speaker 3: Awesome, here we go.
Speaker 9: When I was in my early age, I heard him
Speaker 9: talk about Tula, so I started looking for where it
Speaker 9: could be. I ran from kisses in the third grade.
Speaker 9: DI did a girl in middle school.
Speaker 4: For ten days. I thought it would never come out.
Speaker 4: But I found love Middle Ages.
Speaker 3: It ain't always fireworks, and it comes in stages, and
Speaker 3: it takes courage and trust in it other. I know
Speaker 3: I found.
Speaker 4: What you love is. It's love in the Middle Ages.
Speaker 4: Love in the Middle Age.
Speaker 3: I chased love across the ocean, but I never knew
Speaker 3: what it was like to stay, what it took to
Speaker 3: really listen, how to compromise, and how to sing the sing.
Speaker 4: Now I'm oldly enough to see.
Speaker 3: I found love.
Speaker 4: Middle Ages. It ain't always.
Speaker 3: Firings, and it comes instages.
Speaker 4: It takes courage, trusting each other. I know I found
Speaker 4: what you love is. It's love in the middle Age.
Speaker 3: It love in the middle Age, and it's a trip
Speaker 3: to Duncan in the morning. It's knowing exactly what she's
Speaker 3: gonna say. It's getting cozy on the couch after.
Speaker 4: A long hard day.
Speaker 3: It's growing old together, figuring it out along the way.
Speaker 4: Because I found love the Middle Ages, It's not just fate.
Speaker 3: Or even the promise. It's something deeper, something stronger. I
Speaker 3: put down my sword and took off.
Speaker 4: My arm because I found love the Middle Ages.
Speaker 3: It ain't always fireworks, and it comes in stages.
Speaker 4: It takes courage, trust in each other.
Speaker 9: I know I found it.
Speaker 4: What you love, it's love.
Speaker 9: In the middle, love in the Middle Age.
Speaker 4: It's love in the middle Age.
Speaker 9: Love in the middle lady.
Speaker 4: M hm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That is beautiful. That is beautiful.
Speaker 3: Some sauce on it.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: I love is with a here live in studio on
Speaker 1: this Saturday morning on Matt Connorton unleashed and planned some
Speaker 1: tunes live for us And yeah, that's that's great. By
Speaker 1: the way, you in terms of your vocals, have you
Speaker 1: did you get formal vocal training or are you self taught?
Speaker 3: I did not. Yeah, I uh vocal I found out.
Speaker 3: I found out at the beginning of my career that
Speaker 3: your vocal chords are like muscles. Yeah, and you can
Speaker 3: train them. Yeah, you can get better. I did not
Speaker 3: have like a American idol. I still don't have an
Speaker 3: American ile voice. But it wasn't like people who heard
Speaker 3: me sing and were like, whoah, you should be famous.
Speaker 3: Never you know what I mean? Never in the thing.
Speaker 3: But after singing for almost every day for the last
Speaker 3: six or seven years, really developing into it, getting into
Speaker 3: the character and kind of like feeling in you know,
Speaker 3: what I really also found is just like just being unique,
Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily sounding like someone else, but just
Speaker 3: like whatever, the true voice is kind of letting that out, yeah,
Speaker 3: really kind of leaning into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do, you do things to take care of
Speaker 1: your voice, like you know, lemon and all that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so my tours, Matt, Like, I know, like there's
Speaker 3: this image of tours being like wild and crazy, I
Speaker 3: stand up and partying and stuff, but I'm an indie
Speaker 3: fault singer songwriter. Yeah, so that's not usually the case. So,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot of a lot of hydration.
