Charles Richardson | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:07 Speaker 1: WMNH rip the novels. When mattso wakes up in the morning,

0:13 Speaker 1: he gets into the shower and to the top of

0:15 Speaker 1: his lungs.

0:17 Speaker 2: He sings, man.

0:23 Speaker 3: Want because I M all right.

0:27 Speaker 4: I'm back to the radio show. Now all the best

0:31 Speaker 4: Chamry a.

0:33 Speaker 1: World Wrestling Federation for over fifty years.

0:36 Speaker 2: It's the revolutionary force, It's sports entertainment.

0:41 Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody. We have entered our number three, the

0:45 Speaker 4: new Barrow Trace of Matt Connorton unleashed and we are

0:49 Speaker 4: live from the studios of w m n H ninety

0:52 Speaker 4: five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Also

0:57 Speaker 4: streaming from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash

1:00 Speaker 4: live for all your live streaming options, social media links,

1:03 Speaker 4: contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday,

1:08 Speaker 4: April eighteen, twenty twenty six, and I am not alone.

1:12 Speaker 4: Let me get this up here. We've got Charles Richardson

1:15 Speaker 4: from The Charles Richardson Show on the line with us.

1:17 Speaker 1: Hello Charles, Hello, test one. Two.

1:20 Speaker 4: Oh you sound great, You sound great. How's the how's

1:23 Speaker 4: the we haven't really talked? How's the studio?

1:26 Speaker 3: There?

1:26 Speaker 4: Your your studio setup, which is it's relatively new, right,

1:30 Speaker 4: the new studio.

1:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's mostly new. I mean it's basically

1:33 Speaker 2: a garage converted to a laundry room slash half of

1:39 Speaker 2: its my.

1:40 Speaker 1: Studio area sort of. Yeah.

1:42 Speaker 2: And then Alyssa has her own little corner nook in

1:46 Speaker 2: there where she does arts and crafts.

1:48 Speaker 1: It's a it's it's kind of cramped, but she's okay

1:51 Speaker 1: with it.

1:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, And everything sounds great, sounds sounds really good. So so,

1:57 Speaker 4: of course, Charles, you are here with us because and

1:59 Speaker 4: what has become sort of an unofficial tradition before a

2:03 Speaker 4: lot of these big events, and of course this is

2:05 Speaker 4: the biggest event that WWE has all year, WrestleMania, and

2:09 Speaker 4: it is two nights night one Night two, today's Night

2:12 Speaker 4: one of course of WrestleMania forty two, emanating from Las Vegas,

2:17 Speaker 4: and so very excited to have with us, and you know,

2:20 Speaker 4: we'll talk all about it. I should tell you, though,

2:23 Speaker 4: I have to tell you upfront, and you probably know

2:25 Speaker 4: what I'm gonna say. I've not seen SmackDown yet. I

2:28 Speaker 4: don't mind spoilers, it's fine, but Jenny does mind spoilers.

2:33 Speaker 4: So Jenny had to leave because she does not want

2:36 Speaker 4: to know because we haven't watched SmackDown yet. She does

2:38 Speaker 4: not want to know what happened last night on SmackDown,

2:41 Speaker 4: telling to.

2:42 Speaker 1: Come back in. There's really not much.

2:44 Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of spoilers, okay it I mean

2:47 Speaker 2: unless she wants to know who won the Andre of

2:49 Speaker 2: the Giant Battle Royal, which I'm calling a gimmick royal

2:53 Speaker 2: for people that they couldn't fit into WrestleMania, which how in.

2:56 Speaker 1: The hell can you not do that? Yes, two nights

2:59 Speaker 1: for crying out loud. Come on.

3:00 Speaker 4: Well when I when I say Jenny left, I mean

3:02 Speaker 4: she she left, she went home. She's not even in

3:05 Speaker 4: the building, so I cannot call her back in. U

3:08 Speaker 4: but uh, okay, so she's not even listening. She is,

3:11 Speaker 4: she's in uh uh, she's in blackout. She's in communicado

3:15 Speaker 4: uha until the end of the program today.

3:17 Speaker 2: So yeah, no worries, Hey listen. Like I said, there

3:21 Speaker 2: wasn't there wasn't many spoilers. Royce Keys went ahead and

3:25 Speaker 2: run the Andre to Giant Battle Royal, which again there's

3:28 Speaker 2: no storyline form the in and the the brain trust

3:32 Speaker 2: in there and of course, brain trust is an oxymoron.

3:34 Speaker 2: Considering how things have gone recently, it's just been a

3:38 Speaker 2: downward spyle of for crying out loud and uh. But

3:41 Speaker 2: it's like the brain Trust didn't have anything creative except

3:44 Speaker 2: what a poor guy this guy was. He grew up rough,

3:47 Speaker 2: which if that's true, that's great, but what does that

3:49 Speaker 2: have to do with anybody in the storyline. He did

3:53 Speaker 2: go ahead and eliminate Tomatonga from the MFT, so there

3:57 Speaker 2: may be something going on there. I mean, hopefully some

4:00 Speaker 2: then can be created. But you know, Royce Keys, who

4:03 Speaker 2: used to be as Powerhouse Hobbs and aw has just

4:07 Speaker 2: not been really featured a lot except for the past

4:10 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but against a lot of the backstory

4:12 Speaker 2: life his personal story. So hopefully he does get a

4:16 Speaker 2: chance to go ahead and showcase what he can do.

4:19 Speaker 3: Well.

4:19 Speaker 4: I think it's good though, that I like that they're

4:23 Speaker 4: giving us a lot of his backstory. And I'll tell

4:25 Speaker 4: you why, because something that I have never really understood

4:30 Speaker 4: about professional wrestling is why they don't do more of

4:35 Speaker 4: that Because to me, and this is why I love that,

4:39 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like we live in an era

4:41 Speaker 4: where there's a lot more emphasis on character development than

4:43 Speaker 4: they used to be. But I've always felt that professional wrestlers,

4:46 Speaker 4: by their nature, because it is such a unique profession,

4:50 Speaker 4: that they tend to be very interesting people if you learn,

4:54 Speaker 4: like you know, you might have a wrestler who on television,

4:58 Speaker 4: they're their character and it's you know, they tend to

5:00 Speaker 4: they may be really one dimensional, or maybe they just

5:03 Speaker 4: aren't doing a lot with them, but then you see

5:05 Speaker 4: them or you listen to them in an interview in

5:07 Speaker 4: a shoot interview, so to speak, and you learn about

5:10 Speaker 4: them and you realize this is a very interesting person.

5:14 Speaker 4: So I think that they kind of miss a lot

5:16 Speaker 4: of opportunities with a lot of their performers by not

5:20 Speaker 4: sharing their backstory. So I'm glad that they're doing that

5:23 Speaker 4: with Royce Keys.

5:24 Speaker 2: A lot of it, though, I think is caught up,

5:27 Speaker 2: especially with the ones that they are developing or not developing,

5:30 Speaker 2: but they're putting on the air about their backstory in

5:34 Speaker 2: social media and of course in the Netflix series Unreal,

5:39 Speaker 2: so a lot of them, they go ahead, they focus

5:41 Speaker 2: on one or two wrestlers each episode, and they go

5:45 Speaker 2: ahead and give a backstory about that. Like I like

5:47 Speaker 2: Tiffany Stratton's backstory. Actually, yeah, yes, so she was interesting.

5:52 Speaker 2: She's willing to do whatever it takes. However, it takes

5:54 Speaker 2: very humble girl to go ahead and actually make it

5:57 Speaker 2: as far as she is. But that's what you got

5:59 Speaker 2: to do. It's like, you gotta pay your dues. A

6:01 Speaker 2: lot of people don't want to do that, and if

6:04 Speaker 2: they're not being and I'll be honest, and I don't

6:07 Speaker 2: think it's a lack of trying. But if WWE doesn't

6:11 Speaker 2: take the initiative to dive into these people's backstories, it

6:15 Speaker 2: may not be that great. You know, I know they did.

6:18 Speaker 2: They're going after Jacob Fatou's you know, jail history and

6:23 Speaker 2: his family and stuff like that.

6:24 Speaker 1: But also he's.

6:25 Speaker 2: Part of that Simoon dynasty, so it's like, of course

6:29 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting. It's interesting that he turned into

6:32 Speaker 2: the wrong way of the law but has now cleaned

6:34 Speaker 2: himself up, which is why he is where he is

6:37 Speaker 2: instead in the indies. Yeah, so it's it's so there

6:41 Speaker 2: is a lot of storytelling that's going on for some

6:45 Speaker 2: of these backstories. But again, it's very fascinating, and some

6:49 Speaker 2: of these people that are not being told stories it

6:52 Speaker 2: may not be as great to put on TV.

6:55 Speaker 1: Maybe that's their decision.

6:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that. It's funny when you say that too.

7:01 Speaker 4: It makes me think about one of our main eventters

7:04 Speaker 4: at this year's WrestleMania, Randy Orton, who who they You know,

7:08 Speaker 4: there's some things in his past, in his backstory, I

7:12 Speaker 4: guess he you know, he was in the military and

7:14 Speaker 4: he went a wall at one point, and I remember

7:17 Speaker 4: Mick Foley. They did actually make that part of a

7:19 Speaker 4: storyline once when McK foley brought it up years and

7:22 Speaker 4: years ago and he was feuding with Randy Orton. But

7:25 Speaker 4: other than that, they don't ever talk about that.

