Matt Connarton Unleashed: The Grey Curtain

0:00 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the Midnight Creatives Collective and Terminus and events, big show coming up there October nineteenth, that we've been talking about a lot today because Able Blood. Our first hour guests are on that show, and of course our second hour we had Dan from the band Horror. And now we've entered our third hour, New Marrow Trace here on Matt Connorton unleashed, and we've got Dennis and Sean from the band The Gray Curtain.

0:25 Speaker 2: Welcome guys, Hey, good, good, Oh?

0:28 Speaker 1: Why can't I hear you? I can't hear you, Sean. I don't know why.

0:33 Speaker 2: Uh oh, keep talking like nicol difficulties that might meet too that Mike was working earlier. Keep talking shut live radio.

0:46 Speaker 1: No, it's not it's probably probably me.

0:49 Speaker 2: Yeah.

0:50 Speaker 1: I can't find you. Oh wait, I think I might have figured it out. Never mind, Jenny, I think.

0:58 Speaker 2: Found you.

1:02 Speaker 1: All right? Very good?

1:05 Speaker 2: I lost always the bass player.

1:07 Speaker 1: I think I lost you again? Really well?

1:11 Speaker 3: Wait, is there a gremblin in the microphone?

1:14 Speaker 2: There might be?

1:16 Speaker 1: This is weird.

1:16 Speaker 2: I just want to watch a movie A found I found you again though the first one.

1:21 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm not going to touch anything else, and hopefully we don't lose you again. All Right, it's funny. I said that mic never fails us, and then I have a problem with it. That's funny anyway, Well live radio.

1:33 Speaker 2: Heinks, I know.

1:35 Speaker 1: Apparently I did. Jenny warns me about that too. She's like, don't she says, don't jinx it and then get your fault. It is it is, that's fine. The rest of the day told you not to go there. Well, guys, welcome, We're I'm looking forward to talking to you, and we're going to play some of your tracks too. But uh yeah, tell us about your band, The Gray Curtain.

1:54 Speaker 2: Oh well, uh started. I started the band in twenty fourteen.

2:01 Speaker 2: Basically I put out a couple of songs just me and an acoustic guitar, and there was a battle of the band's online Battle of the Bands over Foxwoods and I ended up placing fourth out of like like one hundred and eighty nine bands. Yeah, which was just mind boggling.

2:23 Speaker 1: So it was you just submitted, You just how to submit your music.

2:27 Speaker 2: That's that's all I did. Okay. So they called me up and said, yeah, we're going to do a live Battle of the bands over Foxwoods, you know, in a couple of weeks. You know, we'll see you you and your band there. I hung up the phone all excited, and then I went, wait, I need a band. Oh my god, yeah, so it. You know, it took a few days to get a few guys in on the project. Unfortunately, everyone that was part of the band at that point of all coming gone, you know, done, you know, gone on to do their own things.

3:01 Speaker 2: Sean has been a close friend of the band for many years doing his own band in Man, but recently, over the last two years or so, I've needed new bandmates and Sean was the first person I called. And we're actually currently looking for a keyboard player, synth player, but you know, we're trying out drummers currently because, as you mentioned, the Terminus show on the nineteenth, we're going to be saying goodbye to the drummer we currently have, Joe Soferano, mainly because he's just in way too many projects.

3:44 Speaker 2: He's in the Megans, who are going to be playing the show with us, He's in Guello. I think he's I can't remember if he's full time or part time with Rags to Stitches, but you know, he's in a lot of other projects. And with the amount of shows that we're planning on doing, it was just it was better if if he out.

4:05 Speaker 1: It's funny because that comes up. This subject specifically comes up all the time on the show. Every drummer is in like ten different bands.

4:13 Speaker 2: They gotta be Yeah, yeah, they're a they're a rare resource in this area right now.

4:18 Speaker 1: Well, my my theory is, and longtime listeners have heard me say this a thousand times, but you know, when you're growing up and you first become interested in playing a musical instrument, you go to have the conversation with your parents about what you're going to play.

