Matt Connarton Unleashed: Kenny Truhn

0:00 On the couch. We've got a great a musical guest today. Kenny Troon is here. Hello. Hey, it's great to be here, guys, Thanks for having me. Yes, yes, we've we've been playing uh, some of your studio tracks we have. If you want to dive in and play something for us and then we'll come back and uh and we'll yeah, great, dying to hear you play something. Yeah, I'm dying to play some raw afternoon music right now, before afternoon, before I'm still getting ready in the day. I didn't even have my coffee yet, So this is going to be a good one.

0:31 Is your voice deeper and this was a discussion on the show earlier, Is your voice deeper in the morning? Uh? Yeah. It takes me to like gigs after four my primetimes, right right right, But you might get some raw goodness right now, because sometimes it's good to get that that early morning voice. Absolutely. Yeah. You want me to play some right now for you guys? Yeah, go for it. Yeah, it's called the cattle, all right, get me off the rye. I don't know which way is up? Boy, don't I say? If I a lie hadn't bleached none bove then twise soul.

1:31 Listen, but don't take out the gattle that doubt and over it. Now I'll walk them to the gallows, the gallows, carbo. Let's me, am me, good knight, cut your steak, breen the knife. See oh oh dot dot ub oh get me. Oh there's thing I can't control my though. I just say, if it's really me, when I don't feel thing, really really real, really south, take by the apple, they say, they say, then you walk me through the God is the God is the god it this means sunthing and bring your body in some frick shine because I'm high high hi loud No again, high high high loud no no again.

3:36 Hi hi hi hi hi hi h very nice. I love that. I love that. If you're just joining us, we have Kenny Troon live in studio here, Jeff w call if I'm saying that correctly, says, I get it, Bud, Jeffy someone you know obviously, Yeah, I love him. That's my boy. Jeff run like thieves in the chatroom, says yeah. Kenny Troon, Oh okay, you like that. Yeah, yeah, you were telling us if you want to say this again on here too, this was interesting. How you know how you met Greg. Yeah, from Run Like Thieves. Greg Santini, the running drummer.

4:27 Yes, I'm from Long Island, New York. Shout out Long Island, New York. So you're you're a real New Yorker. I'm a real New Yorker. I just went to TD Garden last night to see the Knicks lose to Boston. Yeah. So I've seen the Knicks come to Boston twice, two losses in a row. But we'll keep going on that. But Greg, when I move up here, I found this app. It's like Tinder for musicians. It's called Vamper, and I swiped right on. Greg frid on me and we matched and it was great. We didn't go to dinner, but we we played.

5:04 He drove out to Troy, New York actually on my birthday of last year, and we played a show, and then after we played, he met my band members. He hadn't met them before the show. He met them after. Yeah, which is great. But we had a great time. And Greg's demand Greg. Greg fills in for whenever I play shows up here because most of my band members are in New York. Yeah, so like when I do stuff up here, Greg's my go to guy. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a consistent topic on the show about how drummers always play with a lot of different people because drummers are in such high demand, Like, oh yeah, most of the drummers I meet, they're in like ten different bands.

5:47 Oh yeah. And plus there's like so many singer songwriters who need a drummer, right right,

5:54 Like and bass players too. Basically you need bass players. Those are hard to come by to. Oh yeah, sometimes I play base And when I was, yeah, I don't, I don't play anymore. But when I was out and playing in bands, I was in like four bands at one point at one time. Yeah, but when you say you don't play anymore, what does that mean? Like, yeah, I'm just I'm just still not doing I still could, Yeah, I'm just I'm not active. And you didn't hit your head and was like, I don't remember how to play this thing.

6:16 That would be horrible, that would be no. No. But although I haven't I haven't picked up a bass in a long time. But but yeah, but drummer. My theory about drummers is when you you know if you want to be a drummer, when you go to have that conversation with your parents about Yeah, I want to play an instrument, but I don't want to play the drums. Yeah, you know, either the drums or or the tuba is the other one that they're probably going to try to talk you out of. Yeah, unless they've got a good soundproof room right right for dungeon or basement to throw you down there, exactly exactly.

6:44 It's better to hear than making loud noise than doing other bad stuff, you know what I mean. So that's true. At least you know what they're doing. You know now what brought you? What brought you to this area? Because you're you're from Long Island. How long have you been here? My parents have lived up here since maybe two thousand nine or ten, and I stayed in New York. That I didn't go with them, but I would always visit New Hampshire. I loved it up here, and it got to a point where nothing was really happening for me in New York.

