Ashes of Autumn | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I like that a lot. The track

0:02 Speaker 1: is undone, the band is Ashes of Autumn, and I

0:05 Speaker 1: believe we have Melanie Flynn from Ashes of autom with

0:08 Speaker 1: us via WhatsApp all the way from Perth, Australia. Melanie,

0:11 Speaker 1: are you there, Matt?

0:13 Speaker 2: How are you good?

0:15 Speaker 1: How are you welcome to the program? Good to speak

0:17 Speaker 1: with you.

0:18 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much having me on.

0:20 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so. Uh tell us about the uh, well,

0:25 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know about that song, but also the

0:28 Speaker 1: album that it's from the darker side of now. I

0:32 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I listened to it. I feel

0:34 Speaker 1: like these are you know, some pretty deeply personal songs,

0:37 Speaker 1: it would seem, and especially that song, I mean, that's

0:40 Speaker 1: that really uh that really speaks to me. But uh,

0:43 Speaker 1: but I want to know about that song and if

0:46 Speaker 1: it is in fact deeply personal to you, and and

0:48 Speaker 1: tell us more about the album as well.

0:52 Speaker 2: Well. Firstly, Matt like, thank you so much.

0:54 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's such a joy when somebody can

0:56 Speaker 3: hear the music and get something from it.

0:59 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, when this album is personal to me,

1:06 Speaker 4: it's they were written from a place of personal experience

1:11 Speaker 4: and stories and things that have gone through.

1:14 Speaker 2: So I'm just surely happy that it translates that you

1:16 Speaker 2: can relate to it.

1:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

1:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is uh?

1:22 Speaker 1: Tell me about the album title, the Darker Side of Now?

1:25 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? What does that mean?

1:28 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's Steph and I Stephan my music partner.

1:33 Speaker 3: We were talking about an appropriate title for this album.

1:40 Speaker 2: For me because all songs are a very sort of

1:44 Speaker 2: serious dark part of me and they still exist now,

1:49 Speaker 2: but they're the darker side of Now. If that makes sense?

1:52 Speaker 1: It does it does? Yeah, Yeah, it kind of speaks

1:56 Speaker 1: to the complexity of you know, the human experience and

2:00 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, there's there's uh now. I mean,

2:05 Speaker 1: I guess how I would interpret it is, you know

2:07 Speaker 1: now is who you are right now. But no matter

2:09 Speaker 1: who you are, no matter what your mood, no matter

2:11 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing, you have different sides of you.

2:14 Speaker 3: And of course, and the thing is too, like if

2:17 Speaker 3: you go through a lot of things, whether it's trauma

2:20 Speaker 3: related or just any sort of experience that you know,

2:23 Speaker 3: you still hold with you. Those things will always live

2:26 Speaker 3: with you right exactly, but they don't.

2:28 Speaker 2: Define you exactly. Part of you. So that's why it's

2:32 Speaker 2: the darker side of who I am.

2:33 Speaker 1: Right now, That's something that comes up a lot on

2:36 Speaker 1: the show. We talk about this quite a bit with

2:38 Speaker 1: many of our guests. How music is I think it's

2:41 Speaker 1: the best therapy or or well, well, let me broaden

2:45 Speaker 1: that out a little bit. Being creative in any way,

2:47 Speaker 1: whether it's music, whether it's visual art, whether it's writing,

2:52 Speaker 1: whatever it is. When you take trauma, when you take

2:55 Speaker 1: any negative experience that's happened to you, and then you

2:57 Speaker 1: use that to create something, And obviously musicians do that

3:01 Speaker 1: with music, you know, creating things that not only help

3:04 Speaker 1: you work through and process whatever that trauma is or

3:07 Speaker 1: that negative experience. Not only does it help you, but

3:11 Speaker 1: it helps other people too, who can then take that

3:14 Speaker 1: art and enjoy it and maybe they get something from it,

3:17 Speaker 1: maybe it helps them process whatever they've been through or

3:21 Speaker 1: whatever they're going through presently. So yeah, yeah, absolutely.

3:27 Speaker 2: That's that's definitely the intention.

3:29 Speaker 3: Do you know, I think we write music for ourselves initially,

3:36 Speaker 3: you know, to get whatever we need out and to

3:37 Speaker 3: express whatever we need. But when you I think, create

3:41 Speaker 3: an album that is full of such in depth things,

3:45 Speaker 3: you really hope that someone can hear these songs and.