4:31 Speaker 2: If it's drum if it's the.

4:32 Speaker 1: Drums or the tuba, they're going to try to talk you out of it.

4:36 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.

4:38 Speaker 1: So that's my theory because yeah, every drummer is in you know, ten different bands.

4:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad was a drummer, so it's you know, he knows what it's like to stretch himself thin in like multiple projects.

4:48 Speaker 1: Yeah.

4:48 Speaker 2: But but yeah, basically the band was started by me just I started writing stories and basing my music around these.

5:00 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:01 Speaker 2: Henry Miller said the best way to get over a woman is to turn her into literature. So I did that with all my hurts, habits, hang ups, all my bullies, all my traumas, PTSD, my depression, my nightmares, my addictions, and made all of these feelings, all of these past characters and whatnot in my life into citizens of this cursed town. Okay, I can't leave. And all of our music is based around the people and events that happen in this town.

5:32 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Something we talk about a lot on the show. It comes up quite a bit. In fact, it came up with Dan from the band Horror in the last hour. Is talking about, you know, taking problems and doing something creative with them, whether it be you know, and I get you know, I'm someone who struggles with depression, so I can certainly relate to that aspect of it. But taking you know, whether it's that, whether it's some sort of trauma, whatever it is, you know, taking these things that happened to us, but then doing something creative with them, actually making something out of them that other people can then relate to and enjoy.

6:04 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's the best therapy that there is.

6:07 Speaker 2: Really, That's exactly what I say, you know, whenever I get off stage, you know, people will approach me and tell me how, you know my songs are helping them in some way through their depression. And we played a show in Maine recently and a young woman. Won't go into details on her name or anything, but a young woman approached me and told me how she had had been thinking about ending her life and she felt very sorry. She felt very attached to a couple of our songs and made her feel better. Really, that is basically the key element of what I try to do.

6:50 Speaker 2: I try to help people who feel like I feel, think how I think, feel better and try to make it through the day just a little easier. Yes, yeah, so I but I say it all the time. It's like this is the best form of therapy there is absolutely was that? Was that your goal from the beginning? Or it kind of become that the gray curtain? Yes, I've been in fourteen bands and a wow? Yeah, well wait, do you also play drums? Is that what I play? I play percussions, but not as well as past members of this band.

7:28 Speaker 2: I played bass, but not as well as past members of this band and present members of this band. But but no. I come from a long line of musicians, all of my My uncle Smokey used to play in his own band, Smoking in the Rangers, in the Irish Club in Putnam. It's no longer there, but he got me on stage at five years old singing Frosty the Snowman at a Christmas event and I got hooked. Since you know, uh chamber choir, church choir, you know, school chorus, state competitions, voice lessons. Uh, I was just give me all of it.

8:10 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, growing up in high school, you know, as I mentioned, I was, I was a victim of a lot of bullying and whatnot. I was told that my singing wasn't good enough to be in a in a band. Really, so I started playing bass. My uncle Bob taught me, uh some basics, and once I got those down, he was like, you're ready to go. Just do your thing, you know, because he was playing country and I'm trying to do like Les Claypool stuff, you know, and so he was just like, you're good, You're good, you know, just just keep doing what you're doing.

8:46 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I basically, Uh, who.

8:49 Speaker 1: Who told you weren't good enough to sing?

8:51 Speaker 2: Was it a teacher or no? No, none of my teachers. So shout out to Michael Adam Kerns he he he kept pushing me, Oh I would you know, I was like tormented so much in school. I would take my lunch into the chorus room and just sit by myself. Really. Oh yeah, yeah, believe me.

9:13 Speaker 4: I could.

9:14 Speaker 2: I could sit here for hours telling you about this stuff. But uh no, it was you know, my peers, you know kids that you know that I would it.

9:25 Speaker 1: Was part of it. Sounds like it was part of the bullying.