7:28 Speaker 2: It's probably something that he declared he probably didn't want

7:31 Speaker 2: to dive deep into, right right. It's it's listen, when

7:36 Speaker 2: you go a wall, that's not something if you're part

7:38 Speaker 2: of the military, that's not something you really want to

7:40 Speaker 2: dive into. Try like, listen, it's dark, let me go

7:44 Speaker 2: ahead and get out of here, and those whole voices

7:47 Speaker 2: in his head soundtrack.

7:49 Speaker 1: It might be true.

7:50 Speaker 2: There might be something that triggers in PTSD and stuff

7:52 Speaker 2: like that, so it's like, you know, you gotta be

7:54 Speaker 2: you gotta be careful and stuff like that, where you

7:56 Speaker 2: know you don't want to. Yeah, yeah, you want to

7:58 Speaker 2: dive into the story, that would be great, but it's like, hey, listen,

8:00 Speaker 2: you okay with this?

8:01 Speaker 1: Then we bring this.

8:02 Speaker 2: Whole thing out on doing some promos with making everything

8:06 Speaker 2: maybe not. That's why when you saw see him Punk

8:09 Speaker 2: and Roman going at it and Punk said I'm gonna

8:11 Speaker 2: bury you next to your father, you know that was

8:13 Speaker 2: done that that that was unscripted. It was talked about beforehand.

8:18 Speaker 2: You're not gonna go ahead and do that on a

8:20 Speaker 2: shoe because honestly, on a shoot you get but beat.

8:25 Speaker 2: But the person it's like, okay, you're gonna shoot at

8:28 Speaker 2: me like that, I'm just gonna I'm shooting you right now,

8:31 Speaker 2: and everything just goes Hey why so yeah, of course

8:33 Speaker 2: you want to go ahead and you know, talk behind

8:35 Speaker 2: the scenes and stuff like that, like can I bring

8:38 Speaker 2: this up?

8:38 Speaker 1: Can I bring that up?

8:39 Speaker 3: No?

8:39 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll leave off that. Some people like John Cena, dude,

8:43 Speaker 2: it's a promo. Whatever you want, bring up everything, bring

8:47 Speaker 2: my nicky status.

8:47 Speaker 1: I don't care.

8:49 Speaker 3: He was.

8:49 Speaker 1: He was good with that, right right.

8:51 Speaker 4: It reminds me of a and they talk about this

8:54 Speaker 4: in the Wrestling with Shadows. The Brett Hart documentary where uh,

8:59 Speaker 4: you know, they were they were bringing up you know,

9:01 Speaker 4: he and Shawn Michaels were bringing up things, and there

9:04 Speaker 4: was there may have been some miscommunication at one point

9:06 Speaker 4: about what was okay to talk about and what was not,

9:09 Speaker 4: Like like Brett Hart with his Sunny Day's comment, I'm

9:11 Speaker 4: sorry Sean Michael's with his Sunny Day's comment directed at Brett,

9:14 Speaker 4: you know, for example, which obviously caused Brett some problems

9:17 Speaker 4: at home. But but I've really enjoyed I'm curious your

9:22 Speaker 4: thoughts on those, because they've gotten mixed reviews. I think

9:25 Speaker 4: those promos between Roman Reigns and Sea I'm Punk have

9:29 Speaker 4: been outstanding. I really have enjoyed those quite a bit,

9:33 Speaker 4: and I much more enjoy those promos than I do.

9:37 Speaker 4: You know, the physicality when they start brawling with each other.

9:40 Speaker 4: I've always thought that stuff's kind of boring. Actually, you

9:42 Speaker 4: know a couple of guys brawling on the outside of

9:44 Speaker 4: the ring. But I love the promos.

9:47 Speaker 2: It gets boring when you see the two people brawling,

9:50 Speaker 2: like the Brock and Ob thing where you have like

9:52 Speaker 2: seventy five hundred people coming out to go ahead and

9:55 Speaker 2: they and thirty three thousand people couldn't hold one person.

9:58 Speaker 1: Down rightly, It's like, this is stupid. Just get it over,

10:03 Speaker 1: just just just cut the let's go to the next thing. Yeah,

10:06 Speaker 1: it's it does it gets boring because it's so predictable.

10:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But what do you think of those promos?

10:11 Speaker 4: So you like the promos, I assume between Punk and Roman.

10:15 Speaker 1: Listen see him.

10:16 Speaker 2: Punk has always been a talko, always been a pipe bomber,

10:19 Speaker 2: and anytime he does a promo, it's gonna be magical,

10:22 Speaker 2: it's going to be gold.

10:23 Speaker 3: Yeah.

10:24 Speaker 2: Roman has recently was since he's become the tribal chief,

10:27 Speaker 2: has recently been doing the promos pretty well. You know,

10:32 Speaker 2: he's come a long ways since suffering suck attached. Okay,

10:34 Speaker 2: well yeah, but he's come a long way. So yes,

10:38 Speaker 2: his his his his promos and his character have always

10:43 Speaker 2: been spot on. And I like that they took a

10:47 Speaker 2: jab at old I like that, and I like how

10:50 Speaker 2: Sam Punk is persevered in that. Yes, because an old

10:53 Speaker 2: man dropping a tribal chief through an announced table says something, right,

10:59 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah these did and some physicality is okay.

11:02 Speaker 2: Obviously when they come in with the security it's stupid.

11:05 Speaker 2: But but yeah, uh but these promos have been spot

11:08 Speaker 2: on gold. I loved every especially when seampunk is ran

11:11 Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee. That's another that that listen. I like Pat,

11:16 Speaker 2: I like his show, I like his commentary. I was

11:19 Speaker 2: kind of derailed on the show that I'm on the

11:24 Speaker 2: Josh Odiac podcast by him and his brother like saying, well,

11:28 Speaker 2: he's just he's just a a a face announcer, and

11:32 Speaker 2: you can't have two face announcers.

11:34 Speaker 1: And it just gets it's it's very.

11:36 Speaker 2: Stale, and I kind of listened to what Corey Graves,

11:39 Speaker 2: you know, Corey Graves and Wade Barrett, you know, they're there.

11:42 Speaker 2: They're the heel announcers.

11:44 Speaker 4: Really though, well sort of they do that. They're they're

11:47 Speaker 4: tweeener announcers, which is really I mean, you know, when

11:50 Speaker 4: was the last time we had an actual heel announcer,

11:52 Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

11:53 Speaker 2: But they portray it like they'll they'll go ahead and

11:56 Speaker 2: disagree with testatory or sure, sure, and that's what it

12:00 Speaker 2: was if mcfeel was just always agreeing with Cole because

12:03 Speaker 2: you know they were bud buds.

12:04 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, total babyface.

12:06 Speaker 2: Yes, it did get stale to the point where it's like, yeah,

12:09 Speaker 2: I'm listening to Corey Graves kind of you know, rattled

12:12 Speaker 2: the cage of Michael Cole and Wade Barrett kind of

12:14 Speaker 2: like you know.

12:14 Speaker 1: Giving Joe test satory of the business.

12:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes it more interesting actually when you

12:19 Speaker 2: think about it. But yeah, McAfee, I think is a

12:22 Speaker 2: good guy and him turned to heel. I think this

12:24 Speaker 2: is probably one of these things that listens as a

12:27 Speaker 2: as a huge fan and finally getting the shot at,

12:29 Speaker 2: you know, living your dream.

12:30 Speaker 1: I think it's always been a thing for him to

12:32 Speaker 1: be a heel. I don't like his heel though.

12:34 Speaker 2: I think it is it's coming across kind of kind

12:39 Speaker 2: of boring, to be honest with you. I do like

12:42 Speaker 2: he has some truth that comes out, which Seampunk also

12:45 Speaker 2: admits is that tk O prices are just outrageous. So

12:51 Speaker 2: he's not really a full heel of be honest with you.

12:53 Speaker 2: He's you know, helping Randy. He's but he's also speaking truth.

12:57 Speaker 2: So when you're a heel, you kind of stretched the

13:01 Speaker 2: truth to your benefit. But this truth, you can't stretch

13:05 Speaker 2: to anybody's benefit. This is just this is just truth. Truth. Well,

13:09 Speaker 2: Randy and save the business. I don't I think that's

13:10 Speaker 2: the far fetched thing. It's like, I think, don't don't

13:13 Speaker 2: think the business needs to be.

13:14 Speaker 1: Saved, right.

13:15 Speaker 2: I think it's it's fine where it I think it's

13:18 Speaker 2: it's great where it is. Yeah, he needs to handle

13:22 Speaker 2: their their business better to make it more affordable for families,

13:25 Speaker 2: and that's where they get out of there. They're getting price,

13:29 Speaker 2: they're pricing out everybody. That's the that's the main thing.

13:31 Speaker 2: But I think other than that, I think McAfee's heel

13:34 Speaker 2: characters is kind of dulled, to be honest with you.

13:36 Speaker 4: So here's what I think. I like him as a heel.

