Matt Connarton Unleashed: TRAWL

0:00 Speaker 1: World premiere.

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0:25 Speaker 3: Just take a little cat his mask.

0:27 Speaker 2: And you don't realize that's full loves Press Tompson. But he thinks he's said everybody's friend.

0:44 Speaker 4: Oh boy, he's so tool.

0:49 Speaker 2: But we all know that he's took a fool.

0:56 Speaker 5: A top ten issue.

1:01 Speaker 3: He's got praise like ring.

1:06 Speaker 2: I turned them seas from a time winning A man of surprising will break every one's time reader's dead rise like glass is he gons match.

1:18 Speaker 6: You want to turn around and shout it up.

1:20 Speaker 2: In Franchise's he's the work the boys back. The man's really upsurd these teams of the past. A high school captain still smoking.

1:31 Speaker 5: Team pass.

1:34 Speaker 3: Was here johns Sam.

1:40 Speaker 2: He thinks he's saying three bodies.

1:42 Speaker 5: Then, oh boy, he's so cool.

1:51 Speaker 3: Well we all know that he's just up fool. The jack is sick you.

2:02 Speaker 6: He's got praise like no.

2:08 Speaker 3: Turn dol Sea.

2:09 Speaker 5: Food Watch one.

2:16 Speaker 7: And we know the truck.

2:19 Speaker 3: When it's caused wone.

2:21 Speaker 1: There he goes poof.

2:46 Speaker 5: When he comes out.

2:52 Speaker 2: What he thinks he's a Fred Body's friend.

2:57 Speaker 6: Oh boy, he's so cool.

3:03 Speaker 2: Well we all know that he sut up.

3:14 Speaker 7: He's got pretty fi.

3:20 Speaker 5: A dirt bec like your sid.

3:42 Speaker 8: Oh that is so good. That is Braggadocio. And the band is Troll. And we've got Troll here with us, live in studio, and so happy to have you with us. That is the world radio premiere of that track, by the way, that has not been heard on the radio prior to today. So we do love the world radio premieres. And we've got the members of trall all four guys are here with us live in studio. Welcome, gentlemen, let's do this. Let's uh start with you, sir. We'll go around the room and tell us who you are and what you do in the band.

4:11 Speaker 1: I am Sean. I am the singer of Well. I make mouth noises. Let me get that right. I make mouth noises for Troll.

4:17 Speaker 8: All right, welcome shot.

4:18 Speaker 6: I'm Adam. I hit things.

4:20 Speaker 8: Adam, you hit things?

4:21 Speaker 9: Okay.

4:22 Speaker 1: I played guitar justin you play guitar.

4:25 Speaker 9: Very good, seth, I play the big guitar or also known as the Bass the bass.

4:29 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, well welcome. By the way, I did enjoy we were talking off here. I really like that that bass solo there and braggadocio. That's really good.

4:39 Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

4:39 Speaker 6: That every band has to have a bass solo song.

4:44 Speaker 8: Well actually a lot of bands would disagree with that, but I'm all for it.

4:48 Speaker 9: I can sneak one in there. I'm always psyched.

4:50 Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely man. And by the way, so I appreciate you guys traveling too. You know, we have a lot of artists on the show from various parts. We just talked to awaiting Abigail from Texas of course, and they skyped in or what we're using in place of Skype now because Skype has apparently gone away. But usually, you know, when people are joining us live in studio, they're usually you know, maybe within within an hour max. But you guys drove all the way down from Portland on a rainy Saturday morning.

5:17 Speaker 8: So I really appreciate that you're here. Yeah, absolutely pleasure. And of course our friend Nathan Hill, he's in the chat room. He was he drove a long way too to get here. He was on the show recently, and so I think he's the one who actually connected us with you guys, who connected Jenny. Yes, but we've been aware of you for a long time. I certainly have. In fact, Jay Bellow from Chasing the Devil he had said something about you guys in the chat room I think a couple of weeks ago, and he might be listening hyj and yeah, he said, because I think they did they play a show with you.

5:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, we basically them. That was the last summer show, yeah, non Poaching the Devil's last July.

5:52 Speaker 9: Yeah.

5:52 Speaker 8: Oh very cool.

5:53 Speaker 1: Great dudes love Chasing the Devil. Would love to get you know, hooked up at them again because they put on a hell of a show.

5:58 Speaker 8: So oh absolutely, Yeah, they're incredible. And I've known Jay forever, uh since back in his purge d I days. Yeah, long time, long time. But yeah, so I've been uh

6:10 Speaker 8: forgive me, my allergies have been out of control and then I hope the rain washes away to pollen, but it doesn't seem to.

6:15 Speaker 9: Work that way.

6:17 Speaker 8: So if I a couple of times, that's why I'm sorry. I'm not sick. I'm just uh, it's a it's a rough spring. But uh but yeah, so I've been aware of you guys for a while. I've seen you live. I can't remember where it was. It might have been a few years ago. Oh yeah, if you played a few years ago we played. We've played a couple of places in Manchester. We've played a Jewel right up the street. That's where I was.

6:38 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I remember Jewel.

6:40 Speaker 1: And then last time we were down here we played at the Goat. We played the Blackstone Cherry. It was a little mini run we did for we had our CD release, and then we played two shows back to back with Blackstone Cherry, once in the Goat down here, and then we went to Wally's in Hampton Beach to you know out so yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:58 Speaker 8: I remember seeing you guys a Jewel. That's that's the show I was at, and yeah, we were just very impressed. But you've been around for a while, right, Pral's been around for at least five or six years.

7:08 Speaker 9: Right, Yeah. We started in about I think June of twenty eighteen, so it's been next month will be seven years for trial, So.

7:16 Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, same lineup or has that changed over the years.

7:20 Speaker 9: It just changed a little. Sean and I have been in the entire time. And we've known Adam and Justin for for a very long time and they've been friends and fellow musicians, and Adam and I were in a band together for a long time. But Justin on guitar came in almost five years ago, and then Adam came in three years ago. So we've been the same lineup for three years and I really feel like we've, in my opinion, kind of hit our stride with the line I feel like this is the lineup. Yeah. Yeah.

