Tyler LaPlant | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: And joining us. It's his first time on the show.

0:03 Speaker 1: We have filmmaker Tyler laplant is here with us. Hello Tyler, Hello, Hello,

0:07 Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me. Absolutely, So you are

0:11 Speaker 1: from Nashua, correct, Yes, nashe me, I'm sure. And of

0:14 Speaker 1: course you've got a short film called Joey's Big Reveal.

0:18 Speaker 2: That I do, yes, and tell us about it. Yes,

0:21 Speaker 2: so I shot so a little I guess a little

0:23 Speaker 2: bit about me. I've been working professionally in the film

0:26 Speaker 2: and television industry for coming up on five years, which

0:30 Speaker 2: is pretty great. Right now, I work as a grip

0:33 Speaker 2: uh so, I work in the lighting department, and I'm

0:36 Speaker 2: I've been doing that for a while. And I've always

0:39 Speaker 2: wanted to be a writer director. And you know, this

0:43 Speaker 2: isn't the first project that I've I've written and directed,

0:46 Speaker 2: but this is this is like the first real one.

0:49 Speaker 1: Okay.

0:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is Joey's Big Reveal, And you know,

0:54 Speaker 2: I made it with a really incredible group of you

0:56 Speaker 2: know New England cast and crew, you know to Curtis

1:00 Speaker 2: Comedy and you know, kind of in the veins of

1:04 Speaker 2: I think you should leave. So I'm really you know,

1:07 Speaker 2: we're so close to being done so Ika, I'm really

1:09 Speaker 2: excited to get it out there.

1:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, by the way, so you mentioned a grip.

1:13 Speaker 1: What is a grip? Because I remember, you know, even

1:16 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I would see in the

1:17 Speaker 1: closing credits of things like key grip and things like that, Yeah,

1:20 Speaker 1: and never knowing what that is or yeah, I mean.

1:22 Speaker 2: So okay, So within you know, the way kind of

1:26 Speaker 2: movies work, you'll have you know, your camera department, your

1:28 Speaker 2: sound apartment, light department, you know whatnot. Within the lighting department,

1:32 Speaker 2: it's kind of split up between two groups, grips and electricians.

1:37 Speaker 2: The best way for me to describe it is like

1:39 Speaker 2: electricians will set the lights up and then grips we

1:43 Speaker 2: diffuse the light. We add shadow. We also provide camera support.

1:47 Speaker 2: So if you're ever watching, you know, a movie or

1:50 Speaker 2: show and there's like, you know that shot where they're

1:53 Speaker 2: all you know, camera's following them, that's a dolly shot

1:56 Speaker 2: that typically, you know, a dolly grip would be operating

1:59 Speaker 2: the piece of equipment that's actually making the camera move.

2:02 Speaker 2: So we do lighting, we do camera support.

2:05 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so what what got you started? I when

2:09 Speaker 1: when I listened to your interview on UH on Ray's show.

2:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray Dudley, great guy.

2:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I've ever met Ray, but

2:18 Speaker 1: but I grew to like him very quickly listening to that.

2:21 Speaker 1: That interview is a great interviewer. Yeah. So, and I

2:23 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it, and you were very good in that.

2:25 Speaker 1: I enjoyed your your conversation with him. So I got

2:28 Speaker 1: to cheat a little bit learn some things about you

2:30 Speaker 1: ahead of time. But but so you were talking about

2:33 Speaker 1: this was very interesting to me. So you had a

2:34 Speaker 1: job where your boss basically said to you one day,

2:40 Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, I don't think you want to

2:42 Speaker 1: be here, so I'm gonna let you go and you

2:44 Speaker 1: can go and make movies. Yeah, tell that, Tell that

2:47 Speaker 1: story for our listeners.

2:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, absolutely.

2:49 Speaker 2: So I was working at a place called New Sky

2:51 Speaker 2: Productions out of Nashville, New Hampshire, and uh, they kind

2:54 Speaker 2: of focused on advertising and like kind of doc you style,

2:59 Speaker 2: advertise for like local businesses in and around New England.

3:03 Speaker 2: And I was working under this guy, Grant Morris, and

3:06 Speaker 2: and I'd worked for him, you know, while I was

3:11 Speaker 2: in high school and then after i'd graduated, and it

3:14 Speaker 2: was the summer I graduated that and this was during COVID.

3:17 Speaker 2: By the way, so like twenty twenty summer I graduated

3:21 Speaker 2: high school. My you know, he came, he brought me

3:24 Speaker 2: into the office and said like, hey man, you want

3:26 Speaker 2: to go make movies. You know, like I could certainly

3:28 Speaker 2: have you here, and but you're going to be wasting

3:31 Speaker 2: your your ambition. It was really tough because like I

3:34 Speaker 2: loved working there and I thought maybe like okay, you know,

3:37 Speaker 2: I'll do the advertisement thing and you know, maybe do

3:39 Speaker 2: something more practical. But that being fired from that really

3:44 Speaker 2: kind of Yeah. It was the you know I love

3:46 Speaker 2: to this day, I still say thanks to him because

3:48 Speaker 2: now I'm out here making movies. I'm going to LA

3:51 Speaker 2: on Monday, so I'm I'm really excited. So I've you know,

3:56 Speaker 2: so it opened a lot of doors.

3:57 Speaker 1: So it was the right thing. Oh yeah, but that's

3:59 Speaker 1: tough love, right, I mean, you know, because it sounds

4:01 Speaker 1: like he didn't it sounds like he didn't call you

4:04 Speaker 1: in and say hey, I'm thinking maybe you should get

4:08 Speaker 1: Like he fired you.

4:09 Speaker 2: He literally straight up and he's like, yeah, you know,

4:12 Speaker 2: I think you learned enough here go out and make movies.

4:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so. How did you feel like

4:18 Speaker 1: in that moment was there. Were you excited? Were you

4:20 Speaker 1: a little bit panicked? Were you like, I don't I

4:23 Speaker 1: don't know.

4:23 Speaker 3: I bawled my eyes out, did.

4:25 Speaker 1: You, because you said you actually loved working there? Oh?

4:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it. I mean it was a great environment.

4:30 Speaker 2: I was doing something cool and interesting, and you know,

4:33 Speaker 2: I was kind of heartbroken and then but but afterwards

4:37 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, this is this is the

4:39 Speaker 2: this is the way to do it. Yeah, and it

4:41 Speaker 2: was probably probably one of the better better times I've

4:43 Speaker 2: been fired in my.

4:44 Speaker 1: Life, right right, So then what was your next move

4:47 Speaker 1: after that? Like, right after that happened, What was the

4:49 Speaker 1: next thing that you did?

4:50 Speaker 2: Actually, this is a great kind of segue for some

4:52 Speaker 2: of the casts for Joey's big reveal, because I worked

4:55 Speaker 2: on this, uh this short film. It's still on YouTube

4:57 Speaker 2: if you really want to find it. It's called Retribution.

5:00 Speaker 2: It's a short film that I shot and two of

5:02 Speaker 2: my other buddies from Nashua, they you know, they wrote

5:05 Speaker 2: it and directed it together, and we brought on this

5:09 Speaker 2: guy named David Torres Junior to play our you know,

5:13 Speaker 2: bad guy and our main you know, like mafia bad guy.

5:18 Speaker 2: And he came on and it was actually his first

5:22 Speaker 2: he had just gotten into acting, and it was his uh,

5:24 Speaker 2: it was his first time like actually speaking like you know,

5:27 Speaker 2: for a role, like any role once forever. I was like,

5:30 Speaker 2: oh wow, that's really great.

5:31 Speaker 3: Uh.

5:32 Speaker 2: David and I kept in contact for you know, past

5:34 Speaker 2: five years, and he's really been working on some great stuff,

5:38 Speaker 2: getting a lot of great experience. And you know, I

5:41 Speaker 2: wrote this project and Joy's Burg Reveal is kind of

5:44 Speaker 2: like a mafioso type movie, So yeah, I needed somebody

5:48 Speaker 2: to play that. And you know, I remember watching a

5:51 Speaker 2: movie he was in called Ethis that came out last year,

5:53 Speaker 2: a baseball movie, and I'm like, man, this guy really

5:55 Speaker 2: is truly fantastic. So I called him up and and

5:58 Speaker 2: we I pretty much just gave him the part right

6:00 Speaker 2: then and there, and you know, it's been history ever since.

6:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So did you like when you when you left,

6:07 Speaker 1: when you left that job, was that like like did

6:10 Speaker 1: you jump right into Oh?

6:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried working on pretty much.

6:14 Speaker 2: The idea is like there's like I looked called the

6:15 Speaker 2: short film Circuit Massachusetts. So there's a lot of short

6:18 Speaker 2: films happening, So you hop on the Facebook group. I

6:22 Speaker 2: hopped on the Facebook groups. Yeah, and I'm like, hey,

6:25 Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to work on people's projects whatever,

6:28 Speaker 2: little no experience, you know, put me in coach and

6:32 Speaker 2: I got reached out by Victor Herman and Jana Cipriano,

6:36 Speaker 2: and I ended up being the assistant director. You put

6:39 Speaker 2: heavy quotations around that because I have at the time,

6:42 Speaker 2: I had no idea what an assistant director did, and

6:45 Speaker 2: I was like a glorified PA. But I worked on

6:47 Speaker 2: their films Woodshedding by Victor and and Trauma Bond by Jana,

6:51 Speaker 2: and that sort of got me in a position to

6:54 Speaker 2: meet a lot of industry professionals around the area. And

6:58 Speaker 2: you know, I started being a productionist and from that

7:00 Speaker 2: for about a year until I moved into the grip department.

7:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got you got busy quickly. It wasn't

7:06 Speaker 1: like you were languishing trying to figure out your next

7:08 Speaker 1: move necessarily, like you you.

7:11 Speaker 3: Jump on what's that I said that would come later on?

7:13 Speaker 1: Oh really okay, But initially like you jumped right in.

7:16 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I'd be working for free. And

7:19 Speaker 2: then you know, eventually I got really lucky and reached

7:22 Speaker 2: out to work on a couple of like really big projects.

7:25 Speaker 2: Like very early on my career, confess Fletch moved with

7:29 Speaker 2: John Ham. It's a Chevy Chase remake. They filmed it

7:32 Speaker 2: out in Massachusetts, and you know, I got a call

7:36 Speaker 2: from a buddy who I worked on on, you know,

7:39 Speaker 2: the previous short films, and they're like, hey, come on,

7:41 Speaker 2: I'm going on vacation, come work on this fifteen million

7:43 Speaker 2: dollar movie.

7:44 Speaker 1: Wow.

7:44 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, I called out of my

7:47 Speaker 2: job at home Depot at the time, and you know, yeah,

7:51 Speaker 2: it was it was great.

7:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. So something interesting too that you mentioned. I remember

7:57 Speaker 1: hearing you say this, Soray too. You know, you talked

7:59 Speaker 1: about the short film circuit. So is it because it

8:04 Speaker 1: never would have even necessarily occurred to me that there

8:06 Speaker 1: was a short film circuit, so to speak. But are

8:09 Speaker 1: there a lot more short films being made than maybe

8:13 Speaker 1: most people even realize.

8:14 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

8:15 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of

8:19 Speaker 2: big projects or sorry, there's a lot of smaller projects.

8:21 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of a lot of people trying

8:23 Speaker 2: to make like you know, Instagram type content like comedy

8:26 Speaker 2: stuff whatever. And then you know, you have a lot

8:28 Speaker 2: of college kids, a lot of film schools around here

8:31 Speaker 2: Keene State, Emerson, so you have a lot of them

8:34 Speaker 2: working on their movies. And then you have a lot

8:37 Speaker 2: of industry professionals who you know, are like, hey, you know,

8:41 Speaker 2: I like making movies. So then you work on your

8:43 Speaker 2: friends films, and there's there's a good amount like if

8:47 Speaker 2: you want to hop in and at least in Massachusetts,

8:49 Speaker 2: there is a healthy amount of projects that you could

8:51 Speaker 2: work at least for free to start until you, you know,

8:54 Speaker 2: kind of figure out what you're worth.

8:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting because, like I said, I don't

8:58 Speaker 1: think most people realize just how much of that is

9:00 Speaker 1: being done. And so what what differentiates a short film? Well,

9:07 Speaker 1: let me ask it this way. Sure, how long can

9:09 Speaker 1: a short film be to still be considered a short

9:11 Speaker 1: film versus a feature film? Like what's kind of the

9:15 Speaker 1: what's kind of the line in terms of I mean,

9:17 Speaker 1: there's probably no like official rule.

9:20 Speaker 3: But no, actually I think I believe it or not.

9:22 Speaker 2: I think I think there is like an official rule

9:24 Speaker 2: of like I think it's anything over sixty minutes is

9:29 Speaker 2: like defined as a feature okay, Whereas I don't know,

9:32 Speaker 2: I mean I've worked on short films that you know,

9:35 Speaker 2: are two minutes long, and I've worked on short films

9:37 Speaker 2: that are forty eight minutes long, Like yeah, I think

9:40 Speaker 2: the idea is like if you're under an hour, it's

9:43 Speaker 2: a short film. Okay, you know it's the sort of

9:46 Speaker 2: I guess like going, you know, going basis.

9:49 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Were there particular short films

9:54 Speaker 1: that inspired you to really want to do that? Oh?

9:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know, working on I worked on a

10:00 Speaker 2: project called wood Shedding, like really early on, really close

10:04 Speaker 2: friend of mine and mentor, my buddy, Victor Herman, wrote

10:07 Speaker 2: and directed and produced that movie. And you know, being

10:12 Speaker 2: being with somebody like I. I think the guy's a

10:15 Speaker 2: fantastic writer, director like his his work really really resonates

10:18 Speaker 2: with me. So, you know, being able to to work

10:20 Speaker 2: under a guy like that, and and you know get

10:23 Speaker 2: to become like not not not just a mentor, but

10:26 Speaker 2: just pals, just buddies, like we get you know, we'll

10:28 Speaker 2: we'll get together and watch movies together, like you know,

10:31 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's nice. So to be able to

10:34 Speaker 2: have that was was huge. So like wood Shedding was

10:37 Speaker 2: was a big one for me. Trauma Bond was another

10:39 Speaker 2: big one for me early on my movie Retribution that

10:44 Speaker 2: I shot like that was like it was just it

10:47 Speaker 2: was just fun and I felt happy with what I

10:49 Speaker 2: am proud of what I was making. You know, I've

10:52 Speaker 2: worked on a lot of really great stuff, uh, in

10:55 Speaker 2: terms of short films by Lando Michael t another incredible

11:00 Speaker 2: writer director out in New England. We worked together in

11:03 Speaker 2: the Whitney Houston movie that came out a few years ago.

11:05 Speaker 1: Wow.

11:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I've been fortunate enough to work on like

11:08 Speaker 2: big stuff, little stuff that's great. But yeah, a lot

11:12 Speaker 2: of great short films around here.

11:14 Speaker 1: Is there is there almost like a in terms of

11:19 Speaker 1: working on a short film? Is is there something exciting

11:22 Speaker 1: about knowing that you're working on something that is going

11:25 Speaker 1: to You're going to get to the end of it quicker?

11:29 Speaker 1: In theory? I mean every project is different than say

11:32 Speaker 1: a feature film, because I would think if you're someone

11:36 Speaker 1: who you know, you want that because there's a certain

11:38 Speaker 1: gratification that comes from that right when you complete, When

11:41 Speaker 1: you complete anything, there's you know, you get that endorphin

11:43 Speaker 1: rush right when you can create anything that matters to you.

11:46 Speaker 1: But with a short film, is there something appealing about Okay,

11:49 Speaker 1: it's a short film, it's not going to take as

11:51 Speaker 1: long to do as a feature film. So I'm going

11:54 Speaker 1: to get to see the the end results of this

11:57 Speaker 1: and reach that that end point quicker and that's exciting

12:01 Speaker 1: or maybe not. I don't know.

12:02 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's you know, it's different.

12:04 Speaker 2: I'm coming more from like a crew I want to

12:06 Speaker 2: answer this more from a crew perspective of not to

12:09 Speaker 2: sound hard and like, because I was just you know,

12:11 Speaker 2: I love short films and working on them, but it

12:13 Speaker 2: is hard. Typically they're unpaid, and they're twelve hour days long,

12:17 Speaker 2: which is average day in you know, on set working

12:21 Speaker 2: on movies, but so it's like a twelve hour long day.

