Matt Connarton Unleashed: Oasis Ticket Debacle

0:00 Speaker 1: Something that's been going on in the music industry news. Actually,

0:04 Speaker 1: this is what we do when uh, when something goes

0:07 Speaker 1: awry with with a guest. Is what happened today with

0:10 Speaker 1: our our our number two guest. There's been a lot

0:14 Speaker 1: of the biggest kind of news I think over the

0:16 Speaker 1: past week in music in the world of music is Oasis. Uh.

0:23 Speaker 1: They are reuniting the band. Uh the Gallagher brothers, Uh,

0:27 Speaker 1: Liam and Noel Gallagher.

0:30 Speaker 2: Uh.

0:31 Speaker 1: You know, bands fighting or I'm sorry I should say

0:34 Speaker 1: brothers fighting within bands.

0:37 Speaker 2: Uh not an unusual thing.

0:39 Speaker 3: Uh.

0:39 Speaker 1: History tells us, you know you've got the Kinks. You

0:41 Speaker 1: know you've got Ray Davies and Dave Davies and their

0:45 Speaker 1: epic arguments and so forth. But apparently, uh, the Gallagher

0:48 Speaker 1: brothers putting their differences aside for a big reunion tour.

0:52 Speaker 2: We have a call.

0:52 Speaker 1: Let's grab this call. So he was, oh, no, nobody there, Okay,

0:55 Speaker 1: someone was just calling us. Uh yeah, the Gallagher brothers. Uh,

0:58 Speaker 1: they're putting putting their differences aside for this tour. But

1:03 Speaker 1: it was interesting to see some of the reactions on

1:05 Speaker 1: social media because people are cynical very often, and a

1:09 Speaker 1: lot of people are suggesting that well, this isn't going

1:12 Speaker 1: to last, this isn't going to be real. The tour

1:15 Speaker 1: will end up getting canceled, you know, after five dates,

1:19 Speaker 1: because the Gallaghers are particularly famous for not getting along

1:23 Speaker 1: and like I said, brothers arguing within bands. You've got

1:29 Speaker 1: Ray Davies and Ray and Dave Davies from the Kinks.

1:34 Speaker 1: You've got bands where you have not necessarily brothers, but

1:37 Speaker 1: people who are like brothers, like you know, Tyler and

1:41 Speaker 1: Perry of Aerosmith so forth. But there are a lot

1:44 Speaker 1: of examples of actual blood brothers and bands not getting along.

1:48 Speaker 1: So there's already a lot of cynicism, a lot of

1:51 Speaker 1: skepticism about, you know, whether this Oasis tour is really

1:54 Speaker 1: gonna is really gonna happen. But there's also an issue

1:59 Speaker 1: with getting tickets, and the AP is reporting error messages

2:02 Speaker 1: and lengthy online cues greet fans scrambling to secure Oasis

2:07 Speaker 1: reunion tickets. It says here Oasis fans seeking tickets to

2:12 Speaker 1: the band's reunion tour endured hours long waits and in

2:17 Speaker 1: some cases disappointment, as online platforms strained under demand Saturday

2:22 Speaker 1: from hundreds of thousands of fans. The britpop era behemoth,

2:27 Speaker 1: led by brothers Noel and Liam Gallagher, is scheduled to

2:30 Speaker 1: play seventeen gigs.

2:33 Speaker 2: And that's it. That's a short actually a short tour.

2:37 Speaker 3: It's first limited chances to see them. Yeah.

2:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, These are their first shows in fifteen years, kicking

2:44 Speaker 1: off in Cardiff, Manchester, London, Edinburgh and Dublin starting July four. No,

2:50 Speaker 1: that is not Manchester, New Hampshire, of course, Manchester, England.

2:53 Speaker 1: More than one million tickets went on sale on Saturday morning,

2:56 Speaker 1: with prices starting at about seventy four pounds, which would

3:00 Speaker 1: be just under one hundred dollars American. Some people attempting

3:04 Speaker 1: to get into the handful of authorized sales sites including

3:07 Speaker 1: Ticketmaster and Gigs and Tours received error messages, while many

3:13 Speaker 1: others were informed they were in a lengthy queue. Josh Jeffrey,

3:18 Speaker 1: a videographer who lives near Edinburgh, spent hours moving up

3:22 Speaker 1: the online ticket queue before the whole site collapsed At

3:26 Speaker 1: the last step. He said, I've given up. My friends

3:30 Speaker 1: have given up. We just decided it's too much hassle.

3:34 Speaker 1: As I was in the queue, I heard wonderwall blasting

3:37 Speaker 1: out from my neighbor's house. He'd obviously gotten tickets.

3:42 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, yeah, And they were saying that within hours

3:45 Speaker 3: of the tickets going on sale, they were turning up

3:48 Speaker 3: on resale websites for as much as seventy eight hundred dollars. Yeah,

3:54 Speaker 3: seventy eight hundred dollars per ticket. No, thank you.

3:58 Speaker 2: Well, that's it.

4:00 Speaker 3: I don't like nobody that much.

4:01 Speaker 2: The way, So that.

