Adam Zane | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:05 Speaker 1: Thank you.

0:06 Speaker 2: Thank you.

0:49 Speaker 1: Forget the math It's impossible now Two million flies.

1:19 Speaker 2: In a jar full of sound No path to win It's a hard road to drive.

1:31 Speaker 1: Don't tempt me now I've been too many miles guitar solo Too many times.

1:53 Speaker 3: I just can't make Sands of time For you to remain No path to win It's a hard road to drive Don't tempt me now I've been too many miles.

2:19 Speaker 1: Guitar solo.

2:57 Speaker 2: Thank you.

3:26 Speaker 4: Oh, I love that. The song is called Jars of Water. It's from the album Dust and Distance. And Adam Zane is here with us in studio. Hello, Adam. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Say that again.

3:38 Speaker 5: Oh, hi, Matt. How are you?

3:40 Speaker 4: I am here. Second time I've done that today. No, that is so good. A bit of a departure from Ableblood.

3:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit. I mean, it's still got that dark feel.

3:53 Speaker 6: Yeah.

3:54 Speaker 5: There's no fuzz.

3:54 Speaker 7: Yeah.

3:55 Speaker 4: How do you describe that? Because it is, it's, you know, in the whole album, it's dark, it's sort of haunting is a word that comes to mind.

4:05 Speaker 5: Kind of moody.

4:06 Speaker 4: Moody, yeah. How do you, but it's not, you know, it's not like singer-songwriter stuff. It's not, I mean, how do you describe your sound with this album?

4:15 Speaker 5: You know, I'm the last person you should be asking that question. Every musician says that.

4:20 Speaker 4: Yeah.

4:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I would just describe it as a dark, acoustic i mean i borderline psych psychedelic but it's acoustic so it's kind of hard to get right psych but it's kind of always what's going on in my in my brain sound wise.

4:36 Speaker 4: Okay okay um and you had mentioned too kind of the origins of the album is the guitar that you bought it sounds like.

4:43 Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah i bought it i was up at the music mill down down here and uh uh yeah my my wife and i were admiring this, this Martin, I mean, not a Martin, a Taylor, a American dream that was hanging on the wall.

4:57 Speaker 4: Yeah.

4:57 Speaker 5: And, uh, so I was having a haunt about it. I, I, I went home and my wife was like, you need to go back to the music mill and get that guitar. And I did, I got it. And songs just seem to be pouring out of it lately.

5:11 Speaker 4: No kidding.

5:12 Speaker 5: It's like, I was, I was supposed to own this.

5:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

5:16 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, cause I know today I was supposed to come and play a couple of songs, but it developed a crack in the back of it.

5:22 Speaker 4: Oh no.

5:23 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I've got it at the Luthier right now and, and he's tending to it.

5:27 Speaker 4: Yeah.

5:28 Speaker 5: And, uh, yeah, hopefully I'll have it back in the next few days.

5:31 Speaker 4: Oh, good. Good.

5:31 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep.

5:33 Speaker 5: Um, Jake Falconer, he's a awesome Luthier down in, uh, he's down near Worcester. Oh, North Grafton.

5:38 Speaker 4: Okay.

5:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.

5:39 Speaker 5: So it's a little bit of a drive, but the guy knows what he's doing. He's got a really awesome band too called Swarm Catcher.

5:45 Speaker 4: Oh, that's a cool name.

5:46 Speaker 7: Yeah.

5:46 Speaker 5: It's a great name. He's the solo project that he does.

5:48 Speaker 4: Oh really?

5:49 Speaker 3: Yeah.

5:49 Speaker 5: In, uh, Yeah, it's awesome. Really heavy stuff. And yeah, all around good guy. Knows his stuff.

5:56 Speaker 4: Now, did you intend to do this album before you bought that guitar? Or did you buy the guitar and that inspired you to do these songs?

6:03 Speaker 5: Some of these songs are really, really old.

6:05 Speaker 4: Okay.

6:07 Speaker 5: But most of these songs, yeah, I'd say eight of the 11 songs are written since I bought the guitar.

6:12 Speaker 2: Wow.

6:13 Speaker 5: Yeah.

6:14 Speaker 4: It really, it called to you.

6:16 Speaker 5: It really did.