12:23 Speaker 2: You're not being paid. Typically you know, the people who

12:26 Speaker 2: are producing the short film are green and or you know,

12:31 Speaker 2: there are issues, so it's like, you know, maybe food

12:34 Speaker 2: isn't good, or maybe you know, everybody has to move

12:37 Speaker 2: their car eight times because parking is a real pain.

12:40 Speaker 1: Right, you know.

12:42 Speaker 2: And also it's like I I there are definitely short

12:45 Speaker 2: films I've worked on that that are very very good,

12:47 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of short films that I've worked

12:49 Speaker 2: on that either like the script doesn't emotionally resonate with

12:52 Speaker 2: me or whatever, like I'm helping a friend out or

12:54 Speaker 2: you know, like I have nothing going on this Sunday

12:56 Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, come work for two hundred and

12:58 Speaker 2: fifty bucks.

12:58 Speaker 3: I'll be like okay.

12:59 Speaker 2: So there's no Honestly, there's more of an emotional I

13:03 Speaker 2: guess there's more of like an emotional return working on

13:05 Speaker 2: a feature because you have worked so long on it,

13:08 Speaker 2: whereas short films are just like they're for me at

13:11 Speaker 2: least like when I'm working them on them from a

13:13 Speaker 2: crew perspective, they're kind of just like quick jobs like okay,

13:15 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, this will be done and over with,

13:17 Speaker 2: whereas a feature will be like okay, like I'm here

13:20 Speaker 2: for anywhere from like fifteen to like sixty seventy days,

13:24 Speaker 2: like depending on what it is.

13:26 Speaker 3: Yeah.

13:27 Speaker 1: Interesting if you're just joining us. We're talking with Tyler Laplant.

13:31 Speaker 1: He is a filmmaker from Nashua, New Hampshire. So what

13:39 Speaker 1: are are there A lot of differences? I mean, obviously

13:41 Speaker 1: a feature film has a larger budget, But in terms

13:43 Speaker 1: of the actual process of making a film, is there

13:47 Speaker 1: much different from making a short film and making a

13:49 Speaker 1: feature film.

13:50 Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it's obviously a much bigger

13:54 Speaker 2: task making a feature. You know, really everything from logistics

13:59 Speaker 2: to creative but the core, yes, oh yeah, but the core,

14:04 Speaker 2: the core of filmmaking can be found through the short

14:07 Speaker 2: film experience, where you need to write a cohesive script,

14:12 Speaker 2: you need to rewrite that script five, six, seven times.

14:17 Speaker 2: You need to raise funds, you need to work with

14:21 Speaker 2: actors and department heads and crew and dealing.

14:25 Speaker 3: You know.

14:25 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe on features you'll have more producers

14:28 Speaker 2: so that you you know, you don't as a director,

14:30 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about.

14:31 Speaker 3: This stuff so much.

14:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely on shorts, you know, you're you're running

14:35 Speaker 2: around like crazy, so there's a lot of I'm sorry,

14:39 Speaker 2: I might have lost track of the question a little bit.

14:41 Speaker 1: No, no, this is no, this is good. No, you're

14:43 Speaker 1: answering it.

14:45 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's definitely you gotta learn. You gotta be

14:49 Speaker 2: really good. You gotta be really good, and you gotta

14:53 Speaker 2: be really on top of your stuff, whether it's a

14:55 Speaker 2: short film or feature film, because you know, if your

14:58 Speaker 2: short film's a nightmare, like you know, you have people

15:01 Speaker 2: who are giving up their time and money to be

15:04 Speaker 2: a part of this. You don't want to waste their time,

15:06 Speaker 2: and you know, you're on a limited budget. So it's like,

15:09 Speaker 2: I think there are ways that it's like harder on

15:12 Speaker 2: a short film because you have you don't have enough time,

15:15 Speaker 2: like you know, you might have a lot of boundaries,

15:17 Speaker 2: so you know, it's it's kind of a it's kind

15:20 Speaker 2: of a balance. Like you know, I find the writing

15:23 Speaker 2: process to be kind of long and arduous sometimes, so like,

15:26 Speaker 2: you know, I want to make a feature but right

15:30 Speaker 2: now I'm just I'm stuck, not stuck, but like I'm

15:32 Speaker 2: in the writing process, and that's just that's going to

15:34 Speaker 2: take as long as it's going to take, right So

15:36 Speaker 2: as if you have the time and patience for it,

15:38 Speaker 2: then then you can make a short film. And if

15:40 Speaker 2: you have the time patients for that, you can definitely

15:43 Speaker 2: make a feature film.

15:44 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. And then what differentiates a short film from say,

15:50 Speaker 1: because we live in such an interesting time, yeah, in

15:53 Speaker 1: terms of social media and and what you can do,

15:57 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and because you know, these days,

16:00 Speaker 1: anybody can take you know, can take a cell phone

16:03 Speaker 1: with a good camera and record things and shoot things,

16:06 Speaker 1: and and and obviously I'm sure there's a lot of

16:10 Speaker 1: people on social media, on YouTube who consider themselves, you know,

16:15 Speaker 1: some sort of short film. I mean, content creator has

16:18 Speaker 1: become sort of the catch after YE tell me why

16:22 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well.

16:23 Speaker 2: That's the thing, is like, okay, so I don't There

16:26 Speaker 2: definitely are people who are content creator. They watch stuff,

16:30 Speaker 2: they say, they make stuff for you to like watch

16:32 Speaker 2: and write your brain written with ye. But there are

16:35 Speaker 2: a lot of people who are like, you know, like oh,

16:37 Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, this is the content that I

16:39 Speaker 2: make and it's art. So you're an artist, say say

16:41 Speaker 2: you make art?

16:42 Speaker 1: Right?

16:42 Speaker 2: Like this whole idea that it's content, that it's something

16:45 Speaker 2: too not to get all like you know, Cami here,

16:47 Speaker 2: but like something to like buy and and and and

16:51 Speaker 2: consume and and and and spread out is like I

16:54 Speaker 2: think it's like a little ridiculous, and I think it's

16:56 Speaker 2: I get that degrading.

16:58 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.

16:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like yeah, I mean I don't know, like

17:01 Speaker 2: I I don't look at you know the way I

17:04 Speaker 2: look at Joey's Bigger Field.

17:05 Speaker 3: It's a short film. You know, I spent damn I.

17:08 Speaker 2: Spent almost near damn is fine, Oh great, I spent

17:10 Speaker 2: damn near ten ten thousand dollars making this movie. Yeah,

17:14 Speaker 2: you know. Uh so to me, it's not just about money.

17:18 Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I had twenty five crew members,

17:20 Speaker 2: I had you know, ten background actors. You know, I

17:23 Speaker 2: had months and months of planning and prepping. I had

17:26 Speaker 2: rewrites you know. Now I'm going through the editing process.

17:29 Speaker 2: So it's like I'm putting in the work for it

17:32 Speaker 2: to be a short film, something that I would like

17:35 Speaker 2: to be a cinematic experience for my audience.

17:37 Speaker 1: Right.

17:39 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I don't I'm not gonna knock

17:41 Speaker 2: you know, people on on on Instagram or TikTok that

17:44 Speaker 2: are making skits with their friends and they're they're considering

17:47 Speaker 2: that filmmaking, Like, yeah, that that that is filmmaking, Like

17:51 Speaker 2: go out and make a movie with your phone. Like

17:53 Speaker 2: if you if you you need to want to make

17:56 Speaker 2: a movie, you need to it needs to be something

17:58 Speaker 2: that Like, man, the only way I can feel like

17:59 Speaker 2: a person is if I'm making movies.

18:01 Speaker 3: That's how you're going to be successful. I think. So, like,

18:04 Speaker 3: if you're that.

18:04 Speaker 2: Type of person and your only resources is a cell

18:07 Speaker 2: phone and your two pals, then go for it.

18:09 Speaker 1: You know.

18:10 Speaker 2: But the idea is that you want to move past

18:13 Speaker 2: that and you want to get better than that because

18:15 Speaker 2: there's a whole world of filmmaking out there.

