Matt Connarton Unleashed: Paperjam Magazine

0:01 Speaker 1: I've had that song stuck in my head for a

0:03 Speaker 1: solid week now. That is not coming back by Day

0:06 Speaker 1: to Attend who were here with us last week, and

0:08 Speaker 1: there's a very specific reason why we played that. And

0:10 Speaker 1: we have joining us live in studio. And these fine

0:14 Speaker 1: people were spoken about last week by the band because

0:18 Speaker 1: we had Day to Attend here with us in the

0:20 Speaker 1: first hour, and now they are joining us and we

0:22 Speaker 1: get to speak with them live on the air. We

0:23 Speaker 1: have Sheila and Tony Russo from Paper Jam Magazine.

0:27 Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you.

0:29 Speaker 3: Thank you to here.

0:30 Speaker 2: Yes.

0:30 Speaker 1: Yes, and by the way, so you brought us this

0:32 Speaker 1: is cool. I should hold this up for people watching online,

0:36 Speaker 1: the Girls Rock edition of Paper Jam Magazine. And for

0:39 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, so this is a publication,

0:42 Speaker 1: Well tell us some tell us a bit about this.

0:45 Speaker 1: How long has Paper Jam existed.

0:47 Speaker 2: We're in our third year.

0:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're coming up on our third year, about two

0:51 Speaker 3: and a half years.

0:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

0:53 Speaker 1: And of course the way we met was through Day

0:55 Speaker 1: to Attend because they were our guests in the first

0:58 Speaker 1: hour last week, and they're on the current the cover

1:00 Speaker 1: of the current edition.

1:01 Speaker 3: Yes, they are our cover story for this new issue.

1:04 Speaker 1: Yes, and they are in the chat room as well.

1:06 Speaker 1: So in fact, I think it was Tom Sarahcuso was saying,

1:09 Speaker 1: if I'm saying his last name correctly, out that I

1:11 Speaker 1: have great taste in music, assume because I played the

1:14 Speaker 1: Day to well.

1:15 Speaker 3: You made you definitely made my morning starting off with

1:18 Speaker 3: that song because I'm a huge fan.

1:20 Speaker 1: Of dates with Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. We were

1:23 Speaker 1: talking about that off air. Is it the CD release

1:26 Speaker 1: party is on your birthday?

1:27 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Happy Birthday to me. Is their their new

1:31 Speaker 3: album World of Zen Falling Awake is going to be

1:34 Speaker 3: available on August thirty.

1:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited.

1:37 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:37 Speaker 1: We played a bunch of their tracks for the first

1:39 Speaker 1: time on the radio when they were here last week,

1:41 Speaker 1: and uh no, those guys are those guys are absolutely amazing.

1:45 Speaker 1: I do want to say make sure we say hello

1:46 Speaker 1: to everybody in the Facebook live chat, because, like I said,

1:49 Speaker 1: you do have some some fans in there.

1:51 Speaker 2: Yep.

1:51 Speaker 1: Jeff Richards from Day to Attend in the chatroom says Hi,

1:55 Speaker 1: Sheila and Tony uh and good morning. We love paper Jam,

2:00 Speaker 1: they say. Tom Syracusa says paper Jam in the house,

2:05 Speaker 1: Let's see oh And Anthony Nicastro from Purging.

2:10 Speaker 3: Perging Sand another great, great band. I believe they just

2:13 Speaker 3: opened up for Godsmack and Flat Black.

2:16 Speaker 2: Right, I believe.

2:17 Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's a that's a big show. Yeah, good,

2:19 Speaker 1: good for them. They've been around a while. Miriam Banishad

2:22 Speaker 1: joins us in the Facebook. She says, excellent song, I assume,

2:26 Speaker 1: referring to not coming Back. Yeah, that, like I said,

2:29 Speaker 1: that's been stuck in my head for the past week.

2:31 Speaker 1: So I'm glad I had a good excuse to play

2:33 Speaker 1: it again on the show this morning. Melanie La Liberty,

2:37 Speaker 1: one of our great friends from the state of Vermont,

2:41 Speaker 1: joins us in the chat room. Daniel Syracusa says, love

2:45 Speaker 1: day to attend seeing them in drake It at the

2:49 Speaker 1: boat tonight. Oh yeah, they were talking about that show.

2:51 Speaker 1: Oh that must be Tom's brother.

2:53 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:54 Speaker 1: So so Paper Jam So it's been around for three years,

2:57 Speaker 1: you said two and a half two and a half years, okay,

3:00 Speaker 1: and it's gone through a bit of a transformation, right

3:02 Speaker 1: because now so it had been uh, strictly paper, but

3:06 Speaker 1: now it's also a digital magazine publication.

3:10 Speaker 3: That's that's brand new as of about two weeks ago. Okay,

3:14 Speaker 3: we decided to do a digital version version because a

3:18 Speaker 3: lot of people were asking for it. Yeah and uh

3:22 Speaker 3: so we took some time to think about it and

3:25 Speaker 3: to make the decision. And I'm very happy with the

3:29 Speaker 3: response that we received when people realized they could click

3:32 Speaker 3: the link, click and read the digital version. But the

3:35 Speaker 3: paper copies are definitely not going away, right.

3:38 Speaker 2: No, no, no, We'll definitely keep the papers.

3:41 Speaker 4: That's what we're about, hence the name.

3:43 Speaker 3: So now you can choose. Now you can choose. You

3:45 Speaker 3: can get your paper copy or you can going forward

3:50 Speaker 3: read a digital version.

3:51 Speaker 1: So and by the way, so I suggest people check

3:53 Speaker 1: out paper jam magazine dot com. I'm looking at it

3:56 Speaker 1: right now. And we were talking off air. I was

3:59 Speaker 1: a compliment Sheila on her web design because I love

4:02 Speaker 1: the website. It looks really good. And I'm a web

4:04 Speaker 1: design nerd and I'm very critical of websites and I

4:07 Speaker 1: see a lot of websites that aren't great. But this

4:09 Speaker 1: one's really good, and like I said, it's perfect for

4:11 Speaker 1: what you're doing. So I suggest everyone check it out

4:14 Speaker 1: now on the website are all the back issues on

4:18 Speaker 1: the website. They are Oh wow, Okay, that must have

4:20 Speaker 1: taken a while to that must have been a lot

4:22 Speaker 1: of work, I would imagine to get all of that,

4:24 Speaker 1: it was a lot of work. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. But

4:28 Speaker 1: so the paper version is not going away.

4:30 Speaker 2: No.

4:31 Speaker 1: Now that's what's interesting about that. So I'm really curious

4:34 Speaker 1: about that. So when you decided to start Paper Jam,

4:36 Speaker 1: and obviously, as you said, it's it's called so the name,

4:39 Speaker 1: it's called that because it's a paper publication, did anybody

4:44 Speaker 1: did anyone try to talk you out of it? And

4:46 Speaker 1: the reason I ask that is because we live in

4:48 Speaker 1: an era where everything is where everything is digital, and

4:52 Speaker 1: a lot of publications like newspapers and a lot of

4:56 Speaker 1: magazines over the years, over the past twenty years, have

4:59 Speaker 1: have been gradually going away because they didn't find it

5:04 Speaker 1: to be a sustainable model, and some of them went away,

5:07 Speaker 1: you know, some of those companies have gone away completely.

5:10 Speaker 1: A lot of them now are strictly online. So I mean,

5:14 Speaker 1: did anyone say to you, wow, what? Because honestly, like,

5:17 Speaker 1: if I knew you before you started this, I probably

5:20 Speaker 1: and you talk to me about it, I probably would

5:22 Speaker 1: have been like, I don't know, I would have been skeptical,

5:24 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just as a business person,

5:26 Speaker 1: you took the risk and you've obviously made it work.

5:29 Speaker 1: This is a success, and it's very impressive by the way,

5:31 Speaker 1: And I was talking too about when Day to Attend

5:34 Speaker 1: was here, and I'm I'm kind of flipping through the

5:35 Speaker 1: issue that they were in, and I'm like, wow, this

5:38 Speaker 1: is really there's a lot here, There's a lot.

5:41 Speaker 3: It's always jam packed.

5:42 Speaker 1: So you've you've really made this work. But did anyone.

