Matt Connarton Unleashed: Kenneth Wood

Our wonderful guest returning. Although he's a he's a man of multiple identities musically.

Kenny Truon is here. Hello, Hey, what's going on today?

It's Kenneth Wood, though, Kenneth Wood. Kenny is uh, he's he's

back in Dover right now. I gotcha, I got you. So you're

so you are Kenneth Wood. Yeah, I like you know, and wrestling

when you tag someone in, Yeah, you tagged in Kenneth Wood. And

he's working right now. So Kenny's Kenny's on break right now. Well,

very good. Well, yeah, I was listening to these Kenneth Wood songs

and I really really like him. Nice man, I really like Oh we

should acknowledge too. A big week? What's that been? A big week?

Just dropped like a new baby coming into the world. So these are

so we're hearing these for the first time. Yeah, this is a on

the radio. This is a world radio premiere. Is another radio world premiere

from the Kenny Truon Universe. We like that, we like that. There's

actually there is a a great song from Kenny Truon of the Kenny Truan Universe.

A great news song too. Unfortunately, we can't play that one here.

Yes, we can't. We're still working on a I want to do

a radio version of it, yeah, where it doesn't have a bleep in

it. Yeah. Yeah, But I also don't want to sacrifice because it's

kind of needs it. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like

a give and take. This song that we're talking about is don't this one

up so you could fill in the blank. And what's funny? I was

saying to Jenny about it. Yeah, she she plays it all the time.

It's in a regular rotation at home. Thank you, yeah, thank

you appreciate it. I actually I really love music. You're my indie playlist.

Oh yeah, that's really cool. Thank you so much for that.

I was saying to Jenny, you know, because sometimes I'll do you know,

I call it a poor man's radio edit, but you know where you

just take the swear any reverse it and and I'll do that if if you

know. Sometimes artists will send me things and you know, I'll need a

little extra atit or whatever. But I I said to Jenny, I don't

think I could do this with this song because it would ruin it. You

know what I mean exactly? It says it so many times too, so

it's like it would just be repetitively like awkward. Yeah you know, but

uh yeah, it's been it's been an exciting week released. That song released

on Valentine's Day. The Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon album The Legend Continues.

It's is part two of a album series with the Brothers Nylon, who

played every instrument on that album and produced it. And I'm I'm just dancing

vocally on it. Who are the Brothers Nylon? The Brothers Nylon are a

amazing twin duo from Long Island, New York who I met one night at

a It was like an underground show in some basement where there was like a

rap cipher with like tons of rappers. But there's these two guys, one

on keys and one on drums with like a bucket hat and glasses on,

just playing And they literally played for three hours straight without stopping. Wow,

And like all these differ rappers were just jumping on. They would just go

into different things, and I was like, who are these these guys?

Like what is going on? And I met them out in the parking lot

afterwards, and and then I ended up moving like a couple of minutes down

the road from them, like a year later, and we ended up making

all these these songs and we just had a had a great time. We're

still doing it. Yeah. They do a lot of string stuff for my

other Tendy chuon rock songs especially. Don't beat this one up. They nick

plays the strings from the Brothers Nylon. Oh okay, yeah, okay,

very cool. Well let's I wanna I want to play these? We should

start with uh, this night is of the ones you sent me. This

is my personal favorite. This is the opener. Yeah, yeah, this

is uh, this is the party, right, this is a really good

track. So let's give this this whoops, sorry, there's still something.

We got a little bit of a new I like this. Yeah it's cool.

Yeah, I mean the old place was nice, but this is so

everything's new and clean. I do like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

it's very it's very cool. So this is called This Night Kenneth Wood

and then the Brother's Nylon and uh, and this just came out, just

came out Valentine's Day. Well, premiere in the radio right here, the

world radio premiere. Okay, this is this is my favorite. Check this

out now or forever. Hold your pet, get down, they'll break the

floor. The sounds like everything we need this brown it's shaken from the beat.

Hey time, it's been the bumping one, the smart life to be

happy while we're still around, Hey time, we ain't stuff, But if

the song comes down, small live here in the angel. So let's man

snatches last longer. Let's man snatches last. Let's make Snatchestsson then longer.