4:04 Speaker 1: Apparently is trying to look it up quickly. That specifically

4:08 Speaker 1: is being addressed apparently by Oasis. They don't want they

4:13 Speaker 1: don't want these resale sites selling the tickets.

4:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're warning people not to buy.

4:17 Speaker 1: Them right right, Which is interesting because so the way

4:21 Speaker 1: the secondhand ticket market works is so some of these

4:25 Speaker 1: resale sites, obviously they're basically scalpers online. You know, they

4:31 Speaker 1: buy up all these tickets and then they resell them

4:33 Speaker 1: on their own sites. But some of them, this is

4:35 Speaker 1: what's a little little dirty about it to some people.

4:41 Speaker 1: Depends on we could actually do a whole segment on

4:43 Speaker 1: this one of these days. Sometimes the resale site isn't

4:48 Speaker 1: necessarily a scalper site. Sometimes it's a resale site that

4:52 Speaker 1: is in some way affiliated with the main site. So

4:55 Speaker 1: for example, Ticketmaster, I forget what they're like, there's a

4:59 Speaker 1: there's another site that's like a reseller, but but they

5:03 Speaker 1: actually just get like they're actually owned by ticket Master.

5:08 Speaker 2: It's it's all very weird and it's a little dirty.

5:12 Speaker 2: This uh, this business.

5:13 Speaker 3: Whole thing is. And the thing I don't understand that

5:16 Speaker 3: they do, though, is that the the AP talks about

5:20 Speaker 3: how the the bands are warning people not to buy them,

5:25 Speaker 3: that they're saying that these tickets are either counterfeit or

5:28 Speaker 3: they're getting canceled by the promoter. So if these tickets

5:32 Speaker 3: show up on secondary sites, they're actually getting canceled, right,

5:36 Speaker 3: and you've got a nothing ticket? Which how did they

5:39 Speaker 3: get away with doing that?

5:40 Speaker 2: Which I don't.

5:41 Speaker 1: Understand, which I've never seen that before, where where these

5:44 Speaker 1: tickets are actually getting canceled.

5:46 Speaker 3: I don't understand how that works.

5:47 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's a tangled, tangled web this business.

5:52 Speaker 1: Remember years and years ago when Pearl Jam tried to

5:54 Speaker 1: take on Ticketmaster and how that they ended up.

5:56 Speaker 2: They ended up giving up.

5:59 Speaker 3: Book of Masters like the Giant.

6:01 Speaker 2: But yeah, so Variety has this story up.

6:03 Speaker 1: Oasis warns against reselling as fans report technical issues getting

6:08 Speaker 1: tickets for the reunion tour. Yeah, because you know, you

6:11 Speaker 1: try to get the tickets, you end up in it's

6:14 Speaker 1: like when you're trying to buy them. It's like when

6:16 Speaker 1: you're trying to call some customer service line and you're

6:18 Speaker 1: put into a queue, and you know, and your waighttime

6:22 Speaker 1: is three hours and fifty eight minutes, you know, estimated waytime,

6:26 Speaker 1: and then you know an hour later, your estimated waytime

6:28 Speaker 1: is now three hours and fifty one.

6:30 Speaker 2: Minutes, and you don't know if you're ever gonna get through,

6:33 Speaker 2: and then eventually you just get hung up on It's

6:35 Speaker 2: like that.

6:35 Speaker 1: But but so then so they try to buy these tickets,

6:38 Speaker 1: so then they go to one of the secondary sites.

6:40 Speaker 1: So here's what Variety is reporting. Oasis fans aren't finding

6:44 Speaker 1: much glory this morning while trying to buy tickets for

6:47 Speaker 1: the band's highly anticipated reunion tour, with many reporting technical issues.

6:52 Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip down, okay, So it says here it's

6:56 Speaker 1: part of this we covered already. So in a statement

7:01 Speaker 1: to Variety, Ticketmaster set its site had not crashed and

7:04 Speaker 1: the queue is moving along. Well, I suppose if you're

7:07 Speaker 1: sitting there, by the way, if you're sitting there at

7:10 Speaker 1: your computer, on the site. You know it maybe it

7:13 Speaker 1: crashes or maybe your browser is having an issue. You

7:15 Speaker 1: can't be sure, but most likely it crashed, and I

7:17 Speaker 1: think Ticketmaster is probably just not being honest. But okay,

7:21 Speaker 1: so I know it's shocking. So, a spokesperson said, quote,

7:25 Speaker 1: as anticipated, millions of fans are accessing our site so

7:30 Speaker 1: have been placed in a queue. Fans are advised to

7:32 Speaker 1: hold their place in line. Make sure they're only using

7:35 Speaker 1: one tab clear cookies, and I'm sure they aren't using

7:39 Speaker 1: any VPN software on their device.

7:41 Speaker 2: Unquote.

7:42 Speaker 3: Geez, you can figure everything before you try to buy tickets.

7:47 Speaker 1: As fans scrambled for tickets, Oasis repeatedly warned against scams

7:54 Speaker 1: and ticket reselling. In a message posted to x later

7:58 Speaker 1: on Saturday morning, the band wrote quote and by the way,

8:01 Speaker 1: the band, you know, it's not like one of the

8:03 Speaker 1: gallaghers is actually writing this. Obviously it's management, but this

8:06 Speaker 1: is what was written.