13:39 Speaker 4: I think though the problem is so the last promo

13:44 Speaker 4: that he cut, when he you know, came out and

13:47 Speaker 4: did his thing without without Randy being there, I just thought,

13:53 Speaker 4: like when he shows up and he's backstage and he's

13:57 Speaker 4: interacting with Nick Alldis, for example, wait was it? Yeah?

14:01 Speaker 2: That was it was eldest Yeah, which, by the way,

14:04 Speaker 2: I found funny. He's like, well, Nick, mister Adam Pierce

14:08 Speaker 2: or whatever that oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what did he

14:12 Speaker 2: yeah whatever it was.

14:14 Speaker 1: But he's like, you know, I'm not going to sign this.

14:16 Speaker 1: I like to read through my contract. I'll do it later.

14:18 Speaker 2: And then like two minutes afterwards, when Randy's about to

14:21 Speaker 2: go to the station signs the contract.

14:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that was kind of dumb. Well I did

14:25 Speaker 1: you have to say that?

14:26 Speaker 4: But anyway, but I liked I liked his interaction backstage

14:30 Speaker 4: with all. I like him. I like him as a heel.

14:33 Speaker 4: I think he's a good heel. I think the problem

14:35 Speaker 4: is he you know, he's not getting heat well because

14:39 Speaker 4: it's not making it. This is not making a lot

14:41 Speaker 4: of sense.

14:42 Speaker 2: And right, that's what I'm saying, Like it's a really

14:45 Speaker 2: bad job at the heel.

14:47 Speaker 4: I think he could be a great heel. Yeah, I

14:49 Speaker 4: do too.

14:50 Speaker 2: I think creatively, they got to come up with something better. Yeah, over,

14:56 Speaker 2: it's too late now, I mean, unless it is Brandyworton

14:59 Speaker 2: loses and then he's done with WWE.

15:02 Speaker 1: Which okay, about that, there is a.

15:05 Speaker 2: Mild rumor saying that Orton is is playing on an injury.

15:09 Speaker 1: Okay, you have to write the script, go ahead about that.

15:12 Speaker 4: Because this came up on Tough Bumps, you know, the

15:15 Speaker 4: podcast that that I do with Eric Pilcher and Austin Hicks,

15:19 Speaker 4: because they were I think it was Eric who was saying,

15:22 Speaker 4: well they they kind of already they kind of already

15:25 Speaker 4: gave away the ending. Obviously, Orton has to win if

15:27 Speaker 4: McAfee is saying he's done with wrestling forever if Orton loses.

15:31 Speaker 4: But my counter argument to that is, no, it doesn't matter.

15:34 Speaker 4: Or McAfee's a heel and heels lie, it doesn't matter

15:38 Speaker 4: that he said if Orton loses, he's done forever. It

15:40 Speaker 4: doesn't that. That's that's irrelevant. Now if he were a babyface,

15:44 Speaker 4: then then it would hold more weight. But McAfee can

15:46 Speaker 4: say whatever he wants.

15:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's a heel. I don't know a

15:51 Speaker 2: lot of heels, a lot of everybody. When they say

15:54 Speaker 2: something and it goes against them, it usually holds true.

15:59 Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't really see that. There was

16:01 Speaker 2: one time somebody said they're leaving the business and it happened,

16:05 Speaker 2: and they ever came back unless for a while.

16:08 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but but long term all I mean, first,

16:11 Speaker 4: I mean, how many how many retirement matches have we

16:13 Speaker 4: seen that turned out not to be retirement matches?

16:16 Speaker 2: Well granted, yes, but those are retirement matches. Those are

16:20 Speaker 2: not like I quit or or I'm done with if

16:23 Speaker 2: I lose, Like, yeah, that's retirement matches more like ceremonial matches.

16:29 Speaker 1: You're done, regardless of you want to lose. This is

16:31 Speaker 1: a stipulation.

16:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, but even a stipulation, I mean even even if

16:37 Speaker 4: it's even if it's a stipulation, it's it often like this.

16:42 Speaker 2: You think Johnson, when John Ceen is wrestling his retirement

16:45 Speaker 2: match against Gunther, If he won, do you think we

16:47 Speaker 2: see him next week on Raw?

16:49 Speaker 1: No, he's done this retirement match.

16:52 Speaker 4: That's different. That's different though the Sina will never come back.

16:55 Speaker 4: I mean he's he's done.

16:56 Speaker 2: No, he's hosting WrestleMania, but he's not gonna wrestle I

16:59 Speaker 2: don't think.

17:00 Speaker 4: No, he's not.

17:02 Speaker 1: He may give somebody an if you or something, but

17:04 Speaker 1: that's about it.

17:05 Speaker 4: I think he's right, right, I think he's definitely done.

17:07 Speaker 4: And by the way, that phenomenon, I mean that transcends

17:09 Speaker 4: professional wrestling. I mean, how many how many bands do

17:12 Speaker 4: a farewell tour, a retirement tour and then they you know,

17:15 Speaker 4: they come.

17:15 Speaker 1: Back because he run out of money? What's that? Would

17:19 Speaker 1: they come back because they run out of money?

17:21 Speaker 3: Right?

17:21 Speaker 4: Exactly? Exactly. So yeah, so I don't put much stock

17:26 Speaker 4: in what McAfee said, But but but it has really

17:30 Speaker 4: kind of messed up that storyline by the way, So

17:32 Speaker 4: this is something too where I think Eric and Austin

17:34 Speaker 4: disagreed with me, but I said, or at least Eric did,

17:38 Speaker 4: I said, I really would have liked to have seen

17:41 Speaker 4: at least one face to face promo between Randy Orton

17:46 Speaker 4: and Cody Rhodes, similar to the promos that we've seen

17:50 Speaker 4: consistently between Campunk and Roman Reigns. I think a face

17:53 Speaker 4: to face between Orton and uh and and Cody would

17:56 Speaker 4: would be really interesting and would do so much more

18:00 Speaker 4: to build that story. But we never got it and

18:04 Speaker 4: it's too late now. I know it didn't happen last night.

18:06 Speaker 4: I did kind of take a peek at spoilers, I know,

18:09 Speaker 4: because I don't mind. I know it didn't happen last night,

18:11 Speaker 4: So I mean, why don't do that?

18:14 Speaker 2: But let me ask you, Matt, what what would you

18:16 Speaker 2: expect have somebody who basically turned on a friend, who

18:21 Speaker 2: basically went ahead and beat them down so bad. What

18:24 Speaker 2: would if if that face to face were to happen.

18:27 Speaker 2: What would your outcome be like if you were doing

18:29 Speaker 2: if you were in creative and you're like, okay, Randy

18:32 Speaker 2: and Cody, you're gonna come out, You're gonna do a

18:34 Speaker 2: one on one face to face contract saying whatever, what

18:38 Speaker 2: would the outcome be? Like, it can't be good. You

18:41 Speaker 2: basically betrayed a friend. The friend fields betrayed wants to

18:45 Speaker 2: beat your behind. The other one is basically evil and

18:49 Speaker 2: listening the voices that well, they're both listening to the

18:51 Speaker 2: voices apparently now so I see your point interesting, But

18:58 Speaker 2: I think the way they went about it, it's just

19:01 Speaker 2: it's just fine with me because I wouldn't want to

19:03 Speaker 2: see face to face to my friendunless.

19:05 Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and go to battle, right.

19:07 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's really you're you're basically egging them

19:12 Speaker 2: on to fight. Nothing really to say, because it's like,

19:16 Speaker 2: you know, there's the why. Well, the why has already

19:18 Speaker 2: been done. Well, Cody gave me permission to go ahead

19:22 Speaker 2: and be Randy Orton, and he took it a step further.

19:25 Speaker 2: I don't need permission from Cody to be Randy Orton.

19:28 Speaker 2: This is on the Friday, by the way, I don't

19:31 Speaker 2: need permission for that. And then it's like, you know,

19:34 Speaker 2: he gets off stage, Cody. It comes out later in

19:36 Speaker 2: the show, which by the way, see him punk also

19:40 Speaker 2: joins him, So it's like, and I love that, and

19:43 Speaker 2: you'll see this later Towards the end of the show,

19:45 Speaker 2: Cody's like saying, uh, and feel free to hit the

19:48 Speaker 2: dump button on this one. Cody goes ahead and says, listen,

19:52 Speaker 2: if we shook hands and hugged right now, you're not

19:55 Speaker 2: going to turn on me and kick me in the

19:59 Speaker 2: like everybody us, right, It's kind of smarked. It's like,

20:03 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that deserve to be kicked,

20:05 Speaker 2: you're not one of them.

20:06 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I kind.

20:09 Speaker 1: Of found that funny. And then the crowd found it

20:11 Speaker 1: funny too.

20:12 Speaker 3: Yeah.

20:13 Speaker 2: Actually the crowd said, yes, I think they're turning on

20:15 Speaker 2: Cody'd be honest with you.

20:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, they see it. Well, they're they're their loyalties are split.

20:20 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the other challenge with Randy Orton as

20:23 Speaker 4: a heel. And I knew this was going to happen.

