Matt Connarton Unleashed: Lone Wolf James

0:26 Speaker 1: Said the story walking.

0:29 Speaker 2: To someone who kids.

0:33 Speaker 3: Save.

0:33 Speaker 1: You're preaching.

0:36 Speaker 2: Your rock adoptees.

0:42 Speaker 4: You come any way to say, Maybe I'm not the work you need to say, so keep my man. I'm never change.

1:05 Speaker 2: From cradle.

1:20 Speaker 1: On your knees.

1:22 Speaker 4: It's nothing to me. So see you're heaven and hell.

1:29 Speaker 2: For the wishing.

1:30 Speaker 4: Well you you know my time?

1:40 Speaker 3: Well well.

1:47 Speaker 4: The world you need to say, so keep you blind man. I'm never change from cradle.

2:03 Speaker 3: Back back.

2:28 Speaker 4: Back, no way, said Mane. Not the world you need to say, he laughing down. The change.

4:00 Speaker 2: From cradle.

4:21 Speaker 1: That is cradle to grave. The band is Lone Wolf James. And we have Lone Wolf James here with us in studio, and she's not on a mic, but Echo Ray is here. She was on the show with us recently and first introduced us to the band well technically, although well she brought that track. But and we will play some more from Lone Wolf James later in the show. But Jenny and I had seen Lone Wolf James live and I don't know if you guys realize this, but we'll talk about it. And we really enjoyed your set. But let's get into it.

4:50 Speaker 1: So we've got the guys here Gary James, of course, lone Wolf James yourself. How are you, sir, Welcome to the show.

4:56 Speaker 2: Good, thank you for having me.

4:58 Speaker 1: And you are you singing? And you play guitar? Correct?

5:01 Speaker 5: Yes?

5:01 Speaker 1: Okay? And what do uh? We'll get actually here, let's start with you over here in the corner, sir. Tell us what you do and I'm sorry, tell us who you are rather than what you do in the band. My name is Jeff Holmes from the bass player and do backup vocals, all right, Jeff, welcome and you, sir.

5:16 Speaker 6: My name's Tim Evans, and I'm the lead guitarist.

5:19 Speaker 1: Lead guitarist. Okay, and you sir, oh, Sherman, I can't hear you, and I apologize. Let me you know what, I got to really crank that up here. All right, let's trade that again. There we go.

5:29 Speaker 7: I'm Sherman Wilson and I'm the drummer.

5:31 Speaker 1: All right, Sorry, Sherman, you're in you're in the microphone that we don't we'll use that one if we need an extra mic. And but we did get it plugged in, so we got that much figured out.

5:40 Speaker 2: Always the drummer, it's always the drummer.

5:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, so, guys, welcome to the show. Jenny and I saw you live at Swarmyfest. Oh okay, yep, yep, that was and and I'll tell you I so, I had not heard Lone Wolf James prior to that, and I saw you on the schedule because we were there. We were there as a sponsors and representing the radio show. And I remember saying to Jenny after or during your set, I said, they sound like a band named Lone Wolf James, Like like you sounded like I expected you to sound based on the name. And please take that as a compliment because I think the name is really cool and I really like your sound.

6:26 Speaker 1: But yeah, so have you guys been around a while? Has the band been around for a long time? That's my impression that I actually I started it years ago and I was like playing acoustic on a stool doing open mic. Oh really yeah yeah, And that's how it all started.

6:41 Speaker 8: I had left the band and the whole I think Echo told you this before, but when I left the band, I was leaving all the crap behind.

6:49 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

6:49 Speaker 8: And the guy went, well, there goes Lone Wolf, and I was like, I'm going to use that. Oh yeah, So I use that my last name, James. I put them together and there was the lone Wolf James. Yeah, and the fact that I'm Partneredive American kind of fit into so I was like, all right, I'm gonna use that. But yeah, So I started it then, and there's been you know, over over the years, you add people and you do this and that. But I was I was trying to find like the right lineup because I was getting to the point where the band is starting to go from regional crossing into the national border, and we'll get.

7:18 Speaker 2: Into that, you know.

7:19 Speaker 8: But as I did it, it was just like, you know, this is this is not the lineup that is gonna do it. So we kind of like just been with me eleven years. So he's like my right hand guy, and and we've all I've known Tim. We've known each other since we were fourteen, you know what I mean.

7:35 Speaker 2: So we were in our very.

7:36 Speaker 8: First band together. I was a drummer back then. Yeah, so it all kind of came together, you know. I would would fight and phone.

7:44 Speaker 2: Calls, you know what I mean, and all kind of felt.

7:46 Speaker 8: Jeff and Sherman had gone and tried out for the same band at one time, and then they were both like and nope, but they were friends. And then when I told Jeff that I was going to have Sherman come in audition, He's like, hire that guy, you know and whatever. So it was just like it was kind of it was faded. Yeah, but this particular lineup now has been You've been a couple of years now, right, and uh, we've were's like gone from the local to the regional and now we're tipping our hat into the national.