18:17 Speaker 1: Right right. You talked about and you mentioned the budget,

18:22 Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand dollars that you've spent on Joey's

18:25 Speaker 1: Big Reveal. Like, what are some because obviously some of

18:31 Speaker 1: the expenses are obvious, but some might might be not

18:33 Speaker 1: so obvious. So for someone like me who's never worked

18:35 Speaker 1: in that realm, where what are what are some of

18:38 Speaker 1: the things that you pay for with so money?

18:40 Speaker 3: The big thing for me was paying my cast and crew. Yeah.

18:44 Speaker 2: That was a lot of short films kind of do

18:46 Speaker 2: the thing where you know, maybe the director of photography

18:50 Speaker 2: or the key grip and the gaffer and the sound

18:51 Speaker 2: guy get paid, but everybody else, you know, kind of

18:54 Speaker 2: falls by the wayside.

18:56 Speaker 3: It was really really.

18:57 Speaker 2: Important for me that each one of my crew members

19:00 Speaker 2: was paid, you know. It was I was working with

19:03 Speaker 2: SAG members Screen Actors Guild for anybody unfamiliar, so I

19:07 Speaker 2: was working with union members. It had to be you know,

19:09 Speaker 2: I had to pay my cast like a certain percentage.

19:13 Speaker 3: I think it's like or not percentage.

19:14 Speaker 2: I think it's like like two eighty five For micro budgets,

19:17 Speaker 2: so it's like, that's automatically, you know, I had I

19:20 Speaker 2: had two SAG after members, Like that's automatically, you know,

19:24 Speaker 2: six hundred dollars like ye, you know, so it's like money,

19:27 Speaker 2: money adds up.

19:28 Speaker 3: So the big thing was labor.

19:30 Speaker 2: Probably the second biggest thing so far has been like

19:33 Speaker 2: post production, just in that again, paying my editor, paying

19:37 Speaker 2: my mixer, paying my color correction. Uh, the voiceover work

19:40 Speaker 2: that has to go into the movie, you know, so

19:44 Speaker 2: you know I've been trying. My My big goal is

19:47 Speaker 2: is everybody, everybody gets paid.

19:50 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of a lot of short films.

19:52 Speaker 2: Then a lot of projects will try to exploit people's

19:54 Speaker 2: labor and they they know that they can get people

19:57 Speaker 2: to work for free, right And you know, my big

19:59 Speaker 2: thing is like, hey, this is how my buddies pay bills.

20:02 Speaker 2: And it's not much, but here's what I have. So

20:05 Speaker 2: most of that money went towards paying people. And then

20:08 Speaker 2: you have food, you have costumes, you have you know, oh,

20:13 Speaker 2: this lighter isn't working, we need to go get another one.

20:17 Speaker 2: And then you have a pa who decides to tip

20:19 Speaker 2: thirty dollars on lunch even though it's your money, you know,

20:22 Speaker 2: like that has that happened.

20:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened on mine.

20:27 Speaker 2: That's okay, But you know, so it adds up, Yeah,

20:32 Speaker 2: it adds up.

20:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, you almost have to be you know, because you

20:37 Speaker 1: talked about how when you're doing a short film, you

20:39 Speaker 1: know you have to be responsible for all these things

20:41 Speaker 1: that you know, like the money for example, Like if

20:43 Speaker 1: you're making a feature and you're the director, well you

20:44 Speaker 1: know you've got producers who are Yeah, you're not worried

20:47 Speaker 1: about the money. Well, the short film, you're worried about everything,

20:49 Speaker 1: and it's almost like you have to be an accountant

20:52 Speaker 1: on top of everything else. Yeah, is what it sounds like.

20:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, I which I'm not a very good accountant. No,

20:58 Speaker 2: I mean I do want to show out the producers

21:00 Speaker 2: I had on here, justin Leslie Smith, Matt my buddy,

21:04 Speaker 2: Matt Hernon and Ted Omo like these you know, these

21:09 Speaker 2: these three guys and gals really took great care of me.

21:13 Speaker 2: And you know there's definitely a lot of decisions producing

21:16 Speaker 2: why so that like, you know, I made myself, but

21:18 Speaker 2: you know I had people to bounce off of and

21:21 Speaker 2: I had people supporting me. So my producers really really

21:24 Speaker 2: killed it.

21:24 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, what's been. Is there something that stood out

21:29 Speaker 1: to you as the biggest surprise in terms of as

21:31 Speaker 1: as you're making a short film, something that you didn't expect,

21:37 Speaker 1: or maybe a challenge that you didn't see coming.

21:39 Speaker 3: Ah geez. Honestly, yeah, I think there.

21:43 Speaker 2: I think because I had to take on a lot

21:45 Speaker 2: of producing roles, there's a lot of stuff about my

21:47 Speaker 2: short film that or like specific aspects that I wish

21:52 Speaker 2: that I could change. Nothing too nothing too drastic. It's

21:56 Speaker 2: more it's more just like a bunch of small things.

21:58 Speaker 2: And I've also threw I kid, you know, I've probably

22:01 Speaker 2: watched this thing over two hundred times now, and you

22:04 Speaker 2: know it's going to be a lot harder for me

22:06 Speaker 2: to uh not nick not nick pick after after so long.

22:13 Speaker 2: But honestly, I mean, I think that the big challenge

22:16 Speaker 2: really honestly is like just mentally being like, okay, I'm

22:20 Speaker 2: doing this it It can be a lot like you know,

22:24 Speaker 2: like sometimes I get anxious about these sort of things,

22:26 Speaker 2: like you know, it's you know, I don't want to

22:28 Speaker 2: make myself look like an idiot in front of like

22:30 Speaker 2: twenty five people who are like my friends, and you know.

22:33 Speaker 3: That's not fun.

22:35 Speaker 2: You know, I've definitely worked on I've definitely worked on

22:37 Speaker 2: projects features and shorts where you know, the director just

22:42 Speaker 2: kind of makes a real fool of himself and you.

22:45 Speaker 3: Know, I did not.

22:46 Speaker 2: I that's that's a huge pressure. So like there is

22:49 Speaker 2: I think it's just like the mental pressure of like

22:51 Speaker 2: having to be a successful leader, at least attempting to be.

22:55 Speaker 2: It can be very daunting. But I'd like to think

22:58 Speaker 2: I did a decent job.

22:59 Speaker 3: You know.

23:00 Speaker 2: True morale was good, So good. As long as everybody

23:02 Speaker 2: else is happy, I think I can be happy.

23:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah, if you're just joining us, we

23:07 Speaker 1: have Tyler le Plant from Nashua. He is a is

23:10 Speaker 1: a filmmaker and we're talking about he's got his short

23:12 Speaker 1: film Joey's Big Reveal. You said, this is the second

23:15 Speaker 1: one you've done, though you did one before this.

23:17 Speaker 2: I've I've done I've directed and written like music videos

23:20 Speaker 2: and like several other projects, oh you have, Oh yeah, yeah,

23:22 Speaker 2: this this is like the first like one where I'm like, hey,

23:27 Speaker 2: this is like kind of professional. Okay, this is like

23:31 Speaker 2: my step into doing something more professional.

23:34 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm curious here about some of the music

23:36 Speaker 1: videos that you've done.

23:38 Speaker 3: I did.

23:39 Speaker 2: Uh, My first like real like like big one or

23:43 Speaker 2: not big one, but one with like a little bit

23:45 Speaker 2: of budget that I did was this song called Contact

23:48 Speaker 2: by an artist named Leonard.

23:49 Speaker 3: Sweet, really great guy.