Let's make Snatchessen the longer. Don't go just sad? No God, so

much to live for the name wha before ever? God? Damn is it

ever? Hey time, it's being a bumpy woman. It's more life to

be had while was still around. Hey time, we ain't stop. But

if the sun comes out, it's more lives. Were here in the age

of saying, let's make snatches lasted, Let's let's oh that is the world

Radio premiere this Night by Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon. Did I get

that right? Yes? You did? Good? Good? Yeah, slips

right off the tongue, that one very nice. Uh did you work with

did you work with them? On the previous Kenneth Kenneth would almost said Kenneth

Night I'm not used to do it. I'm still gonna used to be doing

a character for something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, still get used

to doing this in the morning. But yeah. Did you work with them

on the previous Kenneth Wood stuff. Yeah, Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon

h The first album was called The Legends of Kenneth Wood. Yeah, and

the second one the Legend Continues. So this is the second installment working with

them. But on my not my, but this guy Kenny truon Mangastine album.

They did all the strings. Oh really did that album too? Yeah,

Okay, they're like there. We work hand in hand on stuff,

like together. We do a bunch of collaborations. We're still we got other

new music in the pipeline as well. But yeah, I love working with

them. Yeah. It's and they're in New York. They're in Florida now.

Oh they're in Florida. Yeah. They we were in the around the

pandemic. We I somehow moved out by them. They were out east on

Long Island and then we did a lot of work there. But then they

moved to Florida and I moved to New Hampshire. So okay, So we're

like we do music, send each other stuff online? Yeah, well,

like I always say, and you know, we might have even talked about

it the last time you were on the show. It's quite a time that

we live in where you can do that, you know, it's kind of

it's kind of great, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

Now what else? Uh? What else have you got going on? Because

you have these multiple musical personalities? I feel like, is there another one?

I'm forgetting there is another one? Snotty nose, oh hip hop?

Yes, and that's uh that's actually coming next on the pipeline. Yeah.

So yeah, the universe it keeps. I have all this stuff planned to

release, so it's it's almost like sort of like a comic book world,

but like with music. And I launched my Patreon January first, try to

get because I don't think anyone really understands, like they're just like, oh,

he just but they will as soon as it's like been like six months

of constant releases that people will understand I think by then. Yeah, So

I suggest everyone join the Patreon if you want to get in tune with what's

going on with the Kenny trun universe. Yeah. Yeah, how do people

find that. The best way to do it is my Instagram at Kenny truon

music and uh there's a link tree there with everything Oka, merch, Patreon

videos, all the genres of music I do, all the characters. Yeah,

so excellent. That's the best way to find it. Excellent, excellent.

Let's listen to another track now, I've got one pulled up here,

falling in Love with Myself. Yes, this is the first single I put

out for it a month ago. Okay, yeah, okay, what does

that mean? I mean, yeah, we're always like trying to, you

know, look for love or or or we maybe we're broken heart in we're

trying to heal the wound with replacing that with something or But this is more

of a song. And I look in yourself in the mirror and kind of

like deep searching in her, like you're like, what's her? It's early

in the morning. I'm trying to get it right. But basically like,

look inward and heal yourself first before you try to like love someone else,

you know what I mean? Yeah, love self first, that's first and

foremost. And sometimes it's hard to love yourself. Sometimes we all are our

own worst critic. Yeah, but every now and then there's there's something that

is shown to you, whether it's a sign or light or whatever. But

you are You're the most important thing to take care of, like of your

piece, your peace of mind, yourself. So love yourself, everybody.

Yeah, yeah, good advice, positive message. I like it. Let's

give this a listen. Falling in Love with Myself Kenneth Wood and they have

a brother, brother's Nylon. I keep wanting to put the word midnight in

there somewhere like Kenneth Wood in the Midnight Nylon say something. I don't know

what this is. This book series or album series is hoping to a lot

of things we can talk about that. There you go, there you go.

All right, let's give this a listen. Falling in Love with Myself

and you said this was the first single, the first thing. Yeah,

excellent, excellent, this love conle p faith. You're my home, and

I swear I'm feel safe. I have home. I think you'll say,

for the rest of our days, will you how to trust again? I

know it's hard. I treated like a god. It's always with me.