6:17 Speaker 4: And quite a few, quite a few songs on the album too. This is definitely a full length, 11 tracks.

6:24 Speaker 4: What went into the decision to do a full album? Because, and I feel like we've probably talked about this before with you on the show, but you know, there's so many different ways to release music. Now you can do singles, you can do EPs, you can do albums, you know, a lot of artists now they'll kind of the inverse of how it used to be. They'll release a single, a series of singles that eventually coalesce into an EP or an album.

6:43 Speaker 5: Um, I, I tried to do that. I recorded this in April and so I started releasing singles and I was doing it every like six weeks or so. First three singles.

6:53 Speaker 4: Yeah.

6:53 Speaker 5: And then I got impatient and I was just like, you know what? I can't keep doing that. I just, I was just like, let's just put the whole thing out.

6:59 Speaker 4: No kidding.

7:00 Speaker 5: So yeah, I actually had, I had dropped the whole entire album on a band camp back in June.

7:07 Speaker 4: Okay.

7:07 Speaker 5: Probably like two or three days after I released the first single.

7:10 Speaker 2: Yeah.

7:10 Speaker 5: But then I didn't release it on, all the whole album on all the streams okay um until september 8th okay so i did i did a few singles excuse me i did a few singles and then i just got i was like i can't keep doing this i i need it all out there so now it's here well.

7:28 Speaker 4: That's the thing when you've got when you've got an album's worth of material recorded and you're really proud of it you want to share with the world and it's like uh that's something that always uh i'm always curious about is you know how do you maintain the discipline to not just put it all out when obviously you want people to hear it you know how do you sit on it it's funny you hear these stories um you know the music industry is full of horror stories and um something that there's so many artists this has happened to like they they sign a record contract and they record an album and then for whatever reason the label decides it's not the right time or you know whatever their reasoning is and they shelve it and you know, not anything I've ever experienced, but I can only imagine what that's like.

8:06 Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

8:07 Speaker 6: Right.

8:07 Speaker 5: You put all that time and effort and creativity into it. And yeah. And then they just like, yeah, or whatever.

8:13 Speaker 4: And then you just, you don't know if it's ever going to come out and you don't, you don't own it. It's not like you can release it yourself.

8:19 Speaker 5: Right.

8:19 Speaker 4: Right.

8:20 Speaker 5: Well, that's the good thing about these days. It's like, do you really need a label unless you're like really starting to get big, big, big, right. Exactly. Like, Just you can put it out and it doesn't cost hardly anything to do it. You know, like you can record and, you know, you go to the right studios and stuff. It's going to cost a little bit of money, but they're going to do a really good job.

8:41 Speaker 4: Yeah.

8:42 Speaker 5: And then you get the rest of it's up to you.

8:44 Speaker 4: Right. Exactly.

8:45 Speaker 5: And you got Instagram, you got Facebook and all this stuff that you can promote on. And there's millions of people on these on these social media things, you know. So I don't know.

8:55 Speaker 7: I don't.

8:56 Speaker 5: Unless you're really starting to gain a lot of steam, I'm not sure a record label is super necessary these days.

9:03 Speaker 4: Some people end up regretting it. Yeah. Where did you record these?

9:08 Speaker 5: So that song we had just heard, I actually recorded in the back room of my house.

9:13 Speaker 4: No kidding.

9:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just got Reaper, and I was fooling around with it, and I thought it ended up sounding pretty good. The last 10 songs on there, I recorded at Loud Sun over in Jaffrey. okay yeah ben rogers he's uh i we worked he's he's recorded the first two able blood albums as well as as this one so i really like working with him we have a good rapport when in the studio.

9:36 Speaker 4: And yeah so yeah yeah it's probably almost intuitive i'd imagine.

9:40 Speaker 5: It really is getting there yeah like he it's just such a comfortable he's in the middle of nowhere in a horse barn that he remodeled into a into a recording studio okay and it's just like a nice vibe in there it's nice and quiet and and All around good experience every time I go.

9:58 Speaker 3: Yeah.

9:59 Speaker 4: Oh, that's great. We should play another one. I'll let you pick.

10:05 Speaker 5: All right. Let's do Haunts Me Still.

