Ashes of Autumn | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I like that a lot. The track is undone, the band is Ashes of Autumn, and I believe we have Melanie Flynn from Ashes of autom with us via WhatsApp all the way from Perth, Australia. Melanie, are you there, Matt?

0:13 Speaker 2: How are you good?

0:15 Speaker 1: How are you welcome to the program? Good to speak with you.

0:18 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much having me on.

0:20 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so. Uh tell us about the uh, well, I'm curious to know about that song, but also the album that it's from the darker side of now. I feel like, you know, I listened to it. I feel like these are you know, some pretty deeply personal songs, it would seem, and especially that song, I mean, that's that really uh that really speaks to me. But uh, but I want to know about that song and if it is in fact deeply personal to you, and and tell us more about the album as well.

0:52 Speaker 2: Well. Firstly, Matt like, thank you so much.

0:54 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's such a joy when somebody can hear the music and get something from it.

0:59 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, when this album is personal to me, it's they were written from a place of personal experience and stories and things that have gone through.

1:14 Speaker 2: So I'm just surely happy that it translates that you can relate to it.

1:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

1:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is uh?

1:22 Speaker 1: Tell me about the album title, the Darker Side of Now? Where does that come from? What does that mean?

1:28 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's Steph and I Stephan my music partner.

1:33 Speaker 3: We were talking about an appropriate title for this album.

1:40 Speaker 2: For me because all songs are a very sort of serious dark part of me and they still exist now, but they're the darker side of Now. If that makes sense?

1:52 Speaker 1: It does it does? Yeah, Yeah, it kind of speaks to the complexity of you know, the human experience and and and uh, you know, there's there's uh now. I mean, I guess how I would interpret it is, you know now is who you are right now. But no matter who you are, no matter what your mood, no matter what you're experiencing, you have different sides of you.

2:14 Speaker 3: And of course, and the thing is too, like if you go through a lot of things, whether it's trauma related or just any sort of experience that you know, you still hold with you. Those things will always live with you right exactly, but they don't.

2:28 Speaker 2: Define you exactly. Part of you. So that's why it's the darker side of who I am.

2:33 Speaker 1: Right now, That's something that comes up a lot on the show. We talk about this quite a bit with many of our guests. How music is I think it's the best therapy or or well, well, let me broaden that out a little bit. Being creative in any way, whether it's music, whether it's visual art, whether it's writing, whatever it is. When you take trauma, when you take any negative experience that's happened to you, and then you use that to create something, And obviously musicians do that with music, you know, creating things that not only help you work through and process whatever that trauma is or that negative experience.

3:09 Speaker 1: Not only does it help you, but it helps other people too, who can then take that art and enjoy it and maybe they get something from it, maybe it helps them process whatever they've been through or whatever they're going through presently. So yeah, yeah, absolutely.

3:27 Speaker 2: That's that's definitely the intention.

3:29 Speaker 3: Do you know, I think we write music for ourselves initially, you know, to get whatever we need out and to express whatever we need. But when you I think, create an album that is full of such in depth things, you really hope that someone can hear these songs and.

3:49 Speaker 2: Feel a bit of hope through your stories.

3:52 Speaker 1: Right. Right, does that happen where because the album I know has been out for a little while, Right, does it happen where you hear from people who will contact you and say, you know, this song or the album in its entirety really helped me, helped me get through something.

4:09 Speaker 2: Well, just to be fair, So the album isn't out yet.

4:12 Speaker 1: Oh, the album's not out yet. Okay.

4:15 Speaker 2: So we were planning on releasing it late last year.

4:19 Speaker 3: Oh, we held onto it. It's so close to our hearts, right, so we just held onto it. We wanted to release some singles see how they landed. Yeah, but it's definitely gonna be out later this year.

4:29 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, very good? Is that difficult something that I've you know, I'm a musician and I've been in some bands, but somehow I never found myself in this particular position where where you have something, you know, in this case, your album, that I'm sure, I'm sure there's a big part of you that you know because you had originally plan have it out last year the end of last year. I'm sure there's a big part of you that really wants to get this out, you know, and then there's other there's other things that go into you know, because you have to be strategic about everything if you want to succeed, right, So maybe you I assume that's part of why you've held it back, But I mean, is that frustrating though, because you want to get this out right, you want people to hear it.