5:46 Speaker 1: I mean, I assume you had people who are skeptical,

5:49 Speaker 1: people who are doubters, and you had to kind.

5:50 Speaker 3: Of believe it or not. What's so interesting is maybe

5:54 Speaker 3: that worked in our favor. Ye paper publications went away

5:57 Speaker 3: because do you recall the era of of zines, Remember.

6:01 Speaker 2: Zes where the whole idea.

6:04 Speaker 3: That's where the whole idea came from.

6:06 Speaker 5: I used to live in Massachusetts and I was you know,

6:09 Speaker 5: I played in bands my whole life, and there was

6:11 Speaker 5: a couple of scenes like the noise and stuff like that.

6:13 Speaker 2: It was like a big deal if your band got

6:15 Speaker 2: in there.

6:16 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and it's you know something I still have

6:18 Speaker 5: to the stack and show, you know, my niece's and nephews.

6:20 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, look, I was actually in a magazine.

6:22 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, like you could walk into any

6:24 Speaker 1: any music venue and see stacks of.

6:26 Speaker 5: Different all the different ones. Yeah, yeah, and they went

6:29 Speaker 5: away just like you said. And so one night she

6:33 Speaker 5: was an English major and I'm like, listen, this is

6:35 Speaker 5: after a gig, is like two thirty in the morning.

6:37 Speaker 3: In the morning.

6:39 Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, scenes used to be a big deal.

6:41 Speaker 5: It's too bad that we have such a great music

6:44 Speaker 5: scene and that doesn't exist anymore. Right, It's like we

6:48 Speaker 5: should start our own magazine. And Tony, you love English

6:51 Speaker 5: and you love music.

6:52 Speaker 2: You know.

6:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony gets all the credit for coming up with

6:55 Speaker 3: the idea. So this is the true story, right Tony.

6:59 Speaker 3: So the next day I woke up, he woke up,

7:03 Speaker 3: and I had already been to Staples and it made.

7:07 Speaker 1: A mock up.

7:08 Speaker 2: So yeah, and in like six hours he already had one.

7:11 Speaker 3: And so what's so interesting? And So, to answer your question,

7:14 Speaker 3: did anyone try to talk us out of it or

7:16 Speaker 3: encourage us to go a different route? No, in fact,

7:20 Speaker 3: it caught on quickly.

7:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. We had actually a lot of support, good.

7:23 Speaker 3: And so and so we tend to say that we're

7:25 Speaker 3: old school in a lot of ways, and so we

7:28 Speaker 3: liked the idea of bringing back zines, but making it

7:31 Speaker 3: more modern. Yeah, and so so everyone was really encouraging

7:36 Speaker 3: right from the beginning. So maybe the fact that paper

7:39 Speaker 3: publications went away worked in our favorite because here they

7:42 Speaker 3: were coming back and people were really digging it.

7:45 Speaker 1: There was it was like there was a void that

7:48 Speaker 1: needed to be filled. Yeah, no one was doing it.

7:50 Speaker 3: And and and so it was working out great.

7:52 Speaker 2: And we did.

7:53 Speaker 5: It's not really like a business per se, it's we

7:55 Speaker 5: don't make money from it, yeah, and to make money

7:58 Speaker 5: from it, yeah, the idea was just to give some

8:01 Speaker 5: support and recognition.

8:02 Speaker 3: To the local band.

8:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. It really is.

8:06 Speaker 5: All the bands that you meet and talk to and

8:09 Speaker 5: many many more, they're all just real nice guys. So

8:12 Speaker 5: the idea was just sort of give back a little bit.

8:14 Speaker 5: You know, I play in bands, so I know what

8:16 Speaker 5: it's like.

8:17 Speaker 1: You know, do you play earlier?

8:18 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm in two bands.

8:19 Speaker 1: Oh what what bands?

8:21 Speaker 5: I'm in the on Peg band out of Rochester and

8:23 Speaker 5: I'm in a band called p S out of Altam.

8:26 Speaker 1: Oh cool, cool, excellent, excellent. Yeah, so this is now

8:31 Speaker 1: when it when it started, was the first issue like

8:35 Speaker 1: this where.

8:36 Speaker 3: No, it was very different, brought to Coveted first to

8:40 Speaker 3: show you.

8:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, for for those watching online, if you're

8:43 Speaker 1: watching on Facebook.

8:45 Speaker 3: Made it staples and I hand stapled it at my

8:48 Speaker 3: kitchen table and put them around town. This was how

8:51 Speaker 3: it started.

8:51 Speaker 4: Eight pages.

8:52 Speaker 1: Wow.

8:53 Speaker 3: I had five hundred copies made and I hand stapled

8:56 Speaker 3: them at my kitchen table and then I drove them

8:59 Speaker 3: around and that's how it started. The coveted first issue

9:03 Speaker 3: and it features our friend Wendy Gagnan Poor who says,

9:07 Speaker 3: meet the singer in three bands. But Wendy's in three bands,

9:10 Speaker 3: so I asked her to be on our first cover

9:13 Speaker 3: and it took off from there. So eight pages turned

9:16 Speaker 3: into twelve, and twelve turned into sixteen. So I decided

9:21 Speaker 3: I couldn't handstaple that many cops anymore. So I found

9:25 Speaker 3: a local printer right in Rochester, who are fabulous, and

9:28 Speaker 3: so the magazines are now printed by Lilac City Printing

9:33 Speaker 3: in Rochester.

9:34 Speaker 2: And they hate the name and and they gave.

9:36 Speaker 1: Us the paper jam. Yeah, a printer's nightmare. Yeah, it was.

9:41 Speaker 3: It was really funny because the printer took us back

9:43 Speaker 3: and showed us this giant machine that they print the

9:46 Speaker 3: magazines on, and they said, we we we really hate

9:50 Speaker 3: it when we get a paper jam. It was really funny.

9:54 Speaker 3: But anyway, so it kept expanding and expanding, and.

9:58 Speaker 5: Actually it started out quarter it was the idea oh okay,

10:02 Speaker 5: and within I think the second issue if there was

10:06 Speaker 5: so much clamor that, we were like, okay, we have

10:08 Speaker 5: to at least go bi monthly. Yeah, and so we've

10:10 Speaker 5: been bi monthly ever since. So it's just been on

10:13 Speaker 5: getting bigger more and.

10:15 Speaker 4: We love it.

10:15 Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun.

10:16 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever do you ever

10:20 Speaker 1: have moments where you go, wow, this is uh, this

10:23 Speaker 1: is a lot of work, Like I mean, I assume,

10:26 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have do you have help with

10:27 Speaker 1: or do you do this all yourselves?

10:29 Speaker 5: That's all Sheila. Oh that's Sheila. I'm like a musical consultant. Yeah, yeah,

10:34 Speaker 5: that's and she does all the really heavy living.

10:36 Speaker 3: I say, Tony, what what type of gear? Did he

10:39 Speaker 3: say that he plays? And that helps me with that.

10:42 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's all me for now. I could really

10:44 Speaker 3: use some staff. Yeah, but I'm not complaining. It's it's

10:50 Speaker 3: been a great thing and we have one of the

10:52 Speaker 3: best music communities and it's really.

10:56 Speaker 5: It's a lot of fun because it's really a lot

10:58 Speaker 5: of fun. We have these bands come over the house.

11:00 Speaker 5: We had our basement don on my band practice, so

11:02 Speaker 5: it's a full practice space. Yeah, so they come over,

11:05 Speaker 5: we have our interview with them. A lot of times

11:07 Speaker 5: they'll play we you know, talk guitars and all that

11:11 Speaker 5: kind of stuff. But it's just great to meet all

11:13 Speaker 5: the people and we always spend a few hours with them.

11:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always a good time.

11:17 Speaker 3: So usually Sunday's is paper jam interview day, Okay, So

11:21 Speaker 3: Sunday we'll prepare. We finished our basement. We call it

11:24 Speaker 3: the R and R Lounge, right, Russo and Russo and

11:28 Speaker 3: so you know, it kind of looks like a little

11:30 Speaker 3: pub down there with a live jam space. So we

11:33 Speaker 3: usually an interview, you know, the when the band arrives,

11:37 Speaker 3: we greet them outside, we bring them in and we

11:40 Speaker 3: have some food and snacks. We give them a little

11:42 Speaker 3: tour of the guitar lounge.

