The Noise Who Runs | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: I love it. That is called Commercial Road and that

0:02 Speaker 1: is The Noise Who Runs. And we're going to be

0:05 Speaker 1: talking in just a moment with Ian Pickering from The

0:08 Speaker 1: Noise Who Runs. Really looking forward to this. I love

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0:31 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera for our live listeners. Today is

0:34 Speaker 1: Saturday May second, twenty twenty six and let me get

0:38 Speaker 1: this mic up here. And Ian Pickering has joined us

0:41 Speaker 1: via Microsoft Team. Hello Ian Hell, how are you good? Good?

0:46 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm very very excited to talk

0:49 Speaker 1: with you. I love I love The Noise Who Runs

0:53 Speaker 1: and I was a fan of the Sneaker Pimps too.

0:56 Speaker 1: Do you does that project continue? Is this some? Is

1:00 Speaker 1: this an addition to that or has I don't know

1:03 Speaker 1: if snecret Pimps is still active or.

1:07 Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if there was

1:11 Speaker 2: there was the Square in the Circle album in twenty

1:14 Speaker 2: twenty one. Yeah, Sneaker Pimps. Yeah, I don't know. That's

1:19 Speaker 2: always that's always the decision of Liam and Christ with

1:22 Speaker 2: the Sneakers. Sure they're doing something, you know, then then

1:28 Speaker 2: I'll happily get involved in the project again anytime, you know,

1:32 Speaker 2: right right, But I don't know if that was a

1:35 Speaker 2: line drawn under it. And then they went back to

1:37 Speaker 2: doing their own separate things again. It was a nice

1:41 Speaker 2: moment I thought it was. It was nice to work

1:45 Speaker 2: with everyone again and do that. But the ball is

1:49 Speaker 2: not in my court, if you like, I'm not the

1:51 Speaker 2: I'm not the brains behind the operation.

1:54 Speaker 1: Understood, understood? Yeah, well I love I love this. I

1:58 Speaker 1: love the noise who runs. I listened to the whole thing.

2:01 Speaker 1: Of course. The album read gen X, this just came out?

2:07 Speaker 1: Did this just come out on the eighth or it's

2:09 Speaker 1: coming out on the on the eighth rather, I'm sorry, Yeah, absolutely,

2:13 Speaker 1: it's coming coming out on the I'm experiencing some time distortion,

2:16 Speaker 1: I think.

2:19 Speaker 2: Like that.

2:20 Speaker 1: But what what? What's the response been over there? Where

2:23 Speaker 1: you are to this so far, because it's not it's

2:26 Speaker 1: not a light listen in the sense that I mean,

2:28 Speaker 1: it's light in terms of the production of some of

2:31 Speaker 1: the songs, and you know, it's electronic, it's sort of

2:34 Speaker 1: some of its sort of poppy and whatnot. But but

2:37 Speaker 1: the lyrics are not light. I mean there's some're you're tackling.

2:40 Speaker 1: You're tackling heavy stuff with the lyrics.

2:44 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I came to music from the

2:47 Speaker 2: angle of the lyrics. I think for me, that's the

2:51 Speaker 2: most important thing. That's the thing I like first and foremost.

2:55 Speaker 2: I'm a writer. Yeah, it happens to be songs. I

2:59 Speaker 2: don't think that makes any difference. It could be poetry, novels,

3:03 Speaker 2: it could be journalism. You know, I'm a writer and

3:09 Speaker 2: music is the way I do it because that's always

3:12 Speaker 2: what That's just always how it's been. And even when

3:15 Speaker 2: I try and do something different in a different form

3:18 Speaker 2: of writing, music comes back within three months or a

3:21 Speaker 2: year or two years and it wants something from me.

3:25 Speaker 2: So I'm stuck with it, you know, right, Really it's

3:29 Speaker 2: a pleasure. But you know, sometimes it's like it's always music,

3:33 Speaker 2: isn't it. I just happen to do it in three

3:36 Speaker 2: four minute pop songs.

3:38 Speaker 1: And you know, and not only that, but so tell

3:41 Speaker 1: me if I have this right. So you're a songwriter.

3:44 Speaker 1: Obviously you're a vocalist, but you also play multiple instruments.

3:47 Speaker 2: Correct, I play multiple instruments good enough to make a

3:53 Speaker 2: record because I can retake and read take and I

4:00 Speaker 2: can I can do the guitar parts and cut them up,

4:04 Speaker 2: you know.

