Matt Connarton Unleashed: Gary Smith

0:00 Speaker 1: And Gary Smith is here with us live and studio,

0:02 Speaker 1: and Gary, you were here just recently with Jam.

0:04 Speaker 2: Tomorrow yepp, not too long ago with with MHP and

0:08 Speaker 2: Mark Yeah.

0:09 Speaker 3: Yeah.

0:09 Speaker 1: So I was listening to I was playing back the

0:13 Speaker 1: interview and one of the songs that you guys played live,

0:17 Speaker 1: I forget which one it was, but for one thing,

0:19 Speaker 1: I love watching you play because you play it's an

0:21 Speaker 1: eight string.

0:22 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it's an eight string guitar, so it's.

0:24 Speaker 1: Basically like you're playing, uh, it looks like you're playing guitar. Well,

0:27 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're playing guitar and bass at the

0:29 Speaker 1: same time. And one of the songs I'm listening to,

0:33 Speaker 1: I'm listening to your playing and it's almost like, you know,

0:37 Speaker 1: you're going back and forth, you know, between the bass

0:39 Speaker 1: notes and the guitar notes, and it's like it's almost

0:43 Speaker 1: like you're having a conversation. I don't know if if

0:45 Speaker 1: if that's how you've ever thought of it, or if

0:47 Speaker 1: anyone's ever pointed that out before, but I realized it's

0:50 Speaker 1: like it's like the two it's it really does sound

0:53 Speaker 1: like two instruments having a conversation.

0:56 Speaker 3: And I was fascinated by that I like that. Yeah,

0:59 Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of the goal.

1:00 Speaker 2: Ultimately, you know, it's kind of be like a left

1:02 Speaker 2: and the right hand of the piano, so they're kind

1:04 Speaker 2: of working together but still kind of complimenting each other

1:06 Speaker 2: along the way.

1:07 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's kind of the goal.

1:11 Speaker 1: Tell us about that track we just played emo EMU Yeah, sorry, yeah,

1:16 Speaker 1: no that speaking of birds, there's nothing there's nothing emo

1:19 Speaker 1: about it.

1:20 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know why I said that,

1:21 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's actually funny. The name came from a

1:25 Speaker 3: yeah stupid there.

1:26 Speaker 2: It's that kind of sounded like the old Weather Report

1:28 Speaker 2: song Birdland, and I'm like, oh, it's a bird emo.

1:32 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, songs an E minor so yeah. But

1:35 Speaker 2: but yeah, I know that's a song I wrote probably

1:38 Speaker 2: earlier this year. Uh, and me and Bob and Ryan,

1:41 Speaker 2: who were playing guitar and drums on that track, have

1:45 Speaker 2: played it a bunch of times.

1:47 Speaker 3: I do it my solo set too.

1:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, I played, I had a little piano for texture,

1:51 Speaker 2: I played, you know, bass and guitar. Bob added some guitar,

1:54 Speaker 2: and then last minute we added my friend Brian Murphy

1:56 Speaker 2: on the trumpet.

1:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love bob so at the end. Oh yeah,

2:01 Speaker 3: when that comes in, that's so good.

2:03 Speaker 2: It's just such a perfect I just just shread because

2:05 Speaker 2: mine's all like jazzy and nerdy, and then yeah, and

2:07 Speaker 2: then I just want him to just tread and he does.

2:10 Speaker 3: It's perfect.

2:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, the contrast of it and the texture that it

2:12 Speaker 1: adds to the song. When you can do that, when

2:14 Speaker 1: you can add like that kind of solo into something

2:18 Speaker 1: where it sounds different but it still fits so perfectly,

2:23 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's yeah, what a great track. And

2:26 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna play some others too that you

2:28 Speaker 1: sent today. That everything that you sent me, it's all different.

2:31 Speaker 1: It's all you know, like there's a hip hop track

2:33 Speaker 1: which I love, and there's every everything's different. Are these all?

2:36 Speaker 1: Are these all on one album? Are they all available

2:39 Speaker 1: on one album?

2:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an album that you can pre order on

2:42 Speaker 2: band camp. It's gonna be streaming on band camp on.

2:45 Speaker 3: Monday.

2:46 Speaker 2: I'm actually at one o'clock they're doing I'm doing a

2:49 Speaker 2: pre listening party at Pemburg City Limits Excellent stream it.

2:53 Speaker 2: A bunch of people from the bands and a bunch

2:55 Speaker 2: of other people are coming, so it should be fun.

2:57 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going on band camp fourteen the press

3:00 Speaker 2: and vinyls, T shirts, stickers, all kinds of fun stuff,

3:03 Speaker 2: cool car picks for all my guitar nerd friends, and

3:07 Speaker 2: then it'll be on all the other streaming services on

3:09 Speaker 2: the twenty eighth of October. Okay, Oh yeah, it's under

3:11 Speaker 2: my name that I produced hip hop under percussive maintenance.

3:15 Speaker 2: So even though ill, there's a lot of guitar stuff,

3:17 Speaker 2: and there's lots of you know, basically sixteen different other

3:20 Speaker 2: musicians that I regularly play with that are on there. Yeah,

3:24 Speaker 2: getting three hip hop songs, some instrumental stuff, solo guitar stuff,

3:29 Speaker 2: so it's it's really all all over the place.

3:32 Speaker 3: Yeah.

3:33 Speaker 2: DJ Myth the DJ from Manchester from rapa Nite Manchester,

3:36 Speaker 2: he added some scratches to some songs, so really it's

3:39 Speaker 2: all it's all over the place.

3:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. I worked with DJ Myth

3:44 Speaker 1: like years and years ago. We were both involved in

3:47 Speaker 1: a project called well, it was called Project Hybrid okay,

3:50 Speaker 1: and it was this hip hop group where it was

3:52 Speaker 1: like there were these these two people who were at

3:55 Speaker 1: the center of it, who were always there, Danny Dragon,

3:58 Speaker 1: who was a singer and around the Rebel who was

3:59 Speaker 1: a rap and they were always there, but the other

4:02 Speaker 1: musicians would kind of improvise and it was just whoever

4:05 Speaker 1: was available.