11:44 Speaker 2: And then I have a guitar room.

11:46 Speaker 3: Okay, and then we start with the interview. And when

11:49 Speaker 3: we start with like a speed round and we have

11:52 Speaker 3: some fun and there's usually a lot of laughs, great time.

11:55 Speaker 1: So what's your process for the interview? Do you do

11:57 Speaker 1: you record it? Do you record audio of it?

11:59 Speaker 3: And then I actually literally type, I type while they answer, kidd,

12:05 Speaker 3: I do.

12:05 Speaker 2: I type super fast fast?

12:09 Speaker 3: Yet I do type their answers as they're okayring the

12:14 Speaker 3: questions and and then so I have not recorded any

12:18 Speaker 3: of the interviews. However, that road we're gonna We're going

12:23 Speaker 3: to start zoom interviews. On August eighteenth, we have our

12:26 Speaker 3: first zoom interview. Because what happens is some of the

12:29 Speaker 3: bands who want to be in paper Gam live two

12:32 Speaker 3: or more hours away in New Hampshire. Yea uh, and

12:36 Speaker 3: so I don't expect everyone to travel that far. So

12:41 Speaker 3: I decided to start zoom interviews, and that comes with

12:44 Speaker 3: the capability of recording. So then that's when I'll start recording.

12:48 Speaker 1: Okay, and then when you do that, will you will

12:51 Speaker 1: you post uh the video of that as kind of like, uh.

12:56 Speaker 3: I hadn't thought I hadn't thought that far ahead. Yeah, expertly.

13:01 Speaker 3: I think that'd be a lot of fun because.

13:02 Speaker 5: Is always the inevitably somebody say something, Oh, don't put

13:06 Speaker 5: that in don't put that.

13:06 Speaker 2: In there right right?

13:08 Speaker 5: Yeah.

13:08 Speaker 3: We have this running joke that everybody says, strike that

13:11 Speaker 3: from the record don't.

13:12 Speaker 1: Put that, yeah, because I'm you know, I'm thinking that'd

13:16 Speaker 1: be a good you know, a good teaser to get

13:17 Speaker 1: you know, before the issue comes out. Put little little

13:21 Speaker 1: clips on YouTube, Facebook and yeah, absolutely, And.

13:24 Speaker 3: So some of the bands play when they come to

13:26 Speaker 3: their interview in our in our jam space and some don't. Yeah,

13:31 Speaker 3: but we love it either way. Everyone who comes, any

13:34 Speaker 3: band who comes as welcome to play a few songs.

13:36 Speaker 2: Yeah.

13:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, and sometimes we'll put some of that up yeah.

13:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So oh that's amazing. Yeah, that's that's that's fantastic. Now,

13:46 Speaker 1: So what is the criteria in terms of artists who

13:49 Speaker 1: are in Paper Jam? Do you do you focus on

13:53 Speaker 1: New Hampshire or is it is.

13:57 Speaker 2: New Hampshire.

13:58 Speaker 5: We started out just trying to keep a local local

14:00 Speaker 5: are like Rochester, Dover.

14:02 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because we didn't you know.

14:03 Speaker 5: We don't have that much money to pay for you know,

14:06 Speaker 5: a million pages and it's a lot of work. So

14:10 Speaker 5: we started out that way and as it's grown, more

14:13 Speaker 5: and more people from further away are getting into it.

14:17 Speaker 5: The whole idea though, is that there is we support

14:20 Speaker 5: any and all music, you know what I mean, There

14:22 Speaker 5: are no I don't care if it's your first day

14:24 Speaker 5: playing guitar, or you've been playing for years, So all

14:27 Speaker 5: level of music it is or it doesn't matter, and it.

14:30 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if your country, pop, jazz, all levels, it's

14:35 Speaker 3: all inclusive.

14:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, who is just to support everybody.

14:39 Speaker 3: We are getting contacted by bands outside of New Hampshire's

14:44 Speaker 3: maybe been one of the more difficult parts is I

14:46 Speaker 3: don't want to say no to anybody. But at the

14:48 Speaker 3: same time, there are so many local bands that I

14:52 Speaker 3: still are on our list. So I have a list

14:54 Speaker 3: called bands in Line. Unfortunately there is a waiting list

14:59 Speaker 3: and we're full through much of twenty twenty five.

15:02 Speaker 1: Oh wow.

15:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, So so the bands have been roll patient and

15:06 Speaker 3: understanding that they have to wait in a little bit

15:08 Speaker 3: of a line.

15:09 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:09 Speaker 3: So that's a good problem to have, yeah, I think.

15:13 Speaker 3: But when I start hearing from bands in other states,

15:17 Speaker 3: that's when I have to kind of think about New

15:21 Speaker 3: Hampshire based for now.

15:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that's only gonna obviously as you you know,

15:26 Speaker 1: as you continue to grow, Uh, that'll that'll probably continue

15:30 Speaker 1: to intensify, I would, right, and especially now with the

15:32 Speaker 1: website too, you're gonna be probably probably already are hearing

15:36 Speaker 1: from a lot more.

15:37 Speaker 3: Yeap, Yes, it's a very busy mail box.

15:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.

15:40 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:40 Speaker 2: That.

15:40 Speaker 5: One of the things that Sheila came up with, because

15:43 Speaker 5: we can't have all these bands from everywhere at this point,

15:46 Speaker 5: is that if they contact us and we can't necessarily

15:49 Speaker 5: put them in, she does like a spotlight special on

15:52 Speaker 5: the website and put something together for an advertisement something.

15:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, I put.

15:56 Speaker 3: Together a little video for them that way, pop it

16:00 Speaker 3: up on our Facebook page so that they had a

16:04 Speaker 3: bit so that they can be have a spotlight but

16:06 Speaker 3: not necessarily end up in the pages of the magazine.

16:09 Speaker 1: Oh okay.

16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah.

16:10 Speaker 3: That was my way of sort of like not saying.

16:12 Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, that's good. That's good. And tell me

16:17 Speaker 1: about getting on the cover, Like is there in terms

16:21 Speaker 1: of who gets on the cover, Like what is the

16:23 Speaker 1: decision making process there? And is there a criteria like

16:27 Speaker 1: when you put like obviously day to attend, you know,

16:29 Speaker 1: they certainly deserve to be on the cover. And yes

16:31 Speaker 1: they do. I'm so glad that you did that. But

16:33 Speaker 1: and I know they are too, because they you know,

16:35 Speaker 1: they speak very highly of paper jam and and what

16:37 Speaker 1: you're doing. But like, how does that work? Getting on

16:41 Speaker 1: the cover?

16:43 Speaker 3: Getting on the cover. I think people believe it's because

16:48 Speaker 3: we personally love that band the most, or that we

16:51 Speaker 3: think they're better, or when in fact, it has not

16:55 Speaker 3: very little to do with that. It has something to

16:57 Speaker 3: do with that, because y'all know I love Day two Tense.

17:00 Speaker 3: They're going on the cover.

17:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, But all of.

17:04 Speaker 3: The bands that have been on the cover, and all

17:05 Speaker 3: of the bands that have been in the pages of

17:08 Speaker 3: Paper Gym, they're all equal to us. We don't play favorites. Yeah,

17:12 Speaker 3: it's it actually boils down to mostly timing. Who who

17:17 Speaker 3: reached out first, right, and I said, oh, I don't

17:20 Speaker 3: have anyone for my cover next month. Uh, And it's

17:23 Speaker 3: a band that draws a big crowd, big following.

17:27 Speaker 5: Another thing factor is if they have like a CD

17:30 Speaker 5: just coming out.

17:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so.

17:32 Speaker 3: If you've got a CD coming out, or if you

17:34 Speaker 3: signed a you know, we had one band who signed

17:36 Speaker 3: a production deal and they're on our cover. Vigil great

17:40 Speaker 3: metal band.

17:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, great guy. Yeah yeah. Craig and those

17:47 Speaker 1: guys on the show. He hasn't been on for a

17:48 Speaker 1: very long time, but he's yeah, he's been on. Yeah.

17:52 Speaker 3: So really it's about timing. Who contacts us first. If

17:56 Speaker 3: you know, if you contact me in January, I'm not

17:59 Speaker 3: going to make you wait. You know you you got

18:01 Speaker 3: in first. So it's a combination of timing, what's what's new,

18:06 Speaker 3: what's in the news for you, what can we report on?