5:11 Speaker 3: Yes, that it was such a journey creating this album, you know it was. It took two years to get to a place where we finally felt that this is ready to be to be heard.

5:24 Speaker 2: You know, life, life.

5:25 Speaker 3: Brings you some amazing things and sometimes you just have to pause on those things and work out what the best way forward is, right, right, So that's why we've we've chosen to pause for a second. And we've had some great support from you know, other people. I'll give a big shout out to our friend Steve Rivera in New York and he's just been a pivotal support of us.

5:49 Speaker 2: And so later this.

5:50 Speaker 3: Year, we will release this album and it's gonna be a lovely surprise and I can't wait to announce it in its full entirety.

5:55 Speaker 1: Oh, outstanding, outstanding. We'll have to have you back on the show at that at that point too.

5:58 Speaker 2: To do that, I'd love to.

6:01 Speaker 1: Oh, you got it. Absolutely, Yeah, I'm curious too. Also about people you I get the impression obviously you're in Australia, but you worked with quite a few people from other parts of the world. Is that correct?

6:15 Speaker 2: Yeah? And what a blessing that is?

6:16 Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, God bless the internet.

6:21 Speaker 3: Yes, honestly so. Steph my drummer, my music partner. He was connected with Tommy Denander in Sweden. So Tommy was involved in creating of the guitar parts that you hear on the album.

6:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. He was just an absolute gun.

6:40 Speaker 3: And then when it came down to mixing, we sort of explored different ideas, but we wanted to reach out further than just what we have in Australia, so we hit up Matt Doherty who was in Chicago, Okay, and he worked with one of my all time favorite bands, which is seven Dust.

6:55 Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're a seven Dust fan.

6:59 Speaker 2: Like the most Dustman ever.

7:01 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to circle back to that. Okay, good because I am too.

7:04 Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, Oh, Matt, You're my best friend. And yes, and Matt was.

7:13 Speaker 3: Matt was able to mix that album for us, and he did a stellar job on it. You know, he's he has a huge rap sheet right, So and then we had Elliott mulhan do the mastering on it and he was out in la as well.

7:25 Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, it's been.

7:26 Speaker 3: A it's been a magic input from all around.

7:29 Speaker 1: The world outstanding. Is that is that important to you or or is that just kind of how it worked out where those were the best people to do it? Like when you started this project, you and your partner in this stuff, did you did you feel like, yeah, we want to kind of you know, maybe we'll get some American input on part of this, and and maybe maybe we'll work with somebody from Sweden. I mean, what was that? Did you set out to do that in the beginning or or maybe in the beginning, did you think, well, you know, we're here, we are i mean, Perth, I'm sure there's an incredible music and I'm sure you're surrounded by a lot of great talent there.

8:04 Speaker 1: So did it becoming more of an international effort? Was that a surprise or did you intend that all along?

8:11 Speaker 3: Do you know it's so funny, I don't think it was like this intentional idea to do that. I think it was about sourcing the best people for that.

8:21 Speaker 2: You know, in the moment, do you know what I mean?

8:23 Speaker 3: And so I always feel that brunching out of our little tiny state and you know, this country all the way down at the other end of the world, I don't think they could ever serve you badly, do you know?

8:36 Speaker 2: So?

8:37 Speaker 3: I think for us it's definitely important to you know, try to build alliances and friendships or you know, work friendship with people outside of Australia.

8:47 Speaker 2: Because we're so isolated down here.

8:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

8:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just good to sort of expand it out and sort of like see where those those leads lead.

9:00 Speaker 1: What does the music scene like where you are in Perth?

9:04 Speaker 2: No, I mean we it's so interesting.

9:06 Speaker 3: I was just talking with a friend earlier about this, like, we have a little ecosystem down here in Perth and we have to because we are so isolated. Like I said, so it is an established little working community and the bands here are you know, the killer, They're so good. We have such a plethora of amazing musicians in this one little city. That is unfair that we're stuck here.