4:06 Speaker 3: So if I was available, I would show up and

4:08 Speaker 3: play bass and that's awesome. If Mith was available, he

4:10 Speaker 3: would be there his thing.

4:11 Speaker 4: Yeah I was.

4:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great time. Yeah, he's a great guy.

4:13 Speaker 1: I haven't talked him in so long, but yeah, he's

4:15 Speaker 1: he's a very very talented.

4:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've known him for a long time.

4:18 Speaker 2: We started learning how to make beats on ableton at

4:23 Speaker 2: least probably like twelve years ago from the same dude.

4:26 Speaker 3: And oh no kidding, Yeah, he just.

4:28 Speaker 2: Went down the turntable road and I went down the

4:30 Speaker 2: other road. Yeah, yeah, no, we've known each other for

4:33 Speaker 2: a while.

4:33 Speaker 1: And tell us again about so Pembroke City Limits, what

4:36 Speaker 1: are you doing there exactly?

4:38 Speaker 2: So basically, there's a pre listening party for my album.

4:41 Speaker 2: So I'm going to stream the whole album there at

4:45 Speaker 2: pember City Limits today one and it's also going to

4:47 Speaker 2: be available on band camp. You can listen to its

4:48 Speaker 2: stream on band camp for that.

4:49 Speaker 3: And that's happening. That's happening today. That's happening today.

4:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, busy day, coming here, done doing that, and then

4:55 Speaker 2: I'm going up and debuting one of the songs at

4:59 Speaker 2: base side Bolt Night, the hip hop song that's on

5:02 Speaker 2: there with Ben Shore, who may be calling in at

5:05 Speaker 2: some point here. Uh yeah, Portland rapper lives in Philly now,

5:09 Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, so that'll be cool.

5:13 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it is a busy day.

5:14 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but uh yeah, so it's again the album's

5:18 Speaker 2: all over the place, so I should be all of

5:20 Speaker 2: it again. Like you know, I played with the jazz

5:22 Speaker 2: trio earlier this week, and I'm playing with a hip

5:25 Speaker 2: hop artist this week, which is, you know, kind of

5:26 Speaker 2: how how it works for me, which is why I'm

5:28 Speaker 2: a you know, my album's all over the place.

5:31 Speaker 1: In the same way, have you always throughout your your

5:34 Speaker 1: career up to this point, have you always been really

5:37 Speaker 1: diverse in terms of what kinds of music and different

5:40 Speaker 1: genres that you get involved.

5:42 Speaker 2: In for the most part, I mean I I go

5:45 Speaker 2: down rabbit holes, so like I know way too much

5:47 Speaker 2: about hip hop, way too much about jazz, and then

5:50 Speaker 2: like some of the other stuff just adjacently, like some

5:53 Speaker 2: of this stuff like Mazy you'll suggest in Fox and Flamenco's.

5:55 Speaker 3: I've never heard of this band, but I like it.

5:57 Speaker 2: It's cool. It's just I've never you know. But yeah,

6:00 Speaker 2: I'll play with any anyone, any anything like. I have

6:04 Speaker 2: fun just playing, and especially if it's somewhat you know,

6:07 Speaker 2: improvisatory or just like the writing process. I love like

6:10 Speaker 2: writing music and making music. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

6:14 Speaker 2: the fun part of it, you know, no matter what

6:16 Speaker 2: it is. I play Bad Burger on Thursdays. We do

6:19 Speaker 2: a jam there and we just you know, plays Zeppelin songs,

6:22 Speaker 2: play like. So it's again completely different. I play you know,

6:26 Speaker 2: full Train the night before and then Zeppelin the next day.

6:28 Speaker 2: So it's just how my music has been and you know,

6:32 Speaker 2: my my confused algorithms.

6:34 Speaker 1: All over the world. You play a lot too. I

6:36 Speaker 1: was looking at your schedule on your website.

6:38 Speaker 3: You play a lot. Yeah, I'm trying to play as

6:42 Speaker 3: much as I can.

6:42 Speaker 2: It's you know, I'm in a few different projects, and

6:44 Speaker 2: then I have my solo jazz thing, so I'm always

6:48 Speaker 2: I'm always doing something either at Pembroke or like Nolins

6:51 Speaker 2: or you know, there's a bunch of bunch of places

6:53 Speaker 2: I do my little solo show thing at Milford.

6:55 Speaker 3: I do a few places.

6:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So there are a lot of places that

6:59 Speaker 1: you on kind of a regular basis, almost like a

7:02 Speaker 1: residency where you go back quite a bit essentially.

7:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like Nolin's and Conquered Loans, a few

7:09 Speaker 2: different other speakeasies across New Hampshire. So I'll go do

7:12 Speaker 2: one there and then do one at Codex in Nashua,

7:14 Speaker 2: and then do one at you know, crow Bauer and Claremont.

7:17 Speaker 3: So yeah, and.

7:18 Speaker 2: Obviously then makes me appreciate Pembroke City limits being five

7:22 Speaker 2: minutes from my house a little extra.

7:23 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm curious too about so do you always

7:29 Speaker 1: do you play the eighth string at every show or yeah?

7:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a looper set that I play

7:34 Speaker 2: the eighth string at. So I uh, I'm basically laying

7:38 Speaker 2: down the guitar in the bass line and one passed

7:40 Speaker 2: through with the looper and then I just play the melody.

7:42 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's that's all over the place too,

7:45 Speaker 2: because you know, like my influences, I do like warrang

7:49 Speaker 2: Gy regulate, I'll do Creep from Radiohead and then Coltrane songs.

7:53 Speaker 2: I do Take five from Dave Brubec, so like it's

7:56 Speaker 2: you know, Mama's and the Papa songs like Jane Morrison.

7:59 Speaker 3: So it's so like so eclectic.

8:01 Speaker 2: There's no one who covers the same songs that I cover,

8:04 Speaker 2: I'm sure, but yeah, yeah, and I just yeah, I

8:07 Speaker 2: kind of get a looko on for some of the said,

8:08 Speaker 2: I'll just do like kind of solo jazz guitar songs

8:11 Speaker 2: like do like fly Me to the Moon and like

8:13 Speaker 2: jazz standards and we'll kind of reimagined, reharmonized jazz standards.

