Matt Connarton Unleashed: Hope The Rapper returns.

0:00 Speaker 1: We gotta hope the rapper is here with us. Hello, Hello,

0:03 Speaker 1: welcome back.

0:04 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. Thank you for

0:05 Speaker 2: the last ten weeks. It's been definitely a ride.

0:07 Speaker 1: Absolutely.

0:08 Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's easy to remember when you

0:10 Speaker 3: were on last because it was, uh, well actually it

0:12 Speaker 3: was a little over ten weeks ago. But yeah, this

0:16 Speaker 3: was an idea that I think I think you had

0:20 Speaker 3: kind of pitched it live on the show. Yeah, and

0:22 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, let's do that. That's a that's a

0:24 Speaker 3: fantastic idea.

0:25 Speaker 2: Honestly, It's been the greatest experience for myself growing as

0:28 Speaker 2: an artist because when you it's kind of like going

0:31 Speaker 2: to the gym. Honestly, for me over the last ten weeks,

0:35 Speaker 2: because as you release each single, you realize like your

0:38 Speaker 2: faults as an artist and everything like that. And I've

0:40 Speaker 2: gotten really to a point where I'm ready for the

0:43 Speaker 2: next phase.

0:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what is the next phase? What is your

0:47 Speaker 3: what is your plans going forward?

0:48 Speaker 4: So my next phase is kind of like an image

0:50 Speaker 4: control phase.

0:52 Speaker 2: So as like an up and coming artist, I was

0:55 Speaker 2: putting up like whatever videos I can just like putting

0:58 Speaker 2: stuff together here and there. Yeah, I'm actually taking the

1:01 Speaker 2: last ten weeks to save some money, and going forward,

1:04 Speaker 2: I want to invest in like the social media aspect

1:07 Speaker 2: of things.

1:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going.

1:09 Speaker 2: To help me personally, Like people will only come back

1:13 Speaker 2: to like people. As much as people say that they

1:16 Speaker 2: support amateurs, people don't support amateurs. People support professionals.

1:21 Speaker 1: Now what do you mean? I expand on that if

1:23 Speaker 1: you would.

1:24 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like I actually had a conversation

1:26 Speaker 2: with somebody yesterday. It's kind of like the food truck

1:29 Speaker 2: guy in your neighborhood.

1:32 Speaker 4: So like let's say the food truck guy. Everybody knows

1:34 Speaker 4: the food truck guy.

1:35 Speaker 2: Everybody loves the food truck guy, but he just is

1:38 Speaker 2: always going to be known as the food truck guy.

1:41 Speaker 2: Sort of like the story of like McDonald's or something

1:43 Speaker 2: like that, whereas a small business wasn't willing to expand

1:48 Speaker 2: and somebody else saw the vision and expanded that business.

1:52 Speaker 2: So for me, what I need to do is not

1:55 Speaker 2: just market here in New England. I want to start

1:57 Speaker 2: like targeting everything that I'm doing in like Los Age Angels,

2:00 Speaker 2: New York and Miami and right here from New England.

2:03 Speaker 2: I'm able to do that through targeted ads. So that's

2:05 Speaker 2: that's kind of like an image control phase. People want

2:08 Speaker 2: to see you take that step, like that step, like

2:12 Speaker 2: if if McDonald stayed in that one neighborhood, maybe that

2:15 Speaker 2: whole neighborhood would have loved it. The rest of the

2:18 Speaker 2: world wouldn't be like McDonalds wouldn't be a problem for us,

2:21 Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, So, like you have to not just

2:24 Speaker 2: stay in your small town.

2:25 Speaker 4: You have to be willing to expand so you can

2:27 Speaker 4: see the vision.

2:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course the internet makes it kind of

2:33 Speaker 3: easy to do that in a sense, but of course

2:35 Speaker 3: there's a right way and a wrong way to do it.

2:37 Speaker 3: And uh and you know to your point too, I

2:40 Speaker 3: think if you if you're not if you're not constantly

2:43 Speaker 3: moving forward and trying to expand what you do, then

2:45 Speaker 3: you you almost start to look like you're falling back

2:48 Speaker 3: exactly exactly.

2:50 Speaker 2: So like if I like so like a lot of

2:53 Speaker 2: my videos that I'm just sitting in front of my

2:55 Speaker 2: desk wrapping and stuff like that, Like if I just

2:57 Speaker 2: keep doing that for uh years and years, I'm gonna

3:01 Speaker 2: be the food truck guy.

3:02 Speaker 3: Right.

3:02 Speaker 4: But if I can now say, hey, I have.

3:05 Speaker 2: A really great job, I have some money set aside,

3:08 Speaker 2: let me invest in that people are gonna be like, oh,

3:10 Speaker 2: what what's happening with him?

3:11 Speaker 4: Now? It creates more interest.

3:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, by the way, if you have

3:15 Speaker 3: any questions or comments or feedback anything at all for

3:17 Speaker 3: Hope the Rapper, the studio line is open. You can

3:20 Speaker 3: give us a call six o three two five oh

3:22 Speaker 3: six oh seven six oh three two five oh six

3:25 Speaker 3: oh seven. And of course you can interact endo Pine

3:28 Speaker 3: in the chat room. Of course, I see a beep

3:30 Speaker 3: an artists in there and says good morning everyone, and uh,

3:33 Speaker 3: I saw somebody else in there too, But anyway, we

3:36 Speaker 3: will we'll keep an eye on that going forward.

3:37 Speaker 1: But so what these these songs?

3:41 Speaker 3: Is there any kind of a a theme with the

3:44 Speaker 3: ten singles that you that you've premiered on the radio or.

3:49 Speaker 2: So the ten singles that I've been doing is like

3:52 Speaker 2: I wanted a different sound and then I wanted to

3:55 Speaker 2: look at the metrics without like any promotion or anything

3:57 Speaker 2: like that, and yeah, like what are people listening to

3:59 Speaker 2: right now? Actually a little bit of help that I've

4:03 Speaker 2: gotten through these ten singles is one of Joiner Lucas's

4:07 Speaker 2: producers that helped him come up, has noticed me now, Yeah,

4:10 Speaker 2: and now we're.

4:13 Speaker 4: After this image control phase.

4:15 Speaker 2: Well, during this image control phase, me and him his

4:17 Speaker 2: name's Knox Beats, we're gonna be working on an EP together.

4:21 Speaker 2: So it's okidding coming. Yeah, it's definitely a step by

4:24 Speaker 2: step project.

4:24 Speaker 3: Oh that's huge. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, very good,

4:28 Speaker 3: very good. The songs that that you've been premiering in

4:33 Speaker 3: two over the last ten weeks, are these on an

4:36 Speaker 3: album or are these all do they all just exist

4:38 Speaker 3: individually as singles or are they from different places.

4:41 Speaker 4: Or they exist individually?

4:43 Speaker 2: Because like the EP that I have is gonna have

4:46 Speaker 2: and it's gonna I wanted to be like a movie. Yeah,

4:48 Speaker 2: so once I figure out the sound, like what what

4:50 Speaker 2: people are listening to, what people like for me, I

4:53 Speaker 2: do like to like when I wrap, I do like

4:55 Speaker 2: a like a conscious groups. I would like to go

4:57 Speaker 2: towards that direction and like be more of like somebody

5:00 Speaker 2: who speaks about like being more of a world together.

5:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:05 Speaker 3: So yeah, and can you tell us too about some

5:08 Speaker 3: of the people you collaborated with on these Yeah?