10:07 Speaker 4: Haunts Me Still. Is there any kind of... Yeah, this one really kind of stood out to me too. Something about the lyrics. Is there a story to this one?

10:17 Speaker 5: Most of the songs. Are about me kind of going through a transition, you know, like having a relationship for 20 years and, and leaving that relationship and then meeting the absolute love of my life. Yeah. Um, and I think most of these songs are kind of that explaining that transition.

10:40 Speaker 4: Okay.

10:41 Speaker 1: Yeah.

10:41 Speaker 4: Oh, cool.

10:42 Speaker 5: This is definitely part of that.

10:44 Speaker 4: Okay. All right. This is called haunts me still. Again, this is from a dust and distance, uh, by Adam Zane. Check it out.

11:21 Speaker 2: What I tried to put away haunts me still We can drown another way and it haunts me still Push it back, it doesn't sway, lose my strength Know I'm one, break my teeth and it hurts me still Hurts me still What I tried to put away.

12:52 Speaker 5: Haunts me still.

12:56 Speaker 2: We can drown another way, but it haunts me still.

13:02 Speaker 5: Push it back, it doesn't sway.

13:05 Speaker 2: Lose my strength. Know I'm one to break my teeth, and it hurts me still.

13:15 Speaker 5: Hurts me still.

13:23 Speaker 4: That is so good. Haunts Me Still by Adam Zane from the album Dust and Distance. Yeah, I think that's probably my favorite. That is just so good.

13:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, every time I hear it still, I get a little bit of goosebumps.

13:35 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

13:36 Speaker 5: It's kind of weird saying that about my own music, but it's... Oh, I like it.

13:40 Speaker 4: Oh, that's great. That's great. And it's cool, too, that you release it on Bandcamp first. You know, I'm a big proponent of Bandcamp. You're very artist-friendly, where a lot of platforms are not. And also, too, something that a lot of people don't realize is if you get the music from Bandcamp, you get a higher quality file than if you just stream it on YouTube or something.

14:01 Speaker 5: Plus, you get to interact with the artists a lot more. Like, you can't do that on Spotify or Apple Music.

14:07 Speaker 1: True.

14:07 Speaker 5: They have their place. But in band camp, you can send me an email and be like, hey, I like your music. And I can respond to you and be like, thank you very much.

14:15 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:15 Speaker 5: Tell them how much I appreciate, you know, their comments. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's more of a direct.

14:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.

14:26 Speaker 1: Absolutely.

14:27 Speaker 4: What comes first for you in writing these songs? I suspect, because you mentioned the guitar part. really kind of opened things up for you, that guitar that you bought. I suspect it's the music, but maybe not.

14:36 Speaker 5: No, mostly, most of the time I'll come up with a rhythm.

14:40 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:40 Speaker 5: And then the lyrics, I don't really have a lot of trouble writing lyrics. It's more stream of consciousness for me. So yeah, the rhythm comes and I'm like, oh, I can put words to this. And then I'll just start writing as I'm, as I'm strumming the, strumming the chords.

14:55 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:55 Speaker 3: Yeah.

14:56 Speaker 4: Cause you write all the lyrics in Abel, right?

14:58 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:58 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:58 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:59 Speaker 4: That's what I thought. Um, Uh, are there any of these that were, because the songs, you know, they feel deeply personal. I mean, were any of these difficult to write in terms of like, did you struggle with any of these as far as saying what you wanted to say or, um, second guessing yourself at all?

15:16 Speaker 5: Or yeah, there's always a second guess. It's always rewriting, you know, like I'll write the lyrics and I'll be like, well, this doesn't really, it's not, I'm trying to figure out the vibe as I'm writing the lyrics.

15:25 Speaker 4: Yeah.

15:25 Speaker 5: And, and so, yeah, I'll have to rewrite stuff. And, and some songs do, take a while. Like, I'm working on a song now that I've gotten one rhythm to, and I've gotten the words, and I like the words, but I can't figure out where to go.

15:42 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:43 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? And that happens a lot. And a lot of these songs, like Undecided, the lyrics were a struggle.

15:49 Speaker 4: Really?

15:49 Speaker 5: I'd have to change the order of the verses. Okay. And then change the words. And you're never always satisfied on every single song.

15:59 Speaker 4: Sure, sure.