8:17 Speaker 3: So what did you I assume you started out on

8:19 Speaker 3: a six string? I did?

8:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually started on bass long

8:23 Speaker 2: before guitar, but yeah, oh okay, I started on bass

8:26 Speaker 2: and then learned guitar after that, and then I only

8:28 Speaker 2: got into h string about four years ago. My teacher

8:33 Speaker 2: was selling one and I always kind of wanted to

8:35 Speaker 2: delve into it, and I already kind of had the

8:37 Speaker 2: bass and guitar kind of background, so it was just

8:40 Speaker 2: kind of yeah, getting used to.

8:42 Speaker 3: The really wide neck and putting the two together. Who

8:44 Speaker 3: is your teacher? We should give them a plug?

8:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Dave Newsome, Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I started going

8:49 Speaker 2: to Summer Youth Music School back in ninth grade, which

8:54 Speaker 2: is the UNH program, And he started teaching me then,

8:57 Speaker 2: and then I went to UNH for a little bit

9:00 Speaker 2: it and then yeah, he's he taught Tommy Gray and

9:03 Speaker 2: I've been I haven't had any lessons really, but we

9:06 Speaker 2: play together and like that's a that's a lesson in itself.

9:09 Speaker 1: What was it? Was it challenging learning to to play

9:13 Speaker 1: an eight string or did it kind of come naturally?

9:15 Speaker 1: Was it just a matter of, uh, kind of combining

9:18 Speaker 1: what you knew and already Yeah.

9:19 Speaker 2: It was a little of both, because I already kind

9:22 Speaker 2: of played six string bass, so I already was comfortable

9:24 Speaker 2: with a low B string.

9:25 Speaker 3: Yeah.

9:26 Speaker 2: Uh, and then you know, adding the low F sharp

9:28 Speaker 2: and just kind of figuring out different like chord shapes,

9:30 Speaker 2: like yeah, like so that I you know, normal A

9:34 Speaker 2: on guitar to get that low A like you can

9:37 Speaker 2: do with still almost a bar chord and do some

9:39 Speaker 2: cool stuff, and so like you just figure out different

9:41 Speaker 2: ways to use it, and you know, some shapes kind

9:44 Speaker 2: of transfer over some sometimes you figure out new shapes

9:47 Speaker 2: that you could never do with a six string. So

9:49 Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's definitely fun and it gives you, It

9:51 Speaker 2: gives you some range, and it even like I use

9:54 Speaker 2: it in Flamingo shows and it throws people for a

9:56 Speaker 2: loop because they'll like hear me doing the bass and

9:58 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I'll do a guitar and

10:00 Speaker 2: then go back to me. But yeah, it's uh, it's

10:04 Speaker 2: it's really it's a fun instrument.

10:06 Speaker 3: I'm glad I delve down that rabbit hole. Yeah. Yeah, no,

10:09 Speaker 3: it's fascinating.

10:10 Speaker 1: Like I said, I like listening to it, but it's

10:12 Speaker 1: also just I'm fascinated just watching you play, like I'm

10:16 Speaker 1: just watching your fingers. You know, we should play us

10:19 Speaker 1: since we were talking about it, we should play that

10:21 Speaker 1: hip hop track.

10:22 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is as I Lay Dying feature in

10:25 Speaker 2: ben Shore again. This is on my album. A nice

10:30 Speaker 2: song just with some different saw me playing guitar. The

10:33 Speaker 2: only song I played mandolin the song. There's a little

10:35 Speaker 2: mandolin loop that started the whole song, which is funny

10:38 Speaker 2: how stuff like one little thing becomes this big, blossoming

10:41 Speaker 2: song that barely has anything.

10:42 Speaker 3: To do with the man. Yeah.

10:44 Speaker 2: No, it's a cool song. It's kind of big and

10:46 Speaker 2: epic sounding, is what I was going for.

10:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really like this a lot. Let's give

10:50 Speaker 1: this a spin. This is called As I lay died.

10:59 Speaker 4: Broke, but I'm not broken, don't breaking. I left the

11:04 Speaker 4: gun smoking. My blood runs open scars.

11:09 Speaker 3: Don't heal right?

11:10 Speaker 4: He can't get it to steil tight, rub tokens together,

11:14 Speaker 4: hoping for luck, but the deal's light falling like a

11:16 Speaker 4: steel pipe. I fall hard through a skylight window covered

11:20 Speaker 4: in glass. Sharks too much dancing with the devil, left

11:23 Speaker 4: my ass chard into the road. Asked my maker to

11:25 Speaker 4: make it end less painful. Instead, an angel came and

11:29 Speaker 4: sang me songs until I fell asleep, helped me get up.

11:31 Speaker 4: Instead of rain clouds, there was a rainbow. So I

11:34 Speaker 4: crawled till I could walk. Now, I let this guitar.

11:38 Speaker 5: Weak as I lay dying, As I lay dying, as

12:18 Speaker 5: I laid dying, As I laid dying, when it all

12:23 Speaker 5: falls down, and the ground starts quaking, and my soul

12:26 Speaker 5: of wickeds, and the sky starts breaking, and the eyes

12:29 Speaker 5: are watched, and the time.

12:30 Speaker 6: I've taken it is not be given living these times

12:33 Speaker 6: we see the bond prize ribbons were driven from riches

12:36 Speaker 6: and sinning. And this isn't why we live in this prison,

12:38 Speaker 6: this intim envision. It's like an incision, like if I

12:40 Speaker 6: get in prescriptions seem to make us painfree, but mainly

12:44 Speaker 6: for mind us that we isn't in fame. We cheats

12:46 Speaker 6: and dragons that have no emotion for us. What so

12:49 Speaker 6: a soldiers cappa chition that chosen formulas the real truth

12:52 Speaker 6: thighs and this here booth.

12:54 Speaker 5: There's no fearing. My eyes absent dispair with the spies

12:56 Speaker 5: walking to parent.

12:57 Speaker 3: The lies are bearing disguise.

12:59 Speaker 6: I taste the tears rolling down a cheeks, Kiss him away,

13:02 Speaker 6: keep love so deep, I said, no more tears.

13:06 Speaker 4: I just let this guitara weep.