4:05 Speaker 1: Sure.

4:05 Speaker 2: No, I have to learn to play live, you know.

4:10 Speaker 2: I have to learn the songs like a session musician. Again.

4:14 Speaker 2: I write very fast, I record very fast, and then

4:20 Speaker 2: I start to mess around with everything else about it.

4:24 Speaker 2: You know. So if I I want to take the

4:27 Speaker 2: project live now, I really do, but I'm going to

4:30 Speaker 2: have to learn everything again, just like everyone else who

4:33 Speaker 2: comes into the project, you know.

4:35 Speaker 1: Right right? That makes sense.

4:38 Speaker 2: Play a little bit of everything.

4:40 Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense because it's it's sophisticated. It's not

4:43 Speaker 1: you know, you're not in a three chord punk band here,

4:46 Speaker 1: you know, where you just go out and Joe just

4:48 Speaker 1: go out and wing it. And it's not that there's

4:51 Speaker 1: anything wrong with that.

4:52 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, No, I had training as

4:56 Speaker 2: a child on piano and Chris Corner. Really he taught

5:00 Speaker 2: me the guitar more than anybody else really.

5:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, when we when well, when we were still teenagers. Yeah,

5:08 Speaker 2: you know, but I didn't really develop any brilliant virtuoso

5:14 Speaker 2: skill on any instrument. No, okay, I'd stuck with the

5:17 Speaker 2: lyrics all the time. That was always my thing.

5:19 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Now on the album is this all you are?

5:23 Speaker 1: You playing everything?

5:26 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the first time that's happened actually, so yeah, yes,

5:31 Speaker 2: I don't know why that makes me so happy. I think,

5:35 Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's an achievement in itself. It

5:38 Speaker 2: is just to have done everything.

5:43 Speaker 1: So what what what led to that decision to take

5:45 Speaker 1: that on, because that's I mean, obviously I would think

5:48 Speaker 1: it would be a double edged sword. On the one hand,

5:51 Speaker 1: it's probably very liberating because you're in full control, but

5:54 Speaker 1: on the other hand, that's a lot of pressure you

5:55 Speaker 1: literally have to do everything.

5:58 Speaker 2: Well, it's it is quite arbitrary, weirdly, the decision to

6:03 Speaker 2: do it is. I had stumbled across an artist, a

6:09 Speaker 2: Newcastle artists called The Blonde maybe three years ago, and

6:15 Speaker 2: I think she's amazing, you know, I think she's absolutely

6:18 Speaker 2: brilliant music she makes is stunning, and the last album

6:23 Speaker 2: she had she said, Oh, I'm really proud because I've

6:27 Speaker 2: done everything myself and that's the first time I've done it,

6:30 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, I could do that, and that's

6:32 Speaker 2: the only reason I did it. Okay, yes, that was Yeah.

6:36 Speaker 2: I got influenced by some by you know, a young

6:40 Speaker 2: artist who I discovered as I just found out by chance. Yeah.

6:45 Speaker 1: So, as you're making the album, was there ever any

6:49 Speaker 1: point where you thought, I don't know, I don't know

6:51 Speaker 1: if doing this all myself is really going to work out.

6:54 Speaker 1: Maybe I do need to bring somebody in for this

6:55 Speaker 1: part of that part. Did that ever? Did that ever happen?

6:58 Speaker 1: Or were you able to just kind of do that

7:00 Speaker 1: and just enjoy it and you know, and make something

7:04 Speaker 1: great just sticking to your plan?

7:08 Speaker 2: Well? I did. I sent the songs to a friend, Philip,

7:15 Speaker 2: who plays guitar. He's been playing guitar for the project

7:19 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, and I said, okay, do you want

7:23 Speaker 2: to do the guitars then? And he kind of listened

7:26 Speaker 2: to it, and after about a month he sent it back.

7:28 Speaker 2: He said, there's not really anything to do because it

7:30 Speaker 2: all sounds fine, which makes me sound like Donald Trump.

7:35 Speaker 2: Suddenly I did it very well, brilliantly.

7:38 Speaker 1: Actually it was me. Many people are saying it, but

7:46 Speaker 1: yet and I just thought, okay, and I was a

7:48 Speaker 1: bit That's what.