7:13 It was very stressful at very expensive. Yeah, jobs weren't good, and I don't know, I come up here. I got a job with Live Nation immediately, being a stage hand and being around the music industry still and actually work also at the SNHU Arena. Shout out to the bull Crow Boys. So I'm still in involved with music now and it lets me do my music as well. On top of that, it's just been great. I met the love of my life up here. Oh excellent. Yeah, so that's pretty great. And I know everything's just been good since I moved up here and I'm living free and I'm not dead yet.

7:54 Yes, so something's gone right. I'm swiping right, swiping right, matchic on Tinder. I guess what other apps we got out there I can use? Well, speaking of Greg, I think he's on the line. Greg. Is that great? Did Greg call it right now? Yeah? This is great? Hello, gentlemen, Hell are you hello? We were we were just talking about you, Hi. Greg. Well, I had to call him in because Kenny's my boy and he was awesome. So that's such a fantastic job. Just now. It was really great, Kenny, dude. Thanks Greg.

8:25 We got a jam soon again, Bob. Absolutely absolutely. But I just want to give a shout out to to you, Kenny, and also to Long Island, New York, where were we both hail from. Kenny and I were also born in the same hospital, same hospital. That's okay. I'm glad you brought that up because I was like, we're from the same are no with the same hospital. Yeah, it gets deeper, it gets even deeper. Wow. Well very cool, very cool. Yeah. So I just want to say I just want to say hello and shout out. And also I just wanted to give you guys a little heads up for our show.

9:01 We're actually doing a contest. You know, Dan is the singer and Run Like Fieves. He is sponsored by Breed Love Guitar and We're giving away a guitar and I'm putting it out all over social media on our YouTube channel and basically what we're doing is asking people to cover acoustically one of our songs and post it and then whoever we think is the coolest and the best, we'll get a guitar. Wow. And we're going to announce the winner at our show January seventh, which I know you guys, Jen and Matt are going to go to and hopefully Kenny's going to go to too.

9:38 Well, I'm gonna win that guitar. Bro, You're you're totally eligible to do it,

9:52 but anyone's eligible, even Jenny. I think Jenny could do it too. I know that's a great that's a great idea though, that's a great concept. I like that a lot. That's a cool, cool idea there. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be cool to get anyway. I just wanted to say thanks guys, and thanks again for having us on the other week and Kenny rock it out, buddy, thanks Bob, thanks for calling in. All right, Greg, and we will see you on January seventh, Yes, absolutely, six o'clock. All right, we'll be there, looking forward to it, all right, buddy thinks all right, you got it?

10:24 Bye bye, all right. The Great Greg Santini, also known as the running Drummer, Yes from the man likes to run from run like thieves. Yeah yeah, I mean if you're a drummer, you gotta kind of have that endurance anyway. Yeah. True, you're flailing and the whole hour set or whatever long and play. Oh yeah absolutely. Yah. It's the most physical instrument because you're using all your limbs. And I'm always impressed when I see singing drummers, which you don't see a lot, at least not on lead vot. I see a lot of that, But I love a good singing drummer.

10:52 I think a good example of a singing drummer turned lead singer and turn their back on drums is the guy from Three Doors Down. Did you know that he drummed on the first record? Yeah? I didn't. I just assumed he still was. I forget his name. I think it's Brad Arnold. Okay, I think so. But he was the drummer. But then when they blew up, he was like, I don't play drums anymore. I'm this singer. Oh I didn't know that. I always assumed he was still playing drums. Yeah, no, he wants to be out front. Yeah.

11:20 I actually did him stagehand for their gig at Meadowbrook and he was, yeah, he's he's just the front guy. Now. He's been the front guy for a while. He abandoned that a while ago. Oh okay, but yeah with the little Madonna mike. Yeah, I don't know why I called the Madonna mike, but you know, but yeah, I want to see some drummers that singing, So Greg, start your start singingmore. All right, if you're still listening, Even in bands that do have singing drummers, a lot of the time, it's only like part like some songs they might sing on like they'll split the lead singer.