13:31 Speaker 6: As I think it's I late di.

13:36 Speaker 5: As I ate did that's I dated as they.

14:05 Speaker 3: I didn't even want to talk over the end. It

14:07 Speaker 3: just sounded so cool as I laid down. That is

14:10 Speaker 3: from uh uh the New Uh? Now is it? Is

14:14 Speaker 3: it under Gary Smith or is.

14:16 Speaker 7: It uh You're you're calling it yeah? So my h

14:19 Speaker 7: I've already released stuff under yeah, So that is uh here.

14:24 Speaker 7: I have a oh wonderful, wonderful that the name of

14:28 Speaker 7: the album is Melody Workshop. My name that I produced

14:31 Speaker 7: under is Percussive Maintenance. So all the songs on the

14:33 Speaker 7: album are going to be under percussive maintenance, you know.

14:35 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, they're gonna have all the different artists, you know,

14:38 Speaker 2: because there's Jam Tomorrow on there, there's Fox and Flamingos,

14:41 Speaker 2: And I tried to get again, because the album is

14:43 Speaker 2: so collaborative, I tried to get collaborative with the art.

14:46 Speaker 2: So my good friend Christy Marcella did that nice piece

14:49 Speaker 2: of art that's featured throughout the album.

14:52 Speaker 1: And so for those watching online, I'll hold up yeah, yeah,

14:55 Speaker 1: I'll hold up the shirt here. I can't really zoom in,

14:59 Speaker 1: but that so that so she did that.

15:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she did that piece of art. That's awesome. Yeah,

15:04 Speaker 3: it's so so gorgeous.

15:06 Speaker 2: And then Nick from Cosmic Blossom he's on a song

15:10 Speaker 2: too that I'm sure you heard. He did a piece

15:11 Speaker 2: of art. A friend from California did a piece of art.

15:15 Speaker 2: So it's kind of just the album is going to

15:16 Speaker 2: have a bunch of different pieces of art, all kind

15:18 Speaker 2: of blended together on the back for you know, just

15:21 Speaker 2: for something kind of again collaborative art wise and music wise.

15:24 Speaker 1: So no, that's extremely cool, and yeah, thank you, this

15:27 Speaker 1: is a that's amazing, very nice, very nice. So what's

15:35 Speaker 1: kind of the future trajectory in terms of are you?

15:39 Speaker 1: Are you continuing to work with a lot of these

15:41 Speaker 1: artists on I mean, obviously this this album is just

15:45 Speaker 1: now coming out or about to come out, But but

15:47 Speaker 1: are you because you strike me as someone you probably

15:49 Speaker 1: always have ideas and oh.

15:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I always have music in the bank,

15:54 Speaker 2: because I mean I could probably do another one of

15:56 Speaker 2: these pretty quick if I you know, just got into

15:59 Speaker 2: the studio and sou but uh yeah, I mean that's

16:01 Speaker 2: really more. I mean I have some ideas kind of

16:04 Speaker 2: to get things slightly more focused. You know, that's kind

16:07 Speaker 2: of this is kind of just the like shoot it

16:08 Speaker 2: out there. This is everything I do. And then you know,

16:12 Speaker 2: I want to do a little more hip hop production.

16:14 Speaker 2: Me and Ben have talked about doing a few more

16:16 Speaker 2: songs together and the song that you may have heard

16:19 Speaker 2: with Mazy Digital Sunrise like that, when we want to

16:21 Speaker 2: do a few more little like snippets like that, because

16:23 Speaker 2: those you know, come together really quick. You know, I

16:25 Speaker 2: have having the able to she just you know, records

16:28 Speaker 2: it through the mic in my house and it's super

16:31 Speaker 2: simple in that sense. Okay, and then I just go

16:34 Speaker 2: to our mixed mastering Wizard with the stems and we

16:38 Speaker 2: just mix it in a couple hours, so it's no kidding.

16:40 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why I like even some of the

16:42 Speaker 2: stuff that most of the stuff is you know, ultimately

16:44 Speaker 2: produced and made my bedroom and you know, bedroom studio.

16:48 Speaker 2: But you know, I take the stems and let Pete,

16:51 Speaker 2: Pete do his thing because he's he's such a good

16:53 Speaker 2: dude and he knows he knows this stuff, and there's

16:56 Speaker 2: so much stuff that like I have an idea, and

16:58 Speaker 2: then just even when he gets the stems, he's like,

17:00 Speaker 2: why don't we do this? Why don't we do this?

17:01 Speaker 2: And it just makes such a big difference. Like yeah,

17:02 Speaker 2: that's that's why I'm glad I do I.

17:04 Speaker 3: Do this with you. Now where is he because we

17:05 Speaker 3: should give him a plug?

17:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Pete Peloquin at Boards House Productions in Brookline.

17:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, same one. That's where you did Jam Tomorrow, right, Yeah,

17:12 Speaker 3: Jam Tomorrow.

17:13 Speaker 2: Fox and Flamingos have recorded there. There's yeah, a bunch

17:17 Speaker 2: of bunch of bands around the area have have recorded there.

17:20 Speaker 2: I mean Rooster Creation are the big one that they do.

17:22 Speaker 2: But he's the sound guy for Bad Fish, so he's

17:24 Speaker 2: on the road doing that stuff a bunch too, So

17:27 Speaker 2: oh okay, he's actually we're playing a pumpkin fest tomorrow

17:30 Speaker 2: with Fox and Flamingoes and we get to he gets

17:32 Speaker 2: to do our sounds, so we're we're lucky. I think

17:35 Speaker 2: it's the best will ever sound with him doing our sounds.

17:37 Speaker 3: Kid. Yeah, yeah, no, it makes sense, Yeah, it makes sense.

17:40 Speaker 3: But yeah, I know he's he's an awesome dude.

17:41 Speaker 2: He's super easy to work with and like he lets

17:44 Speaker 2: meaner it out and learn stuff from him, Like I've

17:47 Speaker 2: become a better you know, producer by just watching what

17:50 Speaker 2: he does, like over his shoulder and asking him nerdy questions.

17:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool though, that you're able to to do

17:57 Speaker 3: the recording at home.

17:58 Speaker 5: You know.