16:00 Speaker 5: With the final product. And so sometimes the songs even change after the recordings and that one might be one of those songs that happens. I mean, I like the rhythm. I like the way the verses go, but I don't always like the the story that's happening right then and there.

16:19 Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. So are you playing these live? Have you been playing?

16:23 Speaker 2: Yeah.

16:23 Speaker 1: Yeah.

16:23 Speaker 5: We're going to be playing, I'm going to be playing a November 6th in Nashville over at the spot. Oh, outstanding. Love the spot. That place is great. Mike, the owner, he gets it.

16:34 Speaker 7: Yeah.

16:34 Speaker 4: He's been on the show.

16:35 Speaker 2: Yeah.

16:35 Speaker 4: Yeah.

16:36 Speaker 5: Oh, good.

16:36 Speaker 4: The healer. They call him.

16:38 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, he's super nice. Like I've gone into and, and introduced myself to him and, man, we just sat there and had a nice conversation. And, and he's just, he, he's so helpful to musicians, you know, when, when they're there.

16:52 Speaker 4: Yeah.

16:54 Speaker 5: I can't say enough nice things about him.

16:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Prior to, prior to doing this project and releasing this album, had you done, had you already been doing solo shows? Just you and a guitar?

17:08 Speaker 5: Open mics.

17:09 Speaker 4: Okay.

17:09 Speaker 5: Yeah. Just kind of, testing the songs out oh okay yeah but never anything really formal yeah um i've learned a lot in able blood on how to put shows together so i've been kind of using that experience to start doing yeah this you know like i've got auto from dust prophet i've convinced him to do some acoustic songs so he's going to do really yeah he's coming to play on november 6th with me oh cool um adam grant from the band mercury burns first really he's got a solo album out that's all instrumental oh i didn't know that fantastic oh wow um so he's going to come and do some songs with his daughter really okay yeah brian hinkley who used to be in the band tree he's the original guitar player and he's in a band now called 99 shots he's coming up from boston to do a A set.

18:01 Speaker 4: No kidding. Yeah.

18:02 Speaker 5: It's going to be a really fun night.

18:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

18:04 Speaker 4: Sounds it. So that's November 6th at the spot.

18:06 Speaker 5: Yeah.

18:07 Speaker 4: Oh, that's very cool.

18:08 Speaker 2: Yeah.

18:08 Speaker 5: Very cool.

18:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to be in a band with Otto a long time ago, Chemical Distance.

18:12 Speaker 5: Right.

18:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.

18:13 Speaker 1: I remember.

18:14 Speaker 4: Otto's amazing. I love seeing him in Dust Profit, too, because he's been in a lot of bands. But Dust Profit, I feel like with Dust Profit, he kind of found his home. You know what I mean? He did. Because he's been in that band for a while now.

18:26 Speaker 5: He has.

18:26 Speaker 4: They've done a lot.

18:27 Speaker 5: He has a lot of side things that he does, too. Yeah. There's a lot of creativity flowing out of him.

18:33 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah.

18:35 Speaker 5: Really good at capturing it.

18:36 Speaker 4: Yes, yes.

18:37 Speaker 5: That's a hard thing for artists to do.

18:39 Speaker 4: Right, right.

18:39 Speaker 5: Myself included. It's hard once, you know, to actually get it, catch it, and be able to keep it.

18:45 Speaker 4: Yes, yes.

18:46 Speaker 5: And he's good at that.

18:47 Speaker 4: He is, he is. Now, what about Ableblood? Is Ableblood still staying busy as well?

18:51 Speaker 5: We played last night up at the Shasky.

18:53 Speaker 4: Oh, no kidding?

18:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, we opened up for Tree. Oh, I'll be damned. Inverter was there.

18:56 Speaker 4: Oh, wow.

18:57 Speaker 5: TFR. What a night.

18:59 Speaker 4: Yeah.

19:00 Speaker 5: I'm still recovering.

19:01 Speaker 4: Inverter's been on the show. They're amazing.

19:03 Speaker 5: They're really, really good.

19:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:04 Speaker 5: Live there's locally they're, they're one of the better live acts right now.

19:10 Speaker 4: Yeah.

19:11 Speaker 5: Awesome.

19:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Really good. So able blood is still staying active while you're doing this. Yep.

19:17 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:17 Speaker 5: Yeah.

19:18 Speaker 4: Excellent. Was it like when you first started playing these live, was that, cause I, I've never had that experience. Like I'm a bass player. I've only played in bands and, you know, obviously when you're in a band, there's a certain safety to that. You're all on stage together. It's like a brotherhood, you know, but, So I can only imagine the vulnerability that comes with just you and a guitar. Oh, yeah. But I've never experienced it, and obviously it's different for everybody anyway.

19:45 Speaker 5: Right.

19:46 Speaker 4: Was it scary at all at first?

19:48 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

19:48 Speaker 4: Really?

19:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's scary every time.

19:50 Speaker 1: Is it?

19:50 Speaker 6: Yeah.

19:50 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. There's no question. You're like, oh, have I practiced these songs enough? Is it going to come off smoothly? Because if I screw up a riff in Able Blood, no one notices.

20:01 Speaker 4: Right.

20:02 Speaker 5: I don't even notice, really.

20:03 Speaker 4: Right.

20:04 Speaker 5: You screw up an acoustic... you're going to notice it.

20:10 Speaker 5: And it's okay. It's okay to screw up live. That's live music. There's something actually really good about it when you recover. But, oh yeah, getting up there by yourself You're like, this is my gig right now by myself. Yeah, it can be a little nerve-wracking pretty much every time.

20:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. We should play another track from, of course, the album is called... Oh, by the way, any significance to the title? It's a great title, Dust and Distance, but.

20:43 Speaker 5: So I had Jason Hartley down in Boston do the artwork.

20:46 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah. I should mention that, too. I love the cover.

20:49 Speaker 5: He always names his pieces when he... sends them back to you when you have them. Um, so he named that Dustin distance and I was like, you just named my album.

21:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yup. That's great. I love it. And I love the, I love the cover. Uh, what, what should we, uh, what should we play next?

21:10 Speaker 5: Let's do green light passing by.

21:12 Speaker 4: Green light passing by. Okay. Any story to this one? Yeah.

21:15 Speaker 5: I had a buddy of mine down in North Carolina. We're chit chatting online and he was trying to make a, um, animation for an able blood song and i don't even remember what the song was at the now yeah this was like a year or so ago yeah and he uh the animation wasn't coming out correctly like the hair color kept changing from scene to scene and like just things weren't working out right yeah and as we were chit-chatting i was strumming my guitar And I wrote the song while we were talking.

21:45 Speaker 4: Oh, no kidding.

21:46 Speaker 5: Yeah.

21:46 Speaker 1: Oh, wow.

21:47 Speaker 5: So it's about the animation that we couldn't really get correct.

21:50 Speaker 4: Oh, that's wild.

21:51 Speaker 5: All right.

21:52 Speaker 4: Well, very good. Well, let's give this a spin. All right. This is Green Light Passing by Adam Zane from the album Dust and Distance.

22:29 Speaker 7: She turned around With a green light passing by Didn't make a sound Couldn't see the blue inside her Closed my eyes Opened up to a different shade Refused by all around And she captured all the fires.

23:23 Speaker 2: Listen what they say.

23:27 Speaker 7: If you move, then you can't deny her.

23:30 Speaker 2: Try to make her stay.

23:33 Speaker 7: Water moves to destroy the liars.

24:06 Speaker 4: That is Greenlight Passing By from the album Dust in Distance. Adam Zane is here with us in studio. And another great song. We were talking off air. And, you know, of course, we've talked about Able Blood a bit on the show, too. The band, well, I wish I was at that show last night. That sounds like a killer show.

24:25 Speaker 5: It was fun.

24:27 Speaker 4: But, you know, I'm a big Able Blood fan, as you know. But we were talking about, so you actually recorded for this album an Able Blood song. I did.

24:36 Speaker 5: I did a cover of kept them past.

24:38 Speaker 4: Okay.

24:39 Speaker 5: Yeah. That was the first song on the last, uh, able blood song called, um, arrival of the waves.

24:45 Speaker 4: Okay.

24:45 Speaker 5: So originally the song was meant to be a segue in between two able blood songs. And it turned out to be the opening track. My drummer likes to add fuzz. Jimmy likes to have fuzz to everything.