8:15 Speaker 8: We're playing with all national bands. Yeah yeah, because of certain deals and connections and stuff.

8:21 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So is the band I mean, are you the only original member technically.

8:26 Speaker 2: Or yes, from the original a yeah, because it started with me. Yeah, and like my.

8:31 Speaker 8: First record, my first two first records were acoustic and I added like drums and stuff to it. But I mean, the first couple of EPs are sold out, so that one that you played cradle off of is actually my was like the second full album, and that's the only one still available really other other than you know, I have like a few of the one before that. But but we've I've been in the studio for the last couple of years now recording this new EP with the guy from that works for Sony and Capital and.

8:58 Speaker 1: Oh very nice.

8:59 Speaker 8: And you know everybody has except for Sherman because it happened right before he joined the band. But yeah, but so he's the only one doesn't have to get yelled at in the studio, right, But other than that, yeah, I mean it all everybody here is.

9:13 Speaker 2: The long Wold James.

9:14 Speaker 8: Well, everybody brings something to the table, but it's it's like you have to have the head of the the the artpus so of course just kind of that, but yeah, I have to do the like the business part of it too. Yeah, you know, I take care of like the contracts and that kind of stuff. And then as far as like the songwriting goes. You know, I come up with an idea and I go, I like this, and I sometimes I just go to his house and say, hey, this is what I got. Yeah, and he'll go, let's do this or whatever, you know, or I just bring it to the table and go, okay, this is like here's the pizza dough at the topping right right, And everybody kind of puts in their stuff and then you know, you get ideas as it goes.

9:52 Speaker 1: But you know, is the original material that you did. Is that available online?

9:56 Speaker 3: Some of it?

9:57 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you had to like have been around.

10:00 Speaker 8: I released the first EP in two thousand, okay, so it was twenty five years ago.

10:05 Speaker 2: I mean, I was just just coming out, just you know, just getting out of like.

10:09 Speaker 8: The cover band situation and a couple of a couple of local bands that weren't doing anything but garage, you know, local maybe you know, once in a while a rock pile or something, sure, sure, but other than that, it was and I just wanted to get serious.

10:22 Speaker 2: And they were all about drugs and and I was just like, I'm done with this, you know. And and that's why he was.

10:27 Speaker 8: He was trying to chafe me by saying, oh, that goes lone Wolf, like I'm gonna go off of my and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna use that.

10:33 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's pretty cool, you know that. You know, somebody threw that at you, trying to insult you, and you you took that and said, oh yeah.

10:41 Speaker 8: And now they're going, oh Jesus, guys are playing with this guys and these guys and he's really.

10:45 Speaker 2: And you know, and the like, yeah, who's laughing now?

10:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

10:48 Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's that's really the way, and it's it's it's about the hard work that you put in and stuff, and it's about the loyalty too, you know, Like these guys have played some I don't know, I'm surprised they didn't and all you crazy, right, you know, but some of the places that we've done and some of the things. Sherman's first gig with us was in this It was a it was a biker fast thing, but it was in somebody's yard and it was all it rained so bad, it was like mudfest two thousand and nine.

11:17 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. And he pulled in.

11:19 Speaker 8: I'm thinking, this kid is never coming back. Yeah, you know, and whatever and uh and we you know, we go from those to what we're doing now. Yeah, yeah, you know, very cool.

11:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw pictures that you mentioned Ace Frehley, and I saw pictures of you guys online with Ace. Kiss is my favorite band, So I saw those. I was like, oh, that's pretty cool.

11:37 Speaker 2: He was awesome, was he?

11:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard I've heard yeah, day to attend, Who've Jeff? Yeah you know Jeff, Yeah, oh yeah, those guys are great and uh yeah they played with a set the Aura, I think in Portland, but I heard that Ace went on. I haven't seen Ace solo live for a very long time, but I've heard they went on that He went on very very late really that night. Yeah, I know, I guess it's kind of but your experience with him was positive.

12:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the funny thing is, and this, I love days to attend. They're great guys.

12:07 Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

12:07 Speaker 8: We were supposed to play that show and I had prior engagement, so I turned it down. And then I found out that they got the opening slots. I was like, oh great, Yeah, that's great for them. And the manager of Ace called my agent and came back and said, can they play the Blue Ocean since they can't.

12:24 Speaker 1: Do the Ore?

12:25 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I was like, yeah, we can do that. But no, we didn't have any any any at all.

12:29 Speaker 8: In fact, that's you know, we had played with some other nationals, big nationals before that, and we didn't really get them. With the exception of like a couple, we didn't really get to meet anybody, all kind of hid away in the so I never went into it thinking we were going to meet Ace, you know. And we did our show and the and the crowd loved us. And it was a line at our echoes booth, you know for the merch and all that stuff, and uh, the guy come. We're doing our meet and greet because we do what every show, signing autographs and you know, take a pictures some stuff.