17:58 Speaker 3: It's always say we live in a time.

18:01 Speaker 1: We're blessed to live in a time where you have

18:02 Speaker 1: so many different options in terms of how you record,

18:04 Speaker 1: and you know, different studios you can go to or

18:07 Speaker 1: you can do it at home. And oh, really, I'm

18:09 Speaker 1: out with something that sounds amazing. Maybe we should play

18:13 Speaker 1: that track Digital Sunrise.

18:15 Speaker 3: That's another one. So now this track, to just to

18:19 Speaker 3: be clear, this is not Fox and the Flamingos. This

18:21 Speaker 3: is not Fox and Flamingos.

18:22 Speaker 2: No, this is again a song and guitar riff that

18:25 Speaker 2: ultimately again the guitar riffs started all became a song,

18:29 Speaker 2: and then I wanted to do something with it, and

18:31 Speaker 2: Mazy heard it and loved it, like, oh, I can

18:32 Speaker 2: write some something cool over this, so yeah, yeah, and

18:35 Speaker 2: then just did some rearranging. But yeah, I know this

18:37 Speaker 2: is just a percussive maintenance featuring. Yeah amazing.

18:41 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to start that already.

18:43 Speaker 1: Try trying to actually, Oh, here we go, trying to

18:46 Speaker 1: actually download it, and this computer's being a little slow.

18:48 Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go.

18:49 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, this is really cool too. Let's give this

18:52 Speaker 1: a spin. This is called digital sunrise.

19:17 Speaker 8: Sometimes I wanna hi, that's a that's a d.

19:27 Speaker 9: Al.

19:28 Speaker 8: The time passed me by, hop times.

19:31 Speaker 9: A while, ride.

19:34 Speaker 8: The universe? So mad, have been had on, happen, have a.

19:56 Speaker 10: Feeling good between ussis has singing in the street, don't

20:02 Speaker 10: where the sun musty?

20:05 Speaker 5: But I'm not just wa.

20:10 Speaker 9: God man, I'm like God.

20:18 Speaker 10: Being good between machines, happen stinging in.

20:21 Speaker 8: This I don't where the sun musty? I'm not just

20:26 Speaker 8: why no way.

20:31 Speaker 3: God, man, I'm like, god.

20:39 Speaker 8: I don't know what to tell you. You've gone to

20:48 Speaker 8: some aching.

20:57 Speaker 9: Something bad.

21:24 Speaker 3: It's got a cool vibe if you're just joining us.

21:27 Speaker 1: Gary Smith is here with us, alive in studio and

21:30 Speaker 1: we're playing some tracks from Percussive Maintenance.

21:33 Speaker 3: Do I get the title right? Yeah?

21:34 Speaker 2: Percussive that's my producer name. The album is called Melody Workshop.

21:39 Speaker 3: Melody Workshop, right, right, gotcha, which is.

21:41 Speaker 2: My My parents had a music store that they opened.

21:44 Speaker 2: That was my first job back in ninth grade. I

21:46 Speaker 2: was giving guitar lessons, so yeah, that was called the

21:49 Speaker 2: Melody Workshops. I'm like, oh, it's a perfect kind of

21:51 Speaker 2: tie everything together.

21:52 Speaker 3: So yeah, you were already giving guitar lessons.

21:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mainly bass lessons, but beginner guitar lessons, and

21:59 Speaker 2: then yeah, by the end and by like senior year,

22:01 Speaker 2: that was you know, just all I was doing was

22:03 Speaker 2: giving good guitar lessons and bass lessons. So I didn't

22:05 Speaker 2: really have a normal high school crappy job, you know,

22:09 Speaker 2: given lessons for my parents.

22:11 Speaker 3: Good for you, Good for you. Does that store still

22:13 Speaker 3: exist or no?

22:14 Speaker 2: No, they've both passed since and they've retired a while ago.

22:19 Speaker 2: But I think the last time it existed, probably as

22:23 Speaker 2: it was, was like two thousand and two, two thousand

22:25 Speaker 2: and three. But I actually I found an old picture

22:27 Speaker 2: of the sign and that's used on the album cover,

22:30 Speaker 2: so yeah, oh that's very cool.

22:32 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a you know, my stepdad got

22:34 Speaker 3: me into music. Really.

22:36 Speaker 2: My mom and him met doing like Actors Singers back

22:39 Speaker 2: in Nashville. He was the director of Actors Singers.

22:41 Speaker 3: Oh wow, so uh so.

22:44 Speaker 2: They met and then that kind of infused me with music,

22:46 Speaker 2: made me learn trombone at a young age.

22:48 Speaker 3: And I love bass.

22:49 Speaker 2: So because I went from trombone, I'm like, I already

22:51 Speaker 2: know bass left so I could read it right away.

22:53 Speaker 3: So what was trombone your first instrument? Trombone was my

22:55 Speaker 3: first instrument.

22:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't touched one in you know, twenty somethings,

23:00 Speaker 2: so it probably sound horrible if I tried to touch it.

23:03 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean it was definitely the catalyst

23:06 Speaker 3: for everything.

23:06 Speaker 2: And then you know, that's what led me to bass

23:09 Speaker 2: because I'm like, oh, it's in the same cleft, so

23:10 Speaker 2: I can read it right away. And that was very

23:12 Speaker 2: basically and then you know, my thought was all my

23:14 Speaker 2: friends are learning how to play guitar, why don't I

23:16 Speaker 2: learn how to play bass?

23:17 Speaker 3: And yeah it has worked out well.

23:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely that track too. So you were saying

23:24 Speaker 1: off here Digital Sunrise, you call it it's mid fi.

23:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that was the joke.

23:29 Speaker 2: It's it's not like a low fi like slow like

23:32 Speaker 2: gritty track, but like it it's like a it's a

23:35 Speaker 2: hip hop ified version of Fox and Flamingos almost, like yeah,

23:39 Speaker 2: so it's kind of the again, the melding of the

23:41 Speaker 2: two sides.

23:42 Speaker 1: Right right when you play like when you play out solo,

23:48 Speaker 1: do any of the songs from the bands that you're

23:50 Speaker 1: in make it into the set?