20:26 Speaker 4: I don't know if they did. Maybe they should have,

20:28 Speaker 4: but you know, Randy Orton at forty five years old,

20:33 Speaker 4: at this point in his career, they really don't want

20:35 Speaker 4: to boo him, you know, I mean, no matter what

20:38 Speaker 4: he does, no matter how evil he is, they don't

20:41 Speaker 4: want to boo him. It reminds me of when the

20:44 Speaker 4: very last time that yeah, well, oh yeah, that's a

20:48 Speaker 4: great example. But also going back significantly further the last time,

20:55 Speaker 4: and this does go back quite a way, but the

20:57 Speaker 4: last time that the Undertaker was ever a heel, you know,

21:01 Speaker 4: and it was he was still doing his American badass

21:03 Speaker 4: immick and stuff at that point. But the last time

21:05 Speaker 4: he was a heel. I just remember at that time,

21:08 Speaker 4: and again this was years ago, this was like maybe

21:10 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago. I remember thinking, ah, did they really

21:12 Speaker 4: want to boo Undertaker at this point in his career

21:14 Speaker 4: and he really did kind of struggle to get over

21:16 Speaker 4: as a heel at that point a little bit. I

21:18 Speaker 4: thought they didn't want to boo him. So, you know,

21:20 Speaker 4: there's a segment, there's a large segment of the fan base,

21:22 Speaker 4: maybe most of the fan base, that does not want

21:25 Speaker 4: to boo Randy Orton. And I think what will be

21:27 Speaker 4: particularly interesting is the crowd reaction to because they're going tonight,

21:35 Speaker 4: they're the main event tonight, and I won Randy Orton

21:38 Speaker 4: versus Cody Rhodes's I think it's going to be a

21:40 Speaker 4: very split crowd and it might even be a pro

21:43 Speaker 4: Randy orton crowd at this point.

21:45 Speaker 2: I think so, I think it is. I think also

21:48 Speaker 2: in the point that you're making that he's having trouble

21:50 Speaker 2: getting over, I think that's why Pat was coming in

21:53 Speaker 2: to go ahead and get more heat on Randy.

21:55 Speaker 1: But it just hasn't happened. It hasn't worked right.

21:57 Speaker 4: Well, whatever heat there is, it's on Pat's not on Randy.

22:00 Speaker 4: It doesn't transfer.

22:02 Speaker 1: Right, right.

22:03 Speaker 2: So, uh yeah, when when I'm watching tonight and I'm

22:06 Speaker 2: watching the wrestleman, I'm probably gonna hear, you know, when

22:09 Speaker 2: they go back and forth with punches, which they'll eventually do.

22:12 Speaker 1: I'm sure.

22:12 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's gonna be a very very mixed reaction

22:15 Speaker 2: on both ends. Yeah, but I think it's going to

22:19 Speaker 2: be more booze on Cody because I think I think

22:23 Speaker 2: we're done with Cody. I think we're done with WW

22:28 Speaker 2: trying to force Cody down because I think it was

22:30 Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible decision to have Drew drop the belt.

22:36 Speaker 2: Really you think so, oh it was horrible because I

22:41 Speaker 2: think Drew number one, you basically are again dump button,

22:48 Speaker 2: You're basically screwing Drew. He's been he's been doing what

22:53 Speaker 2: he needs to do. He's been a good employee. Oh yeah,

22:57 Speaker 2: and then you're basically screwing him possible main event at WrestleMania.

23:01 Speaker 2: Last time he made an event at WrestleMania was when nobody.

23:03 Speaker 1: Was in attendance, right, I mean, it's it's it's it

23:07 Speaker 1: was horrible.

23:08 Speaker 4: He's still got a high he's got a high profile

23:10 Speaker 4: match though against Jacob Pa too.

23:11 Speaker 2: I mean, he's it doesn't matter though, that's listen, at

23:15 Speaker 2: the very least having a triple threat with Jacob. I

23:17 Speaker 2: think Jacob has earned the right to at least get in,

23:20 Speaker 2: get in some type of title.

23:22 Speaker 1: Maybe not world title, but or ww title, but still.

23:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, like he'll get there.

23:26 Speaker 1: The Drew McIntyre thing, I think it was just a

23:30 Speaker 1: horrible idea.

23:30 Speaker 2: It's like, why are we giving it back to somebody

23:33 Speaker 2: that's gonna go We know he's going to shoot movies.

23:35 Speaker 2: We know he's not gonna win. And if he if

23:38 Speaker 2: if Randy does win and there is a legitimate injury

23:41 Speaker 2: going on, they're gonna play him like they do Jade.

23:44 Speaker 2: They're gonna go like three months with him not defending

23:46 Speaker 2: the title. And it's it's just it's just, it's just

23:50 Speaker 2: it's a mess. Drew should have been the one to

23:54 Speaker 2: come in there and face Randy and walk away with

23:57 Speaker 2: the title still strong.

23:59 Speaker 4: They made him look we see I think to me,

24:01 Speaker 4: Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton is more interesting, is more

24:05 Speaker 4: compelling because of their their shared history. But again, that

24:08 Speaker 4: takes me back to my other point, Like I was

24:10 Speaker 4: saying earlier, I don't think they've done enough about that.

24:12 Speaker 4: You know, they haven't talked enough about Legacy, the the

24:15 Speaker 4: stable that they were in together. They haven't. They just

24:17 Speaker 4: they've They've they've left a lot on the table, which

24:22 Speaker 4: the opposite, the opposite of what they've done with seam

24:24 Speaker 4: Punkin and Roman Reigns with with those two, they put

24:27 Speaker 4: it all on the table. But I feel like they've just.

24:30 Speaker 1: Let me correct on that one were in Legacy, those

24:33 Speaker 1: Triple H Batista.

24:34 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, not like not legacy. Uh wait, what am

24:37 Speaker 4: I thinking of?

24:39 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking when they were they may have

24:40 Speaker 1: been attack team when they were up and coming.

24:42 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

24:47 Speaker 4: But but the point being, there's a lot, there's a

24:49 Speaker 4: lot there and they've just left a lot on the table.

24:51 Speaker 4: And I don't understand why.

24:54 Speaker 2: You're not going to go ahead and talk talk about

24:57 Speaker 2: their legacy, uh or they're history, especially if it comes

25:02 Speaker 2: down to a friend turning on each other. I mean,

25:07 Speaker 2: it's it's just not I mean, there's no real purpose

25:10 Speaker 2: for that. I mean, there it's been brought up that. Yeah,

25:13 Speaker 2: there's a lot of history between them too, but it's

25:16 Speaker 2: been talking about, it's been talked about separately, but there's

25:19 Speaker 2: not really Again, like I said, there's no win win

25:21 Speaker 2: in that type of promo. You have a guy that's

25:24 Speaker 2: bent on destruction of hurting people, punting their heads for

25:28 Speaker 2: that matter. Yeah, versus somebody who is the defender who

25:33 Speaker 2: needs to go ahead and avenge himself for what was

25:37 Speaker 2: done to him. You're not gonna talk. That's there's no talk, now,

25:42 Speaker 2: I understand. I understand your point.

25:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talk.

25:46 Speaker 4: Uh That's basically what Eric said too. Here's here's the

25:49 Speaker 4: other thing though. I think they did the Orton turn.

25:51 Speaker 4: See they could have done it. If they hadn't done

25:53 Speaker 4: the Orton turn almost immediately, they could have held that

25:56 Speaker 4: off a little bit. Let that tension build. Do do

26:00 Speaker 4: that promo. Do that promo establish that tension and that promo,

26:05 Speaker 4: you know, in that promo, you know, maybe Cody says

26:08 Speaker 4: the thing about, you know, you gotta listen to the

26:10 Speaker 4: voices in your head. I want you to be the

26:12 Speaker 4: viper and all that, and then the next week that's

26:15 Speaker 4: when the turn happens. But they could have so they

26:17 Speaker 4: could have gotten that promo in, or they could have

26:19 Speaker 4: taken that the contract signing and use that as an

26:22 Speaker 4: opportunity to dig deeper, you know, because there was that

26:26 Speaker 4: there was the contract signing that they did, and I

26:28 Speaker 4: guess there was a little bit of that, but but

26:30 Speaker 4: they could have done a lot more with it. I

26:32 Speaker 4: think they did the turn too early.

26:34 Speaker 2: I yeah, I think they could have. They could have waited, Yeah,

26:39 Speaker 2: I think. I don't think there would have been much difference.

26:43 Speaker 2: I think doing the turn at the contract signing is

26:46 Speaker 2: the only way tables are going to be broken, because

26:49 Speaker 2: if you go ahead to shake his friends and walk out,

26:51 Speaker 2: everybody's gonna boo you, like, what is it not a

26:53 Speaker 2: contract signing? Contract signing has pen paper and splintered wood.

26:58 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but there's not going to be any

27:02 Speaker 2: splinted wood if we just shake hands and part of friends.

27:06 Speaker 4: But but it wouldn't have to be that. It wouldn't

27:08 Speaker 4: have to be shake hands in part as front and

27:10 Speaker 4: and and part as friends. But you could have still

27:13 Speaker 4: done that with maybe maybe it looks like, you know,

27:15 Speaker 4: maybe it looks like Orton's going for the r k O,

27:18 Speaker 4: but but then he doesn't quite hit it or something.

27:20 Speaker 4: I mean, you could have done things to really build

27:22 Speaker 4: that tension.

27:23 Speaker 2: You know, there needs to be broken table. I mean,

27:26 Speaker 2: how how else make their money?