Speaker 3: I'm drinking a lot of water, I'm drinking smoothies. I'm
Speaker 3: sleeping as much as I can. I'm going to plant
Speaker 3: fitness in the morning, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 3: doing vocal warm ups, I'm doing vocal cool downs. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, like doing the throat coat tea and kind
Speaker 3: of like you know, massoging all that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: because it makes me feel better, it makes me have
Speaker 3: better performances, and it keeps my voice. It's like what
Speaker 3: I'm doing is kind of like an ultra marathon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two hundred twenty five days on the road. You can't
Speaker 3: mess around, right, you know, what I mean. So, and
Speaker 3: I've had times where I've lost my voice. Really it's
Speaker 3: been tough, so I don't want to do that again.
Speaker 3: So you're absolutely right on that. It's like it's a
Speaker 3: very conscious effort to keep things going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're singing every day like that, yeah, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, is it literally every Like do you
Speaker 1: ever have a day off on your tour?
Speaker 3: Sometimes maybe like once a week, once every two weeks, yeah,
Speaker 3: but usually it's pretty packed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's good.
Speaker 3: It is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. Yeah. By the way, I'm also
Speaker 1: curious about your influences in terms of songwriting, because everything
Speaker 1: that you write, it's all it's so catchy. It really
Speaker 1: is exactly exactly like any who influences you as far
Speaker 1: as songwriting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I kind of like was formed by
Speaker 3: you know, Cat Stevens, Bob Doing, Joni Mitchell growing up
Speaker 3: like when I was really young. Yeah, you know, John
Speaker 3: Denver all that, all that kind of good stuff. But
Speaker 3: then you know, it's funny, Matt, because like I grew
Speaker 3: up in the grunge era. Yeah, like Stone Table, Pilots, Nirvana, Radiohead,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Read a chili Pepper is,
Speaker 3: like that was my music, and here I'm playing becausic
Speaker 3: guitar right, which is hilarious. But yeah, so that really
Speaker 3: influenced me too. In college, I got into underground hip hop.
Speaker 3: When I was living in Europe for a few years,
Speaker 3: I got into like dance beats, electronic music. When I
Speaker 3: came back, I got into modern day songwriters like you know,
Speaker 3: Noah Khan, you know boy Genius, you know, just kind
Speaker 3: of like these very straightforward kind of singing songwriters Jason Morez,
Speaker 3: you know, Jack Johnson, you know Ed Sheer and that
Speaker 3: that stuff as well. But also, you know, I got
Speaker 3: a little countryside yeah, you know, Jason Izbel, Tyler Childers,
Speaker 3: I like this singer song er named Hardy. He's really cool.
Speaker 3: So all that kind of comes together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Do you try to do you approach it
Speaker 1: like trying? It sounds like you probably don't necessarily try
Speaker 1: to have a particular sound, But what comes out is
Speaker 1: what comes out. I assume.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know that's wrong. I know I'm not supposed
Speaker 3: to do that, but I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's the best way to
Speaker 1: do it. Don't don't overthink it, just be that's the
Speaker 1: best way to be authentic, just to not overthink it,
Speaker 1: not to say I want to sound like this, but
Speaker 1: just sound like what you sound.
Speaker 3: Like, right. And I'm I'm not in the industry, I'm
Speaker 3: like industry adjacent, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 3: I'm like the DIY independent scene. So I don't have
Speaker 3: a manager that says you need to sound like this, right.
Speaker 3: So it's fun because I can just sound like whatever
Speaker 3: I feel like that day. I'm enjoying that. So I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna keep rolling with it.
Speaker 1: And is everything? Is everything self released or are you
Speaker 1: on any kind of a label or you just do
Speaker 1: it all yourself? Is that the best way to do
Speaker 1: it in your opinion, if you were to give advice
Speaker 1: to somebody who's aspiring to do what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, record contracts actually have never been like the
Speaker 3: thing that guarantees success, right. They can be you know,
Speaker 3: for the one percent of artists that you know, record
Speaker 3: contract is a really good thing for For the other however,
Speaker 3: many percent of it, you know what I mean, All
Speaker 3: sorts of things can happen. You can get shelved, the
Speaker 3: label can have another band that sounds just like you,
Speaker 3: and they signed you so that they could push the
Speaker 3: other band and not you. They could drop you after
Speaker 3: an album, they could keep you for ten albums and
Speaker 3: never release you. So it just didn't sound like something
Speaker 3: that would fit my vibe. So I kind of went
Speaker 3: on my own route. Now that's not saying that if
Speaker 3: the right record contract comes along, you know what I
Speaker 3: mean that I wouldn't I would like reject it necessarily.