7:49 Speaker 2: It took a long time for me to think about

7:53 Speaker 2: whether that was a good thing or not, because I

7:55 Speaker 2: thought maybe I should ask someone else to do it

7:57 Speaker 2: in that case, But no, I just in the end,

8:00 Speaker 2: I just left it. I thought. I played around with

8:03 Speaker 2: it a little bit, tried to do it a little

8:05 Speaker 2: bit better, but it's almost you just want some extra

8:11 Speaker 2: security for some reason. Sure, it's like having a security blanket.

8:15 Speaker 2: I'll send it. I'll send it to Colin and he

8:19 Speaker 2: can master it. And it turns out not good enough,

8:22 Speaker 2: I'll do it again, right.

8:23 Speaker 1: Right, No, that makes sense. How long did it take

8:25 Speaker 1: to make the album? I would imagine this took a

8:27 Speaker 1: while or maybe not.

8:32 Speaker 2: Well, I think all the songs pretty much. All the

8:36 Speaker 2: songs were written by the end of twenty twenty three.

8:42 Speaker 2: But I have periods of big activity, so the album

8:47 Speaker 2: was there in all its form. It basically comes down

8:50 Speaker 2: to me recording the vocals, and I wasn't getting on

8:52 Speaker 2: with it because basically I wrote another album, and I

9:00 Speaker 2: keep writing rather than doing other things because writing is

9:04 Speaker 2: my big pleasure. Okay, okay, I'll go a backlog of material.

9:09 Speaker 2: You know, really, there's like four albums waiting. I keep

9:13 Speaker 2: writing new stuff all the time. I'm always playing catch.

9:17 Speaker 1: Up, right right, I mean it's a good problem to

9:20 Speaker 1: have in one sense. Right, It's better to have too

9:21 Speaker 1: much material than not enough. Better better to have too

9:24 Speaker 1: much than have writer's block.

9:26 Speaker 2: But well, well yeah whenever, if I, if I ever

9:30 Speaker 2: have writer's block, it's not really going to be a

9:32 Speaker 2: problem so much to the literally, I'm going to be

9:38 Speaker 2: doing it till the day I die.

9:42 Speaker 1: So the vocal tracks came last, obviously, after everything else.

9:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I went back to the Northeast, Okay, back

9:51 Speaker 2: to the Northeast in it, back in England to do

9:53 Speaker 2: it for two weeks, went to see my mom and

9:55 Speaker 2: my brother. You still live up there, so yeah, So

9:59 Speaker 2: it was I say, it was nice, and I kind

10:01 Speaker 2: of wanted I kind of wanted to feel I wanted

10:04 Speaker 2: to visit my hometown where there's been some riots and

10:07 Speaker 2: stuff the year before, Okay, so I just wanted to

10:11 Speaker 2: see that and get a sense of the mood, right,

10:14 Speaker 2: and that kind of helped. It's helped informed a bit

10:16 Speaker 2: of the vocals, okay, you know, giving it a bit

10:20 Speaker 2: of anger in there somewhere right right.

10:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of that. I mean you can

10:24 Speaker 1: kind of hear that edge throughout the album. And I

10:27 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about you know, we played Commercial

10:30 Speaker 1: Road the new single, and I wanted to ask you

10:32 Speaker 1: about that specifically too. What does that song represent to

10:34 Speaker 1: you lyrically?

10:38 Speaker 2: Lyrically, it's I mean, it really started off. I mean, firstly,

10:45 Speaker 2: it's a very old song and the title is very old.

10:48 Speaker 1: Okay, I wrote that.

10:49 Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety six in Birmingham. Oh, but I never

10:54 Speaker 2: had any lyrics apart from having seen your girlfriend baby

10:58 Speaker 2: on Commercial Road. That's all I ever had. And I

11:02 Speaker 2: just felt like it was I played it for no reason,

11:06 Speaker 2: you know, just one day on the guitar and I thought, oh,

11:09 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. I like the melody. I used to

11:12 Speaker 2: write better melodies, and so I just started thinking about

11:17 Speaker 2: everything that's been going on. And I think it was

11:20 Speaker 2: probably about the time that you know, they overturned Row

11:24 Speaker 2: versus Wage, you know, that was back in the news

11:28 Speaker 2: for some reason, and that had set me thinking, you

11:33 Speaker 2: know about how people like Kirk Cobain, he wouldn't be

11:36 Speaker 2: having this, would he'd be standing up against that instantly.