11:52 Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, I'm trying to think of a band where see I thought Three Doors Down, I didn't realize he had a band in the drums. I'm trying to think of a band where they have a singing drummer who sings everything everything. Do you know Anderson? He's a great artist who him and the Free Nationals. He drums, rap, sings, He's incredible. Yeah, he's like if you see his tiny desk concert, he's just like in the middle, like cutting it up, playing the drums flawlessly and just effortlessly.

12:21 Oh he's really good. And if you want to go into like heavier drummers that do the Madonna Mike seven Dust, do you remember that band Morgan would do the like and had the Madonna mic on? Yeah, I like that. I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head. But yeah, they're out there, and if you're out there, hit up Matt, hit up me, let's talk about it. Call us in this band's like, oh yeah, but was he another one that just I'm done? So I need to be sort of sort of because if you see the Eagles live.

12:59 He'll play drums on some things, but then he'll come up front for others or and somebody else jumps the band. But he but but he's another one who didn't sing on everything, right Yeah. Yeah, like I can't. I can't think of an example where the drummer is the leads full time. Yeah. Yeah, like in Genesis, Phil Collins, he would, you know, he would come up front, you know, he he'd sing, he'd play drums on a few things, but he'd come up front, you know, and then he was Genesis one. Uh, Gabes left. Yeah, and I love Peter Gabriel.

13:34 He's like one of my favorites. Yeah. You, by the way, so I didn't know this about you until somebody mentioned it in the chat room that you play multiple instruments, right yeah, I play drums, bass, guitar, and piano, wow, sing rap? I may be. I'm a producer. Yeah, I produce and engineer and mix all my records. Oh yeah, oh wow. I went to audio school in two thousand and four in New York City. Learned everything I need to learn, and uh, just so no one can tell me what to like what you do. Like I think I grew up in a in an era where I was just like a singer in a band for a while, people trying to tell me what to do, how to dress, signing a label with Capitol Records twenty one, and just dealing with all the behind the scenes stuff like people telling you, oh, you got to do this, you got to write songs like this, you got to do It's like I learned everything myself just so I could make my own world, make my own universe, because I don't want to play in your world, dude, Like you know what I mean.

14:44 And I honed my craft for about over twenty years now, so like I love it, and we're fortunate to live in a time where you can really do that, you know, Like now it's even better for a situation like that, I own all my stuff. No one owns anything that's excellent. Yeah, I don't like because that's the thing with these like these deals, when you sign these deals, they're they're covering your recording costs, so all this stuffs, and I'm like taking a huge chunk of that away where it's just like you want to just pay for marketing or something.

15:16 I don't know, right, but even then, like Facebook ads these days, Instagram ads, I have like thirteen hundred followers, but my story only gets like seventy people seeing it. Yeah, you know what I mean. They want you to pay money right right. It's this whole thing where it's like the Wow Wild West where you got to figure out like new ways to do things. I kind of like it. Yeah, yeah, it's fresh and absolutely it's really cool. Evan Hilsinger. Yeah, chat room says Kenny Troon is the greatest. Evan's my longest running band member, best friend from high school.

15:53 We were in a man together, Oh wow, yeah, where he played guitar, I was singing, and then it now he's my bass player and I play guitar and say, it's kind of dope. Now is he back in New York or that he's in New York he's listening to New York right now, or he could it's the weekend. He could be at his house in the Poconos. So but but the so the how often do you play with the band? Because logistically it must be a little bit of a challenge. Uh, it is. But we're at a point where we like know each other very well, like if we get like a little like like if I travel to them and we and we're able to get a little run through for an hour or two before a show.

16:31 That's good. Sometimes we don't, but sometimes those shows are the best shows because everyone's just everyone practices by listening what songs are we going to do? Here are the songs? And I'll be like, all right, we'll just show up and we'll leave it there. Yeah, because sometimes when you practice too much, you're like, you like peak already before you even get there. You're like, oh, you do it great at the practice like four times, and then you go to the show and it's not It's almost like saving that inner g to just like, no, that totally, that totally makes sense, firmly believe in that.

17:05 I like it loose, yeah, but enough where there's a format throughout the show. Yeah, makes it makes it more exciting. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah, do you want to do you want to play another song? I'm dying to hear another song.