18:09 Speaker 3: And also you know, who's Who's Who's a big band yea,

18:13 Speaker 3: but some of the other bands that have been in

18:16 Speaker 3: the not on the cover are also cover worthy, And

18:20 Speaker 3: we we had a saying where we're like, there's only

18:22 Speaker 3: one cover and there's so many bands.

18:24 Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious, I mean, is it ever a hard decision?

18:26 Speaker 3: It is a hard decision bands like Middleman or Standard

18:30 Speaker 3: Tuning or you know, bands like you know, they're fantastic

18:35 Speaker 3: and we only have one cover.

18:37 Speaker 1: So yeah.

18:38 Speaker 5: Sometimes too, what we'll try and do is whether it's

18:41 Speaker 5: the issue, if it's a different issue before they're going

18:44 Speaker 5: to be in it. Sometimes we'll give them the back cover.

18:47 Speaker 5: Oh okay, so you know it's not the cover, but

18:50 Speaker 5: it's cover. So or if we're going to tease something,

18:53 Speaker 5: you know, like a band coming in the next issue,

18:56 Speaker 5: or we might put that on the back cover or

18:58 Speaker 5: something like that.

19:00 Speaker 3: So on the on the back cover of our day

19:02 Speaker 3: to attend issue, you'll see it has Cathedral tribute to

19:06 Speaker 3: Van Halen. Okay, so they're next on our cover.

19:09 Speaker 1: Oh cool.

19:10 Speaker 3: So so they're they're a great band.

19:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, great gitar player, the bass player is super cool.

19:17 Speaker 1: They're called Cathedral.

19:18 Speaker 3: Cathedral attribute to the music of Van Halen. Fantastic Okay,

19:22 Speaker 3: featuring Tyler Morris doing all that Eddie van halenk He's fantastic.

19:27 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're looking forward to that one.

19:30 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. And how many of these? So

19:34 Speaker 1: you've got this this Girl's Rock where you know, obviously

19:38 Speaker 1: you've got a montage of of female musicians on the cover,

19:42 Speaker 1: so it's a special edition. Have you done more than

19:45 Speaker 1: one of these special editions where instead of you know,

19:48 Speaker 1: just putting one artist, where you that's.

19:49 Speaker 3: The only one so far?

19:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:52 Speaker 3: That was a very popular issue.

19:53 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent.

19:56 Speaker 3: We'd Afford actually saw the Girl's Rock issue. Yes, we

20:00 Speaker 3: had a friend bring bring it to the Lead Afford

20:02 Speaker 3: show and I have a picture of her looking at it.

20:04 Speaker 3: And then we've also had Zach Wilde read paper jam

20:08 Speaker 3: and sign it for us. Yeah, that was a fun moment.

20:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about that off air. He gave

20:13 Speaker 1: you some. He gave you some some meritles because you know,

20:17 Speaker 1: because congratulations, it's been what eight months? Yeah? Thanks, less

20:20 Speaker 1: than a year, it's still new, right, yeah? Yeah? Can

20:26 Speaker 1: you can you tell us what he told you? Or

20:27 Speaker 1: is that not appropriate for radio?

20:29 Speaker 2: No?

20:29 Speaker 3: Actually, Tony, we love the story, so I'm sure would

20:33 Speaker 3: be happy to tell you.

20:33 Speaker 4: What Zach told us.

20:34 Speaker 5: Okay, He basically said, just use the word i'm sorry.

20:39 Speaker 5: Be ready to say i'm sorry, right, you know, like

20:43 Speaker 5: my wife's never going to leave it, so I just

20:44 Speaker 5: say I'm sorry.

20:46 Speaker 1: It was really funny about it.

20:47 Speaker 2: It was hilarious.

20:48 Speaker 5: And then he's like, so you say you're sorry, and

20:49 Speaker 5: then just say do you want to go get some coffee?

20:52 Speaker 5: And you know, you go and just you know, that's

20:55 Speaker 5: whatever problem it is to roll off your back right right.

20:58 Speaker 3: Basically, and he said, go go have a coffee, move on,

21:02 Speaker 3: have a happy life.

21:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he wrote that all.

21:04 Speaker 3: He wrote it on the guitar case.

21:05 Speaker 2: Which is funny because we've actually used the advice.

21:08 Speaker 5: Yeah something, Yeah.

21:11 Speaker 3: You want to have a cup of coffee? And I

21:13 Speaker 3: go yes, and then we're good and then we say

21:16 Speaker 3: thank you Zach Wild.

21:17 Speaker 2: Yes, he's a really nice guy though, that's what I've heard.

21:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, well Jenny, you met you met Zach.

21:22 Speaker 4: Wild right with yes, right here in Manchester. Yeah, when

21:27 Speaker 4: he was six, his sixteenth.

21:28 Speaker 6: Birthday present was surprise tickets to VIP tickets to the

21:32 Speaker 6: Black Label Society concert here in Manchester.

21:35 Speaker 4: It was awesome. Yeah, awesome, he told Jesse. I was

21:37 Speaker 4: really then.

21:38 Speaker 6: He had a really cool mom, so I was like

21:40 Speaker 6: really excited about that.

21:41 Speaker 1: When they were at it mustn't it was soil the

21:43 Speaker 1: Rizing Center then, right was that yeah? Snow? Yeah?

21:46 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, it wasn't snow back then, yeah, back then, listen,

21:52 Speaker 6: but it was an amazing concert. It was an amazing

21:54 Speaker 6: it was. It was definitely worth it a hundred percent.

21:57 Speaker 6: And I think the money from the VIP was going

22:00 Speaker 6: to a children's hospital or something like that.

22:03 Speaker 4: It wasn't. The band wasn't keeping it. It was all

22:05 Speaker 4: getting donated.

22:06 Speaker 6: I'm not surprised by Yeah, no, it doesn't surprise me

22:09 Speaker 6: at all either.

22:10 Speaker 4: But that made it even more sweet to do the VIP, knowing.

22:13 Speaker 6: Where the when he was going. Oh yeah, yeah no.

22:16 Speaker 6: It was an incredible concert. Definitely great memory. I still

22:19 Speaker 6: wear my t shirt.

22:21 Speaker 1: Now, So Tony, I'm curious when when you're you know,

22:24 Speaker 1: obviously you're in a couple of bands. I assume you're

22:26 Speaker 1: out playing a lot of shows. Do do do people

22:30 Speaker 1: from other bands ever try to kind of lean on you, like, hey,

22:33 Speaker 1: get us into Paper Jam, Oh yeah, get us on

22:35 Speaker 1: the cover. We want to be on the cover, like.

22:37 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all the time, and the answer is always yes,

22:42 Speaker 5: we'll get you in there.

22:43 Speaker 1: Yeah.

22:43 Speaker 2: Well I don't know exactly when, but yeah.

22:46 Speaker 5: We don't really say no to anybody, and it's just

22:49 Speaker 5: again a matter of timing that. One of the coolest

22:52 Speaker 5: parts for me about all this is that, you know,

22:54 Speaker 5: meeting all these guys from all these different bands.

22:57 Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of them.

22:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so we out, we see them, these bands play,

23:01 Speaker 5: We get to meet everybody. But then I see faces

23:04 Speaker 5: that from the other band's showing up see me play,

23:06 Speaker 5: which is always you know, it's it's again comes back

23:09 Speaker 5: to just an awesome community. But it's really cool when

23:13 Speaker 5: I see people that I've met through Paper Jam out

23:16 Speaker 5: in the crowd, I'm like, oh, you get to see

23:18 Speaker 5: me play now?

23:19 Speaker 2: Cool? Thanks? You know.

23:21 Speaker 1: You know what else is.

23:21 Speaker 3: Really cool is when Tony's playing a show or we

23:25 Speaker 3: go to a show and we look out in the

23:27 Speaker 3: crowd and there's always a handful of people in a

23:29 Speaker 3: paper Jam shirt or a paper Jam hat, or or

23:32 Speaker 3: they're walking around picking up the issue because we leave

23:35 Speaker 3: them at the music venues. Usually when we go to

23:39 Speaker 3: see a show, we bring copies with us.