11:40 Speaker 2: And nobody's doing that much anymore, you know. And I've

11:43 Speaker 2: done that all the time, and now it seems like

11:45 Speaker 2: people are catching up. But it's basically just about the

11:50 Speaker 2: complete exploitation of women in all countries under all guys. Is.

11:55 Speaker 2: Equality is not complicated. You just do it. That's my

12:00 Speaker 2: main angle, you know, And then it's it's got a

12:03 Speaker 2: lot of other stuff thrown in. It's a snapshot of

12:07 Speaker 2: it's a snapshot of capitalist society falling.

12:10 Speaker 1: Apart, right right? Fair to say that that's kind of

12:16 Speaker 1: a theme throughout the album.

12:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think things are reaching. We're definitely

12:23 Speaker 2: in an end game situation. Ah, the whole ball game

12:29 Speaker 2: has actually changed. And I guess Generation X so the

12:34 Speaker 2: last people to straddle the analog and the digital.

12:39 Speaker 1: That's true. I say that all the time, Yeah, because

12:41 Speaker 1: I'm Gen XC. Yeah, you know, our generation is the

12:44 Speaker 1: last generation to grow up without the Internet.

12:47 Speaker 2: And so is it that it's just hard to understand

12:51 Speaker 2: the generations who would never have gone and known anything

12:56 Speaker 2: other than social media. I don't know whether it's us.

13:00 Speaker 2: What do you think, is it us not able to

13:02 Speaker 2: understand that this is just the evolution of how it is?

13:06 Speaker 2: Or should we rightly be very afraid that this is

13:09 Speaker 2: control and manipulation on a massive global level.

13:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I tend to look a billionaires. Oh yeah,

13:17 Speaker 1: oh of course it is. It is easier than ever

13:20 Speaker 1: for that mass manipulation to happen, absolutely, and and in

13:25 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, any technology that you know,

13:28 Speaker 1: it's not that the technology itself is bad, but it

13:31 Speaker 1: can be used for nefarious purposes obviously, and there's always

13:35 Speaker 1: bad actors who will do exactly that.

13:39 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and that is that is, isn't it?

13:42 Speaker 2: You just it's not just fundamentally you cannot get the

13:46 Speaker 2: balance is everything. You know, if we don't like it,

13:52 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it's not part of the beauty of

13:54 Speaker 2: it's you're good.

13:55 Speaker 1: And evil, right right?

13:57 Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess it's like that, you know, it's

14:02 Speaker 2: is it a bit early for philosophy and Manchester?

14:07 Speaker 1: Have you have you written things like this before I

14:12 Speaker 1: get well, let me put it this way. Have you

14:13 Speaker 1: done a project like this in terms of the lyrical

14:17 Speaker 1: content and concept prior to the noise who runs prior

14:21 Speaker 1: to this projector or is it is this kind of

14:24 Speaker 1: the furthest you've gone in that direction.

14:27 Speaker 2: It's the it's the it's the hardest it's ever It's

14:31 Speaker 2: the most overtly kind of socially where that it's ever been. Okay,

14:39 Speaker 2: it's more, it's more direct, and this album is more

14:42 Speaker 2: direct again, you know, yeah, I think, but it was

14:47 Speaker 2: it always existed in the sneak of Pimps. It existed that,

14:50 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of it was that Splinter was

14:53 Speaker 2: about the troubles in Ireland. You know, my mum's background

14:57 Speaker 2: is Irish. You know, Spin Spins Sugar. That was originally

15:04 Speaker 2: it was supposed to be a sonnet and it was

15:06 Speaker 2: an anti capitalist sonnet. And everyone thinks it's a massive,

15:10 Speaker 2: like sleezy sex kind of song, which is which is yeah,

15:16 Speaker 2: that's because but no, I think there's always been a

15:19 Speaker 2: love kind of politics there. But you can take everything

15:24 Speaker 2: two ways with my lyrics. I think Sneakers particularly is

15:30 Speaker 2: that you can look at it very personal in terms

15:33 Speaker 2: of a relationship, or you can look at it as

15:36 Speaker 2: a sort of a social thing in terms of a

15:39 Speaker 2: section of society. And I think I'm Becoming X with sneakers,

15:45 Speaker 2: it was very much. It was I think us more

15:49 Speaker 2: than anyone else in trip hop. The lyrics nailed the

15:53 Speaker 2: kind of the under barely culture at the time. You know,

15:58 Speaker 2: it was sleezy because that was what life was like, right,

16:01 Speaker 2: you know, I was on the dole in Portsmouth at

16:03 Speaker 2: that point. Right in those lyrics, you know, have to

16:06 Speaker 2: finish in a journalism college and not being able to

16:09 Speaker 2: get a job.