17:21 Okay, I could play a new one that I just wrote with my uh lovely girlfriend's kids. Now new new as in no one, no one knows this song really, oh, very nice. We like the premiere on the radio, which they'll probably love Oh, we love it too. We love the world radio premiere. Beatrix and Walter Saint Pierre helped me write this song. They're in uh second and fourth grade? Oh no kidding, yes,

17:51 So I'll try this one for them, all right, Very nice little rock turned into human. He ate some grats and Guriel tall, but then he went and had himself some cheese its. He thought, now, well that is delicious. And they drove off and the sunset on an elephant. And they drove off to the sunset on an elephant. Had a fante, had a fante, had a fiante, had a fante. They drove into the sunset A man and the panda. They showed up to the party with some nachos and doritos and freedom, and they went to the nick game, but they lost to the Celtics.

19:05 But it was okay because we had a great time. And we drove off to the sunset on an elephant. And we drove off into the sunset on an elephant. They had a fante, had a fante, had a funte and they drove off into the sunset on an elephant. Very nice. What is it called elephant? I believe I didn't write those lyrics. They were written by them. The lyrics are relatable to me because I also enjoyed cheese its yes, and think about being a rock. You're a rock and then you just exploded into a human. You eat grass, you grow tall, but then you find cheesus and you're like, wow, this is way different than grass.

20:00 H Yes, it sounds ever to relate to it. I feel it could be my next hit. I would love to send them to trade schools with the money from that, right, you know, not college. We don't want to send them to college and have them in debt for like fifty grand. We just want maybe a ten thousand dollars debt and a trade where they can make money. You know. There you go. I digress. If you're just joining us, Kenny Troon is here with us, alive in studio. Benjamin Blanger in the chatroom says, get it, Oh, Benny, that's awesome, and Jay Fat is asking in the chatroom have you ever considered the possibility of extending the length of your beard?

20:44 To be honest, my beard has been huge before. Yeah, Covets beard. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's a beard guy. It's been really big. Yeah. I actually cut my hair hair I'll show you my hair short right now. But yeah, my hair was super long. Oh really, my beard was really Yeah. I let it go at the pandemic. It was like, I'm not going to cut it till this is over. And then it didn't end right, But uh, two weeks. I try to look I try to look a little more presentable these days. But yeah, tell him, I feel his I feel him on the beard.

21:22 I loved my beard. He has a large beard. Yeah, yeah, I could hide snacks in there for later. It was real.

21:30 It was a flavor saver. By the way. By the way, I'm curious working at the Snow. Uh do you know Michael Martino also known as Texas Mike. Maybe if he works, what does he do at the snow? I forget what he does there exactly. I mean he's there, he's there for events. You remember what something to do with concessions. Maybe, yeah, you may not have. You may not have encountered him. Probably maybe I've seen him like around. Yeah, definitely. Melanie said, uh yeah, right, all guys, lie and say, you know, regarding the beard, say it was huge.

22:07 I swear it was. You'll find some Google image somewhere of it. We should play another studio track. We've already played a couple of them earlier in the show, but I'm curious to Uh, let's see, is there we've got that there's a song that you sent me that's from a live show. Yeah, and then there's another studio track, I'll let You, I'll let you. The other studio track is the single and video I've been promoting called I Don't Think We're Ever Alone. Oh, we should play that one then, yeah, yeah, let's do that.

22:41 And uh yeah, this is a great song, and can you tell us about it? Is there a story behind it? Uh? Yeah. During the pandemic, I was living in an apartment that turns into a squat because my landlord we got served papers right before the pandemic happened where he hadn't been paying taxes on the house for years. Oh, and they were gonna take it, and they were like, you guys shouldn't pay him anymore because like you know what I mean. So we were like okay, But then the pandemic happened and we were just you know, the power went out, and then I had this steal power from the public library next door and the house next door, and then it was a whole thing.

23:29 Wow. But I ended up getting out of there and finding a new place. But the place I moved into a week or two before, someone had overdosed in the house and they were trying to get someone else to move in. Yeah, and they didn't tell me that. So I was dealing with all weird spirits in the house that I moved in. So the song has a lot to do with the weirdness that was occurring at the new place that I moved into, where someone had just recently died in the house. What kind of weirdness was currently okay?

24:01 So randomly I was on the deck and I was I think I was smoking a cigarette or something, and all of a sudden, there's a huge fire on the on the deck, Like a fire just happened. Oh my god, I out of nowhere. I had to put it out. And then a roommate of mine came out the bathroom with like blood on him and he wasn't bleeding, it wasn't his blood. Oh my god. So a lot of things were happening, yeah, and uh jeez, and yeah, so I feel like I don't think we're ever alone, was kind of I'm like, yeah, maybe, like even if we pass on, like we're still here and like just even if you feel like there's no one physically there with you, something's up interesting.