9:29 Speaker 1: Right. That's interesting. Is Perth is a pretty large city, I assume right, it may even be. Is it the largest city in Australia? No?

9:41 Speaker 3: Oh here No, I mean, like if you're talking like Space and you know Land Masks or like Wa where we live in Western Australia. Sure it's the biggest state in terms of population and you know density than.

9:53 Speaker 1: Nah, gotcha, gotcha?

9:55 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you probably want to be looking like to the east coast, like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane.

10:00 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, it occurs to me run.

10:03 Speaker 3: The West coast and oh okay, we're definitely the most isolated city.

10:08 Speaker 1: Oh okay then okay, interesting? Interesting? And what what what about radio? There? Are I have no idea what the radio situation is in Australia. Are there a lot of stations that support hard rock and metal and and and support bands like Ashes of Autumn?

10:24 Speaker 2: I wish I could say yes, but.

10:30 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you know, we live in this this tiny bubble down here in Australia that's very focused on commercial radio, and you know what's going on, you know, commercially. Don't get me wrong, there are some independent stations that support us and support the local communities, but we need a bigger we've been we need a bigger.

10:51 Speaker 1: Network, sure, sure, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And what about so what's the live situation? Are you able to get out? Do you do you play live? Do you play these songs live? Or what's happening there?

11:04 Speaker 2: Yeah?

11:04 Speaker 3: Look, I mean honestly, after COVID, Perth suffered a lot. So there was a lot of venues that closed down. And you know, we I'm sure like every other city has to battle with you know, cover bands and you know other things like that, and the original scene gets you know, suffers as well. Sure, so a lot of our original venues kind of closed down, like they just weren't able to function anymore. So yeah, the options to play here, while said they're they're.

11:33 Speaker 2: Still quite limited.

11:34 Speaker 3: Okay, So that kind of really poses a question and you know makes us drive forward to like put a tour together or you know, do an Australian tour or do a maybe even international or something like that.

11:47 Speaker 1: So right, right, so you're not I assume you're not playing out live currently or maybe you are, I don't know.

11:54 Speaker 2: Now we have a next show booked on the twenty seat of May.

11:57 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Yeah.

11:59 Speaker 3: So that's with a couple of the one of a couple of perths like amazing bands, like other sort of heavy heavy hitters.

12:07 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah we're doing like a three band line up.

12:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be Goody you should come down excellent?

12:17 Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I'll make the drive. I would I would like.

12:21 Speaker 2: To list I flee. I fleeted the state several times to see seven to us. You might as well come down and see us.

12:26 Speaker 1: No, no kidding, huh no kidding. Yeah, I would love to visit Australia. That is a place I've always wanted to go. For sure, do it? Now, how does that work as far as the band there, because obviously you have you know, uh, it's not going to be you know unless unless uh your guitar player is fine, And I mean, how does that work? Do you have a do you have a band put together that that for the live shows there that's obviously not necessarily everyone who played on the on the album or how does that work?

12:55 Speaker 1: Yeah?

12:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean we had to put that together. So Tommy was, you know, an integral part of that recording. But of course we needed live players, so we do have a full band. They're amazing musicians in their own right, and I just feel completely blessed that they're you know, want to be a part of the live shows and stuff.

13:15 Speaker 1: So excellent, excellent. So you have so how many times have you been to the States?

13:23 Speaker 2: I've been to the States now four or five times?

13:26 Speaker 1: Oh wow, no kidding, yeah, but.

13:29 Speaker 2: All for different reasons and sort of spent different times.

13:33 Speaker 3: They're seeing different bands and just you know, seeing the sites and going to different states and stuff. But more often than nots have been tests visit the Seven Dust crew and sort of you know, pitch up at their gigs.

13:43 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. That's so I assume you've met them and hung out with them.

13:48 Speaker 2: I have, do you know. I've been so blessed you know that they're wonderful people.

13:52 Speaker 3: And I was lucky enough to get pulled on stage in Albuquerque.