7:54 Speaker 8: In terms of your live shows, does any of the early material survive? Is that carried forth?

7:59 Speaker 5: Oh?

7:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah.

8:00 Speaker 1: We play a lot of you know, everything that we've written. We pretty much play okay, kind of in a rotation depending on you know, where we are, who we're playing with. We try to cater to the set, you know, who's there. You know, if it's heavier, we might tend to push ourselves a little bit in the heavier direction. But we play pretty much everything. I think there's two songs that we just kind of retired based on and we wrote them and we like them, and then it's like, yeah, kind of outgrew it. It's just not it doesn't hit the way it hit when we wrote it.

8:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm always curious because I've been in bands where sometimes if there's a change in members, you know, there's sometimes there might be somebody in the band who's like, ah, that's from before, we shouldn't do that, which which I would always fight against because I was always like, I was in a band called My Life Crisis, which went through a lot of different permutations through through the years, and I was always like, well, I know these songs are from an old lineup, but still, you know, these are songs that we made.

8:53 Speaker 8: I mean, we made this music. It's our music.

8:55 Speaker 6: A good song is a good song exactly worth it than play it exactly.

8:59 Speaker 8: And it's heartbreaking to have to retire something just because you know, like if you've got one guy in the band who's like, I don't want to play that anymore because you know that's tied to a previous lineup, and it's like, oh, come on, man, I've.

9:09 Speaker 6: Done that a few times. And it's like if the guy who left actually wrote the song like that was his baby, yeah kind of understand it, Yeah.

9:16 Speaker 8: I yeah, I can kind of understand although that that ended up in the band. I was talking about that I was in that that did become a big point of contention. It all worked out in the end, but yeah.

9:26 Speaker 9: Yeah, and we kind of like let the the people tell us what they want to hear too, because a lot of times we'll reach out and say, hey, what do you want to what do you want to see this weekend? And and some of our older songs people want want to see live. So we're you know, we actually close with car chard On and it's like it was one of the first songs we ever wrote, and it's literally been our closer for like our entire of the band.

9:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, really, yeah, yeah, it was the first song we recorded and put out, and honestly, like when we got it going, it was just a hey, we got to have something to show what we're do when like we are playing shows. But car Chardon was the first one we recorded, and Seth sold like a bunch of comic books to help pay for it and stuff like that. Yeah, Like it was funny because the conversation we had the songs about a shark from the point of view of a shark. Yeah, and Seth sold the Batman comic book that had shark on the cover, and we were.

10:19 Speaker 9: Saying about it was like Batman two fifty one. There it is Batman Fights a Shark. It's the one with Joker on the cover, with the with the actual playing card, really and it's an iconic cover and I ended up parting ways with it to get the money to to go record that song. Yeah, but I don't regret it. I don't regret it, and I'll buy it back some days.

10:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You can always get it first.

10:42 Speaker 1: There we recorded and it's been our closer ever since, just because we feel like it's just a fun song. Yeah, it always is a good time and people when we first played it. I remember the faces. People were like, Okay, they were getting into all the stuff we'd done and this song came on and they weren't anticipating what would happen towards the end of it, and they were like, what just occurred was not in my purview of what was going on this entire set. And so it's just been one of those fun surprises.

11:08 Speaker 1: If you've never seen us and you come see this and you hear that song, you're like, what was that?

11:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. Is it being a band from Portland?

11:19 Speaker 6: Is it? Uh?

11:19 Speaker 5: Is it?

11:21 Speaker 8: This might be a strange question.

11:22 Speaker 9: I don't know.

11:23 Speaker 8: Is it hard to stand out there when you're first starting to build a following, because people say this about Boston, like, if you're a Boston band, there's so many Boston bands, it's hard to stand out, and like up here it's a little easier. But but Portland, for as long as I can remember, has always had a pretty incredible music scene too. It seems like there's a lot of really good bands in Portland. I mean, is that is it competitive? Like what's the I haven't I used to do a lot in Portland. I used to promote shows and stuff when I was more into that part of the business.

11:48 Speaker 8: But but but I've been kind of disengaged from Portland as a city for a long time, so I don't really know, like what the vibe is there now.

11:56 Speaker 9: Yeah, i'd say it is it is tough to stand out. I think it's just about kind of finding your other peers, your other bands that like you fit well with, and kind of trying to create critical mass with like two or three bands that like everyone will come out and see and the and the audience makes sense, which has been a rotating cast over the years because a lot of bands, you know, fall off and break up, and new bands are always popping up. So we're always trying to find new bands to play with that that are exciting to us, that we like their sound.

12:27 Speaker 9: But Portland in general is is tough because you've got a lot of tourism and you kind of got this whole upper end rising up with the you know, luxury condos and whatnot, and so you've got you've got kind of two Portland's. You know, you got the the sort of the tourists and and sort of higher priced end, and then you've got your your bars and clubs and you know, sort of the local scene end. And and there's a lot of clubs that don't cater to rock and metal, and there's a there's a few that do, and those are always a movie target.

13:00 Speaker 9: And it's been tough through the pandemic like that. You know, some of them didn't survive, and so we're we're always trying to like take the pulse of like, okay, what's happening now, you know, where should we be playing now? What places should we be looking to play if we haven't yet, And so it's I think it's literally changes probably every six months to a year. Yeah, so it's yeah, it's hard like and I don't I don't think it used to move that quickly. Things seem to stay the same for every couple of years, but now things moved so quickly.

13:33 Speaker 8: But yeah, that's interesting.

13:35 Speaker 9: Yeah.

13:35 Speaker 6: I call it the snow globe effect. And I saw it. I used to. I grew up in mass and played in bands for Boston. Yeah, it's like every couple of years, you just kind of shake up the snow globe and put it back down. And this guy's moved over here, and this guy's moved over here. This guy retired and left, and but this dude came out of nowhere and now he took his spot. Yeah, so it's still the same core group of people. You've just kind of shaken it up a little bit.

13:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Are there bands that you're you know, because it does happen organically, are there other bands in Portland that you play a lot of shows with that you've kind of sort of teamed up with. Maybe, just like I said, sometimes it just kind of happens, you know.

14:09 Speaker 6: I think it's cyclical, Yeah, kind of rotation, Like he's six months and you just kind of latch on.

14:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like like Seth was saying, a lot of bands, unfortunately, they just they retire. They they they're done playing, and that's kind of crappy. We like, you know, some of the bands we really like, they just decided it wasn't in them and theymore they didn't have the drive, so they kind of just laid it to rest. And it's like, well that stinks. I really like, we really liked playing with you guys, and they're like, yeah, well we got other projects coming out, and it's like, well, let us know, we'd love to connect with you and do it again.

14:46 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's always a matter of if those people are coming back into the scene or if they just they did lay it to rest and they're just they're moving on. So yeah, it's hard. It's it is very competitive up there, but a big thing for us, we just want to have fun. Yeah, and if you're having fun, you're doing it right.

15:03 Speaker 9: Yep.

15:04 Speaker 1: If you're not having fun, you screwed up somewhere and you need to fix that.

15:08 Speaker 5: Yeah.

15:08 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, And we also play in New Hampshire quite a lot. Yeah, we've actually I'd say we probably play in New Hampshire half the time.

15:16 Speaker 1: Probably you're a little more than half the time.

15:17 Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got often enough where we could like apply for residency and save some money on taxes or something.

15:22 Speaker 6: But right, right, next two shows are actually in New Hampshire, yeah are yeah, yeah.

15:27 Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, so we should mention those.

15:29 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:30 Speaker 9: Yeah, let's see Friday, so less than two weeks away. Friday, May twenty third, we're at the Stone Church in Newmarket, excellent, and then our next show after that is Sunday, June twenty second, we're playing Seacoast Metalfest at the Garage at the Governor's in in Rochester. I'm sure. So those are our next two shows, okay, and then we're actually playing in Manchester way later this year. It's on the books, it's it's been floated out there, but not like it's it's public, but they're not pushing it yet.

16:03 Speaker 8: Yeah.

16:04 Speaker 9: It's Friday November seventh at the Shaskiene with with Polka Dot Cadaver. Oh no, it'll be a cool show. Yeah.

16:12 Speaker 8: I don't know Polka Dot Caver, but that's a cool name. I'm I'm very I'm very intrigued just from the name.

16:19 Speaker 9: They're a crazy band. They are from kind of in Baltimore slash Baltimore slash Maine. They've got members kind of in both places. Wow, but they're they're Florida or kind of derived from the members of Dog Fashion Disco, who were a band for for from.

16:35 Speaker 8: Late from Baltimore. I remember them. I saw I saw them in Boston.

16:41 Speaker 6: Wow.

16:41 Speaker 8: That yeah a long time ago.

16:43 Speaker 6: Oh my god.

16:43 Speaker 9: All the same guys in both bands. They actually play songs from both. So yeah, we're excited to do We're doing a two show run with them in November this year.

16:50 Speaker 1: So Jason are just absolutely amazing dudes to work with and we love, you know, hanging out with them and being able to do this. And last year we were gonna play down here, but somebody in the band caught the plague.

17:03 Speaker 10: Oh and we had to.

17:05 Speaker 1: Kill off two shows just because still seth I was sick and yeah, and it happens. And honestly, they were really nice and said, hey, let's do this again. You know, we don't care. You guys got sick, you know, And it was actually didn't you go down and cover? Yeah?

17:19 Speaker 6: Yeah, band played instead, Oh kick over for.

17:22 Speaker 1: One of our spots. But it was. It was really cool and they were super nice to be like, hey, let's do it again. We're really excited about playing with you guys. Yeah, we were like absolutely, because Seth and I have been listening to the Dog Fashion Slash Polka Dot for for forever twenty five years now almost thirty years. What however long they've been a band.

17:39 Speaker 9: So talking about bands with longevity from Maine, though, Adam's band Loki has been around for twenty five years. Wow, in some former fashion.

17:49 Speaker 6: I've only been in it for like eighteen Yeah, oh is that all? And we were eighteen.

17:54 Speaker 9: We were in that band together for seven years.

17:56 Speaker 10: Oh.

17:57 Speaker 9: So that's where Adam and I know each other from. So we collectively have a decade of rhythm section jamming.

18:02 Speaker 1: So so it's funny that that the band Loki comes up because before either of these guys were involved, I was roommates with the drummer for a while and it was actually the Roady four Loki for a couple of years, and then like I moved out with my current wife and you know, stopped doing roady work for them. But then these guys came in. And it's funny because Justin and I about the same time that these guys started with Loki, him and I had a band together like forever ago, and it was interesting.

18:32 Speaker 9: And actually actually Adam and I met justin because Loki played with one of his former bands probably yeah twenty.

18:41 Speaker 6: I think eight eight or something like that.

18:43 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm going to say eight.

18:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, what we're saying.

18:48 Speaker 9: I'm feeling it anyway.

18:51 Speaker 1: Last week, Yeah, you don't look a day under fifty.

18:55 Speaker 6: Bunch of weaps.

18:57 Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, wow wow, Okay, So where does the name come from? Troll? What does that mean?

19:03 Speaker 9: So trall is something that I just you know, I I searched for a long time for I love one word band names. Yeah, you know, Rush, Tool, Primus, Clutch, Clutch, bands like that, and it's so hard to find a one word band name that just hits. It has, you know, one syllable, and I liked troll. It also means, you know, like with a trolling net, you're you're you're dragging behind a boat. It's like, you know, like picking up the sea life and all that. But but it also means to search, to troll through something, to search through something.

19:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I thought it was cool because you know, you can kind of apply the meaning to search to anything, you know, whether you're looking for you know, just like uh, you know, friendship or or like, uh, you know, a good time, or like searching for meaning in something like you can kind of apply that to just about anything. So I thought it was a cool name and it suck.

19:56 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, totally, it's funny. So I didn't know what trill meant. But then when you expl but I don't know. Maybe in the back of my mind I did know, maybe subconsciously, because when when you said it had something to do.

20:06 Speaker 9: With voting, and you know, yeah, like a troller net. Yeah, for some.

20:09 Speaker 8: Reason that like, oh that makes sense. Yeah, no, very cool. And what about the logo was that you?

20:17 Speaker 9: That was me too? Yeah?

20:18 Speaker 6: Yeah.

20:20 Speaker 1: Our stuff, like art wise is Seth. Okay, this is a mad genius when it comes to the artwork and setting things up. So like the CD designs. He doesn't do the cover art. That's somebody. We have a couple of different people we've used for that. But okay, I mean any T shirt you see is Seth. The original logo of the shark with the triangle is Seth. I mean, Seth is a mad genius when it comes to art and that's kind of our blessing.

20:47 Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate that and the things that I know I can't do. I you know, I love to find other artists. I'm always out there on like Instagram looking for other artists. I like, there's something I'm trying to accomplish, I'll commission somebody else. A lot of the covers of our EPs were commissioned. Actually, the guy who did our previous one was a tool poster artist. He's done, he's done. The one for Cosmic Aquatic was actually done by a tool poster artist named George Malonas out of Greece. Oh wow, really cool.

21:19 Speaker 9: So, and we've had people from Oliver. Actually our our latest EP, Tempest, Uh, the cover was paint was painted. It's actually an oil painting that was done by a lady named Colleen Woodward right here in New Hampshire.

21:32 Speaker 1: Oh wow.

21:33 Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was actually hand painted and then I had it scanned and archived at a at a place so that we could make it into the album cover.

21:42 Speaker 1: But oh wow, we did buy the painting too to support local artists too.

21:47 Speaker 9: Yeah.

21:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's awesome.

21:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, great portrait and we love it.

21:51 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely is that challenging when you're when you're talking to somebody about art artwork, like, because you've got to be able to communicate to them. Yeah, what you have in mind? I mean, is there some trial and error? Like if you're working with someone you've never worked before, like an artist you've never worked before before, but you're interested in having them do something, is it challenging to get them to kind of come up with something that matches the vision that.

22:17 Speaker 9: You have Sometimes? But I try to like meticulously look for an artist that I just love their style. Yeah, and I know that whatever they do, and I've always found you know, if you let an artist do what they're best at, they're gonna it's gonna be awesome. So like sometimes if you give and I'm the same way when because I help other bands with graphic design and flyers and sometimes album art as well. And the more the more you try to give them, the more you're kind of pigeonholing them. Yeah, And I think the less sometimes you can give somebody it like it lets them do what they do best.

22:54 Speaker 9: So I try to just like pick the right artists and put the trust in them to do the right to do the thing that we asked and let them there. But so and it's so far it's worked out, you know, And there's been a few that like I tried to have an artist to do something and then we didn't really like the result and we just won't. We just won't use it. You know, Well, it'll be in the archives, or maybe we'll use it later for a flyer or something less, you know, dire it just you know, it's not going to be the album art, but it might be like a flyer later on or something.

23:21 Speaker 9: But yeah, yeah, are you.

23:22 Speaker 8: Ever surprised, like hopefully pleasantly, But do you ever got into a situation where they come up with something that's totally not what you had in mind, but it's so good that you're like, yeah, let's.

23:31 Speaker 1: Go with it.

23:32 Speaker 9: Yeah, totally. The actually our album cover for from the Murky Depths. It was our second EP. I actually commissioned a an NFT artist because at the time, like right during the pandemic, that NFT movement with art was just going crazy, and this guy really didn't want to do just regular commission work because they were making way more money putting it out on like Open Sea as an NFT and then selling it for like thousands of dollars. So, but I found this guy he uh he's from Washington State, and uh yeah.

24:05 Speaker 9: He he was just like, yeah, okay, I'll try this. And I gave him a bunch of ideas and he came up with this like monstrosity of like deep sea diver helmet with like all these various sea life like eels and fish and everything, and it's all like in this one, it's you go go out there and look at it. But it's uh, I could have never like given him that as a direction. He just was like, all right, here's here's your album cover. And I'm like, yeah, this is so cool. All right, we're running with it. Yeah.

24:33 Speaker 9: So yeah, sometimes yeah, it's it's awesome to be surprised y because yeah, yeah.

24:38 Speaker 8: Yeah excellent. And then do you guys all have to you all have to agree on it, right, like once you've got the art, like everyone, do you ever have a situation where maybe maybe one of you isn't quite feeling it, like I'm not sure.

24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all pretty much on the same boat with a lot of stuff. It's it's it's really just a matter of working together and when you do it well, like we've done for three straight years now. It's almost too easy. We we write new songs quickly. When Seth comes up with an idea for something like art wise, we're like, can you make a green All right? Cool? Perfect? There it is. I mean, lyrics are something we goof around with and it's it's just simple. We get together, we have fun. We write stuff that you know, fun, we want to write.

25:29 Speaker 1: Fun is key to getting the forward progression that we have had for the last three years. It's just we have fun. I mean, you'll see us on stage. We're goofing off, we're being stupid, we're having fun, and we're playing the music nothing but serious. It's straight faced, straight lace.

25:48 Speaker 9: You know, we're serious in terms of like practicing and making sure that like you know, we can we can play well, we can deliver well, we're on time. We're that band that's like, you know, we're like the considerate ninjas of like load in, load out, you know, like I want to make sure that like the night runs good and like we're we're professionals. But at the same time, when we're up there, we're gonna have a blast. We have fun.

