Matt Connarton Unleashed: Gracie Gato

0:00 Speaker 1: Get command, God, don't get supremely magzoming.

0:09 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome.

0:11 Speaker 3: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and this is the podcast

0:14 Speaker 3: edition of the show.

0:15 Speaker 2: We do one of these once in a while.

0:17 Speaker 3: And the nice thing about the podcast version of the

0:19 Speaker 3: show is because it is not on FM radio, we

0:22 Speaker 3: can actually say whatever we want to, which we kind

0:25 Speaker 3: of do on the radio show anyway.

0:27 Speaker 2: But this is exciting because so.

0:30 Speaker 3: Gracie Gatto is here with us, and Gracie was recently

0:33 Speaker 3: with us on the radio show. But we're going to

0:35 Speaker 3: have a follow up conversation because there are a lot

0:38 Speaker 3: of very exciting things happening, and Gracey, welcome back.

0:43 Speaker 4: Welcome, thank you, thank you for having me. I'm trying

0:47 Speaker 4: to find you on my, oh my, I'm having some

0:50 Speaker 4: technical difficulties here, so forgive me. There we go.

0:55 Speaker 5: Uh oh, I lost you for a second and now

0:58 Speaker 5: you're back.

0:59 Speaker 4: Okay, awesome, Thank you.

1:01 Speaker 2: For having me back. I'm never far.

1:05 Speaker 3: Of course, of course, forgive me, forgive me if I

1:09 Speaker 3: I don't know if you, I don't know if you

1:10 Speaker 3: heard the radio show on Saturday, but my voice was

1:12 Speaker 3: cracking and everything, and I'm still not one hundred percent

1:15 Speaker 3: but doing the best I can. But so, of course

1:18 Speaker 3: when you were on the show with Jenny and I,

1:21 Speaker 3: we were talking all about Adam's World.

1:25 Speaker 2: Yes, And for those who.

1:27 Speaker 3: Are listening for the first time, for anyone who missed

1:29 Speaker 3: that conversation, please tell us what uly is Adam's World?

1:33 Speaker 3: Tell us anything you want to share about it.

1:36 Speaker 2: Oh.

1:37 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a it's about about a twenty minute show

1:44 Speaker 4: of autistic superheroes. So it is the main character, Adam,

1:49 Speaker 4: who was modeled after my son, and he's a nine

1:54 Speaker 4: year old boy with special abilities to touch things and

1:59 Speaker 4: upload it for me directly to his brain. And we

2:02 Speaker 4: have his friend Sam, who is a whiz with numbers, mathematics.

2:07 Speaker 4: And we have the only female character, Zoe, who can

2:12 Speaker 4: run so fast that she could travel through time. So

2:16 Speaker 4: it sets to stage four, multiple adventures, historical figures they're

2:22 Speaker 4: going to meet throughout the series. It's going to be fun.

2:26 Speaker 3: And why did you decide to do this, Why is

2:29 Speaker 3: it so important to you to develop this, this animated series,

2:33 Speaker 3: and what's the what's kind of the driving force behind

2:37 Speaker 3: this for you?

2:39 Speaker 4: Actually it was my son. He's he is Adam, nine

2:43 Speaker 4: years old and he is autistic, nonverbal, which means he

2:49 Speaker 4: can't communicate through voice, which is really strange, you know,

2:54 Speaker 4: considering you know who his mother is, you know, but

2:59 Speaker 4: he can't talk. He can't talk. He never could. We

3:02 Speaker 4: didn't get alarm till me he's about three years old.

3:04 Speaker 4: And then you know, we we had some suspicions and

3:08 Speaker 4: my husband at the time took him, Adam's father took

3:11 Speaker 4: him to see someone and he was diagnosed as autistic ADHD.

3:18 Speaker 4: So it's been a real journey to get from where

3:22 Speaker 4: he was entering school kindergarten through now third grade. So

3:27 Speaker 4: it's been a real interesting and then having to be

3:31 Speaker 4: a caretaker for my mother who passed away recently, on

3:35 Speaker 4: top of an autistic child, it was you know, it's

3:38 Speaker 4: been heavy. It's been heavy and humbling, and I just

3:44 Speaker 4: feel like this Adam's world and this is like like

3:50 Speaker 4: no bs. But the night my mother passed away, I

3:56 Speaker 4: moved the bed. I moved to bed. I got a

3:59 Speaker 4: bed from retas that are in one of those cheap beds,

4:01 Speaker 4: and I nudged it next to hers. And then I

4:05 Speaker 4: was writing a treatment of Adam's world, what it will

4:10 Speaker 4: be like, just on a textbook paper. And she passed

4:14 Speaker 4: away two hours later, so it's very personal. Yeah, so

4:22 Speaker 4: it's like she left this world and another life was

4:26 Speaker 4: born in a way, which is you know, the show

4:29 Speaker 4: to help autistic children, and you know, she loved Adam,

4:32 Speaker 4: and Adam they had their own special language because he

4:35 Speaker 4: was non verbal. So excuse me. So he has been

4:40 Speaker 4: thriving at a at a local small town school here

4:45 Speaker 4: in Hudson, New Hampshire, and the school is shout out

4:49 Speaker 4: in Nottingham West. I mean they're awesome. They've really changed

4:53 Speaker 4: Adam's life and taken taken from what I've learned from

4:58 Speaker 4: what they do, and they and learn you know what

5:01 Speaker 4: I do, which is you know, broadcasting using your voice

5:03 Speaker 4: and you know mannerisms. We've been communicating and doing our

5:08 Speaker 4: own kind of acting out. So yeah, the show actually

5:12 Speaker 4: wasn't a show. I just started doing these little video

5:15 Speaker 4: vignettes for my kid, who was you know, hyperactive and

5:18 Speaker 4: just like go way busy, busy, I'm busy, and he

5:21 Speaker 4: started to like really pay attention to him, and he

5:24 Speaker 4: started to notice how I was putting things together frame

5:27 Speaker 4: by frame and then have them move, and that like

5:31 Speaker 4: totally tripped him out. So he's I got him a

5:33 Speaker 4: part of the process as well, So it's kind of cool,

5:37 Speaker 4: but it really comes from a you know, from a

5:39 Speaker 4: really heavy place, you know.

5:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how long how long had this been kind

5:46 Speaker 3: of been in your mind to do something like this?

5:54 Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned, you know that when your mom passed,

5:58 Speaker 3: kind of saying you know, you're you're definitely gonna this.