23:53 Speaker 2: Actually my girlfriend Peyton that that was her supervisor and

23:57 Speaker 2: she you know, connected us and I. I produced and

24:01 Speaker 2: directed like his first music video and that was great

24:06 Speaker 2: because that was my first time really like since like

24:09 Speaker 2: like my doing films in high school, where like I would,

24:14 Speaker 2: I had a crew, I had actors, you know, I

24:16 Speaker 2: was directing people, and you know, that was that was

24:19 Speaker 2: really great experience that music videos. If you look it

24:22 Speaker 2: up contact Leonard sweets all on YouTube. I did a

24:26 Speaker 2: music video for a a Manchester band. Unfortunately they're not there,

24:31 Speaker 2: they're no longer together, but they're called the Graniteers. Yeah, okay,

24:35 Speaker 2: So I did their music video for mind Slide Okay yeah,

24:39 Speaker 2: which like a decent amount of people have seen, which

24:41 Speaker 2: is pretty cool. But then you know I did I

24:45 Speaker 2: did some stuff for Alfredo Beni Yeah, yeah, Afrado. So

24:51 Speaker 2: I've I've done I've done some stuff with Fredo. You know,

24:54 Speaker 2: I've done like some live performance stuff like little you know,

24:57 Speaker 2: small little things like with my own camera Most recently,

25:01 Speaker 2: I worked on a Dropkick Murphy's music video that was

25:03 Speaker 2: really cool. I ten he's real nice guy. Ken, Yeah,

25:08 Speaker 2: he's a cool guy. I've done, you know, I did

25:12 Speaker 2: this music video for this Boston or sorry, I not did.

25:16 Speaker 2: I worked on in the Lightning Apartment Flawed Mangos Surrealists,

25:21 Speaker 2: which is like I think they're at like two million

25:24 Speaker 2: views now or something like it kind of blew up,

25:26 Speaker 2: which was cool.

25:27 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I do like commercials, short films, features,

25:32 Speaker 2: music videos, corporate stuff.

25:35 Speaker 3: I do.

25:36 Speaker 2: I do a little bit of everything. Yeah, try to

25:38 Speaker 2: stay busy.

25:38 Speaker 1: That's that's excellent. I mean doing music videos. Is that

25:42 Speaker 1: probably so much fun? Is it? Yeah?

25:43 Speaker 3: Oh my god, so much fun.

25:44 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:44 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, working usually, like I've worked on music,

25:50 Speaker 2: I've worked on a lot of music videos where bands

25:52 Speaker 2: are either super chill and they're like, yeah, let's do it,

25:54 Speaker 2: or they're like yeah, you know, you guys can do

25:56 Speaker 2: whatever you want, and then as soon as you show up,

25:58 Speaker 2: they have like a million ideas like what they want

26:00 Speaker 2: to shoot, right, So like it's it's kind of funny,

26:04 Speaker 2: like the balance of working with a band. But usually

26:07 Speaker 2: music videos are fun because like you're just doing stuff

26:10 Speaker 2: because it's cool, like yeah, the cool lighting set up,

26:12 Speaker 2: the cool camera move, like, you know, it's a cool vignette.

26:15 Speaker 2: Like you don't need to worry about narrative, you don't

26:18 Speaker 2: need to worry about all this stuff, like it can

26:20 Speaker 2: just be a purely aesthetic piece, which is really fun.

26:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great. Like what's what would be I mean,

26:28 Speaker 1: obviously you don't have to say who it is, but

26:30 Speaker 1: what would be an example of a curve that you've

26:33 Speaker 1: kind of been thrown when when you go to do

26:35 Speaker 1: a music video?

26:36 Speaker 3: You know what, Actually, I'm gonna.

26:39 Speaker 2: I will say the name of the band because it's

26:41 Speaker 2: this is a good curve I'm gonna yeah. Yeah, So

26:44 Speaker 2: we were. It was on the surrealist music video for

26:46 Speaker 2: Flawed Mangoes or Flaming Mangos. I kind of forget the name,

26:49 Speaker 2: sorry guys. Anyway, but so I was working on their

26:52 Speaker 2: video and we were kind of wrapping up for the

26:54 Speaker 2: day and then you know, uh, the creative director of

26:59 Speaker 2: the band whatever, he comes up to us like me

27:02 Speaker 2: and Adrian Morano who's a production designer, and they're.

27:06 Speaker 3: Like, hey, I was key grip on this music video.

27:09 Speaker 2: So anyway, directors like, hey man, we really want to

27:13 Speaker 2: have like a floating guitar gag.

27:15 Speaker 3: Can you do that?

27:17 Speaker 2: And we had no prep for this, We had no

27:20 Speaker 2: like whatever. So you know, I asked Adrian, I'm like, well,

27:24 Speaker 2: do you have fishing line? And she's like, yeah, I

27:26 Speaker 2: have some fishing line. I'm like, all right, cool. So

27:28 Speaker 2: we got two lighting stands and we we pretty much

27:31 Speaker 2: made like a goal post and we raced it up

27:34 Speaker 2: about ten feet, brought the line in, tied the guitar

27:37 Speaker 2: around the what like the strap peg at the top,

27:42 Speaker 2: and then I had another piece of string at the

27:45 Speaker 2: bottom where the other peg was, and I would pretty

27:48 Speaker 2: much just like spin it and and the band ended

27:52 Speaker 2: up using it for like the opening shot of the

27:54 Speaker 2: music video. It's like a it was just really really sick.

27:58 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, that was that was a good curve.

28:01 Speaker 2: Like every now and then, like you get something that's

28:03 Speaker 2: like it wasn't planned, but it is really cool.

28:06 Speaker 3: Okay, you know.

28:08 Speaker 2: Or I worked on Walking Dead Dead City. Okay, we

28:12 Speaker 2: were you know, we were filming. We were filming something

28:15 Speaker 2: we had to we had to for VFX reasons. We

28:18 Speaker 2: had to like set up these they're they're called bamboozles.

28:21 Speaker 2: They're pretty much like two by fours with like fabric,

28:24 Speaker 2: and the fabric was like this like green screen whatever,

28:27 Speaker 2: and they were doing a fire explosion and the bamboozles

28:31 Speaker 2: all burned down.

28:32 Speaker 3: They got they got torched.

28:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know VFX comes with their flame

28:37 Speaker 2: retarded material.

28:38 Speaker 3: They set it up. It was fine.

28:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, well, why couldn't we have done

28:41 Speaker 2: that in the first place? But I can't complain too

28:43 Speaker 2: much because making those bamboozles gave me forty hours of

28:46 Speaker 2: work that week. So it's like it's all a balance

28:48 Speaker 2: sometimes curve Like, curves can be good, curves can.

28:51 Speaker 3: Be bad, you know what I mean? Yeah, no doubt,

28:54 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no doubt.

28:55 Speaker 1: So all right, so tell us more about Joey's big reveal.

28:58 Speaker 1: What's that's kind of the plot here?

29:00 Speaker 3: All right, So Joey's big reveal.

29:02 Speaker 2: It's, uh, group of mafioso's are hanging out together and

29:07 Speaker 2: one of them, Joey, uh, kinda kind of has a

29:11 Speaker 2: secret revealed out to his group. Chaos sort of ensues

29:16 Speaker 2: as Joey kind of breaks down, and then towards the

29:21 Speaker 2: end of the movie we get to see like a

29:22 Speaker 2: day in the life or sorry, a night in the

29:24 Speaker 2: life of of Joey living with the secret that he

29:29 Speaker 2: lives with.

29:29 Speaker 3: Okay, and I promise it's a comedy.

29:31 Speaker 2: Okay, watching it might not be obvious that it is.

29:35 Speaker 1: Okay, is it a dark comedy something like that?

29:37 Speaker 2: Did you It's okay if you if you did end

29:40 Speaker 2: up seeing it, but you should, you should.

29:41 Speaker 1: Well, I saw the clip that you said, but it

29:44 Speaker 1: was just a clip.

29:46 Speaker 3: Well yeah it was. It's it's only six minutes long.

29:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it like stopped it like it didn't show

29:52 Speaker 1: the whole for some reason. Might have been a Google driver.

29:54 Speaker 3: Is huh. Okay, that's really weird.

29:56 Speaker 2: I'm sorry about okies, but yeah, it's a short. It's

30:01 Speaker 2: only the script was only like five or six pages

30:03 Speaker 2: as long as a comedy. You ever see the show,

30:06 Speaker 2: I think you should leave on Netflix.

30:07 Speaker 1: I've heard about it, but I've not actually watched it,

30:10 Speaker 1: but I've heard a lot about it.

30:11 Speaker 2: I'm heavily inspired by a guy named Tim Robinson. He

30:14 Speaker 2: Tim Robinson and Connor O'Malley are kind of like my

30:16 Speaker 2: two big like comedy big main comedy influences, And you know,

30:22 Speaker 2: they really make some crazy, outrageous stuff.