26:09 Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, that's really cool. And when it's when it's easy like that where where you're all on the same page and it's no and nobody's arguing, nobody, you know. I mean, that's you know, hold on to that because that's great. Man's that's when you know you've really got something, when everyone's moving in the same direction and it's it's not hard, it's not contentious, it's just you know, no anxiety. That's that's fantastic. So yeah, no, you guys are definitely on the right track. Speaking of tracks, I think we should play another one.

26:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, what what should we play next? And then we'll we'll talk some more.

26:40 Speaker 1: By always pointing at me, No geez, Honestly, I think a really good one to play would be Majesty. It's one we've been really hitting off with live. It's a fun track. That's to kind of talk about Tempest real quick. This whole album was a really different direction for us as a band. Braggadocio was a very fun song that we we always write fun stuff, and this album happened to be a little bit darker, hence the name Tempest, and the artworks a little bit darker in color, and the lyrics are all a little bit darker in style, But Majesty's about friends who aren't really friends.

27:18 Speaker 1: They're kind of backstabbing jerks that come back into your life and they're like, hey, buddy, let's be friends again. It's like the last time you were around, I lost my cat, my car got stolen, and I somehow was negative three hundred dollars in my bank account. Okay, let's see how this burns me again. So it's talking about people that just kind of check yeah, no, no, no, well.

27:46 Speaker 8: Let's give this a spin. If you are just joining us, We've got the members of Trall here with us alive in studio, and this is called a majesty.

28:06 Speaker 2: Hello Bell, my your friend, it's going to see you last again. It's been a Brown said you broke behead with your a minute.

28:19 Speaker 8: Quite sure, that's awesome.

28:22 Speaker 2: Bacons kinda feel a bit as you played the pillow rash fell and so convincion my joy. The pieces start vollying from the infusion of the life.

29:07 Speaker 6: The one is just doesn't with.

29:10 Speaker 2: That, I can't finally find the ms in such is a born body trim and now it's time to problem with your face down.

29:23 Speaker 5: The back and now tation My goal.

29:43 Speaker 10: Prest your face in this place.

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30:33 Speaker 5: That side? So what to do?

30:43 Speaker 2: The time has come from this funny come to his feet.

30:49 Speaker 6: Broken minds sometimes don't a lot.

30:52 Speaker 2: The frist field of webstads sage the time stories down this tenderos.

30:58 Speaker 8: Shm me to this file, as I like to say. If that doesn't get you move and check your pulse, you might be dead. I love that. That is majesty. The band is Troll. We've got Troll here in the studio with us, and uh yeah, that's another great track. And uh, well done, guys, well done. Where do you record? By the way, everything sounds really great?

31:53 Speaker 9: Where do you?

31:55 Speaker 8: I'm always it's.

31:56 Speaker 1: All pre recorded.

31:57 Speaker 6: It's actually not even ai.

32:02 Speaker 1: It is pretty amazing what you can do now with Tempest. We actually kind of piecemealed this together. We uh, we're big supporters of things. That's you know, that helped things. That's that's the whole point of what we're doing is just try to be positive in this dark world. And Adam actually was able to win from seth one seth one, that's right, Adam used it, but we got some studio time at Halo Studios up in Maine. Yeah, because we uh the Marcathon Mark Curto up and c y Y for the benefits the Center for Grieving Children.

32:37 Speaker 1: So Seth won studio time for Halo bidding on that. So we went up and said, Adam, you have studio time, let's go do five songs. You've got you know, a day. And he did it and not even a day and crushed it. And with the guitars and bass, we actually do it in house because uncle Justy over here owns the Cold Northeast Studios, so we have our own little situation in there where we were able to you know, piecemeal together the guitars and make them sound you know like guitars and stuff. Yeah, kind of. Justin does a great job.

33:11 Speaker 1: He's gonna downplay himself, but he does a fantastic job when it comes to recording that stuff. Because you said you'd buy me a hot dog later, I'm nice. But then that was all in house with guitars and then vocals. We actually worked with John Wyman. I believe this sounds good. Yeah, he's an amazing, amazing person to work with.

33:37 Speaker 6: He's he's a little busy right now. He's working with the small band called the Pretty Reckless. Yeah.

33:41 Speaker 8: Oh, that him came up this morning on the show when I was talking to Wading Abigail.

33:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. He was like, I've got a few weeks before I have to go to New York to record with the Pretty Reckless. And we're like, yeah, well, we'll come in to do vocals. So yeah, I did five sessions and worked with him, and it was just amazing because he was sitting there, He's like, how do you feel about that? And it didn't realize until after they'd talk about the Wyman effect with the vocals, and it's basically he's going to make you realize you wanted to do something. But it was his idea and it was perfect because everything he came up with that helped me push past where we'd been before.

34:18 Speaker 1: It was just it's what needed to be there.

34:20 Speaker 6: And then Seth and I have worked with him for years. We did all of any time that I was in Loki, all the LOGI records were done by it Oh, by Wyman, So we already knew like his style and he just he has a good producer has a way of just pulling that little extra out of you and he's just always been great with that. So we've gotten the chance to work with him before and we're like, Sean, we want to get we want to give you a little bit a little taste of that.

34:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, So having that opportunity was fantastic. I highly recommend if he has the time, people like, book him to do your vocal anything, Yeah, record anything. He's fantastic.

34:52 Speaker 6: It's funny because he has a psychology degree and one day I asked him, like, how does that actually play out in music? He goes more often than you think, Oh, I bet, and then after coming out of a session you're like, oh that's why.

35:04 Speaker 9: Yeah.

35:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was it was piecemeal together and then we had him mix it and then Pat Keene mastered it for us for this new album. So it's most a lot of it. Actually, I think almost all of it has been in house, except for the last couple we've gone a little bit outward.