5:11 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I have the actually today you have Fate

5:16 Speaker 2: one coming on. Yes, So I had that single problems

5:20 Speaker 2: that was the most collabs I did on a song

5:22 Speaker 2: so far. The reason why that song meant a lot

5:25 Speaker 2: to me is I remember growing up I used to

5:27 Speaker 2: listen to like DJ Khaled. He used to be able

5:30 Speaker 2: to bring all these different type of artists and they'd

5:32 Speaker 2: go on this one beat and they'd bring all of

5:34 Speaker 2: their styles to this one beat.

5:35 Speaker 4: So I have him on that track. I have.

5:40 Speaker 2: What was it splash on that track. I have Santana

5:43 Speaker 2: Freco on that track, and then abm Diz who's also

5:48 Speaker 2: from Lowell. These all artists in LOLd So that was

5:51 Speaker 2: the clab on that one. I have the on my

5:55 Speaker 2: way that that one's gonna come out with a music

5:57 Speaker 2: video too, no kidding. Yeah, so that's with an artist

5:59 Speaker 2: from your boy Loco. Me and him are actually talking

6:03 Speaker 2: us because of how that sound track sounds to me.

6:07 Speaker 2: I think me and him are gonna be working on

6:08 Speaker 2: a lot more projects together.

6:10 Speaker 3: Oh cool.

6:10 Speaker 2: We just balanced out on a track like I come

6:12 Speaker 2: up with some like loud stuff and then he just

6:14 Speaker 2: like mellows out the track, which was really cool for me. Yeah,

6:17 Speaker 2: which other ones today? I have a collaboration that's gonna

6:21 Speaker 2: be with Jabach. He was is my best friends since

6:26 Speaker 2: I was like probably sixteen. Like we're really close friends

6:31 Speaker 2: nowadays that we are adults obviously, like we spend a

6:33 Speaker 2: lot more time apart and everything like that, but anytime

6:36 Speaker 2: that we come together and we're rapping, it's just a

6:37 Speaker 2: different environment. Yeah, That's what I've appreciated from him. So

6:42 Speaker 2: on My Way Problems.

6:48 Speaker 1: Was a snapchat? Was that just you on that one?

6:50 Speaker 4: Yeah?

6:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was that was Jenny's favorite.

6:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that that one's actually coming out with

6:55 Speaker 4: music video too as well.

6:56 Speaker 3: Oh really like that one?

6:57 Speaker 4: Yeah?

6:57 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I'm actually collaborating with this person has on

7:01 Speaker 2: the one Eye Visuals right out and lowell, Yes, that's

7:04 Speaker 2: gonna be. So we are gonna shoot ten reels in

7:10 Speaker 2: one day, and then we're also shooting three music videos

7:13 Speaker 2: all within like a three week span. Okay, yeah, so

7:16 Speaker 2: then I'll have thirteen different videos that I could play

7:19 Speaker 2: around with. Oh wow, hold in my pocket. So then

7:22 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start dropping those once the fall starts.

7:24 Speaker 3: Okay. Is it difficult when you have when you have

7:29 Speaker 3: all this, as you said, in your pocket, when you've

7:31 Speaker 3: got kind of a things that you know you can

7:34 Speaker 3: release on kind of a timetable, is it is that

7:39 Speaker 3: does that take some discipline to do that, because I

7:41 Speaker 3: could just imagine if you've got certain things that you're

7:43 Speaker 3: particularly excited about releasing, but obviously you know you don't

7:47 Speaker 3: just want to put it out there all at once. Yeah,

7:49 Speaker 3: but that must be kind of tough when it's like, oh,

7:51 Speaker 3: I can't wait to put this out and I but

7:53 Speaker 3: I can't do it yet.

7:55 Speaker 2: Yes, that is kind of like the most important thing

7:59 Speaker 2: you could do for yourself as an artist, Like, yeah,

8:01 Speaker 2: you want to put out good songs, don't get me wrong,

8:03 Speaker 2: but like you'll you'll make these songs, certain songs, and

8:06 Speaker 2: you're like, that needs to be held till I'm in

8:08 Speaker 2: the better position. Yeah, and you have to get yourself

8:11 Speaker 2: in that better position. I've actually I feel like I

8:13 Speaker 2: have a few songs that I've dropped. When I first

8:16 Speaker 2: started that I should have just held for a little

8:18 Speaker 2: bit because as people saw me girl as an artist,

8:20 Speaker 2: and if I dropped this song, it would have been like,

8:22 Speaker 2: oh wow, okay, and that eagerness is kind of why

8:28 Speaker 2: I straight away for dropping for so long. But then

8:30 Speaker 2: I was like, I haven't dropped in a while, let's drop.

8:33 Speaker 2: I have a whole bunch of songs right now, I

8:34 Speaker 2: probably have over fifty to sixty songs ready, Oh no kidding. Yeah,

8:38 Speaker 2: So I was like, let me just drop ten singles

8:42 Speaker 2: and learn myself as an artist.

8:43 Speaker 4: It wasn't. Yes, as an artist.

8:45 Speaker 2: I wanted a lot of people to listen to this,

8:47 Speaker 2: but I wanted to learn myself my patterns. So like,

8:50 Speaker 2: when I drop a song, am I following through with

8:53 Speaker 2: a real laughter?

8:53 Speaker 4: Am I doing this? Like? What will create the most

8:56 Speaker 4: success for each single?

8:58 Speaker 2: And I do kind of see a process that is

9:01 Speaker 2: actually going to work out for me?

9:03 Speaker 1: Yeah? And where do you?

9:04 Speaker 3: I know we I'm sure we talked about this last time,

9:06 Speaker 3: but I'm always really really curious where do you record?

9:09 Speaker 3: Do you have a is there a studio that you

9:10 Speaker 3: work out of? Do you record from home?

9:12 Speaker 4: Or yes?

9:12 Speaker 2: So I work right out of a stupid Genius Studios

9:16 Speaker 2: that's right in Lowell, Massachusetts.

9:18 Speaker 4: Yeah.

9:19 Speaker 2: And then I also work with mister Goodbars of course.

9:22 Speaker 1: Oh yes.

9:22 Speaker 2: And more recently, who I'm going to be working with

9:26 Speaker 2: I is going to be knocks beats? Have you ever

9:29 Speaker 2: heard the song isis by Joinner Lucas and logic I

9:32 Speaker 2: don't think I have Okay, he also has this song

9:36 Speaker 2: I'm Not Racist.

9:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that what I'm very familiar with. There was

9:38 Speaker 1: a lot of yeah I remember when that came out.

9:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's the producer behind those tracks. Okay, so

9:44 Speaker 2: before Joyner was like he met Joiner whenever he was

9:47 Speaker 2: going to the same like grind Mo ciphers that I

9:49 Speaker 2: was going to, and Joinner really wasn't an artist. Yeah,

9:52 Speaker 2: and then they started working together and obviously join to

9:54 Speaker 2: put his work. But the way that this artist produced,

9:57 Speaker 2: the way that he listens to beats and everything like that.

10:00 Speaker 2: Actually had our first consulting meeting yesterday.

10:02 Speaker 4: Yeah.

10:03 Speaker 2: It's he's heard even tracks that I've put out in

10:06 Speaker 2: the last ten weeks, and he just has all these

10:08 Speaker 2: different ideas and that's what I need. And like, I'm

10:11 Speaker 2: a creative genius myself, but I don't have the years

10:14 Speaker 2: and everything like that behind what's popular. Like he he

10:18 Speaker 2: will hear a drum beat and be like that sounds

10:19 Speaker 2: like a pattern from twenty seventeen.

10:21 Speaker 4: You shouldn't be using that.

10:22 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeahah, what do you mean a pattern from

10:25 Speaker 2: saying and He's like, no, in twenty seventeen, they were

10:27 Speaker 2: doing this, Yeah, now they're doing this. If you want

10:29 Speaker 2: to be on like the if you're on an algorithm correctly,

10:32 Speaker 2: you have to do it this way. And just little

10:34 Speaker 2: stuff like that, little tweaks like that, that's what makes

10:37 Speaker 2: the difference between the greats and everything.

10:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, things that most people wouldn't even wouldn't even consider. Yeah, yeah,

10:43 Speaker 3: it's interesting that you know the way some people can.

10:48 Speaker 3: And again it's through experience, as you were saying, how

10:50 Speaker 3: they can pick up on the subtleties of that and

10:52 Speaker 3: things that most people probably wouldn't even notice. I remember

10:57 Speaker 3: having a conversation with DJ Reckless Enough, you know, DJ

11:00 Speaker 3: rest Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, yeah, our adopted son, so

11:05 Speaker 3: to speak.

11:05 Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He had done.

11:11 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm even supposed to talk about it,

11:12 Speaker 3: but I don't think it matters. He had done a

11:14 Speaker 3: remix of, uh, what's a Nate Smith? I think that's

11:17 Speaker 3: his name, World on Fire, the country song. He had

11:20 Speaker 3: done a remix, but I think he had done it

11:22 Speaker 3: with somebody else, and he played it for me, and

11:25 Speaker 3: it was so good. It was like a like a

11:27 Speaker 3: EDM remix of it.

11:28 Speaker 1: It was really really good.

11:29 Speaker 3: But and I was like, you got to put that out,

11:32 Speaker 3: or you gotta put it up somewhere you can, I

11:34 Speaker 3: asked him, can I play that on the show? You know?

11:36 Speaker 3: It's it's really catchy, yeah, and very The remix he

11:39 Speaker 3: did was very well done, and he was like, I

11:41 Speaker 3: don't know, it kind of sounds like it sounds like

11:43 Speaker 3: four years ago, and I'm like, four years ago?

11:47 Speaker 1: Really? You whatever?

11:48 Speaker 3: It sounds great, yeah, but he was very unsure of it,

11:52 Speaker 3: you know, about.

11:53 Speaker 2: Putting little things like that, like yeah, and it's maybe

11:58 Speaker 2: what I'm thinking about it just looking from that outside

12:00 Speaker 2: in like it's not like music nowadays isn't good, but

12:04 Speaker 2: like the music that I latched onto was a little

12:07 Speaker 2: bit older music.

12:09 Speaker 3: Yeah.

12:09 Speaker 2: So whenever I hear like these beats and everything, I'm like, wow,

12:12 Speaker 2: that's amazing. But I'm not thinking about the marketing. I'm

12:15 Speaker 2: not thinking about all those little things that are going

12:17 Speaker 2: to make me different. Be like yeah, that already came out.

12:19 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want to be something that already

12:21 Speaker 4: came out.

12:21 Speaker 2: You want to be something brand new that people gonna

12:23 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I've never heard that before, right, right?

12:25 Speaker 3: Is there a risk of overthinking that?

12:29 Speaker 2: Yes, because then you don't want to be an artist

12:32 Speaker 2: that's too creative. So it's nothing, nothing against him at all,

12:37 Speaker 2: but like we have somebody like Kanye where he has

12:42 Speaker 2: always been dropping and he's always had success with his drops,

12:45 Speaker 2: but more recently and like with Vultures Too, he he

12:50 Speaker 2: released it, but he's releasing it as something that he's

12:52 Speaker 2: editing constantly m M and never put any like the

12:56 Speaker 2: marketing behind it. Yeah, So it was never even like

12:59 Speaker 2: like these sounds are something that people want to hear.

13:01 Speaker 2: So we're not even driving around listening to any of

13:03 Speaker 2: these songs. There's my growing up, my life. Anytime that

13:07 Speaker 2: Kanye has dropped, he's been on the radio for the

13:08 Speaker 2: next like month of my life.

13:10 Speaker 4: Right and now, like.

13:13 Speaker 2: Being too creative, we'll just make people like just look

13:17 Speaker 2: at you and then you just they look at you

13:19 Speaker 2: and then they look away because it's not something that

13:21 Speaker 2: they're ready to look at you.

13:22 Speaker 4: You have to be relevant.

13:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like a beat that sounds like twenty twenty

13:28 Speaker 2: nine is not going to help me right now in

13:29 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

13:31 Speaker 3: I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just

13:35 Speaker 3: I wonder, I mean, so were you always kind of

13:40 Speaker 3: thinking about that or is this something you've like, like

13:42 Speaker 3: you mentioned. I'm sorry what's his name again that the

13:44 Speaker 3: produced knocks?

13:45 Speaker 4: Yeah?

13:46 Speaker 3: Or is this something you got from him? Or did

13:47 Speaker 3: you kind of already sort of so have a feeling

13:50 Speaker 3: for that.

13:51 Speaker 2: I couldn't put it in words, Yeah, but i'd i'd

13:56 Speaker 2: like hear certain songs and them I'm like, that's a

13:57 Speaker 2: really good song.

13:58 Speaker 4: But yeah, like.

14:00 Speaker 2: Whoa, I don't know, Like I don't know why I

14:02 Speaker 2: don't want to release it, like yeah, like even like

14:05 Speaker 2: a lot of like my lyrical stuff, Like I have

14:09 Speaker 2: a lot of lyrical stuff that I haven't put out

14:11 Speaker 2: because I'm like, I don't know if I'm ready to

14:13 Speaker 2: release that.

14:14 Speaker 4: For me, I think.

14:15 Speaker 2: It's more of you have to establish your voice first.

14:18 Speaker 2: It's not like gain popularity. No, you have to establish

14:21 Speaker 2: your voice as somebody that people want to listen to. Yeah,

14:23 Speaker 2: once people want to listen to you, you can hit

14:25 Speaker 2: them with the creative stuff here and there and test

14:27 Speaker 2: the waters. But when you're getting into like that water,

14:32 Speaker 2: you don't want to just like drown yourself right right.

14:35 Speaker 2: You have to like slowly step into the water, feel it,

14:37 Speaker 2: make sure that your body can adjust to it and

14:39 Speaker 2: get used to that environment, and then you can be

14:41 Speaker 2: the fastest swimmer in the world.

14:42 Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, these these ten singles that you've put out,

14:47 Speaker 3: did any of them kind of surprise you in terms of,

14:50 Speaker 3: you know, because some of them are obviously collaborations. Did

14:53 Speaker 3: any of these kind of surprise you in how they

14:56 Speaker 3: came out? Did they come out differently than what you

14:58 Speaker 3: had initially envisioned? Obviously when you're working with other people,

15:01 Speaker 3: there's always that chance that something's gonna come out really different.

15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah.

15:05 Speaker 2: So for me, it was the on My Way single,

15:08 Speaker 2: as like, for me, I was going at that like

15:14 Speaker 2: and then he like with his verse, he was like

15:18 Speaker 2: pull up, wait and then he's just like brings.

15:20 Speaker 4: You down, And I was like, I didn't hear the

15:22 Speaker 4: beat that way.

15:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this was gonna be like, ah, we're

15:26 Speaker 2: getting everybody hyped. But and then there was a way

15:28 Speaker 2: to bring it, like have your voice in a different

15:30 Speaker 2: octave yeah, and like like make it like a all right,

15:33 Speaker 2: we partied, let's calm down all my.

15:35 Speaker 3: Way Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, who's kind of your Obviously

15:40 Speaker 3: you're very open to collaboration, and you know, and you're

15:42 Speaker 3: working with people who are really advanced in the industry. Now,

15:46 Speaker 3: do you have kind of like a dream uh, collaboration,

15:49 Speaker 3: maybe someone you want to record with, or maybe maybe

15:52 Speaker 3: a producer that you really want to work with. Just uh, like,

15:55 Speaker 3: do you have somebody in mind who you really want

15:57 Speaker 3: to work with?