Speaker 3: But you know, I've found that it's best to like
Speaker 3: do your own thing, make your own business, and then
Speaker 3: if that happens, great, but not to like bank on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know, and we're fortunate to live
Speaker 1: in an era where you really can do it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the Internet, you can. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when your only shot really
Speaker 1: was if you you know, you record a demo and
Speaker 1: then you send it to record.
Speaker 3: That was it because they had the equipment. There was
Speaker 3: no other way to record your music besides getting a
Speaker 3: record contract. So that would make sense because at least
Speaker 3: you have your music recorded. Yeah, But now, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: very accessible, which has pauses and negatives because everybody can
Speaker 3: do it, so you have to kind of like be inventive.
Speaker 3: A little bit right, So yeah it now it's like
Speaker 3: kind of about being creative.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, absolutely well, I think so as we
Speaker 1: as we approach the top of the hour singing, I'll
Speaker 1: play another studio track, the Honky Talk Truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 1: I think it would be a great way to a
Speaker 1: great way to end the segment. But yeah, but before
Speaker 1: we do that, I want to make sure that our
Speaker 1: listeners know where they should go online to keep up
Speaker 1: with everything that you're doing, and of course plug your
Speaker 1: next show too. You know, we're in Manchester, but we
Speaker 1: do have a lot of people who listen online, so
Speaker 1: we want to make sure everybody knows where to find you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome. So my name is Eli Love. It's E
Speaker 3: L I Space and then L E V as in Victory.
Speaker 3: You can type that into the Google machine and my
Speaker 3: website will pop up. All my website is all my
Speaker 3: music that's just freely available to stream with lyrics, and
Speaker 3: also my tour schedule. So I'll be in New England
Speaker 3: and Canada and a bunch of shows all over the world.
Speaker 3: Actually in February March, I'll be in the You and.
Speaker 1: You're oh no kidding good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, folks, were listening over there. I'll see you. I
Speaker 3: see you next year. And also on my website is
Speaker 3: a little button at the bottom that says join the Levitators. Yes,
Speaker 3: so you are welcome to join. It's just like a
Speaker 3: you know, an email texting list, but I send out
Speaker 3: songs and good vibes and keep people going and we
Speaker 3: do live streams together. I do folk Fridays. This is
Speaker 3: a great way to stay connected to a worldwide community
Speaker 3: of music lovers.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, that is outstanding. Have you played overseas? But
Speaker 1: you mentioned you lived in Europe? Did you have you
Speaker 1: played over there before?
Speaker 3: I've played shorter tours. I lived in a country called
Speaker 3: and Dora between Spain and France over there, so I've
Speaker 3: played shorter tours like a week in France or a
Speaker 3: week in Spain.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But this is the first like full on, two month
Speaker 3: like show every day kind of cheat.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Yeah, good for you. Yeah, that's that's exciting.
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll close out the segment with the Honkey
Speaker 1: Talk Truth another great song. But I like all of these,
Speaker 1: They're all really good. But Eli lev thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us.
Speaker 3: He having super fun.
Speaker 1: This has been amazing. Now we'll have to do it
Speaker 1: again in the future. Next time you're next time you're
Speaker 1: on tour through the area, we'll definitely we'll have you back.
Speaker 1: But uh and if you are listening live on Saturday,
Speaker 1: sick Aground coming up in the third hour, we have
Speaker 1: the rightful heirs joining us in studio. But here it is.
Speaker 1: This is the Honky Talk Truth from Present Journey by
Speaker 1: Eli Lev
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