35:19 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but yeah that also, I mean, you know, the final product sounds great, really really good. Absolutely do you sell you You brought us a couple of physical copies, you sell those at shows and absolutely I'm the thing that's I was talking to. I forget who it was now. It's probably a conversation I've had with a lot of guests. But there seems to be I feel like in the last five or six years kind of a newfound, uh focus on physical media because I've been I've been interviewing bands on the radio for a very long time, and there was definitely a period where nobody was doing that, you know what I mean, where it was like everything was everything was digital, or there was even a period where and I'm glad this is passed, but there was a time when so everyone would release everything digitally, but they would show up This was before I was at W M and H. But they would show up with a CD.

36:13 Speaker 8: They'd do the classic not even in a case, just handy a CD with and they are not sometimes not even a slips like on a finger.

36:23 Speaker 3: You know.

36:23 Speaker 1: Here you go it's like, well that's sper not scratching that.

36:26 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly exactly. Although we do actually so here we have a CD player. I think Rob as a Vedo who wants to show here called granted state of Mind on Friday nights. I think he's the only one who uses it, but we do have one and we even have a turntable here now. One of the guys who wants to show here brought it in and he said, you know, whoever wants to use it can, so so that's pretty cool. But and vinyl too, like there seems to be a new new focus on vinyl the really.

36:52 Speaker 1: And so getting a little circumvent there, like a big thing for us has always been physical first, then digital. Yeah, and some of ours that do a podcast actually noticed that data. Remember just recently did the exact same thing where they released all the physical stuff for their album and then said in a month, you can have the digital, and they were like, you guys kinda kind of did that first. And it's like, I mean we like physical stuff. Seth and I are huge in the vinyl and collect Like I had a huge CD collection up until recently, and I still have one.

37:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, he still has one. I mean you still use an iPod to hold your music, so wow. But the physical part's always been huge for us because I grew up going to CD in record stores, buying as much CDs as I could, and then like my parents being like, where are you going to keep all this crap? You have like hundred CDs in your bedroom and you have like two milk crates that are just overflowing. It's like, yeah, I don't care, I need CDs. Yeah, that was a big thing, was physical seth and I've always talked about we want to make sure we do it right by what we would want when we were kids, because I know as a kid growing up, if I got a new CD, that was my world.

38:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the month, Oh yeah, the greatest thing ever.

38:09 Speaker 6: Half of the enjoyment of the music was sitting there, like opening up the CDs. Oh yeah, reading the lyrics totally.

38:15 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so it's been an important part for us. And also got to shout out Bull Moose Music because Bull Moose has carried all of our EPs. I know that there's one down here, and then there's one in Portsmith. I think there's one in Keen, but yeah they there. You know, there's I think ten record stores and they've carried our stuff for the entire time, and it's it's been huge. We all grew up buying records there and and yeah we have you know, some of us have big vinyl collections as well.

38:45 Speaker 1: And okay, you have a big vinyl collection. I have like thirty or forty. You've got way more than me.

38:50 Speaker 9: So yeah, I have a living control. But yeah, so I'm a big I'm big into the vinyl. But but eventually, for us, it's a goal, it's a dream. I'd love to press something on vinyl. Yeah, even if it's kind of like a collected you know piece or or you know.

39:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've played around with the idea for a while now with you know, kind of not even like the greatest hits, just a we've done so far four EPs, and it's like we could take a couple of songs off each of them, and we've played around with like calling it like the chum Bucket and other things to just kind of make it like this is a vinyl because Set's pressed vinyl before with one of his previous vans, and I've never had that opportunity, and it's like, I wouldn't mind my own vinyl.

39:38 Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of this ultimate right of passage, I think, because you know, I mean, for the for the longest period of recorded the recorded music industry, vinyl was king, and then you had your CD era in the nineties and early two thousands, but it's just a lot of music, you know, was that's the format that it was created to be on, and nothing, nothing sounds better kind of a write of passage to it.

40:06 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're hoping to get that soon. I say soon, but we're hoping to do that at some point in the near future, as long as Adele and Taylor Swift don't mess that up and buy all the vinyl in the world, you know.

40:19 Speaker 10: Years.

40:20 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's hard to get in the schedule.

40:22 Speaker 6: Just be Jack White sitting in a back room in Nashville. No, guys, it's still.

40:26 Speaker 8: Good, very cool. And then so what's what's kind of the uh, this has been out for a little while, right, or how long has this been out?

40:36 Speaker 6: Tempest?

40:36 Speaker 9: So we released that in October of last year, October twenty twenty four, Okay.

40:42 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not too too long. So do you have are you already planning for the next one or are you still we.

40:47 Speaker 1: Have already started right, yeah, yeah, we've got some fun stuff. It's it's we we always kind of find ourselves in these situations when we're writing that. You know, what, what are we listening to and what's kind of driving us into certain directions and then honestly, we got this new song called Autumn in a Car that I can't wait for people to hear it. Yeah, it's really fun. I love the way we've written it and you know, put it together. We have another one that we're working on that's interesting.

41:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're working our way around building it properly. And we just had practice past Thursday night and we did we kind of pieced together two songs that are in the beginning stages that I think they'll definitely end up on the next EP year.

41:32 Speaker 6: I think writing for us never really stops. Yes, it's just a perpetual thing. And then at some point we're like, all right, we got enough, let's yeah, let's fine tune these five and stick them out. Yeah, we can be working on those and still end up coming up with more riffs and it's like, oh, we'll just save that for those that right, right.

41:47 Speaker 9: So the forty p's that we have have been every year, so OK, twenty one was Shark Pinata, twenty two was from the Murky Depths, twenty three was Cosmic Aquatic, and then twenty four was Tempest. So yeah, I don't know if we'll be able to do the fifth one in this physical year. We'll see, Okay, writing I would say, but yeah, it might be a Christmas, it might be a very Christmas. Who knows.

42:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very sharky Christmas, very sharky Christmas.

42:19 Speaker 8: Right right, Well we should uh, we should play another one. What do you guys want to play next? We'll hear another studio track here so here so so yeah, yeah, yeah, we were talking about this one earlier. What should we know about this before we hear it anything.