8:06 Speaker 2: Quote. Please note Oasis.

8:09 Speaker 1: Live twenty five tickets can only be resold at face

8:12 Speaker 1: value via at Ticketmaster UK and at twickets. Tickets appearing

8:19 Speaker 1: on other secondary ticketing sites are either counterfeit or will

8:23 Speaker 1: be canceled by the promoters. Unquote. Soon after the pre

8:28 Speaker 1: sale for the tour started on Friday night, tickets began

8:30 Speaker 1: appearing on reselling websites such as stub hub and via

8:34 Speaker 1: go Go for as much as six thousand whatever that

8:38 Speaker 1: is pounds. I guess face value for a standing ticket

8:41 Speaker 1: to the tour is one hundred and fifty pounds, and

8:43 Speaker 1: seated tickets range up to two hundred five pounds. By

8:46 Speaker 1: the way, stub Hub, I think stub hub is the site,

8:49 Speaker 1: the secondary quote unquote secondary site that is actually owned

8:52 Speaker 1: by ticket masters. Oh no, K I believe it's stub Hub.

8:56 Speaker 1: The other two websites, gigs and Tour and see Tickets,

8:59 Speaker 1: were reported to be holding fans in a temporary queue

9:02 Speaker 1: before directing them to the purchase page. But h yeah,

9:07 Speaker 1: so so the band's management is warning, you know, don't

9:10 Speaker 1: go to these secondary sites. I'm gonna look this up

9:13 Speaker 1: really quickly. I want to know if I'm right about that, if.

9:17 Speaker 3: I was actually just trying to look that up too.

9:19 Speaker 3: But I didn't quite get this.

9:20 Speaker 2: Stub Hub my computer.

9:23 Speaker 3: My computer slowed down.

9:24 Speaker 2: Well that I suggest. If that's the case.

9:27 Speaker 3: I must clear my cookies.

9:28 Speaker 1: Take ticketmaster's advice. Uh clear, yes, clear, your cookies and

9:32 Speaker 1: your cash and uh no VPNs.

9:37 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I have that.

9:38 Speaker 1: Okay, I was wrong. StubHub is not owned by Ticketmaster.

9:42 Speaker 1: StubHub is privately owned. Maybe it's seat geek there. There

9:48 Speaker 1: is a secondary company, a secondary market company that is

9:51 Speaker 1: owned by Ticketmaster. But uh yeah, so that's what's going

9:57 Speaker 1: on there. I think that, Uh, I do think the

10:01 Speaker 1: tour will happen again. Like I said, there's a lot

10:03 Speaker 1: of cynicism online. You know, there was, I remember back

10:07 Speaker 1: when Oasis first got really big. There's there's actually an EP,

10:11 Speaker 1: you know, a bootleg that someone put out or a

10:14 Speaker 1: CD of one of their I think it's called Sibling Rivalry,

10:18 Speaker 1: and it's they were in the studio and someone left

10:22 Speaker 1: the tape rolling on an argument that Nolan William Gallagher

10:25 Speaker 1: were having in studio where they're yelling at each other,

10:29 Speaker 1: and it's I'm sure it's on YouTube. It's kind of interest.

10:31 Speaker 1: I pull it up and play it, but there's definitely

10:34 Speaker 1: profanity in it. So but uh yeah, So that's that's

10:38 Speaker 1: what's going on with Oasis there. So I don't know

10:41 Speaker 1: if there are they planning to come to the United States.

10:44 Speaker 2: They must be.

10:45 Speaker 3: Ticket Master also owns Live Nation.

10:49 Speaker 1: Yes, they are one and the same and have been

10:50 Speaker 1: for a long time, to the chagrin of some people

10:53 Speaker 1: who believe that that is a monopoly. Uh, and that

10:57 Speaker 1: that merger should not have been approved by the govern

11:00 Speaker 1: But we won't get into all of that.

11:02 Speaker 3: They also acquired front Gate Tickets. Uh, that's another company. Yeah,

11:10 Speaker 3: they apparently acquired.

11:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, they gobble up a lot of these smaller ticket companies.

11:16 Speaker 3: But there's another one called Universe that they got that's

11:20 Speaker 3: a DIY ticketing platform.

11:22 Speaker 2: Really.

11:23 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just getting to kick at all the

11:24 Speaker 3: stuff they own here.

11:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, they try to gobble everybody tickets.

11:28 Speaker 3: Front Gate Tickets, Yeah they got that one too.

11:30 Speaker 1: But there's a major one that everyone's heard of, and

11:33 Speaker 1: I can't remember who it is.

11:35 Speaker 3: Upgraded girts physical tickets into digital ones.

11:39 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there isn't. Maybe there isn't. I

11:41 Speaker 1: thought it was a big one that people have heard of,

11:44 Speaker 1: like stub Hub, that everyone's just kind of aware of.

11:46 Speaker 1: But they try to but they try to conceal that

11:49 Speaker 1: they're actually owned by a Ticketmaster. Maybe I'm wrong.