13:00 Speaker 8: And one of the guys that owns the Blue Ocean came running up to me. He looked kind of frazzled, really, and he's like, is your whole band here? And I'm like yeah, I'm like they're over there doing the met and greets.

13:11 Speaker 3: Right.

13:11 Speaker 1: Yeah.

13:11 Speaker 2: He's like, okay, you gotta come out back. Ace wants to see you.

13:14 Speaker 8: So now I'm thinking, yeah, well, I didn't know if it was nice or he was gonna rip us. I didn't know if we did something wrong.

13:20 Speaker 2: So I was like, uh sure, So I go on and grab the guys and I'm like, let's just go out back.

13:26 Speaker 1: Yeah.

13:26 Speaker 2: We passed all these VIP guys, you know, people with VIP passes and stuff.

13:31 Speaker 8: I still don't know what's going on. And then we get to the wall and he goes, you know, hold on, I'm going to take a picture of you. So I'm thinking, oh, maybe Ace takes a picture of all the opening acts and he gets you know, for whatever reason.

13:42 Speaker 1: Yeah.

13:43 Speaker 8: So I'm still thinking this is why we're back here. And then this door opens and here he comes at six foot five or whatever.

13:49 Speaker 2: He's huge. He's so tall.

13:51 Speaker 1: Guy, he is he must have been wearing he was wearing cowboy budes. Really, yeah, because I noticed in the pictures he's towering over you guys, and I'm like, this, isn't that tall?

14:00 Speaker 9: Yeah?

14:00 Speaker 8: He is five eight, you know, so he but he came out, shook our hands, said you know, he loved what we played and thanked us. We thanked him, and he put his arms around us, took some pictures. Yeah, and then we went back to the things. So we weren't expecting that. Yeah, you know, so that was very cool of him, that is, you know, that's extremely cool.

14:17 Speaker 9: Yeah.

14:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, who else have you? Who else have you opened for.

14:22 Speaker 8: As far as far as legends, Like, I, uh was it with this present lineup?

14:27 Speaker 2: But I did ZZ Top and Skinned on the same bill.

14:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, but we've done everything from It's funny because we're my agent now. The one thing he loves about us is he can put us in any category from seventies to the two thousands to whatever. So yeah, we have literally done like eighties bands where we're playing with like enough's enough. We've played with Jackal, I've done Cinderella, you know, Faster pussy Cat. Then you turn around and they put us with all the Bridge, Theory of a Dead Man, Blackstone Cherry, Yep, you know, Buck Cherry, all these other bands, and then you go to bands like Edema and head Pe and you know when we played with Saliva and so Powerman five thousand is coming up, you know what I mean.

15:09 Speaker 8: So he loves the fact that he yeah, we did with Lynch Bomb. So it's like nice, we have all these different He loves the fact that we don't have to just go hey, it can only put you guys with this type of music, like we have done everything from the seventies, eighties, nineties and thousands, you know. And the good thing about that is he's just like, well, your branch of music can go from a twenty five year old to a seventy five year old, you know what I mean, So you have a fifty year gap, which a lot of bands don't have, and especially for a younger act like us.

15:37 Speaker 8: You know, these bands that we're playing with are all fifteen twenty years older than we are. So it's kind of like, well, we kind of got into a niche where it fit for us. Yeah, you know, but a lot a lot of those bands. I mean we've we've done a lot of nationals, from lower nationals that like the like you know, something that was around in the eighties, to legends like Case.

16:00 Speaker 1: Yeah that's fantastic.

16:02 Speaker 9: Yeah.

16:03 Speaker 1: Have you in terms of I mean, do you get out of New England to watch for those kind of shows?

16:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did a couple of stints myself in Nashville. Nice.

16:12 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I played the Bluebird and stuff like that. But the band right now, the core of us is I mean usually I hate to say it, but it usually comes down to money and things like that. And I mean everybody here has got you know, I'm the only one that's really not married, you know what I mean. Yeah, So it's just kind of like one of those type of deals. So I what I do is I keep it enough for everybody to go. Look, I made a deal with them and I said we'll start We'll go from Maine to Jersey. Yeah, you know, and I go and anything past that, I mean, obviously I'll give plenty of notice and all that stuff, but this way, everything's a day away, you know, a few.

16:48 Speaker 1: Hours that makes sense, you know.

16:49 Speaker 2: That way, it's like, okay, you know.

16:51 Speaker 8: If we're playing I'm telling you in two months, we're playing four shows and we're going from Maine to Rhode Island at Connecticut, the to Jersey to back to I mean, then no, you know what I mean, and they can put in for and in that way, it's not like I'm calling them, Hey, we're leaving for New York tomorrow, right, you know, so we kind of you kind of have to deal with the pros and cons of it. But if I want the lineup that we got, you know, and which I don't want them stuck sticking me with people that I don't know, you know, so it's just kind of like, all right, this is what we'll do and and be honest with you until the gigs are worth going past that it's it's you know what I mean, like, unless they're gonna give me a lot of money to go play for somebody that's in California, I mean, we'd.