42:36 Speaker 6: I always thought it was going to be like the radio hit.

42:39 Speaker 1: Really yeah.

42:39 Speaker 6: I thought it was the closest we've come to like a standard format.

42:43 Speaker 1: It's pretty solidly there. It's it's yeah, a little bit less heavy, Yeah, it's a bit less heavy.

42:49 Speaker 3: It is.

42:49 Speaker 1: Again, like I said before, the music for this album and lyrical content was a lot darker. So this one is about a lot of people in the world, know this, somebody cheating on you with their cell phone and you know, you're laying in bed, you just got home from a fifteen hour shift and you lay down and you're like, why are they on their phone? It's three in the morning. What is going And that's you know, the whole thing. Is somebody using their cell phone to be a dirt bag, you know, to not be a good person, and yeah it stinks absolutely Well.

43:24 Speaker 8: Yeah this will be relatable for a lot of people, no doubt, no doubt. Well let's give this a spend. If you are just joining us, we have trall here with us in studio and this is called cell.

43:57 Speaker 3: Righting s no.

44:03 Speaker 4: Snow and so.

44:07 Speaker 10: So nice.

44:09 Speaker 5: I'm got to say something.

44:13 Speaker 7: I get some sounding too.

44:17 Speaker 3: It's a potamous.

44:22 Speaker 5: So that's not drama stick but I know this.

44:27 Speaker 2: I'm going there when we set time, I mean, miles,

44:39 Speaker 2: I'm joying.

44:42 Speaker 5: I got. It's telling me.

45:05 Speaker 2: Go live there.

45:08 Speaker 7: In a Saturn world.

45:11 Speaker 2: Whither's word and deal and snake?

45:15 Speaker 5: That's tad and what you did was lost.

45:20 Speaker 10: I'm gonna show yourself.

45:24 Speaker 5: I guess I'm solid.

45:28 Speaker 10: It's no w.

45:32 Speaker 3: Sus my life for you.

45:36 Speaker 8: Well, I know this time come up.

45:41 Speaker 2: O when we set time night, I'm miles of.

45:49 Speaker 5: I'm going mine. I got.

46:30 Speaker 7: I can say your son, but I guess it's.

46:35 Speaker 5: Soundly to liston what it is.

46:43 Speaker 2: Besides, well I know the stall daughter.

46:51 Speaker 3: Go wait.

46:57 Speaker 5: My son, are you doing? Going on?

47:15 Speaker 8: So the band is troll and that is really really good. I can see, I can see where you guys would think, you know, this might be a radio hit because that's yeah, it's catchy as hell, really good and relatable, you know, lyrics as we were talking about before, so all.

47:43 Speaker 6: That good nineties music we grew up listening to.

47:45 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

47:47 Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely. So what's what's what's next for you guys? Like, what's kind of the short term or the long term?

47:54 Speaker 1: Much future?

47:56 Speaker 8: Right he owes you a hot dog?

47:58 Speaker 1: Yes, well, long longer term. I mean, we're just gonna keep grinding away at what we're doing. We're having fun writing music together. We're doing just what we want to do. And it's weird to say that as a band because we've all been in bands where it's like, okay, just just keep working, just work, and it's like, this isn't work anymore. It's it's fun. We go to practice, we hang out for a bit, you know, talk about crap, and then we write these great songs that we have fun writing and recording. And I think, I mean, we've got a really good slew of shows this year set up.

48:39 Speaker 9: It's definitely the year of the shows, definitely. Yeah, I think it's shaping up to be probably our busiest year ever nice in terms of shows. You know, we we were just getting going before the pandemic. You know, we had like one solid year to really play and then from then, you know, it was kind of a gradual slow climb back to normal, you know, playing shows. But this year is shaping up to you know, we're just we're taking on a good amount of shows, and and not necessarily because we've done we've had the honor of doing some bigger stuff.

49:14 Speaker 9: We've you know, open for some cool national acts and things. But this year it's really been a lot about our own shows, you know, building our own shows and figuring out kind of our way to be sustainable, no matter if we're playing at a big room or a small room with a killer PA sounds some more like barely any sound system, you know, just learning how to be you know, work together as a team and be super sustainable.

49:41 Speaker 1: And not only that, just just focus on having fun. That's the big thing. Every show we've played this year, it's just the main priority. Like, yes, there's four people here, just have fun. Yeah, just have fun, because guess what four people or four thousand people if you put on the same show and have fun. Everyone will know it and feel it. And we've had shows in recent memory that we're like, yeah, there is four people here, so this is a really fancy practice. But we're just gonna still have fun with it because if I'm not putting my all on the stage, I know people will notice it, right, And Adam will definitely feed off of my energy, and I feed off of his, and justin I mean we all feed off of each other.

50:21 Speaker 1: When the songs start going and our sample pad hits and we hear like the intros we use and all the sound effects, Yeah, we have into this groove and we can like look at each other and it's just like this almost like a.

50:37 Speaker 6: Like a.

50:39 Speaker 1: A crap eating grin where you're just like, we're gonna have fun. Yeah, and it's just you look at each other and then it's like there goes and again having fun. It relaxes you when you're on stage. I've been I know we've had shows where we've traveled like two hours to get there. Yeah, it's stressful. You're driving for two hours and you don't know if anything is going to show, and then all of a sudden you look out there and you're like, wow, there's a lot of people here.

51:03 Speaker 8: Yep.

51:04 Speaker 1: Oh, there's our sound effect. It's rolling. And I look back at Adham and he's just smiling, and then I look at Seth and he's got the same smile on. And Justin just looks at me like, don't fall on my stuff, like don't touch me. Yeah, and then we get going and it's it's fun. We have fun. That's it.

51:22 Speaker 8: Yeah, I can say, no, that's that's great. That's the key. That's the key, right, What should people know about where to find you guys online? And where's the best place to go? So best place to go trollband dot com. It's got everything, all of our links to all of our social media. It's a good website. By the way, I'm a web design nerd. I pay a lot of it. I'm like like like the guy from Rock, except I critique websites. But it's a good site because I say that because there's a lot of a lot of musicians, as I'm sure you guys know, have terrible websites and it's like, oh my god, what are you doing?