27:28 Speaker 4: Well, that's true, you gotta break that slim gym table.

27:31 Speaker 4: You gotta snap, you gotta snap into that table.

27:33 Speaker 3: I guess crazy.

27:36 Speaker 2: It's crazy, all that money that they're making and they're

27:39 Speaker 2: still pricing people out.

27:41 Speaker 4: So what do you think about I I kind of

27:43 Speaker 4: get the impression that you're going to agree with me

27:45 Speaker 4: on this, but but I'm curious because you know, you

27:49 Speaker 4: reference all the money that they're making, and financially speaking,

27:52 Speaker 4: professional wrestling has never been healthier than than it is

27:55 Speaker 4: right now. I mean, they're they're making so much money

27:59 Speaker 4: and and so in that sense, it's more successful and

28:01 Speaker 4: it's ever been, even if it doesn't occupy the same

28:04 Speaker 4: space and popular culture that it did you know, during

28:07 Speaker 4: the eighties, during Wholecamania, or during the nineties Attitude era,

28:10 Speaker 4: into the very early two thousands, et cetera. But it's

28:13 Speaker 4: but financially they're doing fantastic. But there are all these

28:17 Speaker 4: naysayers and doomsayers because of the situation where ticket sales

28:21 Speaker 4: for WrestleMania are softer this year than they were last year.

28:25 Speaker 4: But I think that is a lot a lot of

28:27 Speaker 4: that is owed to they You know, they took a gamble,

28:32 Speaker 4: and no pund necessarily intended, although it's very appropriate, they

28:36 Speaker 4: took a gamble running the same city, in this case

28:39 Speaker 4: Las Vegas two years in a row, and I think

28:43 Speaker 4: that has hurt them as far as ticket sales this year.

28:45 Speaker 2: Well, here's the take on that one. You know how

28:48 Speaker 2: they're running their model for placing WrestleMania now right, highest bidder. Yes,

28:55 Speaker 2: obviously nobody's really wanted to play the bidding game, and

28:59 Speaker 2: Vegas came in hop again. Yeah, why do you think

29:01 Speaker 2: it's going to Saudi Arabia?

29:03 Speaker 4: But the thing is, though they already had New Orleans

29:06 Speaker 4: locked in so much so much so and I don't

29:08 Speaker 4: remember this ever happening before, so much so they did

29:11 Speaker 4: the press conference, they had the announcement, they had the

29:13 Speaker 4: Rock come out and do the announcement WrestleMania New Orleans,

29:17 Speaker 4: and then within what a few weeks maybe a month,

29:20 Speaker 4: they pulled the plug on New Orleans and recommitted to

29:24 Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I mean, that was weird. I've never seen

29:27 Speaker 4: that before.

29:28 Speaker 1: What are their chicks bounced? I mean, what are you

29:29 Speaker 1: gonna do?

29:32 Speaker 2: It's it's really it's not about let's go ahead and

29:36 Speaker 2: diversify WrestleMania. Yeah, let's not. Let's go ahead and you know,

29:41 Speaker 2: place it in a new city. It's never been there before.

29:44 Speaker 2: It's not about that anymore. It's not it's about money.

29:47 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and that's the big problem to you know.

29:49 Speaker 1: It's money. Now. I get you.

29:53 Speaker 2: You're gonna pay you know, you're you're you're paying these

29:55 Speaker 2: wrestlers about the same that you were, not less because

29:59 Speaker 2: they've actually salaries. But how much money do you need?

30:03 Speaker 2: How big are your pockets? I mean they're more pockets

30:06 Speaker 2: than pants.

30:07 Speaker 1: By this point. How big are your pockets? Come on, man?

30:12 Speaker 2: I mean by the amount of money that you are generating,

30:16 Speaker 2: you should be giving these tickets away, the floor seats,

30:20 Speaker 2: giving them away. And they're not doing it, doing this

30:24 Speaker 2: twenty five percent off ram truck event whatever.

30:27 Speaker 1: That was.

30:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's twenty five percent off a five thousand dollar ticket?

30:31 Speaker 1: A thousand bucks?

30:32 Speaker 3: Yeah?

30:32 Speaker 2: Oh great, I get to sit in the nosebleed section

30:35 Speaker 2: for not five thousand, but four thousand.

30:38 Speaker 3: Weak.

30:39 Speaker 4: Yeah that was. That was super awkward too, because then

30:42 Speaker 4: they have Pat McAfee making that announcement. So here's a heel,

30:46 Speaker 4: he's supposed to be a heal. He's coming out telling

30:49 Speaker 4: it almost came off like they were mocking people for

30:52 Speaker 4: not for being too poor to go to WrestleMania or something.

30:55 Speaker 4: It was really that whole part of that too. That

30:58 Speaker 4: was very strange. That was very strangely handled.

31:01 Speaker 2: I like how, I like how mcfee's going hend soud,

31:03 Speaker 2: I'm gonna save you dirt bag some money or whatever

31:07 Speaker 2: names he's calling them. Yeah, you don't deserve it. But

31:10 Speaker 2: here's twenty five percent of go book wrestling. And it's

31:13 Speaker 2: not even just from now till WrestleMania, it's now till

31:16 Speaker 2: the end of Raw. Like, so bizarre time limit on

31:21 Speaker 2: this thing?

31:22 Speaker 3: Now?

31:22 Speaker 1: Is that eleven pm Eastern time? And the Raw? I guess, yeah,

31:26 Speaker 1: you know it's on Netflix.

31:27 Speaker 2: What if what if they do a short show because

31:30 Speaker 2: they don't do three hour shows on Netflix. Right two,

31:33 Speaker 2: it's two hours fifteen minutes, two hours thirty How do

31:36 Speaker 2: we know, Well, hopefully it's not. Hopefully there's some extra

31:39 Speaker 2: time on RAW so I can go to the adio

31:43 Speaker 2: website and put my ticket in.

31:45 Speaker 4: It's so strange. The whole thing was so bizarre, the

31:49 Speaker 4: way they handled that.

31:50 Speaker 1: It wasn't.

31:51 Speaker 2: I think McFee should be cursed, if you know what

31:54 Speaker 2: I mean. Oh oh oh oh, I think McAfee needs

31:57 Speaker 2: to be cursed. So, yes, since we last talked that

32:02 Speaker 2: mystery person in the crate, I'll have to I'll have

32:06 Speaker 2: to admit I was surprised that it was him. Yeah,

32:10 Speaker 2: not surprised it wasn't Jericho because obviously have his contract dispute. Yeah,

32:15 Speaker 2: I would admit has been a pleasant surprise that I

32:18 Speaker 2: am a dann Housen fan.

32:19 Speaker 4: Now, oh, I think that's the general feeling. Yeah, Jenny

32:23 Speaker 4: and I love him.

32:24 Speaker 1: He's been amazing.

32:26 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about like there was like a pin

32:29 Speaker 2: drop when he came out. I mean, I do those

32:31 Speaker 2: there was an applause like yay Dan, like the people

32:34 Speaker 2: that knew him. Yeah, but like, I'm like, what a creep?

32:38 Speaker 2: What a what is this dudeist like going on? And

32:43 Speaker 2: then I'm seeing him on his social medium, I'm seeing

32:45 Speaker 2: him do backstage and impressions. Just the first one with

32:49 Speaker 2: Adam Pierce with his note being dropped.

32:51 Speaker 1: In the toilet.

32:51 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's okay, I get that.

32:55 Speaker 2: And it's like ever since then, it's like, yes, this

32:58 Speaker 2: is the conoric relieve I've been waiting for.

33:01 Speaker 4: And apparently his merch sales are huge.

33:04 Speaker 3: He's not.

33:04 Speaker 1: I think he's the number one merch guy right now.

33:06 Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, I think he's not. If not,

33:10 Speaker 2: he's number one, he's very close. He's definitely top three.

33:13 Speaker 3: Yeah.

33:14 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've been a huge as you can tell

33:16 Speaker 2: on my title here, I'm now going by Charles Housen.

33:21 Speaker 2: So it's it's uh, it's basically, don't cross me, I

33:25 Speaker 2: will curse you.

33:26 Speaker 4: So I have one worry with Dan Housen. I'm worried.

33:28 Speaker 4: I'm worried he's gonna get overexposed. They're going to overexpose.

33:31 Speaker 2: Him, maybe, but you know what, you can't overexpose somebody

33:36 Speaker 2: that doesn't do anything in the ring. I mean, besides

33:38 Speaker 2: that one appearance that he came out. I don't think

33:40 Speaker 2: it's overexposure. It's very short, five minute clips. Yeah, he's

33:43 Speaker 2: on social media, which is blowing up, and of course

33:46 Speaker 2: he's he's Hey, listen, when you hand out free T

33:48 Speaker 2: shirts in the middle of commercial breaks, that's not a

33:52 Speaker 2: bad thing, right, that's not a bad thing. Go ahead

33:55 Speaker 2: and give me free T shirts. But I don't have

33:57 Speaker 2: to get cursed. I enjoy it.

33:59 Speaker 3: Yeah.

34:00 Speaker 2: I really hope we see him at Wrestlemanium. I know

34:03 Speaker 2: he's not scheduled for a match or anything like that.

34:04 Speaker 4: Oh, they'll they'll find something for him to do.

34:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's that. That's that's him.