3:49 Speaker 2: Feel a bit of hope through your stories.

3:52 Speaker 1: Right. Right, does that happen where because the album I

3:56 Speaker 1: know has been out for a little while, Right, does

3:58 Speaker 1: it happen where you hear from people who will contact

4:01 Speaker 1: you and say, you know, this song or the album

4:03 Speaker 1: in its entirety really helped me, helped me get through something.

4:09 Speaker 2: Well, just to be fair, So the album isn't out yet.

4:12 Speaker 1: Oh, the album's not out yet. Okay.

4:15 Speaker 2: So we were planning on releasing it late last year.

4:19 Speaker 3: Oh, we held onto it. It's so close to our hearts, right,

4:24 Speaker 3: so we just held onto it. We wanted to release

4:26 Speaker 3: some singles see how they landed. Yeah, but it's definitely

4:28 Speaker 3: gonna be out later this year.

4:29 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, very good? Is that difficult something that

4:34 Speaker 1: I've you know, I'm a musician and I've been in

4:36 Speaker 1: some bands, but somehow I never found myself in this

4:39 Speaker 1: particular position where where you have something, you know, in

4:42 Speaker 1: this case, your album, that I'm sure, I'm sure there's

4:46 Speaker 1: a big part of you that you know because you

4:48 Speaker 1: had originally plan have it out last year the end

4:50 Speaker 1: of last year. I'm sure there's a big part of

4:52 Speaker 1: you that really wants to get this out, you know,

4:54 Speaker 1: and then there's other there's other things that go into

4:57 Speaker 1: you know, because you have to be strategic about everything

5:00 Speaker 1: if you want to succeed, right, So maybe you I

5:03 Speaker 1: assume that's part of why you've held it back, But

5:05 Speaker 1: I mean, is that frustrating though, because you want to

5:08 Speaker 1: get this out right, you want people to hear it.

5:11 Speaker 3: Yes, that it was such a journey creating this album,

5:15 Speaker 3: you know it was. It took two years to get

5:17 Speaker 3: to a place where we finally felt that this is

5:20 Speaker 3: ready to be to be heard.

5:24 Speaker 2: You know, life, life.

5:25 Speaker 3: Brings you some amazing things and sometimes you just have

5:28 Speaker 3: to pause on those things and work out what the

5:30 Speaker 3: best way forward is, right, right, So that's why we've

5:34 Speaker 3: we've chosen to pause for a second. And we've had

5:37 Speaker 3: some great support from you know, other people. I'll give

5:42 Speaker 3: a big shout out to our friend Steve Rivera in

5:44 Speaker 3: New York and he's just been a pivotal support of us.

5:49 Speaker 2: And so later this.

5:50 Speaker 3: Year, we will release this album and it's gonna be

5:51 Speaker 3: a lovely surprise and I can't wait to announce it

5:54 Speaker 3: in its full entirety.

5:55 Speaker 1: Oh, outstanding, outstanding. We'll have to have you back on

5:57 Speaker 1: the show at that at that point too.

5:58 Speaker 2: To do that, I'd love to.

6:01 Speaker 1: Oh, you got it. Absolutely, Yeah, I'm curious too. Also

6:06 Speaker 1: about people you I get the impression obviously you're in Australia,

6:10 Speaker 1: but you worked with quite a few people from other

6:12 Speaker 1: parts of the world. Is that correct?

6:15 Speaker 2: Yeah? And what a blessing that is?

6:16 Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, God bless the internet.

6:21 Speaker 3: Yes, honestly so. Steph my drummer, my music partner. He

6:27 Speaker 3: was connected with Tommy Denander in Sweden. So Tommy was

6:32 Speaker 3: involved in creating of the guitar parts that you hear

6:35 Speaker 3: on the album.

6:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. He was just an absolute gun.

6:40 Speaker 3: And then when it came down to mixing, we sort

6:43 Speaker 3: of explored different ideas, but we wanted to reach out

6:46 Speaker 3: further than just what we have in Australia, so we

6:48 Speaker 3: hit up Matt Doherty who was in Chicago, Okay, and

6:52 Speaker 3: he worked with one of my all time favorite bands,

6:54 Speaker 3: which is seven Dust.

6:55 Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're a seven Dust fan.

6:59 Speaker 2: Like the most Dustman ever.

7:01 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to circle back to that. Okay,

7:03 Speaker 1: good because I am too.

7:04 Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, Oh, Matt, You're my best friend. And yes,

7:12 Speaker 2: and Matt was.