51:58 Speaker 9: Yeah, so yeah, that's the best hub to go. We're also on all the all the sites out there, you know, everything from like the Spotify and your Apple Music and your band camp and but and then you know, we're out there brick and mortar record stores as well, all those outlets.

52:12 Speaker 1: So yeah, come bind us on all the social medias.

52:14 Speaker 9: Yeah, find us.

52:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love hanging you know, we love talking with people. We make friends like Nate Dog. Shout out, shout out Nate Dog. But we love you know, we love interacting with people, and and just hit us up. We love talking to people. If you find our music and you dig it, let us know. We love to hear it because it makes us feel like we did right by going, hey, this was fun to write. And then yeah, somebody's like that song really cool. It's like, okay, we didn't we didn't miss this one, right.

52:43 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Like, well, listen, I want to thank all four of you for coming in.

52:52 Speaker 9: This has been great.

52:53 Speaker 8: Sean Adam Seth justin.

52:55 Speaker 9: Thank you all, thank you for having me, thank you, thank you so much.

52:57 Speaker 8: Absolutely thank you for for coming all this way too. That's you know, it's a little bit of a haul in the rain. So I really appreciate you guys, and we will of course close out the segment with let's see what can we ow sos that's the one we have not played yet, And what should we know about this one anything, Here's the deep.

53:12 Speaker 1: One, here's the Here's well, this is the second deep one. I'd say on the album. The one track that I think you mentioned you might play later is called Nova. That one's for loss. If you've ever lost anyone, family, friend, pet, It's it's not meant to be happy. I We'll save that for the next time we come down here to talk with you, Matt. But SOS is it's written from a very dark place in my own and honestly, the one thing I will say about this song is if you need help, ask for help. Yes, whether it's mental, financial, religious, it doesn't matter.

53:48 Speaker 1: There are people in this world who will talk to you, who will listen to you, who will help you. And if you don't ask for help, what are you doing. You're messing yourself up. You're not getting the energy that you need in your life to be a good person, to go further and maybe change somebody else's life. Yes, I know from writing the lyrics to this song, I was in a very bad place, and honestly, it was I don't remember who it was in the band, but somebody sent me a message and it just changed. It flipped the switch and it was I was going to get you a hot there it is.

54:23 Speaker 1: It was a hot dog talk, but it changed perspective and gave me a new focus to keep my head above ground. And honestly, if it weren't for these guys, these are my best friends. If it weren't for these guys, I wouldn't be here. And this song is my way of saying, if you need help, please please, For the love of whoever you pray to, it doesn't matter.

54:45 Speaker 10: Ask.

54:47 Speaker 1: There are priests, they are a psychologists. There's your best friend, there's your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, your dog, your cat, your bartender, your bartender, your bearded dragon, or the urn that's on your mantle that is your great grandmother. Yeah, talk to somebody because getting that help can change your entire world, and you may end up doing something that changes somebody else's world that keeps them here. And that person who knows, they could cure cancer, they could be the next president, they could be who knows.

55:16 Speaker 1: But if you don't ask for help, you're just shooting yourself in the foot and it's not okay. So talking is huge and mental health is a big thing that is still stigmatized negatively. Absolutely, So if you have even here, I'll say it right now. If you want to talk to us, we'll listen. Get us up on all our social media's, send us an email, we'll talk with you. We have.

55:41 Speaker 9: We've done it a lot too. You know, people have reached out and it's something that like I'm proud of that, Like, you know, since this song has come out, said a lot of people kind of reach out to us.

55:52 Speaker 10: Wow.

55:52 Speaker 1: And some good friends of ours have reached out.

55:55 Speaker 8: Wow.

55:55 Speaker 9: I absolutely I love that aspect of it, Like, please reach out to us. We'd love to talk, you know, with you about anything. It doesn't have to be about deep stuff. It could just be like talk about our favorite music corners, had a.

56:05 Speaker 1: Terrible day, my car broke down, Like yeah, we'll talk about you. Yeah, come to a show and talk to us. Because that's even better because then if you need a hug because you're feeling depressed enough that you might try to do something, I'll hug the crap out of you. I'll stand there all night and drink PEPSI and hug you.

56:21 Speaker 6: I'm hugged bunny.

56:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, hug bunny right there. It's we want people to be here because not only are you here, but you can make a difference in this world, whether it's positive negative it you might change the whole perspective of somebody's life.

56:36 Speaker 9: Yeah.

56:36 Speaker 1: If you just take one second to send a text message, a phone call, an email, drive twenty minutes to your your grandmother's house and see how she's doing, sit down with her. Yeah, what are you doing. You're making somebody's day better and it could be your day. Yeah, so ask for help. That's what I'm saying.

56:53 Speaker 8: No, very very well said. I love it. I absolutely love it. Awesome. Well, now I'm especially excited to play this. So guys, thank you again.

57:01 Speaker 9: This is S O S.

57:03 Speaker 8: The band is Stroll and thank you so much.

57:05 Speaker 9: Guys, thank you, thank you.

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58:31 Speaker 7: So how it Rob, I'm not selling, I'm.

58:45 Speaker 10: Getting stop.

58:51 Speaker 1: All these team bands inside.

58:57 Speaker 5: Boys just coming up.

59:06 Speaker 4: That's a rush of.

59:37 Speaker 7: Cow mead in Selma.

59:40 Speaker 10: You know, I'm media and Salmon.

59:44 Speaker 5: I'm mean in Salmon.

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1:00:09 Speaker 3: Why did I hurt them?

1:00:10 Speaker 7: Why didn't I show the pay? Why do I go from here? Why can't I be normal?

1:00:17 Speaker 5: Why do I hurt?

1:00:20 Speaker 1: Why don't we hurt.

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