16:10 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, it was like that.

16:13 Speaker 2: But everything was you know, you're young, everything was you know,

16:17 Speaker 2: try everything at least twice, three times, four times. Yeah,

16:22 Speaker 2: it was very It was just like that. But you

16:26 Speaker 2: could see where politics was and you could see where

16:29 Speaker 2: it was going to go.

16:31 Speaker 1: M h.

16:33 Speaker 2: I think Becoming X quite it's quite a preemptive strike

16:37 Speaker 2: on what happened to the world. Okay, people people said

16:40 Speaker 2: it was cynical, I said it was, But no, I

16:44 Speaker 2: don't think it was cynical. I think we were.

16:46 Speaker 1: Right right right, No, that makes sense. That makes sense

16:51 Speaker 1: a couple of the other and when we in a

16:54 Speaker 1: little bit, when our conversation concludes, I am going to

16:56 Speaker 1: play the other two singles on the show today, Bang

16:59 Speaker 1: Bang and I'm particularly fond of the bodies are under

17:01 Speaker 1: the Bus again and the yeah, the anti war theme

17:06 Speaker 1: of that. But I mean that was that song? When

17:09 Speaker 1: was that song written? Because in some ways it seems

17:14 Speaker 1: so especially relevant right now, and yet you really could

17:19 Speaker 1: have I mean, you could really write an anti war

17:22 Speaker 1: song anytime, because there's always war. It's sort of absent,

17:27 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, there's always war.

17:30 Speaker 2: No, No, you're quite right. Yeah, no, I wrote that.

17:34 Speaker 2: I think that was twenty that was twenty twenty three four. Okay,

17:45 Speaker 2: certainly the music was done and I had the idea

17:49 Speaker 2: that bodies are under the Bus again. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah,

17:54 Speaker 2: But it's just basically how it is. I think maybe

17:57 Speaker 2: it was you know that there is a love. There's

18:01 Speaker 2: a lot of trouble in the world, and I don't

18:06 Speaker 2: really know what it is. It's just it just seems

18:10 Speaker 2: like there's always an exploitation. Nothing is ever genuine, right, no, right,

18:15 Speaker 2: And it just seems that there's billions of us. So

18:20 Speaker 2: why isn't why don't things run the way we want?

18:22 Speaker 2: Why are we still sitting here like the peasants revolts

18:26 Speaker 2: under Richard the Second and we get promised something and

18:29 Speaker 2: they steal it back.

18:31 Speaker 1: You know, it is remarkable when you think about it

18:34 Speaker 1: that way, how we don't learn much.

18:40 Speaker 2: And war.

18:41 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so obvious, you know to those

18:43 Speaker 1: of us who are conscious and thinking about it. It's

18:45 Speaker 1: it's a business really, but but we just keep letting

18:49 Speaker 1: it happen because there's I mean, I know here in America.

18:52 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people here love war. You know,

18:55 Speaker 1: they they see it as patriotic and they believe what

18:58 Speaker 1: they're told and they don't question anything. And I mean

19:01 Speaker 1: obviously not everyone, but there's there's a large swath of

19:04 Speaker 1: the American population that is like raw rah, yeah, let's go,

19:07 Speaker 1: let's go kill some bad guys.

19:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's true. All right, that's true all

19:12 Speaker 2: around the world. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I think it's Yes,

19:18 Speaker 2: it's it's a business. But I just think in every way,

19:23 Speaker 2: like you know, yesterday was what it was, International Workers' Day. Yeah, no,

19:29 Speaker 2: I understand there's a lot of activity with the unions

19:32 Speaker 2: in the USA. There is you know, uh, which which

19:36 Speaker 2: which is which? You know, which is how it's meant

19:38 Speaker 2: to be. That's what America is all about.

19:41 Speaker 1: I think it should be.

19:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's the point is just on every level,

19:49 Speaker 2: on every level, the majority gets stiffed and he just

19:55 Speaker 2: doesn't make any.

19:55 Speaker 1: Sense, right, but we accept it.

19:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how we keep doing it.

20:01 Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's it's. It's pretty frustrating. So so

20:06 Speaker 1: that raises a question, Uh, like, what what's the response been.

20:10 Speaker 1: I mean, from from what I've read, it sounds like

20:12 Speaker 1: the response uh to to these uh to the singles

20:14 Speaker 1: and again, the album comes out May eighth, but it

20:16 Speaker 1: sounds like the response of the singles has been pretty positive. Right.

20:19 Speaker 1: But but I'm wondering, I mean, when when when people

20:22 Speaker 1: tell you they they like it, I mean, are they

20:25 Speaker 1: do they just like it sonically? Are they connecting with

20:28 Speaker 1: the messaging of it? I mean, I imagine it's a mix.

20:32 Speaker 1: But I'm curious what kind of feedback you're getting.

20:35 Speaker 2: Uh most of the feed most of the feedback is

20:39 Speaker 2: about is kind of about the lyrics. And I'm always

20:42 Speaker 2: very I'm always very I'm always very touched when people

20:46 Speaker 2: like like the songs musically. So you know, a lot

20:50 Speaker 2: of people, a lot of people are really really enjoying

20:54 Speaker 2: the bodies are under the bus again, which I'm quite

20:56 Speaker 2: surprised because it seemed quite lightweight and out of play.

21:00 Speaker 2: You know, it seems so very electronic and pop. It's

21:03 Speaker 2: the only one where there's no guitars, I think. But

21:07 Speaker 2: I've had a lot of good a lot of good

21:10 Speaker 2: sort of feedback about little bits and bobs of the

21:13 Speaker 2: music in all in different songs. Oh, I like this

21:16 Speaker 2: per synth there, I like this big keyboard. So that's

21:20 Speaker 2: always It's always really nice when people like the musical parts,

21:26 Speaker 2: or they see something or they hear something and it's, oh, yeah,

21:29 Speaker 2: I did do that. It's funny. But all these things

21:32 Speaker 2: just happen naturally, don't they true. But yeah, I mean,

21:39 Speaker 2: I think I'm just people have been really positive. I

21:42 Speaker 2: think it. I think it's probably I think the production

21:47 Speaker 2: and everything about it is very tight on this record,

21:50 Speaker 2: so I think it's more accessible because it's just everything

21:54 Speaker 2: has been done very well, possibly for the first time.

21:58 Speaker 2: In the Hole, the Noisy Run.

22:01 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, yeah, I think yeah.

22:03 Speaker 2: Everything else has been a bit shambolic and a bit shabby.

22:06 Speaker 1: On my path.

22:07 Speaker 2: You know, I've been in a rush. I've gone balls.

22:11 Speaker 2: I'm just going to use the drums like this. No no,

22:14 Speaker 2: I make atrocious decisions.

22:19 Speaker 1: Well, it's urd, I mean it's you know, it's certainly

22:20 Speaker 1: not supposed to be perfect, right, No.

22:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think this time, this time it was

22:27 Speaker 2: everything seemed to be like a like a well oiled machine,

22:30 Speaker 2: maybe because I just did it and pleased myself.

22:36 Speaker 1: Any plans for a follow up? I mean, obviously you're

22:38 Speaker 1: writing a lot of music. Do you have any plans

22:41 Speaker 1: for a follow up to this? Specifically, will you continue

22:44 Speaker 1: to release music under the name The Noise Who Runs?

22:47 Speaker 1: What's kind of your your long term plan or do

22:49 Speaker 1: you know?

22:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, The Noise He Runs is basically is

22:56 Speaker 2: basically might kind of like a non de plume, So

23:00 Speaker 2: I go under this name regardless. That is now the

23:02 Speaker 2: project I do is Ian pickering my thing when it's

23:06 Speaker 2: not sneakers or it's not wrying for someone else. There

23:11 Speaker 2: is a follow up album, yes, oh, it's pretty much

23:14 Speaker 2: done once again. I've got to do the vocals provisionally.

23:18 Speaker 2: That is called Signals in the Static.

23:20 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, that's an interesting title, and.

23:24 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like a follow up to this.

23:28 Speaker 2: It carried on, the writing carried on and spilled over.