15:58 Speaker 2: So I have two people, Well, one's a possibility. One

16:02 Speaker 2: is I'm working towards. So I have working towards would

16:07 Speaker 2: be Millies right out of Boston, because that's a great artist.

16:10 Speaker 2: But actually recently got in touch with Jada Kiss his

16:14 Speaker 2: son's management, and I got a quote on the collaboration

16:18 Speaker 2: and everything like that. The numbers look amazing for like

16:21 Speaker 2: who he is son. I just found out that he

16:25 Speaker 2: had a son that could rap. I was like, yeah,

16:27 Speaker 2: wait what and he's like like young like me and

16:30 Speaker 2: everything like that. So I got in touch with his

16:32 Speaker 2: manager and everything like that. So somewhere towards the beginning

16:35 Speaker 2: of next year is what I think I'm gonna do

16:37 Speaker 2: a song with Jada Kiss the Sun outstanding, outstanding, but

16:41 Speaker 2: Milli's that's that. That's somebody that I really do want

16:45 Speaker 2: to work with. He's a local artist. He helps people

16:47 Speaker 2: out and everything like that, which I appreciate.

16:50 Speaker 4: Yeah. I had.

16:53 Speaker 2: This song that I released on my first EP called

16:55 Speaker 2: right Now, and that was with GMT Mark B and

17:00 Speaker 2: he ended up doing a song We're the ones who

17:02 Speaker 2: brought Millis out.

17:03 Speaker 4: He did a song with one of Millie's people.

17:05 Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of I'm letting that song have

17:08 Speaker 2: its sing because I don't want to be like I

17:09 Speaker 2: want to take your shine.

17:10 Speaker 1: Yeah.

17:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I'm going to reach out and be like, hey,

17:12 Speaker 2: how did this happen? That I just need to get

17:14 Speaker 2: in contact with the people.

17:15 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, we kind of assume that a lot of

17:20 Speaker 3: the people who listen to our show, you know, because

17:23 Speaker 3: of the guests that we have on in the conversations

17:25 Speaker 3: that we have, that a lot of them are musicians.

17:28 Speaker 1: Do you have kind of advice.

17:30 Speaker 3: For for people who maybe are just starting out or

17:33 Speaker 3: or maybe you've been doing it for a while, but

17:35 Speaker 3: who have made a lot of mistakes because you know,

17:37 Speaker 3: you're on you're on such a positive forward trajectory. Yea,

17:41 Speaker 3: And but a lot of people, you know, and you

17:44 Speaker 3: can you can just look at social media and see,

17:46 Speaker 3: you know a lot of people they feel like they

17:48 Speaker 3: get stuck. Some people they've been at it for a

17:51 Speaker 3: while and they feel like giving up because they they

17:54 Speaker 3: don't feel like they're advancing anywhere. They're not getting anywhere.

17:57 Speaker 3: Do you have any advice for for people who are

17:59 Speaker 3: kind of going through that, or maybe just somebody somebody

18:02 Speaker 3: really young just starting out and you want to kind

18:04 Speaker 3: of maybe maybe some pearls of wisdom on mistakes not

18:07 Speaker 3: to make and that kind of thing.

18:09 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think it goes back to that conversation

18:12 Speaker 2: I had with Don's Beats, which really just changed my

18:14 Speaker 2: mind a lot about things.

18:17 Speaker 4: So you want to not limit your.

18:25 Speaker 2: Capability to the visibility you're getting on social media. There's

18:30 Speaker 2: a lot of legwork that you can do outside of

18:32 Speaker 2: that for yourself as an artist, well, like that immediate

18:34 Speaker 2: social medium. Yeah, there's different avenues like like if you

18:38 Speaker 2: want to like produce beats, you can go on like beatstorm.

18:41 Speaker 2: You can make your own independent accounts away from your

18:46 Speaker 2: friends and like your family. So that way you're not

18:49 Speaker 2: scaling your success based upon how your immediate community is reacting.

18:55 Speaker 4: And that's what I feel like. When I did take

18:58 Speaker 4: that little break, I was.

18:59 Speaker 2: Like my immediate communit unity, I don't think they want

19:01 Speaker 2: me to be rapping. And when I started again, the

19:05 Speaker 2: medium community is like, why'd you stop those little things?

19:08 Speaker 4: Like you don't want to scale yourself. People.

19:10 Speaker 2: People will support you and support you and support you,

19:12 Speaker 2: but then you have to go find different support. Yes,

19:15 Speaker 2: you don't want to just have that like your initial supports.

19:18 Speaker 2: That's an amazing thing, don't get me wrong, But you

19:21 Speaker 2: need to constantly be looking and trying to put yourself

19:25 Speaker 2: out there. Like I said, target your instead like it

19:28 Speaker 2: gives you the option when you're like, first of all,

19:31 Speaker 2: don't get bots, go directly through those source. If you're

19:35 Speaker 2: going through like a Facebook, going through an Instagram, going

19:37 Speaker 2: through TikTok and they ask you where you want your

19:39 Speaker 2: ads to be, don't put it in your don't put

19:42 Speaker 2: in your local libor see.

19:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, what attention you could get from strangers.

19:46 Speaker 2: Because even when I first started, I was doing songs

19:50 Speaker 2: with people like in Florida that I'm still friends with,

19:52 Speaker 2: and I've never met these people. We just when I stopped,

19:56 Speaker 2: we just randomly stopped talking and everything like that. But

20:00 Speaker 2: I felt better whenever I was releasing music as something

20:07 Speaker 2: like for me and something that I was willing to

20:09 Speaker 2: put out for myself, because that's when you'll go the hardest.

20:12 Speaker 2: As soon as you start putting something out and then

20:14 Speaker 2: you look over and be like did I do a

20:15 Speaker 2: good job, it's eventually might somebody might be like tired

20:19 Speaker 2: one day. Right, it was all right, like I actually

20:23 Speaker 2: didn't listen to it, or like those little comments will

20:25 Speaker 2: start getting to you and start eating you out. Yeah,

20:27 Speaker 2: So the value of your success should never be based

20:29 Speaker 2: upon your media community.

20:31 Speaker 3: Right right. Yeah, I think that's good advice. Yeah. And

20:34 Speaker 3: you always want to yeah, you always want to be

20:36 Speaker 3: expanding your fan base, expanding.

20:38 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly because then like you'll find yourself like if

20:44 Speaker 2: the same people don't react, you was just like all right,

20:47 Speaker 2: all right, all right, I guess I'll stop because like

20:49 Speaker 2: these people don't like it anymore. Not knowing like you

20:52 Speaker 2: could put up a video ten fifteen times and it's

20:55 Speaker 2: going to hit the fifteenth.

20:57 Speaker 4: You just got to keep doing your reps.

20:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really good advice. Yeah. You

21:02 Speaker 3: mentioned when you had taken a break before, and I

21:04 Speaker 3: think we talked about that too the last time you

21:06 Speaker 3: were here.

21:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't remember was that.

21:08 Speaker 3: Because was that because you were discouraged at the time

21:12 Speaker 3: or were you just doing other things.

21:14 Speaker 2: Or mixture of Like, so my lifestyle at the time,

21:16 Speaker 2: I was like partying and everything like that. I got

21:18 Speaker 2: caught up in that world, and then I just would like,

21:23 Speaker 2: with the people like I was partying with and hanging

21:25 Speaker 2: out every day, I didn't hear them talking about like

21:30 Speaker 2: my music or anything like that.

21:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's not doing as good as I thought.

21:34 Speaker 2: So then I just like randomly it was no announcement

21:37 Speaker 2: or anything like that, because that's I feel like it's

21:40 Speaker 2: probably actually a really damaging thing that you could do

21:42 Speaker 2: to yourself as an artist. If you're gonna stop, just stop,

21:45 Speaker 2: because you don't know if you'll come back, right, But

21:47 Speaker 2: if you start disappointing people, they won't come back.