34:10 Speaker 2: He's gonna be that goofy character that's just gonna annoy

34:14 Speaker 2: a lot of wrestlers.

34:15 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be fun.

34:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

34:17 Speaker 1: The only personally he hasn't annoyed right now is our truth,

34:20 Speaker 1: which he him, and our truth I think should do

34:23 Speaker 1: attack him.

34:24 Speaker 4: Honestly, they probably gonna happen truth thousand or something.

34:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, honestly, our truth just is Oh man,

34:32 Speaker 2: Damien Priest's facial expressions right now.

34:34 Speaker 4: Oh that's what that's what Jenny always says too. She

34:37 Speaker 4: she always points out that it always looks like Damian

34:39 Speaker 4: Priest is trying not to laugh.

34:42 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing a good job.

34:43 Speaker 2: He's not laughing, but you know he's he's doing as

34:46 Speaker 2: like a what the heck are you talking about type attitude.

34:50 Speaker 4: But yeah, and I like the way too they build

34:52 Speaker 4: that on when you know, when when Damian Priest was

34:55 Speaker 4: still in Judgment Day and our Truth was trying to

34:57 Speaker 4: be in Judgment Day, and and and Amian Priest was

35:00 Speaker 4: always the one person in the group who kind of

35:02 Speaker 4: had a soft spot for Truth, even though Priest was

35:05 Speaker 4: still technically a heel. You know, you could tell that.

35:07 Speaker 4: I always appreciated the subtlety and the nuance of that

35:10 Speaker 4: where you could tell he kind of liked Truth. He

35:13 Speaker 4: was trying not to like him, but he did kind

35:14 Speaker 4: of like him. And I like how they sort of

35:16 Speaker 4: built on that with this new this new chapter with

35:19 Speaker 4: them as Tag Team champions. I'm really enjoying that.

35:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of makes me a little bit disappointed

35:25 Speaker 2: that they don't have a tag team championship match at WrestleMania. Uh,

35:29 Speaker 2: it's disappointing where these two aren't going to be on

35:32 Speaker 2: there you don't have did did There's.

35:35 Speaker 1: Just not.

35:37 Speaker 2: You know, like Eo Sky, How can you not have

35:39 Speaker 2: a match for her? And where is Bianca? What is

35:43 Speaker 2: going on with Bianca?

35:44 Speaker 4: Well, she's been she's injured, right, Oh.

35:46 Speaker 2: She's not injured. She's came back. So they they just

35:50 Speaker 2: haven't had anything for him.

35:52 Speaker 4: Well her and the street profits too. So her husband

35:55 Speaker 4: has also been on the sidelines Monteste for and I

35:57 Speaker 4: don't think there's any injury there.

36:00 Speaker 2: Maybe he might be right, yeah, sheree parfits that. I

36:03 Speaker 2: have been kind of very quiet. One thing, I will

36:05 Speaker 2: go ahead. Let's let's let's talk about this one here,

36:08 Speaker 2: the the gunta not excuse me, the Sammy's Ain Trick Williams, Yes,

36:15 Speaker 2: number one, another bad move deserved? Oh yeah, and Sammy

36:22 Speaker 2: getting this much heat with Trick, who is also technically

36:26 Speaker 2: a heel. It's it doesn't make sense. You know, Melo

36:31 Speaker 2: should have came up Melos and Trick should be in

36:33 Speaker 2: this match. That's that. That's another bad move. I see,

36:38 Speaker 2: w W what are your thoughts on that?

36:39 Speaker 4: I so, I am intrigued with what they're doing with

36:44 Speaker 4: Sammy Zain, who I think is basically becoming a heel.

36:49 Speaker 4: And I This is something we disagreed about on Tough Bumps, Uh,

36:52 Speaker 4: Eric and I think Eric and Austin both would prefer

36:55 Speaker 4: Sammy z Ain as a babyface. But I actually I

36:58 Speaker 4: think he's more interesting as a heel. To be honest,

36:59 Speaker 4: I think he's more entertaining as a heel. And I

37:04 Speaker 4: like what they've been doing with him. Trick Williams, I

37:07 Speaker 4: think as a tweeter, I mean, he's he basically acts

37:11 Speaker 4: like a heel, but there's nothing like, what can that

37:14 Speaker 4: guy ever do that's going to actually get him booed.

37:18 Speaker 4: I mean his music hits and there and everybody goes

37:22 Speaker 4: nuts and they're chanting, whoop that Trick And you know,

37:26 Speaker 4: I mean he's like, he's kind of like the Rock.

37:29 Speaker 4: And this is not an original idea. I've seen other

37:31 Speaker 4: people make this comparison. He's kind of like the Rock

37:34 Speaker 4: when the Rock was a heel. But people loved him,

37:38 Speaker 4: you know, during the Attitude era, even when he was

37:40 Speaker 4: a heel. You could because you couldn't help it. You

37:42 Speaker 4: couldn't help but like him. And that's what Trick Williams is. He's, yeah,

37:47 Speaker 4: he's supposed to be a heel, but you cannot help.

37:50 Speaker 4: But like him. It's impossible not to like him.

37:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really You're right, it is really really

37:59 Speaker 2: difficult to do that.

38:00 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think they're they're.

38:01 Speaker 2: Trying to put Samy's I think Sammy San is actually

38:03 Speaker 2: being forced into a heel role. Yeah, because of how

38:08 Speaker 2: they how they did this, because he basically screwed He

38:13 Speaker 2: basically screwed Carmelo or eccually me, he didn't screw Carmelo,

38:16 Speaker 2: but you know, just having the match, Uh, Carmelo won

38:21 Speaker 2: fair and square, right, and like, you know, he should

38:23 Speaker 2: be the one to go to WrestleMania to face Trick

38:26 Speaker 2: and Sammy you know, kind of weaseled his way in there,

38:29 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, it's but you know, it is

38:33 Speaker 2: what it is. I don't I kind of like to

38:34 Speaker 2: see how it plays out. But Mellow should have been

38:37 Speaker 2: somewhere in there, even a triple to that.

38:38 Speaker 4: No, No, I agree. I think Carmelo Hayes is incredible

38:41 Speaker 4: and uh and I really like, you know, I thought

38:44 Speaker 4: it was a I thought it was a good heel,

38:45 Speaker 4: but I really I've enjoyed him more as a babyface.

38:48 Speaker 4: I think he's kind of a natural babyface and uh,

38:51 Speaker 4: and very marketable, and yeah, I think they'll get to

38:55 Speaker 4: I know they had a they had a long there's

38:57 Speaker 4: a lot of history there that they can capitalize on.

39:00 Speaker 4: In terms of him and Trick, Trick Williams and NXT,

39:03 Speaker 4: they're not always great. Actually, more often than not, they're

39:07 Speaker 4: not great at doing that on capitalizing on the main roster,

39:11 Speaker 4: on capitalizing on history that these characters had in NXT.

39:16 Speaker 4: I kind of understand why they don't bother to an

39:19 Speaker 4: extent because obviously it's only a small portion of the

39:21 Speaker 4: audience that's watching NXT. But still, I think they could

39:24 Speaker 4: do better about that. But I think they will get

39:26 Speaker 4: to that with Trick Williams and Carmelo Hayes. But I'm

39:28 Speaker 4: intrigued to see where they're going with Sammy's ay and

39:31 Speaker 4: I I think I'm in the minority on that.

39:33 Speaker 1: But I don't.

39:34 Speaker 2: I kind of want to see how they spend it too,

39:37 Speaker 2: I really do. Yeah, I see Trick winning tonight or

39:40 Speaker 2: not today?

39:41 Speaker 1: Is it tonight or tomorrow?

39:42 Speaker 4: I cannot I cannot remember. I see.

39:48 Speaker 2: It looks like it's Sunday. So I see Trick winning

39:51 Speaker 2: to win the championship. I think he deserves it now Again,

39:55 Speaker 2: whether creative things that way. I don't know, we'll find out.

39:58 Speaker 4: There's no hurry. He's very young. Oh yeah, yeah, there's

40:03 Speaker 4: no hurry. You know, there's no rush with him. I agree,

40:07 Speaker 4: But Sammy.

40:07 Speaker 2: Sane has got a lot of belts under his belt,

40:09 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, the one that's eluding him is

40:12 Speaker 2: the World Championship or the w W Championships. That's the

40:15 Speaker 2: main one that's eluding him. So I think, uh, we

40:19 Speaker 2: leave him of the belt and lectric run electric, run

40:23 Speaker 2: wild on it. I think he should be just fine.

40:27 Speaker 2: You're talking about NXT guys, how about Obama massive, dude massive,

40:33 Speaker 2: and he is completely manhandling brock Lesner. Yeah, and handling

40:40 Speaker 2: him and that could go one of two ways because

40:44 Speaker 2: Omas also.

40:46 Speaker 1: Handled brock Lesner.

40:48 Speaker 3: Yeah.

40:48 Speaker 1: Look how that turned out.

40:49 Speaker 4: Well that Yeah, but that that's when Vince was still

40:52 Speaker 4: in charge.

40:56 Speaker 1: Yeah.