7:13 Speaker 3: Matt was able to mix that album for us, and

7:15 Speaker 3: he did a stellar job on it. You know, he's

7:17 Speaker 3: he has a huge rap sheet right, So and then

7:20 Speaker 3: we had Elliott mulhan do the mastering on it and

7:23 Speaker 3: he was out in la as well.

7:25 Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, it's been.

7:26 Speaker 3: A it's been a magic input from all around.

7:29 Speaker 1: The world outstanding. Is that is that important to you

7:34 Speaker 1: or or is that just kind of how it worked

7:36 Speaker 1: out where those were the best people to do it?

7:38 Speaker 1: Like when you started this project, you and your partner

7:41 Speaker 1: in this stuff, did you did you feel like, yeah,

7:44 Speaker 1: we want to kind of you know, maybe we'll get

7:46 Speaker 1: some American input on part of this, and and maybe

7:50 Speaker 1: maybe we'll work with somebody from Sweden. I mean, what

7:52 Speaker 1: was that? Did you set out to do that in

7:54 Speaker 1: the beginning or or maybe in the beginning, did you think, well,

7:56 Speaker 1: you know, we're here, we are i mean, Perth, I'm

7:58 Speaker 1: sure there's an incredible music and I'm sure you're surrounded

8:00 Speaker 1: by a lot of great talent there. So did it

8:05 Speaker 1: becoming more of an international effort? Was that a surprise

8:08 Speaker 1: or did you intend that all along?

8:11 Speaker 3: Do you know it's so funny, I don't think it

8:12 Speaker 3: was like this intentional idea to do that. I think

8:16 Speaker 3: it was about sourcing the best people for that.

8:21 Speaker 2: You know, in the moment, do you know what I mean?

8:23 Speaker 3: And so I always feel that brunching out of our

8:27 Speaker 3: little tiny state and you know, this country all the

8:30 Speaker 3: way down at the other end of the world, I

8:32 Speaker 3: don't think they could ever serve you badly, do you know?

8:36 Speaker 2: So?

8:37 Speaker 3: I think for us it's definitely important to you know,

8:41 Speaker 3: try to build alliances and friendships or you know, work

8:43 Speaker 3: friendship with people outside of Australia.

8:47 Speaker 2: Because we're so isolated down here.

8:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

8:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just good to sort of expand it out

8:56 Speaker 3: and sort of like see where those those leads lead.

9:00 Speaker 1: What does the music scene like where you are in Perth?

9:04 Speaker 2: No, I mean we it's so interesting.

9:06 Speaker 3: I was just talking with a friend earlier about this, like,

9:08 Speaker 3: we have a little ecosystem down here in Perth and

9:12 Speaker 3: we have to because we are so isolated. Like I said,

9:15 Speaker 3: so it is an established little working community and the

9:19 Speaker 3: bands here are you know, the killer, They're so good.

9:23 Speaker 3: We have such a plethora of amazing musicians in this

9:26 Speaker 3: one little city. That is unfair that we're stuck here.

9:29 Speaker 1: Right. That's interesting. Is Perth is a pretty large city,

9:35 Speaker 1: I assume right, it may even be. Is it the

9:38 Speaker 1: largest city in Australia? No?

9:41 Speaker 3: Oh here No, I mean, like if you're talking like

9:43 Speaker 3: Space and you know Land Masks or like Wa where

9:46 Speaker 3: we live in Western Australia. Sure it's the biggest state

9:50 Speaker 3: in terms of population and you know density than.

9:53 Speaker 1: Nah, gotcha, gotcha?

9:55 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you probably want to be looking like to

9:57 Speaker 3: the east coast, like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane.

10:00 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, it occurs to me run.

10:03 Speaker 3: The West coast and oh okay, we're definitely the most

10:06 Speaker 3: isolated city.

10:08 Speaker 1: Oh okay then okay, interesting? Interesting? And what what what

10:11 Speaker 1: about radio? There? Are I have no idea what the

10:14 Speaker 1: radio situation is in Australia. Are there a lot of

10:17 Speaker 1: stations that support hard rock and metal and and and

10:20 Speaker 1: support bands like Ashes of Autumn?

10:24 Speaker 2: I wish I could say yes, but.