24:57 Speaker 4: Yeah.

24:58 Speaker 5: And he was like, Oh, I'd love to hear this with the fuzz on. And we turned it. I put the fuzz on and I was like, Oh my God, this isn't, incredible yeah but so i want i brought it back i wanted to bring the song back to what i had originally intended it to be okay um and it i like it that way as well i like it both ways yeah yeah but yeah so it's the raw version.

25:20 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding all right well let's give this a spin i'm curious to hear this now uh kept them past and this is yeah because i remember when you guys came on and we played a You said this is the opening track?

25:33 Speaker 5: It is the opening track.

25:34 Speaker 4: And then it's the closing track on this album. By the way, have the guys given you feedback? I'm sure they've listened to the album. Oh, yeah, they like it. Have they given you feedback on this song specifically?

25:43 Speaker 5: I don't remember a specific conversation on that one.

25:46 Speaker 4: I was curious.

25:47 Speaker 5: All right.

25:48 Speaker 4: All right, let's give this a listen. This is Kept Them Past. The album is Dust and Distance, and this is Adam Zane.

26:10 Speaker 5: I haven't seen them for a while.

26:13 Speaker 7: It's like a night that never ends.

26:16 Speaker 6: Appreciate the finer things.

26:21 Speaker 5: But they all disappear. Found a clue once in a room.

26:43 Speaker 6: Couldn't leave the empty space Made a meal fit for a king Little water, little wine.

27:10 Speaker 5: Put your foot down on the gas.

27:13 Speaker 7: Tiny misstep on your toe.

27:17 Speaker 2: By the water for the king.

27:21 Speaker 5: People now forever past.

27:44 Speaker 4: Kept them past from the album dust and distance by Adam Zane.

27:48 Speaker 1: Yeah.

27:49 Speaker 4: So I'll have to go back and listen to the able blood version later too.

27:51 Speaker 5: Yeah.

27:52 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's really cool.

27:55 Speaker 7: Yeah.

27:55 Speaker 4: You, you were saying off air about how it's supposed to be sort of meditative.

27:59 Speaker 5: It was intentionally supposed to be just the one riff.

28:02 Speaker 4: Yeah.

28:03 Speaker 5: Over and over and over again. Just very meditative.

28:06 Speaker 4: Yeah.

28:07 Speaker 5: We added a little bit of parts, you know, when you jam the songs out, they kind of, they'll take on another life.

28:12 Speaker 2: Right.

28:13 Speaker 5: And it did. on the able blood version for sure. And I really liked that version a lot, but this one, I wanted to just bring it back to what it was originally. And it, like I said, it was supposed to be a connecting song between two able blood songs.

28:27 Speaker 4: Right.

28:28 Speaker 5: Or the intention was that originally.

28:30 Speaker 4: Right. But Hey, Did any of these songs surprise you when you recorded them? Like, did any of these come out differently than what you had originally envisioned?

28:37 Speaker 5: Honestly, still did.

28:38 Speaker 2: Really?

28:39 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't think, I didn't realize it was going to, it's got a powerful feel to it. And I think part of it's the way it was mixed and mastered, too. I think Ben is really good at bringing out the, it's like a droney sound on the lower strings on there, and he's able to pull that in, you know, so you can hear that really well.

29:00 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:00 Speaker 5: It gives it a really good, feeling.

29:04 Speaker 4: Oh, definitely. Definitely, yeah. Do you have a favorite of these to play live? Is there one that you particularly enjoy playing live?

29:10 Speaker 5: I couldn't ask. I really like playing live. It's just a simple blues song.

29:14 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:15 Speaker 5: But I can really get into it while I'm playing.

29:17 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:18 Speaker 5: So it's kind of like that 80 or that play 20% of your ability live.

29:23 Speaker 4: Right, right.

29:24 Speaker 5: Definitely in that 20% of my ability.

29:26 Speaker 4: Right, right.

29:27 Speaker 5: Because when it gets over that, you can't put as much into the performance.

29:30 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:31 Speaker 5: Kind of rule. So that one I can really have fun. I can really just kind of get right into it.

29:37 Speaker 4: Yeah.