21:50 Speaker 1: Right, right exactly. Yeah, well, well said.

21:56 Speaker 3: Abdel, but I always butcher his name. I'm so sorry,

22:00 Speaker 3: Abdel Boggie Hamadas in the Chatterman says, uh, good evening,

22:03 Speaker 3: mister Mattuh what time is it now in New Hampshire.

22:07 Speaker 3: Here in Egypt it is four pm Egypt. Yeah, yeah,

22:11 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got nine to twenty seven

22:15 Speaker 3: a m.

22:15 Speaker 1: Eastern time here.

22:17 Speaker 3: Everywhere you're on Tomorrow Radio in Ireland can do remos

22:21 Speaker 3: anywhere evening or late afternoon, perhaps arend Ireland. I have

22:26 Speaker 3: no idea.

22:27 Speaker 4: Amazing.

22:29 Speaker 3: Hans Smith from the band Sepsis is in the chat

22:32 Speaker 3: room says hey metal. Matt Hans is asking, uh, what

22:36 Speaker 3: inspired you to get into music?

22:39 Speaker 2: My dad, So when we first moved to America, I

22:45 Speaker 2: actually like remember the first song rap song I heard.

22:49 Speaker 4: It's probably bow Wow.

22:52 Speaker 1: Oh okay, do you remember what song.

22:54 Speaker 4: Bow wow Wow?

22:57 Speaker 2: I'd like remember that because oh okay, yeah, Like we

23:01 Speaker 2: just moved to America and everything like that. We had

23:02 Speaker 2: just gotten like TV and everything like that. And I

23:05 Speaker 2: remember my dad he called me. I was like in

23:08 Speaker 2: the room or something like that. He called me over,

23:10 Speaker 2: like George, Georgeorge, check this out, check this out. And

23:12 Speaker 2: then he's like he's young like you, and like, bout

23:16 Speaker 2: is your part for me? So like that gave me

23:18 Speaker 2: like a scale. I was like, oh wow, that's cool

23:21 Speaker 2: what he's doing. And then he started playing NAS for me.

23:24 Speaker 3: He oh that's right.

23:25 Speaker 1: I remember we talked about that before.

23:27 Speaker 3: Yeah.

23:28 Speaker 2: He had this one DVD that NAS put out that

23:32 Speaker 2: he bought it best By.

23:34 Speaker 4: It was they Hate Me Now music video.

23:38 Speaker 2: It was like, uh, back back in the day that

23:40 Speaker 2: used to come out with music videos. Behind the scenes,

23:42 Speaker 2: it was a whole different thing, like making the that

23:44 Speaker 2: was a TV show actually on MTV, so like I'd

23:47 Speaker 2: watched that over and over again.

23:49 Speaker 4: And then so my mom found out that I was

23:52 Speaker 4: listening to at music.

23:53 Speaker 2: It was like no, no, no, no, no no, because we

23:55 Speaker 2: are like a religious family and some content can't affect people,

24:00 Speaker 2: and so it just became something I listened to like

24:02 Speaker 2: on my own. And then my friend in my freshman

24:09 Speaker 2: year of high school, his name was Cody, he told

24:15 Speaker 2: me that he could record music with a rock band Mike,

24:21 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what are you talking about? And you

24:23 Speaker 2: just plug the USB into your computer just like you

24:25 Speaker 2: would like anything else, and then you can use this

24:29 Speaker 2: program called Audacity. So I went and I got the

24:36 Speaker 2: instrumental for I'm Still Fly by Drake, and then I

24:42 Speaker 2: recorded my first that was the first like recorded song,

24:45 Speaker 2: was a remix I'm Still fly by Drake. I recorded

24:49 Speaker 2: them and then I showed it to my dad, and

24:51 Speaker 2: my Dad's like, okay, so make a CD and I'll

24:55 Speaker 2: get you to the CDs. And so then I made

25:00 Speaker 2: a whole little like mixtape thing because I was what

25:03 Speaker 2: was popular at the time for rappers, like you made mixtapes, yep.

25:07 Speaker 4: So I got one hundred CDs. I forget the website

25:11 Speaker 4: I got from.

25:11 Speaker 2: But I got one hundred CDs and then they sold

25:13 Speaker 2: out and I was like that I sold out.

25:16 Speaker 4: He's like what, He's like, you sold out. I was like,

25:19 Speaker 4: all right, we'll get some more.

25:21 Speaker 2: And then so we got some more and then like

25:23 Speaker 2: I did that till like I I pretty munch should

25:26 Speaker 2: have realized, like I sold everybody that was willing to buy. Yeah,

25:30 Speaker 2: this point, I sold like three hundred CDs from my

25:32 Speaker 2: first w please, which was looking back, I'm like wow,

25:37 Speaker 2: like yeah, I was fourteen, fifteen years old.

25:40 Speaker 3: Just that's fantastic with a.

25:41 Speaker 2: Box of CDs, Like who wants these? Yeah, and people

25:45 Speaker 2: were buying them. And people still bring that up, like

25:47 Speaker 2: remember whenever you sold.

25:48 Speaker 4: Me a CD?

25:49 Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. Yeah, that's fantastic. Heather Stockwell is

25:54 Speaker 3: in the chat room and says, uh, did you ask

25:56 Speaker 3: about the name Hope? How did that name come about?

25:59 Speaker 4: Uh?

25:59 Speaker 1: Where does you derive hope from? Personally?

26:02 Speaker 3: Oh?

26:02 Speaker 1: Great question, Heather, Okay, perfect.

26:05 Speaker 4: So Hope was the second name I chose.

26:09 Speaker 2: So when I first gone into music itself, like producing

26:14 Speaker 2: music itself, it was so I was into rap because

26:18 Speaker 2: my dad, but producing music, I got into DJing. Yeah,

26:22 Speaker 2: so I was DJ unsigned minor and then at a

26:26 Speaker 2: certain point I told myself that's not marketing.

26:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like it. That's kind of cool.

26:31 Speaker 4: Like if for me, I was like, you're not going

26:33 Speaker 4: to be a minor forever.

26:34 Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

26:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, turning into like I think I was turning like

26:38 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen, I'm like, no, you're getting older now you're teenager.

26:42 Speaker 2: You're not a minor, right, But I was still a

26:43 Speaker 2: minor obviously. Yeah.

26:45 Speaker 4: So then I was thinking of like different names, and

26:47 Speaker 4: I was like, what do I.

26:48 Speaker 2: Want to talk about like at the end of the day, Like,

26:51 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna like have a rap name, it has

26:53 Speaker 2: to be something I talk about.

26:54 Speaker 3: Yeah.

26:55 Speaker 2: At that point, I just decided most of my raps

26:56 Speaker 2: are going to be more of a positive, hopeful message. Yeah,

26:59 Speaker 2: I Hope the Rapper. And then I was upset actually

27:02 Speaker 2: because a year or two after I came out with

27:07 Speaker 2: Hope the Rapper, Chance the Rapper came out yes, and

27:11 Speaker 2: I was like, I thought it was so creative and

27:14 Speaker 2: he blew up before me, right right, So, like I

27:18 Speaker 2: was for my own to just remind myself, I came

27:21 Speaker 2: out with Hope the rapper for us. I always look

27:22 Speaker 2: up like when he came out, and then like when

27:24 Speaker 2: I came out and he was like all right cool, yeah, yeah,

27:26 Speaker 2: not going crazy.

27:26 Speaker 4: Yeah.