17:34 Speaker 2: Love to go play the Whiskey, but how are we going to do it, you know.

17:37 Speaker 8: You know, I'm not spending seven grand to get to California, you know. So, I mean he's asked us, the guy that books the whiskey's asked because twice.

17:46 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, so I just it's all in time. Yeah, it'll happen.

17:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's just gonna be when it's a little bit more efficient to everybody, you know.

17:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to if anybody has any other projects that you're involved in, because I'm thinking of you Sherman specifically, because every drummer that we have on the show, almost every drummer, although Space Casino our guests in the last hour were a rare exception, but almost every drummer we have on the show is in like ten different bands.

18:15 Speaker 7: Nope, I I spend all my time strictly with these guys.

18:19 Speaker 1: No kidding, that's awesome. Well it's cool that you know. I mean, you guys play enough that, you know, to keep you busy.

18:25 Speaker 10: Right Yeah.

18:27 Speaker 5: One of the things that you know, I dabble in recording, and because I don't have my studio set up right now. We moved here from Houston, and once I get my studio set up, then we can start recording our stuff right now, I'm just recording our rehearsals. Okay, so we kind of flushed things out and yeah, it's kind of experiment there.

18:46 Speaker 1: Yeah.

18:46 Speaker 5: But but as far as you know, I'm not opposed to getting involved with a recording project. Yeah, but performing no, Okay, because I've and I've been approached a few times.

18:59 Speaker 7: Yeah, just I tell them, you know, Okay, but you know my priorities with Lone Wolf James.

19:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so that's even on my my band Mixed Photo is Yeah, Yeah, that's cool.

19:11 Speaker 7: I'm the drummer for Lone Wolf James. Yeah, this was my first priority.

19:15 Speaker 1: I have a I have a theory that you know, when you're when you're growing up and you first get interested in playing a musical instrument, you got to have the conversation with the parents. If you approach them with either the drums or maybe the tuba, they're they're trying to talk you out of it. And that's why drummers are in such high demand, I think, because a lot of parents try to talk their kids out of Now, you don't want to play My.

19:34 Speaker 2: Parents, man, they had the trumpet and then the drums.

19:38 Speaker 4: Because you.

19:40 Speaker 1: Were a drummer. First, yeah, wow, but oh boy, you played the trumpet.

19:45 Speaker 2: It started off. We ain't even getting into that story. Go ahead, and Truman keep talking.

19:49 Speaker 7: About that's funny. I started on the vio did you.

19:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool. Now, how many how many songs do you have as a band, because you've got you've got one full length album, right, but you've got others have two full length albums, two full length.

20:06 Speaker 2: And there's two before that, there's three EPs.

20:10 Speaker 1: Oh okay, we're a lot of material now.

20:12 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but we're we I mean unfortunately, on stage you only get about forty five minutes.

20:16 Speaker 2: So we're taking with Sherman. Now we know probably let's.

20:22 Speaker 8: Say fifteen sixteen songs, okay, and we dabble in twelve of them for the shows.

20:26 Speaker 2: We switched stuff in and out and whatever.

20:29 Speaker 8: But as a unit, like they're still Like the other day, we were bringing up songs that I hadn't played in fifteen years, you know, and they were just like, hey, you know, what if what if we do this? You know, and or hey I haven't heard that one or whatever. So my old stuff is still brand new to them. It's like saying, I came in with a new record, right, So, and the good thing is is, like I said, the first couple were acoustics. They were drums and stuff, but there were acoustic versions of the songs.

20:53 Speaker 8: Yeah, So to bring it in with a massive band and have that full band sound now, I mean when I traded my acoustic in for a marginal and Les Paul, I was like, Okay, this is serious. We're moving forward. And and then you add everybody and the next thing, you know, it's like, gee, what would this like. Guess there's a song that we're doing now that I want to record that I only have an acoustic version of and we do play it once in a while called Native Groove, and it's one of my favorites. And that was strictly mean acoustic with some drums and a little bass.

21:22 Speaker 2: That's all it was. It was. It was big sounded, you know, and I was like, man, imagine what this would sound like with a band.

21:28 Speaker 8: So we brought it in and now you add Sherman, you had Jeff, you know, and you had Tim with my guitar, and it's like, wow, this is just like a wall of sound, you know. So this is that's one of the first tracks I want to record after we'd get done with this one, you know, like when they come to us.

21:45 Speaker 2: And say, hey, I need more material, you bet write in the studio. Because we got a couple of songs written that we want to do, and that's high on my list.