9:28 Speaker 2: It really, it really was. But from that I got to say, if it wasn't for those experiences, I don't think I'm sitting here now talking to you about this because a lot of the characters are based on things like that, being told that I wasn't good enough, being told that my sound wasn't metal. It's like, okay, you know, even now, we're nominated for a New England Music Award for Best hard Rock and Metal and I'm still getting from my peers that we're not a metal band, we shouldn't be, and it's like, you know what, You're right, We're not a metal band, you know.

10:05 Speaker 2: We we like to do a little bit of metal. We like to do a little bit of rock. We like to do a little bit of jazz, We like to do a little bit of swing. You know. It basically depends on the character in the story that that song pertains. Ye, But yeah, it uh, it's it's really difficult because you want people to be connected and you want people to to help each other, especially in this scene, you know, between all the states in New England. But it's it's really tough sometimes because it doesn't feel like that's the case and in a lot of in a lot of instances.

10:47 Speaker 1: But well, you're doing something unique too. I mean, you know, I can't think of anyone who sounds quite like you guys, which is awesome, which I love. And I'm curious, Sean, is this the most unique project you've ever been a part of? Yeah?

11:03 Speaker 2: Probably, I would have to say.

11:04 Speaker 5: So.

11:05 Speaker 6: You know, I've been, like, like you mentioned before, I was in a band Inman before that was kind of more of a you know, a straight forward, modernized grunge band, where I feel like the stuff we're playing in this is definitely a little more, uh, a little more difficult to, like you said, find someone who sounds quite like it. Yeah, uh, And I feel like there's a lot of different influences that go into the sound. So there's it's really easy to have a lot of fun with it, you know.

11:36 Speaker 2: It's uh.

11:38 Speaker 6: Definitely definitely doesn't get redundant any at any point.

11:42 Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, absolutely, Well we should play something now, you uh what should because you had you had suggested uh in your email a few songs. Is there one that you're pushing as a single?

12:00 Speaker 2: Well? Uh, the first album, Shadow of a Man, A lot of people like the opening. Yeah, the second album, we didn't get a chance to, uh, to really play all that much before the mass outing of the the the members I had, right.

12:19 Speaker 6: So we could we could do the title track from that album.

12:21 Speaker 2: Then oh the Floors, yeah, the florist.

12:24 Speaker 1: That was that was one of the ones he had suggested. Yeah, I think, oh no, that wasn't one of the Oh no, that was. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm you know what in my mind, I'm I'm conflating the uh, the uh album with the song.

12:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.

12:39 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we'll let's go with that. Yeah, I really like this one a lot, and then we'll we'll talk about it a little bit after. But so, yeah, let's give this a spin. This is really interesting. Check this out the Gray Curtain, and the song is called the Florist.

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17:00 Speaker 1: That is the Florist, the Gray Curtain. Here with us in studio. We've got a couple of the guys from the band here with us. And well that's a great song if you are just joining us. Of course, this is Matt connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM. And today our guests have been some of the people who are going to be performing at a great event coming up at Terminus in Nashua on October nineteenth. And we talked to Abel Blood earlier and Dan from Horror and now we've got the Gray Curtain here, and what can you tell us about that song?

17:37 Speaker 2: Well, the song and the album are based around a elderly floorist from the town of Apathy. All of the Gray Curtain albums are going to be around based around citizens of the town of Apathy. Okay, the character in question is a man named Serge Colin. He loses his wife to cancer and he develops he He he finds this plant in the basement of his now dilapidated flower shop. He sells everything to try to get his wife some treatment and she ends up passing away anyway, and he goes down to the basement of his flower shop and finds this This plant actually exists in real life.

18:29 Speaker 2: It's it's called a double's trumpet, and he gets the the oil of the of the plant ingested into his body. And when when that happens again, I r L. In real life, you hallucinate, you see, like nightmares in real life, and it hurt it. It hurts your your ability to breathe, it hurts your ability to function.

18:58 Speaker 1: I think I've actually heard of this.