27:27 Speaker 3: I can relate to that a little bit because you know,

27:29 Speaker 3: with the name of the radio show. Whenever I see

27:32 Speaker 3: Unleashed in something the name of somebody's radio show or podcast, I'm.

27:35 Speaker 1: Like, oh, like I did that.

27:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. But the good news is, you know, it's extremely

27:41 Speaker 3: unlikely that I'm ever going to find another Matt connorton

27:43 Speaker 3: Unleashed because exactly Connor, there actually is another Matt connord

27:46 Speaker 3: in New Hampshire. Yeah, but he's my uncle, so it

27:49 Speaker 3: doesn't count.

27:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, family, Yes, yes.

27:53 Speaker 3: Hans is also asking do you have a favorite song

27:55 Speaker 3: of all time?

27:57 Speaker 2: Uh?

27:57 Speaker 3: He lists a few genre genres here metal, hip pop,

28:00 Speaker 3: or reggae. I don't know if you listen to metal

28:02 Speaker 3: at all, but although hanging out, hanging out with mister goodbars,

28:05 Speaker 3: you might have heard some stuff.

28:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've I've heard metal.

28:09 Speaker 3: And he produces everything. He's he's like the most diverse producer.

28:14 Speaker 4: First, Like, so I it was a whole Me and

28:17 Speaker 4: him were just like internet friends.

28:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I went to a studio for the first time,

28:21 Speaker 2: and I realized his diversity, and I'm like, this is

28:23 Speaker 2: this man's creative He's not He's not just it's not

28:26 Speaker 2: just a rapper I'm looking at.

28:27 Speaker 4: This is a musician.

28:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah it all.

28:30 Speaker 4: I know it all. You can rap, you can like

28:33 Speaker 4: just get it. Yeah.

28:35 Speaker 2: But so I can say metal is just a category

28:39 Speaker 2: that I've been just getting into. One of my employees

28:41 Speaker 2: at work, Gavin he like just has been introduced me

28:45 Speaker 2: to artists because I'm trying to have more of like

28:47 Speaker 2: an open mind when it comes to music.

28:50 Speaker 4: No woman, no cry.

28:51 Speaker 2: If for talking reggae, yeah, and rap.

28:54 Speaker 4: Music, that would be that's a hard one.

29:03 Speaker 3: It probably probably changes, right.

29:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if I were to say I know I can't,

29:08 Speaker 2: is that I don't know if I can.

29:10 Speaker 4: I know I can buy nas? Yeah, Yeah, that's that.

29:13 Speaker 2: That was a song because that if I think back

29:15 Speaker 2: to like really like looking at that music video and

29:18 Speaker 2: everything like that at the time, like hard Knock Life

29:21 Speaker 2: came out, that song came out, but that song a

29:22 Speaker 2: little resonated with me a little bit more and just

29:24 Speaker 2: hearing like the kids in the background. Ye, I want

29:26 Speaker 2: to be on a song that big one day. Yeah,

29:29 Speaker 2: maybe not the kid in the background, but I want

29:30 Speaker 2: to be on a song that big one day.

29:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think my favorite is uh it kind of

29:35 Speaker 3: changes over time, but I think Jay Z ninety nine problems.

29:41 Speaker 4: Once you hear that guitar is just like different. Yeah

29:44 Speaker 4: yeah yeah.

29:46 Speaker 3: Rick Rick Rubin did an amazing job on that. Yeah.

29:51 Speaker 3: I thought I saw another question in there, but maybe not. No,

29:54 Speaker 3: I guess not the But you as far as producing

30:00 Speaker 3: now currently though, you everything's pretty much self produced, right,

30:04 Speaker 3: I mean obviously when you're collaborating with people, but I

30:07 Speaker 3: mean the songs like like Snapchat that's just you on that, right,

30:10 Speaker 3: did you?

30:11 Speaker 1: Did you do that all yourself?

30:12 Speaker 2: No?

30:13 Speaker 4: So that I have a producer that I work with close.

30:16 Speaker 2: His name's Chaz Oh Okay, he actually runs a stupid

30:19 Speaker 2: genius studio. Oh right right right, So self producing, I

30:25 Speaker 2: like do that like on my own right now, I'm

30:27 Speaker 2: really learning how to like get that down. But I

30:31 Speaker 2: found like whenever, like I was first releasing music, that

30:34 Speaker 2: was like a stress.

30:34 Speaker 4: Factor for me.

30:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I'd have a really good song, but

30:39 Speaker 2: I listened to it so many times. I'm just like

30:41 Speaker 2: mm hmmm, yeah, but like having like for me having

30:44 Speaker 2: it like that produces there for me. Were we bounce

30:47 Speaker 2: off ideas back and forth, so like snapchat like started

30:51 Speaker 2: out with like a different like tone and everything like that,

30:54 Speaker 2: and he's like bring it up a little bit, like

30:57 Speaker 2: and we did those little tweaks to the song. Yeah,

31:00 Speaker 2: just having that creative mind in the studio with me,

31:01 Speaker 2: bouncing ideas back and forth has been the most helpful

31:05 Speaker 2: for me.

31:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because some people are kind of the

31:07 Speaker 3: opposite where they can't and and maybe some people I

31:12 Speaker 3: think maybe it's ego or they just or they get

31:15 Speaker 3: nervous letting someone else, you know, have any control over anything.

31:18 Speaker 1: But some people can only self produce, you know what

31:21 Speaker 1: I mean.

31:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it's like they can't they can't

31:24 Speaker 3: else And.

31:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's overwhelming and like that that too.

31:28 Speaker 2: So like I I one hundred percent was there, But

31:31 Speaker 2: then I was just thinking about for me, my like

31:35 Speaker 2: releasing the music, like I want to be able to

31:38 Speaker 2: not really necessary basically have no effort, and like I

31:42 Speaker 2: spent all this time recording because when I write and

31:44 Speaker 2: like stuff like that, if I'm like actually writing and

31:46 Speaker 2: not just like rapping as I go, it's it's a

31:49 Speaker 2: research process for me, like I look up references and

31:52 Speaker 2: everything like that because I want you to be complete. Yeah,

31:55 Speaker 2: so I'll look up like if I say something about

31:59 Speaker 2: like a bottle of water, I look up like the

32:01 Speaker 2: history of water and try to come up with a

32:03 Speaker 2: line for the next line based on what I've learned.

32:07 Speaker 2: So it if you like look at it lyrically, you

32:10 Speaker 2: could actually learn a lot.

32:11 Speaker 3: Are there other artists who who you know who who

32:14 Speaker 3: do that, who have said that they do it that way?

32:17 Speaker 3: Because there are there are some people you listen to

32:19 Speaker 3: and you think, how do they how do they come

32:20 Speaker 3: up with these words?

32:23 Speaker 4: No, so that I feel like that's an untalked about world. Yeah,

32:27 Speaker 4: in the rap world, like how did you write this?

32:29 Speaker 4: Like what what were you doing?

32:31 Speaker 2: Because like I think as an artist, we think like

32:33 Speaker 2: there's some songs that like it'll sound like the happiest

32:36 Speaker 2: song in the world, but you weren't in the right

32:38 Speaker 2: place whenever you wrote that song, like you were trying

32:40 Speaker 2: to get yourself out of that right and that's songs

32:43 Speaker 2: that would helped. So I think talking about that's that's

32:45 Speaker 2: an interesting question you asked about that because like talking

32:48 Speaker 2: about the writing process, I don't think I've ever sat

32:52 Speaker 2: down with another rhye and be like, what were you

32:54 Speaker 2: doing whenever like you wrote this, Like how do you

32:55 Speaker 2: what's your what's your process? Yeah, everybody's like it's like

32:58 Speaker 2: the secret recipe.

33:00 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. I've always been kind of fascinated by that.

