Swarmiefest 4 | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: All right, that is pushed. The band is Sepsis. Welcome everybody.

0:02 Speaker 1: We have entered our number three New Marrow trace of

0:05 Speaker 1: Matt Connorton, unleashed and we are live from the studios

0:08 Speaker 1: of WM and H ninety five point three FM and

0:10 Speaker 1: Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. If you are listening live. Today

0:14 Speaker 1: is Saturday, November fifteen, twenty twenty five, and it's the

0:16 Speaker 1: big day. Swarmy Fest is here, the day we wait

0:19 Speaker 1: for all year and we are very pleased to have.

0:23 Speaker 1: So we have Sepsis in the studio with us. Hello everybody, Yeah,

0:28 Speaker 1: Zachi be over there. Who's leaving the band?

0:31 Speaker 2: Wait?

0:31 Speaker 1: Mention that? So are you having auditions already, William.

0:35 Speaker 3: Or what's Well's that's one way you could translate it,

0:40 Speaker 3: I should call that. So there really is a process,

0:42 Speaker 3: and the first process, because we're a social media band, yeah,

0:46 Speaker 3: is to like the band, learn a song and upload

0:51 Speaker 3: it to the internet.

0:52 Speaker 1: Yeah.

0:53 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of people that have shown interest,

0:55 Speaker 3: but nobody who's really gotten past step one. Okay, okay, Yeah,

0:59 Speaker 3: Zach beat packy Be is like step twelve, right right,

1:02 Speaker 3: so he really set the standard. Yeah, so we kind

1:07 Speaker 3: of now we kind of know, more close to what

1:09 Speaker 3: we're looking for long term.

1:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's always always a prospers. We're

1:14 Speaker 1: not in a rush though, right, okay, good good, Yeah,

1:17 Speaker 1: that's not something you want to rush into certainly. Uh

1:19 Speaker 1: Melissa is here of course as well. Hell well, welcome

1:22 Speaker 1: back and uh over there is a Lexi. Who is this?

1:26 Speaker 1: Is it right? This is the big debut?

1:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the big debut.

1:29 Speaker 3: On stage out with the band. Very good, Actually, it's

1:33 Speaker 3: pretty good. She's being demoted.

1:35 Speaker 1: Oh, it's not a step down from well, the band member.

1:42 Speaker 3: I could. I think it's I think it's spiraling up.

1:44 Speaker 3: It's just a different department. But like in the business

1:47 Speaker 3: in our company, the treasury, but the merch girl actually

1:53 Speaker 3: has a higher administrative oh rank.

1:56 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so so you've lost your power. It sounds

1:59 Speaker 1: like alexis yeah the one player. There you go, there

2:04 Speaker 1: you go. I'm a creative role yeah yeah, no, outstanding.

2:08 Speaker 1: So now we need a merch girl. So now you

2:11 Speaker 1: need a bass player and a merch girl. Yeah wow, okay,

2:13 Speaker 1: all right, So who else is in is in the

2:15 Speaker 1: room with us? We have various.

2:17 Speaker 3: Everyone hears auditioning for merch and bass.

2:21 Speaker 1: Merch excellent, excellent.

2:24 Speaker 3: So this is the crazy thing. But a lot of

2:29 Speaker 3: us are Halo players, okay, And for ten years Melissa

2:35 Speaker 3: has a gaming community called Inclusive Community Gaming.

2:40 Speaker 4: I don't screw it up.

2:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you meet all kinds of crazy people

2:49 Speaker 3: online anyway, But we play Xbox and is for those

2:54 Speaker 3: of you that are familiar with Halo, it the multiplayer

2:57 Speaker 3: respawn shooter. It's an older game, yeah, but there are

3:00 Speaker 3: newer versions of it and you can play multiplayer with

3:03 Speaker 3: people all over the world. So we have a game

3:06 Speaker 3: in community. And we're not just a band. We're also

3:09 Speaker 3: a game in community.

3:10 Speaker 1: Yeah.

3:11 Speaker 3: And in all of our communities, you know, people have

3:14 Speaker 3: things in common if they find common ground a lot

3:16 Speaker 3: of times. And like, video games in general are like

3:21 Speaker 3: one of the last untapped markets for advertising. Like it's

3:25 Speaker 3: one of the it's one of the few places where

3:26 Speaker 3: you can go online where there isn't a pop up okay, right,

3:30 Speaker 3: Like if you're playing a video game, there isn't constant

3:32 Speaker 3: advertisements for Nike.

3:34 Speaker 1: And yeah, I never thought, I never thought. I never

3:36 Speaker 1: thought about it before. But there must be some games

3:38 Speaker 1: that have some sort of mobile games. Yeah, mobile games

3:41 Speaker 1: are big on advertising. Okay, okay, but all of this

3:44 Speaker 1: is changing too. Oh that makes sense, yes, yes.

3:49 Speaker 3: Yes, But so we've had the game in community and

3:53 Speaker 3: originally the first time we ever did like a band

3:57 Speaker 3: created festival, like something that we organize our selves. Yeah

4:00 Speaker 3: we uh, most is gaming community came down and sponsored it.

4:05 Speaker 1: Okay.

4:06 Speaker 3: So that's kind of where we started to get the

4:08 Speaker 3: idea for this originally because a lot of are the

4:11 Speaker 3: people that we play games with and and and we

4:14 Speaker 3: play Halo. They're from all over the country. Okay, so

4:17 Speaker 3: some of the people in this room are people that

4:20 Speaker 3: we play Halo with real yeah, and they may and

4:23 Speaker 3: they may they may not be directly related to our

4:25 Speaker 3: game and community. But like our friend Lindors is here.

4:29 Speaker 3: That's his gamer tagged guy and read he's he's from

4:31 Speaker 3: New Orleans and he came up wow for the show.

4:35 Speaker 3: So he brought himself and in some of his friends.

4:39 Speaker 3: And Eric is a good friend of ours from PA

4:43 Speaker 3: we played. We get around when we can, and and

4:47 Speaker 3: he is a returning swarm me fact. I don't know

4:50 Speaker 3: if you remember before, but he's returned. This is your

4:52 Speaker 3: third time I think coming so oh second second, so

4:58 Speaker 3: he's returning and and Bernie and Ed in the corner

5:03 Speaker 3: there are like they are like they're almost like band members.

5:08 Speaker 1: Okay, but like the.

5:09 Speaker 3: Closest thing that you could be as like staff or

5:13 Speaker 3: band members. Okay, the og okay, all right. And then

5:18 Speaker 3: in the doorway, the young fellow with the dreads is

5:21 Speaker 3: my son. Oh, he works for me for free today.

5:26 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice.

5:28 Speaker 3: And behind him is staff member Rints. Okay, he's a Scepts,

5:34 Speaker 3: a staff member.

5:35 Speaker 1: Oh, very good, very good.

5:36 Speaker 3: Hell and he has a girlfriend Maggie with him. Okay,

5:40 Speaker 3: all right, that's a lot of people.

5:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very nice, excellent, excellent. So let's talk about.

5:47 Speaker 3: Tonight Swarmy Fest. One thing about swarm Fest. We always

5:51 Speaker 3: bring new bands. Yes, I can't ask these guys to

5:53 Speaker 3: keep coming back and showing the same bands, right, unfair.

5:56 Speaker 3: So one thing I have to promise is that remains

6:01 Speaker 3: something that's grassroots, you know, something where we want to

6:05 Speaker 3: grow it and we hope that it continues to get

6:08 Speaker 3: bigger and we continue to do it because people request

6:11 Speaker 3: us every year to do it. Yeah. So as long

6:14 Speaker 3: as people are having fun and they request us doing it,

6:18 Speaker 3: and they request cool features, Me and Melissa and Lexi,

6:21 Speaker 3: everybody in the band are going to try to make

6:22 Speaker 3: that happen. And the goal is to grow it, but

6:25 Speaker 3: not grow it to the point where we can't have

6:28 Speaker 3: a conversation on the phone yea, or we can't have

6:32 Speaker 3: a solution. Because one of the big things that we

6:35 Speaker 3: see with festivals or big shows is they get so

6:38 Speaker 3: big or so corporate, oh yeah, that people can't supervise

6:41 Speaker 3: or manage it right barely.

6:44 Speaker 1: It becomes this monster that's hard to even come all.

6:47 Speaker 3: Right, you got to have then you have to start

6:49 Speaker 3: making friends with lawyers and you got this, you have

6:52 Speaker 3: to know how to speak in court. That's not the

6:54 Speaker 3: kind of relationships that we want to make.

6:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not for us.

6:59 Speaker 3: Right. We don't want to be so professional or so

7:01 Speaker 3: industry that we need to hire people to live out

7:03 Speaker 3: this dream for us.

7:04 Speaker 1: Right, we should talk about the lineup. So, of course,

7:07 Speaker 1: obviously sepsis Silent Season, under the Horizon, Pulsifier, Temptress, and

7:13 Speaker 1: the Cherry Fog. It's quite a show.

7:15 Speaker 3: I'm blown away.

7:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it, Yeah, absolutely, And these are all

7:18 Speaker 1: we were talking earlier, Jenny and I too, about how

7:20 Speaker 1: these are all bands that have been on the show

7:22 Speaker 1: except for the cherry Fog, but I did, but I

7:24 Speaker 1: was checking them out and I love them and I

7:28 Speaker 1: have been.

7:29 Speaker 3: Like corresponding with them.

7:30 Speaker 1: Yeah.

7:31 Speaker 3: So I think they were hoping that they could come

7:33 Speaker 3: on some time in the near future.

7:36 Speaker 1: Oh definitely.

7:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get them. Mind, I'll try to

7:38 Speaker 3: make that. I'll try to keep that conversation going.

7:40 Speaker 1: Really good, really good. And then, uh, and who are

7:44 Speaker 1: a Lilith Cat and the Blood Witch again?

7:46 Speaker 3: Yeah? So they are horror alternative dancers models, and I

7:56 Speaker 3: think I think Lilith Cat does some like like like

8:01 Speaker 3: restraint or like I don't know what you would call it.

8:05 Speaker 1: Like dangling.

8:08 Speaker 3: No, no, no, is that what it's called? Yeah? Yeah,

8:12 Speaker 3: you know when I'm just forgive me, I don't have

8:13 Speaker 3: the education English for it, but you know when they

8:17 Speaker 3: either do like hooks or ropes they okay.

8:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, oh interesting, interesting, okay, okay.

8:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they they have they have a stage dancing

8:32 Speaker 3: performance right before the steps that set.

8:34 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, excellent, time, excellent, excellent. So we should talk

8:39 Speaker 1: about the sponsors. So, of course, you know, we're very

8:40 Speaker 1: honored and privileged Matt Connorton unleash to be involved as always,

8:43 Speaker 1: and we have Legion of Solace on with us in

8:46 Speaker 1: the last hour. Let's see. So also speed Gamon Promotions.

8:49 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, shout out to Josh and the yep.

8:51 Speaker 1: Okay, and what do they what do they do? Exactly?

8:55 Speaker 1: Think I think Josh was supposed to be on the

8:56 Speaker 1: show with us at one point and have the reschedule.

8:58 Speaker 3: But I love Josh and and I'm trying to I'm

9:01 Speaker 3: always trying to get him on this show. Yeah, yeah,

9:04 Speaker 3: because he has just such a wealth of information. He's

9:07 Speaker 3: a vet. Yeah, he's a straight shooter. Yeah, and he

9:12 Speaker 3: as well as everybody that's sponsoring this show. We keep

9:15 Speaker 3: a close circle. And the reason why we do that

9:18 Speaker 3: is so we can all communicate. And what we're communicating

9:23 Speaker 3: is the same type of goals of like community enrichment,

9:28 Speaker 3: independent business to business relationships, long term growth, you know,

9:35 Speaker 3: not screw o who's a little guy, creating opportunities where

9:40 Speaker 3: you know, there's not a lot of money in rock

9:42 Speaker 3: and roll, in local music, but we want to try

9:45 Speaker 3: to create events where they're incentivized, they're fair. If people

9:50 Speaker 3: do get paid, they're getting paid fairly, right, that's it.

9:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So is that kind of what Josh is doing?

9:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that's his theme and we both we

10:02 Speaker 3: both resonate and share that same goal. Yeah, and we

10:06 Speaker 3: we we tend to have the same sponsors come back,

10:10 Speaker 3: I think because I think I spoke on this before.

10:14 Speaker 3: You all do such a great job, and we don't

10:17 Speaker 3: want to take up a lot of flyer space, right

10:20 Speaker 3: with people clout chasing or you know, and if you

10:23 Speaker 3: and if you have a flyer and you put one

10:26 Speaker 3: hundred sponsors on it, and people tend to overlook it, right, Yeah,

10:30 Speaker 3: So we really want to have a little more quality

10:33 Speaker 3: over quantity, especially this year. Yeah. It's hard to do

10:37 Speaker 3: ten bands in two rooms. Oh yeah, and then some

10:39 Speaker 3: bands get missed or some people don't get to see.

10:43 Speaker 1: Did you do that two years ago? Obviously you didn't

10:45 Speaker 1: do that at U Tafada, but two years ago at

10:47 Speaker 1: Julia did that, right, Yeah?

10:49 Speaker 3: And I don't think I do it again. And and

10:51 Speaker 3: it's because we still want to be the type the

10:56 Speaker 3: type of people that can hang out with everybody a

10:58 Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, and we want to be able to

11:02 Speaker 3: We want Swormy Fest to continue to be a social event.

11:05 Speaker 3: As I was being able to like support the bands

11:08 Speaker 3: and check out a few vendors. It's also a place

11:10 Speaker 3: where people can talk about culture and art and share

11:14 Speaker 3: their ideas. Swormy Fest is a safe space, so people

11:18 Speaker 3: can speak there and beat themselves and support the bands

11:22 Speaker 3: at the same time.

11:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's see also violets rain for all the sponsors.

11:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. And Gypsy is a good friend of mine. She

11:32 Speaker 3: she brings in like healing oils candles Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,

11:40 Speaker 3: this this year, we wanted to go with with a

11:42 Speaker 3: magical theme. Okay, you know, you know, healing aroma therapy.

11:50 Speaker 3: She does. I think she's making a black light invasion

11:52 Speaker 3: steps as candle.

11:53 Speaker 1: Okidd Oh, that's cool. That's a cool idea.

11:56 Speaker 4: You's got a bunch of stones and things too.

11:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. Danee Lin's creations is similar where it's like everything

12:06 Speaker 3: from like patches and trinkets and you know, self help,

12:10 Speaker 3: motivation and LGBT inclusive themes.

12:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, knitting, crochet.

12:17 Speaker 3: Chakra stones. Yeah, and of course you know, and you

12:21 Speaker 3: get all the bands there with this stuff.

12:22 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then what about BPS Records? Are they

12:25 Speaker 1: still gonna be there?

12:25 Speaker 5: I know?

12:26 Speaker 1: And they were, they were supposed to be on the

12:27 Speaker 1: show with us, and I know there was some sort

12:28 Speaker 1: of an emergency, So I don't know if there.

12:30 Speaker 3: Is, I'm not I hope they can make it to

12:33 Speaker 3: the actual Yeah. So yeah, I've yet to get a

12:36 Speaker 3: full update.

12:37 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, I hope everything's okay with them. I know,

12:40 Speaker 1: I know something went wrong, but hopefully nothing too serious.

12:42 Speaker 3: But when you have a show like this, this is

12:43 Speaker 3: the weirdest thing, and not just the part I don't

12:46 Speaker 3: like when you have a show like this because it's

12:49 Speaker 3: getting a little bit bigger. You know, you start off

12:51 Speaker 3: with thirty people, then yeah, forty people, but as the

12:55 Speaker 3: show gets bigger, the more people, you know, you make

12:59 Speaker 3: relationships with and you're trying to hold it together. If

13:03 Speaker 3: you have the larger your audience, something's going to go wrong.

13:06 Speaker 3: Oh of course with somebody. You know, if you have

13:08 Speaker 3: an audience attend people, the likelihood of somebody twisting their

13:12 Speaker 3: ankles a little low. But once you have an audience

13:14 Speaker 3: of seventy five people, somebody's mother passes away. Yeah, somebody

13:21 Speaker 3: gets sick that week. So you know, when you have

13:23 Speaker 3: a show at this size and you're one of the organizers,

13:27 Speaker 3: you kind of have to prepare for some a little

13:29 Speaker 3: bit disappointment.

13:30 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you have to.

13:31 Speaker 3: It's not really prepared. My job isn't prepared for things

13:34 Speaker 3: to go well, right, it's kind of and my job

13:37 Speaker 3: is to prepare for how am I going to behave

13:42 Speaker 3: and how am I not? How am I going to

13:45 Speaker 3: respond and not react when things don't go my way?

13:49 Speaker 1: Exactly? Exactly? Have you had this is the fourth fourth

13:54 Speaker 1: Swarmy Fest. Have you had a lot of surprises over

13:57 Speaker 1: the years doing this or My impression is that the

14:00 Speaker 1: things have gone smoothly overall, right, But I mean I'm sure,

14:03 Speaker 1: I'm sure things go wrong.

14:07 Speaker 3: That is a that is a fair impression. We have

14:09 Speaker 3: a lot of people working on this.

14:10 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's not like you've got a good team.

14:13 Speaker 3: I do, and then and and many of them are

14:15 Speaker 3: in this room. Yeah so, and we're working on it

14:17 Speaker 3: all year.

14:18 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:19 Speaker 3: I want to give a special shout out to my

14:21 Speaker 3: partner for Swarmy Fest, Larry Loud from Loud Entertainment.

14:25 Speaker 1: Oh he's great. Yeah, we had him and uh, I'm

14:27 Speaker 1: never sure.

14:29 Speaker 3: Yep.

14:30 Speaker 1: We had them on the on the show not too

14:31 Speaker 1: long ago. Hopefully. Baboo's okay. I know he has some health.

14:34 Speaker 3: He's doing good, he's at he's at their new club tonight,

14:36 Speaker 3: the Canary they got, they got, they got that big

14:39 Speaker 3: club now up in Massachusetts. Yeah, so he's doing that,

14:42 Speaker 3: but Larry will be there tonight.

14:44 Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent. Yeah. Yeah, he's a nice guy.

14:46 Speaker 3: Yep.

14:46 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:47 Speaker 1: And how did that come about working with Loud Entertainment

14:49 Speaker 1: because you didn't have them on board?

14:52 Speaker 3: Want me to tell you the truth?

14:53 Speaker 2: Yeah?

14:53 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:55 Speaker 3: So the truth is we were doing an event and

14:58 Speaker 3: I won't say where, but we were doing an event

15:02 Speaker 3: and Larry wanted to book us for a show.

15:04 Speaker 1: Why won't Why won't you say where? I'm curious? Can

15:06 Speaker 1: you say why? You won't say where?

15:09 Speaker 3: Just because because people become emotional and and and there

15:13 Speaker 3: are there are levels of emotional where people tend to

15:15 Speaker 3: throw out rational thought. Okay, and that's just something I'm

15:18 Speaker 3: not going to engage with people online because then it

15:20 Speaker 3: becomes negative and if it's negative, it's a failure.

15:24 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:25 Speaker 3: Okay, so you know I don't kiss and tell.

15:27 Speaker 1: Ok fair enough.

15:30 Speaker 3: But Larry was asking, you know, promoters want to know

15:35 Speaker 3: who can you get in the door? Can you get

15:36 Speaker 3: five people? Can you get ten people? It's not ugly,

15:39 Speaker 3: but it.

15:40 Speaker 1: Is a question that Yeah, it's a valid, valid concern.

15:42 Speaker 3: So you know, if you got a room capacity it

15:46 Speaker 3: two fifty promoters interested in you, they're gonna they might

15:51 Speaker 3: ask a band, or they might ask the talent. Hey,

15:53 Speaker 3: how many people do you think? How many tickets? How

15:55 Speaker 3: many pre sale tickets do you think you can sell?

15:58 Speaker 3: And I, you know, I I have an open door.

16:01 Speaker 3: I have a pretty open policy. Yeah, you know, we sepstants.

16:04 Speaker 3: We show our mistakes.

16:06 Speaker 1: Yeah.

16:08 Speaker 3: So he said, what would you get at your last show?

16:12 Speaker 3: And I said, oh, you know, go ask the promoters themselves.

16:16 Speaker 3: I said, don't take my word for it. Get in

16:19 Speaker 3: touch with the venue, and I want you to double

16:22 Speaker 3: check to so you can see what our attendance was.