19:00 Speaker 2: And he ends up hearing the voice of his dead wife telling him that if he plants the women of the town into the ground like seeds, she will blossom like a flower from the earth and they will be together again. Okay, And the entire album is about his quest to get his wife back by doing this. It's uh, it's one for the kids.

19:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, now this and is this also being written as a as a full story.

19:30 Speaker 2: Yes it is. Yeah, we are currently I'm currently working on a series of graphic novels.

19:35 Speaker 1: Oh.

19:36 Speaker 2: It's taking me forever to do because I at first, I was doing it on paper, just you know, pencil drawings and whatnot, and I was able to get like four comics done. Now I'm doing everything again on tablet and it you know, I mean, I'm investing a lot in getting you know, the color schemes and things like that. And then on top of that, I'm working with my part partner April on getting a script for the entire twenty chapter storyline of the Town of Apathy finished and possibly if we can get it picked up to make it an actual show.

20:16 Speaker 1: Wow.

20:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're about April. What will be two hundred and eight pages.

20:21 Speaker 1: In okay, yeah, two hundred and eight of I mean, how much do you do you think it'll end up being? We any idea?

20:28 Speaker 2: Probably three hundred and fifteen pages, I think is what we're going to stop at, because then you've got about nine episodes.

20:34 Speaker 1: Okay, so you figure you're about two thirds of the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, Well that's that's a lot. No, that's great though, That's that's a great h that's a great undertaking.

20:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the you know, the Florist storyline is part of that, that script. And I've already got excuse me, about twenty thirty pages or so of the of the graphic novel for the Floor Stand Shadow of a Man, the first album completed.

21:02 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I was curious to ask you about that too, because we're gonna play I like this track, the opening that we'll play in a couple of minutes, but I'm curious about Shadow of a Man and does this also have a like the Florist does this also kind of have its own story?

21:18 Speaker 2: Oh, they all do. Shadow of a Man is more autobiographical. However, in twenty twelve, I went through a downward spiral where I attempted suicide. I was caught, but I based Shadow of a Man on what happened to me during that time. I lost the love of my life. She is currently not speaking to me because of the man that I was back then, rightfully so.

21:49 Speaker 3: And I.

21:52 Speaker 2: Based the character Nathan Knoth on me. His name originally was going to be Nough Guile, but I thought that was a little on the nose because that's my last name backwards.

22:02 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, but.

22:06 Speaker 2: But yeah, the the album takes place in the last day and a half of Nathan's life.

22:11 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's what should we know about this song. I'm gonna play the opening, and I think we should know about this specifically.

22:17 Speaker 2: The opening takes place. Well, I wrote the opening before I even had like an idea of like the storyline or anything like that. It was basically my my acceptance that I have a rare form of cancer, and I know that my timeline is not as long as a lot of other people. So I wrote the opening as a way to kind of come to terms with seeing the light and knowing that as much as I fight, one day, this is going to end. So I have to enjoy what I have while I have it.

22:55 Speaker 1: Okay.

22:55 Speaker 2: And the opening, as far as the storyline, takes place right around the end of the story where Nathan is accepting death.

23:06 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's give this a listen. This is a song is called the Opening. This is from the album Shadow of a Man by the Gray Curtain.

23:35 Speaker 14: Shadow. I'm not a little guy.

23:41 Speaker 7: And my rage.

23:45 Speaker 14: This so that an ave I won the die of the old Acrost.

24:19 Speaker 4: The end of my spy like a wing this spy, oh.

24:34 Speaker 9: Accord, the end of my s.

24:39 Speaker 11: S I cried of the mountains on Dauntist. We're a green eye on board.

25:08 Speaker 13: Fragile dye, Crakys, one of fine line Wendy women.

25:16 Speaker 12: It's all one of the God signs. The reason lits.

25:41 Speaker 7: On the door.

25:46 Speaker 12: I say bye, be a Wendyspine. Oh I my mustn.

27:21 Speaker 14: ' my say.

27:41 Speaker 12: My say.

27:57 Speaker 2: Wow.