Always remind me just because it hurts doesn't mean it wasn't worth it. I

don't regret, it's more lie expected. You don't owe me anything, just

want you to be happy. Don't even know what's happening to me. Your

eyes are capturing my heart. That's cold, dan frozen. It's so hot

soup. Even get over sill. You couldn't be my dasty. I feel

lit every time you're next to me. When my heart is cold, dan

FROs it's so hot soup, even get over it. Love this love,

to leap of faith. You're my home, and it's to swear, and

you'll say I have home. I think you'll say, for the rest of

our days? Will you how to trust again? I know it's hard.

I treated like a scarle. It's always with me, always reminding. Just

because it hurts doesn't mean it wasn't worth it. Very nice, very nice

that it's called falling in love with myself. That is Kenneth Wood and the

Brothers Nylon. Hey, I did it, Yes, you did it.

I knew you'd get at at some point it just fell out of my mouth.

It was. It was so easy, all right, Yeah, it

just uh it took me a little while there to get there. Yes,

yes, very very cool. Uh, we've got a couple other tracks that

will play, but oh we should mention too. You were commenting off air,

you really like that that song Unicycle by Jerry and the Scumbags. I

do our wonderful, our wonderful, wonderful friend who made a whole album of

songs and many of them reference the show, and yeah, we have a

lot of fun with I love that. That's great. Yeah, yeah,

it's of it all in house, like it's very inside jokes, but it

turns into like legendary, like oh yeah, he list't had ten years from

now. I mean like that was fine and brings back memories and yep,

I like that. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Now do any of these songs

get do you play these out? Or do you just do the Kenny Trutan

stuff or we're actually I'm thinking I'm talking to the brothers right now. Or

do a Florida tour, oh, because Florida is pretty big. Yeah,

so we want to do some some good spots in Florida. Yeah, we

want to because I feel like that our music in Florida would actually do pretty

well because it's kind of like, yeah, no doubt, you know,

a little little dancy night time vibe. I think so, Yeah, yeah.

Have you played out with them before? I have, Yes, we

have done. They have performed with me on Kenny Troon set. It's actually

there's should be on YouTube somewhere, a live set somewhere. But also we've

done a three piece set where it's just the three of us and we've kind

of done a little hip hop little Kenneth Boy, little Keuntry and all in

one set. Oh really together? Yeah, that was fun. That was

my birthday, like twenty twenty one maybe. Oh yeah, so that was

like the last time before they moved that we played together. Oh, very

cool. I want to take him home right now to shout out to my

mother, who just turned seventy yesterday. Oh, happy birthday, mom.

Yes, Evelyn, your son's awesome. We're gonna we're gonna hang out tonight.

So I'm gonna no you get live. Is she here or is she

in New York? She's in Sanbornville, New Hampshire. Oh okay, yeah,

because I remember when you were on the first time, we talked a

lot about uh oh that that's coming back to me now. So are your

family's here? But you lived in New York yes for a while. Yeah,

we all lived in New York but they left way early. Oh that's

what it was. Yeah, And I stayed because I was like, my

dreams are in New York. That's right. Yeah, Muscle Bustle, you

had the uh, you had a band and a record deal and the whole

thing. Yes, I had a lot of stuff going on then. Yeah.

Yeah. Is it more I'm sure we talked about this before, but

is it more rewarding being able to kind of do do your own thing where

you're not because I know the obviously it didn't work out with the band and

all of that. Is it Is it more satisfying to be able to do

it the way you're doing it now? Yeah? I would. I would

never change the journey or the long road that it's taken for me to just

be able to do everything myself. Yeah, not have anyone telling me what

to do. Yeah, because I would think I would think too, it

would be you know, in in that if you were still in that configuration,

that would be you wouldn't have the freedom to even really Yeah, you

know, like if you had the band and you're also Kenneth Wood, you

know, and as much as it didn't work out, it kind of did

because it's all a learning lesson, and it's all like things that I'm taking

with me to make sure it doesn't happen again or improve upon it. It's

all, it's all a learning curve. So yeah, it makes sense.