6:00 Speaker 3: But I mean, had you been had it been a

6:01 Speaker 3: long time that you'd kind of been been doing this

6:04 Speaker 3: with Adham and then and then you know, you show, yeah,

6:08 Speaker 3: I've been doing relates to what you're doing. I mean,

6:11 Speaker 3: had that been.

6:14 Speaker 4: That's been going on for a while. Yeah. You know,

6:17 Speaker 4: we have our special little games that we play songs

6:21 Speaker 4: and videos and you know, he's eight, so eight or

6:23 Speaker 4: nine years old, No, he's nine now, he's just her nine.

6:26 Speaker 4: So he loves fart videos and stuff. So any animals

6:30 Speaker 4: part he would just crack up and laugh, So you

6:32 Speaker 4: know what, Yeah, yeah, now I'm in that business to

6:36 Speaker 4: make people laugh. You know, the stuff I was doing

6:39 Speaker 4: before with documentaries and stuff. I mean, honestly, with politics,

6:43 Speaker 4: it's like all the informations out there and you already

6:46 Speaker 4: made up your mind and there's nothing I could do

6:48 Speaker 4: as an artist to take you a picture. It's going

6:51 Speaker 4: to change your mind, you right, So yeah, we all

6:57 Speaker 4: know politicians are corrupt and people don't care, so let's

7:00 Speaker 4: do something fun. It's just something I think we need laughs,

7:04 Speaker 4: We need to be we need to smile more, we

7:06 Speaker 4: need to be more like these kids, who you know,

7:09 Speaker 4: at least kids you can reason with.

7:12 Speaker 3: Right, Well, no, I mean, I mean you say that,

7:16 Speaker 3: and it's funny, but there's also there is an underlying

7:19 Speaker 3: truth to that, right, because kids haven't you know, they

7:25 Speaker 3: don't have all these sort of calcified ideas in their

7:27 Speaker 3: brains yet, right, you know, right, most adults, you know,

7:31 Speaker 3: by the time, and different studies will tell you different things.

7:34 Speaker 3: But I've read that the average American by the time

7:36 Speaker 3: they've hit thirty, they think whatever they think, you know,

7:40 Speaker 3: politically or or in other ways. And yeah, and and

7:43 Speaker 3: they're they're locked.

7:44 Speaker 4: In either mega, you're not mega, or right wherever on

7:50 Speaker 4: the spectrum you fall into. There's no change in your

7:53 Speaker 4: mind until something happens to you where you're like, oh,

7:57 Speaker 4: but you're on your own. You're on your own. You

8:00 Speaker 4: you're gonna go and have that Eureka moment somewhere else can't.

8:03 Speaker 4: I can't make that Eureka moment happen for you.

8:06 Speaker 3: So as part of this, I mean, obviously there's there's

8:09 Speaker 3: a lot of great reasons to do something like Adam's

8:12 Speaker 3: World that is so positive, and it's clear why this

8:16 Speaker 3: is so important and personal to you because of your son.

8:19 Speaker 3: But I'm also curious is there an element of is

8:22 Speaker 3: it also kind of like a little bit of a

8:24 Speaker 3: palette cleanser after having been involved in politics for so long?

8:28 Speaker 3: Is it sort of a relief to because it sounds

8:30 Speaker 3: like you're discouraged with the political stuff, which I can

8:32 Speaker 3: relate to.

8:33 Speaker 2: I understand.

8:34 Speaker 3: We used to do politics on my radio show, and

8:36 Speaker 3: the past year of keeping politics out of the radio

8:39 Speaker 3: show has kind of been I think, probably good for

8:43 Speaker 3: my mental health in some ways.

8:45 Speaker 2: So I think you.

8:46 Speaker 4: Start forming these petty prejudices against people, and you start

8:51 Speaker 4: to notice a Euro being a nitpicky asshole too, and

8:55 Speaker 4: you know it's like, yeah, unsubscribe something fun. I I

9:00 Speaker 4: do need the break, I do. You know, being a caregiver,

9:03 Speaker 4: a full time caregiver for one year changed me. And

9:08 Speaker 4: then some trips oversea, a trip overseas did so as well. Yeah,

9:12 Speaker 4: a different perspective where you know, should I just say it?

9:17 Speaker 3: You can on the radio show, I wouldn't have wanted

9:20 Speaker 3: to get into it. But here this is free and

9:22 Speaker 3: open and you can you can talk about whatever you want, Gracie,

9:25 Speaker 3: and I'm curious.

9:26 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I went to Lebanon and you're like, the no,

9:33 Speaker 4: not Lebanon, New Hampshire, you idiots.

9:35 Speaker 3: There's no reason to go there, no offense to anyone

9:38 Speaker 3: living up there. But it's the North Countries. Uh, you

9:41 Speaker 3: like skiing.

9:41 Speaker 4: But other than that, I I at the time fell

9:47 Speaker 4: in love with a one hundred percent Lebanese guy and

9:54 Speaker 4: love well, you know, he met my family and I

9:56 Speaker 4: had to go meet his, but his was in Lebanon.

9:59 Speaker 2: So wow.

10:01 Speaker 4: It sucked because you know, I've seen the movies, so

10:05 Speaker 4: I'm an expert, you know about because I've seen all

10:08 Speaker 4: these movies. I've seen That without my daughter.

10:12 Speaker 2: You know, great film.

10:14 Speaker 4: It is a great film. And someone actually lived on

10:17 Speaker 4: gave me a different point of view that film. But

10:19 Speaker 4: we'll get to that. Oh okay, they said, Uh, I said,

10:23 Speaker 4: I've seen not without my daughter. I'm like, I'm not

10:25 Speaker 4: gonna die here and they're like, yeah, but it's only

10:27 Speaker 4: told from the woman's perspective during the nineteen eighty four conflict,

10:30 Speaker 4: and it was a divorce trial and she wanted custody,

10:33 Speaker 4: he wanted custody. Oh, one of those moments. But anyway,

10:42 Speaker 4: getting back the dude from Lebanon, so we get we

10:45 Speaker 4: decided to get married, and he flew me out, and

10:51 Speaker 4: I'm thinking the most horrible, rotten things and I could,

10:55 Speaker 4: you know, I could relate to X And you know

10:57 Speaker 4: when they say about certain things about certain culture, and

11:02 Speaker 4: I highly suggest if you're an American to please leave

11:06 Speaker 4: the country just for a week or two every once

11:09 Speaker 4: in a while to kind of get a taste of

11:10 Speaker 4: different cultures. Because I was outside my comfort zone when

11:14 Speaker 4: I arrived at Bayroot Airport. Literally someone got kidnapped and

11:20 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking out. Like

11:22 Speaker 4: upon landing, the first story I get on my phone

11:25 Speaker 4: was someone was kidnapped and living on Bey Route right

11:28 Speaker 4: there terminal Like right there, Oh.