27:57 Speaker 1: That is the opening from the album Shadow of a Man by the Gray Curtain. And we have Dennis and Sean from the Gray curtain here with us alive in studio this morning, and uh wow, that's that's pretty epic as we're listening to that, Dennis, I'm curious to know more about your your singing and where do you take influences from in terms of your vocal approach.

28:22 Speaker 2: Well, growing up, I I was kind of bombarded with old school country, No Show, Jones, Patsy Kline, Roy Orbison. So thus a lot of my lyrical content is sad by nature as theirs were. But then as I got older, I started finding my own influences, uh in soul music and jazz and blues. And then as I became a teenager, I started listening to at all more often. But really I started getting into the kind of stuff that I'm doing currently because of things like Rocky Horror Picture Show. You know, the first time I the first time I saw Meatloaf, I was enamored.

29:16 Speaker 2: I wanted to know everything there was to know about this guy from Bad Out of Hell one, two, even three. You know a lot of people don't talk about three, but that's a good album.

29:29 Speaker 14: You know.

29:30 Speaker 2: I enjoy musicians who wear their heart on their sleeve when they're on stage, or you know, just when they're writing a song, they're trying to not so much make you dance or make you feel happy or anything. They're trying to invoke an emotion. Former band member of the Great Curtain actually got me into Stephen Wilson from Porcupine Tree, which, yeah, which is one of Sean's favorite bands.

30:00 Speaker 7: Yeah.

30:01 Speaker 2: First time I saw Stephen Wilson perform, he did the song called Routine, and I could actually feel my heart get just ripped out of my chest.

30:13 Speaker 7: Yeah.

30:14 Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't go to a show, you know, wanting that, but I do. I want to. I want to feel an experience when when I go to a show.

30:25 Speaker 1: Yeah.

30:26 Speaker 2: So, and and that's where my where I take a lot of my influence from, uh, you know, seeing Rent on Broadway, you know, uh, and then the very next day going to see you know, Metallica play at Woodstock ninety nine. You know. I It's basically like those two things are what makes uh makes the Great Curtain. Yeah, you know that heavy edge with the emotional baggage.

30:53 Speaker 1: Yep, yep? Did your approach change it all between these two albums? I mean, obviously they have different themes, but.

31:01 Speaker 2: Well, my old band members, did we did all the recording, did all the mixing. Uh So, you know, all of the what's the word I'm looking for? All all of the kudos goes to them for the way that these albums sound as far as production, but as far as approach, yeah, we the first album, we basically went into it like we we need to get this sound out there. A lot of people are asking for some sort of hard copy, and by the time we got to the second album, nobody listens to a hard copy anymore, you know. So we only got maybe like fifty copies of the second album and we were like throwing them around at people.

31:48 Speaker 2: A lot of people just listen to uh to our streaming sure today. But the approach was basically, just like with the characters. The first album was very melodramatic, very dark, very Ecker Allen Poe. The second is very horror movie. It's very it's very John Carpenter, it's very you know, Stephen King. And that's what we try to do, you know, as far as like what I try to do when I'm developing a story. The one that we're currently working on is about two killers, and they both have two lists that they have to complete.

32:31 Speaker 2: The main protagonist antagonist excuse me, the main antagonist of the story basically allows one of them to go free of this town that they can't that no one in the town can escape, and the first killer that can complete their list of ten is allowed to leave the town no strings attached. So we're able, you know, we're able to take from that brief description of the storyline and go, okay, well, what kind of album is this going to be? You know, what kind of songs are we going to put together for this?

33:07 Speaker 2: And uh and this is going to be more of like action type of I don't want to say, gory type of thing, but a lot more intense album than the other two.

33:21 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, will you be recording? Well, where did you record the newest one?

33:29 Speaker 2: In my former drummer's house. Okay, he had a recording studio in the basement of his house and we and we mixed in the sun room like a sun porch.

33:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, so you see you did the entire album there, yep, yeah, okay.

33:48 Speaker 2: The whole thing was was homemade.

33:51 Speaker 7: Yeah.

33:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have to go to a studio obviously with this next batch of songs not going to be the case, but uh, but you know, and and the worst part too, is like I still love those guys, you know, I I've got I got nothing, nothing but love for everybody. Every single person that has helped me along through this ride, present and past, has h you know, has made this band better. So I've you know, I like, I will never say ill will word ill word towards any member that you know. Was we were just talking during the uh during the opening of past members, people that I wish we're still in this band, people that I understand why they left, but uh, as far as you know where we're gonna go, as far as uh like recording in the future, you know who knows?

34:53 Speaker 2: You know who knows we I was obviously gonna have to go to a studio.

34:58 Speaker 1: Well you've got plenty of options. That's a good new Yeah.

35:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep hearing people tell me, you know, oh, you should go here, you should go here, you should go here. But you know, right right now, we're still in Like I think we've only got like seven songs, and I want this thing to be you know, it's kind of a moot thing to say nowadays, with physical copies being you know, the thing of the past. I guess, which makes me sad.

35:23 Speaker 1: What a lot of the a lot of our guests are still putting out, you know, physical copies of CDs. But but I think my theory though, is I think most most of those never actually get played. It's just if you're really a fan of somebody, it's nice, you know. Same thing with vinyl, Yeah, I mean vinyl. I think now vinyl is out selling CDs. Yeah, but if you buy, if you buy somebody's vinyl, a brand new vinyl in the package, it probably you know, most people I'm sure never even open it. They just it's because they're such a big fan of that artist.

35:50 Speaker 1: It's cool to have the vinyl. Yeah, absolutely, ye kind of collected.

35:54 Speaker 2: But yeah, you you explained it a lot better than I did, where it's like, yeah, people are still I still have CDs, I still have tapes.

36:02 Speaker 1: Yeah.

36:03 Speaker 2: One of our main crew guys, his name is Fully shout out to Fully. He his wall is nothing but cassette tapes. You know, he's got vinyl for days. Yeah, and uh, you know it's just like what you said. You know, if you appreciate it, then you know you will you will buy it.

36:20 Speaker 1: Yeah.

36:21 Speaker 2: But but what we're trying to well, what I'm hoping to pitch and what the guys hopefully will go along with. Is a double album really one one album's worth of material for each killer.

36:37 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool.

36:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm hoping, hoping that we can get that get that out there within the next couple of years.

36:47 Speaker 12: Yeah.

36:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's a that's a great concept. I can relate to what you were saying about meat Loaf, by the way, because I was I was such a big fan growing up. I actually have his non or I did. I don't know where they are now. I don't really keep any speaking of physical copies, I really don't keep physical copies of anything anymore. But but I always bought his non Bat out of Hell albums too, you know, like Whine before I Stop and uh, what's the uh? I can't even remember the titles now, it's been so long, But yeah, I actually that's a friend of mine joked with me once because I had, you know, I had all these obscure albums of Meatloaf that nobody else cared about because they didn't have Bad out of Hell in the title.

37:25 Speaker 1: And yeah, a friend of mine said, you know, he probably knows you like like like, he probably knows who you are because you're the one guy who actually bought these other CDs. Like if you ever met him, he'd be like, hey, I know you. I heard about you. They told me you were real, but I didn't think you were. Eleanor in the chat room says CDs are totally in. Uh we still use super dupes in uh in Salem, U Salem, New Hampshire. Shout out to Bruce Bannett. Oh there you go. So yeah, so there's an option for you if you decide to Uh.

37:56 Speaker 1: Yes, Spelfie was saying too, she's still buy CDs.

37:58 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I knew like the way that I worded it, we were probably going to get people going, Hey, wait a second, I'm not saying that CDs aren't awesome. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying that, you know, it just seems like people don't really buy them anymore. Like when we go to play shows, you know a lot of people will ask, oh, are you guys on Spotify or you guys on Apple?

38:18 Speaker 1: That's the most important thing to be on the streaming platforms? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

38:23 Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong. Every show we play we have copies of the floorst We have copies of Shadow of a Man, we have the T shirts, we have you know, great hurt in the Flame throw kids love that one.