23:41 Speaker 4: The venues are so.

23:43 Speaker 3: So cool, gracious and cool to let us put them there,

23:46 Speaker 3: and so we have a lot of drop sites around,

23:50 Speaker 3: but I definitely like the music venues, and so we

23:52 Speaker 3: bring copies and see these strangers wearing a shirt or

23:56 Speaker 3: reading the magazine, and it's a pretty good feeling. And

23:58 Speaker 3: then the next thing you know, you see them at

24:00 Speaker 3: you see him again, and I don't know, We've met

24:01 Speaker 3: so many great people through this.

24:03 Speaker 5: It's oh, it's hilarious because some of the people will

24:06 Speaker 5: send pictures, Oh, I'm in Mexico at the beach and

24:08 Speaker 5: where they're wearing their paper.

24:09 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we have this we have around the world,

24:12 Speaker 3: the paper We have this thing whereas where is paper Jam.

24:15 Speaker 3: So when they when they travel, they send me a

24:18 Speaker 3: pic in their shirts and tell me where they're where

24:21 Speaker 3: they're from, somewhere in the world.

24:22 Speaker 1: Very cool, kind of fun, very cool. How do people

24:24 Speaker 1: get the shirts. Do they order them online or you can?

24:27 Speaker 3: We have men's and ladies shirts, and just got some tank.

24:31 Speaker 2: Tops and yeah, stickers and.

24:34 Speaker 3: Yeah we have stickers, key change all kinds of merch and.

24:37 Speaker 1: How many how many drop locations do you have? I

24:41 Speaker 1: assume that's grown over this, it has grown.

24:43 Speaker 3: I think we started with like, you know, six seven, eight,

24:45 Speaker 3: and now I believe there's over thirty. And I think,

24:51 Speaker 3: you know, definitely want to give a shout out to

24:53 Speaker 3: a friend of ours named Jim. Jim Antonino. He came

24:57 Speaker 3: into the Paper Jam circle and has really been huge

25:03 Speaker 3: and super supportive and helping us get ads. So we

25:07 Speaker 3: weren't selling ads the first year and a half too.

25:12 Speaker 3: This is also kind of recent. Jim has been very

25:15 Speaker 3: helpful in helping us sell ads and find new locations

25:19 Speaker 3: to put Paper Jam magazine excellent and we appreciate him

25:22 Speaker 3: very Yeah, so I was sort of sticking to you know,

25:27 Speaker 3: it's a hobby. You know, I'm not trying to make money.

25:30 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to, you know, help the bands get

25:33 Speaker 3: some recognition that they deserve. And then Jim came and said,

25:36 Speaker 3: you have a really good model going here. Let me

25:38 Speaker 3: see where we can take this, and so he has

25:42 Speaker 3: helped us so much. I appreciate you, Jim very much.

25:45 Speaker 3: And so we've sold a few ads and we're.

25:49 Speaker 5: Just I have to give this a shout out to us.

25:51 Speaker 5: Got a big hit guitars as well, he was one

25:53 Speaker 5: of the first.

25:55 Speaker 3: Got a big hit guitars. Awesome guitar.

26:00 Speaker 2: Okay, real nice stuff.

26:01 Speaker 5: He's got the whole range, but he's got some real

26:03 Speaker 5: nice high end excellent.

26:05 Speaker 3: So even though it's just us in one sense, it's

26:07 Speaker 3: really not just us because we've had help along the way.

26:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's outstanding. By the way, Jay Bellow, who

26:14 Speaker 1: I'm sure you all know from Chasing the Devil, he's

26:18 Speaker 1: in the chat room. He says, thank you all so

26:20 Speaker 1: much for what you do for local music and musicians.

26:23 Speaker 2: Thank you very nice. Yeah.

26:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Jeff Richards, of course from day to attend, says

26:29 Speaker 1: black Label played Chantillies in Manchester once with Robert on bass,

26:33 Speaker 1: who is in Metallica.

26:34 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, wow, they played. Wow.

26:37 Speaker 1: I remember I remember going to a lot of shows

26:39 Speaker 1: back in the day of Chantillies, that's for sure. That

26:41 Speaker 1: must have been when black label society was just starting out.

26:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would have been way back.

26:47 Speaker 1: I had to be way back.

26:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, early two thousands probably.

26:50 Speaker 1: I still remember the first time I ever saw Zach

26:52 Speaker 1: Wild when he was I think it was in the

26:54 Speaker 1: Ozzie's No More Tears video. Yeah, he was very different then.

27:00 Speaker 2: He looks very that's I fell in love with. Yeah

27:03 Speaker 2: More Tears era.

27:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Theodore of Madness tour at the Orphean okay,

27:07 Speaker 5: this one, and it was you know, a small locations actual.

27:10 Speaker 5: I was just starting to play the guitar. Yeah, so

27:13 Speaker 5: he just absolutely floored me. Yeah, like I want to

27:15 Speaker 5: I want to do that.

27:16 Speaker 2: Yeah.

27:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've never looked back. I've been obsessed with

27:19 Speaker 5: the guitar ever since.

27:19 Speaker 2: Oh no kidding, Yeah, yeah.

27:21 Speaker 1: Tom Siracusa from uh of course out dat to attend,

27:24 Speaker 1: says paper Jam supports young musicians as well.

27:27 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, grim Rock is.

27:29 Speaker 1: In the Facebook live chat, our friend from Pennsylvania by

27:32 Speaker 1: the way, so in the coming up in the third hour. So, uh,

27:35 Speaker 1: he sends us a lot of cool stuff. And we

27:37 Speaker 1: have not opened this package yet. But this package here

27:40 Speaker 1: that I'm holding, we're going to oh this is from

27:42 Speaker 1: Grim from our friend Grim Rock and Pa, and we're

27:45 Speaker 1: going to open that in the Uh, I mean we

27:47 Speaker 1: know what it is, right, I do. I mean it's

27:49 Speaker 1: it's obviously I assume it's a CD.

27:52 Speaker 4: I know you know you know what it is, but

27:54 Speaker 4: I'm not telling you.

27:55 Speaker 1: And we're going to open that up today and the

27:57 Speaker 1: third hour live on the air, So looking forward to that.

27:59 Speaker 1: He but no, he's amazing. But and he says, hey, hey,

28:04 Speaker 1: hope everyone's day rocks.

28:07 Speaker 6: I have grim stickers along with my data Aten stickers. Yes,

28:12 Speaker 6: and I'm wearing a Data to Attend T shirt.

28:14 Speaker 1: Yes that's true. Yes she is. Jen.

28:17 Speaker 3: I really wish I brought you paper jam stickers. I'm

28:21 Speaker 3: going to send you some.

28:23 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love stickers.

28:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jenny loves the stickers.

28:25 Speaker 3: Yeah.

28:25 Speaker 1: You can see on if you're watching live on Facebook,

28:27 Speaker 1: you can see Jenny's.

28:28 Speaker 6: That's just one part of my laptop. They're on the

28:30 Speaker 6: bottom too. Yeah, they're on everything. I'm a sticker.

28:34 Speaker 1: Jenny's got a lot of stickers.

28:35 Speaker 6: Jesse, he inherited that from me too. He's he's now

28:37 Speaker 6: stickering up his guitar case.

28:39 Speaker 4: Oh okay, on a mission.

28:41 Speaker 3: Speaking of the stickers, when the bands come for their interviews,

28:46 Speaker 3: they bring so much merch and they're so generous and

28:49 Speaker 3: so we too ended up with a large pile of

28:53 Speaker 3: band stickers, which we love. I was trying to think

28:56 Speaker 3: what to do with them. So we went out and

28:58 Speaker 3: we bought like this huge poster board and we made

29:02 Speaker 3: like a wall of stickers that great, so we filled it,

29:06 Speaker 3: so I got to start a new one. But they

29:08 Speaker 3: bring us all kinds of great, great thing CD shirts.

29:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

29:14 Speaker 4: It's fantastic.