11:31 Speaker 3: My god, wow, Wow, that's too close for comfort.

11:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I asked elevenies police officer about it. American, yes, American,

11:43 Speaker 4: Like is it safe or do I gol or like oh, oh,

11:46 Speaker 4: you talk about that kidnapping? I'm like, they said, don't

11:52 Speaker 4: worry about it. I'm like, well, I'm an American and

11:55 Speaker 4: they said, yeah, yeah, that guy was no good. He

11:58 Speaker 4: did some bad deally, so they don't put that in

12:01 Speaker 4: the papers. So he did some bad dealings with this

12:03 Speaker 4: and that. That's that. He's like, don't worry about You're fine.

12:05 Speaker 4: Go And then I got I get to my fiance.

12:11 Speaker 4: He picks me up at the airport and find you know,

12:13 Speaker 4: to pick me up, and and I'm like, you asshole,

12:18 Speaker 4: Oh my, where the hell am I? And uh, I said,

12:23 Speaker 4: you know, someone got kidnapped. So again with the kidnap story.

12:26 Speaker 4: Okay of me, Oh yeah, don't worry about it. That's

12:29 Speaker 4: some guy. He did some bad stuff in the business,

12:31 Speaker 4: and you know he's he's on the wrong side, you know. Anyway,

12:35 Speaker 4: let's go have much. It's basically the same story the

12:37 Speaker 4: other guy gave me.

12:38 Speaker 3: So he was very nonchalant about it. It sounds it's

12:41 Speaker 3: like yeah, it's very yeah.

12:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so wow, I'm.

12:50 Speaker 4: Thriving in a you know, he doesn't. There's he has

12:55 Speaker 4: like a really low key like old Kia and he

12:58 Speaker 4: keeps there and he keeps tonight hours overseas and now

13:00 Speaker 4: I know why. So we went drive and drive and

13:04 Speaker 4: drive and driving, and it looks vaguely familiar because I'm

13:07 Speaker 4: from La and you got the palm trees, but post apocalyptic,

13:11 Speaker 4: you know. So I had all these prejudices and I

13:16 Speaker 4: was just like wow. And even he was like, what

13:18 Speaker 4: kind of moves do you watch? And he's like, see,

13:20 Speaker 4: this is the West, this is the West. They don't guess,

13:22 Speaker 4: they don't get us. And after meeting everybody at the

13:27 Speaker 4: village and all the other stuff, and talking to real

13:33 Speaker 4: human beings who have had real hardship, to a point

13:36 Speaker 4: where the worst of the worst that I think is

13:40 Speaker 4: happening in my life could never ever equate to what's

13:45 Speaker 4: happening over there. So mind you, I left about two

13:49 Speaker 4: months before the war started, so that was really close.

13:55 Speaker 4: I didn't want to come back, but it was a

13:57 Speaker 4: real spiritual trip. Anybody who is of Lebanese descent, go

14:04 Speaker 4: back home. They need you. It is beautiful, It is beautiful.

14:09 Speaker 4: There's something in the dirt, there's something in the rocks.

14:12 Speaker 4: It's it's just just such a spiritual cleanse that I needed,

14:17 Speaker 4: and that was part of the healing process for me,

14:20 Speaker 4: and a lot of the things that were taught that

14:23 Speaker 4: I was taught about Islam is not true.

14:28 Speaker 2: How long were you there?

14:30 Speaker 4: I was there for I would say about a month.

14:32 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.

14:34 Speaker 4: I spent I spent some time there. I started part

14:38 Speaker 4: I think the first couple of days that called a

14:40 Speaker 4: prayer sounded so annoying really. Yeah, so like you know,

14:46 Speaker 4: being from la and then like you never hear that stuff,

14:49 Speaker 4: and then you know, living out here in New Hampshire

14:51 Speaker 4: for like what six years now, and I got accustomed

14:54 Speaker 4: to quiet. I finally got accustomed to quiet.

14:56 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:57 Speaker 4: While so now I got called a prayer six times

15:00 Speaker 4: a day and the first three days were like let

15:03 Speaker 4: me sleep, you know, because the time travel, I mean,

15:06 Speaker 4: it really does feel like I felt like an astronaut

15:09 Speaker 4: that arrived to another planet. And that's really what it

15:11 Speaker 4: felt like. Yeah, And I don't know. The one takeaway

15:15 Speaker 4: from that trip was talking to the people and realizing

15:19 Speaker 4: how resilient they are and how I'm an American. I mean,

15:24 Speaker 4: they have a million reasons to hate my guts, and

15:27 Speaker 4: they took me in with open arms, and they even

15:30 Speaker 4: started calling me sister. Villagers came which with gifts and treats,

15:35 Speaker 4: and they wouldn't stop feeding me. I think I put

15:37 Speaker 4: on like fifteen pounds eleven and had to run off,

15:40 Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, seriously, they just keep feeding you

15:43 Speaker 4: and feeding you, and if you say no, it's against

15:45 Speaker 4: their cult. It's just not good too. Yeah, you know,

15:49 Speaker 4: so I always had to kind of like, you know,

15:53 Speaker 4: because I'm.

15:54 Speaker 3: So fool Well, we have people like that here too.

15:57 Speaker 3: They're called Italians.

15:59 Speaker 4: Italians, I think anybody who was not like from the

16:03 Speaker 4: UK right everywhere but the UK.

16:07 Speaker 2: That they want to feed you.

16:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, even the Irish they do the same thing, you know,

16:11 Speaker 4: big meals. So it was a real experience, and I

16:14 Speaker 4: mean when I wrote about it, but you know, for

16:17 Speaker 4: the sake of time, I would please tell the audience

16:22 Speaker 4: to have an open mind about Arab Americans.

16:25 Speaker 3: Yeah people, yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean it's it's

16:29 Speaker 3: important to uh No, I mean, I'm glad that you

16:32 Speaker 3: say that because you know, and I I assume that

16:35 Speaker 3: the kind of audience that has listened to my show

16:37 Speaker 3: over the years knows knows better than the than the

16:40 Speaker 3: stereotype people.

16:41 Speaker 2: But but but but.