23:52 Speaker 2: Or oh definitely yeah, yeah, I mean some of the

23:55 Speaker 2: I actually just added one we've done with Fox and Flingers.

23:57 Speaker 2: We've done like this cool funky version of Benny and

23:59 Speaker 2: the Jets of Her Yeah, and I'm like, oh, that

24:01 Speaker 2: has like it has a looping structure. I'm like, oh,

24:04 Speaker 2: I can loop this one way through, So like that's

24:06 Speaker 2: kind of when I and then like, isn't she lovely?

24:08 Speaker 2: I do that just the two of us. So yeah,

24:10 Speaker 2: some of the songs I do with one or other bands.

24:13 Speaker 2: Then some of my originals like I do an EMU

24:15 Speaker 2: when I do that live, and I like layer the

24:17 Speaker 2: harmonies through the looper and like, yeah, it's a uh yeah.

24:23 Speaker 2: I definitely find songs from from that for sure. I

24:26 Speaker 2: haven't quite done an original and I haven't thought about it.

24:30 Speaker 2: I don't think one would quite work like looping process

24:33 Speaker 2: wise because they're also weird. But I definitely find some

24:36 Speaker 2: good covers that that work well. And that's kind of

24:38 Speaker 2: again the fun of my original or my live side

24:41 Speaker 2: is like people like listening and saying, oh, I know

24:43 Speaker 2: that song. Oh that's a radiod, Oh that's you know

24:46 Speaker 2: yeah John, So like there it is.

24:49 Speaker 3: It is kind of fun in that sense.

24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very cool. Well we should uh let's see.

24:54 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get these other ones in.

24:58 Speaker 1: Should we play melt Away?

25:00 Speaker 3: Yeah?

25:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new Fox and Flamingos song that's actually

25:03 Speaker 2: our most recently recorded one. Oh and this was a cool,

25:07 Speaker 2: cool story about this one. Me and Mayzi just were like,

25:10 Speaker 2: we want to write a song. We hadn't written a

25:12 Speaker 2: song in a while, and then I had like, as

25:16 Speaker 2: silly as it sounds, I had a dream with this

25:18 Speaker 2: riff in it that I had already played like it,

25:20 Speaker 2: just like it's weird that I remember that.

25:23 Speaker 3: And then she said I'm like, okay, how about that.

25:24 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I love it.

25:25 Speaker 2: So the beginning riff was where it all started. But

25:27 Speaker 2: I had the riff, the chord progression, and then I

25:29 Speaker 2: just brought it to her. She instantly came up with

25:31 Speaker 2: words and then brought it to the Flamingos and we

25:34 Speaker 2: fleshed it all out to what it is, and it's

25:36 Speaker 2: it's an awesome.

25:36 Speaker 3: Song or only song that's not in four to four

25:38 Speaker 3: in the album.

25:38 Speaker 1: So yeah, little waltz, Oh cool, cool. Yeah, I love

25:42 Speaker 1: Fox and the Flamingos as you know, I love I

25:45 Speaker 1: still love that.

25:46 Speaker 3: I still play it once in a while. That don't

25:48 Speaker 3: be a stranger. Yeah, Oh such a great that's such

25:50 Speaker 3: a great song. Yeah, I love it. But this is

25:52 Speaker 3: great too.

25:53 Speaker 2: So this is brand new, right, Yeah, this is brand new.

25:56 Speaker 2: It hasn't been played anywhere besides us doing it live.

25:58 Speaker 5: You know.

25:59 Speaker 2: I think we debuted at Wormtown. So yeah, this is

26:03 Speaker 2: a new Little Fox and Flamingo's debut.

26:05 Speaker 3: Fantastic And this is called melt Away. Check this out. Hey, Safety.

26:45 Speaker 9: Savings, Your Love and one Invisible a.

27:00 Speaker 3: Member and that trust you.

27:18 Speaker 8: Not at all trust myself?

27:26 Speaker 10: Am that it doesn't trust myself?

27:34 Speaker 8: Did you feel you're so mad?

27:38 Speaker 3: So love me?

28:16 Speaker 1: I think.

28:19 Speaker 8: Was floating down?

28:23 Speaker 3: Can I do you do?

28:25 Speaker 5: You do?

28:27 Speaker 3: Not you deliver? Say just not the way.

28:37 Speaker 5: To that? Just you.

28:53 Speaker 10: Don't it's just myself. Oh say that's my sa.

29:09 Speaker 3: You feel your so right?

29:13 Speaker 8: Slow long.

29:24 Speaker 1: I lo.

29:52 Speaker 9: God, trust.

29:55 Speaker 3: But at all just my.

29:57 Speaker 9: Safe hold Stevens not smustard, you feel so loud, so rod.

30:19 Speaker 3: So No, that is so good, gorgeous melt away. I

31:10 Speaker 3: love Fox on the f as you all know. Yeah,

31:14 Speaker 3: that is fantastic. And yeah, the flute sounds great and

31:17 Speaker 3: that the way it kind.

31:17 Speaker 2: Of just just weaves in and out and yeah, like

31:21 Speaker 2: it's cool, like the flute over the heavy guitar.

31:23 Speaker 3: It's such a cool like mix of sounds.

31:25 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, fantastic, fantastic if you're just joining us.

31:29 Speaker 1: Gary Smith is here. He's in Fox and the Flamingos

31:33 Speaker 1: and Jam Tomorrow and uh, what like ten other bands

31:36 Speaker 1: or something.

31:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cosmic Blossomsome effective, Yeah, and then kind of Cinnamon

31:41 Speaker 2: Jazz Trio, the Floutest in that we play a little bit.

31:44 Speaker 2: We're played at Pembroke actually with I played bass in

31:47 Speaker 2: that with a piano player Joe Verga, and play flute yea,

31:51 Speaker 2: and yeah, we just do some jazz standards.

31:53 Speaker 3: We have fun. We uh it's always great time.

31:55 Speaker 2: I mean just just like all my other things, Like

31:57 Speaker 2: we invite people to play up so like we had

31:59 Speaker 2: a from player last time, kind of sax player before.

32:03 Speaker 3: So it's fun.

32:04 Speaker 1: Is that Is that ever challenging when you when you uh,

32:07 Speaker 1: I mean having having those additional horns, I mean, does

32:09 Speaker 1: it always just kind of work or is it ever?