24:46 All right, Well, let's give this a listen. Oh, by the way, run like Thieves in the chat Room says, this song is one of my favorite Kenny Truan's songs. Nice and Melanie says, why were they weird spirits? That sounds super judgmental. Well, you know when there's blood and fire. Yeah, if they were cooking me like breakfast, and like you know, doing other things for me, like doing my laundry, I'd be like, this ghost is cool, right, A helpful ghost is nice. You know. That's the kind of ghost when something strange was the foot at the circle cave, so to speak, You know what I mean.

25:21 It'd be nice if you could choose your ghost. Yeah you can't, You definitely can't. Well, let's give this a listen. So this is Kenny Troon and this is called I don't think we're ever alone here on Matt Connorton unleashed, just crept in through the door like a black cat in the shadow. Do you hear that? You smell that? I think something's burning? The blood was spelled last we lost spelling slurk with Avery's walls. Something weird going doing. I don't think we're ever alone, and I don't think where ever.

26:33 I don't think where ever. I don't think we're never alone. I don't think that we I ever know just fell off. The ball was dead like like that now's in the corner. Did you see that leg got in the track? No, I don't want to remember the blood spells that does spirits lip with Fairy's walls. Something with going on. I don't think we're ever lone.

27:42 I'm sick where ever love now sick whereever. I don't think man ever alone.

28:00 I don't think that we I have a seen I don't think that we I have a think that we I. I don't think that we I think that we are ever alone. Oh that is cool, and that does have a spooky vibe. That is, I don't think we're ever alone. The Great Kenny Troon is here with us live in studio. The Great Kenny's true. I like the sound of that. Thank you man. Absolutely. By the way, UH run like thieves in the chat room, says Greg from r LD says that as a retired uh F d N why fire Marshal Kenny's cigarette started that fire case?

29:03 I swear though, because I was on the other side of the deck and I was like thinking, did I like arkle Dan? I do? I had, but like, literally, uh, what I I think happened? I want to clarify to the FDN Y alumni out there, Yes, that it was a piece of broken gla mirror on the ground. Son was hitting the mirror reflect. I swear this is what I came up with. If it wasn't a weird ghost or something. But I was like, and there were like dried leaves hit like hitting the I don't know, I'm trying. Anything's possible.

29:45 Greg, Can you run that through your FDN Y machine tell me if that's accurate or that's the thing that could happen. And this is very nice. Nicole Saint Pierre in the chat room says, the kids are feeling very famous after hearing you play there. Yes, that's amazing. Hi, Bob's that's very nice, very nice. That's great. They they they they think I'm famous. It's weird. Well you are now them. Yeah, you get the Matt Connorton unleashed bump. Yeah. When we went to when we went to the Celtics game, Little Walt was like, oh, but can we get sit on the floor.

30:26 Aren't you famous? I'm like, oh, maybe one day their degrees shout out to them. I'm happy they're listening. And who played a slide on that song you mentioned My dude, Josh Honigman playing mean brass slide on that last song. Is he in your band or he is? Yeah, he's my man. We have like a usual suspects list in my band. Yeah, there's some altering parts, like Greg will join the band for like New Hampshire dates when I'm not in New York, you know, stuff like that. We have like some times Maggie will come in and play the sacks whenever we get Maggie and Maggie had a kid, so Maggie is off for there a little bit.

31:07 Yeah, like it changes. So we have Josh Hanigman right now on guitar and keys, Chris Pachanka on guitar, Evan Hilsinger on bass, and me on guitar and singing, and then drummers or you know, drummers are hard to come by. Exactly exactly what was your because you play multiple instruments, what was your first instrument. My first instrument was bass because I wanted to join Evan's band. Oh yeah, I didn't know how to play. I just loved music and I wanted to be in the band. And it was so cool that they had a band.

31:43 Yeah, in ninth grade, So okay, I wanted to do it. That's what got you started. Yeah, well, actually I think I started maybe a little before that, where I borrowed my friend's bass to play in like a hardcore band. Oh really yeah, who we were called Savagery. I can't forget this. Shout out to Nick Voormont, Chris Suarez and Vinnie Roseboom. But we we did that, and then I seriously did a band with Evan where I was playing bass. Yeah. Then I moved into the singer spot because we didn't have a singer, or we did have a singer, but he didn't want to sing or he was taking too long on doing the singing when it't sing in front of us, so we're like, oh, well that's a problem.