16:43 Speaker 3: Of course, you know, we we're in this time now

16:45 Speaker 3: where it's like, you know, you look at what's going

16:48 Speaker 3: on with Israel and and Gaza, and uh, you know,

16:51 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure as as there always is, unfortunately,

16:55 Speaker 3: but I think now more than ever, not only with

16:57 Speaker 3: that issue, but just with issues in generalone so polarized,

17:01 Speaker 3: and you're expected to be all the way on one

17:04 Speaker 3: side or all the way on the other. And we

17:08 Speaker 3: live in a world that is full of nuance, and

17:11 Speaker 3: things are complicated and complex, but you're, for some reason,

17:15 Speaker 3: you're not really allowed to see things that way. You're

17:18 Speaker 3: supposed to either you know, you're supposed to either support

17:22 Speaker 3: Israel no matter what they do, or you're supposed to

17:26 Speaker 3: be completely opposed to Israel.

17:28 Speaker 2: And and I think I.

17:30 Speaker 4: Love about Gin. Yeah he's a you know, a Jewish

17:36 Speaker 4: American and that's great. And nobody's say anything about that,

17:40 Speaker 4: at least I'm not. And you know we've we've talked

17:43 Speaker 4: off air before about you know, what's going on overseas,

17:46 Speaker 4: and yeah, we're on the same page, you know, just peace,

17:49 Speaker 4: cease fire, you know enough enough?

17:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

17:56 Speaker 4: I did do an international campaign with with I was

18:00 Speaker 4: it's Mohammed Hadid and a couple of others ceasefires. So

18:04 Speaker 4: I'll send you link.

18:05 Speaker 2: That's yeah, I'd like to see that.

18:07 Speaker 3: I'd like to see that, and and and by the way,

18:10 Speaker 3: just just just for the record, for any for any

18:13 Speaker 3: listeners who are are at all confused about my position

18:16 Speaker 3: or anything like that. No, I I call uh, I

18:19 Speaker 3: call October seven a terrorist attack, and I consider Homosi

18:22 Speaker 3: terrists organization. But I also am deeply concerned about uh

18:28 Speaker 3: uh you know, just going in and wiping out everybody

18:31 Speaker 3: in Gaza over it, which from my vantage point, appears

18:34 Speaker 3: to be what's happening. And I I I oppose terrorism

18:39 Speaker 3: and I oppose genocide, and I don't think that I

18:42 Speaker 3: don't think that those are in any way a contradiction.

18:46 Speaker 3: I think you can oppose both terrorism and genocide. But again, unfortunately,

18:49 Speaker 3: for some reason we what's that. Absolutely I agree, but

18:54 Speaker 3: for some reason again, you know, it's like we live

18:55 Speaker 3: in a time where people expect you to you know,

18:58 Speaker 3: you got to be one or the other on everything.

19:00 Speaker 3: It's like, uh, no, I do want to see peace,

19:04 Speaker 3: and obviously not everyone uh you know, not all Palestinians

19:07 Speaker 3: are Amas and and all of it. You know, we

19:11 Speaker 3: have to.

19:13 Speaker 4: From from the Lebanese people. And this is a real gift,

19:18 Speaker 4: is look at the person as a human, yes, or

19:22 Speaker 4: anything else. And it sounds pretty simplistic. But living in

19:29 Speaker 4: this day and age where everything is so polarized about

19:32 Speaker 4: you know, X, Y Z or whatever whatever you're into.

19:37 Speaker 4: I mean, really, do you think do you think a

19:39 Speaker 4: Democrat will pick up a Republican bleeding on the side

19:42 Speaker 4: of the road or vice versa, because that's how polarized

19:45 Speaker 4: we are. And you know, she this woman, she lived

19:49 Speaker 4: in a village, peeling onions. She feeds the village. You know,

19:53 Speaker 4: she was so cool, but she lost she lost five

19:56 Speaker 4: sons in the war.

19:57 Speaker 2: Oh my god, imagine.

20:01 Speaker 4: I'm algobilistic after one. I mean, oh yeah. But I

20:05 Speaker 4: asked her, like, how do you keep going? Like I can't.

20:07 Speaker 4: I don't have that strength, Like I know, I don't.

20:12 Speaker 4: She said, uh, you know, believe in the human race.

20:17 Speaker 4: And there's something she said about that though, so it

20:20 Speaker 4: just connected. I connected, but I got what she was saying,

20:23 Speaker 4: Like she may not have had the best English, but

20:27 Speaker 4: you're human first, right, And it's like, you know what,

20:31 Speaker 4: we need more of that, We need more of that talk.

20:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we need to because that's something we need

20:36 Speaker 3: to hold on to, is our humanity. No matter what

20:39 Speaker 3: else happens. You know, if we once we lose our humanity,

20:42 Speaker 3: and once we stop seeing people as humans and and

20:45 Speaker 3: all life is as valuable, then uh, then we're you

20:49 Speaker 3: know then, and that happens when we become a little

20:53 Speaker 3: too vengeful, you know, a little a little too and

20:58 Speaker 3: a little.

20:58 Speaker 4: Too practicing what we preach as well, and it keeps

21:01 Speaker 4: us in check. So let's talk about the fun stuff.

21:06 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the TV show.

21:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

21:10 Speaker 4: Excuse me. So there was a lot going on. So

21:15 Speaker 4: I was actually inspired by a few eighties television shows.

21:21 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, so do.

21:23 Speaker 4: You remember like The Facts of Life and Silver Spoons?

21:26 Speaker 4: Growing We lived in the Golden Age television. But there's

21:31 Speaker 4: things about growing up that you couldn't talk about your

21:33 Speaker 4: parents with your parents it was just weird. Or your

21:37 Speaker 4: brother and sister are too stupid and you kick them,

21:41 Speaker 4: and your friends are kind of dumb and you feel

21:43 Speaker 4: stupid about bringing it up. It's about a girl or

21:46 Speaker 4: boy or whatever you're into.

21:47 Speaker 3: You know.

21:48 Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of that stuff. So I

21:50 Speaker 4: did my old research, and you know, I remember like

21:54 Speaker 4: learning a lot from eighties television and being ahead of

21:56 Speaker 4: the curve, like academically because I watched Ductales. Yeah, I

22:01 Speaker 4: remember making that lead from childhood to like my freshman

22:04 Speaker 4: year of high school. It's like that was a Ducktails.

22:08 Speaker 4: That was that Ducktails episode. I know this one. I

22:13 Speaker 4: know this one. Everybody thought I was so smart, but

22:15 Speaker 4: I was really remembering a Ducktails episode right about ancient Greece.