13:56 Speaker 2: Oh wow, one random show really and then again in Perth as well.

14:01 Speaker 1: So oh, very cool to do songs with them.

14:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they were just in the middle of their song, do you know.

14:09 Speaker 3: I think the first one in Albuquerque was Angel's son, and they just like, come on, come up here and have a sing.

14:16 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay. Meanwhile, I'd been to you know, three shows prior, so I had no voice, so I'm like, this is great. But one in Perth was yeah, Praise got up and sang that with them and it was great.

14:32 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. That's really cool. Was Angel's Son? Was that a huge hit in Australia because that was in America? Commercially? That is their biggest song as far as the radio.

14:44 Speaker 2: You know, I wish that Seven Dusts were bigger here. I mean they do have a following obviously.

14:48 Speaker 3: I mean they're worldwide known, right, but it's still it's still that that sort of difference between commercial and underground and whatnot, you know. But look, every every time they come here, they.

14:58 Speaker 2: Sell out shows. Yeah, they very much loved you.

15:02 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. That's awesome. Do you have a favorite seven song?

15:08 Speaker 3: No, that's like asking me what my favorite pet is, Like, No, I can't, I just I just cannot.

15:14 Speaker 2: They can't. They just keep evolving. Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. Yeah.

15:18 Speaker 1: I do have a favorite, a personal favorite of mine, but I can't. It's from Yeah, it's from early and their their catalog, but I can't. Actually, I can't say that album. It's from Oh what the hell? What's the name of the song is?

15:31 Speaker 2: He'll put You on this? I'm sorry?

15:33 Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah?

15:35 Speaker 2: Did I put you on the spot?

15:36 Speaker 1: I can't is it the uh? I can't remember now I'm drawing a blank. I haven't had enough caffeine. The song starts with the song title starts with a B. But I can't say it on American radio, at least not on a Saturday at least not on a Saturday morning. But you know, you know the name of a female dog? You know what? You know? The song?

15:52 Speaker 2: Sure right?

15:54 Speaker 1: Help me out what album is that? Because I'm drawing a blank on the name of the album. I haven't listened to it in forever.

15:59 Speaker 2: I want to say that that was off. I think that was off the self titled right.

16:04 Speaker 1: It's got to be it was because it was their first one on Roadrunner when when when they when they signed with Roadrunner Records, So yeah, it's got to be the self titled one. But yeah, that's my personal favorite. I love that song and and and fortunately every time I've seen them live, because that was never released as a single, at least not in America, but they always play it that live every time I've seen them, they have at least so yeah, that's my that's my personal favorite.

16:26 Speaker 2: Seen them play that live.

16:28 Speaker 1: Really.

16:29 Speaker 3: Oh, Now I have been too, like a few shows, now, yeah, I mean too lots and lots, but as many as I possibly can.

16:35 Speaker 2: But I've never seen them play it live.

16:36 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been very lucky. Then, yeah, because I think they've played it live. I've seen them a few times. I think every time they at least two of the three times they've played it live, and I'm always very very happy.

16:46 Speaker 2: Well, remind me to come to a seven Dust show with you, Matt.

16:49 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well let us let us know next time you're coming here to see them. We'll make it happen. That's amazing.

16:55 Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it. It's a yeah, it's a date.

16:56 Speaker 1: Let's all right, all right, you got it? You got it? So what else should we know about? So the album? Do you have an ETA at this point on when it's going to be out? I know you said this year, right.

17:09 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So there are some really exciting things going on in the Ashes camp at the moment that I can't give it all away just yet, but you know, just watch this space because there's some really really exciting stuff. So we're edging towards September, okay, September October for a release for the album.

17:30 Speaker 2: And you can keep up to date with all of that stuff on socials with us anyways.

17:33 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Oh where does the name come from? By the way, I didn't ask you that. I asked you about the name of the album, but I didn't ask you about the name of the band. Where does what does the meaning of Ashes of Autumn?

17:44 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I mean.