16:26 Speaker 3: So he had been in contact with the venue and

16:29 Speaker 3: they said, oh, well, Sepsis, they only brought sixty people

16:33 Speaker 3: to the show, so I wouldn't recommend them. They said

16:40 Speaker 3: that we that Sepsis only brought sixty people to the show,

16:44 Speaker 3: and that we're not a big enough band, which I accepted,

16:48 Speaker 3: and then I reminded them all that not many bands

16:52 Speaker 3: in New England get twenty five people in the door.

16:55 Speaker 3: It's tough, yeah, yeah, And I'm not trying to be

16:58 Speaker 3: mean right, I'm trying to tell the truth right exactly.

17:04 Speaker 3: You can think whatever thought and focus on that, but

17:11 Speaker 3: ignoring your thoughts and focusing on the truth that the

17:14 Speaker 3: truth is the biggest local bands in New England don't

17:19 Speaker 3: draw twenty five people every show.

17:23 Speaker 1: Sure.

17:25 Speaker 3: Or consistently. It's very difficult and if they did, we

17:29 Speaker 3: would be the first band that sent them an email

17:32 Speaker 3: to try to book with them, right of course, because

17:36 Speaker 3: it's a win. Well to me, is to lose if

17:39 Speaker 3: you're the only person in the band and Zachie b

17:42 Speaker 3: has to get all the audience members, or Melissa has

17:45 Speaker 3: to write all the songs, or the headliner and the

17:50 Speaker 3: co headliner are responsible for the majority of the draw,

17:56 Speaker 3: we have a and I think that creates an inside

17:59 Speaker 3: sir from an outside circle and it leaves independent artists subservient,

18:05 Speaker 3: submissive and relying on national acts and talent buyer talking power. Yeah,

18:12 Speaker 3: and we don't want nobody to be able to repurpose,

18:15 Speaker 3: misuse or set our value for us. Right, So it's

18:18 Speaker 3: a good way of putting it our pathway and there

18:23 Speaker 3: is no wrong way for anybody. This is just for us.

18:25 Speaker 3: We're not telling people what to do. Continue doing whatever

18:28 Speaker 3: works for you, yep. But we believe that no band

18:34 Speaker 3: and that's what Swormyfest is about, that no band should

18:37 Speaker 3: have to get one hundred people in the door, right,

18:39 Speaker 3: Not because we're moral or there's good guys and bad

18:42 Speaker 3: guys or evil or good. It is because we just

18:46 Speaker 3: don't have to. Logistically, local bands don't have to get

18:49 Speaker 3: one hundred people in. How about just ten?

18:52 Speaker 1: Right?

18:53 Speaker 3: But if you've got five bands and this you know,

18:55 Speaker 3: five people in the band, twenty five people there, and

18:58 Speaker 3: every band member brings two or three people, then it's

19:01 Speaker 3: not you're not leaving it to one band member or

19:05 Speaker 3: or a headliner, and then then you don't have all

19:10 Speaker 3: of the lobbying in playing with the paperwork when it

19:15 Speaker 3: comes to local when it comes to national acts coming

19:18 Speaker 3: into town, right right, it takes.

19:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely. This is a

19:28 Speaker 1: little bit of a side street. But I know Jenny

19:30 Speaker 1: had told you that, uh so this show, we usually

19:34 Speaker 1: stream it on Facebook and we're not doing that for

19:37 Speaker 1: right now, and she said, you kind of chuckled that

19:41 Speaker 1: about that and the reason we're not and we're still

19:44 Speaker 1: going to YouTube and actually LinkedIn, believe it or not.

19:48 Speaker 1: But Uh. Facebook has banned me from live streaming until December,

19:51 Speaker 1: and I have and I have no idea why, because

19:53 Speaker 1: they don't like to tell you. You know, these social

19:55 Speaker 1: media platforms, they don't like to tell you what you

19:57 Speaker 1: did wrong. They just like to tell you did something wrong.

19:59 Speaker 1: I can do everything else on Facebook, I just can't

20:01 Speaker 1: live stream the show.

20:02 Speaker 3: That's the I mean, that's the way it is for

20:05 Speaker 3: That's the way it is now for all of the apps. Yeah,

20:08 Speaker 3: you know they have that for sure. I mean that's

20:12 Speaker 3: kind of a hack, isn't it. You know, you create

20:14 Speaker 3: a special program and there's no human beings that you

20:17 Speaker 3: can talk to. Rights, does it Twitch?

20:20 Speaker 1: Does it?

20:20 Speaker 3: All the apps on your phone do at Yeah, there's

20:22 Speaker 3: no customer service.

20:23 Speaker 1: Yeah.

20:25 Speaker 3: Yeah.

20:26 Speaker 1: It's funny too because people, you know, we talk a

20:28 Speaker 1: lot about.

20:29 Speaker 3: AI, but AI is all supposed to make the world

20:32 Speaker 3: easier for us, right in theory. We're supposed to save

20:35 Speaker 3: money and be happier. But it's been with us.

20:37 Speaker 1: It's also been with us for longer than people realize,

20:40 Speaker 1: because if you're talking to a chat bot, I mean

20:41 Speaker 1: you're literally talking to a chat bot, you know, And

20:45 Speaker 1: I know that I know that the person who told

20:48 Speaker 1: me via Facebook support that I'm banned from live streaming

20:53 Speaker 1: until December. Who couldn't tell me the reason why? I

20:56 Speaker 1: know that that wasn't a real person, right, I know

20:57 Speaker 1: that was a chat I was talking to AI, and

21:00 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know if they even fully

21:02 Speaker 1: understood what I was describing as the problem.

21:05 Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? But most people, most people,

21:08 Speaker 3: if you sit most people down and you remove them

21:11 Speaker 3: from a group of other people from the construct, and

21:13 Speaker 3: you sit them down and you ask them what the

21:15 Speaker 3: purpose of artificial intelligence is, they're not gonna be able

21:18 Speaker 3: to tell you.

21:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, isn't it supposed to be intelligent?

21:25 Speaker 1: Yes?

21:26 Speaker 3: Well what what made the intelligent thing a human being?

21:32 Speaker 3: So so if you're a gamer, you know, I gotta

21:36 Speaker 3: tell like me and my gamer friends, like AI is

21:39 Speaker 3: not new to us, like if like the idea of

21:41 Speaker 3: AI or just all of these gadgets and gizmos. If

21:45 Speaker 3: you're a gamer, if you've been playing Xbox your whole life,

21:48 Speaker 3: it's not really a new concept for us, right.

21:50 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Are you

21:54 Speaker 1: concerned about and curious any any of you? Are you

21:58 Speaker 1: concerned about AI and its effect? On on music.

22:02 Speaker 3: Did you see the news Did you see the new

22:04 Speaker 3: Bathwater video where where the hornets were flying out of Lexi's.

22:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so those weren't actual hornets. I was concerned

22:18 Speaker 1: when I watched it.