22:21 Speaker 5: Okay, So that's where I kind of borrowed a lot

22:26 Speaker 5: of a lot of that, you know, on the current

22:28 Speaker 5: of these three kids who are superheroes and autistic and

22:31 Speaker 5: it can travel through time.

22:33 Speaker 4: You know, like, let's have them go on adventures and

22:36 Speaker 4: inject some knowledge and wisdom about history. Would that be cool?

22:40 Speaker 4: Talk to Paul Revere and you know, get to see

22:44 Speaker 4: Plymouth Rock when it before got really boring, like during

22:47 Speaker 4: the exciting time, not just a rock. You know what

22:50 Speaker 4: happened around that time with that rock, you know, things

22:54 Speaker 4: like that. So I wanted to make it interactive and

22:58 Speaker 4: stuff that they can remember, and also get into some

23:00 Speaker 4: deep stuff like my mother passed away, getting into I

23:04 Speaker 4: think I wrote. I already wrote the episode Grandma's Gone

23:08 Speaker 4: oh okay, and it's basically an episode on how to

23:11 Speaker 4: deal with loss and death. Of someone you'd love closely.

23:16 Speaker 4: And this is something that Adam could not speak through,

23:19 Speaker 4: so he acted out. So if they have a point

23:22 Speaker 4: of reference where they don't want to talk to adults,

23:24 Speaker 4: but they can have a point of reference where they

23:27 Speaker 4: can self soothe. I want to have that to be

23:30 Speaker 4: available to not just myself but everybody. So there's that

23:35 Speaker 4: we're going to go over. Divorce. One of the characters

23:38 Speaker 4: kids gets divorced, well one of their parents get divorced

23:41 Speaker 4: and the kid doesn't know how to handle it or

23:44 Speaker 4: you know, like what did I do?

23:46 Speaker 2: Is it me?

23:47 Speaker 4: Was I a bad kid? So we want to address

23:50 Speaker 4: that heavy stuff as well as the cool time travel

23:53 Speaker 4: stuff as well, where they go on adventures, the you know, death,

23:58 Speaker 4: the three major ones, you know, death, moving, We want

24:02 Speaker 4: to get into that too, because two of the kids

24:05 Speaker 4: are new, okay, new to the school district. Yeah yeah,

24:11 Speaker 4: so it's death. There's divorce, bad stuff, a lot mixed

24:16 Speaker 4: in with you know, trying to find the answers to

24:21 Speaker 4: how many teeth t Rex has in his mouth so

24:26 Speaker 4: he'll be quite the adventure.

24:28 Speaker 3: And this is oh yeah, no, I'm sorry, Gracie, go ahead.

24:32 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one other thing too. I did have a question,

24:35 Speaker 4: someone asked me, But they're autistic superheroes. Don't you think

24:39 Speaker 4: you're isolating the other half of your audience who is

24:43 Speaker 4: not neuro divergent And that actually came up today and

24:49 Speaker 4: you know, it's a but it's a valid question though,

24:51 Speaker 4: it really is. And my response to my response to

24:55 Speaker 4: that was that it is a historical show, like where

25:00 Speaker 4: they're going to be meeting uh these big historical figures

25:05 Speaker 4: throughout the whole series, okay, and and the character arc

25:10 Speaker 4: for the uh these three characters is eventually harnessing their superpower,

25:16 Speaker 4: because that's what autism is. It's basically like spaghetti on

25:20 Speaker 4: the wall until you can organize it and you can

25:23 Speaker 4: make art instead. So that's that's kind of what we're doing.

25:27 Speaker 4: You know, we're just kind of giving them a healthy

25:29 Speaker 4: Hand's almost like you know, reaching out on the TV.

25:31 Speaker 4: He' saying, hey kid, you could you could do this too?

25:34 Speaker 2: Right? Right?

25:35 Speaker 3: And by the way, this is set right here in

25:37 Speaker 3: New Hampshire.

25:38 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, it's gonna be one hundred percent New Hampshire,

25:42 Speaker 4: New England themed all the way, because I want New

25:46 Speaker 4: Hampshire to have some pride. I grew up in la

25:49 Speaker 4: and even if you get a like a receptionist job

25:51 Speaker 4: somewhere for like really like you know, these fifty cents

25:56 Speaker 4: an hour, it's probably gonna be at someone's office that

26:01 Speaker 4: happens to be connected to the film industry. Yes, h

26:05 Speaker 4: I mean it, and I do want you know, there's

26:09 Speaker 4: a lot of New England talent here. There's a lot,

26:11 Speaker 4: and I've seen it. But there's nowhere to go. So

26:14 Speaker 4: there's two things that happen. Either they one give up

26:18 Speaker 4: the dream, get married and get serious and get a

26:20 Speaker 4: real job. Or two they moved to La yeah, yeah,

26:28 Speaker 4: and finding out the hard way about certain things about life.

26:31 Speaker 4: So it's one or two, and sometimes two ends up

26:35 Speaker 4: becoming one and they give up, they come back home

26:37 Speaker 4: and have kids. So what if what if we could

26:41 Speaker 4: save them the trip and give them access to you know,

26:47 Speaker 4: seasoned professionals, seasoned animators, seasoned voiceoveractors. I mean, imagine if

26:53 Speaker 4: you had that at your disposal. I mean you probably

26:56 Speaker 4: have to pay me to leave. I mean I would

26:59 Speaker 4: live there. If I would have held my hand and say, hey,

27:01 Speaker 4: this is how you use Adobe Illustrator, this is how

27:04 Speaker 4: you animate, or if you want to get into voice acting,

27:08 Speaker 4: this is how you do it. Yeah, and to have

27:12 Speaker 4: you know, to have that ambition and to foster I

27:15 Speaker 4: think it's really important. And who knows who the heck

27:18 Speaker 4: we could discover right uncovery, like like whose career that

27:23 Speaker 4: we're gonna launch? We're like, oh, we didn't expect that

27:25 Speaker 4: to happen, Like I was getting an oscar, Like where's

27:28 Speaker 4: my oscar? But you know, like to have that kind

27:33 Speaker 4: of pride. I have a lot of great stories about

27:36 Speaker 4: like like my mother was a seamstress for MGM. You know,

27:40 Speaker 4: like everybody had a story. My uncles used to uh

27:43 Speaker 4: press hot wax at uh at at Capitol Records. Yeah,

27:49 Speaker 4: like his job was to you know a wax.

27:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.