23:31 Speaker 2: But it's very bizarre at the moment. You know, I've

23:37 Speaker 2: done things with guitars that you shouldn't do.

23:40 Speaker 1: Okay, that's intriguing. That's intriguing.

23:44 Speaker 2: And basically I've also just finished writing some songs with

23:50 Speaker 2: a French guy, a French guitarist who just happens to

23:56 Speaker 2: write songs and kind of make up words over the top,

24:00 Speaker 2: and so he comes with guitar and a melody and

24:03 Speaker 2: we just wrote some songs. So I'm thinking about what

24:06 Speaker 2: to do with them, okay, And basically I really want

24:10 Speaker 2: to play live, So that is my immediate plan is

24:15 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to put that together so

24:18 Speaker 2: that maybe next year I can do some shows.

24:22 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, Do you have any idea? I mean,

24:25 Speaker 1: would you just try to put together a full band

24:27 Speaker 1: to play these songs live? Or would you use loopers?

24:30 Speaker 1: Or I mean, do you have you thought that far into.

24:33 Speaker 2: It or I've thought about both ways. At the minute,

24:37 Speaker 2: I thought about whether I could do it just by myself,

24:40 Speaker 2: whether I could do it as two people, three people,

24:43 Speaker 2: and then you get into the point where it's like

24:46 Speaker 2: I'm going to have that many people, I might as

24:48 Speaker 2: well have a bend and an orchestra section. But so

24:53 Speaker 2: I do like it very stripped down. I like the

24:56 Speaker 2: kind of two three people using a bit of technology, you.

24:59 Speaker 1: Know, one hundred persons.

25:02 Speaker 2: I think it kind of suits the nature of the project.

25:04 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

25:05 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, so I didn't ask you the

25:07 Speaker 1: obvious question yet. What does the name mean? The noise

25:11 Speaker 1: who runs? What? What is the meaning of the name

25:13 Speaker 1: for you?

25:14 Speaker 2: Uh ah? Well, in French there's a it's a French

25:21 Speaker 2: phrase that means gossip. Okay, so I think it's a

25:28 Speaker 2: breaky corp breeze noise. And basically there was a restaurant

25:34 Speaker 2: called this that we went to once when I first

25:37 Speaker 2: arrived in France. My girlfriend took me to this restaurant

25:41 Speaker 2: and I said, what's the name? And she said, it

25:43 Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything in English. It's the noise who runs?

25:46 Speaker 2: And I went, oh, I quite like that, because basically

25:52 Speaker 2: I took it to mean more like word of mouth

25:55 Speaker 2: spreading right, right, which is I think, what that's That's

26:00 Speaker 2: the one thing we have. You know, I'm not particularly

26:05 Speaker 2: interested in selling records. I'm interested in the world getting better, right,

26:12 Speaker 2: So if I could, if I can do a show,

26:14 Speaker 2: and if I can put shows on for free, I

26:17 Speaker 2: would yeah, yeah, more than you know, that's what I want.

26:22 Speaker 2: I'm not seleaning, Dion. I'm not going to come back

26:24 Speaker 2: from the brink and then charge three grand for a ticket.

26:27 Speaker 2: What's that about?

26:28 Speaker 1: Right?

26:31 Speaker 2: You should be giving it for free. You should be grateful, you.

26:34 Speaker 1: Know, if only? Yeah, if only.

26:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, because ticket prices that's a.

26:40 Speaker 1: Joke now, Oh, it's it's way, way way out of control. Absolutely, absolutely, yes,

26:48 Speaker 1: So Ian, where's the best place for people to go

26:50 Speaker 1: online to keep up with everything that you're doing with

26:52 Speaker 1: the noise who runs or anything else that you're doing

26:55 Speaker 1: that you want people to know about.

26:59 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess the website is the best place.

27:05 Speaker 2: And band Camp, band camp, paull Is band Camp, the website, Okay,

27:11 Speaker 2: she's just ww dot the noisyeruns dot com.

27:15 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm a big fan of band camp, by the way,

27:18 Speaker 1: and I am looking at that. You've got h you've

27:21 Speaker 1: got the uh, you've got the album on there. Band

27:24 Speaker 1: Camp is the reason I I like to talk about

27:27 Speaker 1: band camp is just because not everyone realizes that with

27:30 Speaker 1: band camp, if you get the music from there, you

27:32 Speaker 1: get a higher quality file than you do if you're

27:34 Speaker 1: just say streaming it on YouTube or even or even Spotify.