22:19 Speaker 3: I was like, poor, Unfortunately our lead singer Melissa sets

22:26 Speaker 3: herself on fire and her body skeleton burn up into flames.

22:32 Speaker 1: But that but that didn't actually happen, right, That was

22:34 Speaker 1: a because I was also concerned about that. I was like,

22:37 Speaker 1: poor Melissa, that looks very painful.

22:43 Speaker 3: Back then, we used to have to really throw bugs

22:45 Speaker 3: at them.

22:45 Speaker 5: And is that why you're leaving the bid? It sounds

22:53 Speaker 5: very remember we signed that paper, sounds very dangerous.

22:59 Speaker 3: Whatever happens in stays and step yes, yes, uh.

23:04 Speaker 1: Yeah we should Uh you want to play another what

23:07 Speaker 1: should we? Let's play something? We can play a Sapsus track,

23:10 Speaker 1: unless you want to play something from one another bands?

23:14 Speaker 3: Or what do you play a Silent Season song? You

23:16 Speaker 3: want to play a silent which one?

23:18 Speaker 4: Hopeless boy my favorite song?

23:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, we played this one in the first hour, but

23:22 Speaker 1: I'm happy to play it again. That's okay, we can

23:24 Speaker 1: play it again. Different. It was a different hour. It

23:27 Speaker 1: was a whole different hour. No, this is my favorite

23:28 Speaker 1: Silent Season song. This is a great choice. All right,

23:31 Speaker 1: let's give this s spend Silent Season. Of course, one

23:33 Speaker 1: of the bands playing tonight at Swarmyfest, and we're going

23:35 Speaker 1: to talk more about that on the other side of this.

23:38 Speaker 1: But this is a great track. This is called hopeless

23:42 Speaker 1: and I don't hear anything, and I think I know why.

23:46 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that again. I'm gonna have to edit

23:48 Speaker 1: that on the podcast. This is dull, hopeless Silent Season.

24:18 Speaker 6: I feel the pressure falling, telling my s I fe

24:24 Speaker 6: feel safe behind every single day, all those same like

24:34 Speaker 6: my Sonchas and chanty. No is gonna make me fall time,

24:50 Speaker 6: no chancey suit chel sing and well knows the goven Listen, Tess.

25:11 Speaker 3: I'm buried and I'm no praise.

25:15 Speaker 5: How it felt so sad and.

25:21 Speaker 3: I say that I can't break it.

25:23 Speaker 2: I charge change, serve me that starts so row.

25:32 Speaker 6: No's gonna save you, no chasy suits say test and

25:54 Speaker 6: will know no s thank go saves a serious book.

26:03 Speaker 3: I'm not a sush with my inshie rits. I don't

26:09 Speaker 3: know which way is still for.

26:14 Speaker 2: My ears from my shot make you work doctor God.

26:22 Speaker 2: Still feel alone gol watching at back.

26:27 Speaker 6: Very signs not my.

26:33 Speaker 2: Here chassy, so.

26:41 Speaker 6: I'll say.

26:44 Speaker 3: Sas not well know.

26:49 Speaker 6: Thanks? Wis no checks.

27:19 Speaker 4: There it is.

27:19 Speaker 1: The track is Hopeless. The band is a Silent Season

27:23 Speaker 1: and they will be playing tonight at Swarmyfest. If you

27:26 Speaker 1: are listening live on Saturday, it is November fifteen, twenty

27:30 Speaker 1: twenty five. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed And of course

27:32 Speaker 1: we're talking today. It's all about Swarmyfest tonight at Jewel

27:36 Speaker 1: right across the street really on Canal Street here in

27:39 Speaker 1: Manchester and really looking forward to tonight. And of course

27:44 Speaker 1: we have William and Zachie b and Melissa and Lexi

27:48 Speaker 1: here from the band and uh and you brought you

27:51 Speaker 1: brought some other folks with you and who now, Who's

27:54 Speaker 1: who's going on last tonight? Is it? Is it Sepsis?

27:57 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, we like to do that, yeah, because of

28:02 Speaker 3: the clock, you know. Yeah, so if we're running a

28:04 Speaker 3: little late, we could either add or take away music.

28:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives you a little little bit of flexibility there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

28:12 Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Who's opening the show? You know?

28:15 Speaker 3: At this I think I think Temptris is opening the show.

28:19 Speaker 1: Tempriss is opening. Yeah, yeah, we have them on. We

28:21 Speaker 1: played I don't know if you've listened to that song

28:23 Speaker 1: Carly that they have, but Jenny and I are like

28:25 Speaker 1: addicted to that song.

28:27 Speaker 3: We make we make sure this is this probably sounds crazy,

28:32 Speaker 3: but we listen to the bands that we book. Yeah.

28:36 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I know it seems like that would be

28:38 Speaker 3: like a generic thing, but a lot of times people

28:41 Speaker 3: don't do that, you know.

28:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true.

28:44 Speaker 3: You know, if if a band says to a promoter, hey,

28:47 Speaker 3: I pretty pretty pinky swear promise, right then I'm gonna

28:50 Speaker 3: that I'm really good and I'm gonna bring fifty people,

28:53 Speaker 3: sometimes people believe that, right, right, that is true that

28:57 Speaker 3: I've never met a band that says my band is

28:59 Speaker 3: terrible and we're bringing.

29:00 Speaker 1: No one, right Yeah, yeah, of course of course. So

29:05 Speaker 1: now what is now after? Obviously, you know, today is

29:08 Speaker 1: a very big deal. But after you get through today,

29:11 Speaker 1: what's what's kind of the what else does the band

29:14 Speaker 1: have in the works other than you know, you got

29:16 Speaker 1: to find a new bass player or replace them with

29:18 Speaker 1: AI or whatever.

29:19 Speaker 3: But I can talk about the a I think forever.

29:21 Speaker 3: I think, I well, the Swarmy Fest really starts on

29:26 Speaker 3: the Friday, which is last night, so we all, yeah,

29:28 Speaker 3: we all hang out and we do like staff and

29:31 Speaker 3: the VIPs and people that helped getting the show together,

29:33 Speaker 3: we all hang out together, and folks that may have

29:37 Speaker 3: came used years before and new people get to all

29:39 Speaker 3: meet each other. Yeah, and it's nice because that way

29:42 Speaker 3: you can go to the venue some of the people

29:44 Speaker 3: that are traveling or familiar with people there, right, instead

29:48 Speaker 3: of telling everybody, hey, just just meet at the venue

29:50 Speaker 3: and we're the only people they know.

29:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just.

29:53 Speaker 3: Nice to have a few other people to that you're familiar.

29:55 Speaker 1: With, of course.

29:56 Speaker 3: Yeah.

29:57 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:59 Speaker 3: But the real cherry on top is the Swarmy Fest after.

30:05 Speaker 4: Party, yeah, with our best Pajama contest.