30:24 Speaker 3: So Joey's big reveal definitely toes the line.

30:27 Speaker 2: Between like awkwardness but but but comedy as well and

30:33 Speaker 2: and seriousness and you know, I don't know, I kind

30:36 Speaker 2: of want you guys to be a little confused watching it, right, Yeah?

30:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So what inspired you to? I mean obviously,

30:43 Speaker 1: so you know you talk about your comedy influences. Do

30:46 Speaker 1: you also like, do you like mob stuff? Do you?

30:48 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, so I'm an Italian American Okay, so you know,

30:52 Speaker 2: uh yeah, long story, that's a different show, gotcha. Yeah,

30:59 Speaker 2: I'm the Italian guy with a French last name. But yeah,

31:04 Speaker 2: so I mean big, big squor szy guy big, you know,

31:08 Speaker 2: Brian de Palma.

31:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably actually I don't.

31:12 Speaker 2: Know if I can say this on on the radio,

31:14 Speaker 2: but anyway, big big Italian American cinema guys. So the

31:19 Speaker 2: Mob movies have always been big inspiration. This movie is

31:23 Speaker 2: more it's definitely more absurdism than it is like Mafia Mob.

31:28 Speaker 2: It's it's more of like an aesthetic that I I

31:30 Speaker 2: choose to to use to like tell the story with.

31:35 Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, uh, definitely definitely a big mob guy.

31:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you like the Sopranos. Yes, yeah, oh yeah,

31:42 Speaker 1: my favorite television series of all time.

31:44 Speaker 2: I I also love, you know, good crime shows like

31:47 Speaker 2: Breaking Bad, Fantastic. I know, I know it's not a

31:51 Speaker 2: crime show, but I'm I'm I'm in the midst of

31:53 Speaker 2: watching mad Men right now.

31:55 Speaker 3: I've never seen it before.

31:56 Speaker 1: I never have either. Act.

31:57 Speaker 3: It's really good.

31:58 Speaker 1: Everyone tells me I would love it, but I've ever

32:00 Speaker 1: watched it.

32:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's great. I watch it with my girlfriend.

32:04 Speaker 2: She really likes the show and yeah, you know, yeah, sorry,

32:09 Speaker 2: got a little.

32:10 Speaker 1: No, that's okay. No, it's easy to get sidetracked with

32:12 Speaker 1: mob stuff because you know, if you're really into it,

32:14 Speaker 1: you're really into it, you know, which, oh yeah, which

32:15 Speaker 1: we we obviously both are. I'd blame my mother for

32:19 Speaker 1: that because I remember when I was a kid, she

32:21 Speaker 1: was always talking about she loved uh reading uh uh

32:24 Speaker 1: biographies about mobsters. Yeah, like she was really in a

32:28 Speaker 1: John Dillinger and you know, the the Chicago Mobsters because

32:31 Speaker 1: she's from Chicago's nice, She's really into all that, and

32:34 Speaker 1: then she got me into it. But uh yeah, So

32:38 Speaker 1: so it makes sense that you would want to make

32:39 Speaker 1: something like that. Do you like, like how are you.

32:44 Speaker 1: Obviously you're still putting the finishing touches on this show.

32:47 Speaker 1: We say, do you know when this is going to

32:50 Speaker 1: be released officially?

32:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I plan on doing the festival run. Okay,

32:55 Speaker 2: I will be doing like a big test screening so

33:00 Speaker 2: that I can so that people can come and check

33:03 Speaker 2: out the movie, which hopefully I'd like to do that

33:05 Speaker 2: sometime in like May or June. We're getting really really close.

33:11 Speaker 2: But the idea if if you want to watch Joey's

33:13 Speaker 2: big reveal, go out to a film festival, watch it.

33:15 Speaker 2: After about like after about a year and a half

33:18 Speaker 2: of doing festivals, I will throw it online. But you know,

33:23 Speaker 2: I've already been building up the Instagram for that, so

33:25 Speaker 2: we're almost at nineteen hundred followers, which is pretty cool.

33:28 Speaker 3: So yeah, I want.

33:30 Speaker 2: People to go and see it in festivals and experience

33:32 Speaker 2: it on the big screen. But you know, I also

33:36 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time and money working on this one,

33:38 Speaker 2: so I want as many people to see it, so

33:40 Speaker 2: it will definitely be living online at you know, at

33:44 Speaker 2: the end of its festival run.

33:46 Speaker 1: Now, So in terms of festivals, are there are these

33:49 Speaker 1: festivals where there there's a category specifically for short films.

33:53 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean so most most

33:57 Speaker 2: film festivals, like i'd say, like a majority of the

34:01 Speaker 2: entries are going to be short films. And then you

34:04 Speaker 2: will have I mean yeah, obviously the bigger ones cons

34:06 Speaker 2: and and what's.

34:09 Speaker 3: Gosh, Sundance, Yes, thank you, Sundance Tribeca.

34:13 Speaker 2: Like you know, they're all going to have more you know,

34:15 Speaker 2: feature films and it you know, the future films are

34:18 Speaker 2: going to take the cake there. But but they're definitely

34:20 Speaker 2: shorts that still play at the big ones and a

34:23 Speaker 2: lot of local festivals and a lot of festivals throughout

34:26 Speaker 2: the country. Like really most of the most of what

34:29 Speaker 2: they're getting in are our short films. Okay, yeah, so

34:33 Speaker 2: you'll go, you know, watch some shorts, meet some filmmakers,

34:36 Speaker 2: you know, do some networking.

34:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh wow, there's a pigeon right there.

34:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the the falcon cam.

34:44 Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome. Sorry, but I am like a squirrel

34:47 Speaker 2: with ADHD.

34:48 Speaker 1: It's all right, Well that problem. So do you think

34:51 Speaker 1: that helps you though in your work?

34:55 Speaker 3: No, not even a little bit. I don't know. Maybe,

34:58 Speaker 3: like the.

34:59 Speaker 1: Reason I asked you that question, So I have a

35:00 Speaker 1: friend and longtime listeners are familiar with them, longtime listeners

35:04 Speaker 1: on my show, Doctor Kevin ross Emory, and he's written

35:06 Speaker 1: books about like he has a book called Managing the Gift,

35:08 Speaker 1: which is about how if you have a d D

35:10 Speaker 1: and ADHD, how you know the ways that can actually

35:12 Speaker 1: help you and you could use it to your advantage.

35:14 Speaker 3: He's got to send me a copy.

35:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of yeah, you should talk to him,

35:17 Speaker 1: should introduce you to him, because a lot of successful

35:19 Speaker 1: people you know, have that or they just have very

35:21 Speaker 1: overactive minds. And and it can actually help you to

35:25 Speaker 1: focus because it's not it's not necessarily that that there's

35:31 Speaker 1: too many things distracting you. It's just that you know,

35:34 Speaker 1: you're you, you have something specific that you want to

35:36 Speaker 1: focus on, that you want to be able to hyper

35:38 Speaker 1: focus on and and and if you can do that,

35:40 Speaker 1: then it can actually help you solve problems quickly and

35:44 Speaker 1: you know, get things done quicker. There's there's a lot

35:46 Speaker 1: of ways that you can use at your advantage.

35:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely.

35:48 Speaker 2: Think you know, I'm I'm very i am very scatterbrained,

35:52 Speaker 2: which does hurt I feel like it hurts me more

35:54 Speaker 2: than it helps me. However, you know, having to be

35:58 Speaker 2: having to like think of a lot of different solutions

36:00 Speaker 2: for things.

36:01 Speaker 3: It's something that I can do.

36:02 Speaker 2: You have to be a problem solver on set, whether

36:05 Speaker 2: you're a grip or you're a director or you're a

36:07 Speaker 2: production assistant, Like you got to think on your feet

36:10 Speaker 2: and if you want to be successful, you got to

36:12 Speaker 2: you got to be able to do that.

36:13 Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's one of the things doctor Kevin says,

36:15 Speaker 1: as people with ADHD are excellent solving problems. Yeah, because

36:18 Speaker 1: they can think of solutions that most people can't think of.

36:21 Speaker 1: Things will occur to you that most people won't won't

36:23 Speaker 1: necessarily think of. So yeah, it's it's it's interesting stuff,

36:27 Speaker 1: and I I kind of suspect that it might be

36:30 Speaker 1: something more helpful to you than you necessarily realize.

36:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, there's there's like there's a

36:36 Speaker 2: lot to handle, and I feel like I feel like

36:38 Speaker 2: I can handle it. Just every now and then I'll

36:41 Speaker 2: get myself into that almost like trance like state of

36:44 Speaker 2: like oh oh shoot, like I can't like I can't

36:47 Speaker 2: do anything today until I take care of this one

36:49 Speaker 2: specific thing. But then at least you're taking care of

36:52 Speaker 2: that thing. So it's like it's like a balance. It's

36:54 Speaker 2: really a dance, right right.

36:56 Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about, because I have

36:58 Speaker 1: I've never been diagnosed with anything like that, but I have,

37:00 Speaker 1: but I know that my brain works that way. Sometimes

37:03 Speaker 1: Jenny would she's not in the room, but she'd probably

37:06 Speaker 1: back me up on that, and I'll hyper focus on

37:08 Speaker 1: solving something specific that where it's that thing like you.

37:11 Speaker 1: I never heard anyone describe it quite the way you

37:13 Speaker 1: just did, but but you're right, that thing where you

37:16 Speaker 1: feel like you can't do anything else until you solve

37:20 Speaker 1: this specific problem that's in front of you.

37:23 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

37:24 Speaker 2: So I'm one of the ways that I This is

37:26 Speaker 2: one of the things that I regret from Joey's big

37:27 Speaker 2: reveal is that so my my director of photography, Cat Holmes,

37:31 Speaker 2: positively fantastic. She's amazing to work with, She's amazing what

37:34 Speaker 2: she does. She comes from a lighting background, so I'm

37:38 Speaker 2: a little bit more biased towards working with her, but anyway,

37:42 Speaker 2: she's fantastic, And I pretty much told her, I'm like, hey, look,

37:46 Speaker 2: there's like two or three shots I really want in

37:49 Speaker 2: this movie. Everything else is just like wides and coverage,

37:53 Speaker 2: have fun and I did that so that I could

37:57 Speaker 2: focus on my actors' performances. I could focus on on,

38:01 Speaker 2: you know, making sure that they're they're nailing the bits.

38:05 Speaker 2: But the double edged sort of that is like, yes,

38:08 Speaker 2: my movie looks great, but there's there's a lot of

38:10 Speaker 2: it that I'm like, man, I wish I thought about

38:12 Speaker 2: shots more like I wish that I had, you know,

38:15 Speaker 2: like sort of like a momentum building to a certain thing.

38:18 Speaker 2: And that's just one of the things as a filmmaker

38:20 Speaker 2: is like a same thing, like like the costume design,

38:23 Speaker 2: Like I wish I went with a completely different costume

38:25 Speaker 2: design for my movie than what I did really and

38:28 Speaker 2: oh yeah, because you know, like I had my buddy

38:30 Speaker 2: Victor gave me a note. He's like he's like, I

38:32 Speaker 2: get that these guys are all like wearing like mafia

38:35 Speaker 2: adjacent outfits, but like what is their relationship? And that

38:40 Speaker 2: was like that was a hard note, but a very

38:42 Speaker 2: good note, because I'm like, Okay, if they're all wearing suits,

38:45 Speaker 2: then they're Mafia guys. They're they're obviously together, but like

38:48 Speaker 2: you know, you know, I got one guy and attracts

38:51 Speaker 2: to one guy in a suit, and then two guys

38:53 Speaker 2: were casual, and I'm just like, damn it, like you know,

38:57 Speaker 2: so it's like, there there are things that I wish

38:59 Speaker 2: that I did. You know, I believe very heavily in collaboration,

39:04 Speaker 2: so I'm like, I'm very happy that I had such

39:06 Speaker 2: a great group of people around me to make my

39:08 Speaker 2: movie better. But there are definitely things like you know,

39:12 Speaker 2: camera like camera shots and wardrobe that I just wish

39:16 Speaker 2: I thought more about. But I'm being tugged in so

39:19 Speaker 2: many different directions that there's only so much that I

39:22 Speaker 2: can do. Exactly, no projects ever going to be perfect.

39:24 Speaker 2: It's a short film, you.

39:25 Speaker 1: Know, right right exactly if you're just joining us, we're

39:28 Speaker 1: talking with a filmmaker, Tyler Laplant. Yeah, musicians talk about

39:34 Speaker 1: that too, you know. They they put out something and

39:37 Speaker 1: then they you know, We've had conversations on the show

39:39 Speaker 1: with various musicians. I'll say, well, you know, I wish

39:42 Speaker 1: I wish I had done this differently. I wish I

39:44 Speaker 1: had mixed this. That's a very common one. I wish

39:46 Speaker 1: I had mixed that differently, or made sure that it

39:50 Speaker 1: was mixed differently, or you know, or or I wish

39:53 Speaker 1: the song was longer or shorter or whatever. So yeah,

39:56 Speaker 1: I mean you're always going to have that, you know.

39:59 Speaker 1: It even happens with you know, doing a radio show.

40:01 Speaker 1: It's an instant gratification thing. You know. I come in

40:04 Speaker 1: and do it and it's live and bang, that's it.

40:06 Speaker 1: But when I go back and listen to it later

40:09 Speaker 1: because I have to cut up the segments, post some

40:11 Speaker 1: individually and so forth, I I'll off and even just

40:14 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I misused that word. That wasn't the

40:18 Speaker 1: word I was looking for. Oh why did I ask

40:20 Speaker 1: that question? That was dumb? You know. It's it's hard

40:23 Speaker 1: not to be self critical when you're a creative person,

40:26 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, with anything that you make, it's you know,

40:29 Speaker 1: and I'll beat myself up over, you know, just so

40:32 Speaker 1: I mispronounced that name or something. You know. No, you know.

40:35 Speaker 2: And I think there's a good I think there's a

40:37 Speaker 2: good balance of that because I think the best artists

40:40 Speaker 2: are critical of their work and they're like, no, this

40:43 Speaker 2: is bad, like objectively, I made a bad choice here.

40:46 Speaker 2: And I think there are so many, especially filmmakers, Like

40:49 Speaker 2: there's so many filmmakers that really just want to pat

40:50 Speaker 2: themselves on the back all the time and be like, oh,

40:53 Speaker 2: you know like I made you know, I made this movie.

40:55 Speaker 2: It was really really hard and I worked really really

40:57 Speaker 2: hard on it. But that doesn't mean that it's a

40:59 Speaker 2: good movie, right, And and you know that's the thing

41:02 Speaker 2: is like, and if you keep making like a short

41:05 Speaker 2: film each time and you're not getting better each time,

41:08 Speaker 2: then you're not growing or or or or getting better

41:11 Speaker 2: as a filmmaker. And that's the thing with me, is

41:14 Speaker 2: like I will be extremely hard on myself so that

41:17 Speaker 2: the next one is just a little bit better, And

41:20 Speaker 2: the next one is a little bit better.

41:22 Speaker 1: Right right, no doubt do you already have in mind?

41:25 Speaker 1: Uh what you the next one is gonna be.

41:28 Speaker 2: So I'm writing a I'm writing a feature right now

41:30 Speaker 2: called Cigarette Girls, and I'm actually I'm in I'm in

41:34 Speaker 2: the moment of thinking about maybe ripping it up and

41:37 Speaker 2: starting starting new, really new, like the same idea different

41:42 Speaker 2: different genre of music. It's it's about like these girls

41:46 Speaker 2: who work at at a at a music venue and

41:48 Speaker 2: they sell they sell cigarettes and it gets taken over

41:51 Speaker 2: by like a you know, extremist political group. Yeah yeah,

41:57 Speaker 2: so and they take the bar back. But anyway, so

42:02 Speaker 2: I'm writing now, honestly, like I I have a couple

42:04 Speaker 2: of shorts that I want to do. My girlfriend goes

42:08 Speaker 2: to Wellesley University and or Wellesley College, and that's like

42:13 Speaker 2: a famous, you know, all women's school, Mona, Lisa smile.

42:16 Speaker 3: You know the whole thing.