27:57 Speaker 4: You know, everybody I know has a story they worked

28:00 Speaker 4: with so famous or you know they got the Clint

28:03 Speaker 4: Eastwood stories or everybody's got one. So why yeah, why

28:08 Speaker 4: not bring it here a little that?

28:11 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

28:17 Speaker 3: Well, I think as as as more and more people

28:19 Speaker 3: learn about the project, I think more people are going

28:22 Speaker 3: to want to get involved, you know, because.

28:24 Speaker 2: It's it's unique.

28:27 Speaker 3: There's nothing like this, right, like like that that I'm

28:30 Speaker 3: aware of an animated show like this, like what you're

28:34 Speaker 3: developing from from this particular point of view with these

28:37 Speaker 3: types of characters.

28:39 Speaker 4: You know that, but I want them to quantum leap,

28:41 Speaker 4: you know what. They're going to have some weird mind

28:44 Speaker 4: bending stuff that's going to happen to them, and it's

28:47 Speaker 4: going to be between the audience and the kids, and

28:50 Speaker 4: the parents are completely parents and teachers are completely out

28:53 Speaker 4: of it. They're like, really, you guys are just daydreaming.

28:57 Speaker 3: You know.

28:57 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, we went somewhere. It was cool, we

29:01 Speaker 4: saw ancient civilization.

29:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but no, it's a it's a fantastic concept.

29:11 Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. And uh yeah, and I I

29:14 Speaker 3: think it's it's great that you know, it's as I

29:18 Speaker 3: always say, you know, we got to shovel as much

29:21 Speaker 3: positive energy out into the world as we can.

29:24 Speaker 2: You know, now more than ever, you.

29:25 Speaker 3: Know, whatever we can put out into the world, that's

29:28 Speaker 3: that's positive and that I think people will really get

29:31 Speaker 3: something from. And you know, so I I think, you know,

29:35 Speaker 3: when I first learned about this from you, that you

29:37 Speaker 3: were doing this, I said, you know, any you know,

29:39 Speaker 3: any way I can help, and and I just think

29:41 Speaker 3: it's it's great. It's it's fantastic, you know, and and

29:46 Speaker 3: and seeing the images too on the on the website.

29:49 Speaker 3: So you're you're you're also animating this or you're or

29:53 Speaker 3: you're working.

29:55 Speaker 4: Well, uh, this is all me right now. But I

29:58 Speaker 4: just I just talk to a friend who gave me

30:02 Speaker 4: the he'll help me out, who has a great resume.

30:07 Speaker 4: He's worked with a lot of you know, big Hollywood productions.

30:13 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to say his name is Okay, Okay.

30:15 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to, you know, like a little shy. Yeah,

30:20 Speaker 4: I know, he said, yes, definitely he's in, but I

30:23 Speaker 4: just it just happened. I'm still processing. Yeah, yeah, but

30:31 Speaker 4: I definitely. You know, it's it's hard, it's it's hard

30:34 Speaker 4: to get the pitch out and you have the right

30:36 Speaker 4: of ears listening to this. But there isn't anything like

30:41 Speaker 4: this on TV. I did notice, uh when I did

30:45 Speaker 4: my market research for autistic leads and television shows. And

30:49 Speaker 4: you have The Good Doctor. You have a show called

30:52 Speaker 4: Attorney Wu on Netflix.

30:55 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that.

30:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, And basically it's uh, you know, they're they're great actors.

31:04 Speaker 4: It's a great show. It's well written. There's another one

31:06 Speaker 4: called uh, what was it atypical and it's about a

31:10 Speaker 4: teenage boy.

31:11 Speaker 2: Heard of that one.

31:13 Speaker 4: It's about a teenage boy who reaches the age of

31:17 Speaker 4: puberty and starts dating girls but is awkward. But that's

31:20 Speaker 4: the thing. They're all awkward and kind of robotic.

31:23 Speaker 3: And there's a stereotype, isn't there. There's this autistic stereotype

31:27 Speaker 3: that shows up in entertainment and a lead that.

31:31 Speaker 4: But there's people that are still pretty ignorant to say, oh,

31:33 Speaker 4: you don't look autistic.

31:35 Speaker 2: Yeah.

31:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's still people that say that.

31:39 Speaker 3: There's a whole spectrum and there's autistic people, you know,

31:43 Speaker 3: just like anybody else's all kinds of autistic people, right.

31:47 Speaker 4: Well, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, I mean those are like

31:51 Speaker 4: textbook Yeah, so yeah, I firmly believe that they are

31:56 Speaker 4: little geniuses, and I you know, I know that there's

31:59 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff going on in those brains because

32:01 Speaker 4: you could just see the wheels turn it. You know,

32:04 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I could.

32:05 Speaker 3: Just hack that, right.

32:07 Speaker 4: And maybe they sho can in a way you know,

32:09 Speaker 4: where they can start testing reality. How much can I

32:14 Speaker 4: get away with if I really really want it?

32:16 Speaker 2: Right? Right?

32:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe we can get it too. I want

32:19 Speaker 4: a fourth kid. I do want a fourth kid eventually,

32:22 Speaker 4: and that's something that once the show takes off, I

32:25 Speaker 4: would love to do a sweepstakes on like a really

32:30 Speaker 4: cool kid who's really done something great with on the autism,

32:34 Speaker 4: on the autism spectrum. That's what I would love to

32:37 Speaker 4: do to do to add a fourth But that's later.

32:39 Speaker 3: That makes that makes sense, So as the series goes,

32:44 Speaker 3: you know, if that that universe kind of kind of

32:46 Speaker 3: expands in terms of the characters. And are there other

32:51 Speaker 3: obviously Adam is your son? Are are the other two

32:54 Speaker 3: existing characters? Are those also based on real people or

32:57 Speaker 3: are those kind of composites or did those come from

33:00 Speaker 3: imagination or my imagination?

33:03 Speaker 4: Okay, what I imagine his friends are like at school

33:06 Speaker 4: because they don't let us in because once you drop

33:08 Speaker 4: your kid off, you know, so my imagination goes crazy.

33:11 Speaker 4: He might he might have a friend that can travel

33:14 Speaker 4: through time.

33:15 Speaker 3: I don't know for all, you know, Yeah, so.

33:18 Speaker 4: There you go. You know, they could do some crazy, weird,

33:21 Speaker 4: like you know, autistic stuff, you know with mathematics, you.

33:26 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's that's cool. Though, what

33:33 Speaker 3: are they Maybe you said this already.

33:35 Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

33:36 Speaker 3: I may have forgotten, but what are the ages of

33:38 Speaker 3: the I mean, do you establish within the series? Do

33:40 Speaker 3: you establish the ages of of the three kids?