33:04 Speaker 3: That and the uh the memory skills that it must

33:07 Speaker 3: take that I assume you just develop over time, right, Yeah.

33:11 Speaker 2: No, So the memory skills are interesting because I wonder

33:14 Speaker 2: how other rappers do it. Me I because I like

33:17 Speaker 2: I had the history with music. I'll use like parts

33:20 Speaker 2: of like the beat, the tone and everything like that.

33:22 Speaker 2: I'm like, once it drops an octave, that's when my

33:24 Speaker 2: voice starts.

33:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I have a song.

33:28 Speaker 2: That I was writing recently that like I wrote it

33:31 Speaker 2: in my car because I could hear it a certain way,

33:33 Speaker 2: and then I want to go play it in some

33:34 Speaker 2: different speakers and I didn't hear that drop. Everything was

33:37 Speaker 2: off and it took me a while to like get

33:39 Speaker 2: myself back to that point.

33:40 Speaker 3: So it can backfire, yeah, yeah, because I you know,

33:44 Speaker 3: I've I've played in rock bands and uh, you know

33:48 Speaker 3: a rock song, you know you got two or three verses,

33:51 Speaker 3: maybe four lines on the age it's easy, you know,

33:54 Speaker 3: you just you just learn it. It's if you listened

33:56 Speaker 3: to it a few times, you you know the lyrics.

33:58 Speaker 3: But uh, but I pop song, it's like there's a

34:01 Speaker 3: lot of words. That's something I've always been really fascinated by.

34:04 Speaker 3: And I think too, And I've I've had this argument

34:07 Speaker 3: with people because and uh, somebody specific does come to mind,

34:11 Speaker 3: and Jenny probably knows who I'm thinking of this someone

34:15 Speaker 3: we know in particular who's very critical of hip hop,

34:18 Speaker 3: who just doesn't like it. But the thing that I've

34:20 Speaker 3: always told people too is, you know, one of the

34:22 Speaker 3: things that rappers don't get enough credit for is just

34:25 Speaker 3: being able to remember all those words and and then

34:29 Speaker 3: and being able to recall that and deliver those words,

34:32 Speaker 3: especially like.

34:34 Speaker 1: Like battle rappers.

34:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, like those and they show up prepared with all that,

34:39 Speaker 3: Like how do they remember all?

34:40 Speaker 1: That's amazing to me?

34:41 Speaker 3: It must be like like memorizing dialogue from a movie script,

34:45 Speaker 3: like like because I can't imagine being able to do

34:47 Speaker 3: that either.

34:48 Speaker 1: And I think I have a pretty good memory, but

34:49 Speaker 1: I don't know how.

34:50 Speaker 3: I don't know how actors managed to do that. I'm

34:52 Speaker 3: fascinated by that.

34:53 Speaker 2: I'm that that that I'm fascinated so me, I would

34:56 Speaker 2: have to say the reasons why am I right makes

35:00 Speaker 2: sense is because of like the memory part, because like

35:03 Speaker 2: I'll remember like the storyline behind as I'm rapping. Maybe

35:06 Speaker 2: not everybody I was able to see it, but I

35:08 Speaker 2: always have like a different vision.

35:11 Speaker 4: Battle rappers to me though, are some of not.

35:15 Speaker 2: If not the most like influential for me because like

35:20 Speaker 2: they have no beat, They're they're telling a story and

35:26 Speaker 2: they don't miss a beat. I'm actually funny you mentioned

35:29 Speaker 2: battle rappers. Next Saturday. Next yeah, yeah, next Saturday. I'm

35:37 Speaker 2: actually opening up for one of the biggest battle rappers

35:40 Speaker 2: in the world in Massachusetts. His name's Charlie Clips.

35:43 Speaker 3: Yes, his name came up recently, I think. I think

35:45 Speaker 3: when we were talking with good Bars, actually his name

35:47 Speaker 3: came up and and I ended up going one because

35:50 Speaker 3: I I'm really fascinated by that stuff. So I found

35:53 Speaker 3: some of like what was the I think did he

35:56 Speaker 3: battle Daylight? Yeah?

35:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that was one of the ones

36:00 Speaker 1: I watched.

36:00 Speaker 3: Daylight. I'm kind of fascinated by.

36:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh he Daylight.

36:04 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't give him credit, like he's

36:06 Speaker 2: he's a little weird, but like, yeah, he writes for

36:08 Speaker 2: a lot of industry rappers.

36:10 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.

36:11 Speaker 4: If you look up.

36:12 Speaker 2: His accreditation, this the songs that you wouldn't think that

36:14 Speaker 2: Daylight wrote, and he wrote that.

36:16 Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

36:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, like he might.

36:19 Speaker 2: So at first, I was like kind of unwilling to

36:22 Speaker 2: accept him because of like how abstract it was, like

36:24 Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier.

36:26 Speaker 4: But then I realized, like, no, he's just doing that

36:29 Speaker 4: because he can't.

36:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh he's brilliant.

36:32 Speaker 2: Yeah no, He's talks about things that like you will

36:35 Speaker 2: have to do research, and then once you do the research,

36:37 Speaker 2: like oh.

36:38 Speaker 3: Okay, yep, yeah no, those those guys are fascinating to me.

36:43 Speaker 3: I I recently saw some battle raps on YouTube, guy

36:48 Speaker 3: named and then and then I found out he was

36:50 Speaker 3: just murdered. Pat Stay, Yeah from Toronto. Yeah no, Pat Stay,

36:54 Speaker 3: he's I saw a couple of his and then and

36:56 Speaker 3: then I so I looked at more about him, and

36:57 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, he died.

36:59 Speaker 1: He's like thirty six or something like super young.

37:03 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, yeah, Pat's dam I'm not

37:05 Speaker 2: sure if it was him or diabolic but Eminem actually

37:07 Speaker 2: made a movie on battle Rap, another.

37:10 Speaker 4: Movie on Battle Rap. Oh, I didn't know that him

37:12 Speaker 4: or Diabolic are in it.

37:15 Speaker 2: And it's about a young kid who's just like a

37:19 Speaker 2: middle school student or a high school student and he

37:24 Speaker 2: just is trying to make it in the Battle of

37:25 Speaker 2: the Yeah, that world. So it's like very eight mile ish. Yeah,

37:28 Speaker 2: but I think you can see it actually on two B.

37:31 Speaker 3: Yeah.

37:31 Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a really good a lot. I'm

37:33 Speaker 2: surprised that eminem didn't get it on Netflix or something.

37:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even know about it.

37:37 Speaker 4: Recently, just came out and really good.

37:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be damned.

37:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, my favorite is my

37:44 Speaker 3: all time I go back and watch it every once

37:46 Speaker 3: in a while. Cortez versus Daylight.

37:48 Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen that.

37:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to see it. It's really Cortes is

37:52 Speaker 3: amazing too. Cortes is just just so so good. Yeah,

37:56 Speaker 3: because there's that oh King of the Dot, apparently they're

38:01 Speaker 3: still around.

38:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're actually gonna be.

38:03 Speaker 3: Karen Lawrence, right, they do like some stuff and Lawrence.

38:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're gonna be doing a battle soon and

38:08 Speaker 2: within the next two weeks with the Talk of the

38:11 Speaker 2: Town folks.

38:12 Speaker 3: Oh okay with Gussie Hendrix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

38:16 Speaker 3: He was interesting to talk to. He's got he's got

38:18 Speaker 3: a lot going on. I was, but have you been

38:20 Speaker 3: on his podcast yet?

38:21 Speaker 4: Yeah? You have been?

38:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, so little little side interviews that it shows because

38:25 Speaker 2: I mainly collaborate with him for a lot of shows. Yeah,

38:28 Speaker 2: so we got two show, one show this month, one

38:30 Speaker 2: show next month. So he his work ethic, that's why

38:37 Speaker 2: it's an amazing person to have in your circle.