40:57 Speaker 2: I am hoping that the rule or rules. Yeah, me too,

41:03 Speaker 2: and I think he will. But I also think supplex

41:08 Speaker 2: City is going to be on the road to the

41:11 Speaker 2: rule of winning. So I think there's well, we're gonna

41:14 Speaker 2: see how he feels about that, because I think he

41:16 Speaker 2: has been suplexed a couple of times and he just popped.

41:19 Speaker 1: Back up and it's like right takes him down. So

41:23 Speaker 1: I'm liking Oba in that match with Brock which will

41:26 Speaker 1: open by the way, Oh yeah, both nights. The first

41:29 Speaker 1: hour from six pm Eastern to seven pm Eastern will

41:33 Speaker 1: open on ESPN one and two, respectfully.

41:36 Speaker 2: The first night tonight is on ESPN Tomorrow night, the

41:42 Speaker 2: first hour is on ESPN two. Okay, So even if

41:46 Speaker 2: you don't have ESPN Unlimited, which you know a lot

41:50 Speaker 2: of sicklers just don't want to do it. But a

41:53 Speaker 2: lot of cable companies if you subscribe that you get

41:55 Speaker 2: ESPNU limited already.

41:57 Speaker 1: Not YouTube TV. Thank you very much, YouTube TV.

41:59 Speaker 2: I appreciate that you just stick us with the with

42:02 Speaker 2: the forty dollars bill every month, but that's okay, I

42:04 Speaker 2: pay it. But yeah, if you want to see WrestleMania

42:07 Speaker 2: free of charge and you're in ESPN or ESPN two subscriber,

42:11 Speaker 2: first hour between six and seven, Oprah, Femi and brock

42:14 Speaker 2: Lesnon will be on Sunday part of that first hour

42:20 Speaker 2: and also on part of that first hour.

42:22 Speaker 1: Which is kind of an interesting match that I'd like

42:26 Speaker 1: is the Vision against the U Show in La Night.

42:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's interesting the Vision with I Show Speed, Yeah.

42:35 Speaker 2: Which he is, I show his true colors apparently, uh,

42:39 Speaker 2: just just he didn't want to be he didn't want

42:41 Speaker 2: to be a heel. Yeah, but you know he got

42:43 Speaker 2: in the way of Dan Housen and started cursing. So

42:47 Speaker 2: that's what That's one of the things I read on

42:49 Speaker 2: Dan House real quickly sidetrack. Yeah, Dan Housen apparently cursed

42:54 Speaker 2: a lot of people in a w but it just

42:55 Speaker 2: never followed through. I guess that was just creative. But

42:59 Speaker 2: now when he cursed somebody does actual meaning to it.

43:03 Speaker 2: Oh wwe oh that's heard.

43:06 Speaker 4: The best was when he cursed as a Dan Englert

43:08 Speaker 4: the referee and when and when Angler goes to do

43:12 Speaker 4: the three count.

43:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was so funny.

43:16 Speaker 4: He played it perfectly to the sound he made when

43:19 Speaker 4: he went to count. It was so good.

43:24 Speaker 1: I love that.

43:27 Speaker 4: He could not have done that better anyway.

43:30 Speaker 2: So the vision with I Show Speed, whereas their new

43:34 Speaker 2: I guess he's a new member of the Vision right

43:36 Speaker 2: he hasn't been formally introduced as against the usos who

43:41 Speaker 2: are seems like there's cracks at the seam. Although then

43:45 Speaker 2: last time we saw him it wasn't. But I think

43:48 Speaker 2: Jay is becoming full of himself with l A Knight, which,

43:53 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, it is a travesty that

43:56 Speaker 2: el A Knight is.

43:57 Speaker 1: Not in a singles match. Yeah, old, yeah, it's try

44:04 Speaker 1: to say.

44:04 Speaker 2: I want to see the usso's win, but I have

44:07 Speaker 2: somehow figured out that the Curse of Danausen is going

44:13 Speaker 2: to stay alive and the Vision will win. Oh, so

44:18 Speaker 2: I will take the vision with I show speed getting

44:22 Speaker 2: in the way somehow some way of just oopsie and

44:27 Speaker 2: they go up for a quick for a quick count.

44:31 Speaker 2: But yeah, or something happens with Jay and Jimmy where

44:34 Speaker 2: they're bickering. Yeah, because that's not completely a cohesive unit.

44:41 Speaker 4: No, No, I can see a possible heel turn for

44:45 Speaker 4: the USOS, maybe a reformation of the bloodline. Maybe they

44:49 Speaker 4: go heel and Roman Reigns goes heel and they reconstitute

44:54 Speaker 4: the bloodline somehow.

44:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he did.

44:57 Speaker 2: There was one part of that last promo that and

45:00 Speaker 2: did is and new WWE Champion where the Tribal Chief

45:06 Speaker 2: takes back.

45:08 Speaker 4: So I'm like referring to himself as the tribal Chief.

45:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thinking of that. So what do you see

45:15 Speaker 1: in the vision in USOS though, what do you do?

45:16 Speaker 1: Do you agree?

45:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. The scenario you laid out makes sense.

45:21 Speaker 4: They probably want the vision to go over because obviously

45:24 Speaker 4: the Vision has had a rough time with it in

45:26 Speaker 4: terms of injuries, so to keep the vision strong, they

45:29 Speaker 4: probably want the vision to go over. And I don't

45:33 Speaker 4: think the USO's or La Night are at all hurt

45:37 Speaker 4: taking a loss in a six man tag, So yeah,

45:40 Speaker 4: I think you're probably right. I like your scenario too,

45:43 Speaker 4: that the Dan Housen curses involved, Yeah in this happening,

45:46 Speaker 4: and yeah, I like it.

45:48 Speaker 3: I like it.

45:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with your opp prediction there.

45:51 Speaker 2: The second match is scheduled for tonight on ESPN. One

45:56 Speaker 2: is fought to and McIntire this unsanction match, which, well,

46:02 Speaker 2: why just not call it a no holes bard match

46:03 Speaker 2: or street fight? I mean it's it's the same thing. Yeah,

46:06 Speaker 2: not means there's no referee and you guys just beat

46:10 Speaker 2: somebody until they're they're dead or something like that.

46:12 Speaker 1: That's don stationed.

46:13 Speaker 4: I this is an unpopular opinion, but personally I don't

46:16 Speaker 4: enjoy those types of matches very much.

46:20 Speaker 1: It's it depends it depends on how creative they can be.

46:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you had an unsaid these type of matches,

46:28 Speaker 2: gimmick matches where everything's involved, you know, you have to

46:32 Speaker 2: have somebody from Jackass come in with a big, big

46:35 Speaker 2: hand knocking you over or something like that. Yeah, that

46:39 Speaker 2: makes it funny. But listen, when you can go ahead

46:42 Speaker 2: and break some tables chairs, not so much, Kendostick's not

46:46 Speaker 2: so much.

46:46 Speaker 1: Tables is my thing.

46:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, tables and my thing.

46:49 Speaker 2: If you can go ahead and be creative, No, not

46:53 Speaker 2: just do the same thing everybody's done before.

46:55 Speaker 4: Right, because I feel like I feel like it's all

46:57 Speaker 4: been done well.

46:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like they're some things that still look

47:01 Speaker 2: good and everything's been done to a point. Matt, Yeah,

47:05 Speaker 2: you know, you know what what looks entertaining really, But

47:10 Speaker 2: in this one, man, this one, I kind of.

47:14 Speaker 1: Want McIntyre to win.

47:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of want McIntyre to take take over

47:19 Speaker 2: and just discontinues because you know, again, he's what do

47:24 Speaker 2: you do with McIntyre after that?

47:25 Speaker 1: You're gonna go after after the world title again?

47:27 Speaker 4: Or isn't isn't he isn't he going away?

47:30 Speaker 1: Though?

47:31 Speaker 4: Isn't he gonna? Doesn't he have to film the Highlander,

47:34 Speaker 4: the Newer whatever, whatever it goes.

47:37 Speaker 2: But there's no gold to this stuff. Yeah, so yeah,

47:41 Speaker 2: I can see what you're saying. Yeah, everybody's you know what,

47:44 Speaker 2: this is the problem with booking these matches. Everybody's doing

47:48 Speaker 2: a movie. Stop doing movies. What's your career is over

47:53 Speaker 2: or you know, at least take a vacation after the

47:55 Speaker 2: story ends, right end at WrestleMania.

47:58 Speaker 1: This should be new ones. She whiz, I mean, stop

48:04 Speaker 1: making movies.

48:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if it gives you an excuse to have

48:06 Speaker 4: fat go over strong and you know, and because because

48:09 Speaker 4: that guy that that's a he's a future WrestleMania main

48:13 Speaker 4: eventor no doubt.

48:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, you talked me, and do it? Okay,

48:16 Speaker 1: I want?

48:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do?

48:19 Speaker 1: You want?

48:19 Speaker 4: I do?

48:20 Speaker 1: I do.

48:22 Speaker 2: I don't think it's the first match, but you got

48:23 Speaker 2: for care against liv Morgan, which, by the way, since

48:28 Speaker 2: she didn't watch SmackDown Live, have you seen Liv Morgan's

48:32 Speaker 2: music video?

48:33 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, don't tell my wife.

48:40 Speaker 4: But dang, yeah yeah, Jenny and I saw it.

48:46 Speaker 1: Yeah.

48:48 Speaker 2: I think she's spectacular, not only audio but visually as well.