10:30 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you know, we live in this this tiny bubble

10:34 Speaker 3: down here in Australia that's very focused on commercial radio,

10:37 Speaker 3: and you know what's going on, you know, commercially. Don't

10:41 Speaker 3: get me wrong, there are some independent stations that support

10:44 Speaker 3: us and support the local communities, but we need a

10:49 Speaker 3: bigger we've been we need a bigger.

10:51 Speaker 1: Network, sure, sure, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And what

10:54 Speaker 1: about so what's the live situation? Are you able to

10:57 Speaker 1: get out? Do you do you play live? Do you

10:59 Speaker 1: play these songs live? Or what's happening there?

11:04 Speaker 2: Yeah?

11:04 Speaker 3: Look, I mean honestly, after COVID, Perth suffered a lot.

11:09 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of venues that closed down.

11:11 Speaker 3: And you know, we I'm sure like every other city

11:14 Speaker 3: has to battle with you know, cover bands and you

11:17 Speaker 3: know other things like that, and the original scene gets

11:20 Speaker 3: you know, suffers as well. Sure, so a lot of

11:23 Speaker 3: our original venues kind of closed down, like they just

11:26 Speaker 3: weren't able to function anymore. So yeah, the options to

11:30 Speaker 3: play here, while said they're they're.

11:33 Speaker 2: Still quite limited.

11:34 Speaker 3: Okay, So that kind of really poses a question and

11:39 Speaker 3: you know makes us drive forward to like put a

11:41 Speaker 3: tour together or you know, do an Australian tour or

11:44 Speaker 3: do a maybe even international or something like that.

11:47 Speaker 1: So right, right, so you're not I assume you're not

11:50 Speaker 1: playing out live currently or maybe you are, I don't know.

11:54 Speaker 2: Now we have a next show booked on the twenty

11:56 Speaker 2: seat of May.

11:57 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Yeah.

11:59 Speaker 3: So that's with a couple of the one of a

12:03 Speaker 3: couple of perths like amazing bands, like other sort of

12:05 Speaker 3: heavy heavy hitters.

12:07 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah we're doing like a three band line up.

12:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be Goody you should come down excellent?

12:17 Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I'll make the drive. I would I

12:21 Speaker 1: would like.

12:21 Speaker 2: To list I flee. I fleeted the state several times

12:24 Speaker 2: to see seven to us. You might as well come

12:26 Speaker 2: down and see us.

12:26 Speaker 1: No, no kidding, huh no kidding. Yeah, I would love

12:29 Speaker 1: to visit Australia. That is a place I've always wanted

12:32 Speaker 1: to go. For sure, do it? Now, how does that

12:35 Speaker 1: work as far as the band there, because obviously you

12:38 Speaker 1: have you know, uh, it's not going to be you

12:42 Speaker 1: know unless unless uh your guitar player is fine, And

12:45 Speaker 1: I mean, how does that work? Do you have a

12:47 Speaker 1: do you have a band put together that that for

12:50 Speaker 1: the live shows there that's obviously not necessarily everyone who

12:53 Speaker 1: played on the on the album or how does that work? Yeah?

12:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean we had to put that together.

12:58 Speaker 3: So Tommy was, you know, an integral part of that recording.

13:03 Speaker 3: But of course we needed live players, so we do

13:05 Speaker 3: have a full band. They're amazing musicians in their own right,

13:09 Speaker 3: and I just feel completely blessed that they're you know,

13:13 Speaker 3: want to be a part of the live shows and stuff.

13:15 Speaker 1: So excellent, excellent. So you have so how many times

13:20 Speaker 1: have you been to the States?

13:23 Speaker 2: I've been to the States now four or five times?

13:26 Speaker 1: Oh wow, no kidding, yeah, but.

13:29 Speaker 2: All for different reasons and sort of spent different times.

13:33 Speaker 3: They're seeing different bands and just you know, seeing the

13:36 Speaker 3: sites and going to different states and stuff. But more

13:38 Speaker 3: often than nots have been tests visit the Seven Dust

13:40 Speaker 3: crew and sort of you know, pitch up at their gigs.

13:43 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. That's so I assume you've met

13:46 Speaker 1: them and hung out with them.

13:48 Speaker 2: I have, do you know. I've been so blessed you

13:50 Speaker 2: know that they're wonderful people.

13:52 Speaker 3: And I was lucky enough to get pulled on stage

13:55 Speaker 3: in Albuquerque.

13:56 Speaker 2: Oh wow, one random show really and then again in

14:00 Speaker 2: Perth as well.

14:01 Speaker 1: So oh, very cool to do songs with them.

14:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they were just in the middle of their song,

14:09 Speaker 2: do you know.

14:09 Speaker 3: I think the first one in Albuquerque was Angel's son,

14:13 Speaker 3: and they just like, come on, come up here and

14:16 Speaker 3: have a sing.

14:16 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay. Meanwhile, I'd been to

14:20 Speaker 2: you know, three shows prior, so I had no voice,

14:24 Speaker 2: so I'm like, this is great. But one in Perth

14:28 Speaker 2: was yeah, Praise got up and sang that with them

14:32 Speaker 2: and it was great.

14:32 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. That's really cool. Was Angel's Son?

14:35 Speaker 1: Was that a huge hit in Australia because that was

14:38 Speaker 1: in America? Commercially? That is their biggest song as far

14:41 Speaker 1: as the radio.

14:44 Speaker 2: You know, I wish that Seven Dusts were bigger here.

14:47 Speaker 2: I mean they do have a following obviously.

14:48 Speaker 3: I mean they're worldwide known, right, but it's still it's

14:51 Speaker 3: still that that sort of difference between commercial and underground

14:55 Speaker 3: and whatnot, you know. But look, every every time they

14:58 Speaker 3: come here, they.

14:58 Speaker 2: Sell out shows. Yeah, they very much loved you.

15:02 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. That's awesome. Do you have a favorite

15:05 Speaker 1: seven song?

15:08 Speaker 3: No, that's like asking me what my favorite pet is, Like, No,

15:13 Speaker 3: I can't, I just I just cannot.

15:14 Speaker 2: They can't. They just keep evolving. Yeah, and it's a

15:17 Speaker 2: beautiful thing. Yeah.

15:18 Speaker 1: I do have a favorite, a personal favorite of mine,

15:20 Speaker 1: but I can't. It's from Yeah, it's from early and

15:23 Speaker 1: their their catalog, but I can't. Actually, I can't say

15:26 Speaker 1: that album. It's from Oh what the hell? What's the

15:30 Speaker 1: name of the song is?

15:31 Speaker 2: He'll put You on this? I'm sorry?

15:33 Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah?

15:35 Speaker 2: Did I put you on the spot?

15:36 Speaker 1: I can't is it the uh? I can't remember now

15:39 Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank. I haven't had enough caffeine. The

15:42 Speaker 1: song starts with the song title starts with a B.

15:44 Speaker 1: But I can't say it on American radio, at least

15:46 Speaker 1: not on a Saturday at least not on a Saturday morning.

15:49 Speaker 1: But you know, you know the name of a female dog?

15:51 Speaker 1: You know what? You know? The song?

15:52 Speaker 2: Sure right?

15:54 Speaker 1: Help me out what album is that? Because I'm drawing

15:56 Speaker 1: a blank on the name of the album. I haven't

15:58 Speaker 1: listened to it in forever.

15:59 Speaker 2: I want to say that that was off. I think

16:02 Speaker 2: that was off the self titled right.

16:04 Speaker 1: It's got to be it was because it was their

16:05 Speaker 1: first one on Roadrunner when when when they when they

16:08 Speaker 1: signed with Roadrunner Records, So yeah, it's got to be

16:10 Speaker 1: the self titled one. But yeah, that's my personal favorite.

16:12 Speaker 1: I love that song and and and fortunately every time

16:15 Speaker 1: I've seen them live, because that was never released as

16:17 Speaker 1: a single, at least not in America, but they always

16:20 Speaker 1: play it that live every time I've seen them, they

16:22 Speaker 1: have at least so yeah, that's my that's my personal favorite.

16:26 Speaker 2: Seen them play that live.

16:28 Speaker 1: Really.

16:29 Speaker 3: Oh, Now I have been too, like a few shows, now, yeah,

16:32 Speaker 3: I mean too lots and lots, but as many as

16:34 Speaker 3: I possibly can.

16:35 Speaker 2: But I've never seen them play it live.

16:36 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been very lucky. Then, yeah, because I

16:38 Speaker 1: think they've played it live. I've seen them a few times.

16:40 Speaker 1: I think every time they at least two of the

16:42 Speaker 1: three times they've played it live, and I'm always very

16:45 Speaker 1: very happy.

16:46 Speaker 2: Well, remind me to come to a seven Dust show

16:48 Speaker 2: with you, Matt.

16:49 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well let us let us know next time

16:52 Speaker 1: you're coming here to see them. We'll make it happen.