32:23 Yeah, and then we we we did. Me and Evan did a a little demo of a song idea where we had you know, those old laptop mics from that were just on the computer. Oh yes, So he was in the room while I was down the hall singing loud and it was like the same volume as it was just ridiculous. But we did a demo like that where I sang and that was like kind of when I was like, I think I'm going to be the singer. Interesting. So that's that's how that worked out. Did you take any vocal lessons or are you self taught?

32:55 I did when I had a record deal. The labor got me a guy Adrian Holtz, which I love that man. I don't know where he is this day, but it was in the Lower East Side Manhattan where I would go see him. Uh. The label Legg was like, we need you to have a better voice, and you need to know you know, they're putting money into you. They want you to have that. But basically the like I don't know his his uh, his studying with him was pretty good. It was like I haven't done it since, but it was my the training.

33:33 I needed things I already knew and felt but didn't really know how to like, I don't know, put him in a box and understand them, yeah, so to speak. But I did have some vocal training okay, okay, like twenty one. Yeah. Yeah, We've got Kenny Truan here. If you have any questions or anything at all for Kenny six O three two five six seven, The studio line is open six three two five six seven. Can you tell talk more about your your experience with being signed to a label, because well, for one thing, I'm a music industry nerd and we talk about we talk about music industry stuff a lot on you on the show, and you know, and that's kind of a lot of our listener bas is made up of people who either have experience in that or are active in the music industry in some way.

34:16 And I'm curious here. I mean, it sounds like it it sounds like it ended with you feeling like you wanted to be able to do everything yourself and be really independent. But I'm curious, you know, pretty pretty traumatic stuff. I guess for me, it's like my PTSD stuff. No, Ki, I was like twenty yeah, because it's like the whole process of getting a deal was it was so weird. It was like it was almost like you find you found a Craigslist ad for a producer looking for a hot new band, and this is like oh, five, two and five.

34:50 So we get a producer and a manager combo from Craigslist. Producer manager combo, and and they're like kind of like grooming us in a way of like making us look a certain way and recording us. Wait, just so I'm clear. So this combo they were advertising in Craigslist. I don't the drummer found it. I didn't find this at the time, but like this is how it happened, like they so we got that. We worked with them for like a pretty long time. Like we we got an investor, so they I guess the manager and producer would record a demo for us, get an investor to pay for it, and then the manager used his contacts to shop it and it and it worked.

35:37 We had Hollywood Records come out to see us, took us to dinner after we played the Continental in New York City. That was great. My mom got a whole school bus to bring everyone to the city from Long Island, so we packed the place out. Cool. Yeah, we knew what we you know, we're dealing with. We're having someone come see us and all that. Yeah, you know, eventually, you know, some some of the records, the labels were what were okay, and I got I hited off with the dude from Hollywood Records, Jason Jordan a lot, and uh we didn't end up going with him.

36:15 I think Breaking Benjamin was with him at the time, Hollywood Records, and uh we ended up getting flown out to California to meet with Jamie Feldman and Andy Slater for Capitol Records. So we we had a audition for the Whull label. So it was a cool moment for me and the and the guys in the band at that time because we we show and proved like the whole labels like let's make a record. We were just like, wow, is this crazy? Like I was the front man then. So when we did the performance, iffed off the stage, got in their faces, was doing like you know what I mean.

36:53 Today, I felt like it was a moment in time I'll never forget, you know what I mean. It was really great. Went to the Rainbow Room after LA where let's all go over twenty one. But and then then comes in the other stuff where everyone now in the band thinks they know how to write the hit. I'm just the singer, even though I played guitar and wrote a song like I only wrote like one or two songs where they let me. Okay, the band because the band all things, they knew how to do everything. Yeah, they they swamped me an auto tune.