33:44 Speaker 2: Or no?

33:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, eight to ten? Okay, So I'm looking at that, uh,

33:49 Speaker 4: because that's like the honey spot where kids are sweet,

33:53 Speaker 4: they're starting to get inquisitive and they're about to hit peeby.

33:56 Speaker 4: So that's like the spot where we want to do

33:59 Speaker 4: storylines like I was say about the nineteen eighty sitcoms,

34:02 Speaker 4: Like you know, we had the Facts of Life and

34:03 Speaker 4: stuff to add some element of that undertones to the show.

34:09 Speaker 4: So if they're presented with a problem, they know how

34:14 Speaker 4: to handle it morally, okay, you know, like yeah, if

34:20 Speaker 4: Zoe can time travel, she can steal stuff, right.

34:24 Speaker 2: Is it?

34:25 Speaker 4: Would that be good or bad?

34:26 Speaker 2: Or you know?

34:27 Speaker 4: And there's also the ripple effect things like that, so

34:29 Speaker 4: there's always going to be the moral of the story.

34:31 Speaker 4: So I watched Facts of Life. Oh God, I can't

34:35 Speaker 4: believe I'm admitting this. When I watched the Facts of

34:37 Speaker 4: Life rewatching everything all over again. Yeah, yeah, and there

34:41 Speaker 4: is a They were really really really really good at

34:44 Speaker 4: the morality talk. You know, like if it's offered to you,

34:50 Speaker 4: what do you do? What will you do? How do

34:53 Speaker 4: you handle that? Yeah, and there's not there's not there's

34:55 Speaker 4: not a lot of that. They just automatically have the

34:59 Speaker 4: girl go through the worst case scenario and almost in

35:03 Speaker 4: a voyeuristic stick sort of way, you know, And and

35:07 Speaker 4: they don't really handle the inner morality talk as far

35:11 Speaker 4: as like a, y, you should be doing that and

35:14 Speaker 4: you know, kind of go from there. We don't have

35:16 Speaker 4: that anymore.

35:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.

35:22 Speaker 3: I used to watch the Facts of Life when I

35:23 Speaker 3: was a kid. I think I even remember that. It

35:25 Speaker 3: was the theme you take the good, you take the bad,

35:27 Speaker 3: you take them both in there you have the Facts

35:29 Speaker 3: of Life.

35:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly it.

35:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly watch it.

35:34 Speaker 4: But I know the themes song by heart. No, it's

35:37 Speaker 4: it's infectious. It's infectious. You know, silver Spoons. Even Small

35:41 Speaker 4: Wonder had you know, elements of harm that would come

35:46 Speaker 4: to Vicky the robot. There is this where the girls

35:50 Speaker 4: are trying to so either you're with Small Wonder or

35:54 Speaker 4: you hated Small Wonder. There was no in between Small

35:58 Speaker 4: Wonder people, so I could tell.

36:00 Speaker 3: I never I never saw a single episode of the show,

36:04 Speaker 3: but I do remember it. I just remember seeing the

36:06 Speaker 3: promos on TV for it, but I never actually never

36:09 Speaker 3: actually saw the series.

36:12 Speaker 4: Well one of the episodes, Vicky and the Robot gets

36:15 Speaker 4: off for drugs. Yeah, only in nineteen eighty six.

36:19 Speaker 3: Man, that must have been That must have been a

36:22 Speaker 3: very special small wonder.

36:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, small wonder, all right, and can go all day

36:28 Speaker 4: about this one. But uh yeah, I mean there's you know,

36:31 Speaker 4: there is another episode of the Facts of Life where

36:33 Speaker 4: Natalie gets assaulted. It's actually assaulted, oh wow.

36:37 Speaker 1: Yeah.

36:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was heavy because it wasn't in a

36:41 Speaker 4: voyeuristic six sort of way where they go through all

36:43 Speaker 4: the motions to show you exactly how right the facts allied.

36:47 Speaker 4: They give you an idea and she just had a

36:49 Speaker 4: rip jacket.

36:50 Speaker 2: Oh that's it.

36:51 Speaker 4: But it went that wasn't you had you got to

36:55 Speaker 4: hear her side of the story, being scared and afraid

36:58 Speaker 4: and alone, yeah, versus having a witness all that again

37:02 Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, yeah, So I mean I want I

37:05 Speaker 4: want those under tones of you know, these are the

37:08 Speaker 4: things that are going to come at you and how

37:10 Speaker 4: you should handle them.

37:12 Speaker 2: Yeah.

37:15 Speaker 3: Reflecting on old old shows though, like like the Facts

37:18 Speaker 3: of Life, it also makes me think about and we

37:20 Speaker 3: talked about this, I think on the radio too, is

37:24 Speaker 3: that we're fortunate that, you know, we live in a

37:26 Speaker 3: time where there are so many different ways, you know,

37:29 Speaker 3: so many different options where a show like this could

37:32 Speaker 3: go in terms of distribution. Because if we were, if

37:36 Speaker 3: we were having the same conversation back when The Facts

37:40 Speaker 3: of Life wasn't first run on NBC, you know, we'd

37:44 Speaker 3: be talking about, you know, hopefully maybe getting a network

37:48 Speaker 3: executive to show some interest in it, and how do

37:51 Speaker 3: you even do that? And of course, but you know

37:53 Speaker 3: maybe of course you mean from from la you know,

37:56 Speaker 3: you might have an end. But but it would be

37:59 Speaker 3: a very different conversation in the sense that it would

38:02 Speaker 3: be a much higher hill to climb in a sense, right,

38:06 Speaker 3: because there were so few options, whereas now because of

38:11 Speaker 3: you know, streaming and streams.

38:13 Speaker 4: Changed, the industry flipped it over. It's flipped it over

38:17 Speaker 4: its head. And I predict that the celebrity culture is

38:20 Speaker 4: dead and that the we're at the age of the influencer.

38:25 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you. I agree with you.

38:27 Speaker 4: That's where I think we're heading. Yeah, you know, I

38:30 Speaker 4: would love for you know, maybe maybe we could stick

38:34 Speaker 4: to eight to ten and do a spin off show

38:37 Speaker 4: where they quantum leap to different ages, or they can

38:42 Speaker 4: leap into a different reality where they're all live action.

38:45 Speaker 4: There's so many things we can do. Yeah, there's so

38:47 Speaker 4: many things we could do, and it's fun.