30:09 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, this and we do a theme, so

30:11 Speaker 3: there's a you know, just like with every show, Stepsis

30:15 Speaker 3: does a wardrobe theme for anybody that's keeping score, and

30:19 Speaker 3: we also do an after party theme. And this year

30:23 Speaker 3: is the after party Pajama Jamie jam okay, and if

30:29 Speaker 3: you bring if you don't have to, but there's a

30:32 Speaker 3: limited amount of people. Yes, you know, we don't want

30:34 Speaker 3: to get arrested.

30:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

30:38 Speaker 3: Folks can if they if they buy tickets early, they

30:41 Speaker 3: can send us screenshots and it automatically gets them into

30:44 Speaker 3: the after party. And then if they bring pajamas, they

30:48 Speaker 3: can win a gift card.

30:51 Speaker 1: Oh that's a cool concept.

30:52 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, whoever's got the coolest pajamas on we have

30:56 Speaker 3: or cosplay and we have you know, female judges that

30:59 Speaker 3: are going to judge. Everybody'll be fun.

31:01 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, cool, So that's tonight.

31:04 Speaker 3: So if you're the only person out there and you

31:07 Speaker 3: brought your pajamas, you won.

31:09 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. So you can win by forfeit basically.

31:12 Speaker 3: A lot of people, yeah, a lot of people like man,

31:14 Speaker 3: I don't want to wear any pajamas. But that's good

31:16 Speaker 3: because that that just narrows down the competition. So when

31:21 Speaker 3: no matter what, when no matter what, and I guess

31:24 Speaker 3: if nobody wears their pajamas, we'll spend a gift card.

31:29 Speaker 1: And then so what happens after all this, So after

31:31 Speaker 1: you get past Swarmy Fest? So like do you know,

31:33 Speaker 1: like are you are you recording new music?

31:35 Speaker 3: Oh that's what you meant. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, yes

31:40 Speaker 3: we would. We would record more music, but it's expensive

31:44 Speaker 3: to record our music. Yeah, it really is. And because

31:49 Speaker 3: we really want the best quality we could get for us.

31:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Where do you record normally?

31:56 Speaker 3: I mean, so there's two processes. We record track out

32:00 Speaker 3: a lot of it at our house.

32:01 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:02 Speaker 3: And then the second half is working with Glenn Robinson. Okay,

32:06 Speaker 3: we either meet with him video or he mixed and

32:08 Speaker 3: masters on his own.

32:09 Speaker 1: Okay.

32:09 Speaker 3: Is he in the area or is he he's some Canada?

32:12 Speaker 3: Oh he's Oh he is, Okay, but he's got studios

32:15 Speaker 3: in New York, Vermont.

32:16 Speaker 1: Okay, Because I was gonna say, I know the name.

32:18 Speaker 3: Glenn Robinson is is world renowned? You know?

32:21 Speaker 1: Yeah?

32:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Gore Jason Newstead. Yeah.

32:26 Speaker 1: Is that what makes it so expensive? Because you talked about.

32:29 Speaker 3: Well, no, but we are in it. We are in

32:31 Speaker 3: an industry of showing people that we know important people

32:36 Speaker 3: and that we've worked with important people.

32:38 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

32:39 Speaker 3: That's the whole purpose of Swarmy Fest is for all

32:42 Speaker 3: of us to create a long lasting resume.

32:45 Speaker 1: M h m hm. How do you when you're when

32:49 Speaker 1: you're putting together Swarmy Fest in terms of the bands

32:51 Speaker 1: that you have booked, and you know, you talk about

32:53 Speaker 1: how you don't want to have the same bands every

32:54 Speaker 1: year obviously because I gets stale. But but what what

32:56 Speaker 1: is kind of the criteria that you look for with

32:59 Speaker 1: the band. It's because it's a really good mix.

33:01 Speaker 3: It's disappointing and it's depressing because I have to do it,

33:06 Speaker 3: and because you have to tell people, you have to,

33:08 Speaker 3: you have to, you have to tell people no. That's

33:10 Speaker 3: something I want to do. I don't want to make

33:12 Speaker 3: people unhappy. I don't want to tell people or or

33:15 Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to tell them no and

33:17 Speaker 3: then they feel that I don't like their band or

33:21 Speaker 3: that I don't like their because I like everything man,

33:24 Speaker 3: but like like I loved, I love death metal. But

33:28 Speaker 3: over the we used to book with a lot of

33:30 Speaker 3: death metal bands in our shows, and and like we

33:34 Speaker 3: had a lot of people say, you know, can we

33:36 Speaker 3: just do one or two? Like a lot of our fans,

33:38 Speaker 3: they want to more of a mix. So we've been

33:41 Speaker 3: trying to do more of a blend. Yeah, you know,

33:43 Speaker 3: or you'll get people to say, you know, we used

33:46 Speaker 3: to book a lot of rappers and stuff, and people

33:48 Speaker 3: wanted more of a blend. So just with with with

33:52 Speaker 3: Because we book around Sepsis, we try to now book

33:56 Speaker 3: the bands that really like us and fit in with us.

34:02 Speaker 3: We used to book bands that didn't even like us. Really, yeah,

34:05 Speaker 3: why do you got to like our music? All you

34:06 Speaker 3: gotta do is be professional and get people in the door.

34:08 Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. You don't got to like me, right,

34:10 Speaker 1: that's true.

34:11 Speaker 3: All you got to do, all you got to do

34:14 Speaker 3: is what you agreed to do. Right, You don't. You

34:16 Speaker 3: don't have to do what you're not committed to do.

34:19 Speaker 3: And you don't have to do what you agreed to do.

34:22 Speaker 3: You don't have to do which you didn't agree to.

34:25 Speaker 1: Do, right, right, So if they didn't agree to like, right,

34:29 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't.

34:29 Speaker 3: We don't or don't us. We don't force people to

34:32 Speaker 3: like us, and we don't. We don't make music and

34:34 Speaker 3: some bands do do that. I'm not being sarcastic, of course.

34:37 Speaker 3: Some artists make music for people to like it.

34:41 Speaker 1: Yeah.

34:42 Speaker 3: We just make music. Yeah, and if you like it,

34:44 Speaker 3: you like it.

34:45 Speaker 1: Yeah.

34:45 Speaker 3: If you don't, then you don't. We don't care. That's

34:48 Speaker 3: not it's not a goal of ours to create music

34:51 Speaker 3: that Spotify likes, right, because then we have to go, Well,

34:54 Speaker 3: let's find out what Spotify likes. What's the method of

34:57 Speaker 3: Spotify likes to two minutes and eighty seve seconds Spotify

35:01 Speaker 3: like that when you don't you swears Spotif so, then

35:03 Speaker 3: who's right in the art?

35:04 Speaker 1: Now?