37:26 I hate auto tune. There's just like things that were just really hard to deal with. Yeah, and then after a while it just was really I couldn't express myself the way I wanted. I was odd man out on little tours we did where like I wasn't even being friends with them. Really we weren't getting along. Oh wow. It was just a lot of things. And I actually and for that to happen so early and all this, you know, yeah, I habashed it. I left. Wow, I walked away from it because it wasn't right. It didn't feel right, and I wasn't there was like telling me what to where, like the labels like tell me where these like leather pants and like just like all this stuff where I'm just like they were riding the wave of like the emo wave and five six sure yeah seven, And I'm not necessarily I'm from there where a lot of that music came to, you know, get some notoriety, right, But like I always felt it was a little different, and I don't know, it gives me a lot of gave me a lot of grief for a lot of years because you want that as an artist, you want to be on a label you wanted.

38:39 But then it's not cracked up to all, you know what I mean? And I you know, we're okay on terms now, Like with that band, we were all young. We didn't know what the hell was going on. We were all needed to grow and learn, and it was just, uh, I don't know, because I'm always trying to make it back to that mountain, but that mountain isn't where I want to go but to some relevance. I want to get my music out to the masses. But it's weird in these times. You feel like when you post stuff, you're a just in the clutter of everyone else's stuff where it'll get overlooked.

39:21 Or you have to pay to play. You gotta If you don't have the money, it won't talk for you, you know what I mean. So it's just interesting to me. But that that whole dealing with the major label was pretty interesting time. When you walked away, I mean, did did they try to get you to stay? Did the label put any pressure on you to stay or how did how did know? Because we were signed to the producer and manager who signed to the You know what I'm saying, You're like not even You're like the puppet in that aspect.

39:56 Then like you don't control anything. Yeah, you know what I mean means so it becomes like I don't even know at this point, but wow, yeah did the band try to continue without you? Dude? They did, okay? And I felt like they used all the same contexts that they had and I don't care because I didn't want to be involved anymore. They went on, they did a band for a while and now they they're not a band like most bands. They're a band till you're not a band, right, But I've never stopped. I will say this.

40:30 I've been continuing my journey. It's my journey, so it's different from everyone else's different from theirs, and I kind of like where I've gone. I've gone to weird places. I do. We haven't even touched upon this. But I have different aliases and characters in different genres and music that I do. Okay, I have an R and B character named Kenneth Wood. Oh yes, I found Kenneth Wood online. See that's me. Okay, you didn't know because I was wearing glasses. I was a little more suave looking. Yeah.

40:57 Yeah. But I also have a rap alias Snotty Nose, and I'm in a metal post metal band called as Dark as You. Oh that's a cool wow, cool man. Yeah. Like I built like my own world of genres and music. Like it's my own label of my own call that weird or narcissistic or anything, but I'm it's pretty. It's my world that I created. I really enjoy it. And that's when I put my life's passion and yeah, yeah do they Is there sort of a hierarchy in your mind in terms of in terms of priorities. I keep it loose.

41:33 Yeah, I know when it's time to do it's weird. I know when it's time to like go into one of the other characters yea and do or like you know, because I also like to switch it up in music because it keeps it fun that way. So I love it. I love doing it. Yeah, and I have total control of my own stuff. So really good, very cool. Yeah, if you're just joining us, Kenny Truoness here, Melanie in the chatroom does have a question. She says, are you still in the haunted apartment? But obviously no, that was in New York, back in New York.

42:06 That was in Patchhog, New York. I don't know if you guys know where Patchhog is, patch Hoog, but yeah, a fun fact, Billy Idol lived in Patchhog when he came from uh I think England. Oh really yeah, and he moved to Long Island in patch how very random fact. All right, do you want to well, we have some time left. Do you want to play another live song for us? Yeah, let's see what we got here? We'd love to hear more live again. If you're just joining us. We have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program.

42:42 We'll get that other mic up there. There we go. Okay, this song is called mark my words? All right, how many days O rental week? If you could neverly he nor how we'll I ever get the Sunday school long tie Lolla knows it. The bus stops right outside of my house. It takes me out in Baya. Well, I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my life just five I'm lie, come to think of it. Mark my words, mark your calendar? Well, the day is the day we believe in morejs, miracle, mon ands, miracles, Mark my words, mark your calendar.

43:52 Well, the day is the day we believe in monanjis miracle.

44:01 How many people do we meet in our short existence? Well, our last count about thirty eight sum odd years. And go now I know it's at the bus stops right outside my house. Takes me out of bow. Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my life. Just fine, I'm alive. Come to take the thing. Mark my words in market calendar. Well, the day is the day. We believe in bols, miracles, bonnes mimicles. Mark my words and mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day we believe. Well, we believe, we believe.