38:49 Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, And you have should we announce that you're

38:54 Speaker 6: going to be the voice we're gonna Okay, so since

38:58 Speaker 6: Matt is awesome, Matt is going to be the.

39:00 Speaker 4: Voice of Sam and Adam. Unless I like Jen to

39:06 Speaker 4: voice four.

39:08 Speaker 2: Well we'll well, we'll see.

39:10 Speaker 3: Who know you you You might you might end up

39:13 Speaker 3: hating my voices and decide you don't want you don't

39:15 Speaker 3: want me involved.

39:17 Speaker 4: Hopefully, Well there's well I'm thinking Jen, Yeah, the female here,

39:23 Speaker 4: the female voice is a little more easier to Yeah,

39:26 Speaker 4: but well we'll get into the technicalities. Yeah, yeah, I

39:29 Speaker 4: think I think you'll be great. I mean, there's gonna

39:31 Speaker 4: be lots of characters. You're gonna be my my, Hanka's area. Okay,

39:35 Speaker 4: it's like we need the lux room guy. Hey, I'm here,

39:39 Speaker 4: kids here, very south Park. You could be you could

39:43 Speaker 4: be a chef like from south Park alread you know kids.

39:48 Speaker 3: Well that no, but but I'm very I'm very excited.

39:56 Speaker 3: Like I said, I think it's it. Uh, yeah, it's

39:58 Speaker 3: it's like it's like I said, this is very positive,

40:01 Speaker 3: you know, and I think that's.

40:02 Speaker 2: Amazing and.

40:04 Speaker 3: I'm excited for the challenge of it and just to

40:07 Speaker 3: be involved on any level is amazing. So I appreciate it.

40:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is very heavy. It's a it's a heavy

40:15 Speaker 4: project because it's sort of like being a CEO of

40:17 Speaker 4: a startup. You know, you have the creative aspects of it,

40:22 Speaker 4: and then you have the artistic and then you have

40:24 Speaker 4: the uh, the infrastructure of how all this hangs. So yeah,

40:29 Speaker 4: you get a cool title like showrunner, but really, if

40:31 Speaker 4: anything fails, it's your butt. So it's like and your

40:36 Speaker 4: reputation in your ass. So it's like, ye, make it work,

40:40 Speaker 4: make it work.

40:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Is there anything else we I know,

40:46 Speaker 3: there's a probably a lot you can't say yet, right

40:49 Speaker 3: I don't know, is there anything else that At this point,

40:52 Speaker 3: we want to make sure people know about Adam's world

40:56 Speaker 3: right now.

40:56 Speaker 4: We can definitely use donations. Right now we are going

41:00 Speaker 4: through well, we want to do what I love, love

41:06 Speaker 4: love that, uh episode one. I want to be able

41:09 Speaker 4: to fund that with you know, uh, illustrations, like with

41:16 Speaker 4: real artists and have the whole team finally working together

41:21 Speaker 4: and see what happens. I want to see what kind

41:23 Speaker 4: of magic happens, but I want to be able to

41:26 Speaker 4: pay what they're worth and to be able to afford

41:31 Speaker 4: my life as a single mother as well with an

41:33 Speaker 4: autistic child. So yeah, that could help as well.

41:36 Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, and we should mention too. If you

41:39 Speaker 3: go to your website there are you know, you can

41:42 Speaker 3: you can see uh some of what the project is

41:45 Speaker 3: about there visually, and also I.

41:48 Speaker 4: Have the first script up there as well, and early

41:52 Speaker 4: concept videos, market analysis, everything there, and.

41:57 Speaker 3: People can make donations right there, correct, right there.

42:00 Speaker 4: They can go to kickstarter or they can go to

42:03 Speaker 4: the graciegatto dot com and just donate.

42:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you offer other services too through the website.

42:09 Speaker 2: We should make sure people know that too.

42:11 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely. Yes, I'm a copywriter. I have done a copywriting, screenwriting, ghostwriting,

42:18 Speaker 4: web content technical writer. So I am for higher at

42:22 Speaker 4: least until this thing gets picked up, and then I'll

42:24 Speaker 4: be married to my work.

42:26 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that'll be a good problem to have though.

42:30 Speaker 4: That would be a good problem to have.

42:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to know who you've ghost written for.

42:34 Speaker 3: But you probably can't tell us.

42:36 Speaker 2: You can't tell you can give us a hunt.

42:40 Speaker 4: Well, it comes as it comes, like, you know, I

42:43 Speaker 4: don't really know who it is. They just want like, hey,

42:45 Speaker 4: can you write a chapter maybe of this is what

42:50 Speaker 4: I got so far, but could you mix it? Yeah?

42:54 Speaker 2: Interesting, it's interesting.

42:56 Speaker 3: That's cool though, that's very cool.

43:00 Speaker 4: That's very Can you make it funnier? Can you make

43:02 Speaker 4: it funnier?

43:04 Speaker 2: Do you guys do that to punch up scripts?

43:07 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, the thing is about like chat chiput is

43:11 Speaker 4: a great tool, but there's a human element that happens

43:16 Speaker 4: with comedy writing that chat ChiPT just doesn't get right.

43:20 Speaker 4: So it's very sanitized, like like speaking like robot, you know.

43:24 Speaker 4: So it's good for certain things like here draft a

43:27 Speaker 4: report that I need blah blah blah. Yeah go, but

43:30 Speaker 4: like when it comes to like people talking and dialogue

43:33 Speaker 4: and how people interact and how they you know, approach things,

43:38 Speaker 4: is chat Chipet's got a long way to go and

43:40 Speaker 4: to figure that out.

43:41 Speaker 3: So absolutely, yeah, I don't. I don't think it'll ever

43:44 Speaker 3: be I don't think it'll ever be able to replace

43:46 Speaker 3: humans in that sense, at least I hope not.

43:50 Speaker 4: I heard it. They come pretty close depending but you

43:52 Speaker 4: still got to spoon feed it.

43:54 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

43:54 Speaker 4: It's like it's like it's like having a word blender,

43:57 Speaker 4: but you've got to put content in there blends something.

44:00 Speaker 3: So right, exactly exactly. Well, Gracie, we can, we can.

44:05 Speaker 3: Uh well we'll wrap this up, but uh there's lots

44:08 Speaker 3: of good stuff to come, and please go to Gracie's

44:10 Speaker 3: website Graciegatto dot com.

44:13 Speaker 4: Yes, all right, thank.

44:15 Speaker 2: You, Bye everybody

44:17 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Command God, don't get Supreme La MEGXO coming