21:53 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good to have things that are ready to ready to work on, you know, you know, uh, trying to come up with that, you know.

22:00 Speaker 8: And we've written some new ones, like there's a song that we're dabbling on right now that Jeff and I kind of we're trying to put together. And then it was called Showtime, and and another one I want to Be Bad, we wrote. I wanted to do like an a c DC bass groove, like like the Jack, you know, and I kind of wanted to do something like that where it's all like sexual talking instead of singing and it's and I said, but I needed this certain.

22:24 Speaker 1: So I went.

22:24 Speaker 8: I went to his house and he's like, what do you want me to play? And I'm like, just go bom bom, think of like running with the Devil, you know what I mean, you know, like type type thing, and he did that, and uh, we kind of put this stuff in together and Tim came in is like, you know, what'd be great there some of this wah guitar and all that stuff. And then you know, Sherman's just looking at us. I'm like, just play a beat.

22:43 Speaker 3: You know.

22:45 Speaker 2: He finitely gets in figure out what he wants to do.

22:47 Speaker 8: But they came together and I was like wow, and then we were actually going to play that on these upcoming shows.

22:52 Speaker 1: Very cool.

22:52 Speaker 2: I want to be bad. It's going to be played on those.

22:54 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you've got enoughs enough coming up. You said you're gonna be opening for them.

22:59 Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, we're doing a tour leg of a tour with them, you are, Yeah, we're doing it doing I think it's Manchester, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

23:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're doing three nights in a row with them, Okay.

23:11 Speaker 1: In June, I always said they were underrated. Fly High, Michelle, I think is such a great song. And it's one of those songs you mentioned it to people now and they don't even remember it.

23:18 Speaker 4: You know.

23:19 Speaker 8: It's funny toocause Chip is singing. I think now I don't think it's the it's the original singer anymore. I think Chip's enough to the bass player. Yeah, I think he's the original member obviously, but I think I think I could be wrong, but I think he's singing. Oh okay, yeah, I think he's a singer, but he kept the name.

23:35 Speaker 1: Okay, but you mentioned lynch Mob too, You open for lynch Mob.

23:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're done down to Webster.

23:40 Speaker 1: Oh that must have been cool. Yeah, that first Lynch Mob album. Again, this is no one, no one even remembers, but Wicked Sensation. Yeah, this is one of my that would be in my top ten all time, just so so good.

23:53 Speaker 8: Well, it was funny because this was this is where I bring Tim in for that show. Yeah, because I you know, George Lynch. Hello, Yeah, he's a league guitar player, So I told I kept busting his chops. I kept saying, do you realize in the same month you have to open for for you know, for basically George Lynch, and a's freely and he's just.

24:10 Speaker 2: Like, shut up. So we were going over playing.

24:14 Speaker 8: We did our set and we played Linch and then Tim and I are on the side of the stage and George Lynch is right there and he's just playing, and I look over at Tim and he's just looking up at Georgie looks at me. He's got this like kid a Christmas look, So I'll let him take it.

24:30 Speaker 6: He even gave me a little nod because like I tried to squeeze in just a little piece of mister, but I didn't think he noticed. But he barely looked at me. Off stage, but I was side stage and he turned around and he did like a little rift that I do.

24:46 Speaker 1: No kidding, And then I was like, cool, what was he all buff? Too? Was his big body building phase?

24:56 Speaker 3: Yeah?

24:56 Speaker 2: He wasn't like that super buff?

24:58 Speaker 4: Yeah?

24:59 Speaker 6: Really yeah, concentrating all the time.

25:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so but you've got enough enough coming up. But what was yeah, there was there was another.

25:06 Speaker 2: One power Man five thousands coming. Yeah.

25:09 Speaker 8: We got a leg of a tour with them, and it's it's them and head Pe and things like that, and we just got off the road head Pe because they were on the Saliva leg that we did.

25:18 Speaker 2: We did a Saliva and you know Josie Scott.

25:22 Speaker 1: And what about what are we doing Nazareth?

25:25 Speaker 2: Oh Nazareth.

25:26 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a big.

25:30 Speaker 2: H So that's what I mean.

25:33 Speaker 8: They got legends like Ace and Nazareth and then we have you know, the power Man five thousands the Saliva's you know. You know, we're trying to get hooked up with a couple of things that you know, I really I can't say any of who they are yet because until the ink as dry as they say. But I think this summer, later in the summer, we're gonna get some bigger you know. The whole point if it was to try to get in with a lot of these bands that and in order. What people don't get is like the management companies and the agents.

26:04 Speaker 2: Are all interacting.

26:06 Speaker 8: So if you're playing with this band, they're the same agent as this band, and you ain't gonna play with that band? Do you play with this band? You know, like the or this venue without that venue and that kind of stuff.

26:16 Speaker 2: So the right now the contracts I'm doing the bands.