Well, let's let's listen to another track I've got because the internet seems to

be working on this computer, just not on the computer I would normally be

using, so I can play it from here. This uh party Flave,

Party Flave. This one will get the get everyone jumping. I think Kenneth

Wood and the Brothers Nylon, yep, I hesitated that time, but I

got there. Party Flave. Yeah, streaming on all platforms. Go listen

to the album now. The legend continues. Coming up soon, We're going

to have a song called party Flave. Where can people tune in to listen

to you? People? People can tune in follow me Kenny truon music.

That's t r u h N Kenny truon music on Instagram. You could go

follow my YouTube page rare all the videos on it and just look up Kenny

truon t r u h N and uh, yeah, you find me all

there. You have plans to go to any other stations coming up? Are

you Hi. I'm wide open right now. I'm kind of like, you

know, I go wherever I'm invited to the parties, at the parties that

here today, So I'm here with y'all. Do you have any live performances

coming out? Snanni Knows is going to be playing a Flask Lounge in Portland,

Maine on three eleven for Monday of the Minds Hip Hop Showcase. I

love how you all these different characters. Do you character have their own wardrobe?

Yeah? They all look different, they all sound different. They all

yeah, like Kenneth Wood's more of a like a softer voice. Can you

Truan's more of a raspier voice. Yeah, I noticed that different. And

Snotty Nose is rapping. So it's a lot of I kind of keep them

compartmentalized. Do you have different people that play with you with each project or

do you have like a group collective that pretty much sticks with you. I

do have like a group, a solid group collective that like rolls with anything

I do. Like they don't really ask questions or I'm just like, oh

I got this product and they're usually down, so shout out to them.

I was watching a live performance with yours on YouTube, and you had quite

a few people up there and it was awesome. Yes, it was so

awesome. Yes. So I'm not sure which one it was, but it's

probably one of the more recent ones. It was. I went down the

Yeah, can you throw a rabbit Hole? Is pretty good? It is,

Actually, it very much is because I put it on I started painting

and then I just went through whatever. I feel honored you're painting to it,

because that creating to something I created is really great. That's a good

Uh. I really do generally enjoy your music. It's really cool. I

would One of the ones. The other ones I loved was the Falling in

Love That you did that one and you guys, you gotta go on to

YouTube and check out his channel. Two specific videos that I think are really

awesome is the Falling in Love and that that don't this one out? Yes,

which is my personal favorite. I hear that song in my head.

Oh. I love that. Those are the two newest too. They've just

video is this really cool? Like cartoon? Yeah? Graphic who did that?

I did the video, but I have help from like three or four

different apps that I used. I make the videos all on my phone.

Get out. I swear on your phone. Yeah, and I film it.

I act in it, and then I run it through different like effects

filters, and then I take the best from each app So this is an

actual video of you that you've then morphed into this. Yeah, that's crazy.

I thought the cartoon was created. It's taken me a few years to

kind of get better at it because it's another thing I need to be able

to do, and I also want to do it necessarily, like where I

don't have to wait on anyone else. I could just kind of do it

all. So I have some good news. I think I've solved one of

our gremlins. So we'll try this again. This is all right, everybody,

get your chips and dip. Here we go. I just love you.

You will get down to the back up. You gotta do this before

you waiting your free flag. I get down to the feet, won't you

putty me? And you will get down the back up. You gotta do

this before you pay your free flag. I get down somewhere heavywhere Okay?

You you you're invited. Let's keep this party dolling b night. I don't

don't ahead. I guess we'll find out all the bright come on real real,

just when you get there? What to do when you hit this groopy?

This party flavors carle fo, you know your feet spotty flames coming through

swhere and where everywhere? Why pray? Why pray, diy pay diy pray?

Why flame hi flame? Try flame? I backed out? Would take

don't show too bunny? Would be? Get down to the backup. You

gotta do mus be free, you're free flag, Get down to the beach.

Don't you putty with me? Can you get down with a back cop?

You gotta do his be free, wave your freak flag. I get

down now that your attention so it feel to let it? Oh hang out?

The spot in flavor is coming through. Get off your feet. This

party flavor is coming through somewhere, can where everywhere? I don't care.

Don't you want too funny with me? Can you'll get down the backup?

All you gotta do his be free wave your freak flag. I get down

to the beat. Don't you putty with me? And you'll get down with

a back cop. All gotta do his be free, wave your freak flag.