35:05 Speaker 3: Our fans. So if if we let our fans hold

35:08 Speaker 3: us hostage, if we if we let the apps and

35:10 Speaker 3: the gadgets hold us hostage, me and Melissa can't write right, yeah, yeah,

35:14 Speaker 3: then we can't be authentic. Yeah, so that's week. There's

35:19 Speaker 3: already a lot of bands that are writing for the industry. Oh, sure,

35:22 Speaker 3: there are a lot of Always, there are plenty of

35:24 Speaker 3: bands that write for their fans. Yeah, there are plenty

35:27 Speaker 3: of bands that write to be monetized. Yea. We write

35:31 Speaker 3: to be honest, We write to be authentic. Yeah, we

35:35 Speaker 3: write to just be ourselves. We just write to to

35:37 Speaker 3: do it.

35:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. Are the two of you? Your the principal songwriters?

35:41 Speaker 1: You and Melissa, the two of you write everything.

35:43 Speaker 3: These days, it's it's whoever's doing it, Okay, Okay, these

35:47 Speaker 3: days it's like if we're in the creative process. You know,

35:52 Speaker 3: we were in the we were in the studio last

35:55 Speaker 3: year and and and Zach sat sat down for a

35:57 Speaker 3: few minutes and we just didn't have a baseline, you know. Yeah,

36:01 Speaker 3: and it's just sitting here listening to the music. I think,

36:05 Speaker 3: trusting our ears and playing with each other. We've all

36:08 Speaker 3: been working with each other for so long. Yeah, there's

36:10 Speaker 3: a little bit of our personality of the music. So

36:13 Speaker 3: we we've all gotten accustomed to what each other like. Yeah,

36:17 Speaker 3: so sometimes you know, LEXI will write a drum pattern

36:21 Speaker 3: that she knows I'll be impressed with, or you know,

36:23 Speaker 3: or I'll throw I'll throw a riff at Melissa and

36:26 Speaker 3: I'll know because you know, she'll be sitting there like, Okay, yeah,

36:29 Speaker 3: that's that's stock. I'm not ready yet. It's got to

36:33 Speaker 3: be bigger than that. And when it gets big, you know,

36:36 Speaker 3: and then Melissa doesn't doesn't say much. But but but

36:40 Speaker 3: she's got you know, she got the communication when she

36:44 Speaker 3: likes something, you know, that big old smile come up.

36:47 Speaker 3: And really, I want to write music that my band

36:51 Speaker 3: members want to play, you know, not.

36:54 Speaker 4: Just quiet here. I'm quiet in reality.

36:58 Speaker 3: So like I I go around and we have like

37:00 Speaker 3: a peer reviewing process, and some of our most passionate

37:05 Speaker 3: friends and fans and people that have been working with

37:07 Speaker 3: us are in our staff chats and stuff. So like

37:09 Speaker 3: we'll come up with riffs or creative ideas, and we'll

37:12 Speaker 3: just ask people do you like it, and like if

37:15 Speaker 3: they like it or if they have extra feedback. We

37:20 Speaker 3: usually go as a team together what we all feel

37:24 Speaker 3: is best for the music, right.

37:26 Speaker 1: Right, excellent? So what so tonight are you playing? Uh,

37:31 Speaker 1: let's see, so are you playing the new song Bathwater?

37:34 Speaker 1: Are you playing that tonight?

37:34 Speaker 3: Or we're playing Bathwater?

37:36 Speaker 1: Excellent? Excellent? What about force you to lay down? You

37:39 Speaker 1: playing that one?

37:41 Speaker 3: Yes?

37:42 Speaker 1: Okay, good because I we played that in the first

37:44 Speaker 1: hour today of the show, and I said, I hope

37:46 Speaker 1: they play that tonight.

37:47 Speaker 2: Yeah.

37:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, so tonight's set list.

37:51 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're answering these questions because I don't know

37:53 Speaker 1: if you remember this, but last year I asked you

37:57 Speaker 1: and you you didn't want to reveal anything on the

37:59 Speaker 1: air about what was get mad at me?

38:03 Speaker 4: People get mad if we give everything away different.

38:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go, hey, tune into Matt Connorton and then

38:09 Speaker 3: we'll tell them the set list. Yeah, that has happened. Yeah,

38:17 Speaker 3: And people don't get like raging man. Of course, they're

38:21 Speaker 3: like busting with us, you know, yeah, yeah, okay, but you.

38:24 Speaker 1: Are playing those two Yeah, so you've committed you've committed

38:26 Speaker 1: to that, and I'll give you I'll give you a cheat.

38:29 Speaker 3: Okay, we have a new band member joining the band,

38:33 Speaker 3: so naturally we're gonna play a lot of songs that

38:36 Speaker 3: incorporate the new band member. Whether it be, whether it

38:39 Speaker 3: be keyboards are screaming, you're gonna see a lot of

38:42 Speaker 3: the new band member. Yeah, all right, all right, that

38:45 Speaker 3: is because that is the new edition. Okay, so that

38:50 Speaker 3: people haven't heard people haven't heard us with keyboards in

38:52 Speaker 3: a while. We've had DJ's keyboards, all kinds of different

38:55 Speaker 3: versions of this band.

38:56 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, the band has gone through a lot

38:58 Speaker 1: of iterations.

38:59 Speaker 3: I've shown somebody a picture of Stepsis ten years ago

39:03 Speaker 3: with Melissa before the braids, and they were like, yeah,

39:06 Speaker 3: they didn't even know who they were looking.

39:07 Speaker 4: At such a baby face.

39:09 Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't know. Yeah, they thought were showing them

39:11 Speaker 3: another band.

39:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be a geared more toward newer

39:14 Speaker 1: material then, right.

39:16 Speaker 3: I hope.

39:16 Speaker 1: So if it, if it's.

39:18 Speaker 3: I always want to because we because you know, we're

39:22 Speaker 3: responsible for still pushing our very first song. Yeah, Like

39:26 Speaker 3: artists make that mistake of believing that everybody heard their

39:29 Speaker 3: first favorite.

39:30 Speaker 4: Song and then they stopped pushing it, and they stopped

39:32 Speaker 4: pushing it.

39:33 Speaker 3: That's why we don't have a huge library or catalog

39:36 Speaker 3: because we don't want to be one of those artists

39:37 Speaker 3: with like twenty albums of music that nobody listens to.

39:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point.

39:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, really good music that nobody listens to.

39:45 Speaker 1: Right, because you might have right because if you so.

39:47 Speaker 3: Much music gets missed with even with national artists, to

39:50 Speaker 3: the big artist. Sure, even traditionally they only push a

39:53 Speaker 3: couple of singles. Right, even ten years ago, thirty years ago,

39:56 Speaker 3: even when the albums had seventeen tracks on it, they

39:59 Speaker 3: only picked one or two songs. And that's what the

40:03 Speaker 3: Yeah that that hasn't changed. Well, yeah, everybody pushed the singles. No,

40:08 Speaker 3: they push singles back then too.