16:54 Speaker 1: That's amazing.

16:55 Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it. It's a yeah, it's a date.

16:56 Speaker 1: Let's all right, all right, you got it? You got it?

16:59 Speaker 1: So what else should we know about? So the album?

17:03 Speaker 1: Do you have an ETA at this point on when

17:06 Speaker 1: it's going to be out? I know you said this year, right.

17:09 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So there are some really exciting things going

17:12 Speaker 3: on in the Ashes camp at the moment that I

17:14 Speaker 3: can't give it all away just yet, but you know,

17:20 Speaker 3: just watch this space because there's some really really exciting stuff.

17:24 Speaker 3: So we're edging towards September, okay, September October for a

17:28 Speaker 3: release for the album.

17:30 Speaker 2: And you can keep up to date with all of

17:31 Speaker 2: that stuff on socials with us anyways.

17:33 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Oh where does the name come from?

17:36 Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't ask you that. I asked

17:37 Speaker 1: you about the name of the album, but I didn't

17:38 Speaker 1: ask you about the name of the band. Where does

17:41 Speaker 1: what does the meaning of Ashes of Autumn?

17:44 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I mean.

17:46 Speaker 3: I think when you're writing music, right, you write it

17:50 Speaker 3: in a way that he was right in the moment,

17:52 Speaker 3: it's good, but you know, it's seasonal changes in the

17:55 Speaker 3: terms of how you might proces it, you know, and

17:58 Speaker 3: the same with like with autumn and the season's change,

18:01 Speaker 3: and it's like regrowth and rebirth and all that sort

18:03 Speaker 3: of stuff, And that's kind of what music or songwriting does, right.

18:07 Speaker 3: It's like a you're putting it to bed and then

18:11 Speaker 3: hopefully somebody else can learn from it.

18:12 Speaker 2: Or get something from it.

18:13 Speaker 3: So it's like putting things to bed, but then having

18:17 Speaker 3: a regrowth afterward.

18:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, very cool. I like that. I like

18:21 Speaker 1: that very good. Oh by the way too, you've got

18:24 Speaker 1: some great music videos. I was, I was checking out

18:26 Speaker 1: the videos. I was thank you, especially curious to ask

18:30 Speaker 1: you about. Oh yeah, the video for when It Comes

18:34 Speaker 1: is really interesting? Can you can you tell us about this?

18:38 Speaker 1: And I encourage people, not right now, but after the show,

18:42 Speaker 1: I encourage people to go on YouTube and check it out.

18:44 Speaker 1: But this is really interesting. This this whole concept with

18:48 Speaker 1: it looks like it you know, it kind of looks

18:50 Speaker 1: like it's recorded with with old camcorders. And you got

18:54 Speaker 1: the guys who look like astronauts in the white suits.

18:57 Speaker 1: I mean, just can you tell us about this video?

19:00 Speaker 3: Oh? I would love to tell you the brown So

19:05 Speaker 3: Steph and I we like to think outside the box, right,

19:10 Speaker 3: and so we thought it would be an incredible idea

19:16 Speaker 3: to shoot all twelve videos for this album in one day.

19:22 Speaker 1: Oh really?

19:23 Speaker 2: So so we did.

19:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that took about six months of planning.

19:29 Speaker 2: It was a big, big effort.

19:31 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:32 Speaker 3: So Steph is like a machine when it comes to planning,

19:36 Speaker 3: because I'm not so. So we worked together in planning

19:40 Speaker 3: and designing sets and working out how it might look

19:43 Speaker 3: and sort of like the shots that we wanted.

19:45 Speaker 2: And you know how every song is gonna late look.

19:48 Speaker 2: But the special part of this was that each song

19:51 Speaker 2: was literally just a one take shot.

19:55 Speaker 3: Oh whatever you see, that's it. We're not going to

19:57 Speaker 3: go back and reshoot anything. Expectful like project for us,

20:02 Speaker 3: I guess.

20:04 Speaker 2: So when it comes. We shot this in a huge.

20:07 Speaker 3: Warehouse and we went in the night before and we

20:12 Speaker 3: set up what you see that, you know, the big blacks,

20:15 Speaker 3: and that's just kind of like builders.

20:18 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been to a construction site,

20:21 Speaker 2: a construction.

20:22 Speaker 3: Site right, oh yeah, And it's very heavy and it's

20:25 Speaker 3: just a tool of us. And it took about four

20:28 Speaker 3: or five hours to set up like this nine by

20:31 Speaker 3: nine you know, square thing like it.