Get down. Don't you want to party? Means? Can you get

down the backup ill you gotta juicy free your free flag. I get down

to the beach. Don't you punny with me? Can you get down with

the backup? I'll let you gotta juicy free, pay your free flag.

I get down somewhere everywhere. I don't care. Why a way? Why

you play? Why play? Why play? By place? Why party?

Flave? That is Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon? Yes, from the

then you release? The legend continues, don't it taste good? Very right?

I love it? Yeah, there you go, there you go.

That's great stuff. If you're just joining us, we do have Kenneth Wood

here in the studio. I did notice. Yeah, you dressed differently when

you're than you know, then you dress differently than Kenny true that way.

Yes, yes, there are their own entities. Yes, yes, their

music, their style, their look. I love it absolutely Yeah. Everything

changes. Yeah yeah. Now do you have plans to create more characters?

Oh? Oh yeah, there's never a limitation on anything. How many do

you have? I'm guestimating. Okay, So one that you guys probably haven't

heard yet is I'm a there's another or I don't know. He doesn't have

like a name, per se but it's a band called As Dark as You

and it's like a post metal and yeah where I'm the front man. Yeah.

I think I remember you mentioning that before because I remember saying, oh,

it's a cool name. Yeah, yeah, it's it's uh, that's

another one that's in the the Uh. It's out there, but you know,

people don't maybe not know about it. It's kind of like one of

those bands. It's like a really really dope project. But uh yeah,

if you guys want to check it out as Dark as You look it up

on YouTube. There's a live session of our album light Worker As Dark as

You light Worker Live at the Coop. Go check that out on YouTube.

Very cool. Yeah, now are you? Or is that is? Kenny

Troon playing out a lot these days, a lot of shows I I pop,

you know, pop out, hinter in there, but mostly in the

winter time, I'm not as active. I'm more in the lab. Yeah,

I'm kind of like the last the end of the year, like October

is kind of I'm playing around there, but November December, I'm in the

lab getting ready for the next year's worth of stuff. Right. Does each

character have their own account on YouTube? No, it's all your Kenny True

music. Yeah, I don't want to confuse people too much, but I'm

glad because I get confused easily. But I want to. I'm going to

share in the chat room the link to your YouTube page if people want to

go check you out, not now, later, but save the links.

One more track, Oh, this one too, This one I really like

we know by now, Yeah, there a story behind. That's an interesting

title. I guess I never know what I'm doing when i'm doing it,

you know, But in retrospect, I think what the song is about is

like maybe like the difference between someone who is like playing the game of love

versus someone who's looking for the real thing, and maybe someone has to drop

on someone else, like I know what you're looking for. I'm looking for

something real. We know we're onto you, we know by now, Yeah,

we know your tricks. I'm not looking for love just for tonight.

I'm looking for the real thing. I know that that was the I think

what it's about. When I make these songs, I get in the session

and just go. I don't write anything down, so oh really yeah,

oh cool. I just kind of whatever the music's making me feel. That's

I think it's the most thought comes out exactly. Yeah, I agree,

get lost in the music and just let it go. Yeah see I'm creating

it writes itself. Yes, well, very good. Let's give this a

listen. This is we know by now, This is of course Kenneth Wood

and the Brothers Nylon. There we go. Didn't know you feel this way?

We know? By now? Would you give me to these games?

It's so hard to say no. You know I've been pad be for this.

What you know you be lead to? So don't you know a fine

blow open, breaking knocks and find up? Don't you know no bride nap

by another meaning for someone to say you die? Don't you know all?

By now I'm another out love for just n Don't you know you know by

now? God and nothing? God, it's gonna be me Pa. Don't

you know me know by now? Didn't know you feel this way? We

know by now? Like to think that, Jane, But it's just so

hot to say that, you know me? No? Fine down God,

nothing, breaking knocks and find up? Don't you know no bride now God

nothing got some one to say nor bye? Don't you know? No guy?

Now? But I want you just now go on, it's going,

don't you know? Now we know by now Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon.

Great stuff, great stuff. This. The album was released on Valentine's

tak right. Is it a full album? Ten tracks? Ten tracks?