26:20 Speaker 8: It's great because you get to have a colectic of all these Like we opened the first tour we did was Tantric. Okay, I only knew one song from Tantric. Yeah, you know, and now they're like the coolest guys, you know what I mean.

26:32 Speaker 2: Like we hung out every night all weekend. We hung out with them every night backstage or real good to us, you know.

26:39 Speaker 8: In fact, Hugo even approached me about, you know, maybe producing one of my next songs or something like that.

26:45 Speaker 9: OK.

26:45 Speaker 8: So we'll see what happens with that. But but you know, in general, they were just cool guys. Yeah, they were really you know, we were and we're looking forward to to tour with them again.

26:53 Speaker 2: But we did that tour.

26:54 Speaker 8: I didn't know who they were other than you know, that one song or whatever. But but then it came out and you're like, wow, these are really good.

27:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they had a few hits. Yeah, Morning was the big ballad, which I really like that song. I can't remember what else, but.

27:08 Speaker 2: No breakdown was that breakthrough breakdown?

27:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was.

27:12 Speaker 8: But I mean, you know, it's it's so rare that you see because there's always an interconnection to like a lot of people don't know that who goes connected into the Betton Court family, you know and all that. So and it's funny because I knew all those guys, so it was kind of like, oh, okay, so we kind of know the thame like, we're going we're going to play a local show. We're not doing too many local shows, yeah, and we're playing a local show at the Raven, which is Chris Betton, Courts Club, who's Nudo's cousins.

27:37 Speaker 2: No brother, It's all connected, you know what I mean, It's all connected. So yeah, it's you just have you make the right friends, right places.

27:46 Speaker 4: You know.

27:46 Speaker 1: I'm curious because a lot of you know, a lot of music industry people listen to the show. Do you do you enjoy the business side of it? It seems like you do the way that you talk about it. But I know, but but maybe not the truth. I mean, I know, I mean, obviously you'd rather not have to do that part and focus on the creative part. I know, But but it seems like you or you or you seem like you understand the business part of it at least, which is puts you ahead of a lot of musicians.

28:15 Speaker 8: Used to be very overwhelming y now it makes you kind of a hole. But you have to be because if you're not, they're gonna walk all over you.

28:25 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, So like.

28:27 Speaker 8: The biggest thing I do, Like a lot of people like, oh, you know Loan James, he named the band after him and he's a singer. Yeah, I wish that was the case. That would be so much easier, right, But it's like, but I tell people all the time, and I say this to even these guys, and it's not a downshoot because I love them. Yeah, I said this is you guys are part of it, and you get to walk away and go home.

28:46 Speaker 1: Right.

28:47 Speaker 8: I don't get to lead Lone Wolf James because I am him. Right, So while everybody else is doing whatever they're doing, I'm handling contracts and phone calls and you know, and all this venue change this or this guy's been like we just we were supposed to play with La Guns right here in Manchester in October and because they played the Tupelo last night, which Tim went to, you know, you know when they went last night, I didn't even know. Yeah,

29:13 Speaker 8: they pulled the show I was already contracted for. So it's kind of like one of those like okay, well you know, what are you gonna do? You know it has nothing to do with me personally, right, so now I have to wait we do it. But it's like little things like that, or you know, you don't get you get to a you have everything in your contract about a venue and you get to the venue and there's no place for the band to change or park, and they want you to pay the park, like you want me to pay the.

29:37 Speaker 2: Park I'm playing, you know what I mean.

29:39 Speaker 8: So it's kind of like that's where you go, okay, because only so far you're gonna go, even just yourself, you have to get an agent, you have to get So what I did was I had an agent from years ago, and he hooked us up like Jeff's first show with us, like it was Jackal you know what I mean. He put us right here at Jewels and yeah, and it was like, you know, he booked us with that, and so I knew him for years, and but basically I ended up calling him and saying, how much to hire you want as a consultant just for us, just to do this blah blah blah, because I said, I'm getting calls and I'm doing these things, and I'm like, I need somebody who can haggle for me, that can talk contracts with these people and then gives me the contract so I understand it, you know, without all the bull you know.

30:29 Speaker 8: So that's basically all I did. And then with the fact that I've in the studio recording right now, and the and the producer that is recording us is he was huge. He he did stuff with Ray Charles, you know, Elton John, the Franklin Guns and Roses ac DC. So he yeah, he's he's worked with them all and he's in the studio producing this next record. So he's got us working on a deal, whether it's Sony or whatever. Yea, So hopefully that comes through. But with that happening, you get a buzz. People see who you were recording with, See what's going on.

31:09 Speaker 8: Well, these these guys aren't kidding you know, they're in Like you see the studio on Man, you know, and that kind of stuff, and people are like wow. Then you go from that and you get the right consultant who knows you and knows you're not just talking. And next thing you know, he's like, well, I'll give you a chance like his are are put our toes in the water for him?