27:39 Speaker 1: You know, band camp, you get a really high quality file,

27:41 Speaker 1: which is important. I mean it, or it should be important.

27:45 Speaker 2: See, I didn't know that. I mean, I'm sitting there

27:47 Speaker 2: uploading all the web files and everything, but I never

27:50 Speaker 2: even thought about that. Yeah, okay, yeah, I should really

27:54 Speaker 2: direct people to band camp all the time.

27:57 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah. I'm a big, big fan of

28:00 Speaker 1: a big fan of band camps. So well, Ian, this

28:04 Speaker 1: has been wonderful. It's great to talk with you. We'll

28:06 Speaker 1: we'll conclude our conversation in a moment, and then I'm

28:08 Speaker 1: actually gonna play. I'm gonna play the Bodies Are under

28:10 Speaker 1: the Bus again because we talked about it. But I'm

28:12 Speaker 1: also gonna sneak in Bang Bang because I think those

28:14 Speaker 1: are both both just great singles.

28:17 Speaker 2: That's very kind.

28:18 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and I want to remind people, of course,

28:20 Speaker 1: the album comes out May eighth via t nw R Records.

28:24 Speaker 1: What is that tnw R Records? Is that a Is

28:26 Speaker 1: that an independent label? There? Maybe that's your label. I

28:29 Speaker 1: don't know.

28:31 Speaker 2: Basically my label. You have to you have to give

28:33 Speaker 2: it a name when you register the songs.

28:36 Speaker 1: Oh, I just realized, I'm a little I'm a little

28:39 Speaker 1: slow sometimes. I just realized tnw R the Noise Who Runs.

28:43 Speaker 1: It didn't even occur.

28:44 Speaker 2: It didn't even Yeah, I just had to give it

28:47 Speaker 2: a name. I think before that at some point there's

28:51 Speaker 2: Rogue Noise Recordings as well, which, oh that's a cool name.

28:55 Speaker 2: You just have to give it an arbitrary name.

28:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that Rogue Noise Recordings. But yeah

29:00 Speaker 1: then w r Yeah, I'm staring at those letters, and

29:02 Speaker 1: it finally dawned on me. Oh the Noise Who Runs took.

29:08 Speaker 2: Me a minute.

29:10 Speaker 1: It's still morning here. I haven't had enough caffeine, I guess.

29:12 Speaker 3: But but I got I got there eventually. But yeah,

29:17 Speaker 3: we're gonna play both of those, so we'll we'll let

29:19 Speaker 3: you go for now. But when the you know, when

29:22 Speaker 3: you've got the next single ready to go, If you're

29:24 Speaker 3: gonna keep releasing singles from the album after the album

29:26 Speaker 3: is out, please you know, we'd love to be kind

29:29 Speaker 3: of your your conduit into American radio here.

29:32 Speaker 1: Love what you're doing. It's a great project, and uh yeah,

29:36 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear and when the next album

29:38 Speaker 1: comes out too, I can't wait to hear that. So

29:40 Speaker 1: so all good stuff.

29:41 Speaker 2: Thank you so much man, really genuine it's been a

29:45 Speaker 2: big pleasure. Thank you. I hope everyone has a good day.

29:47 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, thank you so much for joining us. Ian. Okay,

29:50 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Take care, all right, thanks bye,

29:54 Speaker 1: bye bye. All right. That is the great Ian Pickering

29:57 Speaker 1: of the Noise who Runs. He is the Noise who Runs.

30:00 Speaker 1: It is his project after all. And we're gonna play

30:03 Speaker 1: let's see. Yeah, we're gonna we have time, we can

30:05 Speaker 1: seek both of these in so we're gonna play this.

30:07 Speaker 1: This is an important song and that's why you know,

30:09 Speaker 1: we spend some time on it. The Bodies are under

30:11 Speaker 1: the Bus again, great anti war song. And we're also

30:15 Speaker 1: gonna play Bang Bang after that. Another great single from

30:18 Speaker 1: the album, which does come out May eighth, so it

30:20 Speaker 1: will be the full album will be available everywhere very shortly.

30:24 Speaker 1: But here it is. Check this out. The Bodies are

30:26 Speaker 1: under the Bus again by the Noise who Runs.