Excellent? Excellent, very good? And where should people go online to find

it? And all streaming platforms Kenneth Wood and the Brothers Nylon. You can

go to my Instagram page at Kenny truon music. Yeah, it's it's it's

in there, it's out there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so

you're gonna be you know, we talked earlier about you might be, you

might be touring and uh, you might do a tour with those guys in

Florida and you're not really playing out much up here right because it's winter.

Yeah, Like I'm I'm I'm doing the hip hop thing in March eleventh at

the Flask Lounge as now you know, as we're performing at Flask Lounge on

three at three on three eleven in Portland, Main Oh. Very cool,

yes, good. That should be a great show for a Monday, The

Mindes hip Hop Showcase. Excellent. As for everything after that, I kinda

it's open, yeah, kind of like taking in just releasing the new music

now so that when opportunities come, I can pick and choose what's worth it.

Yeah, yeah, very good, very good. That was what I

was gonna say, is I think you would be great at the Mosaic Art

Collective. Oh yeah, we love that. Yeah yeah, they're going to

be actually coming in this afternoon, so we'll definitely put a bug in their

ear. Your name in the word like that, that my painting is hanging

on the wall. That's right. Oh really, first time ever. That's

awesome, first time ever. And I get to go listen to music tonight

while it's there. That's great. Insanely I love that. I love that.

Yeah, you'd love it. It's a smaller venue, so it's a

nice intimate setting all and there's always a theme of art they put up every

month, so there's a music night every month. They usually have a couple

of artists. Oh, we'll talk more about that there. But yeah,

i'd love to get for certain and you could sing the long that I love.

Oh yeah, i'll do that uncensored. I'll do that one. I

love all of your music. I don't want to come off the wrong way,

but I just really love the song. I really appreciate it and I

hate you guys can't listen to it. So you got to go after the

show, go follow that on that link. I've just dropped in the chat

room. So Kenny Tran's YouTube page and you'll see all of the songs we're

talking about in videos, and you have to check out the one that's don't

this one up yes and it's spelled there f v K. Yes. I

noticed that you did that and I thought it was very good. Yeah.

I didn't want to and it made it easier for me to find the video

online. Yes, because that stuck in my mind. It really did.

Yeah, see in the V that was a good that was that's awesome.

Yeah. I've seen certain people do that, but they'll use like the U

up arrow for an A or like a V for the U like something.

I've seen it happen. So it works, my god, let me let

me get on this. It works. Yeah, the censor gods don't take

you on loopholes. Anything else we should know. I mean, it would

be really cool if you guys can follow me on Instagram, join the Patreon.

Everything I do, I you know, mostly I just give out my

music for free. There's a lot of work that goes into it. So

if you guys could support me on the Patreon that would be cool. So

much music for you guys. The lowest tier is five dollars and there's going

to be tons of music on there that you guys can have for the last

twenty years and beyond excellent excellent, Well we are. We are very happy

you were able to be here with us this morning. Love what you're doing.

And uh yeah, the Kenneth Wood stuff is great. Thanks man,

I really appreciate you guys having me on Absolutely. I'm gonna drop a link

to that Instagram account right in the chat room, folks, so you don't

have to find him. I've got him for you. Yeah, thank you,

Jim, you got it. I might play that follower me follow.

I'm getting better about Instagram. I'm old, I think because I get stuck

on Facebook. It's like, oh yeah, there's other things you should go

to. Yes, I was singing about playing I could play it from from

this other computer actually, just for the hell of it, because I love

this song so much. If I if I could feature a Kenny Troon song

this, I don't think we're ever alone Oh yeah, I love this song

and I love the story behind it. So maybe we'll close out the segment

with this. Thank you again, Kenny, Oh, thank you guys.

Just crept in through the door back a black cat in the shadows. Do

you hear that? Do you smell that? I think something's burning. The

blood was spilled, loaves were lost, so it's lurk within these walls.

Something weird going one. I don't think we're ever alone. I don't think

where ever alone. I don't think whereever long. I don't think we're ever

alone. I don't think that we I ever know just fell off. The

ball was dead like that mouse in the corner. Did you see that leg

got in the chap No, I don't want to remember. The blood was

spilled. Loves does spirits lived with themly's balls? Something weird going on.

I don't think we're ever I don't sit whereever love. I don't think whereever.

I don't think where ever a love. I don't think that we are

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