38:33 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I bet Eleanor is excited to see that at Terminus. Just kidding.

38:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not bringing Pyro.

38:39 Speaker 1: Actually, well you know what they survived, Green Jello.

38:43 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's a mess.

38:46 Speaker 1: I had. I had to Oh, I had uh. I was there on Tuesday of this week for a meeting with Eleanor, and I asked her because actually Jenny's the one who kind of put that ball in motion as far as booking Green Jello there. But I asked asked me for a venue? Yeah, yeah, because we we when they were in town, we had them on the show. But I asked Eleanor, I said, did anything get broken that night? I was just curious, But I apparently nothing did so at least at least nothing important. So that's good. But yeah, that was a that was a hell of a night.

39:16 Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's cool. We should remind people, of course October nineteenth, you're going to be there, yep, at Terminus. Also with we had an able blood in the first hour. They're going to be there and Horror is also going to be there at that show. Who was here with us in the second hour? Also, do you stall it in front of you, Jenny, I'm kind of doing this for Memory Dead. Harrison of course will be there October nineteenth.

39:38 Speaker 2: Thenagans Ye Joe's Joe from the Nagans is going to be playing double duty with us and the Megans.

39:45 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool.

39:46 Speaker 2: It's going to be his last show with us, unfortunately.

39:48 Speaker 3: And they're going to have a haunted house.

39:49 Speaker 2: Yeah you heard about that.

39:52 Speaker 1: Oh here, here we go. I find it. Oh oh, Questing Beast, that's who I was forgetting. I love that name, Questing Beast. I just think that's a cool.

40:00 Speaker 14: So.

40:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's gonna be a big night October nineteenth at Terminus in Nashua. So, and of course we'll definitely be reminding you all of that as it gets closer. But guys, we are I want to get one more song and it's a long one, so we will we'll begin to wrap up. But what should people know about? Where to follow you guys online? How to keep up with everything that you're doing.

40:28 Speaker 2: Basically we're on Facebook. Basically type in the Gray Curtain. It'll either show you pictures of curtains or it'll show you us. But yeah, we're on Spotify, Apple Music, We're on band camp, We're on YouTube. Just type in the Gray Curtain and it'll take you to one of one of our pages. We're also on Facebook, Instagram, all of the streamings, all of the social media's.

40:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. Oh and we should tell people too it is g r e Y.

40:58 Speaker 7: Yeah.

40:58 Speaker 2: A lot of people get the CONFUSO. Yeah, g R e Y.

41:03 Speaker 1: Yes. Uh does the name ever get spelled wrong?

41:07 Speaker 2: Oh yeah all the time? Does it all the time? Yeah? Yeah, you know, I worked for meals on wheels and like people find out that I'm in a band, they're like typing it in. They're like, oh, we can't find you. I'm like, oh, it's it's e yeah why yeah?

41:22 Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, well very good. Well, thank you guys so much. We are going to play one more track to close out in just a moment. Thank you to everybody who joined us today on this Saturday. And Jenny, you want to plug your website.

41:36 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can go to Gencoffee dot com j E N N C O F f e y dot com, check out the blog and you can find my report on the White House Medical Dead event, as well as information on Spellbound, the next Mosaic Art Collective show.

41:50 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very good. So we'll close out with this song. Like I said, it's a long one, but this clip The Stitch, from from the album of the Floor by the Gray Curtain, and what should we know about this before we play it?

42:04 Speaker 2: This takes place in the part of the story where Surge the floorist, starts seeing and hearing excuse me, seeing and hearing his dead wife telling him what he needs to do to get her back.

42:20 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good. So we're going to close out with this if you miss any part of today's show and we'll be up in just a little bit at Wmnhradio dot org and my website Mattconnorton dot com. And uh yes, we will leave you with this. This is clip the Stitch. The band is the Gray Curtain, and thanks everybody. We'll talk at y'all a little bit later.