45:01 How will I even get to Sunday school on time? If I never sleep a night? If I never sleep, how will I even get to Sunday school on time? Time? Time? Who? Mark my birds? Who mark your calendar? All? The day is the day we believe in chans, miracle, yes, miracles, Mark my birds and mark your calendar.

45:49 All. The day is the day. Today's the day? Oh my god, what a great song. Thank you? I love that. That's all. I really appreciate it. What's the name of that again, that song is called mark my Words? Okay, now is that is that out? Is that available? That's on my first solo album, No Longer Scared, which is out on all platforms? Wow? Yeah yeah really really one of the first song not first, but like one of the earlier songs I've written, okay, like twenty two thousand and nine, maybe I wrote it? Oh no kidding?

46:30 Yeah, yeah, wow that is That is really good? Thank you man, that is really good. I really appreciate it. Absolutely absolutely. We have Kenny Truon with us alive in studio. Is everything else? Like, are these as you described at, these different characters they have in music as? Are they all easy to find online for people who want to explore they are on all the platforms? Yeah? Yeah, it's uh if you go to my Instagram Kenny Truon music, Yeah, the link tree has everything so you can like it's like a treasure trove of like what is this?

47:05 Is this the same person? Like? So it's kind of like I don't know, I want people to find my music that way and just like keep digging and me like wait, what is it? Right? Right? So you found it? I found the leak tree and I have been sharing it. Yes, yes, thank you, Yeah, I have. I just came out with I did a merch drop with Tea Public. I don't know if you guys heard of that website, but I got a lot of cool merch on my link tree that I just came out with. This is one of them. This is my album cover to most of the songs you played on the radio today.

47:38 Okay, It's called Mangastine. Okay, nice and uh yeah, So if you guys want to check out Mangstine, most of the songs that Matt played today, we're on that album Outstanding. Yeah, we're going into in a couple of minutes, we're going to close out with I've got my thumb out this live Now. Where was this recorded? This was recorded at my Drummers recording studio at the Coop Live at the Coop Studios in Irvington, New York. Oh okay, And we did it on my birthday. I drove down to New York for my friend Sue's wedding shout at Sue and Danielle, and then the next day we went to Irvington and I hired a videographer and we did a live in studio thing, and this song is actually improvised, like oh no kidding.

48:24 We got in the room and did it. We were starting to do it, and then I was like, wait, let's wait till the cameras on and then let's really do it, because you don't want to give it a waste of energy, you know what I mean? Right of course, So once we caught ourselves, we waited till the camera I was done, and then we like started into that idea we did. And what you're about to hear is that all improvised? Excellent, excellent, And before we do that too? Where should people go online? Where's the best place to go for people to keep up with everything that you're doing.

48:53 I would on Facebook Kenny Troon or Instagram Kenny Truon music. That's the two most import and hubs to find all my music YouTube just look up Kenny Truon. I got a ton of I got a channel on there, a ton of videos and uh yeah, and you have an unusual last name, so it's easy to find you. Yeah t r u h N yes, yes, which Matt has successfully said my name the whole time without knowing, which is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was asking listeners won't know this, but yeah, I was asking you off the earlier, saying your last name, trust, and it turned turned out I got it right.

49:26 Yeah. I was very happy about it. Actually was talking about it this morning before we leaugh. I hope I'm saying that. I mean, you don't want to say it wrong. Like a bunch of times, I'm like, oh man, right, right, right, like eight times before. Does anybody ever misspell it? Like have you ever seen it misspelled like on a poster for a show or something. Yes, I've seen, because if they've heard my name and they try to write it, I've seen it written t r u n E. Oh really yeah, because they're like truan like prune right, and this is Kenny true Kenny.

50:00 Thank you again. So thank you guys for having me absolutely absolutely and check this out and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later. Bye, everybody, nasty So well the first don't see that. I got my thumb out and just suniverse. Yeah, I don't know where I'm going. I'm sure I'll get that fast shape and sound safe and sound with what thumb out in a universe in a universe Gillow divers Universe it lost your unicorn

51:47 with about thumb out come out this supern that's quare, that's somewhere that diverse way. Don't see that. I got my thumb now, I got my thumb. Now see the verbs don't shoot. Back me up, make me up, beck me up, beg me up, beck me up, beck me up, back me up, back me up, back me up, deck me up, back me up, back me up, jack me up, back me up, back me up.