31:29 Speaker 2: Was I know you can play a one off. I'm gonna put you on toe with Tan Trick.

31:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, don't disappoint us, you know what I mean, because if it comes back and you hear all this noise, he's gonna go any booking these guys with Sherman broke his foot right before the tour and he looked at me right after it happened, he goes, do not cancel those shows?

31:49 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so it.

31:54 Speaker 1: Was my fault. Oh my god, So you have how many show those did you have to play that way?

32:01 Speaker 9: We did?

32:01 Speaker 2: We did three or four of them.

32:03 Speaker 4: Yeah.

32:05 Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I think I took the boot off when we did Lyunch Mob because we were shooting the video. Because I took the boot off for that seconds. I didn't want to have this gigantic Yeah.

32:20 Speaker 8: We were like the second night in on the Tantric Show. Oh wow, he's back there and he's you know, he's got this big boot and all. And I'm just like, I'm looking back at him on stage and he's playing his heart out right. And then in the Alchemy, we were playing this.

32:34 Speaker 2: Place called the Alchemy is a great, great venue down in Providence, right, and it was pretty packed.

32:39 Speaker 8: I mean it was ocean all the way all the way back for a small club. And I finally look at him and I look at the crowd. I looked back at him and I go and look at this, you know, And I said, whatever I said, And I'm like, and he said, he's played with one leg right the whole and he lifts his foot up and the whole place went not you know, and I was just like, wow, that's great, you know, but that is rocket up you know.

33:00 Speaker 1: Wow, No, good for you? Wait, maybe said how many shows did you play with?

33:06 Speaker 7: At least at least?

33:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, I assume you didn't tell your doctor about it.

33:14 Speaker 7: No, he actually knew.

33:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was all right with it.

33:18 Speaker 2: Luckily.

33:18 Speaker 7: I'm a double bass.

33:19 Speaker 5: Drummer, so it was just my high hat. Okay, but I couldn't do I do do some sparse double bass in our songs.

33:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't. Oh wow, oh wow jo Yeah wow, definitely pulled it off. If you're just joining us, we've got the band Lone Wolf James here with us. Uh, live in studio. You want to play another we can play another track from the album. Yeah, I'll let you. Uh, I'll let you pick. Try first brop, Jeff, I.

33:52 Speaker 2: Like that one ahead. Yeah, he's trying to get me to bring this back into the set list.

34:00 Speaker 1: It's funny, it's a good track. Yeah, all right here it is. This is his first breath and the band is a Lone Wolf James.

34:08 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, so lo to my say me everything go be.

35:17 Speaker 2: Just the first off.

35:19 Speaker 4: Trying to make hey me all about it is that way of you take the first, will me?

36:31 Speaker 3: Yesterday's lover.

36:39 Speaker 4: Swears that you're not You're not the first. I guarantee

36:54 Speaker 4: you won't be the.

36:59 Speaker 9: Some Oh, come.

37:02 Speaker 4: Now the day we'll take.

37:22 Speaker 10: First first?

39:56 Speaker 1: All right? That is uh first breath that the band is Lone Wolf James. We've got the guys from Lone Wolf James here in studio with us. If you are listening live, you guys are all uh, you're you're pretty scattered. I know we were talking about it, off are you guys are pretty scattered right in terms of where you all live?

40:13 Speaker 4: Right?

40:13 Speaker 1: Yeah? Does that make it well? Actually though, although I think you had said earlier too, you're playing so many shows, you don't necessarily need to get together for too many rehearsals, right, But but it must make it a little challenging, right, But it shows It shows a level of commitment too that you have that you're able to be be kind of scattered and you know, live far away from each other, but still you know, put in the time to get together and work on the band.

40:36 Speaker 8: Sureman, actually kind of came to the rescue one that one when when I had my studio. My dad died years ago, and I had put built a studio, rehearsal studio downstairs my mom. My mom lived upstairs and I had my studio downstairs, so the band would always just come there, and I was down a mass yeah yeah, And unfortunately this passed Octoba she passed away. So when she passed away, you know, I had to sell her house and all that. Yeah, we were looking around for places to go blah blah, and Sherman was just kind of like, just bring it to my house, Oh okay, And then we went up there and we you know, he has a he has a bunch of gear and studio, so he cleared out one of his rooms at his house.

41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, and up in Wakefield, so that's where.

41:15 Speaker 1: We rehearsed now, so excellent.

41:17 Speaker 8: And so he kind of came to the rescue on that one because yeah, it's private and we can get there, we can play when we want to, you know. And but yeah, my goal was to keep us so busy. We're not just sitting in our rehearsal room concert, right, I mean, if we have something we want to work on, great, yeah, you know, but like we took April off and I think this is the most we've rehearsed, we've had like we got today, so it'll be like the third.

41:40 Speaker 2: One in a row, you know. But then after that we hit May and we probably won't be back in that room till August. Yeah, so who knows, you know.

41:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's good to be busy. Yep, excellent, excellent? What do you oh? Jeezu? The time goes so quick? So I want to make sure well a couple of things. So I want to make sure people know where to go online to keep up with everything that you guys are doing. Where's the best place?

42:03 Speaker 2: Reverb Nation is our main like our main page.

42:06 Speaker 8: So if you go to reverb nation dot com, slash Lonel James, it brings up pictures, our tour dates, all up live events, things like that. Plus each one of us has our own Facebook page. Okay, so if you go to Gary James or or there's a Lone Wolf James Facebook page. Yeah yeah, but that's more of a bulletin page. It just kind of shows the posters where we're playing and things like that. But individually, you can contact any of us on Facebook individually and then go ask any questions or what do.

42:32 Speaker 1: You want okay, okay, and oh you have a couple of videos to right or do you or maybe just one? Do you have you have a music video?

42:40 Speaker 6: Right?

42:40 Speaker 8: Cradle was the professional videos. Cradle was the professional video we shot years ago. And as of right now, we're we're going to start soon production on a song called Freaks that we're recording in the studio and we're we're doing that. Plus Sherman had mentioned off air in your mind to me, thank you that when we played thench Mob show, our engineer from the studio, Jay had come down and brought he works for Metronome, and he had come down with all his cameras and everything and shot a live video of us that night opening for Lynch Mob.

43:15 Speaker 8: So it was a huge crowd at the website there, cool and all that. So we have the live footage, we just don't have the concept footage yet, gotcha. So we're going to be doing that over the summer and then when it gets all it's called. And in fact, I got in touch. I don't know who we're gonna use yet, but one of the guys that contacted me off he contacted me. He did all the Saliva videos. Yeah, So I was like well, that's a good rep, you know, if he's doing Salivas click click hoom and always.

43:44 Speaker 2: So I was like, that's a good guy to have in your pocket. So I've been going back and forth with him, and now we're discussing contract about it. So we'll see what happens.

43:52 Speaker 8: Because you know the live footage from Jay and the concept stuff that this guy's going, he's talking about me like having some kind of weird circus tent tight looking thing.

44:02 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:02 Speaker 8: Yeah, So we've already kind of gone back and forth and I'm gonna get everybody's input on what we're gonna do. Yeah, but so it'll you know, that'll come out after the record, after the song comes out.

44:11 Speaker 1: Okay, but okay, very cool. And what's the next show you've got coming up?

44:15 Speaker 8: The next one is going to be the next national show is May seventeenth, May ninth at the Blue Ocean with Nazareth.

44:23 Speaker 1: Oh very cool.

44:24 Speaker 2: Yeah cool, that's the next one. And then May seventeenth is at Hartford with.

44:28 Speaker 1: Tim Montana outstanding, outstanding, very good, very good. Well, guys, thank you so much for coming in, all four of you. This has been wonderful. I really appreciate your being here. We're gonna wrap up in a moment because we are approaching the top of the hour, but we will. We'll play one more track to end the show today. What what should we play?

44:44 Speaker 2: Wickhaman. We'll end it up with Wickaman wick am Man.

44:47 Speaker 1: Okay, cool?

44:47 Speaker 4: I like that.

44:48 Speaker 1: Any kind of a story behind the song, not everyone knows, not really.

44:52 Speaker 2: It's just the fact that I'm wicking, okay.

44:55 Speaker 8: And somebody once said, you know, oh my god, you're evil and blah blah blah blah. So I kind of I did a tongue in cheek song about you know, the wicked man being evil, but it's kind of it's eerie, but it's eerie in my.

45:06 Speaker 2: Book because I joked about it.

45:08 Speaker 7: Yeah.

45:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's There's really no like deep subject to it or anything.

45:14 Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a perfect way to end the show.

45:16 Speaker 3: That h.

46:32 Speaker 4: Will. Then you heard the story.

46:36 Speaker 2: I'm about a place no out in Swampland.

46:43 Speaker 4: Under the moon's gloom.

46:47 Speaker 2: Well then it is restless.

46:50 Speaker 4: A town lives a fire.

46:54 Speaker 1: From a dry o women where the dams glear.

47:03 Speaker 4: You can you can side, it's just forget your can time the side bringing get a there's no way to find him. You can't make a stand. Nothing's gonna stop him.

47:50 Speaker 9: It's insane hands, no shaman fooddoo, no gypsy cristal ball,

48:01 Speaker 9: no motile magic.

48:04 Speaker 2: It's gonna make a fall.

48:10 Speaker 4: You can run, you can side. Is this what gets you can no more in the side? Wing you get run when you get side?

48:29 Speaker 1: Is this waget You can no moti on.

48:33 Speaker 4: The side winging in You can get side. That's quick as you can. The side way

49:25 Speaker 3: You can, Yes, it's a quick as you can the bus the side way, yeah,