29:16 Speaker 1: We used to have something like that in the old

29:17 Speaker 1: studio because we've we've only been here when did we

29:19 Speaker 1: move here October November of last year. But when we

29:23 Speaker 1: were in our when W. M and H was on

29:25 Speaker 1: our Elm Street location, we had a wall where you know,

29:28 Speaker 1: you could put stickers sign it and but uh, but

29:31 Speaker 1: now that we're in this nice new place, is really

29:33 Speaker 1: not not a place for that. You know, if somebody

29:37 Speaker 1: pulled out a sharpie and signed the wall here, I'd

29:39 Speaker 1: get fired. But we but we had a Yeah, we

29:41 Speaker 1: had a really cool thing where you know, you could

29:43 Speaker 1: do that. But no, that's a great idea though.

29:45 Speaker 5: The Rochester Opera House is cool about that in the

29:48 Speaker 5: back back part of the stage. Yeah, all the bands

29:51 Speaker 5: that have played there get to sign it. Yeah, right, yeah,

29:54 Speaker 5: and a lot of the venues will have something like that. Yes,

29:57 Speaker 5: you know, we'll have a sticker, you know. Oh yeah,

29:59 Speaker 5: stick it's always a fight bands again.

30:03 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my sticker over there.

30:05 Speaker 1: I used to see that a lot in Boston, like

30:07 Speaker 1: when I was really active promoting live shows. I would

30:09 Speaker 1: see that at a lot of the Boston venues, and

30:11 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of them still have it where

30:13 Speaker 1: it just you know, just covered in stickers, you know,

30:16 Speaker 1: going back decades, you know, and you could kind of

30:19 Speaker 1: you could kind of look at it and try to

30:20 Speaker 1: pick out Oh wow, I remember that band, and I

30:22 Speaker 1: remember that.

30:23 Speaker 2: Do you remember Sarah Morgan's cove inster.

30:27 Speaker 1: It sounds familiar.

30:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're playing the fameous The Rolling Stones played there

30:30 Speaker 5: once and Narrow anyways, it was.

30:33 Speaker 2: It was a cool place. It's gone now, like many

30:35 Speaker 2: of them unfortunately.

30:36 Speaker 1: Yeah.

30:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, Middle East Ts, all those places, they

30:39 Speaker 5: all had stuff like that.

30:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of places come and go. Now. So

30:46 Speaker 1: do you ever feature anyone, or have you ever featured

30:48 Speaker 1: anyone in the publication who's not necessarily a musician but

30:50 Speaker 1: is doing something else, like maybe someone who owns the

30:53 Speaker 1: venue or.

30:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. We actually, in addition to

30:57 Speaker 3: UH band interviews, we also spotlight articles and there's a

31:02 Speaker 3: website for female drummers called Drummer Girls United. I think

31:06 Speaker 3: it has about seven thousand female drummer members and from

31:12 Speaker 3: that site, I have interviewed separately three female drummers, so

31:18 Speaker 3: we did spotlight on them, and then we've also done

31:21 Speaker 3: a spotlight on a few venues that feature live music,

31:25 Speaker 3: and I love to do spotlight articles. In the next issue,

31:29 Speaker 3: there'll be one with Scott from Big Hit Guitars that

31:31 Speaker 3: we mentioned previously, spotlight his new guitar shop. Because it's fantastic.

31:38 Speaker 2: It's bad for me because it's too.

31:39 Speaker 3: We tried the magazine. We try to include band interviews,

31:44 Speaker 3: and then we try to include some music related articles,

31:47 Speaker 3: maybe about gear or how to promote your CD, songwriting lyrics,

31:53 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, and then we have the spotlight articles,

31:56 Speaker 3: which are generally shorter, and then we also add in

32:01 Speaker 3: some jokes and some trivia and some fun stuff and seem.

32:07 Speaker 4: To like it.

32:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a good time.

32:09 Speaker 1: Do you have do you have a number of is like,

32:13 Speaker 1: is there a number of artists that you try to

32:14 Speaker 1: have in every is there like a minimum threshold of

32:17 Speaker 1: artists that you try to have in each issue.

32:19 Speaker 3: They started with two per issue, and it went and

32:21 Speaker 3: it went to three, and now in this day to

32:23 Speaker 3: attend issue there's four bands. Yeah, but we did four

32:27 Speaker 3: full interviews. Yeah, And when it comes to the interviews,

32:32 Speaker 3: we try to find an angle. When the band arrives

32:35 Speaker 3: and we get situated, I let them know, like, as

32:38 Speaker 3: we talk through this interview, I need to find an

32:40 Speaker 3: angle for your band, because otherwise it's all going to

32:43 Speaker 3: sound the same, right, So I often ask tell me

32:46 Speaker 3: about your background, what's your experience, how'd you learn to

32:50 Speaker 3: play music?

32:51 Speaker 4: Or I'll say, uh, what venues.

32:53 Speaker 1: Have you played?

32:54 Speaker 3: Or who influenced you? All of those questions are often

32:59 Speaker 3: the same for every band, but it would all start

33:01 Speaker 3: to sound alike if we didn't find an angle, right,

33:04 Speaker 3: And luckily there always seems to be one, which is

33:07 Speaker 3: some band is you know, one band's coming out with

33:10 Speaker 3: a new album, or one band is brand new on

33:12 Speaker 3: the scene and they're trying to make a name for themselves.

33:15 Speaker 3: That's their angle, the new band on the scene. Or

33:20 Speaker 3: there's a band that's you know, all females, or there's

33:24 Speaker 3: a band that's made up of teenagers, like a band

33:27 Speaker 3: we featured in the Day to Attend issue. Tom Syracuse's daughter,

33:32 Speaker 3: Hannah Rose, is fifteen and she's a fabulous drummer and

33:36 Speaker 3: she's in bands, and so we featured her in there

33:40 Speaker 3: as well. So we try to find the angle so

33:43 Speaker 3: that it all doesn't sound the same. Hopefully it's working.

33:47 Speaker 1: Do you have prior experience interviewing or working in pr

33:51 Speaker 1: because what you just said, not everyone knows that. And

33:55 Speaker 1: it's evidence that not everyone knows that because you'll see

33:57 Speaker 1: a lot of people who do interviews who do that

34:00 Speaker 1: just asked the same old questions where are you from?

34:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you from?

34:03 Speaker 1: What kind of music do you play? You know? So

34:06 Speaker 1: so to know that, I mean, is that just something

34:08 Speaker 1: you knew instinctively or do you have prior experience?

34:11 Speaker 3: I don't have prior experience in interviewing or or anything

34:15 Speaker 3: like that. But but I've always been a writer, okay,

34:18 Speaker 3: and so I like, I have a book of short

34:20 Speaker 3: stories of written novels, Like I I've always been a writer.

34:25 Speaker 3: So I think from that I learned some of that

34:29 Speaker 3: some of you know, yeah.

34:30 Speaker 1: Because it was obvious, like looking like looking at the

34:32 Speaker 1: day to attend article. It was like, okay, you know

34:35 Speaker 1: how to interview because not everyone does, a lot of

34:38 Speaker 1: people try and they don't really know how to do it.

34:40 Speaker 2: Does a great job.

34:40 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I'm just sort of like the comedic value,

34:42 Speaker 5: you know, comedic value to the whole.

34:44 Speaker 1: Thing right right.

34:46 Speaker 3: Now, another part of another thing put out the snacks, Well,

34:53 Speaker 3: somebody asked you.

34:56 Speaker 1: So.

34:59 Speaker 2: So.

34:59 Speaker 3: Another thing that interesting about the articles is that some

35:02 Speaker 3: of them are written in a question and answer format,

35:05 Speaker 3: and other articles are written, you know, just straight out

35:10 Speaker 3: like about the band versus questioning and so someone asked

35:15 Speaker 3: me one time, like, how do you decide you know,

35:17 Speaker 3: and I just said, it depends on the feel of

35:21 Speaker 3: the band, what we're going to talk about. Some bands

35:24 Speaker 3: feel more like a question and answer type interview. I

35:27 Speaker 3: can't really say why.

35:28 Speaker 2: It just it's a.

35:29 Speaker 3: Feeling and it depends on the angle we want to

35:32 Speaker 3: talk about. So, and then I love to get the

35:35 Speaker 3: poll quotes. I call them. The poll quotes are inevitably,

35:38 Speaker 3: someone during the interview will say something profound or interesting

35:43 Speaker 3: that stands out to me, and I'll make a little

35:45 Speaker 3: note like this would make a great poll quote. And

35:48 Speaker 3: then as you flip through the pages of paper Jam

35:50 Speaker 3: you'll see a lot of that, Like you'll see a

35:53 Speaker 3: band member's photo and then usually like a great quote

35:55 Speaker 3: that they gave us. And so I'm kind of fortunate

35:59 Speaker 3: because the band make it easy for us. They have

36:01 Speaker 3: so much to say and and they're great.