42:18 Speaker 2: I I kind of want to do a short film

42:21 Speaker 2: about like a boyfriend's association of just all the guys

42:25 Speaker 2: who like you know, hang out with hang out with

42:28 Speaker 2: each other because their girlfriends are very busy at at

42:31 Speaker 2: this all female college.

42:34 Speaker 3: Yeah.

42:34 Speaker 2: Just you know, it's it's something, it's something brewing around

42:37 Speaker 2: in my head. But if I'm being honest with you,

42:39 Speaker 2: I know it's gonna sound like so hypocritical as you

42:42 Speaker 2: put the dun dun dumb music in or whatever. But

42:45 Speaker 2: I kinda I don't love watching short films. I don't

42:49 Speaker 2: love making them because I want to make features.

42:53 Speaker 3: That's that's that's the goal.

42:55 Speaker 2: And I'd rather like all the time and effort in

42:58 Speaker 2: resources that I put in to making a short film.

43:01 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I just want to be doing this

43:04 Speaker 2: for features because features are more tangible and I can

43:07 Speaker 2: like get a feature on two B or it could

43:10 Speaker 2: you know, hit a festival and maybe blow up. Like

43:14 Speaker 2: features are kind of where it's at So I'd like

43:16 Speaker 2: to do like one or two more like shorts and

43:19 Speaker 2: then pretty much devote my time into making features, right, Yeah,

43:24 Speaker 2: I'd like to. I'd like to have a feature out

43:26 Speaker 2: before I'm thirty. Maybe knock on Wood that'd be great.

43:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's that's excellent, excellent. So Joey's

43:34 Speaker 1: big reveal. Forgive me if I if I ask you

43:37 Speaker 1: this already? Sure, do you know when the official well

43:40 Speaker 1: or when it's gonna be Yeah, I.

43:43 Speaker 2: Gotta I gotta finish up the credit sequence and a

43:47 Speaker 2: couple a couple of tiny things, and then it'll probably

43:50 Speaker 2: take a month for color correction and sound mixing, and

43:53 Speaker 2: then once that's done, I'll have a movie. So I'm

43:57 Speaker 2: looking at doing like a test screening night where you know,

44:00 Speaker 2: open open to the general public to come test screen

44:03 Speaker 2: this movie.

44:04 Speaker 3: I say test screen.

44:05 Speaker 2: It is not a premiere because festivals are very specific

44:09 Speaker 2: about that, to say, test screening of Joey's big reveal

44:13 Speaker 2: sometime in I don't know, May May or Jue. Oh

44:16 Speaker 2: that soon, okay, gratefully. Yeah, We're we're we're getting really close. Okay, yeah,

44:22 Speaker 2: I've been. We shot this back in like December. So, oh, yeah,

44:26 Speaker 2: I took a month off. My my dog died and

44:28 Speaker 2: then he didn't kill her. But yeah, so I took

44:35 Speaker 2: a month off and got back in editing, and we've

44:38 Speaker 2: done like four or five rough drafts and we're getting

44:42 Speaker 2: we're getting pretty close.

44:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty close. That's fantastic. Do you know where you're

44:47 Speaker 1: going to do the test screening? And you're going to

44:48 Speaker 1: do it in Nashua or.

44:50 Speaker 2: I plan on doing it in Massachusetts? Sorry, sorry New

44:53 Speaker 2: Hampshire people, Wow another Falcon. Sorry anyway, I plan on

44:58 Speaker 2: doing New Hampshire. Sorry, I planned in Massachusetts. I'd love

45:02 Speaker 2: to do it at like a really cool theater, like

45:04 Speaker 2: you know, the Region Theater in Arlington or you know

45:08 Speaker 2: Coolidge Corner Brattle something like that. Sure, it's really just

45:12 Speaker 2: gonna be a question of just like what place can

45:15 Speaker 2: I afford to rent right now?

45:17 Speaker 1: That makes sense.

45:18 Speaker 2: But yeah, so hopefully, hopefully, very very soon, I'll send

45:21 Speaker 2: invites to you and everybody else.

45:23 Speaker 1: Excellent, Yeah, excellent, wonderful, wonderful. Let's see, well we are.

45:29 Speaker 1: Is there anything you want us to know about Joey's

45:30 Speaker 1: big reveal that we didn't talk about? Did you want

45:36 Speaker 1: to did you mention any of the the actors who

45:38 Speaker 1: are in it.

45:39 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Actually I'd love to talk about like

45:41 Speaker 2: cast and cruise super fast.

45:42 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

45:43 Speaker 3: I literally like I'm you know, everybody.

45:45 Speaker 2: I don't believe in the tour director like Wes Anderson

45:48 Speaker 2: or whatever, Like I think he makes great movies, but

45:49 Speaker 2: I think it's can I say BS or is that

45:51 Speaker 2: gonna you says?

45:52 Speaker 1: Okay?

45:52 Speaker 3: Cool?

45:53 Speaker 2: So I think I think the tour director is BS

45:56 Speaker 2: because the most you're you're Wes. Wes Anderson is just

45:59 Speaker 2: as good as Dolly Grip And I'm just as good

46:03 Speaker 2: as my movie is just as good as as everybody

46:06 Speaker 2: else working on it. And so I really had an

46:08 Speaker 2: incredible cast and crew, Cat Holmes, Dping Mel Nestrick working

46:14 Speaker 2: as my gaffer. In terms of cast and crew, Joey's

46:18 Speaker 2: played by uh David Torres, junior, fantastic actor. Most recently

46:24 Speaker 2: was in this really big movie or not big movie,

46:26 Speaker 2: but this movie kind of blew up called ephis. It's

46:28 Speaker 2: a baseball slice of life movie. Another ephis star Peter Minkara,

46:33 Speaker 2: he plays Tony. My buddy Ashton O'Brien plays Alfredo, and

46:39 Speaker 2: this guy Pat Say, He's like Instagram kind of Instagram famous,

46:42 Speaker 2: which is cool. He was like the last minute addition

46:45 Speaker 2: to our our cast because his you know, the the

46:48 Speaker 2: guy who I had booked for his role, like dropped

46:51 Speaker 2: out like three days before filming. I was like, oh crap.

46:55 Speaker 2: So Pat Shay hopped in and he was great to

46:59 Speaker 2: work with. Uh and he plays Christopher. And you know,

47:04 Speaker 2: I had some buddies come on to be some background

47:06 Speaker 2: actors towards the end. But I don't want to give

47:08 Speaker 2: away too many okay, too many people. There's some spoiler territory,

47:12 Speaker 2: but uh, okay, okay.

47:14 Speaker 3: Yeah.

47:14 Speaker 2: Really incredible local cast and crew. I mean, I love

47:19 Speaker 2: you guys. Thank you so much. If if any of

47:20 Speaker 2: you end up listening to this, thank you so much.

47:22 Speaker 2: I owe this whole movie to everybody.

47:24 Speaker 1: Oh that's very cool, very cool. What about Tyler? For

47:28 Speaker 1: people who want to keep up with everything that you're doing,

47:29 Speaker 1: where should they go online? Sure?

47:31 Speaker 2: So if you look up Joey's Big Reveal on Instagram,

47:33 Speaker 2: you can find my page there. We also have a

47:35 Speaker 2: Facebook page Joey's Big Reveal my Instagram if you want

47:39 Speaker 2: to check out my photography or you know, just keep

47:42 Speaker 2: tabs on me. Is Tyler Video twenty seven. You can

47:45 Speaker 2: find updates on Joey's big reveal there as well. I'm

47:49 Speaker 2: mostly active on Instagram. Okay, I don't know. I have

47:52 Speaker 2: some stuff out there on YouTube. You can you know,

47:55 Speaker 2: find through my my links and stuff. But yeah, come check,

47:59 Speaker 2: come check us out. Joey's big reveal. Got a lot

48:01 Speaker 2: of great bts, a lot of great stuff. Come in

48:04 Speaker 2: and look out for Joey's big reveal at a film

48:07 Speaker 2: festival near you, hopefully very soon.

48:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, nice, Well, congratulations on that being being almost

48:13 Speaker 1: done and I can't wait to see the final the

48:16 Speaker 1: final film.

48:17 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, man, I really appreciate absolutely.

48:19 Speaker 1: Tyler Laplant from Nashua, New Hampshire filmmaker and wonderful to

48:23 Speaker 1: have you here.