29:37 Speaker 5: The other stuff I have to concentrate a little more. Right.

29:40 Speaker 4: Right now that makes sense are any of these particularly uh challenging to.

29:43 Speaker 5: Play live for um blue sky can be pretty challenging yeah um.

29:51 Speaker 4: Cause I'm listening to what you're doing on the guitar. It's pretty sophisticated on some of these.

29:54 Speaker 5: It's really, some of it's, it is, I think it's more right hand stuff.

29:58 Speaker 4: Okay.

29:58 Speaker 5: The chords are, are, are pretty easy.

30:02 Speaker 2: Yeah.

30:02 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, it, it, it, it's not as sophisticated as I might make it sound to be, but I think it's more for me, the difficulties aren't always what I'm playing is trying to remember the words. Okay. For the songs.

30:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

30:19 Speaker 5: Because I write them so fast.

30:20 Speaker 3: Yeah.

30:20 Speaker 5: I want to play them out right away, but I don't always have the lyrics memorized.

30:24 Speaker 4: Right, right. And I'm curious, too, about your vocals. Like, do you, like, who influences you vocally? Because as I'm listening to these, when I listen to these the first time and as I'm hearing them again today, I'm trying to, like, your vocal delivery, you remind me of somebody, but I can't place who it is.

30:40 Speaker 5: Okay.

30:40 Speaker 4: So I'm wondering.

30:43 Speaker 5: I don't have, you know, I've been compared to, like, bow house and those and like joy division and stuff like that yeah but i don't i like those bands but i don't they're not in my catalog of stuff that i listen to right right frequently yeah um so i don't know if i would call them influences yeah i have like a deeper voice yeah so maybe it comes out as you know but i really like like new wave music from the 80s and stuff like that so i guess maybe those vocalists from back.

31:14 Speaker 4: Then That makes sense, yeah.

31:16 Speaker 5: Gary Newman and stuff like that.

31:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. No, that makes sense. By the way, so the description... You know what? We were talking earlier about how do you describe your music, and I was looking at the description on Bandcamp, and I don't know if you wrote this or if someone helped you, but it says here. I really like this. This is why I wanted to read it. From the Backroads of New Hampshire is rooted in dark Americana, psych folk, and the slow intensity of doom blues.

31:49 Speaker 5: Yeah.

31:50 Speaker 4: I really like that. Doom blues is not a term I had heard before, but it fits.

31:55 Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know if I made it up. I'm sure somebody else has used it.

31:59 Speaker 1: Yeah.

31:59 Speaker 5: Oh, maybe not. I didn't really hear anybody else use it.

32:01 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:02 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I come from a doom metal background.

32:06 Speaker 2: Yeah.

32:07 Speaker 5: And so I feel like I influence both sounds coming from either direction.

32:13 Speaker 4: Yeah.

32:14 Speaker 5: So I feel like I can pull that doominess.

32:18 Speaker 7: Yeah.

32:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. Dark Americana, I think, really fits, too.

32:22 Speaker 5: Yeah.

32:23 Speaker 4: Definitely.

32:23 Speaker 5: Yeah.

32:26 Speaker 4: No, I like that.

32:28 Speaker 5: I have a hard time. actually labeling it. So I felt like trying to throw all that out there at the same time.

32:33 Speaker 4: Which I think is a good thing. I think it's good when you can't necessarily easily label something, you know, I think that's a, I think that's really good. Now, do you have a future plans to, to do more of this?

32:44 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Yeah. I've got another whole album written. I just got to get it recorded.

32:48 Speaker 4: Oh wow.

32:49 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:49 Speaker 4: No kidding.

32:50 Speaker 2: Yeah.

32:50 Speaker 4: Um, same kind of themes or same approach.

32:53 Speaker 5: Yeah.

32:53 Speaker 1: Yeah.

32:54 Speaker 5: Same approach. Um, these songs are probably a little more influenced by like, um, bands like 16 horsepower or Pine Hill Haynes and stuff like that. Um, so the sounds a little bit different than this album, but that should be happening anyway. You're always supposed to be, or you should be evolving.

33:12 Speaker 4: Right.

33:12 Speaker 2: Right.

33:13 Speaker 5: And I feel like I am. So definitely.