48:54 Speaker 2: If she ever does do a music career, and if

48:57 Speaker 2: it's backed by T K O, W W E whatever.

49:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she can make it big. I really do.

49:03 Speaker 2: She doesn't have to go the way of Nadia and

49:06 Speaker 2: going into UH OnlyFans or anything like that. She can

49:08 Speaker 2: just go right here into uh the music industry anyway.

49:13 Speaker 2: The care has held it, She's done a great job.

49:17 Speaker 2: But I think Live Live needs to go ahead and

49:20 Speaker 2: get some gold. I'm gonna say Live.

49:24 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Stephanie Vicare just because I'm so

49:27 Speaker 4: impressed with her. I think she's amazing. They're both amazing, though.

49:31 Speaker 1: They are, I think they're both good and competitors.

49:34 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.

49:36 Speaker 2: I think Vicaire is held onto the belt and you

49:40 Speaker 2: know what, Yeah, I Live Live doing it, and I

49:43 Speaker 2: think maybe there's more all right this one here for

49:49 Speaker 2: the woman's in her continental ajlay Becking Lynch. Is AJ

49:54 Speaker 2: really worthy of holding onto the championship or do we

49:58 Speaker 2: needed to go back to somebody that's had a more

50:01 Speaker 2: of a steady hand sort of speak. Basically, this should

50:04 Speaker 2: be the end of this rivalry. Yeah, and I actually

50:08 Speaker 2: would like to see AJ keep it.

50:11 Speaker 4: I'm a big Becky Lynch fan. As long as Becky

50:13 Speaker 4: Lynch as a heel as a babyface, I think she's

50:16 Speaker 4: quite boring, but I love Becky Lynch as a heel,

50:18 Speaker 4: although if she loses, that gives her more reason to

50:21 Speaker 4: be angry and and angry. Becky Lynch promo, which is

50:25 Speaker 4: really every Becky Lynch promo as a heel, is amazing.

50:28 Speaker 4: I love her promos, love her promos. I think she's

50:31 Speaker 4: great in the ring too, But honestly, I just love

50:33 Speaker 4: listening to her talk.

50:35 Speaker 2: I'll take a look at the time, and I know

50:37 Speaker 2: we're running short, so let me go ahead and just

50:39 Speaker 2: breach through these yere.

50:40 Speaker 1: Okay for the fiddle fourway. By the way, I do

50:43 Speaker 1: want to go ahead and let you know Nick Kella

50:48 Speaker 1: is out.

50:49 Speaker 4: She is definitely out.

50:51 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, she's taking her place at least what I

50:53 Speaker 1: heard Page.

50:56 Speaker 4: Oh interesting.

50:58 Speaker 2: She's been signed to WWE confirmed all of a social media,

51:02 Speaker 2: but it has not been made official on SmackDown. There

51:05 Speaker 2: was no drop or anything of that.

51:07 Speaker 4: That'll be a cool surprise, So it would be brief and.

51:11 Speaker 1: Page going up against everybody else.

51:14 Speaker 3: But I.

51:16 Speaker 2: Want to see the irresistible forces keep it. Yeah, So

51:20 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say irresistible forces, what about you.

51:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I agree they should have a longer

51:25 Speaker 4: run with the title.

51:27 Speaker 1: Seth Roylins and Goonther. I think it makes Seth look

51:30 Speaker 1: very weak if you lose.

51:32 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it makes him too weak, but

51:34 Speaker 2: I think there needs to be a reason why Gunther wins.

51:38 Speaker 2: If it's interference, fine, but if it's just straight up,

51:42 Speaker 2: I think Seth should win, and I'll take it because

51:47 Speaker 2: division is very light right now, so I will go

51:50 Speaker 2: ahead and just say Seth wins. Okay, I don't know.

51:55 Speaker 2: I don't have a prediction on that one. I think

51:56 Speaker 2: I could go either way. Cody and Randy. I think

52:00 Speaker 2: Andy saves the business and he will go ahead and

52:01 Speaker 2: win that his fifteenth. I think it's just too much

52:03 Speaker 2: build up and then and just such a disappointment, and

52:06 Speaker 2: of course Cody filming a movie.

52:09 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think so, I agree. I agree.

52:12 Speaker 2: I already said O. But over Brock, I think that's

52:15 Speaker 2: gonna happen. Yeah, the six pack ladder match, dude, I

52:19 Speaker 2: want Javon Evans.

52:21 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh my god.

52:23 Speaker 1: Would that be such an awesome moment for that kid. Gavan.

52:26 Speaker 2: I know he's young, and I know if he loses,

52:28 Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a big deal. But man, he's

52:31 Speaker 2: my pick because I think Dragon Ray shouldn't win. JD

52:35 Speaker 2: what is he doing in there? I mean if he wins,

52:38 Speaker 2: that just solidifies the judgment day even more.

52:41 Speaker 3: Russev.

52:42 Speaker 2: I don't even think he knows how to climb a ladder. Yeah,

52:45 Speaker 2: so I think it comes down to Javon and Penta.

52:47 Speaker 2: Really it might be Panta. They're big on Panta right now.

52:51 Speaker 1: They are You're right, You're right. But yeah, I'm gonna

52:54 Speaker 1: pick Javon. I'm just gonna go off the deep end.

52:55 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Panta, Yep, Jade and Rhea.

53:00 Speaker 2: I think Ria just takes back where it was rightfully

53:03 Speaker 2: her as Jade has not done anything with that title.

53:06 Speaker 1: Rear could definitely make something happen.

53:08 Speaker 2: Uh already said trick over Sammy Yep, Finn Ballot Dominicu Mysterio.

53:13 Speaker 1: But Finn is coming back as the demon. You don't

53:16 Speaker 1: mess with the demon, it's Finn.

53:19 Speaker 4: Agrees. Yeah, Finn goes over.

53:22 Speaker 2: Yep and Uh seem punk Roman reigns this one. I

53:28 Speaker 2: may need this last sixty seconds to find to figure

53:30 Speaker 2: this out.

53:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't call it. I don't know what they're

53:35 Speaker 4: gonna do.

53:36 Speaker 1: I think I think if I do everything right, I

53:40 Speaker 1: think CM Punk drops it. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'm

53:46 Speaker 1: gonna go Roman.

53:48 Speaker 3: Uh.

53:48 Speaker 4: Gotten in to my head. I would also go Roman.

53:50 Speaker 4: But but uh but I but I think this's I

53:52 Speaker 4: think there's gonna be some sort of a surprise that

53:55 Speaker 4: were that we don't see coming during that match.

53:58 Speaker 2: That's that's usually when the poll there's listen time's up

54:01 Speaker 2: at WrestleMania, it's like either you do it now or

54:03 Speaker 2: don't do.

54:03 Speaker 1: It at all.

54:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, something's coming.

54:06 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you talking with me with WrestleMania, I

54:08 Speaker 2: know it happens once a year. And these po's they

54:12 Speaker 2: are mostly interesting.

54:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely?

54:16 Speaker 1: Yeah? Did they pass like gas sometimes?

54:20 Speaker 4: Do you want to you should plug both The Charles

54:23 Speaker 4: Richardson Show and of course the wrestling podcast that you

54:25 Speaker 4: do with Mister Zodiac.

54:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. So The Charles Richardson Show will do that first

54:30 Speaker 1: because it is live every Wednesday. Now excuse me, wow,

54:35 Speaker 1: I just got cursed.

54:38 Speaker 2: It's live every Wednesday now from eight to ten pm,

54:41 Speaker 2: one night a week. Go ahead and join you on

54:43 Speaker 2: my Facebook channel, The Charles Richardson Show also YouTube channel,

54:48 Speaker 2: The Charles richardson show. I have under one hundred subscribers.

54:52 Speaker 2: One of them is also the.

54:55 Speaker 1: The Lovely Crazy Joe but still of course.

55:00 Speaker 2: Crazy anyway, So make sure it's live eight pm to

55:04 Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern time. You can always go ahead and

55:06 Speaker 2: rewatch anything on both those channels. And the wrestling show

55:11 Speaker 2: I do is called the Josh Zodiac Podcast. You can

55:16 Speaker 2: find him on anywhere podcast to drop, and I do

55:19 Speaker 2: mean anywhere, yes, so look for it, download it. It

55:22 Speaker 2: usually drops. New episodes drops on Monday. We will have

55:26 Speaker 2: two shows doing here and they're both just gonna be

55:28 Speaker 2: recap shows tonight, but there'll be two shows, both recap

55:33 Speaker 2: shows that will probably drop on Monday afternoon. Okay, so

55:36 Speaker 2: be on the lookout for that for both nights to

55:38 Speaker 2: Wrestle Media.

55:39 Speaker 4: Very good, very good, well Charles Richards, and my friend

55:43 Speaker 4: always wonderful to speak with.

55:44 Speaker 3: You.

55:44 Speaker 4: Will let you go as we are approaching the top

55:46 Speaker 4: of the hour. But this has been great and I

55:48 Speaker 4: can't wait to do it again, my friend.

55:50 Speaker 1: Absolutely look forward to it. Thank you.

55:52 Speaker 4: All right, Charles, you got it, Take care, I'll talk

55:54 Speaker 4: to you soon, all right, bye, right bye bye.