20:35 Speaker 2: It was massive, it was and then we thought we

20:42 Speaker 2: did like that are in there, and we did videotape

20:46 Speaker 2: all that when it start the video.

20:52 Speaker 3: To be like my my thought about it was that

20:56 Speaker 3: it was going to be shot in a way that

20:58 Speaker 3: we looked a little bit unhinged.

21:01 Speaker 2: And so the song itself is about if you're.

21:08 Speaker 3: Depression or mental health challenges or anxiety, you can feel

21:13 Speaker 3: when it comes. And so it's all about like understanding

21:16 Speaker 3: when it comes and what happens in the moment. And

21:19 Speaker 3: so this having the guys dress up in the you know,

21:23 Speaker 3: the white outfits and stuff. They were kind of like

21:25 Speaker 3: resembling the bad critters that might come in when you know,

21:30 Speaker 3: these depressive things happen, or maybe doctors or something else,

21:34 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

21:35 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it was just a moment of a little.

21:37 Speaker 3: Bits and incorporating it in a way that looks like

21:42 Speaker 3: we're being spied on, because that's kind of how you

21:44 Speaker 3: think people can relate to their feeling it anxious or

21:48 Speaker 3: have mental health challenges.

21:50 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of where that came from.

21:52 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, the pack up for that

21:55 Speaker 3: set was the worst pack up I've ever life.

22:00 Speaker 1: I can imagine it still haunts us to this Wow.

22:05 Speaker 1: But yeah, but so you were you were able to

22:08 Speaker 1: see you were able to successfully film all those videos

22:11 Speaker 1: in one day.

22:13 Speaker 3: Correct, So everybody from this album has been shot in

22:20 Speaker 3: a twenty four hour period. So we arrived at the

22:22 Speaker 3: first shoot at like six thirty in the morning. I

22:27 Speaker 3: picked up our camera guy.

22:31 Speaker 2: Filming at eight, and then we finished around two thirty.

22:37 Speaker 2: And that's twelve songs.

22:38 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.

22:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's a whole.

22:45 Speaker 3: It was a whole experience that I said to Steph, like,

22:49 Speaker 3: is this something that you would consider doing again?

22:51 Speaker 2: And the initial were like hell no. They were like yeah,

22:54 Speaker 2: like we just do.

22:55 Speaker 1: It better now, right, that's true. Now you know you

22:58 Speaker 1: certainly know how to do it now that you've done it. Yeah,

23:00 Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. Wow, good for you.

23:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it.

23:05 Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I don't know band Swage consider doing

23:10 Speaker 3: something like that, but I don't know if us. It

23:13 Speaker 3: just felt right and we loved the process. It was

23:16 Speaker 3: an amazing process of planning. Like I said, took about

23:18 Speaker 3: six months. But when you plan something for that long

23:22 Speaker 3: and then when it comes to fruition and you see

23:25 Speaker 3: the product at the end, it's like, oh there that

23:28 Speaker 3: was actually really good.

23:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's amazing, Wow, fantastic. Well, so I'm thinking

23:34 Speaker 1: about so two things. One is I'm thinking about you know,

23:37 Speaker 1: we did play the we we played undone to open

23:40 Speaker 1: the segment. I was thinking about closing the segment with uh,

23:43 Speaker 1: I do want to play another ashes of bottom track?

23:46 Speaker 1: I was saying about closing the segment with all that

23:48 Speaker 1: you Have because I think that's my personal favorite. Uh

23:52 Speaker 1: if that is ah, if you're amenable to that.

23:56 Speaker 2: Oh, no, I love that you have loved that.

23:57 Speaker 3: I mean that was the first single that we really okay,

24:01 Speaker 3: you know, and and I think that it just hit

24:05 Speaker 3: like well as the first release, you know, like it's

24:07 Speaker 3: not a bit of it's a.

24:08 Speaker 2: Bit patchy, it's a bit poppy, but it's still got

24:10 Speaker 2: a bit grit, you know.

24:13 Speaker 3: And I mean, would you have thought that I wrote

24:14 Speaker 3: this song one piano Matt Okay?

24:16 Speaker 1: No, I would not have thought that. That's interesting?

24:19 Speaker 3: I know, right, Yeah, when I first wrote it, it

24:21 Speaker 3: almost had like a very eighties vibe to it. But

24:25 Speaker 3: then I took it to the you know, we worked

24:27 Speaker 3: it out in the studio and it's like, oh, okay,

24:28 Speaker 3: this is what it's gonna.