38:39 Speaker 3: Yeah.

38:39 Speaker 4: He just goes and goes and goes and goes, and

38:42 Speaker 4: like he sees the vision like he did.

38:44 Speaker 2: It's tunnel vision for that and that's the kind of

38:46 Speaker 2: tunnel vision I want to try to adapt.

38:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I looked online and I was like, oh,

38:50 Speaker 3: he makes a lot of content.

38:52 Speaker 1: He's very, very busy.

38:53 Speaker 4: Absolutely outside of that, he's working too, so right crazy.

38:57 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well but that's what it takes, right Yeah, so.

39:00 Speaker 1: No, good, good for him, Good for him.

39:02 Speaker 3: So now, what's so we've done the ten weeks but

39:05 Speaker 3: you did mention so you have another single you're working

39:07 Speaker 3: on now or yes?

39:09 Speaker 2: So that that single I'm really excited for. It's just

39:12 Speaker 2: got the final version this week. So one thing about

39:16 Speaker 2: music is, like I said, my mom shed we've grown

39:19 Speaker 2: up in a Christian home. She just kept it together

39:21 Speaker 2: that way, and so she's always asked me to make

39:26 Speaker 2: like a Christian song.

39:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had mentioned that last time you were here.

39:29 Speaker 4: Yeh, yeah, So I have this this one song.

39:33 Speaker 2: One of the first people when I was on that

39:34 Speaker 2: rock band Mike, to get me off the rock band Mike.

39:37 Speaker 2: He brought me to the Boys and Girls Club in Nashville,

39:43 Speaker 2: which has a studio for the kids to use.

39:46 Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh that's cool.

39:47 Speaker 2: That's shout out to the Boys and Girls Club in Nashville,

39:50 Speaker 2: because that place gave me a lot of hope because

39:54 Speaker 2: it was the first place I saw a soundboard. It's

39:57 Speaker 2: the first place I saw an actual booth. And so

40:01 Speaker 2: he Rich Rhymes or is c s Lit Now his

40:03 Speaker 2: name was Rich Rhymes cs Lit. He brought me there

40:07 Speaker 2: and like got memberships and then that just became somewhere

40:12 Speaker 2: that I like, that's how I got from transition from

40:14 Speaker 2: the rock band Mic to the booth.

40:17 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, Oh, that's very cool and that and

40:19 Speaker 1: that's that studio.

40:20 Speaker 3: Is still there.

40:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, studio is still there. It's in the teen room.

40:23 Speaker 2: So if like you're a teenager and you're a national

40:25 Speaker 2: New Hampshire and you're looking to make music and you

40:27 Speaker 2: don't know't necessarily what to do, you go to the

40:29 Speaker 2: boys Club and there's.

40:31 Speaker 3: A spot for you, no kidding, that's awesome.

40:33 Speaker 1: Do they have somebody there?

40:34 Speaker 3: I assume they have someone there who kind of shows

40:36 Speaker 3: the kids how to Yeah, there must be some sort

40:38 Speaker 3: of a class, right that they offered us.

40:39 Speaker 2: I don't think there was a class, but there is

40:41 Speaker 2: like an in house producer. Yeah, but like that's awesome.

40:45 Speaker 2: The awesome part is is yeah, so like, yes, it

40:49 Speaker 2: would be cool to have an in house producer and

40:50 Speaker 2: everything like that. We were left alone to learn a

40:52 Speaker 2: lot of that. Yeah, so like we learned how to

40:55 Speaker 2: mix a master on on they had they.

40:57 Speaker 3: But that can be an advantage long term too, when

40:59 Speaker 3: when you're forced to figure it out exactly.

41:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're given you're sixteen years old, somebody puts fruity

41:05 Speaker 2: loops in front of you and you're just like, yep,

41:09 Speaker 2: I mean I have everything I can to make the song.

41:11 Speaker 4: So if I want to make it and this is

41:13 Speaker 4: how I have to do it?

41:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And For listeners who don't know Fruity Loops

41:16 Speaker 3: is a recording program. Some people might think you're talking

41:19 Speaker 3: about cereal.

41:22 Speaker 2: I remember the first time that people were like, did

41:24 Speaker 2: you get Fruity Loops? And I'm just like looking at you,

41:25 Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you I'm asking how to make

41:27 Speaker 2: me right?

41:29 Speaker 3: Right? I was literally imagining you looking at a bottle

41:33 Speaker 3: of steiler right right?

41:34 Speaker 1: What do I do with this?

41:36 Speaker 2: Love?

41:37 Speaker 4: I know that honestly one of my favorite cereals.

41:40 Speaker 3: Social Oh really yeah, well, so all the time goes quickly,

41:45 Speaker 3: but and this ten weeks flew by.

41:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad we were able

41:49 Speaker 1: to do that.

41:50 Speaker 3: And again, you know, going forward, anything if you you know,

41:52 Speaker 3: we'd love to be the first supremiere it anything that

41:55 Speaker 3: you put out.

41:55 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll probably send that a song to you guys

41:59 Speaker 2: that I've dropping in in like two weeks.

42:00 Speaker 1: Oh please? Yeah, yeah, awesome? And uh what else should

42:03 Speaker 1: we not do?

42:03 Speaker 2: You?

42:03 Speaker 1: Do you have any shows coming up or anything you

42:05 Speaker 1: want up?

42:05 Speaker 2: So next next Saturday, have the show with Charlie Clips

42:10 Speaker 2: that's in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with the Talk of the town

42:12 Speaker 2: folks and go on talk of the town's Facebook page

42:15 Speaker 2: to get some more information on that next month we're doing.

42:19 Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting on one eye visuals versus talk

42:23 Speaker 2: of the town is completely friendly yea. But like artists

42:26 Speaker 2: that work would like typically perform at Chalcola Town are

42:29 Speaker 2: just that typically perform with one eye visuals. We're gonna

42:31 Speaker 2: be in Lowell, Massachusetts doing a show over at the Smokehouse.

42:34 Speaker 1: Cool.

42:36 Speaker 2: And then other than that, what I'm going to be

42:38 Speaker 2: doing for myself is I'm dropping a lot of videos. Yeah,

42:41 Speaker 2: expect a lot of videos, a lot of content, proper

42:44 Speaker 2: marketing towards every single one, Yeah, and just really elevating

42:47 Speaker 2: things to the next lab level and working on image control.

42:50 Speaker 3: Oh, very cool, very cool? And uh, where should people

42:53 Speaker 3: go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?

42:55 Speaker 2: So Instagram is Hope the Rap. You could look up

42:58 Speaker 2: Hope the wrapper on face Book. TikTok would also be

43:02 Speaker 2: Hope the Rap and TikTok, Instagram and Facebook, and then

43:08 Speaker 2: you could always look at my music videos on YouTube

43:11 Speaker 2: too as well, Hope the Rapper. I do have a

43:14 Speaker 2: new music video called fourth in Gold that came out

43:17 Speaker 2: a couple of months ago.

43:18 Speaker 1: Yep.

43:18 Speaker 2: Shot those with actually people that work were joining Lucas,

43:21 Speaker 2: so it's nice to align myself with people that brought

43:24 Speaker 2: somebody else to the next level.

43:25 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much and

43:29 Speaker 3: in a moment we'll end the segment with we'll play

43:31 Speaker 3: it again Aviction. Notice the brand new single. Thank you

43:34 Speaker 3: and we look forward to hearing everything that you do

43:36 Speaker 3: in the future. Always wonderful to have you on.

43:38 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, and thank you

43:40 Speaker 2: for having my friends on. This is a great platform.

43:42 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, absolutely glad to do it.