33:16 Speaker 4: And will it just be strictly you again on the new album?

33:19 Speaker 5: I'm not sure yet. Ah, not sure yet. Yeah. Um, I've been talking to people about doing collaborations. So yeah. maybe some of these will end up on the next album. Oh, some collaboration.

33:30 Speaker 4: Oh, very cool.

33:31 Speaker 5: We'll see.

33:31 Speaker 4: Intriguing.

33:32 Speaker 2: Yeah.

33:33 Speaker 4: Any, any kind of an ETA? Probably not.

33:35 Speaker 5: No, it's just getting my button here and sitting down and actually starting to record these. I'm going to try recording the whole album at home. Cause I feel like jars of water came out pretty good.

33:45 Speaker 4: It did. Yeah.

33:46 Speaker 5: Um, so I think I'm going to try these at home and, and see how they come out. If I'm not satisfied with them, I'm back over to loud sun studios and we're going to, Okay. Record that that way. So yeah.

33:58 Speaker 3: Yeah.

33:58 Speaker 5: Excellent. Excellent.

34:00 Speaker 4: Um, before we start to wrap up, so where's, where's the best place to go to keep up with everything that you're doing both as Adam Zane and, you know, as able blood as well.

34:09 Speaker 5: Able blood. We've got an Instagram, Facebook, and we pretty good about keeping up pretty good. Um, Adam Zane, I, I do on, uh, Instagram mostly.

34:19 Speaker 4: Okay.

34:20 Speaker 5: It shows up on my personal Instagram. um, Facebook page. I do have an Adam's day and Facebook page, but there's so many pages to try to keep up with. I know I got to focus on one. So I've been focused on, on the Instagram page.

34:34 Speaker 4: Yeah.

34:34 Speaker 5: So if you find Adam's day music on Instagram. Okay.

34:37 Speaker 1: Yeah.

34:37 Speaker 4: Okay. Fantastic. And what about upcoming... Are you playing anywhere this weekend? I mean, I know you just played last night with Ableblood at Shaskane.

34:45 Speaker 5: No, no, we don't have anything. I don't have anything coming up until November 6th. Oh, right.

34:51 Speaker 4: You should remind everybody about that show, though. That's a big show.

34:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that'll be at the spot November 6th. The show starts at 8 o'clock. I'm going on first.

34:59 Speaker 4: Okay.

35:00 Speaker 5: So if you want to see... Adam Zane play, be there at 8.

35:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

35:04 Speaker 5: But then Otto will be playing after me, and then Adam Grant, and then Brian Hinckley will be closing out the night.

35:09 Speaker 4: Wonderful.

35:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be great. Everybody, every person on this bill I am a fan of. So it's going to be get my set out of the way so I can sit down and relax and watch these guys.

35:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. No, that sounds like a great night. The spot, you know, as we talked about earlier, that's a great venue.

35:27 Speaker 1: It is.

35:27 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Adam, this has been wonderful. Thank you so much for coming.

35:31 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on.

35:32 Speaker 4: We'll, we'll definitely do it again. And, uh, what did you want to play to, uh, you told me, and I can't remember, uh, blue sky, blue sky. Uh, there it is. And what was the, um, was there a story behind this one?

35:46 Speaker 5: Um, this was kind of another, another story of, of, you know, transitioning from the relationship I had been into this relationship. And it's kind of promising, uh, my wife now that I'm here for, I'm here for good.

36:03 Speaker 4: I like it.

36:04 Speaker 5: Yeah.

36:04 Speaker 4: I like it. Very cool.

36:05 Speaker 1: All right.

36:06 Speaker 4: So we'll close out the segment with this. This is blue sky. The album is dust and distance. And the artist of course is Adam Zane and Adam again. Thank you so much.

36:14 Speaker 5: Thank you.

36:57 Speaker 2: Think I lost my hands. Wonder where I've been. In a mode, colorful places. You became my friend. Hiding in the end. Shovel in the shed. Pushing past future paces. Waiting for the tins.

37:42 Speaker 6: Guitar solo Fitting with these.

37:45 Speaker 2: Pins can't get back my sins it's too late can't go back live these lives again hold you now my dear leave you without fear of a day without me with you never to appear.

38:51 Speaker 1: Thank you.

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