24:29 Speaker 2: Sound right now. But yeah, I love I love if

24:31 Speaker 2: you want to close the show with that, I'm more

24:33 Speaker 2: than Stokes?

24:34 Speaker 1: Is that? H Is that always how you write on

24:36 Speaker 1: the piano for this album?

24:40 Speaker 2: I think, like I want to say, like, maybe it's

24:44 Speaker 2: on the piano.

24:45 Speaker 3: Okay, then maybe acoustic guitar okay, and then you know,

24:50 Speaker 3: take it to the guys and we kind of all

24:51 Speaker 3: take it to Stamp and then take it to Tommy

24:53 Speaker 3: or whatever and just send skeleton songs and this is

24:55 Speaker 3: what this is and this is the melody idea and

25:00 Speaker 3: give him a very detailed brief on what we are hearing.

25:04 Speaker 2: But yeah, this this song, I actually love this song.

25:07 Speaker 3: Like it's came back so well, Like I was like, dude,

25:10 Speaker 3: this is this is awesome, Like it's a vibe.

25:12 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. Yeah, at the end of our discussion,

25:15 Speaker 1: I'm going to play that I might I might sneak

25:17 Speaker 1: in a seven Dust song after that. It's for the

25:21 Speaker 1: hell of it. But Okay, Melanie, this has been wonderful.

25:24 Speaker 1: Tell us the other thing I want to make sure

25:26 Speaker 1: our listeners know before you go, where is the best

25:29 Speaker 1: place for people to go to keep up with everything

25:32 Speaker 1: that the band is doing? Everything odd Ashes of Autumn

25:35 Speaker 1: is up to Where where should they go online?

25:38 Speaker 3: Look, we're everywhere online Ashes of Autumn HQ and so

25:43 Speaker 3: just follow us on Facebook, you can go YouTube, where

25:47 Speaker 3: on TikTok. It's all you know, anywhere that you consume

25:50 Speaker 3: social media and or music, we're.

25:52 Speaker 1: There, outstanding and yeah, you've got a great website, which

25:55 Speaker 1: is which is very important.

25:58 Speaker 2: Thank you. That is all down a stiff He's amazing,

26:02 Speaker 2: good good.

26:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a website nerd, so I that's that's why,

26:05 Speaker 1: because a lot of a lot of artists have terrible websites.

26:07 Speaker 1: So you've got you've got a great You've got a

26:09 Speaker 1: great website, which is which is very cool.

26:12 Speaker 2: Thank you.

26:13 Speaker 1: Oh and I can confirm yes, that song that is

26:16 Speaker 1: on the self titled album, the seven best song we

26:18 Speaker 1: were talking about. I just looked it up.

26:19 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, okay, So I'm good. I'm good. My

26:23 Speaker 2: knowledge is still standing.

26:24 Speaker 1: Up absolutely absolutely all right, Melanie Flynn from Ashes of Autumn.

26:29 Speaker 1: We will let you go and we'll hit that track

26:31 Speaker 1: all that you have and yeah, we'll definitely have you

26:33 Speaker 1: back in the future. We want to when the album

26:35 Speaker 1: is ready to come out, please make sure you join

26:39 Speaker 1: us again and we can talk all about it and uh,

26:41 Speaker 1: you know, help introduce that to the American audience here

26:44 Speaker 1: and uh and and keep up the great work. Love

26:46 Speaker 1: the band, and it's been wonderful speaking with you today.

26:50 Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt. It's been such a pleasure. Thank you

26:52 Speaker 2: so much for having us on and for supporting.

26:54 Speaker 3: Us all the way from the US. And yeah, we

26:58 Speaker 3: we appreciate it so much.

26:59 Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you so much.

27:00 Speaker 1: All right, you got it, Melanie, thank you, We'll talk

27:02 Speaker 1: to you soon.

27:03 Speaker 2: Take care all right, we'd love that.

27:05 Speaker 3: Thank you.

27:05 Speaker 2: Take care of fighting all right, bye bye, all right.

27:07 Speaker 1: That is Melanie Flynn from the band Ashes of Autumn,

27:11 Speaker 1: and this is my favorite track from the band. I

27:13 Speaker 1: listen to everything that they have available, and I really

27:15 Speaker 1: like this a lot. This is called All that You

27:17 Speaker 1: Have