32:13 Speaker 2: I mean, jazz even though it's kind of crazy, A

32:15 Speaker 2: lot of it's structured, so like you're you're kind of

32:19 Speaker 2: just doing the same form over and over. So as

32:21 Speaker 2: long as you know the basics for everything are kind

32:24 Speaker 2: of happening, it's pretty simple, d Ad. And uh even

32:28 Speaker 2: like uh my jazz thing I do at Pembroke, like

32:31 Speaker 2: last week, I do it every other Sunday pretty much.

32:34 Speaker 2: I had some younger kids, uh, freshman at Berkeley come

32:37 Speaker 2: and I think he's a high school student from around here.

32:39 Speaker 2: Jack and Nick and they came and we just had

32:42 Speaker 2: in the whole time and played and went over some

32:44 Speaker 2: stuff and like it was like it was a good

32:46 Speaker 2: learning experience for them to get to kind of woodshed

32:49 Speaker 2: those types of songs. So yeah, I mean it's never

32:52 Speaker 2: sometimes it's smoother than others by all means. It kind

32:54 Speaker 2: of depends on what the history is. But yeah, I

32:58 Speaker 2: mean I do a few of them around here. I

33:00 Speaker 2: I often go to the Forum Jazz Jam up the

33:03 Speaker 2: Old Area twenty three, and yeah, the same thing is

33:07 Speaker 2: just some old school guys, you know, Brian Booth, mikey

33:10 Speaker 2: g Mike Galant, and they all just kind of go

33:13 Speaker 2: through some standards and we all make it sound really

33:16 Speaker 2: really good because you know, there's there's the structure to it.

33:18 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean it always depends, but I

33:22 Speaker 2: mean that's kind of the fun, especially if you have

33:24 Speaker 2: a solid bassist or in rhythm section, you know, good

33:27 Speaker 2: bassis and drummer like you can you can over you

33:31 Speaker 2: can overcome a lot just by having the solid bass

33:34 Speaker 2: and then you know, trust that they're gonna kind of

33:37 Speaker 2: lead you. Yeah long, But yeah, it's definitely a different

33:40 Speaker 2: type of mindset versus you know, rehearsing, you know, like

33:44 Speaker 2: learning a cover song for jam tomorrow. That's a very

33:46 Speaker 2: different mindset versus you know, kind of the improvisatory side. Yeah,

33:50 Speaker 2: but even like Cosmic Blossom, like sometimes in sets when

33:53 Speaker 2: we're doing something, we'll just say, hey, let's jam and

33:55 Speaker 2: see my ern and see where it goes. And we've

33:57 Speaker 2: come up with songs. Like the most recent song we're

33:59 Speaker 2: working on came out in a jam. We were doing

34:01 Speaker 2: a candy a road brewing. We just like kind of

34:04 Speaker 2: saw where it went and then they made it. We

34:07 Speaker 2: basically made it a song over the course of the night.

34:09 Speaker 2: So it's fun how stuff can work like that collaboratively.

34:13 Speaker 1: Is Cosmic Blossom something where where the songs like do

34:17 Speaker 1: they change a lot live like, because it seems like

34:19 Speaker 1: with the project like that, you've got like the songs

34:22 Speaker 1: have room to breathe if you want to just kind

34:24 Speaker 1: of make them longer spontaneously exactly.

34:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they definitely do. And then I mean

34:29 Speaker 2: Cosmic Blossom collective is it's a group of bunch of people.

34:32 Speaker 2: There's you know, multiple drummers, multiple bassis, multiple you know, guitarists.

34:35 Speaker 2: There's like kind of Nick and Brad are the core, okay,

34:39 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean there's three vocalists, there's a saxophonists

34:44 Speaker 2: sometimes comes in so it's really, uh, it's really all

34:46 Speaker 2: over the place. But that's kind of the beauty of

34:48 Speaker 2: it is that allows you for some flexibility, get a

34:51 Speaker 2: bunch of different types of input. And we practiced last

34:54 Speaker 2: week in Nash. So we had three female vocalists, Sarah, Megan, Amanda,

34:58 Speaker 2: like Meg from Doggie Dog. She's a great vocalist. Uh,

35:02 Speaker 2: sarahs from dog a Dog too, and Amanda's from cos

35:06 Speaker 2: Cosaic Blossom and uh.

35:09 Speaker 3: Her and her boyfriend Ever Group too.

35:11 Speaker 2: I'll get in trouble for not remembering, but yeah, so

35:15 Speaker 2: like it's just these powerful female vocalists and they can

35:18 Speaker 2: like instantly harmonize on the spots while we're riffing on

35:21 Speaker 2: something that we made up there coming up with these

35:23 Speaker 2: awesome intertwining harmonies, and it's like it's just me and

35:27 Speaker 2: Nick looked over at each other once.

35:28 Speaker 3: Last week just like Jesus, Wow, absolutely mind blowing.

35:32 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's uh we But then like

35:35 Speaker 2: the one we did a Candy Road, that's just me

35:37 Speaker 2: one of the drummers and Nick and Brad just we

35:39 Speaker 2: do a bunch of cosmic songs, the ones that don't

35:42 Speaker 2: require those powerful female vocals.

35:44 Speaker 3: But then you know, we'll do some covers.

35:46 Speaker 2: We'll you know, just make stuff up on the spot,

35:48 Speaker 2: and sometimes the spontaneous stuff gets like the best reaction

35:51 Speaker 2: from the crowd because you know, it's just us doing

35:54 Speaker 2: our best thing.

35:54 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic. That's fantastic.

35:58 Speaker 1: Uh So before we run out of time and we'll

36:01 Speaker 1: we'll play we do have one more that you sent

36:02 Speaker 1: me Kaleidoscope I think.

36:04 Speaker 3: It was, yeah, clidophone. Yeah, that's so.

36:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one with Nick Burns actually of Cosmic Blossoms.

36:09 Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's the lead singer in the you know,

36:12 Speaker 2: kind of core of that.

36:14 Speaker 3: He sang on the song. We actually wrote the song together.