36:04 Speaker 1: Is there anyone who's really surprised you? I mean, I'm

36:07 Speaker 1: sure there are, like who you interviewed them and they

36:11 Speaker 1: wound up being way more interesting than you expected, Like

36:14 Speaker 1: they just had a backstory that really maybe when in

36:18 Speaker 1: a direction you weren't.

36:19 Speaker 5: Expect all the time, Almost every time, really some sort

36:22 Speaker 5: of surprise that you like, even day two attend those

36:26 Speaker 5: guys again wickednized guys, but they all pulled together from

36:29 Speaker 5: all these different situations they were in over a long

36:33 Speaker 5: period of time. And you know, it's just but almost

36:36 Speaker 5: every band gives us some sort of we didn't expect that,

36:40 Speaker 5: which is really cool. Yeah, and you find out somebody

36:42 Speaker 5: was like, oh, I was an opera singer. I didn't

36:45 Speaker 5: didn't see that one coming right right right, you know,

36:47 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. So it's always it's always an

36:50 Speaker 5: interesting time.

36:51 Speaker 1: And isn't that one of them? Like I feel like

36:53 Speaker 1: for me as as someone who interviews people. That's like

36:55 Speaker 1: one of the best things I love when somebody says

36:59 Speaker 1: something to me I complete he wasn't expecting, or they

37:01 Speaker 1: reveal something about me that just like, wow, I didn't

37:03 Speaker 1: see that coming. That just makes it so much more rewarding,

37:07 Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

37:07 Speaker 3: I'll have to say that one of the questions I

37:10 Speaker 3: like to ask is do you have any hobbies or

37:11 Speaker 3: interests outside of music? Because they're all here to talk

37:15 Speaker 3: about their instruments and their music and experience. But sometimes

37:18 Speaker 3: I'm just curious to know what do you like to

37:20 Speaker 3: do when you're not doing music. And that's where it

37:23 Speaker 3: really gets interesting because you find out that, you know,

37:27 Speaker 3: some people are a professional chef or some people mm a, yeah, yeah,

37:33 Speaker 3: and so and so it's been really interesting to hear

37:35 Speaker 3: what they like to do outside of music. Yeah, to

37:38 Speaker 3: really get to know them, and that that surprises me. Sometimes.

37:42 Speaker 3: We had one we had one band member who told

37:45 Speaker 3: me he's made over five hundred or eight hundred I

37:48 Speaker 3: forget a very high number of sky dive jumps.

37:52 Speaker 1: Kidding.

37:53 Speaker 3: That was uh, that was Scott I think from from Stiletto.

37:58 Speaker 2: Yeah.

37:59 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I think is R two about

38:00 Speaker 1: your approaches. It kind of I think it probably uh

38:04 Speaker 1: snaps them out of because I I mean, I can

38:07 Speaker 1: kind of tell, and I'm sure you can too, when

38:09 Speaker 1: someone comes into an interview and they're sort of they

38:11 Speaker 1: have an expectation of what they're going to be asked,

38:14 Speaker 1: and they've kind of already done the interview in their

38:16 Speaker 1: own mind, you know, So it's not you know some musicians.

38:21 Speaker 1: I mean, I know from my experience sometimes I'll interview

38:23 Speaker 1: someone and they seem really spontaneous and like they're fully engaged.

38:28 Speaker 1: And some people, you know, you can kind of tell

38:30 Speaker 1: where like I said, they've already done the interview in

38:32 Speaker 1: their brain. Yeah, they're just kind of giving you the

38:34 Speaker 1: answers to the questions that they're already expecting to hear.

38:37 Speaker 1: So if you can pull them out of their shell

38:39 Speaker 1: by asking them something sort of outside of that, yeah,

38:42 Speaker 1: that's a great technique.

38:43 Speaker 3: We start with the speed round. We just throw out

38:46 Speaker 3: questions and just to break the ice, we say like

38:48 Speaker 3: Megan X or Metallica, cats are dogs, you know, Bendor Gibson,

38:54 Speaker 3: and and then and then mountains or lakes.

38:57 Speaker 2: You know, and.

39:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and then once we get through.

39:04 Speaker 2: Tattoos are piercings.

39:06 Speaker 1: You know, Jeff from day to attend says in the chat,

39:09 Speaker 1: it's amazing how Sheila compiles all that info into the

39:11 Speaker 1: amazing articles.

39:13 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jeff.

39:14 Speaker 1: How long does that take? I mean it probably varies

39:16 Speaker 1: wildly from one to the next, but I mean.

39:18 Speaker 3: It takes a long time. Yeah, it's pretty much a

39:21 Speaker 3: full time job outside of my regular full time.

39:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, the second month because we have two months, just

39:27 Speaker 5: two months.

39:27 Speaker 2: To do it.

39:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so trying to get all the interviews, and

39:30 Speaker 5: inevitably a lot of the interviews happened in the second month,

39:34 Speaker 5: So the last two three weeks of that month, it's

39:36 Speaker 5: like was like, yeah, work on it, and she's always

39:39 Speaker 5: the computer and you know, just busting a cute little

39:42 Speaker 5: bum there to uh to finish it up.

39:45 Speaker 1: Does it come out the same day of the month.

39:49 Speaker 3: It comes out at the beginning of you know, it's

39:52 Speaker 3: bi monthly, so it'll come out early in the in

39:54 Speaker 3: the new month, Okay, but it's not always the same day. Yeah,

39:58 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think the printers open on the weekend,

40:00 Speaker 3: so sometimes we have to wait till Monday.

40:02 Speaker 2: Yeah.

40:03 Speaker 5: Then of course driving it around and we both have

40:05 Speaker 5: day jobs, so yeah, you know, just trying to find

40:07 Speaker 5: the time to go distribute it and so forth. So

40:09 Speaker 5: usually within a few days of the beginning of the month.

40:12 Speaker 1: Yeah.

40:12 Speaker 3: Another thing that we do that people may not realize

40:15 Speaker 3: is that once the issue's done, so to speak, I always,

40:21 Speaker 3: I always do proofs from the printer. So I go

40:24 Speaker 3: pick up a black and white and a color proof,

40:28 Speaker 3: and I go over it page by page to make

40:30 Speaker 3: sure that the colors translate well. Yeah, and it looks

40:33 Speaker 3: good in black and white, looks good in color. Make

40:35 Speaker 3: sure there's no spelling mistakes.

40:36 Speaker 1: Yeah.

40:37 Speaker 3: And as a grammar nazi, I really have made typos before,

40:42 Speaker 3: and I didn't sleep for a week because I just

40:45 Speaker 3: don't want to make typos in my magazine. But it happens.

40:47 Speaker 3: We're all human. Yeah, But I try to go through

40:49 Speaker 3: it and check the colors and the layout and make

40:52 Speaker 3: sure it's all looking good, and before we hit what

40:54 Speaker 3: I call the go button. But once I look at

40:56 Speaker 3: the proofs, then we hit the go button and and

40:59 Speaker 3: and then the printer does their thing.

41:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you mean about grammar. I'm the

41:03 Speaker 1: same way, right, You're the same way.

41:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think I did one issue where I

41:07 Speaker 3: said something about metal mayhem and I misspelled mayhem and

41:11 Speaker 3: I didn't catch it, and it still bothers me.

41:13 Speaker 1: I would be I would be the same way in

41:15 Speaker 1: that situation, Like I I even I'm I mean, I'm

41:18 Speaker 1: I'm at the point where I'm horrified if I see

41:21 Speaker 1: something I posted on social media and I realize I'm

41:23 Speaker 1: expelled something. Yeah, and I'll go back and corrected, And

41:25 Speaker 1: most people wouldn't bother because it's just social media. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

41:34 Speaker 1: very cool. Oh we should mention too, So if you're

41:38 Speaker 1: is it everyone who's in the magazine gets a color

41:41 Speaker 1: copy or yeah, okay.

41:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, e is. We we print in black and white

41:45 Speaker 3: for our paper copies all over the community, but we

41:48 Speaker 3: always print full color copies for everyone who gets in

41:52 Speaker 3: the in the magazine.

41:53 Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody and everybody, every bandits in.

41:55 Speaker 3: Everybody in, each member gets a color copy.

41:58 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, that's really cool. Yeah yeah. Tom Russo,

42:02 Speaker 1: who was also here with us last week, a very

42:04 Speaker 1: talented musician, He says, I'd love to get in your publication.

42:07 Speaker 1: This sounds great. Do you know, Tom, I don't sing

42:11 Speaker 1: a songwriter, really.

42:12 Speaker 2: I know the name. Yeah, yeah, I know the name.

42:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's uh, he's amazing.

42:16 Speaker 2: We can get you in there.

42:17 Speaker 4: Just go ahead and get you in.

42:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, contact us.

42:20 Speaker 1: What's the best way for should they contact you through

42:23 Speaker 1: the website or on social media?

42:24 Speaker 3: What's the best way is our email box? It's uh,

42:28 Speaker 3: it's paper Jam Underscore mag m a g at yahoo

42:33 Speaker 3: dot com. So paper Jam Underscore mag at yahoo dot com.

42:37 Speaker 1: Okay, and just.

42:38 Speaker 3: Tell tell us a little bit about who you are

42:40 Speaker 3: and your band, and you know, it doesn't have to

42:42 Speaker 3: be just a band, could be solo musicians. Yeah, yeah,

42:45 Speaker 3: I would do that too. So if you'd like to

42:47 Speaker 3: be in Paper Jam, just send us an email and

42:49 Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about yourself.

42:50 Speaker 1: A lot of.

42:51 Speaker 3: Times people will send links so we can listen to

42:53 Speaker 3: the music and we can go from there.

42:56 Speaker 2: Yeah.

42:57 Speaker 3: Again, there is a bit of a waiting line. Yeah,

42:59 Speaker 3: so if you don't if you don't mind waiting a

43:01 Speaker 3: little bit, but we can make it happen.

43:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's amazing how patient a lot of these bands

43:05 Speaker 2: are sure sure is this? You know? Or some of

43:07 Speaker 2: them will be like I do want to be on

43:09 Speaker 2: the cover, and we're like, well.

43:10 Speaker 5: It's going to be like eight months yeah before that's okay, yeah,

43:13 Speaker 5: oh wait, yeah, you know, and they do and it's

43:15 Speaker 5: you know, it's great.

43:16 Speaker 2: It's every really is supportive of it.

43:19 Speaker 3: And it's a nice mix too because we have cover bands,

43:22 Speaker 3: we have original bands, and then we have tribute bands.

43:25 Speaker 3: So we've done all three and and so it's a

43:28 Speaker 3: nice mix there.

43:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding, bless you, I think, did Jesus sneeze? Yeah?

43:34 Speaker 1: Our allergies have been well, I have allergies. I don't

43:36 Speaker 1: know what your issue.

43:37 Speaker 4: I'm allergic to you.

43:38 Speaker 1: Yes, that must be what it is. That must be.

43:41 Speaker 1: Oh and before we run out of time. The time

43:43 Speaker 1: goes so quickly, it's already approaching the top of the hour.

43:45 Speaker 1: But what what do you have or do you know yet?

43:47 Speaker 1: What's what's in store for the next issue? Obviously Day

43:51 Speaker 1: two attend is on the cover.

43:52 Speaker 3: On the cover of this one yet but for next

43:53 Speaker 3: time we have Cathedral okay, the Van Halen Tribute amazing,

44:00 Speaker 3: Van Hallen Band amazing with our friend Kirk bartholomewn Kirk

44:05 Speaker 3: and Tyler Morris. We're looking at a band called down

44:10 Speaker 3: by ten, a band called dumpster Fire.

44:14 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you love that.

44:17 Speaker 3: And we're looking at Scott at Big Hit Guitars for

44:23 Speaker 3: a nice spotlight article and lots.

44:26 Speaker 1: More excellent, excellent, And who else is in the current

44:29 Speaker 1: one too? For obviously Day to A ten is on

44:31 Speaker 1: the cover. Who else you have in the current issue?

44:34 Speaker 3: We have Standard Tuning, great cover band and Sea Rock

44:40 Speaker 3: and Tainted Hearts. So Sea Rock is a band, a

44:44 Speaker 3: local cover band that came and they gave us a

44:47 Speaker 3: very memorable interview because they were hilarious and made us

44:51 Speaker 3: laugh for two hours.

44:52 Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun.

44:53 Speaker 3: They just they just great. And Tainted Hearts is the

44:57 Speaker 3: young teen band that they range in age from fifteen

45:01 Speaker 3: to seventeen. And that's who's in the current is.

45:04 Speaker 1: I think their name has come up on the show recently.

45:06 Speaker 1: I don't remember why.

45:07 Speaker 3: But Tainted Hearts is Tom syracusea of Day to Attend.

45:10 Speaker 4: That's his daughter.

45:11 Speaker 1: Oh yakay, okay, that's why. Yeah, so Tom must have

45:15 Speaker 1: mentioned that.

45:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so we were happy just for Tom.

45:20 Speaker 2: Guns and Roses are awesome.

45:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

45:23 Speaker 2: He loves Oh don't we all? I do? Who does?

45:27 Speaker 1: Or everybody? I mean they're one of those bands, I

45:29 Speaker 1: mean who doesn't I mean everybody either loves them? Or

45:31 Speaker 1: at least likes them.

45:32 Speaker 2: Yeah.

45:32 Speaker 1: You very rarely hear anyone say I don't like Guns

45:34 Speaker 1: n' Roses.

45:35 Speaker 2: No, I don't know if that's ever happened.

45:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's somebody somewhere, but

45:39 Speaker 1: it's it's unusual. Like my my favorite band is Kiss,

45:43 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of Kiss haters, Like there

45:45 Speaker 1: are a lot of people who will tell you they

45:46 Speaker 1: don't like Kiss. But uh no, guns and Roses. I

45:49 Speaker 1: don't know anyone who Jenny, guns and.

45:50 Speaker 4: Roses, not particularly you.

45:54 Speaker 1: You don't particularly like them? Yeah, see we found somebody on.

45:59 Speaker 2: She hates them either.

46:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you don't hate them, though, do you?

46:02 Speaker 4: I don't hate any musicians.

46:03 Speaker 1: Okay, do you dislike them?

46:06 Speaker 4: I'm not particularly fond of their music.

46:08 Speaker 5: No, Well, then I guess I can't say that next time.

46:15 Speaker 1: I guess not.

46:16 Speaker 4: Jenny, you didn't ask me until now. Do you ever

46:20 Speaker 4: hear me play them?

46:22 Speaker 1: Actually? No?

46:23 Speaker 4: Never in all our years, like a decade.

46:25 Speaker 1: Never. Oh, and Jeff Richard says that Kiss rules. Matt

46:29 Speaker 1: you rock, thank you. Yeah, we are out of time.

46:34 Speaker 1: Remind us again, where should people go online? The website

46:37 Speaker 1: and anything else people should know about paper Jam.

46:39 Speaker 3: Well, the website is paper Jam Magazine dot com. So

46:44 Speaker 3: if you want to look at some back issues, I'll

46:47 Speaker 3: send it to you mail order. I think it's only

46:49 Speaker 3: four bucks, yeah, to order a back issue, okay, And

46:53 Speaker 3: the email is paper Jam Underscore mag at yahoo dot com.

46:58 Speaker 2: Okay. And of course we're on Facebook as well.

47:01 Speaker 3: And we're on Facebook as paper Jam the music mag

47:04 Speaker 3: for local bands and fans.

47:06 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, outstanding, Sheila and Tony, thank you both so much.

47:10 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

47:11 Speaker 1: This has been wonderful. We'll have to do it again

47:13 Speaker 1: in the future. I love what you're doing, very very cool.

47:16 Speaker 1: And we'll actually end this segment with Ghosts Inside, another

47:21 Speaker 1: great track from Day to a Song, and of course

47:24 Speaker 1: Day to Attend is on the cover of the current

47:26 Speaker 1: issue of paper Jam Magazine. And this is another great track.

47:30 Speaker 1: This is called ghost Inside.