17:46 Speaker 3: I think when you're writing music, right, you write it in a way that he was right in the moment, it's good, but you know, it's seasonal changes in the terms of how you might proces it, you know, and the same with like with autumn and the season's change, and it's like regrowth and rebirth and all that sort of stuff, And that's kind of what music or songwriting does, right. It's like a you're putting it to bed and then hopefully somebody else can learn from it.

18:12 Speaker 2: Or get something from it.

18:13 Speaker 3: So it's like putting things to bed, but then having a regrowth afterward.

18:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, very cool. I like that. I like that very good. Oh by the way too, you've got some great music videos. I was, I was checking out the videos. I was thank you, especially curious to ask you about. Oh yeah, the video for when It Comes is really interesting? Can you can you tell us about this? And I encourage people, not right now, but after the show, I encourage people to go on YouTube and check it out. But this is really interesting. This this whole concept with it looks like it you know, it kind of looks like it's recorded with with old camcorders.

18:53 Speaker 1: And you got the guys who look like astronauts in the white suits. I mean, just can you tell us about this video?

19:00 Speaker 3: Oh? I would love to tell you the brown So Steph and I we like to think outside the box, right, and so we thought it would be an incredible idea to shoot all twelve videos for this album in one day.

19:22 Speaker 1: Oh really?

19:23 Speaker 2: So so we did.

19:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that took about six months of planning.

19:29 Speaker 2: It was a big, big effort.

19:31 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:32 Speaker 3: So Steph is like a machine when it comes to planning, because I'm not so. So we worked together in planning and designing sets and working out how it might look and sort of like the shots that we wanted.

19:45 Speaker 2: And you know how every song is gonna late look. But the special part of this was that each song was literally just a one take shot.

19:55 Speaker 3: Oh whatever you see, that's it. We're not going to go back and reshoot anything. Expectful like project for us, I guess.

20:04 Speaker 2: So when it comes. We shot this in a huge.

20:07 Speaker 3: Warehouse and we went in the night before and we set up what you see that, you know, the big blacks, and that's just kind of like builders.

20:18 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been to a construction site, a construction.

20:22 Speaker 3: Site right, oh yeah, And it's very heavy and it's just a tool of us. And it took about four or five hours to set up like this nine by nine you know, square thing like it.

20:35 Speaker 2: It was massive, it was and then we thought we did like that are in there, and we did videotape all that when it start the video.

20:52 Speaker 3: To be like my my thought about it was that it was going to be shot in a way that we looked a little bit unhinged.

21:01 Speaker 2: And so the song itself is about if you're.

21:08 Speaker 3: Depression or mental health challenges or anxiety, you can feel when it comes. And so it's all about like understanding when it comes and what happens in the moment. And so this having the guys dress up in the you know, the white outfits and stuff. They were kind of like resembling the bad critters that might come in when you know, these depressive things happen, or maybe doctors or something else, you know what I'm saying.

21:35 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it was just a moment of a little.

21:37 Speaker 3: Bits and incorporating it in a way that looks like we're being spied on, because that's kind of how you think people can relate to their feeling it anxious or have mental health challenges.

21:50 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of where that came from.

21:52 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, the pack up for that set was the worst pack up I've ever life.

22:00 Speaker 1: I can imagine it still haunts us to this Wow. But yeah, but so you were you were able to see you were able to successfully film all those videos in one day.

22:13 Speaker 3: Correct, So everybody from this album has been shot in a twenty four hour period. So we arrived at the first shoot at like six thirty in the morning. I picked up our camera guy.

22:31 Speaker 2: Filming at eight, and then we finished around two thirty. And that's twelve songs.

22:38 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.

22:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's a whole.

22:45 Speaker 3: It was a whole experience that I said to Steph, like, is this something that you would consider doing again?

22:51 Speaker 2: And the initial were like hell no. They were like yeah, like we just do.

22:55 Speaker 1: It better now, right, that's true. Now you know you certainly know how to do it now that you've done it. Yeah, that's that's amazing. Wow, good for you.

23:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it.

23:05 Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I don't know band Swage consider doing something like that, but I don't know if us. It just felt right and we loved the process. It was an amazing process of planning. Like I said, took about six months. But when you plan something for that long and then when it comes to fruition and you see the product at the end, it's like, oh there that was actually really good.

23:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's amazing, Wow, fantastic. Well, so I'm thinking about so two things. One is I'm thinking about you know, we did play the we we played undone to open the segment. I was thinking about closing the segment with uh, I do want to play another ashes of bottom track? I was saying about closing the segment with all that you Have because I think that's my personal favorite. Uh if that is ah, if you're amenable to that.

23:56 Speaker 2: Oh, no, I love that you have loved that.

23:57 Speaker 3: I mean that was the first single that we really okay, you know, and and I think that it just hit like well as the first release, you know, like it's not a bit of it's a.

24:08 Speaker 2: Bit patchy, it's a bit poppy, but it's still got a bit grit, you know.

24:13 Speaker 3: And I mean, would you have thought that I wrote this song one piano Matt Okay?

24:16 Speaker 1: No, I would not have thought that. That's interesting?

24:19 Speaker 3: I know, right, Yeah, when I first wrote it, it almost had like a very eighties vibe to it. But then I took it to the you know, we worked it out in the studio and it's like, oh, okay, this is what it's gonna.

24:29 Speaker 2: Sound right now. But yeah, I love I love if you want to close the show with that, I'm more than Stokes?

24:34 Speaker 1: Is that? H Is that always how you write on the piano for this album?

24:40 Speaker 2: I think, like I want to say, like, maybe it's on the piano.

24:45 Speaker 3: Okay, then maybe acoustic guitar okay, and then you know, take it to the guys and we kind of all take it to Stamp and then take it to Tommy or whatever and just send skeleton songs and this is what this is and this is the melody idea and give him a very detailed brief on what we are hearing.

25:04 Speaker 2: But yeah, this this song, I actually love this song.

25:07 Speaker 3: Like it's came back so well, Like I was like, dude, this is this is awesome, Like it's a vibe.

25:12 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. Yeah, at the end of our discussion, I'm going to play that I might I might sneak in a seven Dust song after that. It's for the hell of it. But Okay, Melanie, this has been wonderful. Tell us the other thing I want to make sure our listeners know before you go, where is the best place for people to go to keep up with everything that the band is doing? Everything odd Ashes of Autumn is up to Where where should they go online?

25:38 Speaker 3: Look, we're everywhere online Ashes of Autumn HQ and so just follow us on Facebook, you can go YouTube, where on TikTok. It's all you know, anywhere that you consume social media and or music, we're.

25:52 Speaker 1: There, outstanding and yeah, you've got a great website, which is which is very important.

25:58 Speaker 2: Thank you. That is all down a stiff He's amazing, good good.

26:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a website nerd, so I that's that's why, because a lot of a lot of artists have terrible websites. So you've got you've got a great You've got a great website, which is which is very cool.

26:12 Speaker 2: Thank you.

26:13 Speaker 1: Oh and I can confirm yes, that song that is on the self titled album, the seven best song we were talking about. I just looked it up.

26:19 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, okay, So I'm good. I'm good. My knowledge is still standing.

26:24 Speaker 1: Up absolutely absolutely all right, Melanie Flynn from Ashes of Autumn. We will let you go and we'll hit that track all that you have and yeah, we'll definitely have you back in the future. We want to when the album is ready to come out, please make sure you join us again and we can talk all about it and uh, you know, help introduce that to the American audience here and uh and and keep up the great work. Love the band, and it's been wonderful speaking with you today.

26:50 Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt. It's been such a pleasure. Thank you so much for having us on and for supporting.

26:54 Speaker 3: Us all the way from the US. And yeah, we we appreciate it so much.

26:59 Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you so much.

27:00 Speaker 1: All right, you got it, Melanie, thank you, We'll talk to you soon.

27:03 Speaker 2: Take care all right, we'd love that.

27:05 Speaker 3: Thank you.

27:05 Speaker 2: Take care of fighting all right, bye bye, all right.

27:07 Speaker 1: That is Melanie Flynn from the band Ashes of Autumn, and this is my favorite track from the band. I listen to everything that they have available, and I really like this a lot. This is called All that You Have