36:16 Speaker 2: I had the guitar part and then he's like, yeah,

36:20 Speaker 2: I said, let's let's make something cool together with this,

36:22 Speaker 2: and then he came up with the melody.

36:23 Speaker 3: He plays guitar on it.

36:24 Speaker 2: The same trumpet player who was on EMU plays the

36:27 Speaker 2: trumpet parts, Brian Murphy. Again, he used to be in

36:30 Speaker 2: a band called The Shills, which was pretty famous at

36:33 Speaker 2: one point. But yeah, he's a he's an awesome trump player,

36:37 Speaker 2: awesome vocalist, awesome guitarist.

36:39 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, so we'll we'll play that in a moment,

36:42 Speaker 1: but before we go, I want to make sure so

36:46 Speaker 1: for our people listening live on Saturday, because you've got

36:48 Speaker 1: a busy Saturday. Let's make sure everyone wants to people

36:51 Speaker 1: want to follow you around today.

36:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at twelve thirty I have a one o'clock

36:56 Speaker 2: the Streaming Stars. But at twelve thirty I'll be at

36:58 Speaker 2: Pembrooke City Limits showing the whole album. We showed you

37:02 Speaker 2: know a few songs from it, but there's twelve total songs.

37:05 Speaker 2: And then I'll be there till about two thirty most likely.

37:08 Speaker 2: And then I'll be going up to Bayside Bowl in Portland,

37:15 Speaker 2: Maine with Onyx, the old school hip hop group. They're

37:19 Speaker 2: playing and Ben Shore is opening for them. We're gonna

37:21 Speaker 2: debut the song we just played as I lay dying

37:24 Speaker 2: with me playing guitar excellent.

37:26 Speaker 3: Right before they go on.

37:28 Speaker 2: And then tomorrow Fox and Flamingos is playing eleven thirty

37:32 Speaker 2: in the middle of the Milford Oval for Pumpkin Fest.

37:35 Speaker 3: Too excellent.

37:37 Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah, I mean keeping eye on my website,

37:39 Speaker 2: my website g Smith music dot com. I still have

37:44 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of gigs coming up, you know,

37:47 Speaker 2: next week I'll be playing.

37:48 Speaker 3: A Bad Burger.

37:49 Speaker 2: We do a cool little jam there with the owner

37:51 Speaker 2: Ian and then I'll be up and I'm actually racing

37:54 Speaker 2: next weekend, so I'll be up in Claremont.

37:57 Speaker 3: So I'm doing a gig while I'm racing on the weekend.

37:59 Speaker 3: So what do you mean you're you're racing? You I

38:02 Speaker 3: race hill climb like hill climb cars.

38:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the bottom of a mountain access road up

38:07 Speaker 2: to the top like they do Mount Washington.

38:09 Speaker 3: Oh wow. Yeah, there's a bunch of them throughout Vermont

38:12 Speaker 3: that that I do.

38:13 Speaker 2: And I have an old two thousand and four Neon

38:16 Speaker 2: s R T four that's with a roll cage.

38:18 Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, that's uh. I've been doing that for

38:21 Speaker 3: a few years.

38:22 Speaker 2: I think you saw me probably one point when I

38:23 Speaker 2: was all broken when I was in when I was hobbling.

38:26 Speaker 3: That was because I crashed one of my race cars. Yeah.

38:29 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I love hill climbing. It's the best kidding. Yeah,

38:33 Speaker 3: this is scary. It sounds scary.

38:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like, it took me a while to

38:37 Speaker 2: get into it. But I'm like, if you're racing on

38:39 Speaker 2: a road course, which I did before, I'm like if

38:41 Speaker 2: you hit a wall, it's not going to be fun.

38:42 Speaker 2: If you hit a tree, it's not gonna be fun.

38:43 Speaker 2: And then I mean I did hit a tree really

38:45 Speaker 2: bad and it definitely was less than less than fun.

38:48 Speaker 2: But I got back to it with any year because

38:50 Speaker 2: it's so fun. The community is so great and it's

38:53 Speaker 2: what every everyone in New England wants to do. Go

38:55 Speaker 2: as fast as you can on a back road, you know,

38:57 Speaker 2: with no no speed limits. It's just you know, it's

39:00 Speaker 2: with stee windy thirty turn road up the top of

39:02 Speaker 2: the road.

39:03 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of fun. Wow, Ok, that's cool.

39:07 Speaker 3: That's cool.

39:08 Speaker 1: All right, well we will we will close out with oh,

39:13 Speaker 1: actually the other thing too, not only what you're doing today,

39:16 Speaker 1: but let's make sure two people know the schedule for

39:18 Speaker 1: the album release.

39:19 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, album release. Yeah, so fourteenth. You'll be able

39:22 Speaker 2: to download it, stream it on band camp. You can

39:25 Speaker 2: pre order the vinyls, you can order shirts like.

39:30 Speaker 3: You got we had those.

39:31 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna have guitar picks coming in again for

39:34 Speaker 2: my nerdy friends. And then the twenty eighth the album

39:36 Speaker 2: will be out on all the other streaming services. Obviously,

39:40 Speaker 2: band Camp is a little bit nicer to musicians, So

39:42 Speaker 2: anyone who would like to support us through that is

39:45 Speaker 2: definitely appreciated. But it'll be on all the you know,

39:48 Speaker 2: Spotify's and apples of the world on the twenty eighth.

39:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, the vinyls should.

39:54 Speaker 2: Be here by the end of the year, pending things

39:57 Speaker 2: with Vinyl, but it's gonna be some cool one hundred

40:00 Speaker 2: and eighty gram clear vinyl for the first first hundred pressings.

40:04 Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, I'm a vinyl nerd. I have been. I

40:06 Speaker 3: worked at Tweeter back in the day. Yeah yeah, so

40:09 Speaker 3: I'm I gotta gotta do it right, I think if

40:13 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.

40:14 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two was the first year of the vinyl

40:16 Speaker 1: actually old c Yeah, yep, long time coming.

40:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, there you go. Gary Smith. Always

40:22 Speaker 3: wonderful to have you here, my friend. Thank you for

40:24 Speaker 3: having me.

40:24 Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely, and congratulations on the album and

40:28 Speaker 1: everything that you're doing.