40:10 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well yeah, like when I work with clients,

40:13 Speaker 1: when I work with radio clients doing college radio promotion,

40:16 Speaker 1: you know, we pick a we pick a single, and

40:18 Speaker 1: we we send that out and you know, if if

40:20 Speaker 1: if a station isn't biting on that single, you know,

40:23 Speaker 1: maybe you'll try to, well, you know, here's the whole album,

40:25 Speaker 1: maybe there's something here, you like, try to get them

40:27 Speaker 1: to play something.

40:28 Speaker 3: But but it's push was that song?

40:30 Speaker 1: Yeah?

40:31 Speaker 3: Push was the push?

40:32 Speaker 1: Was that?

40:32 Speaker 3: So when our album came out and our record label like,

40:37 Speaker 3: you know, we wanted we want a black light to

40:39 Speaker 3: be to be fun, you know. Oh yeah, but in

40:42 Speaker 3: the middle of black Light it says let's go f

40:45 Speaker 3: it r.

40:45 Speaker 1: Right.

40:46 Speaker 3: We didn't know that getting into this.

40:48 Speaker 1: Oh.

40:49 Speaker 3: As a result, you haven't seen you haven't seen a

40:51 Speaker 3: Sepsist song since with a bad word in it.

40:53 Speaker 4: Yeah's everything on our first well there is one.

40:59 Speaker 3: Uh fair to say it's on our first album. Oh okay, yeah,

41:03 Speaker 3: Well never like anything anything that was written after that,

41:06 Speaker 3: we will never yeah yeah, I'll never do it ever again.

41:09 Speaker 3: We never swear Yeah.

41:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you even realize this.

41:14 Speaker 1: I played black Light Invasion I made I made a

41:17 Speaker 1: radio edit of it. Really, I played it years ago.

41:21 Speaker 1: It was before we ever even met, because I do

41:23 Speaker 1: that other show, Local Outbreak, Yes, and I played it

41:26 Speaker 1: on that show just because I just found you guys

41:29 Speaker 1: online and I was like, oh, I like this song,

41:32 Speaker 1: and I just I made a radio edit of it.

41:33 Speaker 1: So when it gets to that part instead of you

41:34 Speaker 1: know what, it says yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, thank you,

41:38 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, not to send that to us. Yeah, I don't.

41:42 Speaker 1: I don't think I still have it, but that that

41:43 Speaker 1: would have been geez, that would have been at least well,

41:45 Speaker 1: when when did that song come out?

41:47 Speaker 3: It's over ten years, right, so I think I think

41:51 Speaker 3: I think the first time we ever gave that to you,

41:53 Speaker 3: it was like a demo version, I believe.

41:55 Speaker 1: Well, no, when I when I played it originally, I

41:57 Speaker 1: just found like I said, we hadn't even met. I

41:59 Speaker 1: found it on line. I found you guys online on

42:01 Speaker 1: band camp, I think is right.

42:02 Speaker 3: So that song, the song that the version that everybody

42:05 Speaker 3: hears now yeah, wasn't really was not recorded until twenty nineteen.

42:12 Speaker 1: Oh so the one I played was what was it

42:14 Speaker 1: a dem Yes? That was online?

42:16 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, strange Stepsis fact. We we we didn't.

42:20 Speaker 3: We've we've been a band for fourteen years.

42:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we didn't.

42:23 Speaker 3: We didn't release music until five years ago.

42:25 Speaker 4: Oh it's because we've gone through so many different lineups.

42:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the music changes, you know. Oh yeah, oh wow, Okay,

42:35 Speaker 3: that's true a lot of time. A couple a couple

42:40 Speaker 3: of Stepsis facts. Yeah, most most people that play in

42:43 Speaker 3: Stepsis don't play over don't play over eighteen to thirty months, okay,

42:48 Speaker 3: and most members that play in Stepsis play under thirty shows. Okay,

42:53 Speaker 3: that's just it's just what it is. Yeah, yeah, that's

42:56 Speaker 3: just what it is, all right, So don't feel bad,

42:58 Speaker 3: Zach there, hold on, hold on, hold on, never there

43:02 Speaker 3: are there are no band members except for Robert Pan

43:07 Speaker 3: and Lexi, who have lasted in the band more than

43:11 Speaker 3: two and a half three years. Wow, no kidding, No,

43:14 Speaker 3: that's just that's just what it is. Yeah, yeah, Lexi's

43:17 Speaker 3: been in the band for seven years and Robert's been

43:19 Speaker 3: in the band on and off for ten years.

43:22 Speaker 1: Well but she's only been in the band band today, right,

43:25 Speaker 1: So that that resets the clock, doesn't that reset the

43:29 Speaker 1: clock in a new apartment? Yeah, so you're starting all over, yes,

43:34 Speaker 1: complete newbie. So now you can't leave at least for

43:39 Speaker 1: another two and a half years.

43:42 Speaker 5: I could break.

43:43 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Well we are oh wow, we

43:47 Speaker 1: are rapidly approaching the top of the hour. It all

43:49 Speaker 1: goes so fast. So one last push for tonight, So

43:51 Speaker 1: swarmy fast tonight. Doors open at seven or does the

43:55 Speaker 1: show start at seven?

43:57 Speaker 3: Doors at six? Music six thirty oh.

44:00 Speaker 1: Music starts at six thirty.

44:02 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, gotcha's changed since the flyer.

44:04 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, no, that's what the original flyer did

44:07 Speaker 3: say that though, And that's good.

44:10 Speaker 1: To tell our live listeners that though. So yeah, so so. Tonight,

44:13 Speaker 1: Loud Entertainment presents US Swarmy Fest Sepsis Silent Season under

44:17 Speaker 1: the Horizon Pulsifier, the Cherry Fog Temptress, also featuring Lilith

44:21 Speaker 1: Kat and the Blood Witch, and of course Matt Connorton Unleashed.

44:24 Speaker 1: We are very proud and honored to again be participating

44:27 Speaker 1: along with Legion of Solace, Speed Demon Promotions, Violets, Rain

44:32 Speaker 1: BPS Records, Denny Lynz Creations.

44:35 Speaker 3: Did I miss anybody that was really good?

44:38 Speaker 1: Thank you? I try. Well, We're Jenny and I are

44:42 Speaker 1: really excited about tonight. So we're we're very very happy

44:46 Speaker 1: and always wonderful to have you on and wonderful to

44:49 Speaker 1: have all of you here. Thank you for coming in,

44:51 Speaker 1: thanks for having me absolutely absolutely so yeah. So if

44:55 Speaker 1: you're listening live on Saturday, make sure you come to

44:57 Speaker 1: Jewel tonight for Swarmy Fest. And yeah we are. I

45:01 Speaker 1: don't even have time to play another song, we are

45:03 Speaker 1: out of time, but that's okay. We had a lot

45:05 Speaker 1: to talk about. That's a good problem. So if you

45:07 Speaker 1: miss any part of today's show, it'll be up in

45:09 Speaker 1: just a little bit at wmnhradio dot orgon on my

45:11 Speaker 1: website Matt connorton dot com. And that's it for us

45:14 Speaker 1: for now. We'll see it's warm me Fest by everybody. Bye.